DEBATE: Would There Have Been a Holocaust Without Hitler?
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"It wouldn't be the same holocaust."
Tons of truth in that statement.
@@g3nj1 The Holocaust without Hitler would be like Cheer without Norm.
For all the pompous fanfare of these gentlemen, they failed to see that Holocausts are from all time, hitting all peoples across the globe. There is nothing special about the one that killed some jews, other than that it is being spoonfed to the masses as the most horrible crime in history, which it isn't.
@@tylerdurdan7128 That's not true. There have actually been worse mass murderers. Through democide, the ones in Russia were much more effective at genociding the population. Genghis Khan with Hitler era tech would have been absolutely brutal. Etc. There's a very good chance we may have lucked out with Hitler because he had sound enough mind to be efficient in many ways. Dude wasn't an utterly murderous war hungry type like so many others.
@@g3nj1 get a life
@@tylerdurdan7128 it would be like a fart without a smell
We should ask Kanye west about this
He would ask Jesus...
@@Nah_Bohdi who would ask Jesus?
Based
He could have substituted in for Prager and it would have been a zero-sum outcome.
Kanye did what he did to get out of contracts.
Man that last line that Dennis said gave me chills
That's for sure, and Mr. Prager really has the voice for it, doesn't he?
Only part I didn't agree with in the quote was that the Cross is fragile. Nazi Germany fell and yet the Church still stands.
@Mephisto Film Restoration Really? That's a significant difference, translating(?) it from rotten to fragile? The author has some serious errors other than that most serious disrespect toward the Lord's saving grace. All Germans are not the same, just like all Jews are not the same. It's not right to judge and limit a people by their weaknesses.
Went into the comments to write just that 😂 thanks for saving me the trouble.
@Mephisto Film Restoration I see. Thanks for the explanation, but sometimes saying things like that can add to it happening. What we focus on grows.
I am pleased that we are finally addressing this topic, despite its sensitive nature, after all these years. No topic should be considered off-limits when it comes to open discussion, and it is essential to invite everyone, including those who deny the event and those who are skeptical about it, to contribute to the conversation.
Dr. Peterson is Brilliant. I think what he’s doing is that he is connecting a religious doctrine and religious experience to the rational ideologies of the the existing practical world. Connecting the biblical evil to how it can manifest into psychological realities. Correct me if I am wrong, Dr. Peterson.
Yeah and not bias!
The 3rd Reich was based on he father son and the holy ghost, hitler was sanctioned by the Vatican.
😮😅gig 😅
God bless everyone reading this
Amen. All glory, faith, hope and love to Jesus Christ.
And thanksgiving to God our Father for the greatest Christmas present we will ever receive- the sacrificial blood of His son Jesus Christ. Amen.
By-Tor sends his Snow Dog to bring you Yule greetings as well. So say us all.
A blessing of God to you too i hope 🙏
@Invité It's not awful. It's the greatest expression of love the world has ever seen. Yes the crucifixion itself was awful. But Jesus sacrificing His life, taking every sin ever committed from the beginning of time upon himself so that we sinners can be justified and made righteous in the site of God is the greatest gift you and I will ever receive. So Jesus became what we are, sinners, so that we could become what He is righteous and holy. And through the grace of almighty God, through faith and trust in who Jesus is, the Son of God and what He sacrificed for us on the cross, and that God raised Him to life on the third day to forever defeat death, God will declare us innocent and give us new lives and a new purpose both here on earth and for eternity in heaven. The gift has been freely offered. All you have to do is accept it in faith in Jesus Christ. Amen.
I’m quite far from most of these gentlemen on the political spectrum but I’d like to say that I find this series fascinating! It can be enjoyed by all
I find it sad to have to say you're far from them politically. It's group mentality at his finest, personally I don't give a damn what they "are" politicaly, what interests me is their opinion too. Politics separate people, specially in the US with the false dichotomy between your parties...
Maybe not as far as you think
@@astromigui ‘your parties’? I’m not from the US. And my comment was drawing attention to the fact that this content is interesting for everybody, something which certain champions of the Daily Wire wouldn’t necessarily enjoy to hear *cough* Ben Shapiro *cough* …I was attempting to build bridges though your response appears to want to burn them
You don't even know where each of them stand on any given issue, what sense does a political statement have in this discussion? It has no bearing.
@@johannesking5029 it was a statement regarding the utility of the content on the Daily Wire, which is often vilified by those who don’t resonate with the views of the conservative right. I am well-aware of the views held by many of these men, if you don’t mind.
I can't believe Jordan went 10 minutes talking about WWII without mentioning Nietzsche. The dude must've been ready to blow!
Love you Jordan, you helped 3 of us in one family. ❤️
Yes. I realized it in the pandemic crisis. Everybody obeying and denouncing those who didn't follow the rules
Delusional position.
The world went voluntarily into the abyss and complained the entire time.
The Germans went willingly into the abyss and loved it.
@@michaelz6555 I don’t think it is a delusional position. There are still millions who believe in wearing masks everywhere in public, maintaining social distance, avoiding get togethers etc. When the pandemic hit, many out of fear blindly listened to the government. They were fine judging their brothers and sisters who were free thinkers. Even to this day there is a stigmatism to those who didn’t get the vaccine.
Obviously Covid doesn’t even compare to the severity of the Holocaust. However I do believe that Covid gave us a small window into how people throw freedom out the door in the name of fear.
A bit like God; you don’t follow God’s rules and you’re denounced and bound for eternal doom.
Got to love the irony
@@jamesaston410 Poor analogy, I'm afraid. God is true. What these petty tyrants say is a lie.
@@warnerchandler9826 whether God is true or not is irrelevant, the Bible confirms what I said - if one doesn’t believe one is doomed!
Denis Praeger's reading of the Heinrich Heine poem about the talismanic cross . . . . .the hair on the back of my neck is standing on it's ends.
I had the same response. Prescient poet.
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“You are the master of your destiny: No one and nothing can come in between you and your destiny except you. Take destiny by the horns and have fun.” -Master Oogway
This comment reminds me of how impressed I was by inspirational quotes when I was 9 years old lmfao
Wow, that end quote was incredible... Goosebumps.
Yes, dangerous dictator often form a positive feedback relationship with those who support them in which they feed off of each other becoming more and more radical.
Trump?
@@jamesaston410 Trump is LITERALLY nazi he killed billions
Obama!!
Jordan should talk less. I think he should just stay quiet for longer stretches so others can bounce things back and forth. I find it rather irritating that JP constantly interrupts every 10 seconds
"A Frenchman is self-assured because he regards himself personally, both in mind and body, as irresistibly attractive to men and women. An Englishman is self-
assured, as being a citizen of the best
-organized state in the world, and therefore as an Englishman always knows what he should do and knows that all he does as an Englishman is undoubtedly correct. An Italian is self-assured because he is excitable and easily forgets himself and other people. A Russian is self-assured just because he knows nothing and does not want to know anything, since he does not believe that anything can be known. The German's self-assurance is worst of all, stronger and more repulsive than any other, because he imagines that he knows the truth - science - which he himself has invented but which is for him the absolute truth.“ - Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
Wow, Tolstoy.
The power of judgment.
"So let me tell you a story about two trees and the talisman of the cross...," said God. (Thank you Dennis for that quote!)
Sorry to bother you Ted, but do you happen to know where I can find the Heinrich Heine quote? Many thanks.
Clearly, the Germans were deeply humiliated by a winners victory (so much different than the soft treatment of France after the Napoleonic devastations in Europe - Vienna 1815), the harsh procrastination with the forced loss of many symbols of modernity (fleet/ industry) and a one-sided guilt attribution in the Treaty of Versailles - which was unjust.
They were depleted by famine, war poverty and the mourning for the losses in every family, in a war, they did not start, but was forced on them, primarily by France (Christopher Clark - Sleepwalkers) and Russia (Sean McMeekin), and they were deeply disappointed by the USA, where they had tried to convince President Wilson (end of 1916) to moderate a peace process like Teddy Roosevelt had done with Russia and Japan in 1805 - instead he chose to send own troops to Europe.
And so their feelings were disturbed and chaotic, and then came a Hitler - who can guarantee that another powerful orator and as well as sensitive listener would have emerged at that time, if he would not have shown up...? - who was capable of focusing their energies against a scapegoat ...
If nobody gets away with anything ...? why did France get away for their constant aggression against Germany, the war of 1870, interwar tensions (several Marocco-crisises), the war of 1914, the brutal occupation of the Ruhr-area - would there ever existed a sufficient breeding ground for the monsters of National Socialism, if other states, primarily France , would not have prepared it ..??? [no excuse for the nazi-crimes].
Hitler was an exception.
I am very sure that without him the Nazis would not have been able to consolidate power and thus organize the mass murder...
So I do believe the HC would not have happened without Hitler.
WWI was forced on Germany by France? That is ridiculous. Please read a few good scholarly history books on this subject.
“Give them hell”
He showed his true colours….wishing others to suffer and die.
What is Holocaust???🤷
It was the one time jews had to do manual labor, so they claim it killed them
Oh dear
@@woodycockerson9479 lol
It's a german rock band. 😅
he should read 200 years together by Solzhenitsyn. u guys arent on the same team lmao
I just looked at this and I’m lmfao 😂 antisemitism is in soooo much old literature. What’s that one quote? “I would be an antisemitism if it weren’t for the chance of birth. Nobody gets kicked out of every country they enter for two thousand years without blame.”
I am so sick of this bs narrative being shoved down our throats
The Heinrich Heine poem that Dennis Prager cites should be seen in the historical context of 1834, when the spreading of the French Revolution of 1830 into Germany could just be avoided by the German Aristocracy. The Revolution eventually happened in Germany and Austria in 1848, which is likely what is predicted correctly by the poem, but luckily it wasn’t nearly as bloody as either of the French Revolutions (of 1830 and 1789). Part of the driver behind the 1848 Revolution was a developing anti-clerical sentiment, described as the ‘broken cross’ in the poem. Great poets have a sense for the Zeitgeist and so are often able to give astonishingly accurate insights into the state of mind of their people. But there is no way Heinrich Heine could have predicted what happened more that 100 years into the future, that’s too much of a leap of faith imho.
Of course he wouldn't know the details of something like that 100 years into the future. He knew a horror worse than the french revolution was going to happen, but did he know it was going to be specifically millions of jews slaughtered industrially like cattle at specifically around 1940s? No, but his prediction was right.
If he did predict that holocaust, that's not impressive, because anybody can predict stuff that doesn't happen.
@@drooskie9525What the initial comment is saying is that this wasn't even what Heine meant.
It had nothing to do with a nation vs nation or worldwide war, as well as targeting a specific group that literally didn't want to be german...
Prediction was far more so related to an anti-clerical revolution, one of classes, like that of France, which in ww2 terms would mean the Germans voting for hitler and becoming nazi germany...
As the initial comment says, it's highly unlikely that that's what he was going after...
Breathtaking, mind-expanding wisdom. Humbling and thought provoking.
Thank you Mr Peterson and thank you to your co-hosts.
The west is still trapped in its pagan dream, when will it end?
The Romans deified Jesus to maintain their pagan, lucrative human-worship that boosted their economy but ultimately led to their downfall when the they fell too far in their self-worship.
This cursed interpretation of Christianity, which prioritizes human worship, statues and images of human men and women who resembles the people of their own ethnicity, has unconsciously inspired men and women to be gods themselves, creating the countries with the greatest wealth but causing even greater economic crises as a result! This twisted pagan interpretation of Christianity is followed even by those who are atheists, its the Mother of extremist leftist and right-wing ideologies, who all share the fraternal bond rooted in the shared belief that people - or at least certain groups of people - are inherently good.
They call themselves christians and wair the cross proudly on their chest, and they curse the romans for crucifying Christ, but they do not understand that they themselves are the pagan Romans, who worship images of themselves, human statues, idols, and sacrifice others for their sins! They claim to love ‘humanity’ in the name of christ but can only percieve the group they belong to as the true essence of humanity.
The western world has been in a cycle of Repentence, economic growth, self-worship, economic downfall, sacrificing, repentence.
Have they not nailed enough Prophets to their cross?
Have they not nailed enough syrians and irakees to their cross?
Have they not nailed enough Africans to their cross?
Have they not nailed enough Indians to their cross?
Have they not nailed enough Asians to their cross?
Have they not nailed enough Jews to their cross?
They eat themselves into nihilism, economic crisis and war, and can only be forced into humility by war! Not by god, for they think they are God and his angels. After sacrificing millions of innocent lives, they achieve an economic recovery fueled by humility and guilt, after which they shake religion off, and go for another round of self-worship.
First time watching anything like this, and this roundtable is unbelievably fascinating... The sheer collection of knowledge, reflection and character, I'm so happy to be able to see this, it's incredible
something about this format feels really pretentious
Maybe because we expect conservatives to look like that
And a tad narcissistic
They're underestimating the religious archetypal constant that jews are persecuted. It would've happened in a different way
DR.Peterson literally gives HIS BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS TO TEACH AND ENLIGHTEN. IMMERSE YOURSELF IN HISTERY
@kareem abdul jabbar ya kno stuff
People have been repeating history since the Garden
yes!!
I love these "What if" questions, they make for great conversations.
I mean those conversations are just superficial knowledge babbling disguised as a thought provoking spectale.
Peterson cant get into details about the historical necessities that forged the holocaust, cause all thinkers who did the greatest work on that question are canceled by him as "cultural marxists". I mean Peterson has always been pure ideology, while accusing everybody else of the same. He is a fraud, and a cheap one too.
Dr. Peterson,
Thank You
Yours,
D. Blagden
That last quote is truly chilling.
Love the chilled out English touch on these discussions.
What’s the general thoughts about the Vatican during this dark moment in history?
They sent Hitler birthday wishes each year!
Did you want the Vatican to roll out tanks and deploy armed forced against Nazi Germany?
The Vatican was basically a city surrounded by a fascist regime who was allied with Hitler.
lies
Jordan I think he's right he called forth anger aggression from a larger crowd and it was about more than the war but the conflict from the Reparations would've called forth regardless I think there's a special type of evil that calls to a larger amount of peoples gross divisions and controls the ones who disagree through fear and regardless of the similarity of control they have differences in who's trusted and what they're afforded when running an empire
The anger of the Germany people was quite possibly entirely justified. This is not to confuse their actions with justice though. The German people had seen the social destruction of Berlin (the degeneracy, pedophilia and sinfulness happening there in disgusts me to talk about). The Bolsheviks had moved into their land and were threatening to turn the entire nation into the same degeneracy that had taken Berlin.
What happened the German's perpetrated was wrong and not justice, but to suggest that it was purely due to the German populace's anger towards "reparations" is to ignore the truly awful truth that the Bolsheviks brought with them.
What happened in the 1940's was certainly partially a fallout of what happened in the 1920's, but much more happened in the 1930's to lead up to it. But this in an inconvenient truth that many today would like people to forget. Perhaps the best wisdom to derive from the lesson that was the atrocities of WWII is that 'an overapplication of justice is simply injustice'.
The German people were right to rise up against the evil in their land. And they did. However, once justice had been served, they failed to release their anger and pursued the next 'target'. In this way they showed that the 'path to hell is paved with good intentions'. In wanting to rid their country of an enemy, they became the greater foe.
This is the same reason why truth has no agenda, it simply is. Hitler, whether he the cause or the symptom, matters not nearly as much as each individual today realizing their own ability to contribute to that same awful result. We cannot change out this world's leaders, but we can change who we follow. And if we all, collectively, choose not to follow bad leaders we will one day have good ones.
This is what saddens me in today's America. The Religious Right fit that description so perfectly it hurts to watch it play in modern times. And yet, too many seem convinced its the "Radical Leftist" who pose that danger, when in reality they do not, nor cannot.
Think about it all the German people had to agree with Hitler to send people to camps. Hitler used the News(like the Democrats do today) hed show how much sick people and handicap people was costing the government. The population agreed and all them went to the same camps.
In a socialist government its too open for Evil. That government type has all the crimes verse humanity.
All the "socialists" in the US are sitting with full bank accounts. Billions! If they was serious about equality show us. BLM has $84Billion in donations yet ZERO goes to the black community. Socialism? so BLM is a new Hate Group? They stir racism and destroying poor neighborhoods. Why not protest in Beverly Hills? OC?
Did Peterson forget that Hitler wrote Mein Kampf before he became Chancellor of Germany in 1933? Essentially a blueprint in parts for exactly what he had in store for the the Jewish population. He was manipulating the German people to take the actions that led to the Holocaust. One of his first acts was the Enabling Act of 1933. Essentially abolishing individual rights. He used that to establish Dachau the same year. Hitler was manipulating those “crowds” and executing his plan to exterminate all Jewish population. He wasn’t getting these ideas from the crowds.
Heinrich Heine nailed it. Wow.
This is such a brilliant panel and discussion
>Would There Have Been a Holocaust Without Hitler?
IIRC Terry Prachett made a great paragraph about how it was all but inevitable (both another great war happening and the Shoah being part of it) due to the socio-political landscape at the time in Germany.
It's sad how it's acceptable for Prager to say such a stigmatizing thing about non jews, but if you were to say the same kind of thing about jews, true or not.. Your life would be over.
Antisemitism existed throughout Germany, but the Nazi Party had its entire political philosophy based around antisemitism specifically. The only reason the Nazi Party was notable was because of Adolf Hitler. Without Hitler and the rise of the Nazi Party, Germany would have torn itself asunder between Communists and Reactionary street violence, as had already been happening even before Hitler was part of NSDAP. The Nazi party wouldn't have been a blip on the radar without Hitler, and so Germany would have probably still found scapegoat in the Communists, but it was Hitler who associated the threat of Communism with a Grand Jewish Conspiracy that necessitated their total annihilation.
Unfortunately, it didn’t happen to begin with
Yes, there would still have been a holocaust without Hitler, but without the catastrophic destruction of the fashionable toothbrush moustache.
>Germanics were farthest along into atheism
All of the European subraces have always been profoundly spiritual and animistic. The 1930s saw just as great of a resurgence in the religion of the German people (whether it was Positive Christianity or those who sought out their people's original European religion(s)) as it did in terms of economy, technology, philosophy, art, literature, and so forth. It could be argued, and I'm confident it has, that the rekindling of the German spirit was the critical piece of Germany's re-ascension (gotta be a word for that which I'm forgetting) in these other fields.
Also
Ay 'Tone!
I would love to just sit in on conversations within this group
It would be lovely to be in the same room! They are giving us the opportunity by publishing their conversations on video.
Your spirit just feels happy just listening . good stuff
JP hasn’t done his deep research and he’s disingenuous. Never mentions Solz’s ‘other book’ though does he which is the actual truth of what was going on.
It's worth noting that the administrators of the concentration camps weren't so much under the influence of Hitler when they let the darkest spectacles of gore and death fill their souls. The guards of Dachau were ordinary Germans, a good number of them women, and they took great pride in what they did even up till their executions.
The most powerful is he that can play the tune that most pleases the mob.
Nope, because even he is slave to the mob. The only who isn't is the one accepts being murdered to be slave to the Truth. The Truth is eternal and can't be beat, so to die as a part of him is to always win.
The whole system of concentration camps was set up by Hitler.
This is by far one of the most unbiased analysis of the Austrian painter I've ever seen, honestly.
“There is nothing new under the ☀️ says the Lord”. NOTHING. Gods Word shall never pass…. It’s from GOD! The creator.
Dennis Prager comes across as naive here. That’s really sayin’ something because he’s a repository of wisdom.
You haven’t dug deeply enough, then. I agree that Prager is a pretty smart guy, but he is too often blinded by his own ideology.
He is much more a fan of his own voice than of those around him. His bluster in the Exodus roundtable is tempered by his acute knowledge that he is not even close to being the smartest man in the room.
Are we talking about the same man who says life is meaningless without belief in God, that man of wisdom?
😂
From which of Heinrich Heines works is the quote, which is read at the end?
..it is so very powerful!
“Christianity-and that is its greatest merit-has somewhat mitigated that brutal Germanic love of war, but it could not destroy it. Should that subduing talisman, the cross, be shattered… then the ancient stony gods will rise from the forgotten debris and rub the dust of a thousand years from their eyes, and finally Thor with his giant hammer will jump up and smash the Gothic cathedrals” (German Jewish poet and writer Heinrich Heine, 1797-1856).
I disagree with the German poet Dennis read….the cross is not fragile. Great show Jordan, thank you! 😊❤️✝️
He was proven right though
But the belief in it is the definition of fragile. Proof? Visit any high school or college.
Wow! Jordan, I love you and everything you say is amazing, but you did tend to interrupt repeatedly and dominate the dialogue. So many great minds at that table.
To be fair it is his discussion
He never interupts to override, he interrupts to build upon the idea
@@edwardjones2129 I appreciate your response, but interrupting is interrupting and is not good hosting.
@@conscientiousdefector Dude it is literally his discussion. He is the conductor. The other panelists came to the table understanding that. He interrupts in a measured amount if he sees a pathway to an idea. It's never his ego telling him that he needs to get more words in
@@edwardjones2129 dude how old are you? Do you have any social awareness? You mean to tell me that if someone is hosting a show, that they have the right to rudely interrupt their guests repeatedly because it’s their show?? And “It’s never his ego”? Oh so Jordan isn’t capable of acting out of ego? 🤣 Also think about your symphony analogy for a second: Is the conductor ever even playing an instrument? 🤷🏻♂️ Unbelievable.
@@conscientiousdefector He isnt rudely interrupting that's just your own biased exaggeration.
Of course he is capable of acting out of ego all of us are, but in this scenerio he isnt
A conductor controls the pace, tempo and flow of an orchestra. Buddy Rich and Dave Brubeck both headlined their respective bands while also orchestrating them. And btw dip$hit his name and likeness is on the title of the entire freaking series. We are currently observing it on HIS channel
I agree but don't forget every good story, needs to first create the settings and characters, or when you write a program, you first establish the parameters, fields, and character strings. With stories or programs, we always have the goal in mind.
This is the best psychological analysis of the Nazis I ever heard. The quote in the end of the Video gave me chills.
Are you a real peraon? How does anyone follow this puppet?
@@alwaysbanned4812 No, I am a Phereaon.
0:00: 🔑 The power of truth can bring down tyranny, but unjust rulers can cause great destruction to innocent people.
3:26: 🔥 Jung believed that the re-sacralization of the political in Germany drove the Nazi spirit forward, as they longed for a return to the archetypal gods.
6:51: 🔑 The video discusses the influence of a mother's words on a child's dreams and the potential for those dreams to become nightmarish.
Recap by Tammy AI
Interesting, but, one thing about the day care fears of a mom, years after one of these accusations against a daycare, they find tunnels dug and going to other buildings, along with other evidence of children being in them.....
“…that subduing talisman, the cross…”
told on himself.
I don’t think Hitler was entirely wrong but he was a very bad person. He properly identified some problems but was entirely too cruel.
Exodus would be called a serial killer in todays day and age, but in his day, many wars were fought over the push on religion. Back in Exodus' days, people held historical ways, which were the embedded core of many belief systems. Forcing people to believe in Jesus when at the core they believe in Buddha was reason enough to kill. Discussions on religion are only relevant after the stage is properly set in the applicable timezones where people had longstanding beliefs and for the most part, people were respected based on those beliefs, until the forced concept of christianity, which caused many wars.
"You shall return minus six million", it was a biblical commandment by Yehwey, something of which Hitler failed to deliver
>exodus series
>we still must talk about holocaust
sounds about right
There’s no way there would’ve been a holocaust if Hitler wasn’t around. My example here: many countries are upset from the colonization and stealing of their countries resources, when the colonizers left, many countries returned to their way of life.
Wasn't this something Isaac Asimov wrote about in the Foundation books?
Wow. Just. Wow.
It ended with a pretty decisive analysis of the real battle here. It is truly the battle between good and evil. Evil has many names for its leaders but the talisman of Good has only one: God.
It made me feel like I'm listening to an Interstellar OST
What would happen to a civilization or a nation whose culture becomes, as Jordan says "materialistic and godless" if it never manifested into something resembling aggression and dictatorship? Would it fall into even deeper voids from where it could commit even greater evils or where the society would collapse into anarchy? Was WW2 , considering the circumstances, ultimately good for the future of human kind?
The United States is on the materialistic atheist path. By far and by large the United States has failed to live up to its historical propaganda, the promotional pull to basically make people work endless days and endless nights, shaving off large portions of their earnings for endless taxes, all which goes against the grain of the Independence from England due to taxation theory as to how the 13 colonies were established. Land of the Free (obsolete promotional taglines due to taxation); Justice for All (Obsolete with the amount of fraud and corruption with government employees greatly overlooked); The American Dream (Totally Obsolete, even Britney Spears who previously referred to herself as The American Dream now has no belief in God); Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness (Obsolete and evident with decisions made in Divorce Cases where people cannot simply move on because the courts find domestic violence and abuse so damn entertaining); PS BTW Slavery was never abolished, evident with US Nationsl Debt (www.usdebtclock.org) they just changed the terminology from Slave to Labor and continued to capitalize on their pyramid schemes.
Do leaders make history or does history make leaders?
Maybe the answer is "yes."
Mob psychology and how to resist it should be the most important focus of sociology. But it isn't. I have a niece in college studying psychology, and she HATES sociology classes because they are meaningless, pointless, and even insane.
A nation like Germany that gave us all these amazing philosophers, artists, inventors and scientists couldn't be this generalized evil image painted about them which i was always sceptical about. Hitler took advantage of the proletariat suffering from hunger, economic collapse and sickness projecting all the blame on Jews and as these gents mentioned the guy was a great orator probably the best since him.
Six million cookies baked in just 3 years seems a little high if you ask me.
The virgin great man theory vs. the chad historical materialism.
one day the truth will be known about everything especially 1 and 2 ww.. on judgement day everyone will understand .. i understand ... there is no more restarting ...
No one ever talk about the Bolsheviks and Holodomor?
because of bolshevist censorship and the fact that there are more tankies than fascists in the internet
Well, why would they talk about the evil deeds of the winners of the war? They are only allowed to talk about the evil deeds of the losers of the war.
I don't understand why this surprises you, the world is biased and will always be. In fact, I think Peterson's analysis on the Austrian painter was quite unbiased in many ways. He also talked about Stalin and the Holodomor though.
Because the Holocaust was far worse than the holdomor
Jordan needs to revisit the McMartin preschool case. Evidence that the children were telling the truth came to light after the preschool was sold in April 1990, providing the first opportunity for private exploration. TED GUNDERSON hired a team of archeologists headed by Dr. Gary Stickel. They used ‘Ground Penetrating Radar’ (GPR) recently developed by the US Army to define the location of anomalies under ground. Three segments of tunnel, one over 45 feet in length with a 9’ x 9’ room area were found exactly where the children said they were. The children identified an actor, household name politicians, professional baseball players, and professional football players. In Mr. Gunderson’s opinion this was a major cover up.
FFS, take off the tin cap. Let it go.
@@Mlai00 Satan is real. "The greatest trick..."
You forget about what the Bolshevik Slavs did to Germans Danzig that aggravated them and what the Bolsheviks did to the 11 million Ukrainians before WW2 even started.
God help us all
Damn. A breathtaking poem of chilling prescience made more powerful by Dennis Prager narration.
men of essence and wisdom , when one talks the others listen.
Thankkkkkk you, to each one of you... Thank you🙏
we should as YE opinions on this
He’s already made his thoughts clear on Alex Jones’ podcast …he doesn’t believe it happened!
Kanye is not very bright
@@jamesaston410 cuz it never did lmao allied investigation confirmed it
anna frank diary confirmed it, she was hospitalized 2 times in 2 different camps then died of typhus
i dont see polpot or stalin hospitalizing prisoners in their camps, instead i see literal mountains of skulls of their victims, go to cambodia for a REAL death camp golim
Don't let history repead itself: "don't listen to stupid people"
People: "jordan is so smart, let's all listen to him"
Nonsensical Hypothetical that can never been tested. In other words: word salad
The simple answer is yes because Nazis would have never consolidated power the way they did without Hitler. So it was the conditio sine qua non to organize the 'Final solution'
Peterson hits on a key component of Hitler, Hitler the opportunist. Hitler always had visions of grandeur for himself. When he was living in hostels or on the street, he ran with Jews and he had no real issue with them. A Jewish doctor saved his mother at first and he was so grateful he wrote him a long letter praising him. The officer who put Hitler in for his Iron Cross, the award he said he was always most proud of, was Jewish.
But Hitler was also aware early on of the deep antisemitism that ran in the German psyche. He picked up on it in the cafe's and beer halls in Austria prior to the war and after the war he heard it in Germany. Was he an anti-Semite at heart? Absolutely. You can't call for the evil he did without believing it. But as Jordan points out, he also went with the crowd on it as far as the intensity of his attacks were concerned. He was willing to go places no one else would and he surrounded himself with likeminded evil men like Himmler who were more than willing to kill for the sake of killing.
There was a sense of destiny in the German national consciousness that needed to be purged. The mistake the allies made in 1918 was not occupying the country and convincing the population they had been defeated. Someone was going to pay for the stab in the back as they put it, and the built-in hatred of the Jews at the cultural/street level provided the excuse to scapegoat the Jews. Would the Holocaust have happened without Hitler? Maybe. But modern-day idiots who compare Trump, Bush, or anyone they disagree with to Hitler are just as bad as those Germans who went along with the Nazi's. They demonize those they have political and social disagreements on at such a visceral level that they dehumanize them. Isn't that what the Nazi's were all about? Those who live in glass houses.
But perhaps I give these people more credit than they deserve. Perhaps they are just so ignorant that they are easily swayed by some blogger who calls everyone who's not a progressive a fascist. Still, when mainstream networks refer to white Christian nationalists, a term that is contradictory and intended to paint political opponents as enemies, not fellow countrymen, we should pay attention because if history teaches us one thing, it teaches us that evil people say what they mean and do what they say. It starts with name calling. Where it ends...Never again.
Humans are going to human, and Hitler is inevitable so long as we continue to forget this.
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Does anyone here know where Heinrich Heine wrote that? I tried to find that quote in german and in english but I couldn't find it :/
"The History of Religion and Philosophy in Germany": - 1835
@@josephtravers777 Thank you
Mark of the beast will be enforced sunday worship (the image of the beast - the papacy or Roman Catholic doctrine of Sunday worship). People will be deceived by false miracles into making a law that enforces or coerces Sunday worship law. This goes against the 1st amendment (freedom of worship).
Revelation 13: 11-14
And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Look up mark of the beast (enforced Sunday worship). The Sabbath is the Lord's day not Sunday. The Sabbath is from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. Read about how Jesus observed the Sabbath day.
Where can i find full debate please?
The whole 16 episode series is rolling out on Daily Wire +
this is unbelievably excellent stuff
We have Trudeau...😢
Wait is he saying hitler is in the same boat as mlk and gandi
This is a quote from the Talmud, Megilla 6a-6b (compiled 1500 years ago) which predicts WW2:
And Rabbi Yitzḥak also said: What is the meaning of that which is written: “Grant not, O Lord, the desires of the wicked; further not his evil device, so that they not exalt themselves. Selah” (Psalms 140:9)? Jacob (the patriarch) was saying before the Holy One, Blessed be He: "Master of the Universe, grant not to the wicked Esau the desires of his heart, as he wishes to destroy us. Further not his evil device [zemamo]; do not remove the muzzle [zamam] that constrains him and prevents him from breaking out and gathering further strength." This is a reference to Germania of Edom, i.e., Germany, which is near the land of Edom, i.e., Rome. As, if the Germans would go forth, they would destroy the entire world.
What version of the Bible is the best to learn from it ?
Very interesting conversation
it always comes to the culture of the land. why God chose people as cultural groups to educate them at the end of our time. It's the time of nations and nation-states. why Jews were condemned and conquered by Romans right after Jesus. collection conscience as Jung has described is the vital force of our time.
Mr Jordon how can l as a youth solve a problem of watching phonograph