E-Bike Bafang BbsHD + 72v Flipsky/Vesc 6000w+ -- Night ride in the forest
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Bafang BbsHD
72v 20ah 50BMS battery
Flipsky 75100 PRO v2.0
Power : on THROTTLE 6136w peak - 4000w continuous
: on PAS 3000w+ peak power
Stock Nylon gear
Top speed on this run : 72km/h
1:1 gear ratio 42t front chain ring - 42t rear cog
Mullet wheels : 29”x2.30 front - 27.5”x2.60 rear
38 degrees on the motor after this short run
Sorry about the video quality, but unfortunately I did not have a powerful front light to brighten it up 🫣
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get a light and a some mirrors buddy, one wrong thing and youll depart this realm.
@@georgescg7342 it has a bright light which wasn’t on the bike at that specific time, and it has a mirror which is very slick and maybe you couldn’t see it 🙂
Good shit, looks like a nice bike to convert. Have fun ride safe ;)
Thank you 😁
I think it’s only matter of time before I go 72volt a bafang 😲 it sounds epic .. not even annoying when slow so I could handle the whine 🤣
It’s way too mean on 72v, and set up like this 😅
But…it’s worth it 🫶
I love the turbo jet sound at high Rpms, it keeps me plugged in 😅
The PAS gets the peak power around 3000w+ 🫶 I run the Nylon stock gear greased up , without problems 👌
I have also a steel gear, but….it’s no point to change it, as I opened up the motor and everything is like new…. Plus it’s enough noise the turbo sound produces …🥹
@@alex.copilu yeah it sounds like a jet haha ! I thanks for the reply it sounds Crazy man I have a 52v battery already so I might just buy a bbshd at the end of the month for my trek fuel .. kinda worried about the bottom bracket position.. if you get time to check out a trek fuel ex8 2018 on google or something have a look at the bottom bracket shape and does it look like it would be ok for bbshd ? I feel like the shape of the bike might be wrong for this 🤣 if so I’m going to buy another full suspension bike first
Fast but will not last, something will shurely fail somewhere... flipsky is prone to crash suddenly and cost a new module ... Nice flight... until a sudden crash !!
Flipsky is like Windows.... Death blue screen is watching you !
@@lewebvirtuel9503 I assure you that it’s fast and it has lasted for a long time 🫡
I am using the motor on FOC controllers for 2 years and last month when I opened the motor to grease it up again, and to inspect the nylon gear ( in order to put a steel one) I found out that the motor looked like new inside , plus the noise when the chain is not on is way too smooth 😊
Maybe other models , but the model I use looks like people are very happy with them ( including me )
I changed one controller because I opened up the pcb board and I did some silly engineering things ( but that is just because of me, not because the controller is bad 👍🏻 )
I had many crashes, but not because of speed, just because of trying to do tricks at 10-20km/h….and I do not plan to have other ones anymore I hope😅
Idnk your experience with this motor and controllers, I don’t want to say something wrong, but I am sure you haven’t dealt too much with it/them ( the motor is a heavy duty which can be stretched up to 6-7kw on peak powers , and 3-4kw on continuous until the battery drains, or the motor gets hot and the controller cuts some power )🙏
The motor it’s greased up with high quality grease, temperature sensor installed inside the motor, heat sinks installed on the motor, controller tuning….( I would say : proper work )😁
Iiiiiiii know people would be heavenly happy to see it broken, but unfortunately it won’t happen ( I have tried to brake it since I did the conversion, but….I haven’t succeeded yet 😅 )🤗
Thanks for your input and…ride safe too 😊
@@alex.copilu yea go get a fardriver :) way better :)
The fardrive it’s too bulky, no field weakening at the same price, and I don’t know since when fardrive is better than the vesc platform ( but each of us with their preferences )👍🏻
I have watched an youtube review comparing fardrive vs flipsky, and people were towards Flipsky ( vesc platform) 🫶
On this motor fardrive doesn’t support PAS assistance 👎🏻
A BIG NO for Fardrive from my side 😅
You know what it seems like you need, more power baby! Flipsky 75200 for those juicy 200 phase amps and a nice 22S battery. Are you running MTPA?
Wouldn’t be a problem to get the 75200 pro v2.0, but for that I need also another battery which is quite pricey for the budget for the moment….
It’s a 50bms battery….and without heating up too much, would be around 70-80bms, and 8000w with 5000w continuous…. This is what I think…
I might get one day that battery, but…still happy with what I can squeeze from this setup 🫶
If I shift one gear, 36T, it goes around 80km/h , and it’s enough…🫣😅 As you see in the video when I start I went hard, and at the end of that little run, I stopped throttling it, as it had 72km/h and it was ….enough 😅 The bike lifts up from 40km/h when I throttle it hard, and has around 25-27kg🫣
Yup, IQ Target, and many other settings ON 👍🏻
@@alex.copilu Yeah batteries not cheap, but no need battery needed to take advantage of those phase amps. I run 150 and it tried to flip me off even at 25mph. My bbshd doesn't like to pull more than 6.5kw even with limits much higher, I think that's the limit motor can pull. How much of a difference did mtpa make, my tune is great other than mtpa causing power surges / bucking even at low throttle so I don't run it :( . And your wheelies will improve with time, they will get much better! Maybe I should post a video of mine, too warm right now though where I am sun makes me melt over 100f + humidity so I haven't ridden much lately
@@Bengy22I run 120 amps, but I was thinking of trying 150 🫣😅
I haven’t tried without, as I know with it ,is the best power I could get when I firstly changed it….
It’s harsh when start throttling, but I am used with it and I press it around 1-2cm when I start, or I go pedals, as it’s what I need 😁
I hope , I will get better on wheelies at one point, but many times I back up as too many previous bike accidents 🫣
Ummm…I haven’t seen mine more than 62 degrees after a loooong hard run 😁👍🏻
@@alex.copilu I would recommend giving it a try, just keep those core temps under control! The harshness could be your hub engaging, a high engagement hub (but make sure it can take the power) is good or you can try the "zip tie cassette" mod. I run it and enjoy it because no slop in the drive train. Also check your ramp up time. Nylon gear you shouldn't go below .35 seconds. Just need to get the technique down, the power is there. Oh I mean I will melt, not the motor haha too hot for me to want to leave the house!
@@Bengy22
I am going to try the 150amps, hopefully everything will go well , and I won’t screw up too much the battery 😁👍🏻
I think you are right about the hub wheel snap ( the wheel is new, but the power on it it’s a lot ) ….I have not heard about the zip tie mod, but I will give it a try to see how it behaves maybe will help and I might even like it…
The best I think is to change a bit few settings at the throttle curve: throttle expo , and throttle expo mode 🤔 I just have to play 5 minutes, and… I will sort it out 😁
I would like to see more videos based on vesc+bafang, but GOOD BUILDS , not what is shared around at the moment ( shit bikes, Hardtail, or small women bikes only on streets, and with all the organs flying everywhere)👎🏻
A monster is : the forest ripper ,based on Vesc ♥️
I was waiting for this weather since last summer 🤣 it might depends also on where we might live in, but here in UK….you can not complain of too much heat 😅👍🏻
Thank you for sharing your thoughts 🫡
Great video, thanks for uploading 🙂
How long have you had the 75100, has is been reliable the whole time?
@@rickstard73 Thank you 😁
I took the first controller almost 6 months ago, and 1 month ago it broke due to some of my silly “ engineering skills “on the pcb board…. ( I have broken connectors, and I have soldered them up+ other things until I burnt it when I touched a wire on circuits soldering on the board with the controller on 🫣)
It was a beaten up horse to get into the Vesc platform, and to learn things about it ….
Now I have a second one with which I try to be much more careful 👍🏻👌
The controller ( 75100 pro v2.0) it’s reliable and I am sure I won’t have problems with it as long as I won’t try to be too “smart “😅
@@alex.copilu Thanks so much for your reply.
Lol, we tinkerers always get a little too smart, lol 😉
Glad it is good now, have a CYC X1 Pro gen 4 MTB, but am building a eBMX with a 500w Bafang hub motor and was trying to decide between the 75100v2 or 7200v2, after seeing your video I might get the 75100v2 🙂
I will defininitely be careful with it, I was just a little worried about the overheating issues I have read about.
@@rickstard73 what you have heard about the heating problems, was about the 75100, the 75100 pro v2.0 it’s very reliable and no heat problems ( my max esc temperature being 48 degrees)
I ordered the second time the 75200 pro v2.0 , but I cancelled it and ordered again the 75100 pro v2.0 as it’s a bit smaller and fits better into my frame….and honestly it’s enough for the bbshd I think….
I have seen good results with some tuned bafang hub motors as far as I remember
I like the cyc too, the only issue for me being the gear changing , and a bit the noise…. But great setups too 🫶
Good luck with your build 👍🏻👌
1:23 almost hit the car there lol
That’s how it looks, and I also felt that we linked up too early, but in the same time I didn’t feel awkward, or stressed about the situation….
It was purely normal for me , and comfortable as I am a driver and I expect everything on the road, and I try to be ready every time for everything ( I am not that good on off road, or at least I don’t have enough experience on bikes in the forest at high speeds, and I don’t feel very comfortable…)🫣😅👍🏻
Could be the Fastest Delivery ride ever
It could be , if I would do deliveries , but I don’t do that…😁
And to be honest…I don’t know how many deliveries you would do with it, as it would be stolen in few minutes being so exposed and not near by it 🫣😅 My friend who had hub motor e bikes and did deliveries, were taken by the police, or stolen 🫣😅
Not a good candidate for a delivery bike 😅😅👍🏻
@@alex.copilu good point
Must say it looks super fast
I rode my standard e-bike downhill in a London park and reached 31mph or 50 kph i think and that was plenty enough for me 🤣
@@chris53small This time looks fast and it feels fast as a rocket, with plenty of power to lift up the wheel when have speed over 40km/h….
At the start at the video I went full throttle, it had 72km/h and I didn’t want to go faster…. I said after that little run in the video, that was enough for me 😅😅😅 I was running 1:1 gear ratio 42t front and 42t rear…
It still had some field weakening to raise up the speed, and to shift one gear to 36t to get to the 80km/h , but I didn’t have the courage at that specific moment , nor the space/road to do it🫣😅😅
That’s nice, also at 50km/h you have plenty of fun 👌👌👌
@@alex.copilu Why police don't take cars when they produce toxic fumes? Ebikes are completely ecological.
40mph, no front light, along public footpaths. What could go wrong.
@@CazSmith as you see nothing went wrong 😊
@@alex.copilu Until a fox, dog, of some poor sod out for a walk stumbles across your path. I nearly got hit a few days ago by an idiot on a bike not thinking about other peoples safety, or his own.
Can you show us the battery? Show us how you mounted it and what cell group is it (14s5p etc).
Thanks
@@fdfddff6617 ( 14s it’s a 52v….and a 72v it’s 20s )
It’s a 20s4p - 72v 20ah 50amp BMS
It is a battery pack in a perfect sized battery bag which has 4 straps , strapped to the down tube.
Extra, I added other 4 velcro elastic straps over the battery and down tube, as you can see it in the video 👍🏻
@alex.copilu yea, I jumped from the 52v video to this and was thinking 52v when I asked the question about cell. At what volts do you feel the bbshd starts to struggle at (on acceleration) using the 72v?
@@fdfddff6617 the other battery I have it’s a 21700 cells 52v 25ah 40 amps bms battery ( which I run it at 50 amps bms battery due to its big capacity ), and on this one I can feel it struggling a bit, like not pulling the same speed when it’s less than 40-50% battery ( a fully charged 52v battery has 58.8v, and cuts at 42v )
The 72v battery has also 21700 cells ( fully charged at 84v, and cuts at 64…)
I don’t feel here too much power loss to be honest, maybe around 20%, because at 40-50% I still feel that the bike is ripping ( feels more powerful on almost 72v dying battery, than on a fully charged 52v…)👍🏻
@alex.copilu I have a 13S6P 21700 battery at the moment and I'm looking to get something with higher voltage without upgrading controller(stock). I think after much research, I will get 15S6P battery and only charge it to 80% so its below HVC (high voltage cut off) of 59v to make battery last longer and also stay in the higher V range. What you think?
@@fdfddff6617The stock controller with a flashed firmware can read and run 72v batteries ( not fully charged, but around 80%charged )…
The thing is that the controller gets very quick hot at that voltage, and power….
I run my stock controller at 33amps flashed firmware, and it’s fine, not bad at all 😊
I would say that for a good blend to stick with a custom firmware and a shunted controller on 52v 40-50 bms max ( adding some heat sinks on the motor too ) 👍🏻
I don’t go with those 80% batteries for a better life, as my 52v after 3 years of use on mostly high power setups , it still reads 58v + on multimeter 👍🏻
u think a bbs02 bafang could get me up to 35 mph throttle only on a 44t chainring? and how is the cadence sensor I have only tried torque sensor... And also 52v 10ah battery do u think I could do it and what range would I get going 30-35 mph throttle only the whole time?
35 is hard 30 more likely
go get a 72v battery
and 10ah is nothing, specialy if you do want speed.
Bafang BbsHD ? how much Watt is the motor ?
It’s a 1000w on 48v, 1500w on 52v stock, and I tuned it up to 6000w on 72v 👍🏻
@@alex.copilu cant make a 1000w motor to 6000w motor, it stays a 1000w motor then
Do you think this motor pulls only 1000w ? 😑
I only state what Vesc app says on its data….This is its peak power, and between 3-4000w watts continuously 👍🏻
This looks like someone with a death wish. I fully understand the e-bike regulations now.
@@dcallan1 This is a project, made by myself….and I do this in my free time as a hobby.
It’s a lot of work and programming knowledge, is not an easy mounting hub motor which seen on every street….
I ride it like this rarely and in the forest, and more on the videos rather than on a daily basis…
Is not a normal bike ( even if it looks like a normal one ) people needs to have, is kind of a motocross bike,and way too powerful for normal users…🙂
It Is a rocket 🚀
The bike is…legal/restricted when I go in crowded places or when I need to switch between power levels 👍🏻
@@alex.copilu None of that will matter when you hit a tree due to no lighting at 40mph. Bet'cha dont wear a helmet too.
@@CazSmith the camera hasn’t recorded with too much light, but I could see much more than you can see in the video 😊
I have a very bright light, which wasn’t on the bike at that specific time 👍🏻
No helmet sir, I had enough accidents 😅😅
Good luck , and ride as you know better ( don’t worry about me….thanks )👍🏻
@@alex.copilu You might have a different opinion after you come off your bike. I did once and broke bones. Before that I though I was fine riding fast. Nope. Now if I ride a bike I'm wearing the matress off my bed on my back.
Do you have any issues with cogging at startup low rpm/high torque with the vesc?
@@nemohunter87 nope, I sorted it out to be very smooth 👌
can anyone teach me how to wire one
Is this an older video or why no new fork?
@@OneCosmic749 I took them out, as they were too heavy, too slacked to corner well, and I couldn’t fit a brake calliper well enough on it ( non boost fork and boost wheel doesn’t match )…
Those are very light, they do very well, no touching the battery, and the bike lifts up when I want, jumps easy, carried on easier 😁
I tried , but didn’t work for me 😅 Maybe something lighter, a Boxxer, but I am more than happy with this one 👍🏻
incearca cand mai filmezi in padure sa pui ceva lumina pe ghidon.. nu se intelege prea mult din momentul in care ai ramas fara lumina in jurul tau
@@dragos32 stiam de cand am plecat de acasa ca fiind inspre 22:00 nu o sa ma mai ajute lumina de afara 🫣am un newbroler , doar ca nu il mai am instalat ( i am rupt piciorul principal cu ceva timp in urma si trebuie sa imi iau altul ) . Aici am doar o mica lumina sa fiu vazut de masinile din fata…si ce a mai ajutat lanterna telefonului cand a filmat….
Trebuie sa filmez pe timp de zi, sa imi iau o lumina noua, sau sa rezolv ce am stricat pe aici 😅😅👍🏻
Merci de input 🤗