Divorce; Why Men Leave, What Women Tell Me
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- In this episode, we have the incredible privilege of hosting Christine Muthoni, a relationship expert known for her profound insights. She unveils some of the raw and honest truths about why men leave marriages and what women confide in her when they're contemplating a divorce.
In this no-holds-barred conversation, Christine generously shares her knowledge, helping us understand the intricate dynamics that can make or break a marriage.
Her insights not only shed light on the reasons behind marital dissolutions but also prompt us to think about the essence of companionship, empathy, and understanding in maintaining a strong relationship.
Join us in this eye-opening discussion and let's unravel these complex issues together. Don't forget to like, comment, share, and subscribe for more thought-provoking content.
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It is normal to go separate ways. Normalize not being an unwanted guest in somebody's space. Lets be mature about every aspect of our lives. Thanks Muthoni!
This is so true. It can be tough to know when to hold on and when to let go. What are some signs you look for to know it's time to move on?
I was married to man who decided not to work and I was the one carrying all the burdens in the house... after suffering alot I walked out of the marriage because we headed no where? We didn't have anything with this man, I had to start my life all over again from scratch...now it is 5 years down in the line,... please advise me how I can file divorce.?????
Westernized mentality...
@@PatrickMaina-u9l I totally disagree with you! If one partner is not happy, it is better to separate! Marriage is not slavery.
@@evangelistgrace5278 marriage is the most important union, but most of you westernised women, break up marriages all because your not happy
Am ever disturbed whenever I see people divorcing, the mere mention of this topic disturbs me
Before I think of divorce as the husband/wife, why can't I think of what is leading to divorce?
If it's infidelity, unfaithfulness, fornication, drunkenness, violence, (emotional, physical) why can't I be humble enough to admit & solve this? It's better I die solving these evils than die of divorce pain.
If am irresponsible, why can't I rectify it, because if I divorce for all the above mentioned, I will automatically transfer these vices evils to my next marriage. In the village where I come from there goes a proverb which says: A long tailed animal does not cross fire.
Let me say this,the evils you fail to solve bite back very painfully. This is sure,not theory.
I thought marriage bed should be honored.
Marriage takes work, and sometimes that means open communication and effort from both partners. That said, divorce isn't always a failure. In some cases, it can be the healthiest option for everyone involved, especially in situations with abuse or addiction. A strong marriage is built on respect, communication, and a willingness to work through problems together.
The two people must be willing. If one is not, then it crumbles.
Because it takes two, you can not work on infidelity or abuse if you are the one receiving them and the one dishing them out is blaming you and playing the victim who isn't willing to talk let alone work on it
Jagero is such a good host because he allows his guest to speak clearly. Kudos! Good job guy.
Thank you 🙏
This Lady is Supper smart love her
Appreciated!
If a spouse is nurturing the children, then the properties should be fairly apportioned.
Secondly, Divorce scenario should be part of preparation for marriage/marriage counseling. #ToughConversation during dating/courtship days...
Pre-nups might not be the most romantic topic, but they can definitely save a lot of heartache down the line. Who knew "fair splits" could be so important? That being said, communication is key in any relationship, so talking finances and future plans before marriage is a total win. Maybe we can do a whole video on prepping for marriage that's not all doom and gloom?
Choosing wisely should be emphasized in dating, rather than getting married with divorce on the backburner or simply remaining unmarried.
LOVE HER PROFESSIONALISM & DOWN TO EARTH REAL HONESTY❤
So glad you enjoyed that! Christine is fantastic, and I really admire her ability to balance being professional and real.
Even if you do not get a better man. You get your freedom back. Feed someone and still get to be ordered around
In good times, when women are low, men may educate them and help them to find a footing; if the man , for any reason, goes down or is struggling, the lady can't stand it. She forgets where she was , and wants to leave. It's all selfishness, really.
You're right, and sometimes that freedom is exactly what we need to rediscover ourselves. Have you experienced this kind of situation?
Its selfishness @@TheJagero
@@TheJagero 😅😅 I see what you did there
@@newtonsimba7930 It's not until death do us part but rather until I get bored or the money runs out!
Quite helpful. I'll always come back for more. Your are doing a good job in opening our eyes to some of these things. A big problem in our society is ignorance or rather inaccessibility to knowledge .I am happy that we have people like you putting in hard work to avail platforms where people can actually learn some of these things. Keep it up!
Women are tired cos , they are doing both jobs. Ie finances + domestic. Plus endurance of adultery. Its a heavy burden
I appreciate the kind words. Making knowledge accessible is important, and it's awesome to have you on board.
The Marriage(Amendment) Bill, 2023 is proposed to usher in a new norm with matters divorce. This bill proposes to bring in Divorce by Mutual Consent. A progressive law that aims to make the process less fault based but more amicable.
Interesting times!
The Bill was shut down by MPS
in short mtatuacha sababu unajisikia hauna raha. smh
Divorce by Mutual Consent - is it about making divorce easier or healthier? What do you think?
But that's a valid reason @@africatodayke
I didn’t know I could just walk into a court and listen to any case. Eish! I’ll try one day.
I didn't know either.
Yes you can! Unless the ones done in chambers
oh really. definitely doing this one day
You actually can in most places! It's called public access. It's a great way to see the justice system in action. But some cases can get pretty intense! Perhaps we can share some tips for finding open court hearings.
Very great conversation + she is really beautiful
Haha, thanks! Glad you enjoyed the conversation, and I have to agree, she was fantastic.
So informative.....and she's not shacky, beautiful.
May God work through her.
Thanks for watching
Wow this is nice. I love how she thinks.😊
Thanks so much! I'm glad you find her thought process interesting.
Very enlightening topic. Am liking everything about Madam muthoni. Am also a single mom of two children. 🎉
Thank you. Glad you can relate.
Very informative... thank you!
Thank you
Biblically men are supposed to be providers and women are homemakers. However the economy has forced women to go out and help men. So if women are providers and coming back to do house work as well...that takes a tall on a woman😢
Did all that as well taking care of extended family
You're right, the world has definitely changed! While the Bible offers guidance, so many women today have amazing careers they're passionate about. It can be tough to balance everything. What are some ways you've seen women manage work and home life effectively?
A wise way is to take 7- 10 yrs to have and raise children...then the wife goes into her career once the last child is in school.
She then still has about 30yrs to enjoy her career, but she has had her children and doesn't need to mix duties at the toughest stage (infancy, toddler age).
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@@nochso6835hawataki hivyo...
This was a beautiful balanced and very informative conversation with many gems.
Thanks for listening! 'Balanced and informative' is exactly what we were going for. Did any of the 'gems' spark any questions you have for the future?
Quite informative....possibly you could have acknowledged her book, given us the title and where to buy it as support for her works too..
Quite informative, this is. Keep it up Jagero.
Thank you so much
Good work Jagero n Christine. Keep it up!
Thank you
The other importance is to have a peace of mind
I really longed for peace .
I really needed peace like yesterday.
Thirst for peace
You're absolutely right! Peace of mind is key.
Hey there, thanks for sharing that. Peace can be hard to find sometimes, but you're definitely not alone in feeling that way. Is there anything specific in the video that resonated with you, or if you'd like, share some things that help you find peace when things feel hectic?
Jesus gives peace.
Surely even stay at home mothers/fathers deserve part of the goods to be divided? They were working at home caring for your children and you...that's a huge unpaid job!
You're preaching to the choir here! Being a stay-at-home parent is WAY harder than any office job. Those tiny humans are relentless!
Do u think the man paid himself first ? He does all the hard work out and paid to himself nothing but provide to his family
@@tekletekle252 we just don't want the man or the woman to be struggling desperately if they split
How can we reach you muthoni
@@TheJagero IT'S NOt harder than any office job lol this is insane,
I love this dialogue. It was very educative. Your guest did a very nice job!
Thanks for watching! Please consider subscribing to the channel. 👍🏾
Hello Jagero,I'm in this situation where I found my wife flirting with a corporate guy on WhatsApp maybe they met on her line of duty,whe I confronted her about it she put password on her WhatsApp,am contemplating divorce, she's so rude with her response whenever I ask her anything I'm not happy with.we actually had a church wedding but am not really happy in this marriage,but the good thing we've been married for four years but we don't have child that can complicate the whole thing.
@@_Ramosibadanihey man, can I talk to you?
@@_Ramosibadani siri #1 ya ndoa. never look at your partner's phone. 4 years is soo little to want out. get yourself busy, find a hobby to occupy you from wanting to get into your wife's phone. also, achana na kibe's content.
Once the family unit is destroyed, then the soul of the nation will be void, broken families creates insecurity and instability in a nation.
What do you think makes a strong family unit? Is it just the traditional family structure, or can different family dynamics also be successful?
Having a lawyer to handle a case is the best!
Having a lawyer is great, but knowing your rights beforehand is pretty awesome too! What legal knowledge do you think everyone should have during divorce process?
@@TheJagero This was a very insightful conversation you had with wakili. Now as a lawyer too, I feel like even non lawyers need to atleast familiarize themselves with the basic information about this topic, divorce. Well I am not wishing anyone divorce because it's a painful thing obviously. But in the event it happens, atleast one should have a bit of knowledge on:
1. A child's Right(s). As a mindful, loving and caring parent it's important to appreciate the rule of thumb 'The best interest of the child' which simply means that the interest of the child has to take precedence whenever a decision is to be made that may directly or indirectly affect the child. Obviously this will be key where a child/children are involved;
2. The Law on distribution of property upon dissolution of a marital union. Again, before a lawyer discusses this with you it's important you research and know what the law surrounding division of matrimonial property upon divorce says. The law has been made available to everyone especially with the Kenyalaw.org
It has all the laws and already decided cases that may help one understand where they stand even before moving the court to adjudicate and dissolve their marriage; and
3. The grounds of divorce which wakili has elaborated so well.
What about if I don’t have money to hire a lawyer in a divorce case?
We will talk with her about it.
Represent yourself
She said you consult a lawyer for one hour and you file the divorce
Very informative and insightful. I'm through with divorce, now in the process of Matrimonial property division
I'm glad the video was helpful. Divorce can be a tough time, and navigating property division can feel overwhelming. If you have any questions that come up while you're going through the process, feel free to leave a comment and I'll do my best to point you in the right direction.
Stay in your marriage
You go and stay in it @@PatrickMaina-u9l
Thanks for the information
You’re welcome
How do I buy the book
I don't know how full blown adults think life must be happiness all the time. Life is not a smooth road and if as an individual you can't be happy by yourself, no one else can make you happy. The fact that she tries to help resolve issues is commendable.
Thank you. Personal growth and resilience are key, but I believe support and connection can also play a significant role in overcoming difficulties.
Great lawyer.
She is!
A beautiful delivery. More love to you from Ghana
Thanks for listening
Divorce is fine with me but the Question is if ur the problem in marriage n u end up divorcing don’t go to another relationship until u accept Wewe ndiye ulikuwa na shida heal b4 u go have another marriage then uiangushe tena??Muthoni ur beutiful from outside looks n I hope yr heart is as so🤣👌.Nice show from the host👏
I appreciate your concern about finding the right partner after divorce
Marriage is the best thing someone can do but behind staying in it CARRY the Spiritual part of it, life is spiritual but wickedness is real. The Power to stay in marriage is a Spiritual through family background conflict that follows us through our Parent..
That's a great perspective! I totally agree that life has a spiritual dimension. In my experience, open communication and forgiveness are also key to a strong marriage. What are your thoughts?
Well put my dia...its so sad
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
very interesting conversation. thank you for a well balanced
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@TheJagero timely
Even in the US, the person who goes to seek a lawyer pays for themselves. You don't pay for the lawyer of your spouse. Same as in Kenya
You're absolutely right, in most cases, whoever seeks legal counsel pays their own fees. That said, there are some exceptions in the US, like in some family law cases where attorney fees might be awarded to the winning party. But yeah, definitely not a free pass to bill your spouse for lawyer drama!
What does the USA have to do with us...
😂😂😂u sound tired of them
This conversation is an eye opener. How do I get this book
Simply reach out to the Writer. Her details will be online.
Isn't it?? This book totally changed my perspective too. For fellow bookworms out there, you can find the book at most bookstores like Nuria and online.
How can i contact her for services?
Please contact her here: www.coach-christinemuthoni.com
This is a very interesting topic.
We are glad you enjoyed the episode
1st of all before I marry, why can't I understand marriage is eternal, compared to relationship between Christ & church: Ephesians 5:23-32
Before I think of divorce, why can't I admit, own up, accept corrections we reconcile if failure to that will lead to divorce.
Why can't we drop our ego,pride& diplomatically maturely solve these conflict that lead to divorce. (Men may suffer from this more, fellow men, kindly let's check this, am a man& I know what I mean)
Will the children face this inequality because of our inability to solve?
Consequences of divorce are painful. Do all what you can to prevent divorce.
Prevention is better than cure
Thanks for your thoughtful comment.
Marriage is definitely a big commitment, and looking to the Bible for guidance is a great approach. Ephesians 5:23-32. The Bible emphasizes patience, forgiveness, and working through conflict. Marriage takes work, and there will be challenges.
Ego and pride can be huge roadblocks in any relationship. Open communication and a willingness to see things from your partner's perspective are key.
Children are deeply affected by divorce. It's so important to try everything possible to create a stable and loving home for them.
There are so many resources available for couples to learn communication skills and strengthen their relationship.
divorce is scary as fuck but definitely a solution sometimes. Knowing how to avoid the bitterness and pain that accompany it is good. Thanks for this talk!
You're right, divorce can be incredibly difficult, but sometimes it's the healthiest decision for everyone involved. I'm glad this talk resonated with you
Dont let relationship failure bind you in bitterness and unforgiveness, find Jesus Christ find peace, love and forgiveness.
how is fuck scary😀
Very informative
Thank you.
Traditionally men are providers. It gives them pride, at least for most, when they can take care of their family. This was misrepresented by just saying 'that the woman was tired of providing'
That's an interesting point. Traditionally, men have been the providers, and for many, it can be a source of pride to take care of their family. But times are changing, and families come in all shapes and sizes these days. In the video, we were focusing on the overall feeling of being burnt out, regardless of gender.
@@TheJagero Times are changing but the foundation on which the institution of marriage was built has not changed. The world has just redefined it, hence the challenges marriages are facing. You cannot win against nature. Check the marriages that are actually failing...
Brilliant Brilliant Brilliant 👏
Thak you
Please how do contact this woman? She is such an intelligent and very knowledgeable lady. I just love how she explained this. Thanks Christine.
Reach out to Christine on her personal website: www.coach-christinemuthoni.com
@@TheJagero thank you so much
Jagero it’s not true that in America the men pay for the cost of divorce, there are financial considerations.
Divorce costs are divided fairly in the US, considering each spouse's financial situation. It's not always just about who pays whom. Thanks for pointing that out!
Hi Jagero, I bought your book but the link that was sent to me is not working. Is there another way of getting the book?I do not want to loose my money. Thanks
Hey! Please contact me on 0721168693 on whatsapp
Hey Elvin, I am sorry about the inconvenience caused. Let me follow up with Hustlesasa and get back to you.
Christine just say there are general lawyers like doctors and specialist on specific cases just like different diseases
That’s right. For everyday legal needs, a general Advocate is great. But for complex situations, a specialist with deep knowledge is your best bet! #LawyerLife #LegalAdvice #DialoguesWithJagero
Can couples divorce but still run their businesses together?
Whether a couple can divorce and still run a business together depends on several factors. It's certainly possible, but it often requires clear communication, a strong business structure, and sometimes, professional mediation.
Are courts considering only minor children, disabled children or even adult ones.
Courts are primarily concerned with the well-being of minor children.
For minor children, the court will decide custody and visitation arrangements based on the "best interests of the child" standard.
For disabled children, even if they are adults (depending on the severity of the disability), the court might consider similar factors to ensure their continued care.
Adult children, however, generally are not part of the custody or visitation decisions. The court might be involved in financial matters related to adult children with disabilities, but this would depend on the specific applicable laws.
It's always best to consult with a family lawyer in your jurisdiction for specific legal advice.
Ladies of this generation, makes me feel soo sorry for men
Do you feel sorry for the ladies of the previous generation because in most instances, they didn't have a voice?
So for now men should keep on suffering?
We watched our mums and grandmothers suffer. They persevered coz they had nowhere to go. Some died along the way.
We cannot continue to condone bad behaviour in men the way they did. They crawled so we could walk.
@@bonnycosta6517 How are men suffering?
Ladies of this generation are rocking it! Maybe men just need some new approaches? What are your thoughts on how dating could be better for everyone?
Can you tell ne how to reach her?
Here: www.coach-christinemuthoni.com
BEAUTIFUL SOUL
Thank you
So this lawyer couches people to divorce?
To reconcile
Haha, not exactly! Lawyers specialize in family law can represent clients going through divorce, but their main goal is to ensure a fair and smooth process, whether it's divorce or reconciliation.
Lawyers handle what is brought to their table; they do not go looking for cases.
Mr Oduor let me educate you on Luo language. The word juok means god, the plural juogi means gods. So your godly name is nyingi mar juok. jajuok is one who is a witch.kindly have God in the original Luo cultural practices before Christianity. The Knowledge of God exist in the Luo mind or African mind before talking of the God of Israel.
Thanks for reaching out and for sharing your knowledge about the Luo language! I appreciate you clarifying.
Ask her can one do law at 40yrs please
There's absolutely no age limit to pursue a law degree - you can definitely go for it at 40! Just like doctors, lawyers can specialize in different areas too.
#LawSchool #NeverTooLate #Education #Law
quite informatve
Thank you.
Robust conversion here
Thank you
Nice to know the Host is a Luo
Thanks Okot
Some marriages will kill you if you don't get out
You're right, some relationships can be very damaging.
Oduor women then were oppressed had nowhere to go were shunned by society and church and family. TODAY its easier not for all women but at least for many who work and can feed themselves and take them to school, n probably buy land. Also the society is less judgemental
Divorce was never accepted but is getting easier. Women like wangari maathai, waiguru, marha, ev Teresia have shown women you can walk and be successful and thrive
There's definitely been progress for women in terms of opportunities and societal acceptance. It's amazing to see more women being financially independent and having a voice. However, there's still a way to go when it comes to equal pay, representation in certain fields, and dismantling some remaining stereotypes. What are your thoughts on how we can continue to push for gender equality?
@@Kakwasiyou seem very westernised...go ahead and leave your man....but dont expect the very men you bash to be your protectors...a few shillings isnt everything
@@TheJageroit's still hard in many communities to be divorced. Even your family members shun you. Yet you are not even asking them for anything. It's s long long way. Marriages should be for keeps but sometimes inakataa
so if it's an angry woman who want's to get back to her man you help but if it's a man that's where you draw the line.jagero get us someone neutral💁♂
This video was more about the strategies themselves, which can be applied by anyone regardless of gender. If you have a specific situation in mind, feel free to leave a comment and I'll try my best to create an episode with that in mind.
I am over 30, but I hate marriage like hell!! Sitaki blood pressure
That’s heavy. But I hear you.
Do u think the man paid himself first ? He does all the hard work out and paid to himself nothing but provide to his family
He could have been prioritizing his family's needs while still saving for the future?
A woman should get tired of taking of a man. This man will not cook, or wash clothes, or clean the house.
And if he cooks, washes clothes and cleans the house, but has less money than you? Can you stay?
@newtonsimba7930 Yes , I can stay if he is loving & caring & not a cheating.
@@sarahsmrdal7094 huyo ni simp unataka, umkalie chapo
You make a great point. An equal partnership is key! Maybe there's a way the man in this situation can find a chore he enjoys, or they can split things differently. Open communication is everything!
If we husband and wife are bringing in money equally then by all means they should do the dishes equally.. There is a big distinction between what the individual earns and what they bring into the family...... because we all know his money is their money and her money is her money.
😂 come we stay any time 😂
😂😂😂😂
Haha! Next video, we're [doing something related to cme we stay and the marriage landscape.
Beautiful and with brain
Thank you
Why men leave, what women say… shouldn’t it be what men say?
Let me listen …but it sounds like something the men should be explaining.
I’d like to hear, why women leave (& what they say about that).
Great point! While this video focuses on women's experiences, it's definitely a two-way street. Men's perspectives are equally valuable. I'd love to create content exploring both sides of the story in the future.
That would be a call to celebrate if you are married to a naccisist " I am free at last, I am liberated"
Haha, well, maybe not a party just yet! But definitely a cause for a day of self-care and celebrating your freedom.
Don't get married !
Marriage is beautiful. Dont get married now, you not ready.
Yes I agree with you
Get married but don't entertain a wrong spouse
Don’t get married in America
Marriage is a beautiful thing, Divorce is horror!!!
Logically speaking, a failed paternity test is watertight proof of infidelity. Is it enough legally?
A failed paternity test strongly suggests infidelity, but legally, it might not be the whole picture.