Yea, great and instructive review, Rex. I’m 73 and just returned to modelling after decades of absence. Decided to treat myself to this Eclipse to kick-start things. Im delighted with it and your review is a real encouragement. :)
I'm a 72 year old Military Veteran. I wish to Thank You for the great Review of the IWATA Eclipse HP-CS. My wife and I have watched many, many of your TH-cam Video's on Airbrushing. They are great and we both compliment you in all your great airbrushing reviews. In fact you might say we both are hooked on you and your review videos, bar none. In Retirement I dabble with airbrushing as a hobby in order to have something to do in my old age. I have been wanting to upgrade my airbrush to a higher quality airbrush. So far all I've ever had and been able to afford have been the cheaper airbrushes. The last one I purchased was a cheap Master airbrush. Even that one I have not been happy with. So I've been looking at reviews of different higher priced airbrushes. A lot of different airbrush artists seem to praise the IWATA Eclipse HP-CS in their reviews. Well that praise now includes you and your own review as well. Yes, after watching many reviews of all the different air brushes available upon the market by different airbrush artists I've now chosen to purchase the IWATA Eclipse HP-CS as my next airbrush as nothing else will do. But unfortunately, it will again have to wait a few years as a low-income retirement pay just doesn't go very far after the bills are paid and other necessary household items have been purchased. As they always say, "Bills and necessary expenses first, luxury items and hobby equipment maybe eventually". So with that said and unless a miracle occurrs and/or I win the lottery it will be an almost impossiblity to save up enough funds to purchase an IWATA Eclipse HP-CS even from our local Hobby Lobby store. But I can at least dream on. Oh well, so much for dreams, aren't they great even if they very seldom ever come true. May all of your own dreams come true, and GOD Bless You in all your endeavors thoughout your life. Anyway Rex, Thank You for your wonderful great review of the IWATA Eclipse HP-CS as well as for all of your other wonderful great reviews of other airbrush paint and equipment. Again, my wife and I both Thank You Sir for a job well done on all your review video's.
Thanks for the review Rex. As I watch I will say I've been happy with my HP-CS. User friendly and easy to clean. Easy to bump up to a .50 needle/nozzle setup too.
I bought my Eclipse back in 2009? and have never used it yet!!! But, with instructions from your channel, I've now got a nice booth, accessories and most importantly, knowledge to use it correctly. I'm a model railroader, so painting details, figures and custom builds, I'm now set to more enjoy my hobby!!! Glad I got the right airbrush from the start! Mine came with a .35 nozzle and I've ordered a .5 also.
The Eclipse was my first airbrush 7 or 8 years ago. I bought that same package at Hobby Lobby with a 40% off coupon, so I figured it was a pretty good deal. I'm happy i started with a quality brush and didn't need to fight issues with the airbrush as I was learning to use it. One thing to note is that the needle packing is farther back behind the cup than I think the Badgers have it, so it helps to get a pipe cleaner in behind the cup when cleaning it out. Those interdental brushes don't reach far enough. I do that after every painting session and haven't had a problem with it.
Honestly despite the Iwata being expensive it is probably the best airbrush you can get. The amount of control and the quality it just can't be matched
@@barbatosrex9473 yea I’ll own one some day! But honestly I’ll probably try to grab this eclipse next. Looks like it’s perfect for gunpla and it gets tight enough for pre/post shading
I have this same airbrush. No complaints after 5 models worth of spraying. I find the control button/lever very comfortable. Feels and performs like a quality made tool.
I have a gravity feed HP-C Plus and a bottle feed HP-BCS. Let me tell you they are the best bar none. I used to own cheap Paasche and Badger - they sucked. They needed wax for the nozzle and they spitted and hard to clean. The two Iwatas I abuse by spraying all kinds of harsh stuff like lacquer and acrylics. Rarely need to lubricate the air trigger, never had a seal failed, I bent the needle tip once and just bent it right back and sprayed like new. Top quality material and after twenty years still look like new.
Thanks for another great review. I love my CS. The E3 is a 0.35 needle and the air brush can be converted to use a 0.5 needle. I ended up getting a Revolution with a 0.5 needle so I can cover all my needs with out switching parts. I've been using about 20 psi for Acrylics and Lacquers but you can go up to 55 psi with it. I've not tried enamels yet.
So he decided better to buy the revolution that comes with the 0.5 needle, how does the revolution airbrush work, the bad thing is that I already bought the 0.5 needle and some of the accessories, but the sales agent who assisted me told me that I needed to buy one Part that did not come in the online sales catalog. and now I don't know if it's true or not
@@RCrawlerLeon The issue I had with the CS is that it is a pain to swap needles. You can't just swap the needle you need a new needle, nozzle, and nozzle cap. I wanted a .5 available for primers and gloss coats so went with the Revolution. I was looking at a variety of airbrushes but decided to stay with Iwata. The Revolution works great, same action as CS and gets great coverage where I don't need the fine detail. Here are the three parts from the Iwata manual for the E5 needle conversion Nozzle Cap: I6021 Nozzle: I6041 Needle: I6171
@@Johnny_Electronic I am considering acquiring another Eclipse to have one mounted with the 0.5 needle and the other as it comes from the factory, consider buying the Revolution from Japan, but it already costs me the same as the Eclipse bought in my country, and surely I would even have import tax to pay. Saludos
@@RCrawlerLeon Yeap, in that case I'd do the same. For me the Revolution was about $40-50 less than the Eclipse. I love the Eclipse and for me it is easier to clean than the Revolution. Might do what you are doing in the future.
Thanks for the review and demo! Very well done. My son is into making fishing lures and ready to move up from my entry level Badger I bought when I was in college - he wants a gravity-feed vs siphon feed like my Badger is. This is the one he thinks he's decided on - great tips here for cleaning so I'll have to make sure he watches this. Glad to see all the comments here as well from people who have had this same airbrush for quite some time and that it's a good one.
I would like to recommend another airbrush which happens to be my favorite. It's the GSI Creos Procon. Made in Japan in the same plant as Iwata by Mr Hobby. Absolutely the same quality with extra features. It's currently on sale now for under $100. Heres the link amzn.to/3JhSlKA
@@barbatosrex9473 thanks for the recommendation! I just watched your review on the Procon - do you suggest that because it's a single action? My son does very well with my double-action Badger. I know some of the fishing lure guys he follows use this Eclipse and recommend it. Appreciate what you do!!
@@dcroz93 it's a double action. You might have watched the wrong video. The link I gave you is their top model double action. It also has a Mac valve that let's you adjust the airflow from the airbrush. I would stear wrong
@@barbatosrex9473 you're right, my bad! I searched your site for a review of the Procon and found the single action review - and didn't double check it against the Amazon link, just assumed it was the same one.
Thanks for the informative review. I have had a Paasche H that I just was about to start using that I had purchased over 15 years ago, and wife surprised me with a Bday gift of the hp-cs after she saw me watching your review. So really thank you, and her 😀.
Just ordered one of these. Was looking for one that had a bigger paint cup. I like my Badger 360 but find I only really use it as gravity feed and it has a very small cup. Thanks for the review.
That n97 super glue in the background is probably the best damn ca flue I’ve ever used! It stays upright and the little needle attachments let you get into anywhere yet don’t get easily clogged.
Thanks for the review, I recently purchased an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS and I am very satisfied with the performance. I am one of those people who like to paint with acrylics only, and I would like your recommendation for the best acrylic chrome.
Good review. Don't use the Iwata lube it gums up. If you ever have trouble pushing stynylrez warm the bottle in warm water and shake the heck out of it.
I've got a Badger Omni 4000 that does great for fine lines and detail work, but I'm thinking of adding the HP-CS to get more coverage on larger areas. Thanks for the review.
Interesting that there's a recommended pressure range on the airbrush box. I feel like I'd still go with the paint mfr recommendations. For example, I usually see Vallejo recommend 15 to 20psi for airbrushing their colors. Iwata is an industry standard name, I can't say I'm surprised that it performed well. At the same time, I am still happy to see you had a good experience with it 👍
Thanks for the informative review. I've got the HP-CS also, and it's been a good airbrush to learn with. It's hard to make a mistake that's not just a simple rookie mistake when the airbrush is just so easy to use. It's definitely good to see someone with some experience put it through the paces and get good consistent results.
I've had my HP-BS (small cup version) for at least 20 years. It still works like new even though some of the chrome has worn off the inside of the paint cup. If I would've bought the larger paint cup CS version back in the day, it would probably still be my main airbrush. I just didn't know at the time how limiting the smaller cup would be, and it was cheaper... but anyway, I have a Revolution when I need a larger needle, and i've recently started using a Procon Boy 289 as my main airbrush, and it does feel kinda similar, but the trigger doesn't feel as nice as the Eclipse. If it weren't for the mac valve on the Procon Boy, I probably would've just gotten an HP-CS to replace the BS, but I wanted that extra adjustability built in to the brush.
Great and accurate review. I’ve just come out of a “few year” break from modelling, made sure, as always, my HP-CS was clean when I finished with it, but basically walked out of the man cave and didn’t walk back in until the last few days. Fired up the HP-CS for the first time, in about 4 years, yesterday and it sprayed perfectly, well as perfect as my ability allows. It was like putting on an old sock. I started out with a cheap China airbrush, didn’t persist with that very long before I got the Iwata. It was like stepping out of a Hyundai into a Ferrari. I would recommend this brush to anyone thinking of upgrading from cheap China. It’ll make your day.
@@geroschorch1365 Hyundai is a reliable car. Ferrari... 🤣 you'll spend more on maintenance in a couple years for the ferrari than you would spend to buy a brand new fully loaded Hyundai. those kind of "supercars" are famously unreliable.
Rex, Your review has just put the Eclipse to the top of my want list. You know...put the female half of the quick release on the top of the filter, then all your brushes would benefit from it...just an idea
Great review always my friend, I simply adore my Eclipse. It's been my go to for years now. Side note, your mic was picking up some crazy audio with this brush.
I have been using a HP/BCS .5mm needle with siphon bottle, .. up graded with an adjustable tail piece from the Super Micron series. I have looking for the past few years to add another brush with a .3mm needle for detail work. I won't need the volume capacity of paint on the detail brush, so a top cup will be OK. After looking at SO many others, I think I will end up buying another Iwata like this one you are reviewing, in .3mm and once again, buying the adjustable preset tailpiece from the Super Micron series. I like having the tailpiece to adjust exactly how much paint flow there is, rather than reliance of constant stable finger pull on the trigger. This feature is important when applying weathering and 'dirt' to railroad models, where we need minimal paint flow to lightly mist. My current Iwata with the .5mm does indeed dial down to very small area and very low paint flow, but it is really set up for large area painting of O scale model trains where a top cup is just too small.
That PSI recommendation is for their own specific “Madea” line of paints Their airbrush paints are made for other substrates. Canvas and cotton shirts and stuff. It works fine for plastic but not going to be as strong as dedicated hobby paints.
Love the videos! I have learned so much from watching. I just got back to into customizing Hot Wheel last year after a 10 year hiatus and graduated from rattle cans to airbrushing! Every video is like going to class! Where did you get that cool airbrush holder? It looks like it probably came with an airbrush, but can you buy they separately?
Cool!!!! Great review!!! You go through everything step by step & make it easier to understand!!!! Thank you!!!! Can not wait for your next one!!!!!👍💯😎
I have an idea for you it will be interesting to show us how to maintain a healthy compressor. eg. how to drain out the dusty water completely from the compressor.
What do you use as the black cap to back flush the Iwata Eclipse? Your videos are very clear and helpful. This was particularly beneficial because you sprayed solvent and water-based paints. Thank you.
The answer is a resounding YES! Ive tried most of the brand name brushes and NOTHING beats the HP-CS, NOTHING! The H&S ultra trigger configuration is a little smoother, but otherwise its no comparison.
I have this and the Patriot 105. Love both for painting AoS and 40k models. As to you wondering if it's used on cars most of the top car painters in the world use either the CS or HP-C. HP-C is a small upgrade to CS. Basically a more advanced nozzle system. I'd say the Iwata Microns can go toe to toe with H&S. Both are around the same price. Love the shout out to Spray Gunner. It's the only place I get my big name paints.
I'm looking to get an airbrush. I was going to go with this one but at the end he said the patriot 105 is basically the same thing. Would you say they're the same but badger is just cheaper?
This factory airbrush comes with the 0.35mm needle, are you using this but paint in this session ?. By pure chance you know what parts or accessories must be purchased to upgrade to the 0.5 mm needle. Good Job this aerografo. Tanks
That iwata air squeal reminds me of a star wars ty fighter, very distinct noise. Very good review . I'm currently debating on sotar 20-20 for some fine detail... there's a review for you to do,haha
@Barbatos Rex - could you go into your experiences in-depth on types of paints, like Acrylic vs Enamel etc. And maybe another video going deep on different kinds of glues, maybe some examples on plastics and why some melt with certain glues and such. I have read some things on both but have a hard time of it all sinking in, if I watched somebody like yourself really dig into those two things it would really be a help to me, and I'm sure many other folks!! Anyway, I've been enjoying your videos for a long time now under my old youtube name, cheers.
Glad you have a good computer again. Nice airbrush, wish you could put a 05 needle in also??. Also a needle stop would be nice...My Krome struggles a little with thicker paints and Stynelrez... Have you noticed Stynelrez has gone up a lot in price? $20+ for the small bottle on Amazon?
Order from Spray Gunner if you live in the US. They are fast and reasonable. You can get 2, 4, 8, and 32oz size. 4oz is $10. 8oz is $20. 32oz is 50 but would do lots and lots of model kits/gunpla
Thanks for the video! I have been on the fence between this brush and the badger and this video helped me make a decision (thinking badger). Been using the Gocheer mini airbrush kit off Amazon (on sale for $60 right now). Comes with a .2 .3 and .5 needle all interchangable. In case anyone sees this comment it's a fantastic starter brush to get you into the hobby just to see if it's something you'd like to continue, but the included compressor leaves a lot to be desired. Just think it's time for me to move onto something better. Would love to see a review of the Gocheer for fun to get more people into the hobby.
I just got one from Amazon extremely happy with it definitely sprays better than my cheap Fenga FE-183k and my Paasche VL , but one question please I wanted the 3.5 option which I ordered and due to my OCD I just whated to confirm that's the one I have got as they do others , but I can't find the size anywhere even under my magnifying light , surely it says the size somewhere...!! My others do but I can't find it anywhere so where does it state what size set up you are using ...?? All the best
I know this is a decent airbrush as I have one. Just to let you know, maybe set the camera off to your left side just a bit when showing how it paints. When your up close all we see is the back of your hand and the finished product when you show it. I just borrowed mine from a friend as I just started painting and already I am doing much better lines and more even coatings even with the cheapest of budget paints to waste practicing with.
Do you tend to use the Iwata Eclipse recommended 25-35 PSI or do you tend to go with the recommended PSI depending on the brand of paint? I'm still learning lots through trial/error with my Eclipse. Sometimes so many unknown factors (PSI/distance/paint type/recommended thinner/etc) it gets a bit overwhelming. Painted 2 kits so far. Been on the spectrum of having orange peel textures and the opposite spectrum of sandy/grainy textures. Getting the hang of it though.😶
Is the HP-CS worth the money? I'm retired and on a fixed income so it would be a big expense for me. I am new to the hobby and can't seem to get an even flow.... my Master $30 air brush keeps clogging up. Would the HP-CS help with this any?
I would go with the Iwata. It does however cost a little more. You really can't go wrong with either. You can get the GSI for about $50 less which is a decent amount of cash. You can out the extra cash towards a good compressor with it if you don't have a good one
I have all this great equipment thanks to your videos love the work you do but sadly no paint I can’t find any of the paint I need in stock anywhere :(
I have their moisture trap/filter set up in my air line with a QD on the outlet so that it can go on my other brush too. Besides my Iwata, I use an ancient early 1950s Thayer and Chandler AA. Sadly, its pretty much end of life after decades of use... and the new parts made for it are just too crappy. Back to the filter... I was thinking about putting about a foot or so of air line after it, then having the QD connector. That would take the bulkiness of the filter off the airbrush... It may or may not work well in practice, just an idea to try at this point.
I see you have a small estes alpha rocket on the table. How would airbrushed work if you wanted to paint it. Also, what would be the largest rocket you'd try to paint with airbrush? I have a 2.5" diameter rocket I want to paint with airbrush, . Am I pushing it? Thanks.
I was about to buy an Iwata until I saw your recent positive review of the Neoeco AB, the obvious choice for best value overall. Are there any significant functional benefits to the Iwata (at roughly 3X greater price)? Thanks
I have the Iwata Neo CN which was my first AB and it works very well but struggles a little with heavier coverage. How would you compare the CS with that Rex. I also have bought on your recommendation the Procon Boy Platinum 289 and Badger 105, so between them I think I have most things covered.
To tell you the truth I never liked the Neo. I had one but didn't like the performance. I switched to the GSI after that and never looked back. This is the first Iwata since then. I feel they should not put their name on the Neo line as I think it brings the brand down. But that's just me and my opinion
Nice review. Which type of airbrush do you prefer to use on models? Gravity feed or would you prefer a side feed? I'm looking into getting a side feed but, I don't know if they would the best to paint the model bodies. Thanks
Gravity without a doubt. Side feed is the same as gravity aso u don't see a problem. I will be doing a video on why I like gravity more than siphon. Plus I'm shopping right now for a side feed to test on the channel
@@barbatosrex9473 thanks for the reply. I watch your video's quiet a bit. They have helped me improve on my model painting and mixing paint to the correct ratio. Thanks again.
I bought this airbrush largely based on the widespread acclaim it has, but discovered that it’s not really any better than most of my other brushes. For this price point I just don’t get it. The Neo would be good enough. A Badger Patriot would be good enough as would a Paasche VL. Just my opinion.
I personally agree with you. If you noticed you've never seen me using this airbrush again. After a couple weeks I just didn't see the praise. I gave it to my friend who likes it.
This is coming in today. Ran with a cheap no-name airbrush for a few weeks to make sure I wanted to invest and. Yeah. Super looking forward to using this one! I'll still have my cheapo one for running varnishes and the like, but looking forward to the better control with this. Also, have you tried the Pro Acryl primer? I got a bad batch of Stinylrez recently (must have frozen at some point) and found I really like the Pro Acryl primer better. It's just less available...
Thank’s for the review. 👍 Quest - Did you weigh the airbrush with it’s associated in-line water trap; and did you happen to Polish the needle to see what was the resulting effects (if any?). Just ask’n.😳
The trap was pretty light, an Oz or two if I remember. The needle in this was really nice out of the box so it didn't need it yet like the other brands. As much as I like Badger, their needles always require a quick polish when you first get it
I've recently been shopping for airbrushs. I noticed that there's several different models of eclipse airbrushs. What are the differences in the models ?
Yea, great and instructive review, Rex. I’m 73 and just returned to modelling after decades of absence. Decided to treat myself to this Eclipse to kick-start things. Im delighted with it and your review is a real encouragement. :)
I'm a 72 year old Military Veteran. I wish to Thank You for the great Review of the IWATA Eclipse HP-CS. My wife and I have watched many, many of your TH-cam Video's on Airbrushing. They are great and we both compliment you in all your great airbrushing reviews. In fact you might say we both are hooked on you and your review videos, bar none.
In Retirement I dabble with airbrushing as a hobby in order to have something to do in my old age. I have been wanting to upgrade my airbrush to a higher quality airbrush. So far all I've ever had and been able to afford have been the cheaper airbrushes. The last one I purchased was a cheap Master airbrush. Even that one I have not been happy with. So I've been looking at reviews of different higher priced airbrushes. A lot of different airbrush artists seem to praise the IWATA Eclipse HP-CS in their reviews. Well that praise now includes you and your own review as well.
Yes, after watching many reviews of all the different air brushes available upon the market by different airbrush artists I've now chosen to purchase the IWATA Eclipse HP-CS as my next airbrush as nothing else will do. But unfortunately, it will again have to wait a few years as a low-income retirement pay just doesn't go very far after the bills are paid and other necessary household items have been purchased. As they always say, "Bills and necessary expenses first, luxury items and hobby equipment maybe eventually".
So with that said and unless a miracle occurrs and/or I win the lottery it will be an almost impossiblity to save up enough funds to purchase an IWATA Eclipse HP-CS even from our local Hobby Lobby store. But I can at least dream on.
Oh well, so much for dreams, aren't they great even if they very seldom ever come true. May all of your own dreams come true, and GOD Bless You in all your endeavors thoughout your life.
Anyway Rex, Thank You for your wonderful great review of the IWATA Eclipse HP-CS as well as for all of your other wonderful great reviews of other airbrush paint and equipment. Again, my wife and I both Thank You Sir for a job well done on all your review video's.
Thanks for the review Rex. As I watch I will say I've been happy with my HP-CS. User friendly and easy to clean. Easy to bump up to a .50 needle/nozzle setup too.
I bought my Eclipse back in 2009? and have never used it yet!!! But, with instructions from your channel, I've now got a nice booth, accessories and most importantly, knowledge to use it correctly. I'm a model railroader, so painting details, figures and custom builds, I'm now set to more enjoy my hobby!!! Glad I got the right airbrush from the start! Mine came with a .35 nozzle and I've ordered a .5 also.
The Eclipse was my first airbrush 7 or 8 years ago. I bought that same package at Hobby Lobby with a 40% off coupon, so I figured it was a pretty good deal. I'm happy i started with a quality brush and didn't need to fight issues with the airbrush as I was learning to use it. One thing to note is that the needle packing is farther back behind the cup than I think the Badgers have it, so it helps to get a pipe cleaner in behind the cup when cleaning it out. Those interdental brushes don't reach far enough. I do that after every painting session and haven't had a problem with it.
Honestly despite the Iwata being expensive it is probably the best airbrush you can get. The amount of control and the quality it just can't be matched
Idk man the harder and Steinbeck’s are stupid nice! Expensive af but everyone says they are top notch
I agree with you on that. The H&S seems to be in a league of their own
@@barbatosrex9473 yea I’ll own one some day! But honestly I’ll probably try to grab this eclipse next. Looks like it’s perfect for gunpla and it gets tight enough for pre/post shading
I will be also doing illustrations in addition and some experts are having to modify trigger responses with H &S iwata seems to need nothing
I have this same airbrush. No complaints after 5 models worth of spraying. I find the control button/lever very comfortable. Feels and performs like a quality made tool.
Recently purchased an Iwata Neo. So far, I have no complaints about it.
Just bought one. Perfect timing for this video. Cant wait to run some paint through it this weekend
Same
I have a gravity feed HP-C Plus and a bottle feed HP-BCS. Let me tell you they are the best bar none. I used to own cheap Paasche and Badger - they sucked. They needed wax for the nozzle and they spitted and hard to clean. The two Iwatas I abuse by spraying all kinds of harsh stuff like lacquer and acrylics. Rarely need to lubricate the air trigger, never had a seal failed, I bent the needle tip once and just bent it right back and sprayed like new. Top quality material and after twenty years still look like new.
badger是垃圾筆,我支150為了配件維修已浪費很多金錢,密封又差,早知一早用岩田噴筆,
Agree100% I use one for automotive work , love it just bought a second one
Thanks for another great review. I love my CS. The E3 is a 0.35 needle and the air brush can be converted to use a 0.5 needle. I ended up getting a Revolution with a 0.5 needle so I can cover all my needs with out switching parts. I've been using about 20 psi for Acrylics and Lacquers but you can go up to 55 psi with it. I've not tried enamels yet.
So he decided better to buy the revolution that comes with the 0.5 needle, how does the revolution airbrush work, the bad thing is that I already bought the 0.5 needle and some of the accessories, but the sales agent who assisted me told me that I needed to buy one Part that did not come in the online sales catalog. and now I don't know if it's true or not
@@RCrawlerLeon The issue I had with the CS is that it is a pain to swap needles. You can't just swap the needle you need a new needle, nozzle, and nozzle cap. I wanted a .5 available for primers and gloss coats so went with the Revolution. I was looking at a variety of airbrushes but decided to stay with Iwata. The Revolution works great, same action as CS and gets great coverage where I don't need the fine detail.
Here are the three parts from the Iwata manual for the E5 needle conversion
Nozzle Cap: I6021
Nozzle: I6041
Needle: I6171
@@Johnny_Electronic I am considering acquiring another Eclipse to have one mounted with the 0.5 needle and the other as it comes from the factory, consider buying the Revolution from Japan, but it already costs me the same as the Eclipse bought in my country, and surely I would even have import tax to pay. Saludos
@@RCrawlerLeon Yeap, in that case I'd do the same. For me the Revolution was about $40-50 less than the Eclipse. I love the Eclipse and for me it is easier to clean than the Revolution. Might do what you are doing in the future.
Just got one myself, it's amazing, it doesn't even compare with my previous cheap airbrush.
Thanks for the review and demo! Very well done. My son is into making fishing lures and ready to move up from my entry level Badger I bought when I was in college - he wants a gravity-feed vs siphon feed like my Badger is. This is the one he thinks he's decided on - great tips here for cleaning so I'll have to make sure he watches this. Glad to see all the comments here as well from people who have had this same airbrush for quite some time and that it's a good one.
I would like to recommend another airbrush which happens to be my favorite. It's the GSI Creos Procon. Made in Japan in the same plant as Iwata by Mr Hobby. Absolutely the same quality with extra features. It's currently on sale now for under $100. Heres the link
amzn.to/3JhSlKA
@@barbatosrex9473 thanks for the recommendation! I just watched your review on the Procon - do you suggest that because it's a single action? My son does very well with my double-action Badger. I know some of the fishing lure guys he follows use this Eclipse and recommend it. Appreciate what you do!!
@@dcroz93 it's a double action. You might have watched the wrong video. The link I gave you is their top model double action. It also has a Mac valve that let's you adjust the airflow from the airbrush. I would stear wrong
@@barbatosrex9473 you're right, my bad! I searched your site for a review of the Procon and found the single action review - and didn't double check it against the Amazon link, just assumed it was the same one.
I got my Iwata hp-cs last week and honestly its been the best purchase for awhile
My model club uses Eclipses to teach kids how to airbrush. Easy to clean and can stand up to abuse. Damn near bullet proof. I love my Eclipse!
Thanks for the video, just ordered mine from hobby lobby in mass. Excited to give her a rip
Great airbrush, smart purchase
Thanks for the informative review. I have had a Paasche H that I just was about to start using that I had purchased over 15 years ago, and wife surprised me with a Bday gift of the hp-cs after she saw me watching your review. So really thank you, and her 😀.
I use the hp-cs it’s a great all around airbrush it works for models art shoes basically whatever you want except for extreme fine detail like hair
Another fantastic video! If you have to choose between HP-CS and PS-289 who would you pick as an all around airbrush ?
Just ordered one of these. Was looking for one that had a bigger paint cup. I like my Badger 360 but find I only really use it as gravity feed and it has a very small cup. Thanks for the review.
Great review getting mine tomorrow! I have to admit I was cringing a little when you were installing that needle. 😂
I love the eclipse. I have a HP-CS converted to .5. a Takumi Eclipse with the .3, and a I just recently splurged on a Takumi Custom Micron.
What accessories did you purchase to upgrade your Eclipse Iwatta to 0.5mm? GRacias!!
@@RCrawlerLeon I reached out to TAG Team Hobbies and the owner put together a package for it. It’s the needle, nozzle, and one or 2 other prices.
That n97 super glue in the background is probably the best damn ca flue I’ve ever used! It stays upright and the little needle attachments let you get into anywhere yet don’t get easily clogged.
Great to know. They sent it to me to test
Thanks for the review, I recently purchased an Iwata Eclipse HP-CS and I am very satisfied with the performance. I am one of those people who like to paint with acrylics only, and I would like your recommendation for the best acrylic chrome.
Good review. Don't use the Iwata lube it gums up. If you ever have trouble pushing stynylrez warm the bottle in warm water and shake the heck out of it.
Keep up the great work Mr Barbados! Cant wait to see your next review .
I've got a Badger Omni 4000 that does great for fine lines and detail work, but I'm thinking of adding the HP-CS to get more coverage on larger areas. Thanks for the review.
Interesting that there's a recommended pressure range on the airbrush box. I feel like I'd still go with the paint mfr recommendations. For example, I usually see Vallejo recommend 15 to 20psi for airbrushing their colors. Iwata is an industry standard name, I can't say I'm surprised that it performed well. At the same time, I am still happy to see you had a good experience with it 👍
Thanks for the informative review. I've got the HP-CS also, and it's been a good airbrush to learn with. It's hard to make a mistake that's not just a simple rookie mistake when the airbrush is just so easy to use. It's definitely good to see someone with some experience put it through the paces and get good consistent results.
Been using eclipse for the past 3 years so far the best all around airbrush I’ve owned.
Yea .35 needle. Great review. Santa just brought me one, must have been a good boy
Thanks for the review, that's the one I'm using and I couldn't be happier, it's a great air brush.
I've had my HP-BS (small cup version) for at least 20 years. It still works like new even though some of the chrome has worn off the inside of the paint cup. If I would've bought the larger paint cup CS version back in the day, it would probably still be my main airbrush. I just didn't know at the time how limiting the smaller cup would be, and it was cheaper... but anyway, I have a Revolution when I need a larger needle, and i've recently started using a Procon Boy 289 as my main airbrush, and it does feel kinda similar, but the trigger doesn't feel as nice as the Eclipse. If it weren't for the mac valve on the Procon Boy, I probably would've just gotten an HP-CS to replace the BS, but I wanted that extra adjustability built in to the brush.
Great and accurate review.
I’ve just come out of a “few year” break from modelling, made sure, as always, my HP-CS was clean when I finished with it, but basically walked out of the man cave and didn’t walk back in until the last few days. Fired up the HP-CS for the first time, in about 4 years, yesterday and it sprayed perfectly, well as perfect as my ability allows. It was like putting on an old sock.
I started out with a cheap China airbrush, didn’t persist with that very long before I got the Iwata. It was like stepping out of a Hyundai into a Ferrari. I would recommend this brush to anyone thinking of upgrading from cheap China. It’ll make your day.
you're doing hyundai unjustice
@@geroschorch1365 Hyundai is a reliable car.
Ferrari... 🤣 you'll spend more on maintenance in a couple years for the ferrari than you would spend to buy a brand new fully loaded Hyundai. those kind of "supercars" are famously unreliable.
This is my go to. I have two with different setups. I have other brushes but I stay with these mostly.
Just ordered one Rex. Thanks for the review
I have one of these. I love this airbrush!
Great video. Nicely put together and I learned a few things. That was worth the subscription.
Thanks for the sub Guy 👍
Rex, Your review has just put the Eclipse to the top of my want list.
You know...put the female half of the quick release on the top of the filter, then all your brushes would benefit from it...just an idea
Hey thanks for another great video. I'll be patiently waiting for any Badger that comes my way! lol
Great review always my friend, I simply adore my Eclipse. It's been my go to for years now.
Side note, your mic was picking up some crazy audio with this brush.
I have been using a HP/BCS .5mm needle with siphon bottle, .. up graded with an adjustable tail piece from the Super Micron series. I have looking for the past few years to add another brush with a .3mm needle for detail work. I won't need the volume capacity of paint on the detail brush, so a top cup will be OK. After looking at SO many others, I think I will end up buying another Iwata like this one you are reviewing, in .3mm and once again, buying the adjustable preset tailpiece from the Super Micron series. I like having the tailpiece to adjust exactly how much paint flow there is, rather than reliance of constant stable finger pull on the trigger. This feature is important when applying weathering and 'dirt' to railroad models, where we need minimal paint flow to lightly mist. My current Iwata with the .5mm does indeed dial down to very small area and very low paint flow, but it is really set up for large area painting of O scale model trains where a top cup is just too small.
That PSI recommendation is for their own specific “Madea” line of paints
Their airbrush paints are made for other substrates. Canvas and cotton shirts and stuff. It works fine for plastic but not going to be as strong as dedicated hobby paints.
Good review Rex. Thank you! Are the iwata o-rings solvent proof?
One day, I will try one, most folks like to love them, very few bad reviews on it!
Just ordered this set. Can't wait!!!
Love the videos! I have learned so much from watching. I just got back to into customizing Hot Wheel last year after a 10 year hiatus and graduated from rattle cans to airbrushing! Every video is like going to class! Where did you get that cool airbrush holder? It looks like it probably came with an airbrush, but can you buy they separately?
It's made by Hobby Mio and I got it from Robot Kai. Unfortunately since I've been showing it in my videos they've been sold out. Everybody wants one 😉
@@barbatosrex9473 Thanks!
I bought the GSI Creos Mr. Procon Boy WA .3mm based on your recommendation and absolutely love it.
It really is a great airbrush. One of my all time favorites for sure. And it's about $60 less than this one making it a great value compared
I've got 3, and I can't complain about it at all.
That’s one of the best line of air brushes made bar none
Cool!!!! Great review!!! You go through everything step by step & make it easier to understand!!!! Thank you!!!! Can not wait for your next one!!!!!👍💯😎
I have an idea for you it will be interesting to show us how to maintain a healthy compressor. eg. how to drain out the dusty water completely from the compressor.
What do you use as the black cap to back flush the Iwata Eclipse? Your videos are very clear and helpful. This was particularly beneficial because you sprayed solvent and water-based paints. Thank you.
Rex, the needle is a 0.35mm on the Iwata Eclipse.
After you've used it a bit more would be interested in which you like better proton boy or eclipse.
I will go over them all at some point for sure
Awesome video. Just got this airbrush last weekend but haven't had the time to trie it out. Also have u heard of Cuttlefish color's?
I haven't heard of them. Do you have a link for me?
@@barbatosrex9473 ok I've tried multiple times to add the link here but the reply just disappears. I'm guessing it'd a TH-cam thing.
The answer is a resounding YES! Ive tried most of the brand name brushes and NOTHING beats the HP-CS, NOTHING! The H&S ultra trigger configuration is a little smoother, but otherwise its no comparison.
I have this and the Patriot 105. Love both for painting AoS and 40k models.
As to you wondering if it's used on cars most of the top car painters in the world use either the CS or HP-C. HP-C is a small upgrade to CS. Basically a more advanced nozzle system. I'd say the Iwata Microns can go toe to toe with H&S. Both are around the same price.
Love the shout out to Spray Gunner. It's the only place I get my big name paints.
I'm looking to get an airbrush. I was going to go with this one but at the end he said the patriot 105 is basically the same thing. Would you say they're the same but badger is just cheaper?
This factory airbrush comes with the 0.35mm needle, are you using this but paint in this session ?. By pure chance you know what parts or accessories must be purchased to upgrade to the 0.5 mm needle. Good Job this aerografo. Tanks
That iwata air squeal reminds me of a star wars ty fighter, very distinct noise. Very good review . I'm currently debating on sotar 20-20 for some fine detail... there's a review for you to do,haha
@Barbatos Rex - could you go into your experiences in-depth on types of paints, like Acrylic vs Enamel etc. And maybe another video going deep on different kinds of glues, maybe some examples on plastics and why some melt with certain glues and such. I have read some things on both but have a hard time of it all sinking in, if I watched somebody like yourself really dig into those two things it would really be a help to me, and I'm sure many other folks!! Anyway, I've been enjoying your videos for a long time now under my old youtube name, cheers.
Sure, I will make a note to produce such a video
Glad you have a good computer again. Nice airbrush, wish you could put a 05 needle in also??. Also a needle stop would be nice...My Krome struggles a little with thicker paints and Stynelrez... Have you noticed Stynelrez has gone up a lot in price? $20+ for the small bottle on Amazon?
Wow, good thing I bought my Stynylrez a year ago. Great primers though
Order from Spray Gunner if you live in the US. They are fast and reasonable.
You can get 2, 4, 8, and 32oz size. 4oz is $10. 8oz is $20. 32oz is 50 but would do lots and lots of model kits/gunpla
What is a Mac valve ?
Great review, is this better than the H&S Evolution CR + Two in One airbrush? Im looking at purchasing either one!
Absolutely awesome content. Thanks so much for doing this!
Thanks for the video! I have been on the fence between this brush and the badger and this video helped me make a decision (thinking badger).
Been using the Gocheer mini airbrush kit off Amazon (on sale for $60 right now). Comes with a .2 .3 and .5 needle all interchangable. In case anyone sees this comment it's a fantastic starter brush to get you into the hobby just to see if it's something you'd like to continue, but the included compressor leaves a lot to be desired. Just think it's time for me to move onto something better. Would love to see a review of the Gocheer for fun to get more people into the hobby.
I'm pretty happy with the HP-CS. I also really like the patriot. But the Iwata is my go to.
I love my hp-cs, I have it Ryno coated from coast airbrush
Quick QuestionRobert Did you use all the paints with no mix?
I just got one from Amazon extremely happy with it definitely sprays better than my cheap Fenga FE-183k and my Paasche VL , but one question please I wanted the 3.5 option which I ordered and due to my OCD I just whated to confirm that's the one I have got as they do others , but I can't find the size anywhere even under my magnifying light , surely it says the size somewhere...!! My others do but I can't find it anywhere so where does it state what size set up you are using ...?? All the best
It's the only size it comes in so you do have one
@@barbatosrex9473 Ok sorry thought I'd seen other sizes mentioned in adds but cheers for that now I know ...All the best bud
What was the primer you love to use? I did not get the name. I will order that. Thx
I have an Iwata Revolution 0.5 needle, mostly just spray base colors.
I know this is a decent airbrush as I have one. Just to let you know, maybe set the camera off to your left side just a bit when showing how it paints. When your up close all we see is the back of your hand and the finished product when you show it. I just borrowed mine from a friend as I just started painting and already I am doing much better lines and more even coatings even with the cheapest of budget paints to waste practicing with.
Do you tend to use the Iwata Eclipse recommended 25-35 PSI or do you tend to go with the recommended PSI depending on the brand of paint?
I'm still learning lots through trial/error with my Eclipse. Sometimes so many unknown factors (PSI/distance/paint type/recommended thinner/etc) it gets a bit overwhelming. Painted 2 kits so far. Been on the spectrum of having orange peel textures and the opposite spectrum of sandy/grainy textures. Getting the hang of it though.😶
these vids are so relaxing and very helpful! I wouldn't know how to use the air brush if it weren't for you..thx:)
hey barbatos where do you get the airbrush stand
Is the HP-CS worth the money? I'm retired and on a fixed income so it would be a big expense for me. I am new to the hobby and can't seem to get an even flow.... my Master $30 air brush keeps clogging up. Would the HP-CS help with this any?
What would be your recommendation, the Iwata Eclipse HP-CS or GSI Creos Mr. Procon Boy WA?
I would go with the Iwata. It does however cost a little more. You really can't go wrong with either. You can get the GSI for about $50 less which is a decent amount of cash. You can out the extra cash towards a good compressor with it if you don't have a good one
I like how simple this airbrush looks in comparison to the badgers and the GSI creos
Great video mate
really appreciate these reviews. :)
I got a question for you I see that you're using acetone to clean out your airbrush does that hurt you're airbrush
Not in the last 5 years I've been airbrushing. If it's a quality airbrush it will have solvent resistant fittings so it's not a problem
@@barbatosrex9473 I'll have to give it a try because I have right now I have the iwata eclipse hp-bcs
I have all this great equipment thanks to your videos love the work you do but sadly no paint I can’t find any of the paint I need in stock anywhere :(
Phenomenal review as always. Thanks for sharing
I have their moisture trap/filter set up in my air line with a QD on the outlet so that it can go on my other brush too. Besides my Iwata, I use an ancient early 1950s Thayer and Chandler AA. Sadly, its pretty much end of life after decades of use... and the new parts made for it are just too crappy. Back to the filter... I was thinking about putting about a foot or so of air line after it, then having the QD connector. That would take the bulkiness of the filter off the airbrush... It may or may not work well in practice, just an idea to try at this point.
Thanks for great vids I was going to try 2k and wondering what respirator cartridges to use ? Do you use a half or full face mask ? Thank you.
I see you have a small estes alpha rocket on the table. How would airbrushed work if you wanted to paint it. Also, what would be the largest rocket you'd try to paint with airbrush? I have a 2.5" diameter rocket I want to paint with airbrush, . Am I pushing it?
Thanks.
Do you prefer this Iwata HP-CS or the Harder & Steenbeck Evolution?
I was about to buy an Iwata until I saw your recent positive review of the Neoeco AB, the obvious choice for best value overall. Are there any significant functional benefits to the Iwata (at roughly 3X greater price)? Thanks
I have the Iwata Neo CN which was my first AB and it works very well but struggles a little with heavier coverage. How would you compare the CS with that Rex. I also have bought on your recommendation the Procon Boy Platinum 289 and Badger 105, so between them I think I have most things covered.
To tell you the truth I never liked the Neo. I had one but didn't like the performance. I switched to the GSI after that and never looked back. This is the first Iwata since then. I feel they should not put their name on the Neo line as I think it brings the brand down. But that's just me and my opinion
Agreed
So is there any difference between the Iwata Eclypse Hp-Cd and the All-Star version ?
Where and watch compression should I purchase with this?
Nice review. Which type of airbrush do you prefer to use on models? Gravity feed or would you prefer a side feed? I'm looking into getting a side feed but, I don't know if they would the best to paint the model bodies. Thanks
Gravity without a doubt. Side feed is the same as gravity aso u don't see a problem. I will be doing a video on why I like gravity more than siphon. Plus I'm shopping right now for a side feed to test on the channel
@@barbatosrex9473 thanks for the reply. I watch your video's quiet a bit. They have helped me improve on my model painting and mixing paint to the correct ratio. Thanks again.
Great review and test but i was told by a professional spray painter never put acetone in your airbrush or clean your airbrush with it.
I've been using it for the last 5 years and not one of them is out of service, no chrome finish is damaged and none have bad washers or seals
I bought this airbrush largely based on the widespread acclaim it has, but discovered that it’s not really any better than most of my other brushes. For this price point I just don’t get it. The Neo would be good enough. A Badger Patriot would be good enough as would a Paasche VL. Just my opinion.
I personally agree with you. If you noticed you've never seen me using this airbrush again. After a couple weeks I just didn't see the praise. I gave it to my friend who likes it.
This is coming in today. Ran with a cheap no-name airbrush for a few weeks to make sure I wanted to invest and. Yeah. Super looking forward to using this one! I'll still have my cheapo one for running varnishes and the like, but looking forward to the better control with this.
Also, have you tried the Pro Acryl primer? I got a bad batch of Stinylrez recently (must have frozen at some point) and found I really like the Pro Acryl primer better. It's just less available...
Yes, I have Pro Acryl primer here. Haven't tested it yet
Thank’s for the review. 👍 Quest - Did you weigh the airbrush with it’s associated in-line water trap; and did you happen to Polish the needle to see what was the resulting effects (if any?). Just ask’n.😳
The trap was pretty light, an Oz or two if I remember. The needle in this was really nice out of the box so it didn't need it yet like the other brands. As much as I like Badger, their needles always require a quick polish when you first get it
I've recently been shopping for airbrushs. I noticed that there's several different models of eclipse airbrushs. What are the differences in the models ?
I'm thinking about getting a GSI Procon boy pistol grip airbrush. Are any needle kist interchangeable, or where do I get different needle and cone???
What do you thing is a hood compressor to use on this