Has nothing to do with manhood. He clearly doesn’t know what he’s doing, so there’s no way he could show this without showing his mistakes lol props to him for trying, but he isn’t a framer that’s for sure
@@FixItScotty dude, I’m a framer, and there’s multiple things you did that show me you’re not a framer. It took you all day to do that. You did it with sandals on. Do you know how stupid that is? Your squaring process was funny. And who the heck does their layout like that 😂 no one actually makes their marks on center. You mark 3/4 back from each spot and mark an x. You said you had ocd but you’re doing layout like that? Anyways, I wasn’t trying to knock ya, but you disagreed with me so I’m just telling you you’re wrong. That wasn’t “good” framing by any means, it was rookie as can be
@@joekember3319 Seems you're clearly NOT secure in yourself if you need to come online and criticize someone doing what they can with the skills they possess. The guy admits he made mistakes. Sheesh.
Looks like you should always plan for a bit of overhang when marking for your footings, then you won't have the issue. You could also cut some 1/2" plywood into 7 1//4 inch 8 foot strips to place between your beams when you laminate them together. That will make up for the 1/2" gap and also give you a bit more strength.
Thanks for the video. I made the exact same mistake and made my pilions centered at outside dimensions. Ended up building 1’ wider to compensate. I wish I’d of watched this first, but I watched the rest of your build and willl hopefully learn from your mistakes as well as your tips! Very nice job. I’ll be happy if mine turns out that nice!
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I have to ask this question, I live in New Jersey which requires a permit for damn near everything but not a shed of this size unless you are installing a concrete foundation. Where are you that they are requiring all this for a 10 X 12 shed?
I am planning to build a 8*10 which after seeing your video thinking of going 10*12. The challenge is I have a roughly 30deg slope which is the only ideal spot in my yard. Not sure which part of North you are from but I live north of Twincities and definitely where we are hit with snow and coldest temps most part of the year. Any ideas/suggestions from anyone is welcome.
Building on a slope is a challenge. You could still do piers like mine, but the ones on the slope sticking out of the ground may need to be reinforced with rebar.
What brackets did you use to cast into the concrete piers? I'm also working on a shed foundation, but I can't find any brackets that are made to be placed in a concrete pier so that lumber can be placed into them horizontally. They are all built for vertical posts. I'd like to run my skids in in the brackets horizontally, as placing my floor on vertical posts connected to concrete piers would bring my floor up too high.
I used 4x4 brackets. You can either shim the bracket for the extra 1/2" or glue a 1/2" plywood strip to your 2x8 or 2x10 lumber to create a 3.5" width. www.menards.com/main/hardware/fasteners-connectors/construction-hardware/column-post-bases-caps/mitek-reg-4-x-4-steel-2-sided-post-anchor/pa44e-dp/p-1444445522951-c-8825.htm www.menards.com/main/hardware/fasteners-connectors/bolts/anchor-bolts/grip-fast-reg-1-2-x-10-hot-dipped-galvanized-anchor-bolt-w-nut-washer-2-count/1210hgab/hardware/fasteners-connectors/bolts/anchor-bolts/grip-fast-reg-1-2-x-8-hot-dipped-galvanized-anchor-bolt-w-nut-washer-2-count/128hgab/p-1444439570032.htm
@@FixItScotty I appreciate your reply. My main issue is that these brackets are for posts to be placed vertically. Do you know of any brackets that are built to hold lumber in the horizontal position and be cast in concrete?
@@joshuawood6644 I'm not sure. They all seem to be built for upright posts. You could try another type of bracket with higher walls like this? www.lowes.com/pd/Simpson-Strong-Tie-4-in-x-4-in-Triple-Zinc-Wood-to-Concrete-Cast-in-Place-Base/1002708370
😆😆 I hear ya. Since I knew I was going to need a variance to build a larger garage from the local gov, I didn't want to make waves back when I built this.
For me it was two ways: my local code specified minimum pier size and depth. I believe it was 10 inches and a depth of 42 inches since I live up north and the pier has to be below the frost line. As for placement, I just used the shed framing plans that I bought that suggested 3 piers per side with the double 2x8s spanning them. That would be based on the type of dimensional lumber used in the floor framing and the spans allowed for the load.
I gotta ask, would the city not allow you to have your inside rimbeam 1 1/2" short so you could nail the rim joist into the end to make a perfect square and not use a hanger, but sitting on the concrete anchor?
That probably would be fine. My city's code for shed foundation is pretty vague; they give a 3 options for foundation types (slab, piers or auger anchors) and a bunch of requirements around where it can be located (easements between structures, property line, etc.) Other than that, they leave it up to you as to how you frame and build it. I used some pretty standard plans and got no notes from the inspector who passed it.
@FixItScotty Nice! I appreciate the reply. I'm looking into building a 1.5 story workshop shed which will he kinda heavy. Don't wanna pay 7K for just a shed foundation 😄
Newbie here. Why did you not just buy joists- like 16" (or 14" if they have those? The joist on the bottom right of the screen @15:24 is just barely hanging on, if it starts to rot at the end then you're gonna have some issues.
Good question. I should have extended the joists to fit the piers better, but the maximum square footage for a shed that I'm allowed to build in our town is 120 square ft. So I had to keep it at 12' x 10'.
@@FixItScotty I was going to use 2x4s and cover I with deck boards with a deck block on each board and a row in the middle would that work? It’s going to be a 8x8 shed
No, it's not taxation; the permit fees were probably just enough to pay the 3rd party inspector. It's really about safety. Too many people built make-shift storage structures that would fall over or blow away with high winds. So the city overcompensated by regulation.
I don't have that list easily available. But I bought these framing plans that have a pretty good materials list. www.icreatables.com/sheds/10x12-B-backyard-shed-plans
@@eliasdiez9896 I talk about the roof trusses in part 2. I believe they are all 8' 2x4s when I build them and I cut the ends off later after I put the wall sheathing up.
At the time I built this, there was a shortage of pressure treated lumber, but the prices hadn't raised yet. I don't know, where I live, the cost of concrete is a lot too.
Now that you mention, that does seem weird. The text in the city shed requirements was "Concrete piers set to a level 4 o 6 inches above the ground to support a wood floor designed to support 60 lbs. per square foot." That does seem like a rather low bar.
It certainly can be ridiculous. That said, this past weekend I saw a some very expensive wooden playground equipment in the same northern climate as me. It was not that old, but was tilted and jacked all over. Clearly, the installer didn't put the posts into the ground very deep and the result is it is now almost unusable. I am glad knowing that won't happen to my shed.
@@FixItScotty Oh I agree with that. 24"-36" should be enough for most stuff. In PA, it says a variable of at least 24"-48", depending on location, soil, etc. That makes sense to me. I built a chain-linked fence and put all the posts 24" and wet placed the posts with rebar in the middle, then filled the posts with concrete so it's all one piece. Strong.
I think I made it clear in the video the missteps I had in laying out the footings as a warning to others who are doing the same. This was my first shed build.
You didn't jump out of the womb knowing how it's done, either. Relax. If he does it again, the man will have learned from the process and do a great job.
You must have made these mistakes on purpose, just to show how not to make a foundation. I guess a video is better than 1000 words. Do you own a pair of boots?
Did you watch the video? Did I not mention multiple times what I did wrong and how the viewer could learn from my mistake and do it right? Yes. Despite talking about how I'm doing my build, did I ever put words in my video title like "DIY", "Instructional" or "HowTo" or represent myself as a shed expert? No. Are my "embarrassingly" misplaced piers still holding the shed fine after 4 years? Yes.
Do people do that? I would have to get my property re-zoned and it would cost a fortune to get a new municipal sewer hookup. Maybe if I lived out in the country and had my own septic...
Thanks for showing the mistakes so that we can avoid them. Takes a man secure in who he is to do this. Bravo, bud.
Comments like this are few and far between and are really encouraging. Thanks so much!
Has nothing to do with manhood. He clearly doesn’t know what he’s doing, so there’s no way he could show this without showing his mistakes lol props to him for trying, but he isn’t a framer that’s for sure
Disagree. My framing isn't bad; my pier placement is what sucked.
@@FixItScotty dude, I’m a framer, and there’s multiple things you did that show me you’re not a framer. It took you all day to do that. You did it with sandals on. Do you know how stupid that is? Your squaring process was funny. And who the heck does their layout like that 😂 no one actually makes their marks on center. You mark 3/4 back from each spot and mark an x. You said you had ocd but you’re doing layout like that? Anyways, I wasn’t trying to knock ya, but you disagreed with me so I’m just telling you you’re wrong. That wasn’t “good” framing by any means, it was rookie as can be
@@joekember3319 Seems you're clearly NOT secure in yourself if you need to come online and criticize someone doing what they can with the skills they possess. The guy admits he made mistakes. Sheesh.
Great stuff, man. I didn't leap into the world knowing how to do everything, either. Mistakes are a heck of a learning tool, right? Love the video.
$25 for city building permit to build my 10x12 shed in South Dakota, that’s it!….gotta love the freedom!
No permit cost here in NY , no permit needed for 12x12
I don t consider a free state , not by a long shot
Two hours north of NYC
I love videos like this because they show exactly what not to do.
Looks like you should always plan for a bit of overhang when marking for your footings, then you won't have the issue. You could also cut some 1/2" plywood into 7 1//4 inch 8 foot strips to place between your beams when you laminate them together. That will make up for the 1/2" gap and also give you a bit more strength.
Great suggestions
Nice mod of the garden claw pal, great idea.
Thanks!
Thanks for the video. I made the exact same mistake and made my pilions centered at outside dimensions. Ended up building 1’ wider to compensate. I wish I’d of watched this first, but I watched the rest of your build and willl hopefully learn from your mistakes as well as your tips! Very nice job. I’ll be happy if mine turns out that nice!
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I have to ask this question, I live in New Jersey which requires a permit for damn near everything but not a shed of this size unless you are installing a concrete foundation. Where are you that they are requiring all this for a 10 X 12 shed?
I am in the Chicago suburbs.
Scotty you missed center on one of your piers? I mean dead nuts center isn’t important but shit that’s putting a lot of trust on the edge
Yes, hence my warning to watchers to do better than me at setting the pier holes inside the lines.
42inches deep for the footings seems very deep for a shed? Great video mate
Thanks! Yes, 42 inches is to ensure the footing is below the frost line so that it doesn't heave.
i put mine at 72''
The first sign this was going bad was wearing flip flops during construction.....
McConaughey-style shed building :)
I am planning to build a 8*10 which after seeing your video thinking of going 10*12. The challenge is I have a roughly 30deg slope which is the only ideal spot in my yard. Not sure which part of North you are from but I live north of Twincities and definitely where we are hit with snow and coldest temps most part of the year. Any ideas/suggestions from anyone is welcome.
Building on a slope is a challenge. You could still do piers like mine, but the ones on the slope sticking out of the ground may need to be reinforced with rebar.
They make plates for 4x4s and 6x6s that sit on top of piers
What brackets did you use to cast into the concrete piers? I'm also working on a shed foundation, but I can't find any brackets that are made to be placed in a concrete pier so that lumber can be placed into them horizontally. They are all built for vertical posts. I'd like to run my skids in in the brackets horizontally, as placing my floor on vertical posts connected to concrete piers would bring my floor up too high.
I used 4x4 brackets. You can either shim the bracket for the extra 1/2" or glue a 1/2" plywood strip to your 2x8 or 2x10 lumber to create a 3.5" width. www.menards.com/main/hardware/fasteners-connectors/construction-hardware/column-post-bases-caps/mitek-reg-4-x-4-steel-2-sided-post-anchor/pa44e-dp/p-1444445522951-c-8825.htm
www.menards.com/main/hardware/fasteners-connectors/bolts/anchor-bolts/grip-fast-reg-1-2-x-10-hot-dipped-galvanized-anchor-bolt-w-nut-washer-2-count/1210hgab/hardware/fasteners-connectors/bolts/anchor-bolts/grip-fast-reg-1-2-x-8-hot-dipped-galvanized-anchor-bolt-w-nut-washer-2-count/128hgab/p-1444439570032.htm
@@FixItScotty I appreciate your reply. My main issue is that these brackets are for posts to be placed vertically. Do you know of any brackets that are built to hold lumber in the horizontal position and be cast in concrete?
@@joshuawood6644 I'm not sure. They all seem to be built for upright posts. You could try another type of bracket with higher walls like this? www.lowes.com/pd/Simpson-Strong-Tie-4-in-x-4-in-Triple-Zinc-Wood-to-Concrete-Cast-in-Place-Base/1002708370
Why would you place the boards horizontally? That isn't going to give your foundation any structural integrity.
@@ronlaverdiere I'm not talking about my floor boards/band boards and rim joists.. I'm talking about my skids.
Great video Scotty, wondering where you're located? I'm up in Ontario Canada and also need to dig 42 inches down
Northern Illinois - not far from Wisconsin. Pretty similar climate.
@@FixItScotty thank you, that helps. I think we're pretty similar climate as well. Subscribed 😎👍
This was helpful for my new neighbor's project
I would've put it on skids and told them it was a doghouse. Eff Local Gov that tries to regulate the foundation of a shed
😆😆 I hear ya. Since I knew I was going to need a variance to build a larger garage from the local gov, I didn't want to make waves back when I built this.
This was very helpful ;
Q:
Wouldn’t your life been easier if you used a 4 by 12 wood instead of two two inch slabs?
Yes, but I don't know where to buy 4x12 dimensional lumber near me.
@@FixItScotty thanks scotty
hi how did you determine the pier diameter and spacing? I am looking to build a 12 x 16 shed myself..
For me it was two ways: my local code specified minimum pier size and depth. I believe it was 10 inches and a depth of 42 inches since I live up north and the pier has to be below the frost line. As for placement, I just used the shed framing plans that I bought that suggested 3 piers per side with the double 2x8s spanning them. That would be based on the type of dimensional lumber used in the floor framing and the spans allowed for the load.
@@FixItScotty thanks!
Did you use any rebar in the piers? Maybe I missed it or it was omitted in the edit?
No, I just poured concrete into the empty sonotubes. For this application, I don't think rebar is necessary.
I gotta ask, would the city not allow you to have your inside rimbeam 1 1/2" short so you could nail the rim joist into the end to make a perfect square and not use a hanger, but sitting on the concrete anchor?
That probably would be fine. My city's code for shed foundation is pretty vague; they give a 3 options for foundation types (slab, piers or auger anchors) and a bunch of requirements around where it can be located (easements between structures, property line, etc.) Other than that, they leave it up to you as to how you frame and build it. I used some pretty standard plans and got no notes from the inspector who passed it.
@FixItScotty Nice! I appreciate the reply. I'm looking into building a 1.5 story workshop shed which will he kinda heavy. Don't wanna pay 7K for just a shed foundation 😄
How much that cost ? On lumber and everything
Around $2500 for everything.
How do you level it?
I used a tight string line and a string level to level the concrete tubes before I added the concrete. Then I used a 4 ft level on my floor joists.
I might of missed it in the video, but is there a fee for the inspections?
My city just charges one permit fee for building the shed. They pay for the inspections. I think the permit was like $30 - 40.
@@FixItScotty Thank you for the update.
How much did the material cost
$2500 for the entire build. That may have even included the post hole digger rental.
Newbie here. Why did you not just buy joists- like 16" (or 14" if they have those? The joist on the bottom right of the screen @15:24 is just barely hanging on, if it starts to rot at the end then you're gonna have some issues.
Good question. I should have extended the joists to fit the piers better, but the maximum square footage for a shed that I'm allowed to build in our town is 120 square ft. So I had to keep it at 12' x 10'.
Are those osha approved flip flops ?😂
Absolutely hate leveling it always seem like such a hassle
Can you use a deck foundation to build a shed
If your deck was built with treated 2x10's, 16" on center and is level and on firm footings, that should carry the load of a shed this size.
@@FixItScotty I was going to use 2x4s and cover I with deck boards with a deck block on each board and a row in the middle would that work? It’s going to be a 8x8 shed
@@christophert5296 Even for 8x8, I would probably use 2x6s for the floor joists. 2x4's may work, but my expertise is not carpentry.
@@FixItScotty Ok Thank you!!! 😊
Why are so many inspections needed? Taxation?
No, it's not taxation; the permit fees were probably just enough to pay the 3rd party inspector. It's really about safety. Too many people built make-shift storage structures that would fall over or blow away with high winds. So the city overcompensated by regulation.
Absolutely ridiculous, imo, that 3 inspections are needed for a storage shed.
YES, it’s a 10/12 shed why even call a inspector. STRANGE
Can you list all the material used in the project. I plan to build a shed
I don't have that list easily available. But I bought these framing plans that have a pretty good materials list. www.icreatables.com/sheds/10x12-B-backyard-shed-plans
@@FixItScotty how long are your 2x4's for building the trusses? And thanks for making your videos. Very helpful.
@@eliasdiez9896 I talk about the roof trusses in part 2. I believe they are all 8' 2x4s when I build them and I cut the ends off later after I put the wall sheathing up.
@@FixItScotty thank you brother
Looks good but with the price of lumber might as well just pour a small slab.
At the time I built this, there was a shortage of pressure treated lumber, but the prices hadn't raised yet. I don't know, where I live, the cost of concrete is a lot too.
50-lbs. per ft²?!?!? Weird. A single 1x4 pine board will support well over that.
Let me add though, I'm glad you built a crazy strong base.
Now that you mention, that does seem weird. The text in the city shed requirements was "Concrete piers set to a level 4 o 6 inches above the ground to support a wood floor
designed to support 60 lbs. per square foot." That does seem like a rather low bar.
They are floor joists not rafters.
Levels a sonotube with a torpedo
I am rather resourceful.
😐😐😐
So basically this is a video about what not to do , lol.
Pretty much. I do a bit better on the subsequent parts.
Why aren't the joists on the beams
I'm not sure I understand the question. Are you asking why I used joist hangers to attach the joists?
Can you do this again with a voiceover because all the stopping and explaining is really annoying and takes away from watching the build.
Sorry I can't redo this video. You'll just have to put up with my yammering.
I think I will build my own shed without looking at this video.. poor planning here. You should have drew up a plan first.
See my part 2 video on framing.
Code is ridiculous.
It certainly can be ridiculous. That said, this past weekend I saw a some very expensive wooden playground equipment in the same northern climate as me. It was not that old, but was tilted and jacked all over. Clearly, the installer didn't put the posts into the ground very deep and the result is it is now almost unusable. I am glad knowing that won't happen to my shed.
@@FixItScotty Oh I agree with that. 24"-36" should be enough for most stuff. In PA, it says a variable of at least 24"-48", depending on location, soil, etc. That makes sense to me. I built a chain-linked fence and put all the posts 24" and wet placed the posts with rebar in the middle, then filled the posts with concrete so it's all one piece. Strong.
Wearing a mask outdoors and flip flops 😢
I know, bad. I wasn't protecting my feet - just my lungs from the concrete dust.
You have got to be kidding me. Where did you learn to lay out a project.
I think I made it clear in the video the missteps I had in laying out the footings as a warning to others who are doing the same. This was my first shed build.
@@FixItScotty you should have just fixed it, scotty.
You didn't jump out of the womb knowing how it's done, either. Relax. If he does it again, the man will have learned from the process and do a great job.
@@LogHewer Whenever I didn't know how to do something I didn't make a video about it.
You must have made these mistakes on purpose, just to show how not to make a foundation. I guess a video is better than 1000 words. Do you own a pair of boots?
Other than my pier placement, which I explained the correct way to do it despite my mistakes, what else is incorrect about my foundation?
Not trying to be a Richard but you shouldn’t be doing instructional videos without knowledge. Those posts are embarrassing
Did you watch the video? Did I not mention multiple times what I did wrong and how the viewer could learn from my mistake and do it right? Yes. Despite talking about how I'm doing my build, did I ever put words in my video title like "DIY", "Instructional" or "HowTo" or represent myself as a shed expert? No. Are my "embarrassingly" misplaced piers still holding the shed fine after 4 years? Yes.
Can’t even finish watching this. The video should just be deleted.
I'll get right on that.
NO ROOM TO RUN SEWER LINE IF WANT CONVERT INTO A MINI HOUSE
Do people do that? I would have to get my property re-zoned and it would cost a fortune to get a new municipal sewer hookup. Maybe if I lived out in the country and had my own septic...