When they say Palestinians are our slaves they don't mean only Palestinians but every single nation, that's why the dude said "what do you think America will be?"
Yeah. From their prospective, as well as from religious muslim, or religious christian prospective, all who don't believe to the God (and all of them believe that only their god is the right one) all are wild animals. And when there will Messiah come, or for Christians - Jesus will come, or for Muslims I don't now whoever will come, all will serve to the God. And all who will not serve, the will be either killed or will be slaves. That is dogmatic thing and is the cornerstone of Abrahamitic religions. For example orthodox christians believe that jews killed the God (lol) so jews are damned forever and after the second coming of christ, jews will be placed into the hell forever. Also christians believe that on pesach, jew capture christian kids, torture them in the tank. The tank walls have sharp nails nails, and using that kids blood jews make famous Matzah bread. Yeah, religious ones are crazy. They need to be cured in psychos. BTW i'm not jew, i am from orthodox christian country
@@zedleed999 What could be mistranslated as (our slaves) and (they will disappear in the air) and the worst (evaporate) 😭, You are probably a Zionist who wanna stay attached to the west and Western culture to keep taking weapons and free 💰, while you wanna keep the house your granddad stolen in 1948, but above that you still wanna some Identity which you don't have since u r a thieve
This video is important. Anti-Zionist ultra Orthodox Jews are no “pro-Palestinian” so to speak. They just don’t believe that Jews should be the governing body of the land until after messiah comes. But they believe it WILL belong to Jews after messiah. They believe in land ownership if purchased legally, sure, because purchasing equals ownership. But Zionism is specifically a non-religious movement, and therefore the religious are anti-Zionist.
Many are pro Palestinians tho I have seen them with my own eyes, some even say the Palestinians are more closer to them than the Ashkenazi jews who are just European converts
@@missmiss975 not at all if you understand the mission of the ultra Orthodox Jews. Their entire mantra is about “mashiach now”. Religious Jews have been returning to the holy land for centuries to visit or live. But they don’t believe in a state governed as a “Jewish state” while we are in exile. That doesn’t mean they don’t pray for a day to come soon that the messiah calls all Jews home
There are pro-Palestinian haredim. You can't say they're "all" one way or another because they're so diverse with different points of view. For example, Neturei Karta Palestine is basically the Jewish outreach arm of the Palestinian Authority, while Torah True Jews of Satmar just reflect the Satmar Rebbe's view that zionism is a heresy that no observant Jew should follow, but they're still very neutral on the Palestine question.
These people are strange. They can conclude that they are waiting for a Messiah, a Jewish savior, a king of all nations, everyone will recognize the kingdom of heaven, every knee will bend, all will serve the true God. If the Jewish Messiah was predicted to have come before the destruction of the temple in 70 AD, he would most certainly 2000 years later have the biggest religion today, encompassing many nations. Does that sound like anyone we know? Hmm...
The Jew is only allied to Israel and themselves. It sickens me seeing all these boomer Christians thinking these satanic weirdos are our allies. They rule our government and are pushing globalism .
Because western people think of their values as universal, not seeing the implicit racism of the thing. Just as they think Muslims care for children in the same way they do, they think these nutcases are antizionists in solidarity with some arab nationalist movement they invented.
2024 update: .They are all the same The Dajjal coming, (fake god) is the only condition for these “Anti Zionists”! To join their brothers in believe .. !how Horrible
If you understand, actually the original Israeli Jews are Samaritans, or they have converted to Christianity and Islam, but here Jews from Europe claim to be Semites who are absolutely trusted by their fans, evengelist Christians😅
@AbdulSoomro-kj5lt both Muslims and Jews aren't any better than others, Islams goal is to conquer thr whole world set up a Sharia and reduce others to paying Jizya tax, that's straight from Quran, Zionists are trash they are killing kids to achieve their Israel.
No such thing as monsters these all are humans and the day u realise that all so called monsters tyrannical kings,dictators all were humans world would have less of them.
Slaves is the wrong word.....he's translating poorly to English. Better word would be mesharsim. They're not going to be picking cotton (lol) and getting whipped.....they're going to be serving like servants of a king. Allowing Jews to be able to do their jobs. 'Slaves' is really an incorrect word.
For them it's a spiritual exil and the Messiah is the one who will gather them from this spiritual exil when he comes back so they are waiting for him whether they live in Europe or in Israel.
As the guy in the video named "Yoel" said - they as individuals only bought their houses as private property according to the law of the local government that was there, but they did not try to conquer the land. By the way, the first Zionists also acted like them in the 19th and the beginning of the 20th century and bought land legally, until the Arabs started the 1948 war and then the Zionists occupied land by force.
Just stand up and leave the room! That if you don t want to listen to fairytales. Like our prophet did. I really want every leader of a country, spokesman, consult, journalist, anyone facing these liars (israeli and american politicians) just stand up and leave the place. İf it s possible don t go to there meetings, press conferences etc. They are insulting and disrespecting everyone with there answers. Avoiding and lying each time. They don t deserve respect of the rest of the people who are still honourable. So like eveyone avoiding the bad, avoid them. Our time and breath is really of so much value, that we must not spend it with these heartless people. Boy*ott them the same way we boy*ott there products.
Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎If God exiles a people from a land ▪︎For their Wickedness,Corruption ▪︎To reestablish State with Messiah ▪︎If reestablish State without Messiah ▪︎Following Religion or Corrupting Religion?
Because Israel is the land of the Jews. And if u find that sort of Jews to deny that they have lunatic mind. Islam based in Judaism, Jerusalem is Jewish and building a mosque on top of Jewish Temple ruins doesn’t make you the native.
According to Muslims. Their final Messiah was Jesus whom they rejected and almost crucified. The False Messiah they will get now is an evil entity know as Dajjal or anti Christ. Dajjal, in Islamic belief, is a powerful deceiver who will appear before the Day of Judgment. He will possess significant powers, such as performing false miracles, controlling resources, and manipulating the elements (like turning water into fire). He will deceive many by creating illusions of paradise and hell, and by traveling quickly across the world. His followers will include those who are weak in faith, hypocrites, and those seeking material gain. However, true believers will resist him, and his reign will end with the return of Prophet Isa (Jesus), who will defeat him and restore justice.
Well, to be fair, if the Messiah comes, I imagine it should be fairly obvious and a world changing event. It's such an unimaginable event that it's not really predictable as to what we would all think or feel.
I think that illustrates that anti Zionism is not anti semitism. Jews were already living in Palestine, peacefully, alongside muslims and Christians, before the state of Israel existed.
@@josejaquez4100 I am all for Palestinian self-determination, and DEARLY hope that peace will be achieved in my lifetime, but to suggest that Palestinian Arabs didn't massacre Jews before the creation of Israel is ignorant at best. Pogroms against Jews were carried out in Hebron, Jaffa, Safed, and Jerusalem before Hitler even rose to power. However, it should be noted that Arab Muslims and Christians also protected Jews from these attacks as well. Likewise, there are Israeli Jews (particularly rabbis) defending Palestinian farmers from violent settlers and soldiers. As a general goal, fostering peace between nations and faiths should be BEYOND dispute.
@@yosefbenavraham5062 .... Interesting. I guess what you're saying is true, but I don't think it contradicts what I'm saying. You're speaking about specific incidents that occurred stemming from specific disputes and resulted in a few dozen deaths amongst those involved in the disputes. I don't think that is anywhere near comparable to the level of conflict that came from the establishment of Israel.
@@josejaquez4100 "A few dozen deaths"??? First off, this happened to hundreds, if not THOUSANDS, of people. Second, and more importantly, are you really just going to brush off the murders (and attempted murders) of "a few dozen" innocent people?? Undoubtedly, Israel has an IMMENSE amount of blood on its hands. In the strongest possible terms, I condemn Israelis that butcher, displace, and violate the rights of Palestinians. What worries me GREATLY is how this whole situation has made people completely shut off any sense of empathy and value for life as long as it's not their "team". Israeli Jews, some of whom are my dear friends of mine, are no less deserving of life just because a warmongering government commits atrocities in their name. Palestinian Arabs, some of whom are also dear friends of mine, are no less deserving of life because of terror attacks done in their name. The point is that NONE of this is okay. Demonizing, attacking, and slaughtering people because of their religion or nationhood (along with belittling/justifying such bigotry) is DESPICABLE!
@@josejaquez4100 Twice now, my attempts to reply to you (despite acting only in good faith) have been deleted. Hopefully, this message will get through. Perhaps this was not your intention, but your answer seems pretty dismissive of the fact that hundreds (if not THOUSANDS) of innocent people were brutally murdered for being Jewish, even before Israel was an organized state. I will openly acknowledge that Arab Palestinians (some of whom are dear friends of mine) have been and continue to be ruthlessly mistreated and brutalized by Israeli forces, but death tolls do not concern me as much as the fact that all this senseless violence in ongoing in the first place. This fighting MUST be put to an end! It is not only a moral stance but a practical necessity that Israelis and Palestinians coexist as neighbors. The Arab world is already normalizing relations with Israel. With any luck, this will help foster a lasting peace between nations.
That's exactly what I was thinking. And this whole view of gentiles/palestinians as being slaves when the messiah comes is, imho, a far worser perspective on non-jews than whatever the 'extreme' perspective that secular jews harbor for non-jews, but whether "anti-zionist" jew or the most extremist, ultra-nationalistic/zionistic, secular jew, both perspectives are disgusting.
@@rockysandman5489 I meant the zionist/ultra-nationalistic secular view. If it's a view that seeks some sort of peaceful coexistence with Palestinians- as peoples whom have put all the previous decades of post-1948 or so behind them and are about dealing with what is just the 'NOW', that is governed in whatsoever way that isn't resulting in mindless wars/endless deaths/receiving funding from abroad, then I'm fine with just how that will manifest- whether it's a non-mono ethnic centric state that instead is comprised of jews and others whose roots in the previous decades/centuries goes back to that land or its a 2-state sort of thing.
@@noose1911 What's wrong with a Zionist/nationalistic secular view? Before you go into that though, what do you think a Zionist or nationalistic view on the matter even is?
I'll paraphrase: "We have been exiled from this land. It's against the wish of God that Jews have their own state." But yet this does not prevent them from living in Israel. Cognitive dissonance is going on here. We shouldn't, but we do.
As an Israeli I always thought they were crazy. After this video I actually understand them better. They have been living here much before the state of Israel was declared, they were against it, but it was declared nevertheless. But that doesn't mean they should leave to them. They are simply living regardless of who is in charge
So the jest is:- We bought this land, this is hours but also we are in exile, in the same land where we are supposed to be exiled, this land is for Israel but also this land is not Israel In a nutshell hypocrisy is nuts.
Their ancestors never were in the Holy Land; these are converted Jews who have nothing to do with the original Jews of Judea. Only Palestinian Jews are in their ancestral land.
Well they've been living there for 1000s of years anyway. It was only the people of Jerusalem and the surrounding areas that the Romans had kicked out. So many Jews remained "in exile" whilst still living in the same land What it means to be in exile for them is that they don't have a state that they run themselves, and more importantly, they don't have the temple. And there's only ONE temple in ONE place in the world, which cannot be replicated anywhere else
Several of them answered that. They see no problem with religious Jews living in Israel, studying Torah, praying and following mitsvot, as Jews have done for many centuries, whether under British, Ottoman, Mamluk, Araab, Byzantine, or Roman rule, after the destruction of the Temple and the beginning of the exile. They just think the country shouldn't be ruled by Jews, especially not a secular Jewish government, before the Messiah arrives. For the record, I don't share that opinion, but that is their opinion.
@@grasmereguy5116 their opinions are hypocritical .... if they think Israel shouldnt exist before the messiah comes then they simply shouldnt be here ANd no they dont think the land should be ruled by PAlestinians .....yet they will go and protest with them ....fools
@@freejay3 Well, again, for the record, I don't agree with them, nevertheless, most of them who say they're anti-Zionist, with the exception of Neturei Karta, will not demonstrate for the Palestinians. That's one particular extreme group. But I don't see it as hypocritical necessarily. Their attitude is that Jews have always lived there, and should always live there as long as they follow Torah and mitsvot, some come from families that lived there before Israel became independent, but they don't want to live under a non-religious Jewish government before Moshiach and prefer living under a non-Jewish government. Meanwhile they'll just isolate themselves from the Israeli government as much as possible. It seems consistent to me. I'm a secular Zionist myself, but I'm glad the question was asked because a lot of anti-Israel people love to say that the motive of anti-Zionist ultra-Orthodox Jews was pro-Palestinian, but many were clear that they pray and hope for an ingathering of all the world's Jews in Eretz Yisra'el and a holy kingdom be established and that the Arabs should either serve them or even "evaporate" when that day comes. They're not quite the allies of the Palestinians they're imagined to be.
i mean that's because the west and africa+ middle east basically only have 3 religions, it's 3 flavours of ice cream fundamentalists get very different in religions with different origins and pagan religions
Religion doesn't bring people closer to enlightment. That's for sure. It rather created division. They all feel better than the others. "We against them". Jews should have learned from '39-'40. They didn't . They also think they are "über" the others. Just like the nazi's did.
You live in Israel, You pray in Israel, Israel protects you from harm yet you are not allowed to have a country. Ask not what you can do for Israel but what Israel can do for you .
I had absolutely no idea, of the underlying complexities regarding ideology and faith in Israel. There is a multiplicity of interpretations concerning the land, yet the common denominator among most, espouses the presumed sub-human status of the Palestinian people. This is both intriguing and tragic.
As a muslim my parents said " you cannot eat at Christian's house because the food might not be Halal, but you can sleep there, no problem". When it comes to the Jews they said "you can eat at the Jewish house because their food is Halal, but never ever sleep at their house". It's starting to make sense why they said that.
This hurts my heart. I hope you know there are plenty of us out here who revile this way of thinking and would love to serve you a kosher/halal meal and a safe, comfortable room to sleep in. Only friendship between us all 🖤🕍❤️🕋💚
@@Ellen-wi6fz I'm sorry to be hurtful. It is what they said. As a parent I always teach good manners and tolerance of all people, as there is good and bad in all races and religion. I am not a fanatical muslim but a peace loving tolerant one. Even my parents saying that also taught us respect for everyone because we are all human, everyone is equal and will be judged for their actions on judgement day. I am sorry again.
do you understand this in an extreme sect right of judaism right? most jews are normal people. your parents would not let you eat at or sleep at the houses of the islamic equivalent of this sect.
I'm glad to hear that you finally understood that your parents where antisemites, assuming you actually understood and didn't just do something stupid like affirming their delusional conspiracy beliefs based on a video of a few individuals inside some fringe Jewish cult and made some unreasonable sweeping generalization from what they say as if it is characteristic of what the majority of jews believe?
Leaving something to god? And what punishment is gods punishment if they are already being punished, Palestinians and the muslim world will be the successors, im not even muslim and can see it coming
I'm an "ultra orthodox" jew and I have always been taught that when the Messiah will come it will be in a miraculous way and the sanctity will be so much visible that every single human, and even the whole creation will recognize G-d's kingdom and will serv Him faithfully, to be part of his Holiness. It's surprising for me to see how much difference can I have with some ultra orthodox branches, even in central tenets such as the redemption.
@@samluke8121 yes, I was raised in a Hasidic community, a pretty numerous and mainstream one, and as you say we follow the Kabalistic teachings, but the thing is that almost all the interviewed in the video are actually Hasids, from one or another Hasidic branch. All the radical anti-zionists are Hasids (but not all Hasids are anti-zionist)...
Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎If God exiles a people from a land ▪︎For their Transgressions,Wickedness ▪︎To reestablish State with Messiah ▪︎If reestablish State without Messiah ▪︎Following Religion or Corrupting Religion?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings I don't know. I will try to explain my view on the matter: 1. I'm not the secretary of G-d and I hate the habit of playing G-d's secretary. And as such I don't know why G-d exiled the Jewish people. Just as I don't know why the holocaust happened, and I don't know why things happen in general. Yes, there's some exegesis that say that the Jewish people where exiled because of lack of "gratuitous love" or some other sin. But this is not necessarily because we know what's in G-d's mind but because our Jewish way to act is always, no matter what happens, to look inside. To learn from every situation what can we do better. What could be done rightly. 2. Not all orthodox jews agree on the matter. Most think that the state needs to be built by the Messiah, but some sustain that the coming of the Messiah consist of difference parts, and the "beginning of the redemption" is to establish a State and starting with the "gathering of Israel". 3. Most orthodox jews, even Those that on principle oppose the idea of the establishment of the State before the coming of the Messiah, agree that today, after the fact that non religious jews already established one, we can be part and defend it, because millions of Jewish lives depend on it. 4. Unlike the religious zionists, the ultra orthodox tend to see Israel not a manifestation of the Messiah or G-d's kingdom but as another secular state just as any other state in the world, with the particularity that it's habitated by a Jewish majority. So, in my view, doesn't apply your deduction.
Yes they live through an old religious book and haven't learned anything about the modern world we live in. It is sad because they are full of good intentions but don't realize they need a State to live in right now to survive.
The Admor of Satmar is the only one who said what they say, and the sources for this are in the Babylonian Talmud. But in front of him were hundreds of other rabbis who ruled the opposite of him. And according to the written Torah it is written: If there is one rabbi out of three who opposes, then the two of them decide what to do. And here in our case there were hundreds of rabbis against one. And everything is a divine move, and we have no understanding why God made it so that secularists would establish a state, but there is a reason for it. Of course, we religious Jews are not happy that a secular state was established, but it saved millions from certain death in exile.
@@user-zg3nb1mk5b26 exo 23 2 You are not to follow the majority in doing wrong, and you are not to testify in a lawsuit so as to follow the majority and pervert justice.
@user-zg3nb1mk5b I agree with your view entirely, Hashem is the one controlling history and it’s our job to do the best in our current time. That being said though I think it’s important to note that it wasn’t only the Admor MiSatmar who opposed Zionism, many other Rabbis at the time also disagreed with the foundational principles of the movement as well. A more accurate critique is, as you said, the fact that we don’t know why Hashem let secularists found the state, but that was 70+ years ago and in our generation we have to unite and move forward as one. Most Zionists today are not anti-religious as their predecessors were, and I think Haredim similarly should less be opposed to the state but rather lead it by good example.
They hate Israel and don't believe in the secular state and they are afraid to talk frankly, they hate Israelis and Israel, I have been there many times
The Admor of Satmar is the only one who said what they say, and the sources for this are in the Babylonian Talmud. But in front of him were hundreds of other rabbis who ruled the opposite of him. And according to the written Torah it is written: If there is one rabbi out of three who opposes, then the two of them decide what to do. And here in our case there were hundreds of rabbis against one. And everything is a divine move, and we have no understanding why God made it so that secularists would establish a state, but there is a reason for it. Of course, we religious Jews are not happy that a secular state was established, but it saved millions from certain death in exile.
Yes, because it's an uneducated question. There is no ”belongs”. Everything in this life is temporary. If you're religious, then there may be a permanent afterlife. If not, then the sooner you face this fact, the better. Don't get caught up in the fantastical illusion of ”belonging”.
I've been thinking about this exact thing lately, if they didn't recognise the messiah the first time he was on earth what are the odds they'll recognise him at his second coming and not take the dajjal as their messiah? God help us all
These people don't believe Israel should exist but live in Israel nonetheless. They receive IDF protection but are exempt from military service. Does any more need to be said?
You have to keep in mind that Jews were already living peacefully in Palestine alongside Muslims and Christians before Israel became a state. They don't need IDF protection.
That sounds very paradoxal doesnt it? You exile yourself in the forbidden country? Like can’t you just choose somewhere else until your messiah comes??
He explained that. They're allowed to visit and live just like they have done in the past before their was an Israel. It just so happens that there's an Israel now but that's not a reason as to why they shouldn't live in the land.
Absolutely insane take. First because not every Jew is even remotely close to the haredi, and second because 80% of the people responsible for the 109+ expulsions (if you add the pogroms) think literally like this. Ya can't defend the actions of a religious fundamentalist as a way to critique religious fundamentalism, that's just not how this shit works
11:20 "They connect through us to God" - 😅😅😅😅 - Why are they in exile in Palestine and not in the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in Russia? These hypocrites only don't want serve in the IDF.
There has been some deplorable and depraved behaviour recorded and often exhibited online by the IDF as well as the atrocities committed. War crimes of all sizes and forms. I don't blame these people for not wanting to be a part of that
The irony of the last guy talking bad about others taking part in a "Western culture which is not us, it is not Jewish" when he and almost all Ultra Orthodox dress in very old European style, many use a Germanic language, (Yiddish,) eat Euro/Ashkenazi food, etc. etc.. I respect people's right to dress, decorate, speak, sing how they choose, but it's pretty ironic of him to act superior to and bash other Jews with ostensibly "western culture" while so much about him and his community is "western" Jewish culture.
At least aesthetically. And yes....The dress while denoting religious characteristics is of an Eastern European origin, which was then developed and adopted as the attire of Orthodox Jewry.
I think he means "secular" and "humanist" when he says Western, rather than refering to other cultural aspects. Thats the part that matters to them, following the Mitzvot or not. I don't think he means it in a way related to dress or cuisine or language or other more "wordly" aspects of culture.
They got stuck in time when in exile in Europe and not even think to revert back to more Israelite like attire (which I think Orthodox Jews at least try to) - interestingly a similar phenomenon with Samaritans who still wear fez when they're doing service though.
The last guy encapsulates the sentiment. They are MIAA - Make Israel Ancient Again. People will have sacrifices and the Sanhedrin, and kings, and multiple wives, and prayer - as if life at that time was somehow paradise and returning to ancient times is the pinnacle of human existence. Vais Meer. 😮
@@YadinZedek777 zionists would agree with you. But they have a long history there and believe they have a right to be there as long as they aren’t in control.
Well spotted, thought im the only one. There is something way off with these things.. they heavily contradicting, confusing and seems mentally disturbed in a evil way.
@@criticalthinker1123 they believe that they're not supposed to be there so why are they there, majority of those people we're not there before the creation of Israel, there was a population continuously living in the land but that's not them
@@YadinZedek777 they believe they don’t deserve to govern at this point, not that they don’t deserve to live there at all (although some extreme versions of them do believe they can’t live there at all)
@@Discoursivist watch it again they believe that there isn't supposed to be a Jewish state or a state of Israel. In reality there is no one ruling over them. The belief is specifically speaking about a King.
@@Warhammer416 It means hating middle eastern people speaking Arabic, but they are still trying to hijack the term. Converted colonialist genocidal clowns.
This mess is theirs. All Jews Muslims and Christians were living in peace under the Ottoman rules until the anglophones wanted the oil rich lands to themselves and provoked the Arabs into revolt against Turks. The rest is history.
@@அவானிஉயர்ந்தது The British wanted a puppet government over the whole of Palestine to act as a buffer state to protect their control over the Suez canal - the gateway to India - from competing empires, notably the French and Russian/Soviet. When Stalin came to power, he supported a different group of zionists who wanted an independent state, as a proxy war against Britain. Britain deployed some 100,000 men to Palestine to fight the zionists, but ultimately accepted defeat, in large part due to American pressure, and a newly elected government in the UK that wanted to spend money on health care rather than the empire. So yes, Britain played a role, but was against the creation of Israel, which was Stalin's personal project. The desire to control oil rich lands was far more important for the creation of Iraq, control over Mosul etc, but for Palestine, they wanted a friendly puppet government due to proximity to the Suez. However, trying to maintain control of Palestine meant confiscating weapons to stop people killing each other, but the zionists were getting large shipments of weapons from Czechoslovakia, while Palestinians were left with very little to defend themselves once British forces were given the order to pack up and leave. Britain didn't even vote in favour of partition at the UN. Yes, they shouldn't have been there, but they didn't want this (unlike the current British government)
Because for them it isn't a question of physical location, but the question of politically running a state. (Plus, even they know that in the war of 1948, Arabs murdered and ethnically cleansed their communities, the communities of anti-Zionists just as much as Arabs murdered and ethnically cleansed Zionist communities.)
They are the hypocrits that's why God punished them they always change the law by their own convenience, look at their contradictions like they can decieve God
This has often been used by Palestinians ( wittingly or not) as an endorsement of there point of view, however, it’s not that these people believe in the Palestinian cause, it’s a procedural issue that offends them…..”how dare we have a secular state before redemption “…with out speciconcerns for Palestinians
Yeah and there are many Muslims around the world that only support the Palestinians because they're Muslims, not because they are against the concepts of settler-colonialism and land theft. Very few entire groups of people are entirely consistent in their support for a cause.
Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎If God exiles a people from a land ▪︎For their Transgressions,Wickedness ▪︎To reestablish State with Messiah ▪︎If reestablish State without Messiah ▪︎Following Religion or Corrupting Religion?
@@agentdoodo299 Muslims are against land theft. What they're not against is for Islam to impose (its) rule of law and justice system, just as others would want secularism or liberalism to impose (its) rule of law and justice system. Right of governance doesn't belong to ethnic or geographic groups, but to truth. All people recognise this. When Muslims say the land belongs to Palestinians, the point is that Palestinians living and owning land there for generations, have the right to live without constant fear of eviction or literal settler terrorists, not that the Palestinians shouldn't be ruled over by a (just) state, even a non-Arab one. It's the same as when people say that it should be a secular state. That's their conception of justice. By saying that, nobody would say they are advocating for secularism to steal land. What they mean is that the Palestinians should be able to live safely and justly and the way to achieve that is by secularism.
Ultra Orthodox Jews (Haredim) are not monolith people. 1. This applies for the Ashkenazi Haredim. The ones who live in the West Bank settlements and Israel proper are the Haredim (like the Hassidic Ger, Belz, Vishnitz, Breslovs, Chabad etc and the Yeshivish/Misnagdic Perushim) who are non-Zionist but regard the State of Israel as similar to other gentile government of the other countries. They oppose the secular Zionism but accept that Israel is their country and their land. That is why they participate in the government and obey the laws just like how their grandparents live in the diaspora. And somehow they will fight for their own interests too (for instance to get exemption for Torah studies and get government sponsors, religious authority etc). They regard Israeli Jews who aren’t observant as fellow Jews who are deviated and have to be brought closer to Judaism as per their belief. They also believe as long as Messiah has not come yet, they are still in spiritual exile despite acknowledging they are in the Land of Israel with the rest of People of Israel. Some of them are even pro-Israel like the Chabad and the Nanach Breslovers and many Misnagdic/Yeshivish Jews while maintaining very thin line definition of non-Zionist. They do Kiruv (religious outreach) towards secular communities to bring them closer to Judaism. Some especially in the Misnagdic communities do participate in the Israeli Rabbinate and have ties with the Ashkenazi Datim (Religious Zionists/Modern Orthodox olim from US/Central Orthodox olim from UK). The Hassidic Haredim unite under Agudat Yisrael while the Yeshivish/Misnagdic Haredim unite under Degel Hatorah. Both groups unite under United Torah Judaism. Regarding Sephardi Haredim like the rabbis in the Shas but they are Zionist and participate in the Israeli Rabbinate. Many Sephardi/Mizrahi communities who are despite secular and traditionalists still regard them as binding figures. 2. Meanwhile the Haredim who specifically live in Meah Shearim which is the stronghold for anti-Zionist Ultra-Orthodox Jews (Satmar, Dushinsky, Toldos Aharon, Toldos Avrohom Yitzchok etc and some Sephardi Haredim anti Zionists) do not want anything to do with the government and the State of Israel. They could accept any other gentile government as long as it is not by Jewish government whether it is religious or secular. They do not accept the Israeli Rabbinate, neither Agudat Yisrael nor Degel Hatorah. They have their own ruling council named Edah Hacharedis. According to their belief, only gentiles can rule the Land of Israel. They acknowledge that the land is biblically belonging to the Jews but must be ruled by gentiles as long as the Messiah has not come yet. These Haredim do not participate in political argument Israel vs Palestine. They don’t have opinion about that. If one day the government belong to the Palestinians, they will just live in their own stronghold and do not want their daily activities disturbed. If let say the Palestinian government want them to join army, prevent them doing their religious worship then either they will fight against it too or move out of the land just like any similar stories of Jewish history. In the video, some of the guys have different reasonings about being anti-Zionist (some is mild, some is strong) denoting their different background of the Haredi groups within Meah Shearim 3. The Neturei Karta is also part of Meah Shearim and is a staunch anti-Zionist group but a small fraction under Rabbi Moshe Hirsch go further by showing support of the Palestinian movement by joining rallies and expressing thoughts on forums and talks. These small fringe part of Neturei Karta people are put on cherem (excommunicated) by the Edah HaCharedis and not every NK member in Israel support them. Neturei Karta despite looked like a Hassidic group with peyot is actually a Misnagdic Haredi group. The Satmar Haredim who are the most outspoken anti-Zionist in the Meah Shearim do not want NK to be associated with them.
Didn't know the loudest voice of anti-Zionist Haredim are actually excommunicated. 🤣 P.S. I'm curious but what happens if an Israeli Arab (say, Lucy Aharish) becomes a Prime Minister somewhat, will they recognize the state then?
This might be the most accurate and neutraly informative comment I have seen regarding Haredim on the internet in the last few years. Thank you for this. It's painful to see so many people completely ignorant about the nuance of Haredi Jewish life (both amongst other Jews AND gentiles).
Islam.. Islam is the only exception Seriously.. Why else are Muslims portrayed as terrorists who are there to take over lands from white people on Europe and America? When all the Muslims do, is just immigrate to work for better pay. Matter of fact non-Muslims do the exact same thing but we get the most crap for it
tf you talkin about? european christians got their religion from the jews, if anything its middle easterns with their non ending 9999 different prophets and killing eachother for whos prophet is better mohamed or jesus or abraham or whatever, classic middle eastern stuff you know, stoning people to death for beleving the wrong religion, but sure its the europeans fault
These people are living in an idealized past. Even the most faithful among them can't obey all 613 mitzvot or commandments unless a Temple is standing -- yet there will be no new temple until or unless Moshiach comes. Even then he may have something more modern in mind that doesn't involve daily animal sacrifices. Most of that food was either consumed by the kohanim or sold to the public anyway, wasn't it? Will a scapegoat still be chased into the Negev every year?
@@GomezBro That Messiah didn't rebuild the Temple -- unless perhaps you mean the one in Salt Lake City, and that whole process took centuries -- or gather in the exiles. Instead, the veil covering the Holy of Holies was ripped in two, unbeknownst to the priests who acted as its custodians. Before long even more Jews were expelled from the Holy Land. So we're talking about a Greco-Roman Christ instead of the Jewish Moshiach.
its funny they are all saying it's not their land and they shouldn't be there, then why are they living there? If you don't believe in Israel, then go and live somewhere else, they are living a lie against their own beliefs and principles.
Living there is fine. Establishing a government or state such as Israel is, in their minds, tantamount to trying to defy the will of God. Most Jews do not share these fanatical beliefs. They are practical and realize they must take fate into their own hands.
@@fuwa9616 I’m secular Israeli Jew, I think that we have a sense of community but not tribalism .. and we deep with threats on our security so we have a feeling of concern and conation for each other
Amazing insight into how beliefs and indoctrination have peoples minds completely skewed. Nevertheless, its great to hear honest thoughts, however deluded and out of date they may be. 1 of your best videos 👍🏻
This makes me cry, I can’t believe in the year 2024 so many cultures are living with these views of inequality, superiority and the inevitability of slavery. PARENTS…STOP teaching your kids this BS!!!!!!!!!!!! Child abuse!
What cultures are you talking about here exactly? I hope you don't associate anything these few unknowledgeable individuals from this fringe Jewish cult believe on to Jewish culture and religion as a whole. There is a reason they are only a tiny fringe cult, they are light years away from even what other Ultra orthodox jews believe. But assuming you didn't then I see what you mean, we here in Israel are surrounded by such cultures. In all Arab countries here anyone that is not Muslim is are considered lesser people that need to be humiliated and know their " inferiority" by a long list of degrading practices the most known being having to pay "protection money" to the Muslim rulers. We as jews lived in the middle east for thousands of years, even before it was conquered by the Arab Muslim armies occupied the all of it and beyond, but even though we were relative to them considered the indigenous peoples of these lands that are now considered Arab Muslim and have since been ethnically cleansed from them we have not done a single terrorist attack, fancy that... I guess it is possible to not be a Barbarian... Someone need to hurry and tell it to the woke university staffs...
Their concept of “slavery” is not slavery that you think of. They view themselves as servants of God and in the future everyone will be doing that together
As a Jew, I completley do not agree with anything these people say. Not about Zionist not about Palestinians being slaves or anything. They really really really do not represent the accepted view of Judaism
Theya actually do. The only difference between them and the religious Zionist is that they believe they have to be in exile and can't have a state until the Messiach arrives. Everything else is the same
Anti Christ. The anti Christ will deceive a lot of man kind and have people worshipping him. Yeshua will destroy him. It's going to be crazy times. Muhammad won't be able to help you. Make ישוע your refuge now before that day.
Judaism as a religion exists thousands of years. People should know there is a separation between secular jews and religious ones, and there are many different jewish groups and ideologies..
Humans waiting for a divine being to guide them, not realizing out fate is in our own hands. Break these shackles of division, we are all one people. No one people should be slaves to any other, and if your religion describes the rest of the world as "gentile" to make you feel special about yourself, that's proof your religion was written by ancient humans and not some all-knowing all-loving entity.
Our fate in our own hands? We do amazing when we adopt atheism for our religion. Just look at China and the USSR, and the hundreds of millions of dead people under such regimes. People will always find a way to divide themselves, heck even in some cities around the world, people of the same race, same ethnicity, same political beliefs, same neighbourhood, same religion beat each other to death over a football team they support. I disagree with the Jews on many things as I am a Muslim, but to claim they should stop being Jew because it is divising is silly.
02:40 As Muslims we already serve God ..praying 5 times a day minimum (the pious do extra prayers ) ..we too believe in the Come back of Jesus peace be upon hime he will spread justice ..in our unjust world
At least they're honest when they admit they don't know. Their main problem is not extending that reality to the rest of what they believe they think they know.
See that land? Been there for more than a billion years. Still be there when you and I are gone. So arguing over who owns it is like two fleas arguing over who owns the dog they live on.
The Admor of Satmar is the only one who said what they say, and the sources for this are in the Babylonian Talmud. But in front of him were hundreds of other rabbis who ruled the opposite of him. And according to the written Torah it is written: If there is one rabbi out of three who opposes, then the two of them decide what to do. And here in our case there were hundreds of rabbis against one. And everything is a divine move, and we have no understanding why God made it so that secularists would establish a state, but there is a reason for it. Of course, we religious Jews are not happy that a secular state was established, but it saved millions from certain death in exile.
shows you have not studied revelations. or the book of Daniel . Genesis tells you it's the jews. the apple of his eye. you are just an antisemtic antichristian anti god person with a sad soul that will perish in flames.
They're "in exile" on the very land from which they're supposed to be exiled. They're not allowed to govern the land "until the Messiah comes", even though there are thousands of Haredi communities where the religious laws are strict to a tee. I don't know of any other group of people who say they're in exile from the land on which they are living and working and studying and all sorts, and where they're not allowed to govern over the land on which they are clearly dictating how people ought to live their lives. If the problem is Zionism, then why haven't they left Israel already? The Second Temple is nothing; the Wailing Wall is nothing; the Mount of Olives is nothing; every Haredi community is nothing; the yeshivot are nothing; the mikvot are nothing. All these things are nothing but violating the principle that they are supposedly maintaining. In other words, they're being selective about how the principle applies to their daily lives, and so won't allow anyone either to force them to do what isn't on their agenda or to prevent them from doing what is on their agenda. If there is real anti-Zionism, then these Jews have neither the morality nor the religious right to remain in Israel, as they don't have the hindsight to review their own ideals and thoughts and values to the point of resolving the massive inconsistencies inherent in their logic or train of thought.
And yet they are given money by the government, I think? They're breeding like rabbits and from some sources projected to be 1/3 of Israel's population by 2060... Crazy. I hope by then Israel goes through serious changes if they want to have a viable state because they have all sorts of issues going on.
Orthodox Israeli Jew here- According to the Torah, every righteous non-Jew will be rewarded as much as a Jew. The whole slave thing in the video is utter nonsense.
@@topibundar9554 Pure Arab propaganda. Arabs were only forced to leave when the village attacked. That is why Abu Ghosh remains, even till today, a Muslim village right outside Jerusalem. Their Sheikh chose peace and they were left in peace. They even serve in the IDF today.
@@judahdaneshtaol well there is a lot video documentaries out there about settlers keep harassing, attacking, and force occupying palestinian families and their homes...which one i should believe, your comment or those video??
Its very convenient to live on the land freely with all human rights but say you are in exile and have nothing to do with the land or its politics Genocide is happening here "That's just not my problem"
As a Muslim, a religious Jew explaining their eschatology and saying the non-believers will becomes “slaves” is not offensive at all. He’s describing his belief from the scriptures, not his opinion.
So you don't mind being ruled by jews? The muslim prerogative would be that jews and christians are to be subjugated to muslims in the coming caliphate, no?
@@testacalsI don’t understand why people refuse to acknowledge the facts of Jewish and Islamic belief. They a lack true notion equality through love. Which is fine, Christinity revolutionized the concept and forcing the rest of the world to feel the wrong is silly. Jsut live with it
@DartLuke As an “anti-Zionist” Muslim my answers to your questions are: 1) 10 of the 12 spies lacked faith in God and they feared the prospect of having to fight against an enemy that they deemed greater than themselves. (they feared the Canaanites more than they feared God) 2) They rejected Jesus Christ and he was crucified (killed by corrupt political leaders like so many of the prophets before him).
Jews were not in exile for 2000, Jews were there before the Islamic conquests and after the Islamic conquests, you can read about Jewish presence in every Arabic book about the history of Palestine.
As an atheist from Scotland its mind blowing what people will do when they read certain books The messiah isnae coming back dont want to burst your enthusiastic bubbles
Funny how basing your worldview on ancient manmade stories can lead to a nonsensical worldview in the present. That being said, these guys are just an obvious example of a much deeper and wider problem.
indeed, as an israeli i dont understand how people seriously believe in such ideas. they're already in israel and are still talking about an exile. they should grow up and either leave israel or accept zionism one of the two
@r.t.5767 of course not equal, but all are manmade. Which tends to place certain limits on their insightfulness and utility thousands of years down the line in a barely recognisable society and culture.
you can see the difference between people who prefer talmud's teachings over torah. One guy spoke what is actually in torah that they don't know what will happen but all of the nations will follow the messiah and workshop one God, while talmud goes in detail about how non jews should be slaves of jews etc etc
I dont think you understand, but to be honest the video and the questions dont help. Its also difficult with two questions to understand what they believe. Zionists for them are nor really jews.
@@chatisawasteoftime Considering other people other than their group as "goy" and would be treated as slaves, not human etc etc. As the Talmud said, "If you eat with a Goy is the same as eating with a dog" (tospoth yebamoth 84b) 🤔It's almost like they feel superior from all human beings🤷🏻♀️
@@rositanindaalisa Do you understand Aramaic and have you studied the Talmud? If not, you're only regurgitating what Jew haters want you to believe. As for slavery, when Moshich comes, only righteous gentiles will survive. and they'll be honored to assist Jews in their service of G-d, hence the use of the word slavery--for lack of a better term. Stop with the political correct nonsense of "otherism". To Jews, gentiles are others, and there's nothing wrong with that. Too bad you aren't a Jew. To you, Jews are the "others" and guess what: we don't care. Just leave us alone.
Could you collaborate with a data analyst to develop a measure, to apply to all your videos, of thinking heterogeneity across the Palestinian and Israeli communities? Obviously this is a testament to Israeli heterogeneity but would be interesting to see it in number form
I live far away from Israel and never understood why Jews are against Israel until now! You explained more in 16 minutes than everybody I speak with in my whole life!
This guy with the blurred face is not a Torah follower, when the Meshiach comes he will rebuild the Temple and it will be the temple for all the people of the world. Don’t know where he got that idea of slaves.
"In those days, ten people from nations of every tongue will take hold; they will take hold of every Jew by a corner of their cloak' (Zechariah 8:23) - this teaches that in the future, every Jew will be served by 2,800 servants."
It says in the torah that "you will be a goy cohanim" a nation of priests, meaning just as today the cohanim have special avdut "service to god" for which the levites wash their hands and prepare them for korbanot, the same is true of yisrael to the cohen and the levi (the yisrael holds the land, the levi holds the cities, the cohanim serve in the temple) the teaching is that the other goyim, in the times of moshiach, they will see we serve the correct g-d, that our g-d is the king of the universe, so they will serve in relation to our holy behavior. This is why, according to ultra orthodox jews, a jew who does not keep the mitzvot is as if he is a goy, although its true he can make tchuva if he was born jewish or had a proper giurius (took on the mitzvot fully cercumized, shomer shabbat in a jewish community ect)...then these people, because of their membership of the goy kadosh, the am yisrael, they will be able to make tchuva before the redemption BUT FOR THE EREV RAV, the inter mariers, the torah desorcrator, the sabbath desocrator, the assimilationists, the ones who do not keep kosher...there is no olam haba gauranteed for them. And gehenom or destruction of their souls is insured if they do not return obediance to hashem. Alot of people misunderstand the story of exodus, or yesias mitzraim, as saying that g-d took us out of slavery just to show us that serving another people was wrong, or that it was harsh.... and there are SOME LIMITED ASPECTS OF THIS. "do not afflict the stranger for you once were a stranger in the land of egypt"...and so on and so forth and indeed the commandment to jews regarding slavery are so stringent, that most considered having a slave to be something that was inconvenient, and likely to create immorality (see midrash pirkei avot for reference). But in the ancient world, the word slave and servant were interchangable, a servant who lived in your household dependent on you for food had less rights then you, because you commanded your house hold "baal habiet" means master of the house, master of his children, his wife, and his servants... Im not trying to justify what the tannach is saying here saying its evil, good, bad whatever...but I'm trying to provide some context to why the haredim in this video don't see it as a bad thing that jews would hold slaves...because they arent really our slaves in this context...they are slaves to g-d just like we are slaves to g-d, and it just so happens that the tannach says that they will serve to our benefit.. because during the galut (now) g-d has once again placed us below them in status in order to humble us, just like he did in babylon, just like he did in egypt.
@@MohammedHassan-ym8qf you very conveniently left out the last part of the sentence: Zachariah 8:23 (Chabad) - "So said the Lord of Hosts: In those days, when ten men of all the languages of the nations shall take hold of the skirt of a Jewish man, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you." How is it to be a liar?
What absolutely crazy is that, a couple stated “once the Messiah comes, Palestinians will be our slaves”… Nowhere in Torah is that stated
He’s an idiot who a fake jew
U really think these guys rely only on the torah? Read their midrash and talmud.. it's fcked up
there is the written torah and there is the oral torah. It's in there.
Not only Palestinians but all non-Jews are slaves
@@tg2683 i've noticed all religions are oral jobs.
When they say Palestinians are our slaves they don't mean only Palestinians but every single nation, that's why the dude said "what do you think America will be?"
Isn't its slave already ? Americans are in loans after studies, working 3 jobs in same time to pay taxes so that Israel can be funded.
Jews are not invading the whole world and turning it according to their customs as Muslims do. Be more objective.
Yeah. From their prospective, as well as from religious muslim, or religious christian prospective, all who don't believe to the God (and all of them believe that only their god is the right one) all are wild animals. And when there will Messiah come, or for Christians - Jesus will come, or for Muslims I don't now whoever will come, all will serve to the God. And all who will not serve, the will be either killed or will be slaves. That is dogmatic thing and is the cornerstone of Abrahamitic religions. For example orthodox christians believe that jews killed the God (lol) so jews are damned forever and after the second coming of christ, jews will be placed into the hell forever. Also christians believe that on pesach, jew capture christian kids, torture them in the tank. The tank walls have sharp nails nails, and using that kids blood jews make famous Matzah bread. Yeah, religious ones are crazy. They need to be cured in psychos.
BTW i'm not jew, i am from orthodox christian country
Slavery is a mistranslation, there is no such thing as slavery in the bible.
@@zedleed999
What could be mistranslated as (our slaves) and (they will disappear in the air) and the worst (evaporate) 😭,
You are probably a Zionist who wanna stay attached to the west and Western culture to keep taking weapons and free 💰, while you wanna keep the house your granddad stolen in 1948, but above that you still wanna some Identity which you don't have since u r a thieve
This video is important. Anti-Zionist ultra Orthodox Jews are no “pro-Palestinian” so to speak. They just don’t believe that Jews should be the governing body of the land until after messiah comes. But they believe it WILL belong to Jews after messiah. They believe in land ownership if purchased legally, sure, because purchasing equals ownership. But Zionism is specifically a non-religious movement, and therefore the religious are anti-Zionist.
Many are pro Palestinians tho I have seen them with my own eyes, some even say the Palestinians are more closer to them than the Ashkenazi jews who are just European converts
Confusing
@@missmiss975 not at all if you understand the mission of the ultra Orthodox Jews. Their entire mantra is about “mashiach now”. Religious Jews have been returning to the holy land for centuries to visit or live. But they don’t believe in a state governed as a “Jewish state” while we are in exile. That doesn’t mean they don’t pray for a day to come soon that the messiah calls all Jews home
There are pro-Palestinian haredim. You can't say they're "all" one way or another because they're so diverse with different points of view. For example, Neturei Karta Palestine is basically the Jewish outreach arm of the Palestinian Authority, while Torah True Jews of Satmar just reflect the Satmar Rebbe's view that zionism is a heresy that no observant Jew should follow, but they're still very neutral on the Palestine question.
These people are strange. They can conclude that they are waiting for a Messiah, a Jewish savior, a king of all nations, everyone will recognize the kingdom of heaven, every knee will bend, all will serve the true God. If the Jewish Messiah was predicted to have come before the destruction of the temple in 70 AD, he would most certainly 2000 years later have the biggest religion today, encompassing many nations. Does that sound like anyone we know? Hmm...
ppl who think anti zionist jews are their allies should watch this
They are ❤. They are afraid
@@eto_cheloveknope they really believe this
The ultra orthodox anti-zionist myth. These guys are showing their true colours
@@eto_chelovek No they aren't. The problem is the religion itself.
The Jew is only allied to Israel and themselves. It sickens me seeing all these boomer Christians thinking these satanic weirdos are our allies. They rule our government and are pushing globalism .
"Without the Torah we are gentiles, even worse than the Palestinians"..... Let that sink in
Disgusting sentence. Supremacy at its finest.
And their 'learned religious' speaks like that as a matter of fact. 🙄
@@waryaawariiri1812 secular society is the reason why Palestine and israel war haven't ended
He use Torah name, while preaching Talmud mindset..
@@Taliban.The.Hyperpower I can say the same thing with Islamic nation
It’s funny how they are always portrayed as pro Palestine…
..by Palestinians. In reality, they're just a mirror image of Islamic extremists, except they're not actually as violent, generally.
Because western people think of their values as universal, not seeing the implicit racism of the thing. Just as they think Muslims care for children in the same way they do, they think these nutcases are antizionists in solidarity with some arab nationalist movement they invented.
Some of them are. Jews are not a monolith and anti-Zionism has multiple meanings.
2024 update:
.They are all the same
The Dajjal coming, (fake god) is the only condition for these “Anti Zionists”! To join their brothers in believe .. !how Horrible
If you understand, actually the original Israeli Jews are Samaritans, or they have converted to Christianity and Islam, but here Jews from Europe claim to be Semites who are absolutely trusted by their fans, evengelist Christians😅
Palestinians have been dealing with these creatures for decades.. let that sink in.
Oh but I thought it was only about zionists not jews?
And Europe has dealt with them for 1900 years
@@edvinparmeza1298 really? And where were we before that?
@@Ella-t5v East
@@edvinparmeza1298 middle east more like it
None of these people are our allies. They’re all monsters.
True at this point they lost all trust even the so called “good ones” they never learn do they?
@AbdulSoomro-kj5lt both Muslims and Jews aren't any better than others, Islams goal is to conquer thr whole world set up a Sharia and reduce others to paying Jizya tax, that's straight from Quran, Zionists are trash they are killing kids to achieve their Israel.
No such thing as monsters these all are humans and the day u realise that all so called monsters tyrannical kings,dictators all were humans world would have less of them.
@@ThetrueMeaningOfJihad Humans without humanity
Daddy chill
“The Palestinians will become their slaves” what holy book are they reading!
All nonbelievers really, all OG holy texts are wild. A world conquerors wet dream.
on the other side, the muslims believe at the end time all creation (including stones and plants) will kill all the jews...
Might be a Misunderstood translation. When we hear the word slave we think of slaves from america so naturally we get horrified.
Oh just wait until you read the Quran and Hadith.
Slaves is the wrong word.....he's translating poorly to English. Better word would be mesharsim. They're not going to be picking cotton (lol) and getting whipped.....they're going to be serving like servants of a king. Allowing Jews to be able to do their jobs. 'Slaves' is really an incorrect word.
They actually believe that they are above every other race and nation
the extremely religious ultra orthodox jews certainly do
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That's what Muslims also believe.
Unfortunately, many ultra nationalists think they are above everyone else or think that other nations were created to one day serve them.
so do muslims and so do many christians. welcome to the abrahamic mess
If you’re in exile if it’s forbidden for you to be there until your messiah arrives then what are you doing there??
I think he means for jews to be government force.
For them it's a spiritual exil and the Messiah is the one who will gather them from this spiritual exil when he comes back so they are waiting for him whether they live in Europe or in Israel.
As the guy in the video named "Yoel" said - they as individuals only bought their houses as private property according to the law of the local government that was there, but they did not try to conquer the land. By the way, the first Zionists also acted like them in the 19th and the beginning of the 20th century and bought land legally, until the Arabs started the 1948 war and then the Zionists occupied land by force.
They're in spiritual exile
@@andrewstaples7544 they just make this shit up as they go along
Hypocrites. They actively occupy the land, but still they say they are in exile and the land isn't theirs.
They bought that land
Just stand up and leave the room!
That if you don t want to listen to fairytales.
Like our prophet did.
I really want every leader of a country, spokesman, consult, journalist, anyone facing these liars (israeli and american politicians) just stand up and leave the place. İf it s possible don t go to there meetings, press conferences etc.
They are insulting and disrespecting everyone with there answers. Avoiding and lying each time. They don t deserve respect of the rest of the people who are still honourable.
So like eveyone avoiding the bad, avoid them. Our time and breath is really of so much value, that we must not spend it with these heartless people.
Boy*ott them the same way we boy*ott there products.
@@floptaxie68 stole*
@@natsoc_arabist nuh uh, they paid for it
@@floptaxie68bought it from who?
very confused bunch of people.
Haha! Yes!! 🙌
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎If God exiles a people from a land
▪︎For their Wickedness,Corruption
▪︎To reestablish State with Messiah
▪︎If reestablish State without Messiah
▪︎Following Religion or Corrupting Religion?
This video exemplifies how religion can so poison a person's mind that they can no longer possess the ability to think rationally.
You should see the Palestinians then
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎If God forbids Sorcery,Usury
▪︎If a People engage in,practice
▪︎Babylonian Magic,Interest Banking
▪︎Following God or Satan?
So basically they wait for the Messiah to come, to do the things Zionists are already doing? Same behaviour, same mindset.
Exactly then they can justify.
Because Israel is the land of the Jews. And if u find that sort of Jews to deny that they have lunatic mind. Islam based in Judaism, Jerusalem is Jewish and building a mosque on top of Jewish Temple ruins doesn’t make you the native.
According to Muslims. Their final Messiah was Jesus whom they rejected and almost crucified.
The False Messiah they will get now is an evil entity know as Dajjal or anti Christ.
Dajjal, in Islamic belief, is a powerful deceiver who will appear before the Day of Judgment. He will possess significant powers, such as performing false miracles, controlling resources, and manipulating the elements (like turning water into fire). He will deceive many by creating illusions of paradise and hell, and by traveling quickly across the world.
His followers will include those who are weak in faith, hypocrites, and those seeking material gain. However, true believers will resist him, and his reign will end with the return of Prophet Isa (Jesus), who will defeat him and restore justice.
their messiah has come 2024 years ago and yet you cant convince them
Well, to be fair, if the Messiah comes, I imagine it should be fairly obvious and a world changing event. It's such an unimaginable event that it's not really predictable as to what we would all think or feel.
We are forbidden to have a country.
We have a country.
I think that illustrates that anti Zionism is not anti semitism. Jews were already living in Palestine, peacefully, alongside muslims and Christians, before the state of Israel existed.
@@josejaquez4100
I am all for Palestinian self-determination, and DEARLY hope that peace will be achieved in my lifetime, but to suggest that Palestinian Arabs didn't massacre Jews before the creation of Israel is ignorant at best. Pogroms against Jews were carried out in Hebron, Jaffa, Safed, and Jerusalem before Hitler even rose to power.
However, it should be noted that Arab Muslims and Christians also protected Jews from these attacks as well. Likewise, there are Israeli Jews (particularly rabbis) defending Palestinian farmers from violent settlers and soldiers. As a general goal, fostering peace between nations and faiths should be BEYOND dispute.
@@yosefbenavraham5062 .... Interesting. I guess what you're saying is true, but I don't think it contradicts what I'm saying. You're speaking about specific incidents that occurred stemming from specific disputes and resulted in a few dozen deaths amongst those involved in the disputes. I don't think that is anywhere near comparable to the level of conflict that came from the establishment of Israel.
@@josejaquez4100
"A few dozen deaths"???
First off, this happened to hundreds, if not THOUSANDS, of people. Second, and more importantly, are you really just going to brush off the murders (and attempted murders) of "a few dozen" innocent people??
Undoubtedly, Israel has an IMMENSE amount of blood on its hands. In the strongest possible terms, I condemn Israelis that butcher, displace, and violate the rights of Palestinians.
What worries me GREATLY is how this whole situation has made people completely shut off any sense of empathy and value for life as long as it's not their "team". Israeli Jews, some of whom are my dear friends of mine, are no less deserving of life just because a warmongering government commits atrocities in their name. Palestinian Arabs, some of whom are also dear friends of mine, are no less deserving of life because of terror attacks done in their name.
The point is that NONE of this is okay. Demonizing, attacking, and slaughtering people because of their religion or nationhood (along with belittling/justifying such bigotry) is DESPICABLE!
@@josejaquez4100
Twice now, my attempts to reply to you (despite acting only in good faith) have been deleted. Hopefully, this message will get through.
Perhaps this was not your intention, but your answer seems pretty dismissive of the fact that hundreds (if not THOUSANDS) of innocent people were brutally murdered for being Jewish, even before Israel was an organized state.
I will openly acknowledge that Arab Palestinians (some of whom are dear friends of mine) have been and continue to be ruthlessly mistreated and brutalized by Israeli forces, but death tolls do not concern me as much as the fact that all this senseless violence in ongoing in the first place.
This fighting MUST be put to an end! It is not only a moral stance but a practical necessity that Israelis and Palestinians coexist as neighbors. The Arab world is already normalizing relations with Israel. With any luck, this will help foster a lasting peace between nations.
In a nutshell they are not Zionists now,but once their king comes they'll become ones
The differents is just 🤏🏻
😂😂😂😂😂😂These things are not human they crazy
@@gabbygabs5766 You guys are justifying the existence of israel
These guys are walking contradictions by their very own words. Wow. Talk about rationalizing
That's exactly what I was thinking. And this whole view of gentiles/palestinians as being slaves when the messiah comes is, imho, a far worser perspective on non-jews than whatever the 'extreme' perspective that secular jews harbor for non-jews, but whether "anti-zionist" jew or the most extremist, ultra-nationalistic/zionistic, secular jew, both perspectives are disgusting.
@@noose1911 How is the secular Jew perspective disgusting?
@@rockysandman5489 I meant the zionist/ultra-nationalistic secular view. If it's a view that seeks some sort of peaceful coexistence with Palestinians- as peoples whom have put all the previous decades of post-1948 or so behind them and are about dealing with what is just the 'NOW', that is governed in whatsoever way that isn't resulting in mindless wars/endless deaths/receiving funding from abroad, then I'm fine with just how that will manifest- whether it's a non-mono ethnic centric state that instead is comprised of jews and others whose roots in the previous decades/centuries goes back to that land or its a 2-state sort of thing.
@@noose1911 What's wrong with a Zionist/nationalistic secular view? Before you go into that though, what do you think a Zionist or nationalistic view on the matter even is?
@@noose1911 Yeah, but that only happens once a third temple made of fire descends from heavens, so I'm cool with that...
- You are an anti-zionist, right?
- Yes but I am in a hurry.
Bro had a lot to say on the subject 😂😂😂
iam looking in the comments for context on that same guy :'D
The world is a messed up place.
These people is exam to Muslims from God. That's everything
@@fatimaesam9038 al lah kalb dog god
@@rollinball9581Are you talking about yourself? Why do you call yourself a bitch! Stop consuming drugs
@@rollinball9581
Allah is name of God in Islam like Hashem to you so Don't insult the creator of the universe. Your are without brain .
@@rollinball9581
Allah is name of God in Islam don't insult the creator of the universe .
I'll paraphrase: "We have been exiled from this land. It's against the wish of God that Jews have their own state." But yet this does not prevent them from living in Israel. Cognitive dissonance is going on here. We shouldn't, but we do.
As an Israeli I always thought they were crazy. After this video I actually understand them better. They have been living here much before the state of Israel was declared, they were against it, but it was declared nevertheless. But that doesn't mean they should leave to them. They are simply living regardless of who is in charge
many of them lived there for hundreds of years, under Ottomans, Seljuks, British, etc.
What verse in the Bible support this position?
So the jest is:-
We bought this land, this is hours but also we are in exile, in the same land where we are supposed to be exiled, this land is for Israel but also this land is not Israel
In a nutshell hypocrisy is nuts.
Their ancestors never were in the Holy Land; these are converted Jews who have nothing to do with the original Jews of Judea. Only Palestinian Jews are in their ancestral land.
Well they've been living there for 1000s of years anyway. It was only the people of Jerusalem and the surrounding areas that the Romans had kicked out. So many Jews remained "in exile" whilst still living in the same land
What it means to be in exile for them is that they don't have a state that they run themselves, and more importantly, they don't have the temple. And there's only ONE temple in ONE place in the world, which cannot be replicated anywhere else
You are the biggest hypocrite of them all, zionists are the most corrupted people.
Why are they living in ISrael for if they think its too early?
Several of them answered that. They see no problem with religious Jews living in Israel, studying Torah, praying and following mitsvot, as Jews have done for many centuries, whether under British, Ottoman, Mamluk, Araab, Byzantine, or Roman rule, after the destruction of the Temple and the beginning of the exile. They just think the country shouldn't be ruled by Jews, especially not a secular Jewish government, before the Messiah arrives.
For the record, I don't share that opinion, but that is their opinion.
@@grasmereguy5116 their opinions are hypocritical .... if they think Israel shouldnt exist before the messiah comes then they simply shouldnt be here
ANd no they dont think the land should be ruled by PAlestinians .....yet they will go and protest with them ....fools
Its the same like islamist living in the west and calling for a caliphate :D
Because theyre hypocrites, they benefit from living in israel. These people have zero jewish values in their hearts
@@freejay3 Well, again, for the record, I don't agree with them, nevertheless, most of them who say they're anti-Zionist, with the exception of Neturei Karta, will not demonstrate for the Palestinians. That's one particular extreme group. But I don't see it as hypocritical necessarily. Their attitude is that Jews have always lived there, and should always live there as long as they follow Torah and mitsvot, some come from families that lived there before Israel became independent, but they don't want to live under a non-religious Jewish government before Moshiach and prefer living under a non-Jewish government. Meanwhile they'll just isolate themselves from the Israeli government as much as possible. It seems consistent to me. I'm a secular Zionist myself, but I'm glad the question was asked because a lot of anti-Israel people love to say that the motive of anti-Zionist ultra-Orthodox Jews was pro-Palestinian, but many were clear that they pray and hope for an ingathering of all the world's Jews in Eretz Yisra'el and a holy kingdom be established and that the Arabs should either serve them or even "evaporate" when that day comes. They're not quite the allies of the Palestinians they're imagined to be.
Religious fundamentalists of all creeds are so much alike.
i mean that's because the west and africa+ middle east basically only have 3 religions, it's 3 flavours of ice cream
fundamentalists get very different in religions with different origins and pagan religions
Religion doesn't bring people closer to enlightment. That's for sure.
It rather created division.
They all feel better than the others. "We against them".
Jews should have learned from '39-'40.
They didn't . They also think they are "über" the others. Just like the nazi's did.
@@pedronabais1456 3 flavors, more like one flavor and adding either sprinkles, oreos, or chocolate chips on top.
rule 1 of atheism islam is always worse
You live in Israel, You pray in Israel, Israel protects you from harm yet you are not allowed to have a country. Ask not what you can do for Israel but what Israel can do for you .
I had absolutely no idea, of the underlying complexities regarding ideology and faith in Israel. There is a multiplicity of interpretations concerning the land, yet the common denominator among most, espouses the presumed sub-human status of the Palestinian people.
This is both intriguing and tragic.
As a muslim my parents said " you cannot eat at Christian's house because the food might not be Halal, but you can sleep there, no problem".
When it comes to the Jews they said "you can eat at the Jewish house because their food is Halal, but never ever sleep at their house".
It's starting to make sense why they said that.
This hurts my heart. I hope you know there are plenty of us out here who revile this way of thinking and would love to serve you a kosher/halal meal and a safe, comfortable room to sleep in. Only friendship between us all 🖤🕍❤️🕋💚
@@Ellen-wi6fz I'm sorry to be hurtful. It is what they said. As a parent I always teach good manners and tolerance of all people, as there is good and bad in all races and religion. I am not a fanatical muslim but a peace loving tolerant one. Even my parents saying that also taught us respect for everyone because we are all human, everyone is equal and will be judged for their actions on judgement day. I am sorry again.
@@Ellen-wi6fz do you condemn the atrocities/war crimes that are being committed by the IDF rn in Gaza?
do you understand this in an extreme sect right of judaism right? most jews are normal people. your parents would not let you eat at or sleep at the houses of the islamic equivalent of this sect.
I'm glad to hear that you finally understood that your parents where antisemites, assuming you actually understood and didn't just do something stupid like affirming their delusional conspiracy beliefs based on a video of a few individuals inside some fringe Jewish cult and made some unreasonable sweeping generalization from what they say as if it is characteristic of what the majority of jews believe?
“They’ll evaporate going up and never back down “
People of peace and justice right here
Leaving something to God makes peaceful people violent? Is that really the dumb take you're making your position?
Neturei karta. Theyre a minority cult not a representation for anything really read about them
Do you want Quran verses about Christians and Jews, who should be hunted down like animals?
@@silverbackhayabusaGod said to enslave them? Doesn’t sound very merciful or peaceful at all does it. Use your own brain for a second
Leaving something to god? And what punishment is gods punishment if they are already being punished, Palestinians and the muslim world will be the successors, im not even muslim and can see it coming
I'm an "ultra orthodox" jew and I have always been taught that when the Messiah will come it will be in a miraculous way and the sanctity will be so much visible that every single human, and even the whole creation will recognize G-d's kingdom and will serv Him faithfully, to be part of his Holiness.
It's surprising for me to see how much difference can I have with some ultra orthodox branches, even in central tenets such as the redemption.
You must have been raised in a more esoteric branch.
@@samluke8121 yes, I was raised in a Hasidic community, a pretty numerous and mainstream one, and as you say we follow the Kabalistic teachings, but the thing is that almost all the interviewed in the video are actually Hasids, from one or another Hasidic branch. All the radical anti-zionists are Hasids (but not all Hasids are anti-zionist)...
What you're saying is more like the second guy's explanation. Shout out to both of you!
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎If God exiles a people from a land
▪︎For their Transgressions,Wickedness
▪︎To reestablish State with Messiah
▪︎If reestablish State without Messiah
▪︎Following Religion or Corrupting Religion?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings I don't know. I will try to explain my view on the matter:
1. I'm not the secretary of G-d and I hate the habit of playing G-d's secretary. And as such I don't know why G-d exiled the Jewish people. Just as I don't know why the holocaust happened, and I don't know why things happen in general.
Yes, there's some exegesis that say that the Jewish people where exiled because of lack of "gratuitous love" or some other sin. But this is not necessarily because we know what's in G-d's mind but because our Jewish way to act is always, no matter what happens, to look inside. To learn from every situation what can we do better. What could be done rightly.
2. Not all orthodox jews agree on the matter. Most think that the state needs to be built by the Messiah, but some sustain that the coming of the Messiah consist of difference parts, and the "beginning of the redemption" is to establish a State and starting with the "gathering of Israel".
3. Most orthodox jews, even Those that on principle oppose the idea of the establishment of the State before the coming of the Messiah, agree that today, after the fact that non religious jews already established one, we can be part and defend it, because millions of Jewish lives depend on it.
4. Unlike the religious zionists, the ultra orthodox tend to see Israel not a manifestation of the Messiah or G-d's kingdom but as another secular state just as any other state in the world, with the particularity that it's habitated by a Jewish majority. So, in my view, doesn't apply your deduction.
I appreciate someone who says "we dont know what will happen"
Because Nobody truly knows what will happen in reality
These are some extreme opinions right there. I love how honest everyone is, it's so funny!
They don't even know what TH-cam is so of course they are open and honest.🤣
Yes they live through an old religious book and haven't learned anything about the modern world we live in. It is sad because they are full of good intentions but don't realize they need a State to live in right now to survive.
The Admor of Satmar is the only one who said what they say, and the sources for this are in the Babylonian Talmud. But in front of him were hundreds of other rabbis who ruled the opposite of him. And according to the written Torah it is written: If there is one rabbi out of three who opposes, then the two of them decide what to do. And here in our case there were hundreds of rabbis against one. And everything is a divine move, and we have no understanding why God made it so that secularists would establish a state, but there is a reason for it. Of course, we religious Jews are not happy that a secular state was established, but it saved millions from certain death in exile.
@@user-zg3nb1mk5b26 exo 23 2 You are not to follow the majority in doing wrong, and you are not to testify in a lawsuit so as to follow the majority and pervert justice.
@user-zg3nb1mk5b I agree with your view entirely, Hashem is the one controlling history and it’s our job to do the best in our current time. That being said though I think it’s important to note that it wasn’t only the Admor MiSatmar who opposed Zionism, many other Rabbis at the time also disagreed with the foundational principles of the movement as well. A more accurate critique is, as you said, the fact that we don’t know why Hashem let secularists found the state, but that was 70+ years ago and in our generation we have to unite and move forward as one. Most Zionists today are not anti-religious as their predecessors were, and I think Haredim similarly should less be opposed to the state but rather lead it by good example.
They can’t even answer directly when he asks then whos land is it lol
They hate Israel and don't believe in the secular state and they are afraid to talk frankly, they hate Israelis and Israel, I have been there many times
They support Hamas, they are token Jews
The Admor of Satmar is the only one who said what they say, and the sources for this are in the Babylonian Talmud. But in front of him were hundreds of other rabbis who ruled the opposite of him. And according to the written Torah it is written: If there is one rabbi out of three who opposes, then the two of them decide what to do. And here in our case there were hundreds of rabbis against one. And everything is a divine move, and we have no understanding why God made it so that secularists would establish a state, but there is a reason for it. Of course, we religious Jews are not happy that a secular state was established, but it saved millions from certain death in exile.
Yes, because it's an uneducated question. There is no ”belongs”. Everything in this life is temporary. If you're religious, then there may be a permanent afterlife. If not, then the sooner you face this fact, the better. Don't get caught up in the fantastical illusion of ”belonging”.
Pretty much all of them answered directly that it does not matter right now. Don't know if you watched another video maybe
This people, with similar ideology, are being invited to Iran and supported. Beyond bizarre
You think that's bizarre, look at them being invited by "secular" Western lefties. 😂
😁
It's only the Neturei Karta that travels to Iran and elsewhere.
It is said that the false messiah (dajjal) will come from Iran; aspahan exactly; and Iranian Jews will accompany him .
lol, many muslims think the problem is zionism, and think these people have compassion for them
,,Once the messiah comes ,, men they really waiting for the Dajjal
I've been thinking about this exact thing lately, if they didn't recognise the messiah the first time he was on earth what are the odds they'll recognise him at his second coming and not take the dajjal as their messiah? God help us all
@@zzzzakariya Christians don't recognize the prophet either
"When the Messiah comes, what happens to the Palestinians?
"Well theyre slaves."
Yochanan, are we the baddies?
👏👏👏
I love it when he calls them out on their wrong/evil mindset.
This people are really bizarre. I guess it’s an example where religion is o. for the masses.
Why do they look like this?
These people don't believe Israel should exist but live in Israel nonetheless. They receive IDF protection but are exempt from military service. Does any more need to be said?
You have to keep in mind that Jews were already living peacefully in Palestine alongside Muslims and Christians before Israel became a state. They don't need IDF protection.
That sounds very paradoxal doesnt it? You exile yourself in the forbidden country? Like can’t you just choose somewhere else until your messiah comes??
Yes
IDF protection from whom? Why is protection necessary?
He explained that. They're allowed to visit and live just like they have done in the past before their was an Israel. It just so happens that there's an Israel now but that's not a reason as to why they shouldn't live in the land.
This is the reason for the 109. Always remember, the small hat is only a friend to themselves
Happy 9th birthday bro
@@Agameylor1529 Happy Metzitzah B’ Peh Day to you
Absolutely insane take. First because not every Jew is even remotely close to the haredi, and second because 80% of the people responsible for the 109+ expulsions (if you add the pogroms) think literally like this. Ya can't defend the actions of a religious fundamentalist as a way to critique religious fundamentalism, that's just not how this shit works
11:20 "They connect through us to God" - 😅😅😅😅 - Why are they in exile in Palestine and not in the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in Russia? These hypocrites only don't want serve in the IDF.
Good point, you'd think abhoring a Jewish led secular state, would be the perfect reason for the oblast to actually be Jewish majority, hehe.
There has been some deplorable and depraved behaviour recorded and often exhibited online by the IDF as well as the atrocities committed. War crimes of all sizes and forms. I don't blame these people for not wanting to be a part of that
They bought that land and dont like the Israeli government
Jews are not Russian. Jews don't have nationality
They believe that the modern state of Israel is unrelated to the Biblical era theocracy.
Yeah, this just confirms for me how totally repugnant religious fundamentalism is, regardless of what brand you’re smoking.
Or how quick you are to judge people 1000 times wiser than you.
@@MosheNUllmanNope. Fundamentalism is mind cancer. Any rational person can quickly see the horrible and deleterious effects of such a mindset.
@@MosheNUllmanwiser?😂😂😂😂these pedos are wiser in a book of falsehood 😂😂😂”wiser”
@@MosheNUllmanboth of u r crazy
@@MosheNUllman What's the definition of wise?
The irony of the last guy talking bad about others taking part in a "Western culture which is not us, it is not Jewish" when he and almost all Ultra Orthodox dress in very old European style, many use a Germanic language, (Yiddish,) eat Euro/Ashkenazi food, etc. etc.. I respect people's right to dress, decorate, speak, sing how they choose, but it's pretty ironic of him to act superior to and bash other Jews with ostensibly "western culture" while so much about him and his community is "western" Jewish culture.
At least aesthetically. And yes....The dress while denoting religious characteristics is of an Eastern European origin, which was then developed and adopted as the attire of Orthodox Jewry.
I think he means "secular" and "humanist" when he says Western, rather than refering to other cultural aspects. Thats the part that matters to them, following the Mitzvot or not. I don't think he means it in a way related to dress or cuisine or language or other more "wordly" aspects of culture.
They got stuck in time when in exile in Europe and not even think to revert back to more Israelite like attire (which I think Orthodox Jews at least try to) - interestingly a similar phenomenon with Samaritans who still wear fez when they're doing service though.
last guy is on the truthhood
The last guy encapsulates the sentiment. They are MIAA - Make Israel Ancient Again. People will have sacrifices and the Sanhedrin, and kings, and multiple wives, and prayer - as if life at that time was somehow paradise and returning to ancient times is the pinnacle of human existence. Vais Meer. 😮
That Jewish woman covered in all black remind me of women in Afghanistan
i want to ask "do you think israelis/palestinians should have same equal rights to live"
They already answered this question. They said the P have their roles. Aka being salves.
@@ghofranesalhi7386 They literally said palestinians should rule over them. Are you dumb ?
I love the fact that they all talk Modern Hebrew. That's the "Zionist language"
Not exactly. Modern hebrew is just ancient hebrew that was modernised.
@@sh25098not really modern Hebrew is not even Semitic
@@ghst4487not really , modern danish is not even potatoes
@@dogbert52 idc about Danish or Ashkenazi both are Europeans they belong in Europe
@@dogbert52😁
They keep saying that they are in exile but they are in the land of Israel 👀😳🤯🙇🏽🙆🏽🤦🏽🤷🏽🙄
Land of Israel, not state of israel.
You can live somewhere and not claim it as your own… they made that clear
@@nathanj109 then they shouldn't be in the land if that's what they believe
@@YadinZedek777 zionists would agree with you. But they have a long history there and believe they have a right to be there as long as they aren’t in control.
@@Seanonyoutube well they aren't in control so they are good
“We are in Exile”, so what brought you to palestine ? Why didnt you stay in belarus or ukraine or poland where youre from
They're either very inarticulate or they're purposefully cryptic.
They know their beliefs are repugnant to others . So they are loathe to say it out loud
Well spotted, thought im the only one. There is something way off with these things.. they heavily contradicting, confusing and seems mentally disturbed in a evil way.
pilpul in a nutshell lul
If they believe that Israel should not exist until the Messiah comes, then what are they doing in Israel?
Some lived there before Zionist
@@criticalthinker1123 they believe that they're not supposed to be there so why are they there, majority of those people we're not there before the creation of Israel, there was a population continuously living in the land but that's not them
@@YadinZedek777 They believe that they are not supposed to conquer and rule. Most of them don't have a problem with living there
@@YadinZedek777 they believe they don’t deserve to govern at this point, not that they don’t deserve to live there at all (although some extreme versions of them do believe they can’t live there at all)
@@Discoursivist watch it again they believe that there isn't supposed to be a Jewish state or a state of Israel. In reality there is no one ruling over them. The belief is specifically speaking about a King.
Crazy clowns
Anti-Semitic
@@thestruggleisallthatmatter8833 Anti-crazy.
@@thestruggleisallthatmatter8833weirdo. You thrive off that label that means nothing now of days.
most Israelis agree. they are crazy clows
@@Warhammer416 It means hating middle eastern people speaking Arabic, but they are still trying to hijack the term. Converted colonialist genocidal clowns.
They Are waiting for al Dajjal...
8:39 Didn’t expect a pro-British Empire position here. That was just wild.
they are the nicest among the bunch
This mess is theirs. All Jews Muslims and Christians were living in peace under the Ottoman rules until the anglophones wanted the oil rich lands to themselves and provoked the Arabs into revolt against Turks. The rest is history.
@@அவானிஉயர்ந்தது The British wanted a puppet government over the whole of Palestine to act as a buffer state to protect their control over the Suez canal - the gateway to India - from competing empires, notably the French and Russian/Soviet. When Stalin came to power, he supported a different group of zionists who wanted an independent state, as a proxy war against Britain. Britain deployed some 100,000 men to Palestine to fight the zionists, but ultimately accepted defeat, in large part due to American pressure, and a newly elected government in the UK that wanted to spend money on health care rather than the empire. So yes, Britain played a role, but was against the creation of Israel, which was Stalin's personal project. The desire to control oil rich lands was far more important for the creation of Iraq, control over Mosul etc, but for Palestine, they wanted a friendly puppet government due to proximity to the Suez. However, trying to maintain control of Palestine meant confiscating weapons to stop people killing each other, but the zionists were getting large shipments of weapons from Czechoslovakia, while Palestinians were left with very little to defend themselves once British forces were given the order to pack up and leave. Britain didn't even vote in favour of partition at the UN. Yes, they shouldn't have been there, but they didn't want this (unlike the current British government)
If they believe they need to live in exile until the Messiah comes then why are they living there now?
Because for them it isn't a question of physical location, but the question of politically running a state. (Plus, even they know that in the war of 1948, Arabs murdered and ethnically cleansed their communities, the communities of anti-Zionists just as much as Arabs murdered and ethnically cleansed Zionist communities.)
They are the hypocrits that's why God punished them they always change the law by their own convenience, look at their contradictions like they can decieve God
because they're stupid hypocrites who believe in an invisible man
They can live there but they can't create a government they will leave as they live anywhere else like Germany or UK etc..
(That's what I understand)
They consider so called "secular Jews" not as real Jews like themselves. So the government for them is not Jewish.
“They connect trough us”
Sickening
How is that very different from connecting through a priest or a pope? Both ridiculous
@@ofir_al_or a church. Christians are hypocrites 😂
@@ofir_al_I suppose you don’t need to be of a specific ethnicity to become a priest or pope
@@ofir_al_anyone can become a priest
As a Scottish outsider looking in Judaism is a strange cult
They missed their Messiah when he was here 2000 years ago.
This has often been used by Palestinians ( wittingly or not) as an endorsement of there point of view, however, it’s not that these people believe in the Palestinian cause, it’s a procedural issue that offends them…..”how dare we have a secular state before redemption “…with out speciconcerns for Palestinians
Yeah and there are many Muslims around the world that only support the Palestinians because they're Muslims, not because they are against the concepts of settler-colonialism and land theft. Very few entire groups of people are entirely consistent in their support for a cause.
But even before nabi Isa comes, there will be a global caliphate and everyone in the world will live under Shari'atu Allah
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎If God exiles a people from a land
▪︎For their Transgressions,Wickedness
▪︎To reestablish State with Messiah
▪︎If reestablish State without Messiah
▪︎Following Religion or Corrupting Religion?
@@agentdoodo299 Muslims are against land theft. What they're not against is for Islam to impose (its) rule of law and justice system, just as others would want secularism or liberalism to impose (its) rule of law and justice system. Right of governance doesn't belong to ethnic or geographic groups, but to truth. All people recognise this.
When Muslims say the land belongs to Palestinians, the point is that Palestinians living and owning land there for generations, have the right to live without constant fear of eviction or literal settler terrorists, not that the Palestinians shouldn't be ruled over by a (just) state, even a non-Arab one.
It's the same as when people say that it should be a secular state. That's their conception of justice. By saying that, nobody would say they are advocating for secularism to steal land. What they mean is that the Palestinians should be able to live safely and justly and the way to achieve that is by secularism.
@@agentdoodo299 that IS what your wrong its not they are Muslims its just you are brainwashed that way
Ultra Orthodox Jews (Haredim) are not monolith people.
1. This applies for the Ashkenazi Haredim. The ones who live in the West Bank settlements and Israel proper are the Haredim (like the Hassidic Ger, Belz, Vishnitz, Breslovs, Chabad etc and the Yeshivish/Misnagdic Perushim) who are non-Zionist but regard the State of Israel as similar to other gentile government of the other countries. They oppose the secular Zionism but accept that Israel is their country and their land.
That is why they participate in the government and obey the laws just like how their grandparents live in the diaspora. And somehow they will fight for their own interests too (for instance to get exemption for Torah studies and get government sponsors, religious authority etc).
They regard Israeli Jews who aren’t observant as fellow Jews who are deviated and have to be brought closer to Judaism as per their belief. They also believe as long as Messiah has not come yet, they are still in spiritual exile despite acknowledging they are in the Land of Israel with the rest of People of Israel.
Some of them are even pro-Israel like the Chabad and the Nanach Breslovers and many Misnagdic/Yeshivish Jews while maintaining very thin line definition of non-Zionist. They do Kiruv (religious outreach) towards secular communities to bring them closer to Judaism.
Some especially in the Misnagdic communities do participate in the Israeli Rabbinate and have ties with the Ashkenazi Datim (Religious Zionists/Modern Orthodox olim from US/Central Orthodox olim from UK).
The Hassidic Haredim unite under Agudat Yisrael while the Yeshivish/Misnagdic Haredim unite under Degel Hatorah. Both groups unite under United Torah Judaism.
Regarding Sephardi Haredim like the rabbis in the Shas but they are Zionist and participate in the Israeli Rabbinate. Many Sephardi/Mizrahi communities who are despite secular and traditionalists still regard them as binding figures.
2. Meanwhile the Haredim who specifically live in Meah Shearim which is the stronghold for anti-Zionist Ultra-Orthodox Jews (Satmar, Dushinsky, Toldos Aharon, Toldos Avrohom Yitzchok etc and some Sephardi Haredim anti Zionists) do not want anything to do with the government and the State of Israel. They could accept any other gentile government as long as it is not by Jewish government whether it is religious or secular.
They do not accept the Israeli Rabbinate, neither Agudat Yisrael nor Degel Hatorah. They have their own ruling council named Edah Hacharedis.
According to their belief, only gentiles can rule the Land of Israel. They acknowledge that the land is biblically belonging to the Jews but must be ruled by gentiles as long as the Messiah has not come yet.
These Haredim do not participate in political argument Israel vs Palestine. They don’t have opinion about that. If one day the government belong to the Palestinians, they will just live in their own stronghold and do not want their daily activities disturbed. If let say the Palestinian government want them to join army, prevent them doing their religious worship then either they will fight against it too or move out of the land just like any similar stories of Jewish history.
In the video, some of the guys have different reasonings about being anti-Zionist (some is mild, some is strong) denoting their different background of the Haredi groups within Meah Shearim
3. The Neturei Karta is also part of Meah Shearim and is a staunch anti-Zionist group but a small fraction under Rabbi Moshe Hirsch go further by showing support of the Palestinian movement by joining rallies and expressing thoughts on forums and talks.
These small fringe part of Neturei Karta people are put on cherem (excommunicated) by the Edah HaCharedis and not every NK member in Israel support them.
Neturei Karta despite looked like a Hassidic group with peyot is actually a Misnagdic Haredi group. The Satmar Haredim who are the most outspoken anti-Zionist in the Meah Shearim do not want NK to be associated with them.
what about the yemenite jews living in US who are anti-isra3li state, anti-zi0nist and pro-palestine
This comment should be pinned.
Thank you for taking the time to explain it all❤
Didn't know the loudest voice of anti-Zionist Haredim are actually excommunicated. 🤣
P.S. I'm curious but what happens if an Israeli Arab (say, Lucy Aharish) becomes a Prime Minister somewhat, will they recognize the state then?
This might be the most accurate and neutraly informative comment I have seen regarding Haredim on the internet in the last few years.
Thank you for this.
It's painful to see so many people completely ignorant about the nuance of Haredi Jewish life (both amongst other Jews AND gentiles).
There are books about that?
There isn't a religion on this earth that Europeans have not corrupted.
They were brought to Europeans
Islam.. Islam is the only exception
Seriously.. Why else are Muslims portrayed as terrorists who are there to take over lands from white people on Europe and America?
When all the Muslims do, is just immigrate to work for better pay. Matter of fact non-Muslims do the exact same thing but we get the most crap for it
tf you talkin about? european christians got their religion from the jews, if anything its middle easterns with their non ending 9999 different prophets and killing eachother for whos prophet is better mohamed or jesus or abraham or whatever, classic middle eastern stuff you know, stoning people to death for beleving the wrong religion, but sure its the europeans fault
You spelt enriched wrong.
@@Doctor.Kapow. No the fuck they did not
We don't own the land, any land, the land owns us, feeds us, builds us. Respect it, share it!!
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Great answer
Willing to share you house?
Perhaps with somone that views you as food?
@@dogbert52 give them equal rights and we shall see. Remember that Bibi on record has said that he funded Hamas to cause division within Gaza
Can I share your property as well?
how can you be exiled from a country that you live in??
Go figure...
Well, I believe most live on welfare. So they enjoy that. And they live in fantasy land. Educate them, let them work like everyone else.
Spiritually exiled I guess and refused to have a governing body as well.
Religious exile…as long as the messiah isn’t revealed, they are in exile…doesn’t matter where they are living.
It makes no sense
Now I understand why stones and trees speak....
Bingo!!
Do you understand why Hamas hides behind women and children and steal money from people?
Reminder that Muslims feel the exact same way
I'm moroccan and i Can Say that Muslims think the same way so...
more people need to see your content. Thank you!!!
Watching them speak show how their religion is fucked up
These people are living in an idealized past. Even the most faithful among them can't obey all 613 mitzvot or commandments unless a Temple is standing -- yet there will be no new temple until or unless Moshiach comes. Even then he may have something more modern in mind that doesn't involve daily animal sacrifices. Most of that food was either consumed by the kohanim or sold to the public anyway, wasn't it? Will a scapegoat still be chased into the Negev every year?
Do we have a new prophet?
The Messiah came 2,000 Years ago! His name is Jesus.
The Quran is the answer may Allah guide u to the right path 🕋 🤲
@@GomezBro That Messiah didn't rebuild the Temple -- unless perhaps you mean the one in Salt Lake City, and that whole process took centuries -- or gather in the exiles. Instead, the veil covering the Holy of Holies was ripped in two, unbeknownst to the priests who acted as its custodians. Before long even more Jews were expelled from the Holy Land. So we're talking about a Greco-Roman Christ instead of the Jewish Moshiach.
@@MohammedHassan-ym8qf What question does the Qur'an answer? Are most Muslims happy on earth?
Really interesting channel. Very eye-opening, thanks!
its funny they are all saying it's not their land and they shouldn't be there, then why are they living there? If you don't believe in Israel, then go and live somewhere else, they are living a lie against their own beliefs and principles.
Living there is fine. Establishing a government or state such as Israel is, in their minds, tantamount to trying to defy the will of God. Most Jews do not share these fanatical beliefs. They are practical and realize they must take fate into their own hands.
"Tell me, why is there a Palestinian Resistance again?"
the plo was tho in more countriys then israel they killed jews in swedeen to
And still the world thinking Palestinian are the terrorist for protecting their land and families
The problem is that people dont understand how tribal jews really are.
Exactly, you see it in this video and in NYC too. Disturbing to say the least
Religious Jews most Jews aren’t and also not all religions Jews
@@ricco6270lol I'm sure you are not desturbed by Islamists and how tribal they are😂.
@@annamoris9753 The secular ones are just as tribal, maybe even worse.
@@fuwa9616 I’m secular Israeli Jew, I think that we have a sense of community but not tribalism .. and we deep with threats on our security so we have a feeling of concern and conation for each other
Amazing insight into how beliefs and indoctrination have peoples minds completely skewed. Nevertheless, its great to hear honest thoughts, however deluded and out of date they may be.
1 of your best videos 👍🏻
100000% Heavy indoctrination. Noticed the same, it makes them even to think like they not human.
Never has the torah said that Israel cant have a state or that non jewish souls will be "evaporated" they dont follow the torah themselves.
This makes me cry, I can’t believe in the year 2024 so many cultures are living with these views of inequality, superiority and the inevitability of slavery. PARENTS…STOP teaching your kids this BS!!!!!!!!!!!! Child abuse!
What cultures are you talking about here exactly? I hope you don't associate anything these few unknowledgeable individuals from this fringe Jewish cult believe on to Jewish culture and religion as a whole.
There is a reason they are only a tiny fringe cult, they are light years away from even what other Ultra orthodox jews believe.
But assuming you didn't then I see what you mean, we here in Israel are surrounded by such cultures.
In all Arab countries here anyone that is not Muslim is are considered lesser people that need to be humiliated and know their " inferiority" by a long list of degrading practices the most known being having to pay "protection money" to the Muslim rulers.
We as jews lived in the middle east for thousands of years, even before it was conquered by the Arab Muslim armies occupied the all of it and beyond, but even though we were relative to them considered the indigenous peoples of these lands that are now considered Arab Muslim and have since been ethnically cleansed from them we have not done a single terrorist attack, fancy that... I guess it is possible to not be a Barbarian...
Someone need to hurry and tell it to the woke university staffs...
Their concept of “slavery” is not slavery that you think of. They view themselves as servants of God and in the future everyone will be doing that together
It's as if each one was just more disillusioned than the previous one 😂
As a Jew, I completley do not agree with anything these people say. Not about Zionist not about Palestinians being slaves or anything. They really really really do not represent the accepted view of Judaism
Whats happening in gaza right now show what judaism is, no matter you stand with them or not, killing innocent civialins for 75 years
@@Brownies85126
who started killing inoccent civilians for over 75 years?
who started every war?
not the jews...
Theya actually do. The only difference between them and the religious Zionist is that they believe they have to be in exile and can't have a state until the Messiach arrives. Everything else is the same
@@Brownies85126 there is so much misinformation in this comment lol
@@brookeschwartz8470 misinformation? Pick a book honey, and watch The current events in gaza, no misinformation you just lack knowelge
And their Messiah will be killed by Jesus pbuh 😂.
Anti Christ. The anti Christ will deceive a lot of man kind and have people worshipping him. Yeshua will destroy him. It's going to be crazy times. Muhammad won't be able to help you. Make ישוע your refuge now before that day.
Amen!
He seems like talking about islamic jesus in quran@@abravenewclockworkorange.7875
Judaism as a religion exists thousands of years. People should know there is a separation between secular jews and religious ones, and there are many different jewish groups and ideologies..
do arab jews exist?
Youre just a babbling moron. Please stop bothering the adults.
People know that Judaism is a religion, therefore, there are no secular Jews.
there is no good jew
@@amouri0307 what the hell are you saying.. you probably don't have friends.
Very informative. Good question and interviews Corey.
Humans waiting for a divine being to guide them, not realizing out fate is in our own hands. Break these shackles of division, we are all one people. No one people should be slaves to any other, and if your religion describes the rest of the world as "gentile" to make you feel special about yourself, that's proof your religion was written by ancient humans and not some all-knowing all-loving entity.
Fate is in our own hands. Say it again. The funniest thing I ever heard.
Dude please either find G-d or seriously screw yourself.
Our fate in our own hands? We do amazing when we adopt atheism for our religion. Just look at China and the USSR, and the hundreds of millions of dead people under such regimes. People will always find a way to divide themselves, heck even in some cities around the world, people of the same race, same ethnicity, same political beliefs, same neighbourhood, same religion beat each other to death over a football team they support. I disagree with the Jews on many things as I am a Muslim, but to claim they should stop being Jew because it is divising is silly.
@@lucidniprogramer589 I agree. We cannot erase religion...or the idea of it. We'll create our own (division, cult, philosophy..etc).
Los organismos siempre tienden a separarse y o unirse segun muchas cosas. Asi funciona la vida
@@lucidniprogramer589 You have zero idea of what going on china and USSR. They saved millions.
02:40 As Muslims we already serve God ..praying 5 times a day minimum (the pious do extra prayers ) ..we too believe in the Come back of Jesus peace be upon hime he will spread justice ..in our unjust world
At least they're honest when they admit they don't know. Their main problem is not extending that reality to the rest of what they believe they think they know.
See that land? Been there for more than a billion years. Still be there when you and I are gone. So arguing over who owns it is like two fleas arguing over who owns the dog they live on.
The Admor of Satmar is the only one who said what they say, and the sources for this are in the Babylonian Talmud. But in front of him were hundreds of other rabbis who ruled the opposite of him. And according to the written Torah it is written: If there is one rabbi out of three who opposes, then the two of them decide what to do. And here in our case there were hundreds of rabbis against one. And everything is a divine move, and we have no understanding why God made it so that secularists would establish a state, but there is a reason for it. Of course, we religious Jews are not happy that a secular state was established, but it saved millions from certain death in exile.
shows you have not studied revelations. or the book of Daniel . Genesis tells you it's the jews. the apple of his eye. you are just an antisemtic antichristian anti god person with a sad soul that will perish in flames.
But God gave us this lane
@@criticalthinker1123 If God gave you that land then let him make it so.
reminds me of a quote in arabic: wa la ghaliba ila lah, there is no victor but god
Proof that wherever the sun hits, the brains are fried.
The ultimate jewish response to the question "Are you an anti-zionist?" would be "Who is asking?"
They're "in exile" on the very land from which they're supposed to be exiled.
They're not allowed to govern the land "until the Messiah comes", even though there are thousands of Haredi communities where the religious laws are strict to a tee.
I don't know of any other group of people who say they're in exile from the land on which they are living and working and studying and all sorts, and where they're not allowed to govern over the land on which they are clearly dictating how people ought to live their lives.
If the problem is Zionism, then why haven't they left Israel already? The Second Temple is nothing; the Wailing Wall is nothing; the Mount of Olives is nothing; every Haredi community is nothing; the yeshivot are nothing; the mikvot are nothing. All these things are nothing but violating the principle that they are supposedly maintaining.
In other words, they're being selective about how the principle applies to their daily lives, and so won't allow anyone either to force them to do what isn't on their agenda or to prevent them from doing what is on their agenda.
If there is real anti-Zionism, then these Jews have neither the morality nor the religious right to remain in Israel, as they don't have the hindsight to review their own ideals and thoughts and values to the point of resolving the massive inconsistencies inherent in their logic or train of thought.
And yet they are given money by the government, I think? They're breeding like rabbits and from some sources projected to be 1/3 of Israel's population by 2060... Crazy. I hope by then Israel goes through serious changes if they want to have a viable state because they have all sorts of issues going on.
Bravooo 👏👏
Orthodox Israeli Jew here- According to the Torah, every righteous non-Jew will be rewarded as much as a Jew. The whole slave thing in the video is utter nonsense.
Read your Talmud bro.
@@msaidely I just quoted the Talmud
Is it right to occupy and force palestinian out of their homes and land like what many settler did according to you??
@@topibundar9554 Pure Arab propaganda. Arabs were only forced to leave when the village attacked. That is why Abu Ghosh remains, even till today, a Muslim village right outside Jerusalem. Their Sheikh chose peace and they were left in peace. They even serve in the IDF today.
@@judahdaneshtaol well there is a lot video documentaries out there about settlers keep harassing, attacking, and force occupying palestinian families and their homes...which one i should believe, your comment or those video??
Thank you for this. So much clarification on their stance.
Its very convenient to live on the land freely with all human rights but say you are in exile and have nothing to do with the land or its politics
Genocide is happening here
"That's just not my problem"
لا إله إلا الله وحده، صدق وعده، ونصر عبده، وأعز جنده، وهزم الأحزاب وحده ☝🏾🤲🏾
المظلومون والأبرياء هم اشد الناس فرحأ يوم القيامه عند الله ☝🏾🤲🏾
As a Muslim, a religious Jew explaining their eschatology and saying the non-believers will becomes “slaves” is not offensive at all. He’s describing his belief from the scriptures, not his opinion.
So you don't mind being ruled by jews? The muslim prerogative would be that jews and christians are to be subjugated to muslims in the coming caliphate, no?
Do you want to be a slave?.These words are endearing either
Even in your book quran also mentioned slaves ideology 😂😂 nothing different from Judaism because both are same mentality and ideologies 😂😂😂😂
Even islam have a similar ish view. At least when it comes to wars and stuff
@@testacalsI don’t understand why people refuse to acknowledge the facts of Jewish and Islamic belief. They a lack true notion equality through love. Which is fine, Christinity revolutionized the concept and forcing the rest of the world to feel the wrong is silly. Jsut live with it
Good videos, Corey
Special question for anti-zionist religious Jews. What was the sin of 12 spies, and why Second Temple was destroyed?
@DartLuke
As an “anti-Zionist” Muslim my answers to your questions are:
1) 10 of the 12 spies lacked faith in God and they feared the prospect of having to fight against an enemy that they deemed greater than themselves. (they feared the Canaanites more than they feared God)
2) They rejected Jesus Christ and he was crucified (killed by corrupt political leaders like so many of the prophets before him).
Who are the twelve spies?
Those people don't watch TH-cam.
They ancestors mostly rebelled against god and His prophets..
Jews were not in exile for 2000, Jews were there before the Islamic conquests and after the Islamic conquests, you can read about Jewish presence in every Arabic book about the history of Palestine.
Well these are Europeans Zionist not Jews...they are confused creatures created by Brittain and USA for their military projects.😂😂😂
There was a man who was in power around 90 years ago. He was very right
As an atheist from Scotland its mind blowing what people will do when they read certain books
The messiah isnae coming back dont want to burst your enthusiastic bubbles
المسيح سيأتي في نهاية العالم
ويصلي مع المسلمين
ولن يقف مع اليهود
لان اليهود يقتلون الأنبياء
والمسيح نبي
وهو مرسل من الله❤
اذا كنت ملحدا
لا يمنع أن تقرأ
القراءه جميلة
لن تفقد بصرك أو عقلك
لو قرأت قليلا في القرآن الكريم
ولن تموت لو فتحت على فيديو حقيقي عن الاسلام
تحياتي لك❤
Bro please read the Quran and if confused do a bit of research on verses to gain context. You will realise it’s the truth.
How embarrassing.
Funny how basing your worldview on ancient manmade stories can lead to a nonsensical worldview in the present. That being said, these guys are just an obvious example of a much deeper and wider problem.
indeed, as an israeli i dont understand how people seriously believe in such ideas. they're already in israel and are still talking about an exile. they should grow up and either leave israel or accept zionism one of the two
Not all ancient stories are made equal.
@r.t.5767 of course not equal, but all are manmade. Which tends to place certain limits on their insightfulness and utility thousands of years down the line in a barely recognisable society and culture.
@@neozyykun you are part of the problem
you can see the difference between people who prefer talmud's teachings over torah. One guy spoke what is actually in torah that they don't know what will happen but all of the nations will follow the messiah and workshop one God, while talmud goes in detail about how non jews should be slaves of jews etc etc
These people are clearly not anti-zionist lol
I dont think you understand, but to be honest the video and the questions dont help. Its also difficult with two questions to understand what they believe. Zionists for them are nor really jews.
religious fascism.
You obviously do not know what fascism means. Throwing around terminology that has no connection to the discussion is silly.
@@chatisawasteoftime Considering other people other than their group as "goy" and would be treated as slaves, not human etc etc. As the Talmud said, "If you eat with a Goy is the same as eating with a dog" (tospoth yebamoth 84b)
🤔It's almost like they feel superior from all human beings🤷🏻♀️
@@rositanindaalisa Do you understand Aramaic and have you studied the Talmud? If not, you're only regurgitating what Jew haters want you to believe. As for slavery, when Moshich comes, only righteous gentiles will survive. and they'll be honored to assist Jews in their service of G-d, hence the use of the word slavery--for lack of a better term. Stop with the political correct nonsense of "otherism". To Jews, gentiles are others, and there's nothing wrong with that. Too bad you aren't a Jew. To you, Jews are the "others" and guess what: we don't care. Just leave us alone.
hey these are your pro palestinians hahahahahaha
Could you collaborate with a data analyst to develop a measure, to apply to all your videos, of thinking heterogeneity across the Palestinian and Israeli communities? Obviously this is a testament to Israeli heterogeneity but would be interesting to see it in number form
I live far away from Israel and never understood why Jews are against Israel until now! You explained more in 16 minutes than everybody I speak with in my whole life!
These people seem absolutely delightful. 😂
Delightful??? They seem senseless
@@emanarabati6815 Why the hate ?
This guy with the blurred face is not a Torah follower, when the Meshiach comes he will rebuild the Temple and it will be the temple for all the people of the world. Don’t know where he got that idea of slaves.
I also was wondering
"In those days, ten people from nations of every tongue will take hold; they will take hold of every Jew by a corner of their cloak' (Zechariah 8:23) - this teaches that in the future, every Jew will be served by 2,800 servants."
@@MohammedHassan-ym8qf let them dream on 🤣
It says in the torah that "you will be a goy cohanim" a nation of priests, meaning just as today the cohanim have special avdut "service to god" for which the levites wash their hands and prepare them for korbanot, the same is true of yisrael to the cohen and the levi (the yisrael holds the land, the levi holds the cities, the cohanim serve in the temple) the teaching is that the other goyim, in the times of moshiach, they will see we serve the correct g-d, that our g-d is the king of the universe, so they will serve in relation to our holy behavior.
This is why, according to ultra orthodox jews, a jew who does not keep the mitzvot is as if he is a goy, although its true he can make tchuva if he was born jewish or had a proper giurius (took on the mitzvot fully cercumized, shomer shabbat in a jewish community ect)...then these people, because of their membership of the goy kadosh, the am yisrael, they will be able to make tchuva before the redemption BUT FOR THE EREV RAV, the inter mariers, the torah desorcrator, the sabbath desocrator, the assimilationists, the ones who do not keep kosher...there is no olam haba gauranteed for them. And gehenom or destruction of their souls is insured if they do not return obediance to hashem.
Alot of people misunderstand the story of exodus, or yesias mitzraim, as saying that g-d took us out of slavery just to show us that serving another people was wrong, or that it was harsh.... and there are SOME LIMITED ASPECTS OF THIS. "do not afflict the stranger for you once were a stranger in the land of egypt"...and so on and so forth and indeed the commandment to jews regarding slavery are so stringent, that most considered having a slave to be something that was inconvenient, and likely to create immorality (see midrash pirkei avot for reference). But in the ancient world, the word slave and servant were interchangable, a servant who lived in your household dependent on you for food had less rights then you, because you commanded your house hold "baal habiet" means master of the house, master of his children, his wife, and his servants...
Im not trying to justify what the tannach is saying here saying its evil, good, bad whatever...but I'm trying to provide some context to why the haredim in this video don't see it as a bad thing that jews would hold slaves...because they arent really our slaves in this context...they are slaves to g-d just like we are slaves to g-d, and it just so happens that the tannach says that they will serve to our benefit.. because during the galut (now) g-d has once again placed us below them in status in order to humble us, just like he did in babylon, just like he did in egypt.
@@MohammedHassan-ym8qf you very conveniently left out the last part of the sentence:
Zachariah 8:23 (Chabad) - "So said the Lord of Hosts: In those days, when ten men of all the languages of the nations shall take hold of the skirt of a Jewish man, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you."
How is it to be a liar?
These kinds of people killed Jesus.
They can’t be trusted, not a single one