I dont think that logic is fair... The Justice buster is only and specifically to neutralize the League... Where the Hellbat suit is more or less made for every godly battle
One of the many comments that think his logic is flawed (late reply rip). The hellbat suit is very strong but it drains his life force so he can only use it for maybe 60 min at a time. As they said in the comics it is meant for any extinction level event for Bruce wayne to survive and save more people. The Justice Buster is weaker I have to admit that but in terms of usage it is better than the hellbat suit because it has seemingly unlimited use and is still very powerful against other foes. In the end of the day it’s your choice but you have to ask yourself one question: is more power better than a bit less power but you don’t die after an hour? Personally I think his logic is quite correct
@@hobojobo6331 here's the thing his logic is Justice buster took down Justice league , the hell at suit didn't defeat Darkside the Justice league took a COMBINED effort to get rid of Darkside but that's wrong because they were ment specifically to the members on the Justice and not to mention the fact that Superman even getting hit with minnred sun Crystal's took down the suit and he had to use kryptonite gum + they were weakened . So let's apply some logic here if the Justice buster didn't get rid of a weaken Superman and Darkside took down superman woot of times with ease some times others not so much the hell at woul be much more powerful I do see what you mean by the metabolism part and whie that would be a problem it's not in the flash TV (IK comic logic and tv show logic don't go together but just here me out) his metabolism gets eaten quickly so his scientist friends develop a fix were they just give it to him it refuels he's metabolism if they could do it batman could too with a bit of prep
Red sun energy, courtesy of Ray Palmer. They're delivering a high frequency pulse that's disabling your powers, you're not gonna be flying around for quite a while.
I disagree that the justice buster is stronger, the hellbat suit is way more powerful than the justice buster. The justice buster is made with specific counters, and the joker toxin weakens the justice league too. While the hellbat does none of that it lets him trade blows with darkseid which took the entire league to force back
brownwingedangel Agreed. Now of course that was the younger league from the New 52 as they just formed meaning they have almost no teamwork and they’re individually not that powerful, and this Post Flashpoint Darkseid is weakened, but the fact that the suit has that raw power in the first place and that it was built WITH the league members and not FOR them makes it far more powerful.
RCBM Mines ummmmmm it’s the same darkside the new gods aren’t affected by reboots especially when as of rebirth the new 52 is the same universe with the timeline messed with a bit
The Hell-Bat actually made another appearance other than the instance you mentioned. Lois Lane wore it to help Superman and Superboy battle the Eradicator in the first or second arc in Superman Rebirth :)
.....How the hell did she get her Hands on the most awsome looking Bat Suit that was ever made? I dont think Batman would give it to anyone not even one of the Robins.
Since the video has been made, the final batsuit was made by the World Forger as an offensive measure against the Justice League. In Justice League #24, Batman essentially turned his back on the league by The World Forger's machinations about wanting to save the multiverse. Although in actuality, Batman seeks to stop the World Forger by allowing Superman to be sent to a dark part of space where there is no light, therefore weakening Superman for some reason. Who then struggles to find a sun which eventually he does because Clark knows that Batman let him be sent there for a reason. He eventually flew past from sun to sun, building up an excessive amount of energy of which he eventually returns to Batman and pummels the World Forger like crazy alongside Bruce. The Batman obtains the Final Batsuit and uses against the Justice League and essentially cleans house, it's essentially a souped up version of the Justice Buster suit. It practically does what the Justice Buster suit does as well as containing the Son Box which is made from Element X or Tenth Metal.It's absolutely insane and makes quick work of the Justice League with ease.
0:18 So this happens in 2020 where some new heroes break the rules and become a bit ruthless causing superhero war that destroys a lot of stuff and kills a lot of people. (Conclusion) June NO!
Your logic at the end is a bit flawed. The justice buster is specifically designed to take down the justice league. Each attack is catered to a specific justice league member. Whereas the hellbat suit is designed for all combat, against any foe.
Then again tho while its aimed around a certain member of the league this would also be effective against many different foes such as speedsters, atlantiants and kyritonians (sorry for spelling) so while may not be as versitile as the hellbat suit it could be used to fight not just the members of the league. ^_^
@@charleyjones5992 That's how I think of it. If the suit has the capabilities to take out everyone in the JL then it can probably be used in the same way against nearly anyone.
First, really liked the video and second, if anyone needs a more obvious weakness it's Wonder Woman. She is arguably damn near invincible as far as the Justice League goes because her weakness isn't so obvious as Superman or Batman. Like if she goes rogue its up to Superman to beat her.
Martian Manhunter. Superman. Those are the only two people on the Justice League that can reliably take down Diana. Maybe Flash if he's sufficiently motivated. Wonder Woman is terrifying.
The Justice Buster was built to only fight the Justice League. If it faught any other super powered person who wasn't similar to the Justice League members, it'll have a hard time.
Wait, so if the Hellbat Suit is partially powered by Bruce's Metabolism, would that mean that he could just eat a shit ton of food (not enough to become obese, but enough to feel extremely full) and be totally fine (as long as he doesn't overdo it of course)?
The Amazo Batsuit and the Hellbat suit are more favorites. Give Batman Tony Stark Tech combine with Black Panther *Shadow Physics*. He wouldn't have to worry about 24hrs recharges and metabolism depletion. He will have power source that goes on forever and less life threatening.
Luthor could really mess with Superman by just flooding the black market with Kryptonite and letting common criminals walk around with his one weakness
I think the hellbat suit is the strongest. The justice buster suit was designed to counter a few very specific powers while the hellbat suit makes batman strong enough to fight at the same power level as the people the justice buster counters. The justice buster may be better at taking on the justice league, but it is much worse in most other situations, not to mention how clunky it is and how much collateral damage it causes.
Batman Beyond 2.0 is really similar to the Berserker armor from the anime/manga Berserk. Both visually in a sleek, black design, and have narrow, red, aggressive lines for the eye slits. They’re even similar in functionality. The Berserk armor also makes the wearer immune to pain, and “holds their body together” so they can keep fighting regardless of the injury. It also impairs the judgement of the wearer, making them prone to extreme violence.
I love your videos dude. I’m just curious, do you ever do Marvel topics these days? Why not do a video explaining how Doctor Octopus swapped minds with Spider-Man?
Damn Jurgens’ Batman Beyond actually looks great. I honestly still prefer the Earth 12 comics, this does seem really interesting with its ties to main continuity.
The Hell-Bat should be number one here. The Justice Buster is strong but its only so successful because its got special counters for the JL. Should the Hell-Bat fight the Justice Buster the suit that lets you trade blows with Darksied would win.
The most terrifying thing is that the Justice buster had no way of actually taking down Wonder Woman. She's more lethal than Superman because she has no direct weakness, so Batman had to hallucinate her in order to avoid fighting her because if he didn't he'd have nothing to stop her from ripping the suit to pieces.
I think the Hell bat suit is the best but I think it was not on num 1 because of it taking away Bats protein. I think that the hell bat is better because not even Superman can defeat Darkside even if he has let all his power out but that is just me
I thought I should state this I know that the Justice buster defeated the whole justice league but that is because it was built to do so. So it had all their weaknesses how ever the HellBatsuit was just made to fight Gods. Also Darkside can pack more of a punch then a building.
You know they did make a new batsuit that probably puts all of these combined to shame it's the final batsuit from a recent comic in July 2019 so I would maybe recommend making an updated version of this cause it would be cool to see you talk about it.
Had the son of Loki part right. But it is the gold and silver wolves (children of Fenrir) that chase and one day eat the sun and moon that start Ragnarok. Fenrir though kills/eats/is killed by Odin.
Needlemouse you forgot about the exoskeleton batsuits batman used to defeat predator on more than 2 occasions back in the 1990s and 2007 the last batman superman crossover with the alien and predator
I think the Hellbat armor is the strongest, it allows him to fight Darkseid and Darkseid alone can fight the entire Justice League. Superman is the only one who may beat that suit but all Batman needs to do is bring some Kriptonite.
1:17 I wonder why Bruce was so stubborn about retirement from Batman. It would have made sense if in every version, he’d find a replacement like Terry in Batman Beyond.
Well you are right there is a new suit which is said to be the final batsuit(Since its dc it might change)It is so strong that its stronger than any of the suits made in this video.Not only that it can also rewrite a person completely.Basically OP
Their is also a batsuit made of 10th metal in the metal comics. Then there is also a batsuit that was made in the world forge and also can defeat the justice league while he was holding back extremely
While i love the description and logic behind each suit I have a problem with your A>B>C description fornthe Justoce Buster suit. To explain I'll ise Star Wars as an example because I am more knowledgeable in it. But this example id such. Quigon gin was beat by Darth Maul, Obiwan killed maul, but was beaten in turn by Count Dooku, Dooku lost to Anakin. Now here is where the explanation gets good. By this logic you would assume that Anakin dhould be able to kill Obiwan, but when the duel on Mustafar occurs Anakin looses. Its not just a suit or special powers that make up the total outcome in battle. More tha. 50% of a fight is circumstantial. So to say the Justice Buster could defeat Darkseid just because this suit beat the Justice League. It wasnt designed to go through Apokalypse while the Hellsuit was.
I dont think that logic is fair... The Justice buster is only and specifically to neutralize the League...
Where the Hellbat suit is more or less made for every godly battle
One of the many comments that think his logic is flawed (late reply rip). The hellbat suit is very strong but it drains his life force so he can only use it for maybe 60 min at a time. As they said in the comics it is meant for any extinction level event for Bruce wayne to survive and save more people. The Justice Buster is weaker I have to admit that but in terms of usage it is better than the hellbat suit because it has seemingly unlimited use and is still very powerful against other foes. In the end of the day it’s your choice but you have to ask yourself one question: is more power better than a bit less power but you don’t die after an hour? Personally I think his logic is quite correct
@@hobojobo6331 here's the thing his logic is Justice buster took down Justice league , the hell at suit didn't defeat Darkside the Justice league took a COMBINED effort to get rid of Darkside but that's wrong because they were ment specifically to the members on the Justice and not to mention the fact that Superman even getting hit with minnred sun Crystal's took down the suit and he had to use kryptonite gum + they were weakened . So let's apply some logic here if the Justice buster didn't get rid of a weaken Superman and Darkside took down superman woot of times with ease some times others not so much the hell at woul be much more powerful
I do see what you mean by the metabolism part and whie that would be a problem it's not in the flash TV (IK comic logic and tv show logic don't go together but just here me out) his metabolism gets eaten quickly so his scientist friends develop a fix were they just give it to him it refuels he's metabolism if they could do it batman could too with a bit of prep
Rrnumutyd
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But Kill the wearer.
“Red suns… courtesy of ray palmer…” (Batman)
He should have said "Welcome to pain" when he punched Superman lol
(Ray Palmer actually said that once in an old miniseries called "Cry for Justice")
Pyrocumulus25 I’m sorry but haha if you saw the flash/arrow you’d have gotten that
Red sun energy, courtesy of Ray Palmer. They're delivering a high frequency pulse that's disabling your powers, you're not gonna be flying around for quite a while.
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“Nanites courtesy of Ray Palmer” (Green Arrow)
I disagree that the justice buster is stronger, the hellbat suit is way more powerful than the justice buster. The justice buster is made with specific counters, and the joker toxin weakens the justice league too. While the hellbat does none of that it lets him trade blows with darkseid which took the entire league to force back
brownwingedangel but it does drain his life
basically a life orb from pokemon
if it wasnt for the drawbacks it totally would be
brownwingedangel Agreed. Now of course that was the younger league from the New 52 as they just formed meaning they have almost no teamwork and they’re individually not that powerful, and this Post Flashpoint Darkseid is weakened, but the fact that the suit has that raw power in the first place and that it was built WITH the league members and not FOR them makes it far more powerful.
RCBM Mines ummmmmm it’s the same darkside the new gods aren’t affected by reboots especially when as of rebirth the new 52 is the same universe with the timeline messed with a bit
I listen to this while I go to sleep
Same
Same
same
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To be honest he does have a soothing and quiet voice so i see why.
The Hell-Bat actually made another appearance other than the instance you mentioned. Lois Lane wore it to help Superman and Superboy battle the Eradicator in the first or second arc in Superman Rebirth :)
Scσяρισи Tнє Hєℓℓѕραωи yup and also Lois kept the hellbat armor gauntlet as a souvenir which awesome and badass in my opinion
.....How the hell did she get her Hands on the most awsome looking Bat Suit that was ever made? I dont think Batman would give it to anyone not even one of the Robins.
@@neptuneplaneptune3367 she got it in batman's base in the moon
Fuck Lois Lane
Nerd!!!!
Since the video has been made, the final batsuit was made by the World Forger as an offensive measure against the Justice League. In Justice League #24, Batman essentially turned his back on the league by The World Forger's machinations about wanting to save the multiverse.
Although in actuality, Batman seeks to stop the World Forger by allowing Superman to be sent to a dark part of space where there is no light, therefore weakening Superman for some reason. Who then struggles to find a sun which eventually he does because Clark knows that Batman let him be sent there for a reason. He eventually flew past from sun to sun, building up an excessive amount of energy of which he eventually returns to Batman and pummels the World Forger like crazy alongside Bruce.
The Batman obtains the Final Batsuit and uses against the Justice League and essentially cleans house, it's essentially a souped up version of the Justice Buster suit. It practically does what the Justice Buster suit does as well as containing the Son Box which is made from Element X or Tenth Metal.It's absolutely insane and makes quick work of the Justice League with ease.
0:54 that green lantern though...BADASS
0:18
So this happens in 2020 where some new heroes break the rules and become a bit ruthless causing superhero war that destroys a lot of stuff and kills a lot of people.
(Conclusion) June NO!
and the movie A Quiet Place takes place in 2020 so also prepare for aliens to invade and kill us all.
The Hellboy suit is actually still around on Batman s moon bunker. It talks about it in a superman rebirth issue
Oh man, I missed the guitar background music.
Same
Your logic at the end is a bit flawed. The justice buster is specifically designed to take down the justice league. Each attack is catered to a specific justice league member. Whereas the hellbat suit is designed for all combat, against any foe.
Then again tho while its aimed around a certain member of the league this would also be effective against many different foes such as speedsters, atlantiants and kyritonians (sorry for spelling) so while may not be as versitile as the hellbat suit it could be used to fight not just the members of the league. ^_^
@@charleyjones5992 That's how I think of it. If the suit has the capabilities to take out everyone in the JL then it can probably be used in the same way against nearly anyone.
Also, the Justice Buster doesn't put any type of weariness on the user, instead of the Hellbat that uses his metabolism as a fuel source
Thank you I’ve been so bored, without ur vids
your welcome my friend, sorry for the delays in making them, this last one took an eternity to edit
NeedleMouse Productions ok and love your video
That combat suit from Batman Beyond acts just like the Berserker Armor
I think it’s intentional.
First, really liked the video and second, if anyone needs a more obvious weakness it's Wonder Woman. She is arguably damn near invincible as far as the Justice League goes because her weakness isn't so obvious as Superman or Batman. Like if she goes rogue its up to Superman to beat her.
Martian Manhunter. Superman.
Those are the only two people on the Justice League that can reliably take down Diana. Maybe Flash if he's sufficiently motivated.
Wonder Woman is terrifying.
The Justice Buster was built to only fight the Justice League. If it faught any other super powered person who wasn't similar to the Justice League members, it'll have a hard time.
Only thing 2020 came true with predictions was the Kingdom Come Superman appearing
When you read the book thats set in 2020 in 2020
Hell bats stronger, Justice buster dealt with the justice league separated where dark side dealt with the justice league working together
The Final Batsuit is awesome
One word
HELLBAT
Umair Pathan two words
He’s Batman
@@baxico1313 and also plot armor
Hellbat suit is the most powerful because it was made by all of the powerful justice leaguers for a last resort for Batman(Bruce Wayne) to use!!
Nanananana HELLBAT nananana HELLBAT HELLBAT
No it’s batman
Dropped from never changing the background music, it's straight up burned into my brain.
Wait, so if the Hellbat Suit is partially powered by Bruce's Metabolism, would that mean that he could just eat a shit ton of food (not enough to become obese, but enough to feel extremely full) and be totally fine (as long as he doesn't overdo it of course)?
You forgot about the most broken defense in the comics... plot armour
Kingdom come was in 2020. It all makes sense now!
The Amazo Batsuit and the Hellbat suit are more favorites. Give Batman Tony Stark Tech combine with Black Panther *Shadow Physics*. He wouldn't have to worry about 24hrs recharges and metabolism depletion. He will have power source that goes on forever and less life threatening.
I love the beyond suit
There’s always a catch to it
Luthor could really mess with Superman by just flooding the black market with Kryptonite and letting common criminals walk around with his one weakness
That already happened, except It was a huge meteorite instead of Lex luthor. Batman helped him collect it.
I think the hellbat suit is the strongest. The justice buster suit was designed to counter a few very specific powers while the hellbat suit makes batman strong enough to fight at the same power level as the people the justice buster counters. The justice buster may be better at taking on the justice league, but it is much worse in most other situations, not to mention how clunky it is and how much collateral damage it causes.
There is a new strongest suit just search batman final suit
I want some krypotonite gum
:(
The Hellbat suit gives me The Batman Who Laughs vibes from how gothic and edgy it looks.
Batman Beyond 2.0 is really similar to the Berserker armor from the anime/manga Berserk. Both visually in a sleek, black design, and have narrow, red, aggressive lines for the eye slits. They’re even similar in functionality. The Berserk armor also makes the wearer immune to pain, and “holds their body together” so they can keep fighting regardless of the injury. It also impairs the judgement of the wearer, making them prone to extreme violence.
That prototype Beyond Batsuit sounds like a mix between the Berserker Armor from Berserk and Spidey's Symbiote suit
Wow those suits are so good that you can think that you don't need skill to be a superher
The Batman beyond suit is just like spidey's black symbiotic suit.
Advanced yet deadly.
The batman beyond suit the second one reminds me of Gut’s demon
I kept Reading it as the most powerful Biscuits
The hellbat suit is definitely an awesome suit. Really hope one day we get to see it animated in a movie or show
I read “Most powerful in Biscuits”
Doomsday: hold my beer
Punches darkside in the face again koing him
your channel is better than the main DC channel in TH-cam honestly
Dam the second Batman beyond suit reminds me of venom
0:25 2020... huh.. I see well everyone prepare for Batman!
8:46 looks like the suit from batman arkham knight "knightfall protocol" ending
I just love the Endgame Comic.
Sh3rly Same. One of my favorite Batman stories.
I think the explanation makes sense, it's not that they were physically weaker but mentally unstable so they couldn't fight as coherently
This my favorite video you'ev done on Batman.
What they didn’t know about 2020
I love your videos dude. I’m just curious, do you ever do Marvel topics these days? Why not do a video explaining how Doctor Octopus swapped minds with Spider-Man?
I wish the Hell batsuit was made into a skin in Batman: Arkham Knight. Possibly a mod someday.
Oh, do I have news for you, my friend! (Even tho you most likely know)
Did he just say Kingdom Come is set in 2020?
Yeah 😂
Well fuck
Red suns ?! Oh god miniature red sun knuckles ! That is literally god level crafting !
Damn Jurgens’ Batman Beyond actually looks great. I honestly still prefer the Earth 12 comics, this does seem really interesting with its ties to main continuity.
Who else is watching this during quarantine cause your bored
me
9:10 It actually reappears in Tomasi and Gleason’s Superman run.
Did it resurrect anyone?
2020 and still no Kingdom Come in real life? I’m disappointed.
Ha they were right about the apocalypse of 2020
The Hell-Bat should be number one here.
The Justice Buster is strong but its only so successful because its got special counters for the JL.
Should the Hell-Bat fight the Justice Buster the suit that lets you trade blows with Darksied would win.
The JB could trade blows with the whole justice league and darksied to it also dosent kill Batman when he were it for to long🥴
Need an updated version because of the final batsuit armor from the JL comics
The most terrifying thing is that the Justice buster had no way of actually taking down Wonder Woman. She's more lethal than Superman because she has no direct weakness, so Batman had to hallucinate her in order to avoid fighting her because if he didn't he'd have nothing to stop her from ripping the suit to pieces.
And she was in a weakened state.
Diana is absolutely terrifying.
The new Batman Beyond suit is very similar to the Berserker Armor from Berserk.
That’s what I said
I think the Hell bat suit is the best but I think it was not on num 1 because of it taking away Bats protein. I think that the hell bat is better because not even Superman can defeat Darkside even if he has let all his power out but that is just me
I thought I should state this I know that the Justice buster defeated the whole justice league but that is because it was built to do so. So it had all their weaknesses how ever the HellBatsuit was just made to fight Gods. Also Darkside can pack more of a punch then a building.
The Justice Buster is so powerful because of its diversity, but it doesn’t match the raw power of the Hell-Bat Suit.
You know they did make a new batsuit that probably puts all of these combined to shame it's the final batsuit from a recent comic in July 2019 so I would maybe recommend making an updated version of this cause it would be cool to see you talk about it.
Imagine Batman got the super soilder serum
Had the son of Loki part right. But it is the gold and silver wolves (children of Fenrir) that chase and one day eat the sun and moon that start Ragnarok. Fenrir though kills/eats/is killed by Odin.
Needlemouse you forgot about the exoskeleton batsuits batman used to defeat predator on more than 2 occasions back in the 1990s and 2007 the last batman superman crossover with the alien and predator
Omg you voice is so calming I love it
The Batman beyond suit is basically the berserker armour form berserk LMAO kill you’re pain hmm never herad that before
Batman was reading a lot of the berserk manga when he made the second Batman beyond suit
The hellbat suit is so cool
It’s a cop out ? No it makes sense lol
Batman still has the Hell bat suit as lois lane puts it on in the moon in a recent superman storyline and has kept it since
Batman: *laughs in final batsuit*
I think the Hellbat armor is the strongest, it allows him to fight Darkseid and Darkseid alone can fight the entire Justice League. Superman is the only one who may beat that suit but all Batman needs to do is bring some Kriptonite.
The most powerful is hell bat suit for me
In the distant future....(or literally 2 years)
Notingk
Make like 10 insider suits and he will never run out of charge and if it runs out midfight he can just use it without its special powers
1:17 I wonder why Bruce was so stubborn about retirement from Batman. It would have made sense if in every version, he’d find a replacement like Terry in Batman Beyond.
0:05 "Imjustice 2"
Well you are right there is a new suit which is said to be the final batsuit(Since its dc it might change)It is so strong that its stronger than any of the suits made in this video.Not only that it can also rewrite a person completely.Basically OP
Tbh nothing compares to the greatness and raw power of adam west's batsuit
the kingdom come comic set now they must have trouble fighting covid
Please do who has Batman slept with.
5:00 basically the berserker armour from berserk
I like the kingdom come art style it reminds me of the movie with johnny depp (rango)
I would argue that the hellbat suit is more powerful than the justice buster. Either way good video.
This video is the best
Their is also a batsuit made of 10th metal in the metal comics. Then there is also a batsuit that was made in the world forge and also can defeat the justice league while he was holding back extremely
The new batman beyond suit is a great story!
For a second I thought this was a batman beyond video
While i love the description and logic behind each suit I have a problem with your A>B>C description fornthe Justoce Buster suit. To explain I'll ise Star Wars as an example because I am more knowledgeable in it. But this example id such.
Quigon gin was beat by Darth Maul, Obiwan killed maul, but was beaten in turn by Count Dooku, Dooku lost to Anakin. Now here is where the explanation gets good. By this logic you would assume that Anakin dhould be able to kill Obiwan, but when the duel on Mustafar occurs Anakin looses. Its not just a suit or special powers that make up the total outcome in battle. More tha. 50% of a fight is circumstantial. So to say the Justice Buster could defeat Darkseid just because this suit beat the Justice League. It wasnt designed to go through Apokalypse while the Hellsuit was.
What about the god armour he gets when he tricks the world forger? That's comic book based and looks pretty badass... plus looks like a batsuit to me.
Batman Beyond supersuit was basically Berserk Armor from Berserk.
Wait if he had tech available to make him like Amazo why didn’t he A) keep it and B) use it before
The element X Batsuit says hello :)
Kingdom Come has already come. it's 2020
this kid could voice a young alfred
Me: sees what people think will happen in 2020
Whats actually happening in 2020: Coronavires
aye man we still got this whole year for shit to happen this could be next 😂😂
this video needs to be updated A new batsuit just been seen and it may be more powerful than hellbat and justice buster combined