Israelis: Do you think this was a "land without a people"?
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As an Israeli im ashamed of the lack of knowledge some of the people in this video showing...
you should teach them that they actually stole the land & they don't have to lie to themselves to feel better. it's called being delusional
@@seifeddinefardous8813 how can jews steal judea? It doesn't make sense. It was jewish land for thousands of years
@@seifeddinefardous8813 this is also not an educated answer.
There was people here. But never a nation or a state.
@@DIY-Mechanic so you stole their land and made it a state lol
also talking about nations, jews were never a nation hence they don't have one culture, one history and one background.
they come from all around the world and claim someone else's land in the west bank today.
Nations are organic, they come to existence naturally, Israel a pure lab work, even your language is a new invention, the hebrew of today is not the old hebrew. and last thing is religion don't have any claim to "nationhood" today you can convert to judaism and claim land in Israel while claiming your ancestors used to live there. CRAZY delusion and next level arrogance
@@DIY-Mechanicare you joking you consider yourself educated person, your sick colonial logic is so so dangerous for world peace you simply justifying stealing anything from anyone, you saying I can steal my nextdoor house because it's never been a country even better I can steal a city because it's never been a country exactly what terrorist will do what you are doing right now for decades and justifying it like all colonial powers before you, you nothing more European colonizer supported by colonial powers to protect their interest in middle east and justifying it by none sense logic maybe you are brain washed fascist or working for hasbara and paid to be colonial propagandist
As an Israeli Jew, these are some really embarassing answers 🤦🏻♀️. It's past 2 a.m. so I won't go into details.
I just like to note that different people were given different phrasings of the question. There's a huge difference between "land without people" and "land without a people".
This is pretty common on this channel.
Yeah.. he's not extremely professional and making sure to ask the questions properly with out distorting it.
To be fair, this isn’t a poll. I imagine he asks some people with one phrasing, he thinks the answers he’s getting aren’t good so he tries asking the question a different way.
”a land without a people” is a euphemism for ”this place hasn't got strong nationalism”… implying the predicted success of nationalism if it were to conquer there. Doesn't mean it's right to do so.
I think his Hebrews not so good
His Hebrew is correct. He's not using the word for people - anashim, he's using the word for nation - am.
I'd like to offer my 2 cents, if anyone is interested...
From the discussions I have seen, people are conflating two things that need to be separated.
First, there were people who lived on the land that is now referred to as Israel, the West Bank and Gaza (formerly British mandate Palestine). They could all be referred to as Palestinian, regardless of their religion or ethnicity. People started referring to them as Jews vs. Arabs because there was a clear split between the 2 (the originally local Jews having been outnumbered by those migrating there, fleeing European persecution and the horrors of the holocaust, or for other reasons). The "Arabs" were referred to as such because of their language and their culture, again regardless as their religion (Christians being a sizable minority, and Jewish "Arabs" falling into a grey area, basically being more acceptable and assimilated to the non-Arab Jews). So there were people living there, regardless of their origin. They owned houses, lands, businesses, etc., and they had the right to continue living undisturbed, whether they had been there for dozens of generations over centuries, or whether they were newly migrants living there for only one or two generations (the same can be said of the Israeli citizens of today; personally, I don't believe at all that anyone has the right to kick them out, except, may be, the new settler having themselves stolen Palestinian people's houses in Jerusalem and elsewhere; also those perpetration violence and actual pogroms in the West Bank need to be put on trial, or forgiven within the context of a South Africa style "Truth and Reconciliation committee"). Those displaced or harmed by the creation of Israel and their descendants deserve some sort of compensation, either by being allowed back to their former homes or some agreed upon financial retribution.
The second part is about who the Palestinians are. They are indeed the descendants of the various people who have lived and settled in that land throughout history. Some are even descendant of Jews who have converted. The term "Arab" is mostly understood as referring to the various people having adopted some form of the Arab language and culture, regardless of their ethnicity, similarly to the fact that Latin American people share a lot of cultural similarities regardless of their ethnicity or religion, and that each country has its own distinct culture with its own regional differentiations. That includes the fact that Islam is a big part of the Arab identity and has had a strong impact on the culture, even though not all Arabs are Muslims (also similar to Catholicism in Latin America). For example, in my country, Egypt, DNA tests performed on some mummies have revealed strong similarities with the current make up of the current "Arab" population of Egypt (the tests were made on mummies from "generic" dynasties, not on Hittite, Levantine, ones or Kush ones from Sudan). What adds a bit to the confusion is that Arabic speaking nomadic tribes throughout the Arab world are often referred to as "Arabs" and that up until a few decades ago, we, in Egypt, used to refer to Gulf Arabs simply as "Arabs" as well. The subtle difference in meaning is understood from the context, but it is obvious how errors can be made in translation of texts or documents and that someone with a limited knowledge of the language and the culture can get things mixed up.Also, someone was saying that the Arab conquest forced Islam on the people, which is false. Again citing Egypt as an example because that's what I am most familiar with, the country has retained a Christian majority for centuries, under Arabic and Islamic rule. Conversions occurred at a relatively slow pace throughout history. Of course the rulers were no angels and there were clear privileges granted to Muslims, but the religious diversity was accepted and the Coptic Orthodox Church was respected. After all, Maimonides, or Rambam, the great Jewish thinker, did live and throve in Egypt.
So, in summary, being Arab is more of a culture than an ethnicity, there is some confusion due to the way Arabs themselves use the term, but the one thing for sure is that there were people living between the Jordan river and the Mediterranean sea for multiple generations, before the creation of the State of Israel, regardless of their origin or what we want to call them. They deserve rights and the many displaced ones deserve some form of compensation or reparations. All people living in that region today deserve to continue living there (even though some on both side deserve to be put on trial for their crimes). It doesn't matter whether they end up living in separate states or in a binational one where everyone gets equal rights, but the solution has to be peaceful, fair, and to ensure everyone's security and human rights. It is a far fetched dream but I really wish to see it in my lifetime (well, I am not getting any younger, so I don't know about that, but I am still hoping for a miracle).
The thing is that if everyone were as reasonable as you, a resolution would have happened much earlier. I understand why 'Arabs' fought, just like I understand why 'Jews' fought. I think that the complete rejection of the 1947 UN partition plan and the immediate civil war that erupted, later converting into a regional war needs to be taken into account when speaking about refugees and compensation. I think that a special standard is being placed here on the state of Israel, when comparing with many other occurrences of population transfer and wars whether between Turkey/Greece or the beak up of Yugoslavia and other examples. I think that the Jews who were discriminated against and forced out of many Arab countries aren't expected to be compensated because Israel allowed them in and be assimilated, while the Arab countries do not allow descendants of Palestinians to now get citizenship. It is kind of a weird and manipulated situation where the refugee number just keeps getting inflated more and more (potentially infinitely). Of course there are many unjust things that happened and will keep happening, I agree that we as humans always need to strive to be better and for certain ideals, but we also cannot retroactively judge a certain situation by current standards and apply different standards to similar situations around the world.
@@Firstname_Surname mmmm there’s a lot to unpack here. I don’t like to get into debates in the comments section. There are lots of misconceptions regarding the war. May be you should consider reading about it from the Arabs’ point of view so you can have both perspectives. As for the assimilation, things aren’t as simple. The purpose of Israel has always been to attract and assimilate Jewish people. Arabs don’t see themselves as all the same. Even Palestinians who managed to get a passport from a different country, whether Jordan or even Western countries, still see themselves as Palestinian or of Palestinian descent. Finally, regarding the supposed persecution of Jews in Arab countries, also try to read more about it. And there have been false flag operations aiming at driving Jews to Israel, see the Bagdad Bombings, in the 1950s, in Wikipedia, as well as the Lavon Affair (a failed false flag that took place in Egypt). And, of course, there is the fact that Egypt’s military dictator in the 1950s and 1960s, Nasser, unfortunately opted to ask the Jewish population to leave following the 1956 war. He thought he was punishing Israel while he was actually doing them a favor, and he harmed Egypt by making us lose some of the country’s inclusivity and the cosmopolitan aspect of our major cities.
Finally, I’d like to thank you for calling me reasonable. Please note that it’s easy to be reasonable when I’m not in a country at war, I don’t feel dispossessed, and I haven’t lived the atmosphere of war that could have left a grudge (I was born a few months before the 1973 war).
@@tareksadek9544 I am familiar with the Arab perspective on the war, whereby they believe a colonial entity of European Jewry invaded and stole their lands. I believe my understanding of what happened, based on research I've seen mostly in Benny Morris books but elsewhere as well, is much more balanced and reasonable. I think that you correctly point out that there were also pull factors for getting Jews out of Arab countries but dismiss the pull factors such as the Farhud in Iraq or anti Jewish riots in Aden, those are just 2 small examples. I am even not talking about living as second class citizens with dhimmi status. There are many such occurrences.
@@Firstname_Surname Dhimmi means protected not second class, also those ''second class citizens'' were accepted by the Ottomans when they were persecuted by fanatical catholic spaniards and were given positions in trade, doesent seem like second class to me.
@@hishamalaker491 Well sure, I don't deny that in many Muslim countries life was better for Jews than many periods in Europe's history.
That being said, I guess it depends what you mean by 'second class' and 'protected'. If I have to pay extra taxes to be protected from violence simply because of my religion, in the modern world we would probably define that as 'second class'. However, that doesn't mean it was viewed as morally reprehensible at that time of history.
All I am saying is that we need to be conscientious of history and its standards at their relevant time. Also not just focus on one group and ignore the other.
A 100 years ago was 1924. Israel was reestablished in 1948. The British took control from the Turks in 1917. All the old timers (Ben-Gurion, Sharett, Meir, etc.) originally had Palestinian passports.
At the time, it was called Israel-Palestine and I suspect the passports say that.
Reestablished?! There wasn't any israel ever before! Not agree? Proof I'm wrong.
@zg9946
And you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words which you shall speak to the children of Israel.”
Exodus 19:6
20 Then the anger of the Lord was hot against Israel; and He said, “Because this nation has transgressed My covenant which I commanded their fathers, and has not heeded My voice, 21 I also will no longer drive out before them any of the nations which Joshua left when he died, 22 so that through them I may test Israel, whether they will keep the ways of the Lord, to walk in them as their fathers kept them, or not.” 23 Therefore the Lord left those nations, without driving them out immediately; nor did He deliver them into the hand of Joshua.
Joshua 2:20
And who is like Your people, like Israel, the one nation on the earth whom God went to redeem for Himself as a people, to make for Himself a name-and to do for Yourself great and awesome deeds for Your land-before Your people whom You redeemed for Yourself from Egypt, the nations, and their gods?
II Samuel 7:23
They have said, “Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation, That the name of Israel may be remembered no more.”
Psalm 83:4
He will set up a banner for the nations, And will assemble the outcasts of Israel, And gather together the dispersed of Judah From the four corners of the earth.
Isaiah 11:12
@@zg9946 There was Judah, Israel etc. It's historical facts.
@Matthew_Loutner look up Shimon Perez applying for Palestinian Visa
Can you please ask them will you take a DNA test to see if you really are from this land.
not possible, the Middle East genetics are highly and extremely mixed. You can see if someone has Arabic blood, but from which region? not possible.
This is not how DNA test works 🙈
It won’t show where your nation originated from
DNA test origin comes from survey of the early test participants with questions “ what ethnicity you identify yourself with and where did your great grandparents lived”
So DNA test will show to Jews ethnicities like Ashkenazi Jewish, Sephardic Jewish etc but the place on the map will be the place where their ancestors lived for the last 7-10 generations
No matter if you are gypsy for example DNA test will show “gypsy” and some European place where 10 generations of their nation lived. But it doesn’t mean gypsies are genetically European. They originate in India.
Same with Jews. DNA test will show a place where they lived for the last few hundred years.
So regular DNA test won’t show you all the origin
To know the origin of some ethnic group scientists need to take a lot of samples and compare them to another’s
This is what scientists did with Jews and surprisingly European Jews are 35% Levantine 50% southern European 10-15% western and Eastern European
It’s open information in Google
Stop asking Jews about “DNA test” if you don’t know how this test works
My DNA test resulted with Ashkenazi Jew and North African Jew (majority Jewish DNA, small % of other). Jewish DNA is recognizable in tests. Why? Levantine mixed with diaspora genetic admixture.
That would not work because there are no DNA samples from 1200 bc to make comparison.
@@Matthew_Loutner there are DNA samples from 1200 BC
You just don’t know about it
“No one will make them leave their places.”7:37
Not a facepalm big enough for this. Amazing.
This guy still thinks is a perfect humanitarian.
He's a descendent of a land thief, hence thinks like one
They are pure brainwashed
Hopefully he will be proven wrong and the migratory cultists will be sent back to their 22 home countries
Change the word “no one” with “Hamas” “huzballah” “Iran”. Does it make sense to you now?
@@zeek2024 You are distorting the content of the video.
Can confirm my grandparents were there before Israel and have always identified as Palestinian. Wild how they have the nerve to say It was a land without people when those very people they believe don’t exist were the ones who helped them the most.
Na3m
The british mandate? Do you wish to restore the british empire?
@@dogbert52 the british just like israel were colonizers not the indigenous people
@@dogbert52 british were just like Ashkenazi who came from Europe and colonize it. The land belongs to Palestinians
you should do more research into the supposed 'palestinian' people. The first people to begin referring to the arabs of this region as palestinian was a very small group of reporters around the turn of the 20th century. The vast majority of arabs never identified as 'palestinians'. They didn't speak about themselves with that identity. They identified as 'Arab'. It was only after the PLO (along with the soviet union) started leveraging the palestinian national cause as a means of reactively delegitimizing the state of Israel that a larger percentage of arabs in this region started referring to themselves as palestinian. Think about that. Prior to the 1960's the vast majority of arabs never used the term palestinian to talk about themselves and saw their collective identity as being undifferentiated from any of the other Egyptian, Syrian, Lebanese, or other ethnic arabs of the region. Your grandparents are suffering from a revisionist historical memory and you're swallowing a national narrative of a people that historically never existed.
Throughout most of the 400 years of the ottman empire rule over that land it was called south syria . There were no borders between egept, Syria, lebanon, jordon and people migrated freely between those places. There were about 150,000 people living there. Those were jews, muslims, Christians, druze beduem ext
That's a straight up lie, no history book EVER called that place "south Syria" .
@@nabil5535 The Romans called it Syria Palestina , or Palestina Prima and Palestinia Secunda. Now tell the Syrians that they actually live in Palestina.
@@nabil5535 question is sooner, what the contemporary books and papers called the area, aside of sometimes, Palestine. I too have read many times about this South Syria... So whatever it is, its no isolated lie, IF so, its videly spread.
The fact is that people who identify as Palestinians have lived there for thousands of years.
@@XAndresGilActually the fact is. There were no people who defined themselves as Palestinains before 1967. Like it or not. And if there was who was the president. What was the language? Who are famous people that existed back then? Jesus. Nowdays everything is a "fact" without even tiny bit of research.
I'm appalled by how closely similar Israelis sound and behave to Germans in the 1900.
I see no similarities.
@@Matthew_Loutner Ur white, ofc u dont see any problems or similarities.
@@ahmvedakeelahmed ,who is haj amin al husseini?
you lot were allied with old adolf..
@@ahmvedakeelYou’re brown, you’re qualified to talk about the Germans.
They bulshit themselves very badly 😂😂😂😂
Corey, thanks! This is one of your best programmes. Excellent answers from a few of those interviewed!🎉
the land wasn't empty .
It was taken by force by the Jewish ancestors
We cannot manipulate history.
we need to accept that the past is not beautiful....and looking to build a new beautiful future,
To my Israelian and
Palestinian brothers.
.
Let's close the dark past...simply ❤
شكرا على الكلام الجميل تحيا فلسطين حره 👍🏻
In 1948 the newly legitimately established State of Israel was attacked by the surrounding Arab nations. When they won, the local Arabs were allowed to remain in their homes. Those that had left the area lost that right. That's the consequences of starting a war.
@@estherblashka9855 This is a good point...to politics
but I mean that what happened in past isn't our mistakes .
We're talking now.
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(If we need to go back in Hiss the land actually apes ownership...joke)
@@estherblashka9855 In 1948 european foreign colonizers that invaded Palestinian land created a colonial genocidal regime by exterminating Palestinians.
You are totally right.
So, just like the apartheid South Africa was dismantled, the same way apartheid israel will be dismantled.
It will be Palestine for everyone to live in.
This is a trick question, the source of the phrase in Hebrew has a double meaning in English:
It's not "a land without people"
But "a land without *a* People"
Meaning, there were some individuals and comunities in Israel, but they weren't a People.
The word people in English refers both for the plural of persons, and for an ethnic collective or nation, the Hebrew phrase refer to the last one (in hebrew it's a completely different word - עם instead of אנשים).
Exactly!
The meaning in English is not "double", it's just easy to mispronounce, misinterpret, and weaponize that misinterpretation. Even Corey says "land without people" at the beginning of the video rather than "land without a people".
Interesting!! Thanks
so? doesn’t justify taking it from its inhabitants
The word a is an indefinite article and it defines a coherent group.
When the Arabs conquered the entire Middle East and North Africa, there were plenty of other peoples there, and yet, it didn't stop them from occupying all this land and force Islam on them. That's how Egypt and Syria have "Arab Republic" in their names, although the indigenous Egyptians and Assyrians were not Arab.
@Rachelforpeace1 There is no Palestinian people. If you think there is, tell me something in the Palestinian language.
Exactly. That means that Palestinians are not Arab immigrants from the arabian peninsula but rather are indegenuos people who changed their language and religion under the rule of Arabs.
Arabs never changed the genetical structure of the populations they occupied.
That's why Egyptians are genetically connected to the ancient egyptians and only 16% of them are arabs (according to Dna tests studies)the same goes for Morrocans that are originally Amazigh. Syrians, lebanese and Palestinians are Levantine people that are connected to the Caananites, ancient Hebrews and all the populations that lived there through the years that's because they have been living there consistently for thousands of years. Unlike the jews that are found to be less connected to the ancient Hebrews than the Palestinians.
@Rachelforpeace1 Can you mention your sources, please? because it seems that this is complete bs to me.
@@user-ut7bx7fy2m nice try but science has the evidence you are wrong. the number of former Jews part or the so called falestinim is so minimal it doesn't make a case in regard your claim, sorry but gladly not sorry
@@timurtruman there is no american, australian, omani, syrian, tajik, venezuelan, colombian, brazilian people .
If you think there is, tell me something in their language.
Young man... you copy things from things you heard and repeat them without knowing .......
Claming that the land was empty, is a very common strategy of colonization guys!!! Look back at history, north and central America, south Africa, Australia! Same game
To put an end to it, here are the true facts.
Muslims live there for about 1,300 years. Most of them arrived from Arabia and were called Arabs. They arrived in the M.E and also to a region there called Palestina or Syria- Palestina, a name which the Romans gave to that region in about 135 AD after the last Jewish revolt against them. Jews also lived there for about 3,300 years. Some time they were the majority and sometime the minority but they lived there consecutively all those years.
All that time there was no state names Palestina, and no Arabs called Palestinians till about the 30th of the 20th Century.
At the 19th century this region, which was under Ottoman rule, underwent a transformation. Some European countries and also America gained a foothold there and opened diplomatic consulates there. Many Pilgrims and tourists started to arrive there and needed Accommodations. Many Churches started to be built and also monasteries and hospitals and other public buildings. All this needed skilled workers that the locals could not provide.
This demand for skilled workers caused a certain migration from other Muslim countries who joined the local Arabs and after a while their families joined them as well making their numbers to start increasing.
After those small waves of workers and builders making the Economy there better, many others started to follow as migrant workers. The main waves started to arrive in the last 150 - 100 years making them what is now known as "Palestinians".
It's very easy to trace where they arrived from by their surenames, like Massarwa and El-Fayumh from Egypt, Bagdadi from Iraq, Halabi from Syria and many more.
Just as the same time also waves of Jews started to arrive from Eastern Europe and from Yemen for their own reasons. They bought lands from the local Arab landlords and began to establish farms and small villages based on agriculture.
For lack of agricultural knowledge, the Jews had to employ local Arabs which caused more Arab migrants to arrive and work in Jewish farms and the others Assimilated among the local Arab population..
After the British got the Mandat over Palestine, and after the Jews succeeded with agriculture and with light Industry, more Jews also continued to arrive and the land began to flourish and so the Economics. The local Arabs didn't like it and started riots against the Jews killing many of them.
The Arabs also started a revolt against the British blaming them for letting Jews in.
The leader of this revolt was Hag Amin El-Husseini who was the Mufti - their spiritual leader. He was the first to call this region Palestine as a state, and the local Arabs, Palestinians, in order to united them under a nationality of their own.
This is the short history of the so-called Palestinians who claim living there for thousands of years.
Tel Aviv was empty in the past. It was sand dunes that were irigated and converted. Part of Haifa was swamp land taht was drained to be livable. The majority ofnthe places the z1on1st5 purchased were uninhabited or sparsely populated. This is what the phrase refers to.
Untrue.
There are several documentaries that prove that what you are saying is a total LIE.
hahaha what a joke of an answer
Except they eventually used forced to expel the indigenous people living in nearby villages then took their villages. The Z1onists continued to use the phrase AFTER the expulsion to hide the truth.
Regardless of what it was, it wasn't Israel's
@@Pure_Boxing It wasn't Palestine either, the country was under different empires until it because Brithe Mandate Palestine
Corey u gotta stop dropping these vids at midnight i’m in bed and trying to sleeep!
Same here
Same here
“They were kicked out of Jordan”. What’s that guy smoking? They’ve been there before the 1900s.
Great Question Stu
I always assumed "land without people" referred to the uninhabitable swamps in north Palestine/Israel which the migrant jews drained and turned into fertile land and kibbutzim. I'm shocked that many interviewed in the video have difficulty acknowledging that the Palestinians were there before them.
What you do not know is that most of the Muslims arrived there at that time as migrant workers from over all of the M.E.. They were called Arabs, not Plestinians. The name Palestinians was invented only about 40 years later.
In Jerusalm for instance the Jews were the majority.
@@simko8665 Its true that "Palestine" as a separate entity only came to existence when the British took over, and very likely the people there did not identify as Palestinians because they identified as part of the larger entity (Arab).
When the British took over Palestine there was less than 10% jews on the land (half of them natives identified as arabs too, other half were migrants who came in the 30 years that proceeded the arrival of the brits).
In Jerusalem there were jewish pilgrims who visit Palestine (during the ottomans time) some of the elderly decided to spend their last days there, but they were foreign pilgrims.
A number of international travelers surveyed the Holy Land during the late 19th Centurry, including Mark Twain who was doing a research for an American paper. He described the land as mostly desolate & sparsely populated except for a few cities such as Jerusalem. The entire population of all the areas of what would become the Palestine Mandate was less tha 100k in 1880.
lol, which part of Palestine did they visit?
So if say for example the population of Stockholm in 1880 was 100k or less, you are saying it is ok to move in and create a country because.... What exactly?
In 1890 there were 532,000 people, with 432,000 being Muslims, 57,000 being Christians, and 43,000 being Jews.... I don't know what you mean it was sparsely populated?... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)
@@MohamedAboElOlawho is colonizing and occupying sweden as we speak? Can you guess?
@@AKAK-WiQ Not Palestine. He visited the M.E. and also what you call it Palestine.
How are all these new videos filmed before the war. He stocked up on these videos
Legend has it he has footage going back to 1721
It's scary how confidently some people talk about history without knowing anything about it...
The simple explanation is that the phrase "a land without people" was said first in the 19th century when there were less then 500,000 people in the region of Palestine. Today there are around 25 million people in the same region. So at the time, although there were people in the land, most of the land had no people in it... So the point of that phrase was that Palestine had plenty of unpopulated space to establish a Jewish state, even with the few people that were there at the time.
You left out the most important part, a land without "a" people.
Bro are you re/tar/e/d ??
@@alanhughes8152 I looked it up again, and it turns out that there are different version of this phrase. I've known about the one without the "a", but it seems like the original did have the "a" before "people".
It seems people means a type of national & unified identity in this case.
That's kind of like saying that Alaska or Russia are a land without a people because huge amounts of the land are empty.
Compare the population to the land area, and it seems like not many are there.
Freedom, justice, equality and sovereignty for Palestinians and illegally oppressed occupied Palestine 🇵🇸
Is historic Anatolia illegally occupied by "Turkiye"?
They are free to go to the 22 other arab countries.
@anthonyr963 good point 🎉
@@anthonyr963 But the Israelis could also go back to the countries they came from.
@@eudyptes5046Jevvs are originally from J(ew)dea/the land of Israel. Both the Bible and the Quran say this.
They were not considered European enough, not even 75 years ago.
So basically they have no idea what they're talking about.
If you are not a nation, but just a people, you have no right to have a land?! What about USA, US, Switzerland? Vice versa is the thruth: humans rights belongs to individual humans not to any group of people. So any individual Jew have a right on land to live on, but Jews etnicity definitly has it not. Palestinians were all citizens of Palestina, including Jews, had right to live here, but Zionist made Machtargrif and usurped power by segregation and etnical cleansing. The only viable lasting solution is back to square one.
Woe to him who builds a city with bloodshed and establishes a town by injustice
Habakkuk
2:12
This is in the Tanakh, the Old Testament, The Jewish Scripture.
And it’s not exactly rocket science or nuclear physics.
Corey, I know you don’t cherry pick, but there is also logic to the order in which you show them, because most people don’t watch until the end. When you put the idiots up front it has a different effect.
95% of the interviewee’s were unable to comprehend that Palestinian is people as they’re like Gypsies in Europe with all the the racism package
It’s grown in population 20x so in comparison it was pretty empty but there were obviously people.
All MENA region grew x20.
I'm Algerian, the population of Algeria was 2 million in 1870, and Morocco the same. Egypt was 4 or 5 million. Today you can multiply by 20.
There were less than 450,000 Arabs living there before Israel. Compared to the rest of the region that is significantly underpopulated. No land is unpopulated
@@SnowsStorm1as far back as the 16th century, there was always a larger Arab population within Israel/Palestine than a Jewish one until the creation of Israel.
@@SnowsStorm1 450.000 is a lot for such a small territory and for that time. This is a high density, by that time's standards.
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There was less than 350,000 people in the land for 1000 years prior to 1860. The population of Cairo, Egypt (one city), over 300,000 people, was almost the same as the entire land that is now Israel.
That phrase just reflects the european mentality at the time and the fact that zionism took its roots in the same era and place as colonialism did like France and 3rd republic for example, and in many others cases of settler colonialism there was that myth that the land was empthy before settlers arrived. That's just more conveniant psychologicaly to come and monopolize a land if it is "empty".
Of course not.
Palestine was full of people of all faith before the creation of the zionist state.
I'm Egyptian and ,I like the guy who speak in logic between 10:00 to 14:00
both of Arab & jews 10% of them are originated in Israel/Palestine
and 90% of both are migrated from either Arab world or all over the world
they are equal ..
No they are not equal!
Colonizers can not be the victim!
are you some expert to know that 90% of Palestinians came from elsewhere ?
@@user-ut7bx7fy2m The Jews can adopt the same claim with the Arabs and accuse the Arabs of being occupiers when the region was occupied, Islamized and Arabized when Muhammad was born 1400 years ago.
@@liberalegypt Not just this region. They, Arabs, went (conquered) all the way to Spain (Córdoba caliphate) on the west and all the way to Central Asia on the east. So they should be the last people to open their mouth about occupation.
@@timurtruman
It is true, so I am surprised that they are talking about colonialism while they are well versed in it
Lol you confused them with the way you asked the question it wasn't clear if you meant to the Jewish people or the Arab people
Nomads 😂 my ancestors on both sides have been in the same town for over a thousand years. My ancestors were the earliest farmers on earth, literally the antithesis of nomads.
You are not all Palestinians though
Bravo, a very good question. A good sampling, reflecting the complexities of viewpoints on the subject.
He didn't ask it well and the answers are embberessing as Israeli, people here don't know the history of the land.I don't think it represent the average Israeli...
The numbers were inflated much more than they were, there were many swamps in the land, Jews also left their homes because of the war. Those who lived in the north of the land were classified as settling in Syria (as southern Syria as the Syrians claim). The same in the West Bank, which was attributed to Jordan. Even in Gaza there are not 2.5 million today. It is much less.
absolutely good answers! everybody knows that "Palestinian people" was created by Arafat ant the KGB.
How about the first answer where he thought that there was always Jews in the land but he doesn't have the "facts" about whether there was anyone else?
Everybody? 99% of the world knows the land belongs to the indigenous Palestinians and not those Europeans who came in 1948
@@ghst4487 you should do more research into the supposed 'palestinian' people. The first people to begin referring to the arabs of this region as palestinian was a very small group of reporters around the turn of the 20th century. The vast majority of arabs never identified as 'palestinians'. They didn't speak about themselves with that identity. They identified as 'Arab'. It was only after the PLO (along with the soviet union) started leveraging the palestinian national cause as a means of reactively delegitimizing the state of Israel that a larger percentage of arabs in this region started referring to themselves as palestinian. Think about that. Prior to the 1960's the vast majority of arabs never used the term palestinian to talk about themselves and saw their collective identity as being undifferentiated from any of the other Egyptian, Syrian, Lebanese, or other ethnic arabs of the region.
@@shaikatz3816 I am not going to believe your zionists propaganda
@@shaikatz3816 The same os true of Israeli identity and Israeli Hebrew. Both of which were invented less than a 100 years ago. The people in Palestine may have been colonized for centuries but that doesn't mean they weren't a people with a language and culture before the Zionist settlers expelled and exterminated them to maintain cultural and political domination by one religion.
6:08 this guy !!! This guy is my man, as a Palestinian, I would live in peace with him, I’m even willing to defend him in battle if it happens! I’m also a 10 generation Palestinian (west bank) I only know that they want is to flee to Jordan, we just demolished our 150 years old home to build a 5 stories building, the sad truth is, the majority of Israelis are living an illusion that we popped up from the ground, or kicked out from jordan ! Where in history a population of 6 million people were expelled ? I only know the other-way around , the million+ Palestinian refugees living abroad.
Injustice will bring more distraction
WAKE UP world!
Clearly there was a people living on the land of Palestine that had a common language, culture, economy and a shared history. "The bride is beautiful, but she is married to another man."
Yasser Arafat in his biography said that he created the Palestinian people in order to resist Israel.
but that's irrelevant to the question, were the arabs in the land of palestine / judea when the zionist movement started and when Israel was founded.
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Arabs have 99.9% of the land plus 21% of Israel is Muslim Arab. Either way, that is far more than Arabs were ever promised.
Zionists say things like "Theres no palestine and no palestinians either" then claim that all you want is peace and deny your goal is to push out all the arabs in the palestinian territoires and take the land. Own your real position
@@abuansari05 there were jews aswell so what?
No, the one who gave them this name was therir leader in the 30th Hag Amin EL Husseni . He called the Arabs there to start ressist the British. In order to make the Arabs there feel part of it he started to call them Palestinias to make them proud with their new nationlity. The rest is a Palestinian false history.
Corey, your translation is wrong.
It's supposed to be "nation" , not "people". Just as sometimes you'd translate to "state"/"country" instead of "land", as some people often use.
By "people" you talk in more general terms. There were humans living of course, but they weren't a nation that is the majority. It was a mix of many people.
The only nation that had a consistent living on the land which wasn't foreign to it - was the people of Israel.
"The only nation that had a consistent living on the land" was 3% of the population in 1880 when the zionist movement (from outside Palestine) began.
Bingo!
Listen, if you are going to be a colonizer, just admit you are a colonizer like the Americans. No need for the silly PR slogans like “Land for a people….blah blah blah”
Palestinians are jordanians, Syrians, lebanesse and egeptians. Throughout the whole ottman empire rule there were no borders between these places. That is why it was fair that the arabs of the levant were allocated these countries: lebnon, Syria, jordan and in such they recieved 90% of the levant. The jews recieved 10%, the land of israel, that was their only historical homeland.
stfu, My hometown in Nablus is Arab not Jewish, why should we be kicked of it because some Jews said so? Why tf should we listen to foreign occupiers in the first place?
@hishamalaker491 if you think the jews are foreign to the area you really need to learn history. The jews lived there for 2000 years before the Muslim came along. There were no Palestinian in that land for thousands of years.
@@hishamalaker491why should the jews be kicked out of their only historical, religious and cultural homeland? Jews are from judea.
@@sh25098you guys are not Jews😂😂 you are Zionist☺️ it’s not the same thing😂😂
@@sh25098 Yes. Another way to see it - Jews receive *one sixth OF one percent* of the middle east.
איזו בושה ובורות של חלק מהמשתתפים אני לא מאמין
😂😂😂 free Palestine 🇵🇸
What shame. The land was underpopulated and underdeveloped. Those are facts.
@@JustinYiseverywhere From hamas
@@Savage-hj1ih can't read. Not in English.
There was actually nothing here the jews build the country
The phrases "a land without people" and "a land without a people" differ in meaning due to the use of the indefinite article "a." I wonder if the question was also asked this way in Hebrew.
1. A land without people: This phrase suggests a land that is entirely devoid of any inhabitants. It implies that no individuals live there at all. The focus is on the absence of people in general.
2. A land without a people: This phrase implies that the land does not have a nation, i.e. a specific, distinct group of people who identify collectively as "a people." It may not be entirely uninhabited, but it lacks a unified group with a shared identity, culture, or national consciousness.
In summary, "a land without people" emphasizes complete emptiness of human presence, while "a land without a people" suggests the absence of a cohesive, identifiable community or nation within that land.
They're evading the question with all means possible.
The Palestinians were always on the land, most of the people on that land were pagan thousands of years ago, then most of them became christian under roman rule, then most became muslim under muslim rule. Jews were there for thousands of years too in smaller numbers but weren't the only ones that lived there. And the Palestinians are descendants of the people that lived there thousands of years ago. Just because the Palestinian's ancestors became christian or muslim doesn't mean they waived their right to the land. And a jew from Poland or Brooklyn doesn't have the right to go back, occupy and kick a christian or muslim Palestinian of the land 3000 years later. Makes no sense man.
thank you so much for saying this
Damn right! I know this is how all peoples, counties and customs came about, but I just have a problem with it happening NOW. Everyone stay put! Stop being human!
Actually, I think we should go a step further and we all move back to Congo and Uganda and abandon all these colonialist customs we have come up with over the past few thousands of years. We had a good run, but you are right, it doesn’t make sense. I’ll see you in Kinshasa 😉
@@Randy-lg1qo what are you yapping about? Are you really trying to justify the colonization of Palestinians because "it's part of being human"? Do you want to justify murder too because humans have done it since the beginning of time? What if it was you, your family and country that were colonized? Not sure you'll be too understanding then.
Sonunda biri haklı konuşmuş
If the Jews buys his property and pays for his property with legitimate money, he has every right to go live on his own property.
That has nothing to do with where he came from.
Seems like Israelis have their own version of history
Many of them know the history as Palestinians do.
@@simko8665 all but one person couldn’t even answer the question
@@az6802 I agree with you that many Israelis do not know about their history of the last 150 years in that region but they know very well their history of the last 2000 - 3000 years.
أغلب اليهود و الفلسطينيين لهم أصول و أسماء عائلية تدل على الانتماء إلى مناطق جغرافية بعيد جدا فلسطين.. حتى بتحليل ADN كل الناس مختلطة الأعراق .. لذلك تبقى الهويات أشياء نسبية .. عدم التفاهم على العيش المشترك بحقوق متساوية هو مضيعة للوقت فقط..
الفلسطينيين بالمتوسط عندهم ٧٠ بالمئة حمض نووي متطابق مع الكنعانيين
بينما الاسرائيليين ٤٠ بالمئة فقط
او حتى اقل ٢٠-٣٠ بالمئة
Wow common sense in Arabic! I wish the majority of Palestinian think this way there would be peace
غير حقيقي ب كتابتك العربي الخره.
الفلسطنين بتحليل ال DNA من فلسطين.
الاسرائلين.
معظمهم من دول شيوعيه سابقه.
عائلة كنعان وعائلة مقدسي وعائلة سكيك و عائلة غزاوي و عائلة الرمحي من أين ؟ ما كلها تشير أنهم من قلب فلسطين. اما عن اليهود الاروبيين الأشكيناز أو السفاردييم فهم من إسبانيا و غرب أروبا
"A land without *A* people" - *A* people, i.e., without a _nation_ particular to the land. The only possible point of contention with this phrase is that the land did have association with a particular nation: the Jewish nation.
Complicated question 'i have no answer '
Bro disable the auto noise cancellation on the mic. It kills your audio.
100 years ago Palestine was a region not a people. There were Jewish people living in the region of Palestine. Palestinian identity only came after Israel as a Jewish state was established.
In 1880 there was 3% of jews in the territory that later became the British mandate. I don't know the percentage of Arabs at the time, but I guess it was 80% - 90%.
Who had the right to build a political entity on that land?
@@psalux18963 Yes, but Palestinian political identity and will of the people for sovereignty came only after Israel was established.
@@tombuddy100 Who cares about this?
Israel is the only "quasi" democracy of the middle east, so that many arab israeli citizens are happy to be israeli citizens, but the arab people of palestine (once the great majority of palestine inhabitants) wished to become citizens of an arab nation, either Palestine, or Jordan, or Syria, and certainly not citizens of a jewish state.
@@psalux18963 Why don't they try to become citizens of Israel?
I mean Anatolian Greeks, Armenians, and Assyrians no longer want to "liberate" historic Anatolia from "Turkiye". They seem to have accepted reality that "Turkiye" occupies entire Anatolia.
@psalux18963 who had the right to build a political entity on that land? Not matter how small any entity in that land did have the right to establish their own identity. Plus, it's not just about numbers, the Jews also had strong cultural and religious ties to that land. The Jews succeeded at something the Arabs didn't even think of doing, building their own state on a land they have deep connections with. In my view, Israel has a right to exist right where it is.
Palestinian arabs answers to peace initiatives:
1897: No
1917: No
1947: No
1948: War
1949: No
1956: War
1967: War
1973: War
1978: No
1982: No
1991: Probably not.
1995: We'll agree to wait to say no later
1999: No, Intifada
2005: No
2009: We're not even gonna answer
2015: No
2023: *October 7 Massacre*
Who would ever agree to a partition
Steal from me and then force me to accept it as a fact then blame me for not agreeing with you
That's not a peace treaty that's an armistice
A People = Nation/National group
People = Humans
There were people there of course, sparsely populated. But there was not ‘a’ People with a capital P, implying an established nation or any semblance of national infrastructure. There is a difference in the meaning here.
When talking about "a people" in the sense of a nation, then no, the palestinian arabs did not constitute a peoplehood, but they became one through their struggle against Zionism. When talking about "people" in the sense of inhabitants, then of course, arabs, turks, europeans, jews, christians and muslims lived in Palestine.
Additionally, the phrase was rarely used by zionists but extensivly by antizionists who try to profit from this confusion of terms. "Oh the zionists say there haven't been people living there, how stupid is zionism!"
I want you to ask the Palestinians:
If you could go back in time, would you wish that Hamas would not attack Israel on October 7?
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That's an incomplete question ...
Oct 7 was a calculated act , born out of desperation. As of oct 6 the pals had been thrown under the bus ... By israel, the west, the pathetic Sunni Arabs, and the world at large only paid lip service to their plight. Hamas decided oct 7 was necessary ... They anticipated Israel's violent reaction.... Counted on it to draw attention to what's happening to the Palestinians... And in that they've succeeded thanks to Israel's bloodlust and carrying out a genocide...
It will not be the same for israel from now on.
Israel made a catastrophic blunder ... Which will undermine it's future. ... How severely, depends on what israel does from now on
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You can say that if we went back in time, we would have wished that October 7 would have happened without all this nonsense. The question does not aim to know the reasons behind yes or no. The goal is only to know whether there is regret or not.
@@ravisingh7928100% correct, oct 7 have exposed the Palestinian problem to the world. Israel want to hide it but now whole world understand how Jews handling it. It have lot of implications in the world.
@@liberalegyptit’s still a dumb question because you’re stating as if they were at peace before October 7th and cherry picking points in times too justify a genocide happening. That same year over 200 Palestinians were unalived before October 7th
@@liberalegyptthere is an institute for public opinion statistics, shkaki isntitute, you can goo gle it in ar abic and
See whats their opinions vis a vis the 7th of october.
Old man at the end was the only one with an informed opinion
right... there was no Bethlehem, Nazareth, Lod, Akko, Yaffa, etc before 1917, it was just a wasteland
Except that he contradicted himself when he talked about Palestinians. In the beginning, he said at first there were only tribes and no nations, and then those tribes united to form nations. Towards the end, when asked whether there's a Palestinian nation, he said no, they're not a nation, just a unification of tribes.
@@piruz3243 They are not united. They hate each other.
Ask the average Arab in the West Bank what they think of the Gazans. They despise them.
This is one of the reasons the Arabs in the West Bank didn't join the current war
@piruz3243 Because they haven't established as state yet. What is Palestine really? Its an idea. I think there are Palestinians, but so far there is no Palestine. Seriously what version of Palestine would even come about because their are so many disagreeing factions on what it would become, most of its famous elements are British in origin, the name, part of the borders, the flag, the kufiya. Even the history isn't straight amongst the people. It's like an identity crisis.
@hamiddawgg He said there were some places settled and some not. Where were the people in Tel aviv beforehand? It was just sand.
3:57 He's telling, that the Palestinians were expelled from a lot of places, then it must be something wrong with them.
Whereas counting states, that has expelled Jews throughout history is antisemitic and offensive
*whistle Another spicy one.
5:59 Of course they wouldn't accept a minority of the land and what land they get being in 3 pieces while the Jewish land would all be in one piece.
17:35 Nonsense.
Ukraine occupation is unacceptable, from the first day , Palestine occupation is acceptable for 76 years. A wicked world we are living in. The US government and Europe have double standard, Extremely sad.
Many people don't understand the meaning of this sentence.It means that in that time the area was part of the Ottoman Empire and there wasn't there a separate national identity or there wasn't any national movement for a creation of an independent national state. It doesn't mean that there were no people who lived in the area.Even in the Antartic there are some people who live there but there is no national movement in the Antartic. So 150 years ago there wasn't any palestinian national movement which wanted to create a palestinians state. Also the map of Palestine with those certain borders (from the river to the sea)was created by the British Empire when they defated the Ottoman Empire
The arabs most certainly wanted a state in what is modern day Israel, but again even if they didn't, they were there, but were kicked out due to zionism requirng the jewsih majority.
@@abuansari05 well in that time the arab national movement didn't really exist or it was very week.The modern israeli culture is also influenced by jews from arabs cukture(mizrahi jews).Personally my great gradfather was a jew from Syria who was kicked off from just 100 km away that today is Israel and my other family members were living here before the modern zionism movement but noone of them define themselves as palestinians and don't see the zionist movrment as a colonalist movement.There are many arabic states I don't understand this logic why every km2should be an arabic state in the middle east.I can agree that the definition "jewish"state can be problematic (because its not clear what does it mean)but even in Israel there are discussions about this.As an Israeli i prefer just an israeli state(hebew state) rather than a jewish one.And of course Israel is the home of every ctitizens including arabs druze etc.
@@Pillango-yx2js What would you think about moving the Palestinian identity towards some form of Israelite identity, in a fashion similar to the Hasmoneans with the Idumaeans (hopefully less violent)
@@tyrone2127 i totally support the idea.I define myself firs as israeli than jewish as many israelis.The jewish national identity is problematic because its come together with religion and i think that in modern times there should be a separation between religious and national identity.
@@abuansari05 I agree, The Hashemite family members who took over Hejaz, Jordan, Syria and Iraq, I'm sure could have found another cousin, nephew, etc to be the king of Palestine. Or the Saud family (after they conquered Hejaz etc.) could have found someone and made another Arab state. The WWI allied countries promised an Arab homeland and a Jewish homeland and communicated this many times to the Arabs who could have had a unified nation from the Arabian peninusla to Iraq. The Allies promised homelands for both the Arabs and Jews for their assistance in WWI. After WWI Palestine was ruled by Great Britain under a mandate given to them by the world, to establish a Jewish state. When the Allies met in San Remo Italy in 1920 and when the League of Nations (U.N.) met in 1924 they voted on creating the Jewish homeland. The Jewish homeland's borders would be established based on the universal principle of international law known as 'uti possidetis juris. Newly formed sovereign states inherit the internal borders of their preceding sovereign entities (the land administered by the U.K. under the mandate). In Israel's case, this included the Gaza Strip, the City of Jerusalem, Judea, and Samaria. Being an empire the U.K didn't think of "consulting" the 100,000 Muslims, Christians, Druze, Jews or other groups who live there at the time about what they wanted. So the U.K. (as had the Ottomans) allowed Jewish refugees fleeing pogroms and persecuation to seek shelter and resettle in Palestine, eventually becoming the majority in areas (and under a U.N. suggestion in 1947 the Jewish people accepted a plan where the homeland would only include the lands where they were the majority. The other part of the mandate would have been an Arab country, what's interesting is that Israel since then has tried many times for the Arabs to establish their own state in Gaza and Judea and Samaria and they've refused. In 1956 Israel could have relocated the Arabs in Gaza to the Sinai, or in 67, or in 73, they could have relocated the Arabs in Gaza and the Westbank to the Sinai (creating their own state), or in 1985 moved them to Lebanon. Jordan and Kuwait did it.
16:26 wow , discusting. These people so silly
1:59 Hanna Bisharat built his house in Jerusalem in 1926 for his large family (pictured in black and white). After they were expelled during the Nakba, Golda Mabovitch🇺🇦,the PM of Israel who declared "there were no such thing as Palestinians" stole this home and used it as her residence.
When he doesnt want to answer a direct question about arab presence in Palestine, he claims "I don't know". Classic lie.
So do you always go around calling people liars with no proof?
Corey it is not good time frame ,we are talking about 1890-1910 not 1920
The area of Israel was by most account desolate and empty according to some non Jewish historians, except of course places like Jerusalem and Haifa and maybe some small settlements of nomadic people's,, Tel-Aviv was built on empty desert land for example
Mark Twain remarked about how desolate this region was in the 1860s in his book Innocents Abroad. He traveled there then.
In 1890 census there were 532,000 people living in Palestine, with 432,000 of them Muslim, 57,000 Christian, and 42,000 Jews. 532,000 at that time is hardly sparsely populated and with Jews making up less than 8% of the population.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)
@John-od7ps it was sparsely populated compared to now, and underdeveloped. There are approximately 14 million people living in the region (Isreal + Gaza +West Bank) today with about 7 million Israelis and 7 million Arabs. In the last 150 years, Jews invested a lot in the region, which brought growth and jobs and the influx of more Arabs to the region in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Then closer to WWII, in their greatest time of need, Jewish people faced strict quotas in immigration there because the British were trying to appease the Arabs, being that the British had their hands full with Germany. Conversely, Arabs continued to migrate there.
@@John-od7psand 75 % of it was property of the Ottoman Empire which they conceded to the Allies in the in the Treaty of Sevres after WWI. Most of the Arabs residing there weren't landowners, but tenant farmers and nomadic.
@@John-od7ps What you do not know is thst most of the Muslim arrived there at that time as migrant workers. Short time before their arrivle there there were much less of them. Now they claim living there for ages.
@@John-od7ps Well lets see. In 1823, the population of Aleppo was approximately 250,000, Cairo had over 200,000, Jerusalem was around 8000 people!
Jordan is 80% Palestinian today. It was originally created for the arabs of the levant - meaning for the Palestinians.
That should be their country + part of the west bank like cities as nabalus and beit lechem . The rest should be israel.
Palestinians and Israelis need to find a way to live side by side if not it will be an endless w.a.r
Agreed apart from Nablus. Nablus should have it's name returned to be Shechem and the Samaritans should get their homes back and the Arbas living their should move out to Jordan or mount gzirim next door.
Most importantly, the world should be made to know that it was the Samaritan Jews of Shechem that invented Knaffe and that the Arans stole the claim to it. Only then justice will be served.
It's less than 50% actually
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Three part question:
1. What is the most important city in Palestine/Israel?
2. (Without looking) what do you think the Population and demographics were in that city in 1844, more than 100 years before the existence of the Sate of Israel?
3. (After looking) What was the actual Population and demographics were in that city in 1844, more than 100 years before the existence of the Sate of Israel?
the Quran mentioned the killers of Palestinian babies, children and women and revealed their cowardice in a perfect and astonishing way and this is what we see today with our own eyes
“ Surely they have greater dread for you in their hearts than for Allah. That is because they are a people who are devoid of understanding. [13] They will not fight you all except within fortified cities or from behind walls. Their violence among themselves is severe. You think they are together, but their hearts are diverse. That is because they are a people who do not reason.[14]” (Quran 59: 13 And 14)
There are hundreds of archaeological sites in israel with jewish history and finds that attest that the jews lived there. There are 0 Palestinian archaeological sites in israel. Hebrew is the only cannaites language that survived and the jewish holidays and calendar are centred around the harvest cycle of the land of cannan.
The jews are the original cannaites people of that land. They lived there for 2000 years before the Muslims came along and colonialized the land.
Ancient Israelites are the Palestinians who converted to Christianity and Islam and some remain jews while these Israelis are just European converts
@@ghst4487 Maybe a few but nah, not a thing. The large majority of Palestinians are descendants of Arabs that came to the land in the 1900's look for a better life.
@@ghst4487 jews are jews. They are not European converts. DNA tests show that they have levantin dna
@@ghst4487Israelis are not just European converts I guess you are banned on Google 🙈 do your research
Palestinian Muslims share more than a half of their DNA with people from outside of Palestine. They are literally 50% descendants of colonisers who claim to be Canaanite
Palestinian Christian and Samaritan Jews are much more indigenous
Researches says Israeli Jews and Palestinians on average both 50% Canaanite
That is because the Israelites destroyed everything belonging to the ancestors of Palestinians, like the Canaanites.
(12) Palestine that never was - things in the name of who say so: in moments of frankness, Arab leaders admit that 'Palestine' and 'Palestinians' are a false political invention without foundation. Below is a transcript of the words of the Hezbollah spy, intellectual and former MK Dr. Azmi Bashara, when he was interviewed in fluent Hebrew by Yaron London on Channel 2:
Azmi Bashara - There is no Palestinian people:
"I don't think there is a Palestinian nation at all, I think there is an Arab nation and I've always thought that way. I haven't changed my mind either and I don't think there is a Palestinian nation, I think it's a colonial invention, when were there Palestinians? Where did that come from? I think there is an Arab nation. Although My determined struggle against the occupation never made me a Palestinian nationalist. I think that until the end of the 19th century, Palestine was the great south of Syria."
Hamas interior minister admits so too:
Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that. More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri ["Egyptian"]. Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis.
Who are the Palestinians? We have many families called Al-Masri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo, from Dumietta, from the North, from Aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians. We are Arabs. We are Muslims. We are a part of you.
(13) The rewriting of history - the 'Palestinians' are the descendants of the Canaanites: As mentioned, in an effort to deny the historical right of the Jewish people to their land, the 'Palestinian' lie industry invents its own history. The chairman of the Palestinian Authority, Abu Mazen, stood before the UN Security Council in February 2018, and without blinking an eye he wrote history with false delusions: "We are the native citizens of the land - for 5,000 years the Palestinians have been on this land, the Palestinians are the descendants of the Canaanites," and he He continues confidently: "This is the historical truth and no one will change it or rewrite it." When it comes to Jerusalem, the 'Palestinians' undergo an upgrade - they are no longer just Canaanites, they are the Hibbuses, the people from whom, according to the Bible (Samuel 2:5), David conquered Jerusalem, the capital of his kingdom. The attempt to root this lie was heard even in the Knesset plenary hearings from his mouth of MK Taleb Alsana:
Talev Elsanae (RAM-Taal): "Also the Jebusites - you know, this is Kfar Salem. That's the name of the Jebusites. Who are these Jebusites? These are the Palestinians, who were here all the time. This is a historical fact. 6,000 years ago the Palestinians were here." .
When A MK Michael Ben Ari went up to speak after him, he answered him:
Michael Ben-Ari (National Union): "They are rewriting history, they don't have a history. Knesset member Talev Alsana will come and tell where his history is. When he searches for history and he writes: "Canaanites", where does he get that from? From the Bible of The Jews! One day he is a Canaanite, the next he is a Jebusite."
On another occasion, he asked to find out with Alsana the nature of the Jebusite heritage that he claimed to be carrying, he asked: "Sir, maybe you know one word in Jebusite? What Jebusite custom do you keep at home?" But it turns out that historical facts are for the weak. On the other hand, the lie is a legitimate and desirable weapon in the battle to shape the mind. One of the founders of this lie is none other than Sheikh Dr. Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who preached the execution of terrorist attacks against Jews of all kinds, and the destruction of Israel. In his book, 'Jerusalem is the concern of every Muslim' he lays the foundations for the imagined world of lies. According to him, the Arabs They are the Canaanites, while the land is not Canaan but Palestine:
The Canaanite Arabs and others lived in Palestine generations upon generations before the arrival of Abraham from Iraq, together with his wife Sarah, when she was seventy-five years old. When he was one hundred years old, Isaac was born to him, he died at the age of one hundred and seventy-five years without having a handbreadth (land) in Palestine.
This fiction, which seeks to deny the legitimacy of the State of Israel, has become part of the curriculum of Arab students in the State of Israel. In response to an urgent query by MK Mohammad Baraka regarding: "Disqualification of a history book that includes the Palestinian narrative at the 'Shaar Hanegev' high school", Minister of Education Gideon Sa'ar cited the 'narrative' they are taught in Arab state education: "The Arabs - the Hebrews preceded the Jews, And when King David, peace be upon him, conquered Jerusalem, he emptied Jebus of its inhabitants."
(14) The Land of Israel in Islam and the Koran: Since the beginning of the Zionist movement, some of the main Islamic scholars have been engaged in denying the connection between the people of Israel and the Land, while denying history and rewriting it. As mentioned, the most prominent among them is Sheikh Dr. Yosef Al-Qardawi, in his book 'Jerusalem is the business of every Muslim', denies the connection of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, and accuses that the Jews "usurped our land, the land of Islam, by exterminating its original inhabitants". Similar statements can be found in Sheikh Dr. Ahmed Alsharabatsi, one of the senior lecturers at Al Azhar, who writes in a Halacha ruling that the Jews are considered enemies of Islam and must be fought because they have usurped Islamic Arab Palestine. In the Hamas charter drafted by Ahmed Yassin, he wrote, among other things: "Palestine is a sacred Islamic property (waqf) until the end of time [...] Every Muslim must wage jihad until the land is redeemed."
These emphatic statements are in complete contradiction to the Quran and Islamic traditions. About ten times the Koran refers to the Holy Land, and in most cases it is determined that it was intended for the people of Israel. On the other hand, there is no statement or hint in the Koran that the land was intended for Muslims or 'Palestinians'.
A clear example can be found in Sura 7 (The Children of the Wall), in which it is said: "(137) We assigned to the people who were persecuted the east and west of the land on which we gave our blessing, and the good word of your Lord concerning Israel was fully fulfilled, this as a reward for their standing in the strength of the Spirit."18 And the commentator of the Koran Muhammad Kartavi, explains: "The children of Israel inherited Alsham [...] Allah gave Alsham an inheritance to the children of Israel [...] and the good word of your Lord about the children of Israel, which promised to establish them in the land [...] was fully fulfilled." The connection of the people of Israel to what the Koran calls the 'Holy Land' and in Islamic traditions is known as 'Al-Sham', appears again and again in the Koran and in the Islamic traditions of many of the Islamic scholars. It goes without saying that the terms 'Palestine' and 'Palestinians' were unknown to the Koran or the Islamic scholars, until the revival of the Zionist movement at the beginning of the 20th century
Melech ha Olam malot adonai Yeshua Baruch atah Tsevaot , bo Yhvh Eyeh Asher Eyeh, Ruach ha kadosh bin Ha Olam malcuto bo Eretz Yehudim bin Yisrael bin Yacob, bo Yeshua Hamaschiach
I am not a native Hebrew speaker but I wanted to share what I know. Bless you all of you. I love Gd Yeshua king of Israel.
Simply, 100 years ago the area was inhabited by a majority of Palestinians before the Jewish immigration. How difficult is it to say this?
That still doesn't give them the ultimate forever right to the land. Jews lived there for thousands of years and were unjustly kicked out .
There were no palestinians. There were people who came to Palestine region for various reasons ( especially during Ottoman rule) from Egypt, current day Jordan, Afganistan, Lebanon and etc. They only started calling themselves as palestinian in 1960s.
The Palestinian people were born in Moscow at Lubyanka in 1967. and 100 years ago different people lived here - Jews, Bedouins, Muslims, Christians, Turks, Armenians, Greeks.
This terminology can be fluid, _n'est ce pas?_ There are also Arabs who are Jewish, are there not? Does one still say that they are Arabs? Perhaps this depends on the one defining them. including how they might define themselves? 💙🧿
israelis almost convinced me that palestinians were pure arabs but i looked at their dna they're the same as lebanese, canaanite. Not Arabian.
U yap about this in every video
A bit of history of the imaginary PALESTINIAN STATE:
1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state
2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.
5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.
14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE
And? If we are honest, then Israel is as fake as Palestine. People who hadn’t been there for Millenia don’t have more birthright then Arabs who lived on the land once the Arabs conquered the region which had been a continuity in the Millenia that the Jews were in Diaspora. Humanity moves. Land is no one’s. Birthrights are rubbish, what isn’t rubbish, is a people in the 20th century being put into a diaspora of their own because those who hadn’t any prominence in the region for millennia wanted to return. All these 19th century nationalists, have no real claim for anything. There is no Germany, Italy, Palestine and Israel. Nationalists just wanted them to exist. David Ben Gurion is as legitimate as Yasser Arafat.
@@taddersauce3672 You are wrong, not all Jews were in the diaspora.
Most of them were, but there was always a Jewish presence in this land.
The Jewish people are the indigenous people of this land, and they are the people who own this land.
The Arab Muslims (who started to identify as "palestinians" only in 1964) were offered many times peace, but they don't want peace. They want to take all over the land.
Their methods to take over the land of others and invade are very similar to their methods in India and Serbia.
Israel is not their first victim and certainly not their last
@@dani-ks9cg Isn’t that a rather moot point. A few Jews lived in the Holy Land prior to the 20th century, okay, whatever. Arabs live en masse where Jews once stood. When the Jewish state was created the livelihoods of all these people were put into question. Now these people haven’t sovereign land. For 75 years they’ve been damned. I mean can u imagine being a Palestinian in the West Bank or Gaza? Sounds horrible. Zionism is as fake and as real as Pan Arabism. The Europeans drew up your borders in the modern Middle East. Britain made the conditions for Israel and Palestine. None of the two have any basing on history that makes them anymore legitimate than the other, so either the British take back their mandate or both Israel and Palestine exist. A millennia of history is retconned when Europeans draw lines on a map. There is no Palestine. There is no Israel. There is a Israel. there is a Palestine. A modern nation state based on anything that isn’t within a span of a few centuries, is completely nonsensical. The Kingdom of Judah means nothing to the nation state of Israel, the phillestines mean nothing to the nation state of Palestine. Theodore Herzl means everything to Israel. Yasser Arafat, the Arab League, PLO, FATAH, HAMAS, Nasser, the Hashemites they mean everything to Palestine. Israel is as baseless as Palestine.
@@dani-ks9cgJewish are native people😂😂😂😂😂 Jewish are children of Jacob, jacob was grand child of Abraham and Sara. Both are born in present Iraq. 😂😂😂😂😂 don't tell lies specially children of god
@@os-vp1hv Jacob and his father were born in Canaan.
The anti Israeli factions are really making a ridiculous claim here, with the accusation being that the phrase must be taken literally. While there is no place that is entirely unpopulated, the holy land prior to 1917 was severely underdeveloped and severely underpopulated
These whyt ppl are Europeans, the natives are mslims and Arabs.
This whyt ppl are Europeans, the natives are mslims and Arabs
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣there is videos of Palestine from 1910 go look at it plus the whole world was under develop in 1917🤣🤣🤣🤣😎😎
Mslims and Arabs are the natives
Not these whyt ppl
There were no such thing as Palestinians, it was never a people, there was no difference between Syrian Jordanians and Arabs living in the land of Israel during the Ottoman Empire, so called Palestinians is a colonial appointed name to a region not a people, there were Arabs they definitely, and they should have the right to live in Israel, but don’t get to make a state that never existed before.
Most of the satates were created recently, with your logic Italy, Germany, Argentina, México, Brasil, Bolivia, United States, Canada never should be created.
If it was a land without people, then what was the Nakba?
Its the failed attmepted genocide by the arnabz on the joooose in 1948
So, basically there were no people in the land of Palestine except:
Arabs
Bedouins
Druze
Circas
Phoenicians
Etc…..
In other words “Palestinians”!!!! 😂
It could be because these were not Europeans
There Jews and Christians too. I think it would be fair to call the whole bunch Palestinians.
Those were never "natives" in Palestine. Following history, you can see that since the first century, the whole land was occupied by almost all the empires that ever existed. This led to large-scale deportations of most of the population at the time and the immigration and settlement of other nations. You can look this up. Furthermore, you can't find any individual referring to themselves as "Palestinian" before 1948 because this nationality never existed even as an idea before the beginning of the 20th century. Most Muslim Palestinians (94%) came into Palestine from surrounding countries, especially Egypt and Jordan. DNA evidence shows these connections, supporting the narrative of mass immigration into Palestine from the region in recent centuries. Another example is the large number of Palestinians with last names indicating their origins, such as "Al Masri" (the Egyptian) or "Al Garbiya" (a city in Yemen).
@@danielh1744 There has always been a handful of indigenous people in the Palestine region. The 1914 census indicates a population of 532,000.
@@Matthew_Loutner "since 1900+" is not "always"
"We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.." ~ Nelson Mandela
What a delusional people!
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Balfour promised a public statement issued by the British government during World War I to support the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish
people" in Palestine, which was an Ottoman area with a Jewish minority (about 3-5% of the total population).
Jewish population by country
In the late 19th century, 99.7% of the world's Jews lived outside the region, with
Jews representing 2-5% of the population of the Palestine region.
There was over 1 million Jews living in the former Ottoman Empire in the Early 1900s when the Empire fell. Those Jews were to be able to go to the future Jewish State. Over 90% of the Ottoman lands were divided by Arab or Muslim countries, others given to Greece and Egypt or others.
A prime example of lies colonizers tell themselves so they can go to sleep at night😂🤣😂🤣
What lies?
And what is a "colonizer"?
90% of current Palestinians are Arab immigrants to Palestine. So you are claiming that the Arabs are immigrants, but the Jews are colonizers?
Okay Zionist Hasbara I see you😂🤣😂🤣@@Matthew_Loutner
@@Rashaddropemoffalways hillarious to hear colonialism lecture from a nuz lim colonists in the west 😂😂😂😂 hipocracy and taqqyia combined 😂😂😂😂
The region of Palestine was sparsely populated in the early 1900’s with plenty of room for both people who had claims to the land. According to the UN Partition, the Arab villages and a portion of the unoccupied area would become an Arab state and the Jewish villages and a portion of the unoccupied area (mostly the undesirable Negev desert) would become a Jewish state. The Jews accepted peace statehood and coexistence. The Arabs chose war and terrorism.
It was never a Palestinian state or nation. Palestine refers to a region, which, again, was sparsely populated with plenty of room for everyone pre 1948. So yes it can be said it was a land without a people.
The jews were never from this region, and disregarded local customs and ways stealing massive amounts of homes displacing locals
Are you denying the fact that in order to have a Jewish state with a Jewish majority, many palestinians had leave their home and move to a different part of the region? And if you recognize this reality then what people in the world would accept to leave their home to someone else to pay for the crimes of a third group?
Also, this idea that the israeli side is pure and holy, just wants peace and is immune to racism is a ridículous caricature. They're building more settlements as we speak.
Yeah? Look up the Camp David Hotel Bombings, the Deir Yassin massacre, etc. This was before Hamas and Hezbollah btw.
@@morenitomoreno1282 correct. Under the UN Partition, the Arab villages and a portion of the unoccupied land was to become an Arab state (the 23rd) and the Jewish villages and a portion of the unoccupied land was to become a Jewish state (the first modern version).
Never ask a man about his Salary, A women her age, and Israel about
its evidence, casualties and Crimes
the countries of origin of the grandfathers of its settlers.
NOR its link with the Israelites dating back 3000 years.
This: " An empty land without people to a people without land" - and a little later: The bride is beautiful, but she has already a husband... Both are true I think... And I think the early sionists didnt saw any real problem: the arab villages were few and far between. Lotsa of empty places inbetween... (big arab influx come later on, mainly 30-46) So I presume they simply thought: there is more than enough place both for us and them... There were also other groups than muslim arabs. And when the time comes to create a jewish government and state, we can surely make up some sort of federation. As they have in Schweiz with kantons, and other federative states... Now, we know, when Israel WAS created, there was no federation, in part because the muslim arabs were supposed to be in their own state... And also, the minorities in Israel had anway got full right to vote and participate, if they wished so.
I don’t if it was already done. But you should ask to both Palestinian and Israeli if they believe in a two state solution or a one state where they can all live in piece without one taking over the other
You all are so ignorant. The Palestinian People are mixed, like everyone else - but the most dominant genetic origins of the Palestinian People are Canaanite and Israelite. Yes, Palestinians are cousins to Jews. Not in the Arab/Ishamel way. Palestinians are the descendants of the Israelites who converted to Christianity in Jesus’ time and then to Islam when Islam came. This is even documented in the founding documents of Israel. You should see what Ben Gurion had to say about the Palestinian People in his writings. He acknowledged that the Palestinians are not Arab in origin, however, they were “Arabized” over a period of centuries.
« We cannot understand October 7th without knowing History.» ~ Shlomo Sand (Jewish historian)
« Ahmad Yassine, founder of Hamas, was born near Ashkelon, also pushed with his family to Gaza by Israel.
To refuse to see that 60% of Gazans came from the places where Israelis now live is to be blind. We cannot understand October 7th without knowing History.» ~ Shlomo Sand (Jewish historian)
Wow the first 3min and im shocked about their ignorance
The first original people of the land were jews. Do you belive in that claim?
Lady nr 2 has completely right: 100 years ago there were no Palestinians... He should ask more clearly: Arabs, or even arab villages...
Palestinians are not Arabs, they are Arabized Hebrews and Canaanites. Big difference.
1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state
2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.
5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.
14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
(Borrowed from a friend)
A little more history for those wanting to 'restore Palestine'.
In 132 AD the Emperor Hadrian resolved to stamp the Jews and their religion out of existence. He sold all Jewish prisoners into slavery after the revolt of Bar Kikhba, forbade the teaching of the Torah, renamed the province Syria Palaestina, and changed Jerusalem’s name to Aelia Capitolina. He renamed Israel to wipe out the national identity of Israel and the Jews.
So if you are looking to 'restore Palestine to the Palestinians', you need to give it back to the Jews.
Can you email me this so I can use it?
conveniently leaving out Philistine
@@noksucowboy
Philastines are an ancient Greek sea people. You don’t even know that there is no letter “P” in Arabic for Palestine. Without the lies, their religion dies.
Golda Meir says you are a liar
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It was definitely a land without a country.
Never ask a man about his Salary, A women her age, and Israel about
its evidence, casualties and Crimes
the countries of origin of the grandfathers of its settlers.
NOR its link with the Israelites dating back 3000 years.