I prefer the neewer system, because even though it might be convenient to use magnets, I prefer using standard filters. I can use ANY 67mm filter, and those same filters can also be used on interchangeable lenses that support them. For me, one of my design constraints in my iPhone rig was that every piece (aside from the iPhone cage) should be able to be transferred to a mirrorless if I decided to upgrade. Screwing them on can be annoying but it is also a little more stable if i mount it on a car or something.
I use the Snap Photo Gear setup. Super slim and uses even smaller filter at 58mm. Fits nicely in your pocket. Even supports using the DJI Gimbals. snapphotogear.com/
One think that I’ve really been struggling with is finding a way to use smallrig’s camera cage with standard threaded filters instead of smallrig’s proprietary magnetic filters.
Appreciate your sharing, Benett. I've encountered identical issues with these filters. While I'm a fan of SmallRigs equipment, it's crucial for them to address these issues promptly. Otherwise, customers might opt for the Neewer system instead.
Na niemiecki Hello, I have a question regarding the SmallRig x Brandon Li Mobile Video Kit for iPhone 15 Pro Max Co-Design Edition. Do I need to change the adapter to the 17mm thread lens backplate for iPhone 15 Pro Max / 15 Pro Cage every time I want to attach a lens? And then, if I want to mount an ND filter, do I have to switch it back to the original one again? Is there any way to mount both a filter and a lens without having to change the adapter?
Thank you Benett for the tip. I mean the only thing that was bothering me with the small rig filter system was the "loose" adapter ring as sometimes it fell off with the filter on it. I will use your tip using a tape! Cheers for this idea! Looking forward to more videos from you with the iPhone 15ProMax.
When you were talking about the possibility of the filters falling off, I was thinking "Gaffer Tape"!😁 The VND filter likely has color shifts you didn't notice. I spent a lot of time comparing different filter brands and even major brands like Tiffen had filters with noticeable color issues. The best I found was a set from NiSi. I mostly shoot with a 1:85 Anamorphic lens from Small Rig. I tried a couple of others and they all had sharpness issues. Unfortunately, the Small Rig only takes magnetic filters and I didn't want to buy all new filters just for that lens. I ended up gluing an adapter ring to the magnetic filter mount and I can use screw-on filters now. With step-up rings I can use my 72mm VND and a 72mm 1/8 Mist filter with no vignetting issues. I also put a couple of drops of Cyanoacrylate glue on the magnetic mount to counter the additional weight of the filters. I can't quickly shift from landscape to portrait mode now, but why would I want to?
To be honest the M mount is kind of a weird choice for small rig because the Moment M series do not work anymore with later generation phones for instance the 15 series phones, I wish they made a filter adapter that would fit on the t series plate instead of
Hey Bennet, thanks for the gaffer tape tip! I was annoyed with how loose the M mount gets 😂. I might think about getting the Neewer system since the filter mount covers the lenses fully, leaving no gaps for light leaks, and it’s case already has 17mm threads so technically this system should solve our issue of changing backplates 😅 great video btw, thank you for sharing your experience! Glad to know you’re also facing the same things as I am 😂
Thank you for the video! I recently got one, is great! but only complaint I have is they decided to use the M-mount instead the T-Mount. I check with SmallRig, they still don't have a T-Series filter mount
Thanks for nu the video and honest thoughts. I returned the Smallrig Cage and the 52mm system. Switched to the Reeflex G-serie and 67mm filters with a universal cage. Best system 😊
For real why doesnt this ring fit correctly on the cage? I want to screw it on a use the 24mm lens, why is the ring blocking it!? why would they design something like that!? Im so mad! Oh and I get a horrible glare in my lens when I have the ring on in harsh light. Light seems to hit the ring perfectly to ruin my shots.
Benett what i noticed with this system is that I get a lens flare from above when I have the filters on. The reason there is a gap at the top. Suns is above it will get inside the filter producing a lens flare which is not great .
I bought Siftcam case and lens 16mm. The case fell apart within 2 weeks of use. And now they are asking me to just stick it back in. WHich is insane. Why would i put a flimsy lens casing back on and then risk damaging my lens if it falls out.
Sorry to hear that, you might want to check out the neewer cage gen 2. I have a video comparison between smallrig and neewer cage th-cam.com/video/apn0rpTjSw4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=tjzyO4Mi7LJcYp1X.
I bought one... the "magnet" system was a disaster for me.. maybe im clumsy but i just kept knocking it off... with predictable results.. also a lot of light leakage..
Hy benett !!! The filters from programms are not good ??? I take the filters from youcut and i think from the strong filters the quality of the Video is bad... is that right?? Its all filters from Programms and apps are bad ???
The best advice I can give you i to capture theae moments from different angles (wide, medium and close up shots). This will create a more dynamic video in the end.
I have seen in other videos that for the iphone 15 pro max, the best results are obtained in the range of ISO 1250 (HDR happens to be the highest). However, in those conditions, when filming outside, may be the ND filter of this cage is not enough, we would need to have an nd filter that goes beyong ND32. Small Rig doesnt have one I think. What would be your recommendation?
I have this SmallRig VND with magnet mount on cage and find it ok. Do i get correctly that this would work with clip mount too? Asking since sometimes cage seems bulky especially when you shot on the go
I bought one... the "magnet" system was a disaster for me.. maybe im clumsy but i just kept knocking it off... with predictable results.. also a lot of light leakage.. id go for screw on
Or you could buy a Beastcage and not have any vignetting with the 13mm ultra wide lens because Vadym Chalenko knows how to design these cages properly.
Way to go there, buy a cage that's designed for obsolete lenses. The iPhone 15 Beastcage includes a plate for Moment's new T-series lenses. Beastgrip dropped the M plate for the simple reason that the M lenses don't work properly on the iPhone 15. It ain't rocket science :)
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I prefer the neewer system, because even though it might be convenient to use magnets, I prefer using standard filters. I can use ANY 67mm filter, and those same filters can also be used on interchangeable lenses that support them. For me, one of my design constraints in my iPhone rig was that every piece (aside from the iPhone cage) should be able to be transferred to a mirrorless if I decided to upgrade. Screwing them on can be annoying but it is also a little more stable if i mount it on a car or something.
Good point, thanks for sharing your setup 👍🏻
I use the Snap Photo Gear setup. Super slim and uses even smaller filter at 58mm. Fits nicely in your pocket. Even supports using the DJI Gimbals. snapphotogear.com/
One think that I’ve really been struggling with is finding a way to use smallrig’s camera cage with standard threaded filters instead of smallrig’s proprietary magnetic filters.
Same here 😔
me too! have you found a good suitable one?
Appreciate your sharing, Benett. I've encountered identical issues with these filters. While I'm a fan of SmallRigs equipment, it's crucial for them to address these issues promptly. Otherwise, customers might opt for the Neewer system instead.
I agree, that would be fantastic
Na niemiecki
Hello,
I have a question regarding the SmallRig x Brandon Li Mobile Video Kit for iPhone 15 Pro Max Co-Design Edition. Do I need to change the adapter to the 17mm thread lens backplate for iPhone 15 Pro Max / 15 Pro Cage every time I want to attach a lens? And then, if I want to mount an ND filter, do I have to switch it back to the original one again? Is there any way to mount both a filter and a lens without having to change the adapter?
6:53 this is so smart!! It's been a HUGE problem for me. Thank you so much for the helpful video!!
You're so welcome!
Thank you Benett for the tip. I mean the only thing that was bothering me with the small rig filter system was the "loose" adapter ring as sometimes it fell off with the filter on it. I will use your tip using a tape! Cheers for this idea! Looking forward to more videos from you with the iPhone 15ProMax.
Glad it helped
When you were talking about the possibility of the filters falling off, I was thinking "Gaffer Tape"!😁
The VND filter likely has color shifts you didn't notice. I spent a lot of time comparing different filter brands and even major brands like Tiffen had filters with noticeable color issues. The best I found was a set from NiSi. I mostly shoot with a 1:85 Anamorphic lens from Small Rig. I tried a couple of others and they all had sharpness issues. Unfortunately, the Small Rig only takes magnetic filters and I didn't want to buy all new filters just for that lens. I ended up gluing an adapter ring to the magnetic filter mount and I can use screw-on filters now. With step-up rings I can use my 72mm VND and a 72mm 1/8 Mist filter with no vignetting issues. I also put a couple of drops of Cyanoacrylate glue on the magnetic mount to counter the additional weight of the filters. I can't quickly shift from landscape to portrait mode now, but why would I want to?
Thanks for sharing your setup. I think the polarpro is also a nice compact case where you can screw on lager filters. Haven‘t tested them put yet.
To be honest the M mount is kind of a weird choice for small rig because the Moment M series do not work anymore with later generation phones for instance the 15 series phones, I wish they made a filter adapter that would fit on the t series plate instead of
Same here! Hope they‘ll change that in the future 👍🏻
@@BenettGraezerI’m surprised you haven’t talked about any gradient filters in this video
Hey Bennet, thanks for the gaffer tape tip! I was annoyed with how loose the M mount gets 😂. I might think about getting the Neewer system since the filter mount covers the lenses fully, leaving no gaps for light leaks, and it’s case already has 17mm threads so technically this system should solve our issue of changing backplates 😅 great video btw, thank you for sharing your experience! Glad to know you’re also facing the same things as I am 😂
Thanks for your comment! I’ll be doing a comparison between the two soon, so stay tuned :)
Thank you for the video! I recently got one, is great! but only complaint I have is they decided to use the M-mount instead the T-Mount. I check with SmallRig, they still don't have a T-Series filter mount
That is unfortunate, i find them to be better too 👍🏻
Thanks for nu the video and honest thoughts. I returned the Smallrig Cage and the 52mm system. Switched to the Reeflex G-serie and 67mm filters with a universal cage. Best system 😊
Thanks for tuning in! Glad that setup works for you!
I want to keep the small rig cage but thought I could get the reflex filters, but It doesn't fit :(
For real why doesnt this ring fit correctly on the cage? I want to screw it on a use the 24mm lens, why is the ring blocking it!? why would they design something like that!? Im so mad!
Oh and I get a horrible glare in my lens when I have the ring on in harsh light. Light seems to hit the ring perfectly to ruin my shots.
Hi Benett! Thank you for the amazing video!
Please, could you tell me wich adapter works better with Sandmarc lens?
Thanks 17mm adapter 👍🏻
Benett what i noticed with this system is that I get a lens flare from above when I have the filters on. The reason there is a gap at the top. Suns is above it will get inside the filter producing a lens flare which is not great .
Thanks for sharing. I did notice that too.
Huge issue for me too. The light leaks are a pain in the ass.
I bought Siftcam case and lens 16mm. The case fell apart within 2 weeks of use. And now they are asking me to just stick it back in. WHich is insane. Why would i put a flimsy lens casing back on and then risk damaging my lens if it falls out.
Sorry to hear that, you might want to check out the neewer cage gen 2. I have a video comparison between smallrig and neewer cage th-cam.com/video/apn0rpTjSw4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=tjzyO4Mi7LJcYp1X.
Do these sell any Wilde-angle lens?
I bought one... the "magnet" system was a disaster for me.. maybe im clumsy but i just kept knocking it off... with predictable results.. also a lot of light leakage..
Hy benett !!! The filters from programms are not good ??? I take the filters from youcut and i think from the strong filters the quality of the Video is bad... is that right?? Its all filters from Programms and apps are bad ???
Hello... How do I take a video of a child’s birthday in a professional way using an iPhone? I will be grateful
The best advice I can give you i to capture theae moments from different angles (wide, medium and close up shots). This will create a more dynamic video in the end.
I have seen in other videos that for the iphone 15 pro max, the best results are obtained in the range of ISO 1250 (HDR happens to be the highest). However, in those conditions, when filming outside, may be the ND filter of this cage is not enough, we would need to have an nd filter that goes beyong ND32. Small Rig doesnt have one I think. What would be your recommendation?
I had the neewer vnd, I returned it because nd32 didn’t cut it when I used it on a normal sunny day. Wondering if the smallrig vnds can be stacked up?
I have this SmallRig VND with magnet mount on cage and find it ok. Do i get correctly that this would work with clip mount too? Asking since sometimes cage seems bulky especially when you shot on the go
Yes it also works as a clip mount 👍🏻
Hi Bennet, thanks for putting this, would you say go for this magnetic system or the universal one. I don't intend on getting the 15 cage
I bought one... the "magnet" system was a disaster for me.. maybe im clumsy but i just kept knocking it off... with predictable results.. also a lot of light leakage.. id go for screw on
@@elingrome5853 thanks for you reply, was this also with the supplied clamp?
Or you could buy a Beastcage and not have any vignetting with the 13mm ultra wide lens because Vadym Chalenko knows how to design these cages properly.
True, thanks for your input 👍🏻
Way to go there, buy a cage that's designed for obsolete lenses. The iPhone 15 Beastcage includes a plate for Moment's new T-series lenses. Beastgrip dropped the M plate for the simple reason that the M lenses don't work properly on the iPhone 15. It ain't rocket science :)