I loved DEFCON 23, not been back since then. Completely lost interest with mask hysteria, and my trust isn't fully recovered. I remember the tamper evident village with the USB serial interface that needed to be run at 42 baud... Good times.
@@BudgetBin We usually dump the badge to look for secrets but this year there was no badge challenge. Likely people still did this though so check around defcon groups on the discord!
@@V1RU5Zuk I say it's a reverse of when Linus insists on talking about news while Luke just does work on his laptop cause he doesn't give a shit about WAN
linus and luke usually are vibing, but sometimes they encounter one of these topics that one of them loves and the other is really not that interested in and ends up being the other guy saying "....yeah" over and over
i wfh and usually listen to wan show while im working and im not even a dev of any kind. I understand wanting to make sure luke knew he was paying attention but it was kind of annoying to listen to in a 1 on 1 convo it's very much appreciated but that was not the case here at all
There is nothing more shitty than being excited about something and the person youre talking to is doing everything but paying attention to what youre saying.
I've always appreciated Luke. But getting into the culture and respecting it so well really elevates you. This shout out / pointer to the good hacker scene is cool but also very important.
not sure why everyone is saying linus is unintrestsed. he is monitoring the stream and listening to the story. this isnt really in his wheel house , he doesnt have much to add hes just listening.
Diviant Ollam did a video about those badges. They were working on them right up to the last minute and even had to offer a patch that could be downloaded after the fact.
@5:48 ... *the* moment Linus zones out... body language... .crossed arms.. checking phone... lots of "cool".. "yeah"... and towards the end focuses on the "badge"... because thats what he understands... the "branding"... you are amazing Linus... we all love you... but mate.. you didn't have to make it so obvious how uninterested you were! lol
I would love to go to Defcon. It's so cool.... as a computer nerd since before the internet period... but spoiler, bring a burner phone, a BASIC install laptop with NOTHING AT ALL important on it- and NEVER connect to public wifi at the con. ;) And you basically had a PURE Defcon experience- everyone I've talked to that has been there describes it like you do. Love that you had that experience!
Man, I was right next to the Goldbug challenge the whole time, sitting at the Red Team Village CTF. One of my buddies was one of the creators of Goldbug, too.
15:09 There's also a setting in Android where even with the WiFi turned off it will occasionally scan for available WiFi networks and may re-enable itself, so make sure you dive into your network settings and double check all those settings to make sure your WiFi "stays" off when you turn it off.
DefCon is on my go list. Seriously gonna go with not a lick of tech on my body beyond a disposable camera to see and experience it. I love listening to the outlandish talks but then the talks about things like elevators (Find it on YT and watch that one) It's gotta be the most chaotic good kind of event of all time.
This is like when I try to explain something new I just discovered and got super hyped for, to my friends who have never heard of it before, and aren't interested until they SEE it themselves, and can more accurately process the information... lmao..
To be fair for linus not even ten seconds into the video they both realized that luke is running out of time and wanted to tell a story not discuss a topic like they usually do so Linus can't really add to the conversation, maybe he could've asked some questions but him respecting the audience and Luke's time not making him remember details about the story is the best course of action he could've take
i havent watched the podcast or clips that often and i'm not going to lie this really pisses me off seeing this. It's extremely rude and unprofessional.
So basically Luke encountered a real life gifted class work sheet in the wild. Advanced Math Team puzzle quest. Only with numerics difficulty set to LOW and realworld variables on MAX. Super jelly.
DEFCON was so fun and I’m so happy Luke convinced me to join If you are interested in the puzzles Luke talked about, I have a long breakdown of the one that drove me insane on my channel.
Last year, defcon was going on while my friends competing in a pool tournament. We walked there by accident and I was freaking out when we walked past the building thinking we were ALL gonna get got some kind of way and just turned my phone off. Nothing came of it but not fun thoughts while you're just out and about trying to explore a new place.
The rare and elusive pineapple. Many people don't realize the dangers of such a benign sounding object. It would be interesting to see the sophistication of pineapples at Defcon.
Having been a few times it's wonderful Luke had such a good experience while it's also pretty funny how much awesome stuff at defcon isn't mentioned here. Hacker jeopardy is hilarious and chaotic every year for example.
The drama was that someone left and easter egg, which was literally just the hardware manufacturer's name (or something), which I guess was intentionally removed from the hardware itself? IDK
several years ago, probably the first year that defcon had a reprogrammable badge, i read an article about how the guy made the badge for that year. ever since ANYONE GOING TO DEFCON FIRST TIME MUST PREORDER it's a rite passage AFTER-ALL, you're spending how much to go? over $1,000 travel/hotel etc. SPLURGE the extra pittance for a unique memorial ....
I found the "how did you meet people?" question hilarious. Luke is one of the most famous technology creators on the planet at one of the nerdiest technology conventions on the planet. I'd be shocked if more than 90% of people at that event didn't know who he was immediately.
This is what people don't understand about hacking. Changing your network's SSID to that of a commonly used public one is such an elegant yet non-sophisticated way of gaining entry. You don't even need to be particularly knowledgable, just creative to come up with that. Also, on the topic of different people making different things of the event, my main activity would definetly be trolling people in non-harmful ways, trying to get as many people on possible on the board of shame.
Been wanting to go to defcon for a while after seeing some of DeviantOllam videos from there and just finding the concept of pentesting really interesting
Luke pouring his heart out about achieving his childhood dream and Linus barely listening in the most disinterested borderline rude way is such a showcase of the difference in these two people. For those that don't know DEFCON, it is the world biggest hacker conference. Luke was part of one of the greatest teams and (though it may have been small) thanks to his contributions, his team went on to win a black badge which is the hacker equivalent of gold at the Olympics. Seriously well done Luke!
Digging this Luke segment. Linus is letting him live and I dig that too, he’s got kids and Luke has hobbies and Linus just lets him have his time. He knows Luke likes this but knows he’s trying to wan, but this is wan show ❤
YO! it was fun hanging out with you Luke. (i was the mysterious 'ed' hehe)
its ok, we all refer to you as ed now. no going back
love TH-cam crossover
I’m the less mysterious “Theo”
I loved DEFCON 23, not been back since then. Completely lost interest with mask hysteria, and my trust isn't fully recovered.
I remember the tamper evident village with the USB serial interface that needed to be run at 42 baud... Good times.
It was a blast hanging with you.
Can't wait to do it again next year. ♥
I am curious to know, but did anyone try hacking the badges at Def Con?
@@BudgetBin We usually dump the badge to look for secrets but this year there was no badge challenge.
Likely people still did this though so check around defcon groups on the discord!
@@BudgetBin The better question is "did anyone *not* try hacking the badges at DefCon?"
@@PirateSoftware I'll def' continue looking for people over in the discord!
Thanks for speaking against game preservation. Very cool. Much wow.
Linus is like a dad listening to his son's excited story about summer camp
Haha he looks so uninterested, and barely trying to hide it
@@V1RU5Zuk I say it's a reverse of when Linus insists on talking about news while Luke just does work on his laptop cause he doesn't give a shit about WAN
I feel like he's also like a boss thinking "I can't believe I paid my employee to abandon the event and go play games"
very clear shift of the previous tech interested drive that created it all and the now very profit focused drive.
@@monk8301 can you expand a bit? Not sure I understand what you mean.
linus and luke usually are vibing, but sometimes they encounter one of these topics that one of them loves and the other is really not that interested in and ends up being the other guy saying "....yeah" over and over
Let's be honest here it's pretty rare for Luke to not care
@@alexdavis9324
Luke does have great _supportive bro_ energy most of the time
Was this before or after Linus fell victim to a phishing
Yeah...ok...no way!
Linus is 110% not listening.
This is like me when I telling my family about a really cool dev thing or anything related and they just go "hmm" "yeah" "cool".
This is like me when I’m talking to my family.
i wfh and usually listen to wan show while im working and im not even a dev of any kind. I understand wanting to make sure luke knew he was paying attention but it was kind of annoying to listen to
in a 1 on 1 convo it's very much appreciated but that was not the case here at all
And then they ask you why you don't talk to them or tell them things?
spot on...
Yeah and it is totally soul crushing to have it happen to you.
Like why can't family and friends be excited for something for you for once??
Man linus just was not enthused
"Heard it before Brah"
Linus couldn’t be less interested. 😂
8:41 Luke is just so stoked about everything and Linus just seems so un-enthused, lol.
Was thinking the same. He even yawned
Defcon's basically using Texan security: nobody messes with anybody if EVERYBODY is armed.
At least nobody will die
That badge is feature creep in physical form.
But it's for hackers, and you can tinker with it. What more does one need :)
advertising money
9:13 - I feel like Linus' face at this moment kinda sums up how he feels about this entire story xD
Their badges have been very intricate for a long time as they are a large source of pride for attendees.
And they're encouraged to hack them and share whatever weird shit they've managed to do with them. Like there's always someone to run doom.
Linus trying so hard to say every adjective he could think of
There is nothing more shitty than being excited about something and the person youre talking to is doing everything but paying attention to what youre saying.
Linus was bored the cool thing Luke was expressing about the event and the challenge, Look his face
These types of segments from Luke are what I watch wan show for. Red teaming ai and this have been two of the best segments they have done.
Linus lack of interest is in the same level of when James May explains something and Jeremy Clarkson just dozes off.. 😂
The new Dacia Sandero!
......right!.....okay...... anyway, so when Stig took the new Porche for a lap [...]
Clarkson and May perfectly encapsulates Linus and Luke's personalities 😂
I've always appreciated Luke.
But getting into the culture and respecting it so well really elevates you.
This shout out / pointer to the good hacker scene is cool but also very important.
Poor Luke missed all the swag and panels... I guess he will just have to go again next year
The trick to defcon is to skip the panels. They'll be on youtube or defcon ftp later.
Go do CTF/lab stuff. Or talk to people.
not sure why everyone is saying linus is unintrestsed. he is monitoring the stream and listening to the story. this isnt really in his wheel house , he doesnt have much to add hes just listening.
It probably boils down to people not being used to seeing / hearing Linus be a bit more quiet
This seems like the dream come true experience for Luke at Def Con.
Sounds like my wife when I start talking about tech stuff lmao
Luke sitting there with a Chrome Zero Day update going completely ignored.
I belive luke uses firefox (mainly)
LTT and Piratesoft is the combo I didn’t know I needed
I was glad that I got to meet you, Luke! Hope to see you next year!
Diviant Ollam did a video about those badges. They were working on them right up to the last minute and even had to offer a patch that could be downloaded after the fact.
super enthusiastic linus
Luke was looking like a pure pot of honey with that unsecure phone haha!
Sound like an awesome time to be honest
@5:48 ... *the* moment Linus zones out... body language... .crossed arms.. checking phone... lots of "cool".. "yeah"... and towards the end focuses on the "badge"... because thats what he understands... the "branding"... you are amazing Linus... we all love you... but mate.. you didn't have to make it so obvious how uninterested you were! lol
I would love to go to Defcon. It's so cool.... as a computer nerd since before the internet period... but spoiler, bring a burner phone, a BASIC install laptop with NOTHING AT ALL important on it- and NEVER connect to public wifi at the con. ;)
And you basically had a PURE Defcon experience- everyone I've talked to that has been there describes it like you do. Love that you had that experience!
I would be way less scared of bringing my phone and other devices TO defcon than I would be to bring anything BACK FROM defcon.
Man, I was right next to the Goldbug challenge the whole time, sitting at the Red Team Village CTF. One of my buddies was one of the creators of Goldbug, too.
15:09 There's also a setting in Android where even with the WiFi turned off it will occasionally scan for available WiFi networks and may re-enable itself, so make sure you dive into your network settings and double check all those settings to make sure your WiFi "stays" off when you turn it off.
DefCon is on my go list. Seriously gonna go with not a lick of tech on my body beyond a disposable camera to see and experience it. I love listening to the outlandish talks but then the talks about things like elevators (Find it on YT and watch that one) It's gotta be the most chaotic good kind of event of all time.
This is like when I try to explain something new I just discovered and got super hyped for, to my friends who have never heard of it before, and aren't interested until they SEE it themselves, and can more accurately process the information... lmao..
To be fair for linus not even ten seconds into the video they both realized that luke is running out of time and wanted to tell a story not discuss a topic like they usually do so Linus can't really add to the conversation, maybe he could've asked some questions but him respecting the audience and Luke's time not making him remember details about the story is the best course of action he could've take
Linus is always bored with Luke’s topics. Its why I dont watch the podcast any more. Even tho Luke’s topics are more interesting
Hard agree
i havent watched the podcast or clips that often and i'm not going to lie this really pisses me off seeing this. It's extremely rude and unprofessional.
"So we used an old unpatched Android 12"
me with my Android 9: 😬
I legit want to see Thor and Luke discuss cybersecurity. And Linus I suppose.
From what luke described it as, defcon has changed drastically from the early days.
5 out of the 6 comments i saw are bots, this is really sad. TH-cam please fix this already
Is that something a bot would say?
YT doesn't give an eff about it's viewers 😂
That's actually the first time I see this type of bots on YT😅
TH-cam is a greedy pile of shit that has never card about anything but money.
youtube is always playing whack-a-mole with bots.
They'll eventually get a handle on one bot swarm, then a while later a different one will invade...
So basically Luke encountered a real life gifted class work sheet in the wild. Advanced Math Team puzzle quest. Only with numerics difficulty set to LOW and realworld variables on MAX. Super jelly.
DEFCON was so fun and I’m so happy Luke convinced me to join
If you are interested in the puzzles Luke talked about, I have a long breakdown of the one that drove me insane on my channel.
Shilling on a ltt vid? Come in Theo 😅
Reaching out publicly to disagree with your stopkillinggames bad actor efforts and agreeance with Thor. #stopkillinggames
Last year, defcon was going on while my friends competing in a pool tournament. We walked there by accident and I was freaking out when we walked past the building thinking we were ALL gonna get got some kind of way and just turned my phone off. Nothing came of it but not fun thoughts while you're just out and about trying to explore a new place.
This badge was the best one since several years from what i heard from other attendees, and they only have a digital badge every 2nd year.
I expected them to talk about the Badge drama in detail
Not dissing on Linus, but you can tell he wasn't interested in most of the details until the badge came out lol He really loves his hardware
The rare and elusive pineapple. Many people don't realize the dangers of such a benign sounding object. It would be interesting to see the sophistication of pineapples at Defcon.
Having been a few times it's wonderful Luke had such a good experience while it's also pretty funny how much awesome stuff at defcon isn't mentioned here. Hacker jeopardy is hilarious and chaotic every year for example.
Dang. Everyone went to Defcon this year. Hope you go next year! Hope to get to compete in a CTF sometime!
I really love defcon stories cus they are always great.
Don't think I ever heard Linus say "yeah, okay" , "yup" this often 😅
Definitely going to the next one. This sounds awesome
The drama was that someone left and easter egg, which was literally just the hardware manufacturer's name (or something), which I guess was intentionally removed from the hardware itself? IDK
several years ago, probably the first year that defcon had a reprogrammable badge, i read an article about how the guy made the badge for that year. ever since ANYONE GOING TO DEFCON FIRST TIME MUST PREORDER it's a rite passage AFTER-ALL, you're spending how much to go? over $1,000 travel/hotel etc.
SPLURGE the extra pittance for a unique memorial ....
This is me at DEF CON. Spent a day exploring...then day 2 I got roped into DARKNET and didn't stop until the last minute before the challenge ended.
I'm with Linus on this one, Luke sounds like he is describing the most fun math class he's ever had. I am not this caliber of nerd.
11:20 Writing on Luke's arm lol. Was this mentioned in the full WAN show?
Linus almost fell asleep 😂😂😂
Men, i love hearing luke talk so passionately about it ❤
I found the "how did you meet people?" question hilarious. Luke is one of the most famous technology creators on the planet at one of the nerdiest technology conventions on the planet. I'd be shocked if more than 90% of people at that event didn't know who he was immediately.
Staying in the Hotel Room playing a game on a computer is Defcon appropriate.
Luke, You are such a nerd, and it makes me so happy!
This is what people don't understand about hacking. Changing your network's SSID to that of a commonly used public one is such an elegant yet non-sophisticated way of gaining entry. You don't even need to be particularly knowledgable, just creative to come up with that. Also, on the topic of different people making different things of the event, my main activity would definetly be trolling people in non-harmful ways, trying to get as many people on possible on the board of shame.
The thumbnail is GOLD 😂
Please send people to defcon on a yearly basis!
To beat the gold bug challenge you have to predict where the knight will go and "take it in passing (en passant)"
Having that as a badge is really awesome.
Been wanting to go to defcon for a while after seeing some of DeviantOllam videos from there and just finding the concept of pentesting really interesting
Pretty awesome Luke went, the one year I don’t go. I’ll be back next year!!
Luke pouring his heart out about achieving his childhood dream and Linus barely listening in the most disinterested borderline rude way is such a showcase of the difference in these two people. For those that don't know DEFCON, it is the world biggest hacker conference. Luke was part of one of the greatest teams and (though it may have been small) thanks to his contributions, his team went on to win a black badge which is the hacker equivalent of gold at the Olympics. Seriously well done Luke!
Digging this Luke segment. Linus is letting him live and I dig that too, he’s got kids and Luke has hobbies and Linus just lets him have his time. He knows Luke likes this but knows he’s trying to wan, but this is wan show ❤
linus is so thrilled
I remember seeing the picture and thinking "That looks like Luke from LTT, but nah, it can't be." Welp, jokes on me.
How unappealing. So much enthusiasm met with so little interaction. Love ya Luke and congrats on your first DefCon experience. May you have many more!
Only an idiot would go to defcon and do something actually bad: There's feds attending in the audience.
its a shitshow...only comp enthusiasts go there to hype actual hackers is the one absent thing
Long time since I’ve watched any LTT context, I was pleased with Linus’s lack of input lol
If you spent most of defcon in a hotel room, you've done in correctly. Keep in mind they only do fancy electronic badges every other year.
This was an interesting thumbnail for anyone in the Netherlands because there's a hardstyle festival by that name😂
I’m no hacker but I’m a decent Demoman and a stand up engineer, I’m assuming there won’t be a TF2 thing next year but if there is I’m in
Looks like Luke got a working badge. Nice.
Sounds like Luke is a Puzzle Hunt guy now!
Fishing bacwards is called an Honeypot
all this sounds so cool, maybe someday I'll go there, too…
I heard at least 1 person put Doom on their badge and could play it like normal
I feel like Luke doesn't realise that linus is just not interested, because how exited he is... fells bad bro
I always like Luke from LTT, and now I have opportunity to like luke from software engineer youtuber gang..
2:35 This is the meaning of the 🙏🏼 emoji!
Wanna help me correct the entire internet?
Thanks!
Sad that Linus thinks everyone wants to listen to him whinge about paint but can’t even pretend to show interest about Luke’s sick defcon stories
As a non viewer of the channel, I really found this story interesting, but Linus not being into it at all was lowkey kinda frustrating
Wow im definitely saving up and going next time.
0:01 I'm a bot
I want to hear more about Ed.
prob went the dont hack within punchingdistance of the target
linus looked so not interested. Oops on the typo
I thought this was gonna be about Luke in like defcon 5 moments or whatever when shit was hitting the fan
I head the badge could also be used as a hacking tool too
Vodka + Redbull = Hack all the things
I always wanted to go to defcon, just never had the balls to travel for it.
The badge can run Doom but can it run Crysis?