Metal Gear Solid Master Collection Is Underwhelming
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0:00 Intro & Overview
03:38 Metal Gear 1 & 2
04:51 Metal Gear Solid
08:06 The Emulation
13:27 MGS2 & 3
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17:16 MGS2 & 3 Continued
19:55 Closing Remarks
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@rommebernardcutamora
Considering how fucking terrible the first one was (IMO) that's not saying much. Only played it for 30 minutes, hurdled my PS5 controller across the room and immediately deleted the game from my SSD.
@@RegBeta Maybe I Guess You're Right.
@@rommebernardcutamora
To make it clear I'm talking about the first "Ghostrunner". I haven't played the sequel and even if it's released on PS Plus Extra/Premium I might download it like the first game and probably just throw an temper tantrum (as well as my PS5 controller) and delete that game as well.
Already bought the collection 10 years ago, still holds up.
Facts. It looks and plays so good on ps3.
@princegroove i bought both the xbox and ps versions, due to having a xbox first.
This and that are literally the same thing
about a year-ish ago, the original hd collection was made unavailable to purchase. i wondered why, but then this got announced and it all made sense. 😔
unfortunately that collection is a buggy mess, compared to the original. Funny enough konami actually fix some of the bug that blupoint did for this master collection
I feel like over time people have forgotten the type of company Konami is.
Yeah it's weird. I thought everyone knew that Konami was a bunch of old Japanese guys in suits making so much money from pachinko that they don't care how many fans they shit on.
stockholm syndrome
My coworker’s young daughter is a marketing executive at Konami here in Southern California. 😆
Yesterday's enemy is today's (secretly evil) friend.
Konami is definitely on the mount Rushmore of gaming, but they're one of the most greedy, franchise killing machines out there. If Bethesda did to TES or Fallout what they did to silent hill and MGS, people would lose their minds
Konami never fails to disappoint
I am not, I am impressed, they didnt cock it up like the Silent Hill collection
Not fucking something up shouldn’t be applauded
@@TimeBomb014X You're just easily content with whatever slop they throw in front of you, like the majority of "gamers"
It's fine. The fans are just cancer af.
@@hakageryu-hz7jzhow is this slop? They are the same games you played on ps1 which you all call the best games ever made but now that they are in a collection for people on consoles which had no access to it you call it a slop? You people are delusional
Edit: the collection even includes versions which were not possible to emulate such as Japanese/preorder exclusive versions and bonuses. For all games in the pack. Yet you people are still complaining because you nitpicked extremely minor missed opportunities like resolution options. You are all entitled children. It’s sad. These are considered some of the greatest games ever made, produced on consoles which are dead and well gone from the production circle. You have been given a collection of all of the fan favourites with literally all the content that was ever made for each of them including versions which were impossible to experience even with emulators, and it was collectively less money than the standard price of a single modern game which nowadays would’ve made this collection 200+ dollars and a several hundred dollar preorder altogether with less content than this. Yet you still complain bc your pc has a SLIGHTLY better resolution. It’s actually insane. I cannot mentally fathom the pettiness.
I believe that the master collection uses linear scaling which is why mgs1 looks like blurry sheeet, they should have used nearest neighbour for the cleanest piexels. I have heard that they may be addressing this in a coming patch, but still shows the minimal effort made for these repackaged ports
Just say shit.
Bi-linear filtering... the greatest adversary of games running in 480p.
@@SebTheSamMarten 240p in this case, actually! Few PS1 games made a serious effort at 480i in gameplay (mostly reserving it for menus, artwork and FMVs), and I don't think proper progressive scan 480p was even a thing on real hardware.
I mean it looks like a PS1 game, I don't see the issue personally.
Really? I thought that 240p was left behind when we moved on to disc format. That's wild. I guess MGS1 was like, a launch title for the PSX, so it makes sense it would be the most primitive that the console was going to have available. @@LonelySpaceDetective
The blurriness in the MGS1 emulation is due to the default configuration of the emulators, which has the bilinear filter enabled, so they didn't even configure it.
Wait it's not a re-port but emulator? Horrible, since MGS1 HAS a PC version, though that has broken sound (fixable with fan patches) and lack of modern screen/controller options (many ways to fix latter but would love a port where Stealth doesn't lower the framerate to slideshow).
I don't think it looks blurry enough for it to be bilinear filtering. I could be wrong of course but that shit is a real mess and the textures still look pretty crispy here.
@@KasumiRINAI have the PC version with fixes and love it, playing it with a controller 1080p 16x9... Only a true nitpicker would complain of certain missing visual effects in cutscenes.
Sad that bleem! for Dreamcast did more for MGS1 than any other release.
@@PutkisenSetait definitely could be, but since Konami will never tell us we'll never truly know
What i really want is MGS4 Remastered
Supposedly coming in vol 2? Dont know how they will airbrush out all the PS3isms
Sadly it looks like MGS4 will never get a remaster.
We're going to have to hope they remake it from scratch.
Doubt it. No way Konami is going to put the work to remake/port it. Maybe, they'll give it to some other dev to do it, but they have a bad record.
Amen brother
I'm gonna cry if they won't bring MGS4 on new consoles.
I mean' they even made a decent port with improved gameplay mechanics of MGS3 on 3DS...
The Disc change in MGS1 is iconic, I'm glad they kept it.
Especially when the content of the game is divided based on discs, I think it's really cool when that's preserved. It's also a thing in games like Final Fantasy VIII Remastered where you're traveling through the overworld, and while it doesn't remind you to switch discs if you go back to different regions that haven't changed it _will_ tell you when you've cleared the story content of a disc on a brief intermission screen just as the original did. Those disc split points dramatically changed the structure of games to accommodate them so there's really no way to ever fully remove their influence on the original title.
especially if Vol 2 has MGS4. there's a codec joke with Otacon about switching discs on Shadow Moses. Wouldn't make sense to those who haven't played the games before if that wasn't there.
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what part do u mean
@@shadow8767DAMMIT OTACON! GET A GRIP!
MGS2 and MGS3 absolutely had content removed from their PS2 versions. MGS2 had a skateboarding mode where you could play as Snake or Raiden in a Tony Hawk Pro Skater style game mode, complete with a punk rock rendition of the MGS main theme. Removed from the HD collection and still absent here. MGS3 had a lot of content removed, including two game modes (online multiplayer and Snake vs Monkey mode) as well as all of the associated items and extras that came with those modes, such as Banana camo and Monkey Mask. The nightmare sequence was also removed, along with the radio conversations that referenced it.
that was MGS2: Substance that was for the xbox version boy.
@@iWhisperASMR The PS2 version of Substance also had the skateboarding mode.
The skateboarding game was actually a demo for Evolution Skateboarding. A game Konami made that featured Snake, Raiden, and even a vampire hunter from Castlevania as bonus unlockable characters with Big Shell and Dracula’s castle as levels.
Hmmm, to be honest, I doubt anyone is gonna miss that skateboarding mini game in mgs2, or snake vs monkey which was a reference to Ape escape.
If the VR missions made the cut, then I can make peace with what we lost
One thing I would push back on is that I like that they left in the disc swap animation. It reminds me a bit of the intermission built in to films like Lawrence of Arabia. Yeah, you could just cut that out of the home video releases, but it would take away from the context around the film.
I agree. It's nostalgic for old players but also let's new players know that this was what people had to do back in the day. Maybe if they added an option to skip it that would be a good compromise I guess.
Yeah, I find the animation cute; not to mention that they poke fun at the disc swap in MGS4, so if it were left out of the collection it may've posed a small issue if 4 gets remastered.
Another thing I push back on is the pressure sensitive buttons.
I know some like them but you guys have won this war long enough I find them very difficult, often inconsistent, quite exhausting to use for prolonged periods of time, and its way to heavily dependent on the quality of your controller, something a simple button to aim would solve for all of those problems that was generated by it being pressure sensitive.
I like a button that can just be used to aim so Ill agree to an option to enable it but I will not agree to it being the set standard.
@@videogamerNattie98I don't think that modern controllers even have pressure sensitive buttons, only the DualShock 2 (and maybe 3) had them.
@@kaisersoymilk6912 That is what I mean by it being way to heavily dependent on the quality of your controller.
Which furthers why I don't like it also even if you have a DS 2/3 if its aftermarket that doesn't guarantee it has those features. Making the game not unplayable but definitely not good if you have one that doesn't.
The coolant spray being on the right stick was part of the Xbox HD collection too. It’s intended to replace the pressure sensitive control of the spray. It never made sense anyway considering spraying lightly with the coolant spray doesn’t actually have any function in gameplay besides maybe waking guards up slower
True but during the Arsenal shootout in the hexagon room you can use it to disorient the Tengu Soliders for a no kill run so it’s got some use.
They could've used the PS5's adaptive triggers for it this time, oh wait, only Sony and Nintendo are the only ones with any innovation for their controllers? Alright boys pack it up, Xbox fucked it all up for everybody again.
@@Fuzzycatfurthe only control that isn't pressure sensitive is the switch one. Xbox has had pressure sensitive triggers since the 360. Do they provide tension and resistance? No. I think it's a cool feature of the PS5 controller, but I also don't find the PS5 controller to be the most comfortable.
yeah he clearly never played forza on xbox lol, 100% has pressure sensitive triggers. The real difference is the pressure sensitive BUTTONS from the ps2/ps3 controllers not being present on modern controllers, so konami had to do some workarounds@@Geebees93
@@FuzzycatfurWhat do you mean by xbox doesn't pressure sensitive triggers. It's an analog input, if you press it by half it sends 0.5, if you press it all the way it sends 1 etc. It's not just a button with 0 and 1 inputs.
I know Twin Snakes gets alot of flak but I wish it was included in this collection.
It’s Nintendo’s property
@@mariogpx2990GCube Exclusive
It'd be better than the bare-bones MGS1 port in this collection.
Though yeah, MGS Twin Snakes cutscenes are stupid as hell and the voice actors aren't as good.
@@VEN0VA I never understood that argument There is literally not a single game in the MGS series that DOESN'T have stupid cutscenes though, and thats literally the best part ( Until MGSV replaced all the wacky stuff with boring melodrama )
Snake trying to outswim Ray at the end of MGS2, every member of dead cell,
Big Boss getting his junk grabbed while cosplaying as raiden, volgin using force lightning to puppet a giant seige tank, the cobra unit, ocelots gun juggling and literal meowing
MGS4, I dont even know where to begin there, theres not enough time in the day, go watch Steak Bentley if you need a refresher.
EDIT: MGSV did have some stupid stuff I guess, it was mostly just Quiet and Skullface being ridiculous.
@@sasaki999proAnd then there's Metal Gear Rising, the full realization of ridiculous, not to mention it's at the very end of the timeline.
Options for both integer scaling and a texture smoothing option on MGS1 to get rid of warping would be appreciated. Both are available in the Duckstation PS1 emulator, and make the game look a lot better, sharper and stable.
or just buy one of the 3 other versions of the game like a gamer
@@iWhisperASMR dumb comment why would anyone buy this crap when we have emulation that can increase internal resolution.
you can do some things with reshade to help blur things. it has all kinds of effects you can apply to any game. you can even play it in ASCII if you want your game to look like the matrix which is fun for about 5 seconds
@@jamesf111 because we've been begging for an official way to play these games on modern hardware, but seeing the state of all 3 games, it seems like a massive letdown unfortunately.
“I get 3 full long games and a ton of mini games and interactive comics and extra non canon games” then every other TH-camr copies and paste themselves with “this huge collection is underwhelming!!!!” You cannot win with this generation of complainers 😂
THEN RUN AN EMULATOR CAUSE THIS DEAL AINT FOR YOU. My goodness people are hopeless lmao.
IMPORTANT
-You can get each game for 20 bucks instead to buy all of them
-PC apparently has been confirmed to have mouse and keyboard from people who went in the Tokyo games show
-Master books and screen play books apparently are extremely expensive by their own
-Also they fixed bugs from the bluepoint hd collection
-MGS1 allow you to create saves from Konami games for psychomantis
And the most important fact :
- The original HD collection work flawlessly in RPCS3.
you're joking. that sounds hardly bad! hope this is all true.
Where can I buy these games? From what I've seen Konami took all of the games down from shops.
@@maku4814You can buy them tomorrow on consoles and PC if they were removed from stores it's because of the historical images licencing issues they tried to renew them but the companies owning them disappeared so they had to replace them with equivalent images
Just pirate them goofball
I can't wait to see how awful all the new silent hill games are gonna be
Oh god
I fucking love silent hill 2 but the remake will be fucking trash no cap
I hope to god f is good
It’s gonna be so bad i can’t wait
It’s hard being optimistic in a pessimistic world 🥀
Never played a MGS game in my life. Been waiting for a way to play the entire franchise on one console (and ideally a modern console, I really dont like digging up old units). Was really stoked to see the announcement of this collection and that there would seemingly be more collections to fill out the rest of the series. That said, even if this collection was perfect with all the features diehard fans wanted, I'd never drop full price on a collection of 20 year old games. I'll be picking this up when it hits $20 or if it goes to PS+ for free.
If you're willing to go PC it has mods to 'modernize' it
you can buy it with a vpn for much cheaper, but youll need to make a new account.
You missed everything good about life literally start over at that point
Liked and subbed for the thumbnail. Just... Brilliant. You brought me so much joy with that.
I've been watching footage of MGS from this collection, and I kept thinking "this look WAAAAAY too slow." Then it dawned on me that those fuckers are using the PAL version. Yours is the only review I've seen that mentions this. That's why you're the best.
PAL versions are those most patched up versions outside of Integral. Also not censored. Johnny's underwear or a blur filter. Pick your poison. I do believe you can still pick different region versions still though.
You can choose between PAL and NTSC version of the game, but also choose NTSC with Different Languages (Like Spanish)
What's the deal with the PAL version?
@@Lagunaturbiait's a port of the other port which for some odd reason people have their panties and a bunch about it. I don't know why it's dumb. It's stupid. It's easier to do it that way and then sitting here and having to go through it all over again
PAL versions of PSX games run at 25FPS versus 30FPS on NTSC. Sounds like a minor difference but you can feel it if you have gamed for decades.
Just as a correction, the games in PAL were not capped at 30, it was 25fps.
However, I never realized PAL came out in Australia too, so I've learnt something new haha
If you do play MGS1 in this collection. I'd pick the Integral version as it has more content.
@@WllKiedSnakethought it was on pc?
@floridaman98 So it was. It was very broken. It should fixed now. I think the version include though is the Japanese PS1 version and not the PC version. I'd be surprised if they fixed the PC Port though of Integral from the Japanese PS1 port if it is the PC version of Integral.
Pal released in NZ too if that's another fun fact. Some gamecube games I've got on ebay from France have been some cheap finds
ackshully
_The_ _Legacy_ _Collection_ was the ideal way to play these games (to include _4_ and _Peace_ _Walker_ ), though that's two generations removed now.
Licensing is definitely holding it back. _4_ had Apple and Sony licensing imbedded into the game itself. _The_ _Twin_ _Snakes_ was licensed to Nintendo and Silicon Knights; legal litigation still surrounds this one. The later will probably _never_ get a re-release.
Not really going to be hard to get rid of the Ipod, just change the texture on the in game item, change the UI to say MP3 player and change the icon for it so it doesn't resemble an ipod.
Could probably only take a week of work to get that done.
What will be the legal issue with apple is if they had some sort of X amount of years licensing agreement.
As for sony though, there is too much integrated in the game to easily rip out, let alone the actual PS3 architecture/cell processor defining how they could get it to run on modern systems. Not like sony would allow konami to have a integrated PS3 OS emulator that can be sold on nintendo and xbox consoles...PC too! They are not that stupid.
Not also do you have many references to PS3 like its disc drive and a PS3 in game but snake controls the mk2 with a PS3 controller, possibly the mk2 has an aibo sony reference to it as well as it looks similar and entire mechanics revolve around the six axis. Six axis might not be too much of an issue to get around on a technical level as gyro are innately inside switch, PS5 and Possibly xbox controllers???? but there are entire dialogues on how to do things in game that references the six axis.
They would have to cut these, or redub from the original VAs. I doubt konami has the will to do it, too costly.
Only logical way would be to remake it from ground up on a new engine but octocamo is probably too complicated to port to say UE5 by any random team. Only skilled devs like kojimas team could do something like that.
Then you will have loads of licensing for the songs and other things like food products that will need to legally be allowed or cut.
Lots of legal and tech work needed to get MGS4 off of the PS3.
The more fun is waiting to see how they mess it up, what they have to cut and what they attempt to do with it, I mean specifically that game.
This vol 1 collection is simply emulated with certain things cut for licensing.
Blud really saying this is mega man legacy collection ☠️
People forget that if you bought the MGS legacy collection the code for MGS1 is already expired since it only lasts for 10 years (2011-2021) also MGS1 doesn’t have trophies on PS3 but they do now on PS5! - also performance of 2 & 3 on PS3 dips pretty regularly down to like 30 fps at times during heavy scenes. On PS5 it’s pretty much lock 60. My only gripe with the master collection is that MGS1 is a bit blurry since it uses bilinear filter instead of integer and MGS 2 & 3 having worse texture than the PS3 version (most likely due to a bug) but those literally the ONLY negative of this collection, I dunno why people are blowing this out of proportion like it’s the worst release since GTA trilogy smh
@@AusOpening That MGS1 code expiration date is if you do not redeem it on the store. If you redeemed the game it will be on your PSN account forever. Unless you get banned.
@@AusOpening The changes present in this new release aren't being exaggerated in any way.
The control scheme was changed, and not necessarily for the better, influencing how you interact with the in-game environment. An improved framerate is secondary to the fact that there are now *graphical* *tradeoffs* to consider when comparing these games to the originals.
Hopefully this can all be patched, but, as is, it's a deterrent. I don't think many serious MGS fans are concerned about a 10 year old voucher or trophies.
I'm just happy that Konami remembers Metal Gear exists, and I hope they don't spoil this opportunity
The ones who are going to ruin it are the ones review bombing it for views on their youtube channels.
Usually the reason 50hz versions of old games still get released is because those are the versions that are localised for European regions, so for licensing and language support it's easier to use those versions than to use the American 60hz versions. Not sure if that's specifically whats happening in this case for this collection, but it's what often happens with other rereleased games in Europe such as Code Veronica
In other words Americans don't speak too many languages so why should they cater to them n use the fast pace NTSC version instead of the slowass PAL version just because it's Europe approved model
Search the voice box Metal Gear Solid he has fantastic content and he has hilariously puts into perspective the master collection and he explains how you can play the games in 60 FPS 4K
MGS released with only 1 language option localised to you’re country even here in europe. So thats likely not the reason.
More likely its that the original PAL releases contain additional content and a lot (a shocking amount) of bug fixes compared to the NTSC version.
@@jamie_1678 Was going to say something similar. Often the PAL releases get additional languages, but also are released later so have an updated version with fixes when the discs are made.
Fancy seeing you here.
As someone who hasn't played any of these games since their original release, This collection was always going to be a must buy. The only concern I really had was how it would be monetized and if it released in a technically compromised state.
Vol 2 will be the real test though, especially if they finally manage to get MGS4 on other hardware. There's also the spin off games that could very well be included like Rising and the ACID games....
If it doesn't include Twin Snakes.
Definitely hope for a port of the ACID games even if they are super easy to emulate since it would give more people the chance to try them.
Imagine being so stupid as to buying a crappy, half-assed collection, when BeetlePSX HW and PCSX 2 are doing a way, way, way better job in emulating and drastically enhancing the original versions in every way imaginable. Oh well, Konami thrives on suckers like that.
@@monkaWGiga The ACID games still top the list of my favourite franchise spin offs to date. I get why people were turned off by the idea of them, but they did incredible job working a turned based deck builder into the MGS formula. Extremely underrated titles.
As long as Volume 2 includes PO, MGS4, and PW, we'll be fine. It needs to have at least those three.
Not a bad video but too many gifs are artificially extending the runtime adds nothing.
True
“I get 3 full long games and a ton of mini games and interactive comics and extra non canon games” then every other TH-camr copies and paste themselves with “this huge collection is underwhelming!!!!” You cannot win with this generation of complainers 😂
My biggest concern and what I know isn't gonna happen is the special scenes from the PS2 version are locked into that version and we're most likely never gonna see them, the special The End death, the special dream sequence when you're in jail etc
They have cut out the Monkey Escape content, as was the same in the HD remaster.
I went out of my way and copped the PS2 collection of MGS2 and 3 since that collection had the subsistence versions, meaning 2 had the skating mode and 3 had the secret theatre. Really is disappointing when devs do the bare minimum for preserving their best IPs.
@@vault1021 ya I still have my PS2 copies of mgs2 and 3 and I'm contemplating getting MGS on the PS1 as I haven't really played it yet, even tho I'm still probably gonna pick up this collection at some point
@@vault1021what's the best version to buy for ps2. I remember these things and want the full game
They also didn't bring back the boss rush mode from MGS3 which makes no sense.
And the price is wild
$70??
You get master books and screen plays who are apparently expensive and you can buy each game separately for 20
70 dollars for a game I can emulate for free at a higher frame rate and resolution, no thanks.
Easy wait-for-a-sale kinda game.
Even worse their selling a vol 2 for most likely the same price
11:43 this isn’t really a big deal. I feel like if you want that original faithful experience it’s cool to include the disk swap animation considering it only needs to happen once
>Release it on PC
>No Controls
Ah Ninja Gaiden is that you
That 50Hz issue is concerning. As long as we can pick the US language and that changes to 60HZ, it's a fix at least.
As someone who's never played MGS before but is very interested in video game voice acting etc, what's the real difference between the US and the UK language in the game? Just spellings in the subtitles or actually different actors/lines?
Can someone comment when it's released if you can play it on 60hz?
He doesn't say it, but it's more than likely a day 1 patch. No idea why it isn't already there, it's probably booting up damn roms if anything.
@@kellalizardthere are no script differences. You would notice the slow down however. Maybe they might spell "colour" and "color", different, however American spellings wouldn't bother me.
Otocon is still going to say "Japanimation"😂
@@kellalizard theres no difference in the spoken dialogue, same script, same lines. only change is from 60hz to 50hz since at the time of release UK/Europe tv's ran at 50hz so games ran 14% slower
I honestly think its a shame we didn't see some of the newer additions from the 3ds version of Snake Eater get ported back into the HD version, would've really loved to have that crouch walk lol.
Would have loved to have this all playable in 3D via VR.
This is ridiculous not having 3DS features even now. PS2 version remains the best, unfortunately.
Ya that would of been great. Too bad this port is so half assed. You would think Konami would put more effort into one of their flagship franchises.
You can already do that via emulation. You need a pretty strong pc but you boot up citra in Bigscreen and change a setting in the emulator I don't remember the name of but it's pretty straight forward something to do with the 3d setting. Then you can play it in 3d in a big ass theater. I actually tested some games it was awesome.@@GangsterFrankensteinComputer
Man they really didn't add the crouch walk? That's a fucking bummer. Whelp, back to emulating it on RPCS3.
Thanks for mentioning Twin Snakes & Acid. I have a feeling that way too many people have forgotten about them. Also could be a lisence thing that makes it more complex to make it happens since one was on Gamecube and the other on PSP lol!😅
The reason I wanna play this collection, is because of playing Metal Gear. Both it’s MSX and NES versions. Also replaying all three MGS games too for old times sakes.
Bought the collection on the PS3 9 years ago and I still go back to it from time to time. I'm only missing the MGS4 platinum, but I've yet to find the courage to tackle that monster.
I only left 1 trophy and 1 emblem, the damn Big Boss trophy/emblem. It's branded in to my soul not having that platinum because of that. The Flying Spaghetti Monster knows that I tried, bled and cried, but no 😢
Same, I've played all of the MGS games back in the day. I still have the PS3 collection but its still sealed, lol. MGS4 is the only game I haven't tackled. Was hoping this collection would peak my interest in gaming again. Gaming is such a mess right now.
I’m torn between the ps3 version vs Switch.. I have it digitally on Vita but my system died before I had a chance to really play through
Unless you really LOVE MGS4, don't platinum it because it'll ruin MGS4. It usually takes about 7 to 8 playthroughs to get all the emblems and if you play it over and over again, it gets tiresome. However, going after the Big Boss emblem is a lot of fun.
@@film_misanthrope1449It's not the Big Boss run that's a problem, it's getting ALL emblems, all the dumb stuff like Chicken and Deer etc. You need major patience to die 300 times.
Pressure sensitive buttons aren't possible as the pressure sensitive face buttons aren't a thing on 1st party controllers anymore
Sadly.
Thanks mate, the first moments told me everything I needed. Great that you didn't drag it out.
Great review, will recommend.
I'm fairly certain the disc change was left in MGS1 on purpose. Pressure sensitivity was removed as the DualSense doesn't have pressure sensitive face buttons.
Which makes the PS5 inferior to PS2 and PS3.
i was wondering why on MGS2 lightly holding down the shoot button wasn't drawing your handgun without shooting. That sucks big time
Konami fucking up and disappointing fans!?! No fucking way.
They played us like a damn fiddle!
@@UC4AQUgrQ9EwVIGoF0w7xHXgthen smashed said fiddle like Pete Townshend
@@HyperactiveClown then released the broken fiddle for 60 dollars on steam.
*70
They’re arrogant cunts.
Really looking forward to this collection. I still have my PS1 VR missions and mgs black label copies but I love these hd upscaled ps1-2 era games. Really looking forward to replaying metal gear and and mgs2. Just got my PlayStation 5 today, finally.
The dual shock two has analog face buttons that allow for the pressure sensitive feature that you talked about. It will be very difficult to simulate analog buttons on a digital controller and have it work well
More than difficult, it's impossible to emulate analogue pressure sensitive buttons with digital ones. The console has no way of telling how hard you're pressing them.
Actually the rear trigger buttons are pressure sensitive, but annoyingly you can remap the face buttons to them on Xbox.
Hopefully we'll get a Metal Gear bonus collection with all the side games at some point as well. Would love to see Ghost Babel and A!cd make a return.
Acid 2 had the third best soundtrack
Search the voice box Metal Gear Solid he has fantastic content and he has hilariously puts into perspective the master collection and he explains how you can play the games in 60 FPS 4K
Man! Ac!d! The artwork from Ashley Wood was amazing as well!
It's truly beyond me how Portable Ops get's ignored like it wasn't one of the most important.
I'm waiting for MGS4 in collection vol. 2, but i'm afraid that they cant port it to PC decently...
This is an issue with major publishing companies...Konami, Capcom, Nintendo. All this raw talent out there: people who can emulate games at better qualities than the originals, people who can port them at better qualities with additional features, independent game artists/designers and modelers, animators, programmers...yet somehow they overlook all this talent, and get mad when said talent goes outside of official channels and does it anyway. It's unbelievable really...
Because big-dick emulator authors make corpos feel inadequate in the pants region. Money doesn't mean sheeit.
Meh, modders still only do a fraction of the work
@@emblemblade9245 Modern developers tend to only do a fraction of *their* job (and for full price), making modding completely necessary in some cases.
Blame IP laws. They give companies a monopoly on all this stuff.
Search the voice box Metal Gear Solid he has fantastic content and he has hilariously puts into perspective the master collection and he explains how you can play the games in 60 FPS 4K
konami hurry up and release the pc version of metal gear 4 , we want to play it this year and we are tired of waiting
Good video. Great explanations. I bought this on switch. I also have mgs 3d for my 2ds. I've only ever sampled 3 on the ps2 as a kid, so master collection will be my entry point at a later date.
For those curious: The PAL / NTSC difference came from the televisions back then. In Europe they used PAL TVs with 50 Hz and in Japan and the US, they had the NTSC TVs with 60 Hz. This is also the reason why in most Nintendo consoles (that use cartridges) there are different shapes of cartridges or even "obstructions" that made non-compatible cartridge impossible to fit into the Super Famicom / SNES or even the N64.
However: Nowadays the TVs dont care for this difference anymore. And monitors even less.
It would have not mattered to have used the 60 Hz version except for: Thats probably how Hideo Kojima intended it to be since it was his known and used set up.
So you're telling me the British don't run games at even intervals of 100, 150 and 200 hz?
@@AngraMainiiu You are aware that I was talking about the old gaming consoles, right? This old PAL/NTSC differentiation is nowhere an issue anymore afaik.
@@thatsagoodone8283 So you're trying to justify the version of MGS in the Master Collection playing 16% slower than was it intended to?
@@TurboNutterBastard Nope. Damn, your imagination runs wild.
@@thatsagoodone8283lmao did they even read your comment? Like wtf so bizarre
I am happy that they included the NES games to the collection. Because those were the Metal gear games what I played as a kid, and I still have my NES cartridges of Metal gear and Snake´s revenge.
Very nice. I love those games. Lots of people never knew they existed
MSX, the NES was a half-port
@@iWhisperASMR yeah you'd best play the msx games and stay away from the nes versions.
Infiltrate.....the enemy fortress.....outer heaven.
Destroy.....final weapon.... Metal Gear
They’re maybe collectors items now
Legit question: is the music theme that was removed from the later games still in this version? It's by a Russian composer and was shown to Kojima, which led to it being removed in later versions. Since this is a rerelease is that theme (speed, the rock) in this version? Much obliged x
The 60Hz NTSC version(s) of MGS1are indeed included in the collection, but they are a separate download only available on the launch day.
Shame they didn't give you Steam key for this, I'm very curious to see how the PC version(s) turn out.
Does it look the same?
@@Lord_of_Dread PAL runs at 25 fps. NTSC runs at 30 fps.
@@crust5909🤮🤮
Search the voice box Metal Gear Solid he has fantastic content and he has hilariously puts into perspective the master collection and he explains how you can play the games in 60 FPS 4K
Only available on Launch Day?? That's fucking stupid.
While this collection is kinda rough, the modern PC ports of 2 and 3 give me hope for a more robust modding scene, especially since you can buy all the games separately for $20 each. Still a bit high but much more reasonable. MGS1 though you're best off emulating it I feel.
Getting the GOG version of MGS2 to work on the Steam Deck was impossible as far as I can tell so I'm super hopeful that these Steam version will alleviate all that.
its literally impossible for there to be mods, the games dont have any modding tools and never will.
@@rentezfarcomarco5102 not true, just look at the how much Silent Hill 2 was modded for the Enhanced Edition.
@@rentezfarcomarco5102 There are already mods for the existing 20 year old MGS1 and MGS2 PC ports allowing them to run at any resolution and use modern controllers etc. No modding tools existed for those ports either, yet the mods exist. Modders will likely find a way to increase the internal resolution of the PC versions beyond 720p, and hopefully increase the output resolution beyond 1080p too.
I actually like having a real PC port of MGS1, with VR missions on separate .exe and all, it's on GOG and not running through a PS1 emulator.
New viewer here! Loved this video! Btw man, what is the music in the outro?
For me not being a veteran but just really REALLY wanting snake eater I didn’t know about the changes and details in the other games and I enjoyed this breakdown, I have the legacy collection on my ps3 but my controllers are completely shot ( bought the ps3 off a friend ) but I went through mgs3 at least and I couldn’t continue sons of liberty anymore on that controller so this is kinda like my redemption in a way 😂 love this video tho man keep up the good work!
Volume 2 needs to include Portable Ops
And especially MGS4
I mean, as a PC player, I'm just glad that these games are FINALLY coming to the platform in a unified way in the first place (GOG didn't do the best job either). It could always be better, I mean, it's still Konami, but man, the day I can look at my library and MG1-MGS5 will all be there will be a good one. Pretty sure MGS4 will take the most work, since them emulating it is out of the question, so yeah, let's see how they will handle that one.
4 is the only one I'm waiting for (because it's too taxing to emulate it) and I'm still not convinced that they will release it.
@@saschaberger3212 I was actually surprised to find out that Killzone 2 can be emulated now - apparently PS3 emulation has come a long way. Emulating MGS4 might not be that far off.
EDIT: Okay I get it, I've had FOUR OF YOU tell me it's possible to emulate MGS4 now. People need to learn to read the comments before adding their pointless 2 cents....
I got mgs4 to work perfectly on rcps3. Just took quite a bit of tweaking.
@@kyotra I was literally playing MGS4 on RPCS3 about two hours ago. It's playable at a decent framerate now, although finnicky to set up. Konami will definitely not ever make a proper port, though.
PS3 emulation is making strides already, there's no way emulating it is going to be "out of the question" when done in any first-party or officially affiliated capacity. I'd still like a full-on port more but we'll have to see.
Literally the second I didn't see any of the subtitles during the announcement I was already worried.
Ive never played these games growing up so this is my first go at them, your intro is actually how i feel about this game. So far it works for me. MGS1 is more "anime-inspired" than i thought it would be. I also bought it for the switch cuz i need more games for my switch and wanted to try this on the go.
MGS was always like this. Every single entry. It always starts off somewhat realistic, and at a certain point (usually 2-3 hours into the game) it starts to get weird, and by the end you have huge robots fighting each other. What sold me as a kid back then, is how they sell you everything that is happening as legit, and make it look legit.
17:46 they had to make one small change. They changed the Red Cross on health packs to green due to the Red Cross cracking down hard on it.
I really encourage people to actually watch the video instead of commenting too early. The biggest issue that this video highlighted is MGS 1 running in 50hz for european players, which you can at least fix by picking the US package when prompted before running the game. Everything else is really great. The video is arguing that its underwhelming because it didn't do much more than what it's supposed to (and that it was also made by bluepoint first and just a copy paste job of that). It's not a bad collection at all.
Pick a different region version. Fixed! Also include Integral and games that are so pricey individually that it's worth it.
You missed the image quality, it's much worse than PS1. It was supposed to look at least as good as PS1, but it didn't. That is really bad.
It's worse than any capcom collection and it's on par with mario 3d all stars. Also known as FUCKING EMULATE THE GAMES INSTEAD
@@WllKiedSnakeand don't play in your preferred language. Not fixed!
@@thatitalianlameguy2235Yeah, unless it's running natively just emulate it on pc with a superior emulator.
Sadly I'm going to wait until this goes on a sale. All I want to do is replay MGS1 & 4 again. I have 2 & 3 on Vita and absolutely love this series. I wish they put more effort into this. I would love to see MG Acid games playable again as well.
My parents bought me a used PS2 from a relative when I was about 13 or 14, with the console the guy included three games: NBA Street Vol. 2, DMC 2 and MGS2. Out of those I played MGS2 the most, I must've beaten it at least 4 or 5 times, I still remember the impression that mind-blowing crazy fuckery that is its ending sequence had on me.
Then I learned there was a MGS3 and I remember watching videos and seeing listings online for months and months until I saved enough money to buy it. My parents didn't trust online shopping at the time so my only hope was to go to my local gamestop and pray they had a used copy lying around, this must have been like 2010 or 2011 so the game was by no means new at the time. I still remember how I felt when I saw it, it was the original red/orange cover art, no manuals tho but still, I was pretty lucky to find it. I beat it only once because pretty soon after I had to sell my console but I kept my copy of MGS3, at the time my favorite game of all time. After moving I displaced it and to this day I don't know where it is.
I'm writing this minutes after beating it for the second time in the Master Collection. Sure. I can't believe how much of the game I still remembered. The first few hours were really really familiar, up until the point you learn about The Boss' defection I felt like I had played it a thousand times over. After that I remembered mostly cutscenes, the boss fights and a few gameplay segments/areas. It speaks to the impact this game had on me that after playing it only once as a pretty young teenager I was still able to recall a lot of key moments.
I love how all those games were ahead of its time, and even actually with all the soulless and repetitive boring games from actual times, playing these still makes me feel like im playing ahead of modern times, not everything are graphics, but the ridiculous amount of details behind.
Yeah it's insane that in many ways they're still far more advanced than modern games, the enemy AI and the amount of ways you can mess with it is just far far better than the vast majority of AAA games. Snake Eater of course being the best. Being able to destroy or poison food supplies to make guards weaker in the surrounding areas is incredible.
One of the only games out there where enemy AI gets bricked up when they happen to come across an adult magazine.
Search the voice box Metal Gear Solid he has fantastic content and he has hilariously puts into perspective the master collection and he explains how you can play the games in 60 FPS 4K
@@TheKirky Stop posting this comment.
@@Egurius3 jacksepticeye fan boy go cuddle your pillow
All the complaints I'm seeing are like "I'm angry that the collection that's not being advertised as remaster or remake is not a remaster nor remake, because I'm too stupid to understand it's just a collection and not a remaster/remake!"
Seriously wtf you people.
slight correction, the PAL version runs at 50hz yes, but is capped at half refresh rate, so it runs at 25FPS and the game speed isnt adjusted, therefore it runs about 17% slower
To be fair about the sensitive buttons I recently saw a video talking about them and... No console has them outside shoulder buttons anymore, it seems. And you can't even just use an usb adaptor to use an old ps2 controller for that since they don't seem to detect the difference...
Confirmed everything I've been slightly worried about for months. And the price is a joke. As a huge fan it's a shame to say it's been demoted to an "on sale" purchase. Thanks for the review.
Despite the issues, I'm still looking to get this collection on Switch. I find it will be worth it to be able to play these games portably (on a system other than the PS VITA), though maybe I'll wait for a sale.
Lol
@@omensoffate why lol?
Agreed
The legacy collection was 20 bucks on amazon like 2 years ago and it has everything but the final 2
What game's music is playing during the NordVPN ad? I know I've heard it before.
Wow, that Duckstation emulation is unbelievable! Never seen MGS 1 so clear. Looks beautiful.
Search the voice box Metal Gear Solid he has fantastic content and he has hilariously puts into perspective the master collection and he explains how you can play the games in 60 FPS 4K
I use it to play SH
After all bunch of testing best way to play OG MGS it is on HDMI PS2 or ye Duckstation (with proper setting display) if you don't have original hardware.
DuckStation is such an incredible emulator, cannot recommend it enough for PS1 emulation and enhancing PS1 games.
Duckstation is really good, I switched over from using epsxe recently and it's so much better
The blurriness seems to be from the use of a bilinear filtering/internal non-integer scaling.
I did the exact same thing in that exact same bathroom in mgs2 with the coolant, I was sat there spamming square on the C4.
Downloaded the collection today. Haven’t started playing it yet, but only ever played MGS on PS1 (one of my favorite games as a teen). Been wanting to play 2 & 3 for years but didn’t want to have to use my PS2. I replayed MGS when the PS Mini came out and still love it. Don’t care that it’s not a perfect collection, just happy to have the games on my PS4. Will be nice to play at night while the wife is sleeping with a wireless controller & headset plugged in. I’m not into most new games (hate micro transactions & most online stuff) so I’ve held off on a PS5 although I’ll be getting the slim when it releases. All my PS4 games are stored on an external drive so I can just plug that into the 5 and start playing. Gonna cook a steak tomorrow evening, open a nice microbrew beer and get down on the games.
How does MGS1 look on the big screen? People say it looks blurry due to it’s upscaling but I remember playing the original non scaled 240p version on PS3 and it was a complete pixelated mess on my TV
How was it? I remember when i first played MGS2 back then. Remember the game came out in 2001. The graphics in this game were INSANE back then. I couldnt believe my eyes, and the 1st person aiming in a 3rd person game was actually extremely insane aswell. The cutscenes with the motion tracking, everything felt like the future. THESE games were truly next gen games, unlike the laughing stock of launch titles on the PS4 back then, like Ghosts or BF4 which looked only slightly better than on PS3
honestly, it's cool to have these games preserved officially **at all**, even if the collection is subpar to say the least
What I want to know is, does it still have the different unlocks for beating them a certain number of times? Playing mgs1 as a kid and unlocking a playable gray fox was awesome
Yeah, it’s in there. Tuxedo for beating the game 3 times. Grey Fox. Meryl wearing the stealth suit, etc. It’s all in there.
Wtf I beat the game all the time as a kid and didn't know about the grey fox or Meryl ones.
@@TBone.404 alright then, I'm sold lol
Yo, G, why was the Alan Wake 2 video taken down?
I was planning to continue watching it after I come back home :(
Got hit with limited ads by TH-cam.
@@Gggmanlives Damn, sorry to hear that. I just saw your tweet now. Good luck editing, that's a bitch to get around. Will wait for it.
MGS 1 on PlayStation just blew my teenage mind. Holds a special place in my heart
I remember using that "impressive snake" line so many times over the years that I would say it without even realizing it. I probably should have stuck it on a tee shirt 😅.
So why do you even bring up your first point of there not being 4 and peace walker just to acknowledge that its called vol. 1 which obviously means there will be a vol. 2? Just seems like a waste of time to even say that at all.
I never thought I needed to see a Steve Carousel x Solid Cobra character merging before but, here it is in the thumbnail.
I think a lot of people don’t know, MGS1 Integral and MGS2 Subsistence exist on PC with keyboard/mouse support. They were both released natively on PC just a few years after each game’s respective release.
i never expected this to be anything more than a current gen port of the HD collection. so im not going to complain too much here. i'll assume it still has that awkward pause of lag when loading up a codec in MGS2 and 3. and its a shame they didnt put in the effort to bring back the Dracula nightmare. but, again, Vol 1 being "fine" is exactly what i expected.
Volume 2, however, is where they're going to pass or fail. if they actually put in the time and effort to create a miracle port of MGS4, then they will deserve my praise. but im not expecting that. if i had to guess, id say the three games in Vol 2 are going to be ACID, Peace Walker, and Portable Ops. which would be gross, but...unsurprising.
The Codec delay was fixed, actually.
Ghostrunner II and Alan Wake 2 are coming out later this week. Will you review either of them?
ghostrunner 2 gonna be great
Alan Wake 2 gonna be great
This week gonna be great
Great comment chain
These are fantastic games keeping old graphics keeps up the nostalgia ❤
I do all of my gaming on PC these days; I'm very familiar with emulation but had so many little issues running MGS2 (PS2 and PS3 versions) that I bought it on Steam just to try. Has definitely been the most painless way to play on a modern PC for me. Mods easily to high res too. Not a fan of modern Konami but they seem to have at least (mostly) preserved Bluepoint's quality work.
I really thought they weren't gonna add the VR Missions game in that bundle, that's pretty cool.
Burnout 3 Takedown had the same options for the hz, either 50 or 60 and there was a Night and Day difference between those two.
Played 1 and 2 on the master collection. Biggest thing for me was being able to play mgs1 as an Xbox player for the first time, but working through Star Wars dark forces and seeing what can be done with a game from 1995 in a modern remaster that isn’t going as far as re2 it’s really telling. Dark forces took the old sprites and graphics and added just a layer of polish to them, the game especially the cutscenes look phenomenal with the new touch ups. Wish mgs1 got the same treatment. However I’m just so happy to be able to play it for the first time. With delta coming and looking at what the re2 remake could do for a game from the same era I’m hoping we eventually get a full remake
Sons of Liberty is one of my favourite games of all time but I played and finished it that many times in my childhood and then again when it was rereleased on PS3 I don't really feel the need to go back again. What I was really hoping for from this 'MGS revival' was a remake of the original.
I feel blessed to have physical copies of MGS 1, 2 and 3. Nothing will beat original hardware imo
I own them too. Now I have a super PC, I run them emulated. Can't beat that Duel Shock 2 controller though, thankfully adapters are cheap.
I regretted selling my OG copies so much that I just went and rebought them all on Ebay. I love seeing them sit on my desk, makes me feel like a kid again.
@@GangsterFrankensteinComputer DS3 is basically the same and works with any Bluetooth dongle, saying this for people who don't have PS2 controllers or an adapter nearby.
Exactly especially if you have a CRT to play on, trying to emulate standard definition games on a modern display makes them look so much worse
@@fightaman7 Yep, still have my childhood Magnavox. Play all my OG Xbox and PS1/PS2 games on it. Simply can’t get any better
My compliments to the editor! The way in which the video clips function to punctuate the spoken word is excellent 👌
could be wrong but pretty sure he edits the videos himself
NERRRRRRRRRD
Search the voice box Metal Gear Solid he has fantastic content and he has hilariously puts into perspective the master collection and he explains how you can play the games in 60 FPS 4K
@@TheKirky I found it and I have to agree with the fact that im taking a big phat duece bruv, Stop yelling at me jeez
dead^ im cracking tf up, not only by the video but by your comment lmao@@TheFos88
For $60 USD, I expect better. Thankfully, TotalBiscuit's lesson of *never preorder* stuck with me all these years, and I'm going to wait on this for a heavy discount.
Thanks for the vid!
For 60 bucks, u damn right its underwhelming. Should have charged 30 bucks max.
I just saw an article from IGN that states that Konami would be addressing the issues with this collection post-launch.
Oh boy, do I wish I could say that I'm surprised it came out like this. Despite it being slapped together from other remasters, it is still nice to be able to play them on modern hardware. I am a huge metal gear solid fan, and I'll probably pick this up on sale for the Switch.
Search the voice box Metal Gear Solid he has fantastic content and he has hilariously puts into perspective the master collection and he explains how you can play the games in 60 FPS 4K
@@TheKirky I'll check it out. Thank you for the recommendation.
Every time you use the Assault Suits Valken/Cybernator music in your ads, it makes me wish you'd give it a review. The re-release on Switch kicks ass!
Always meant to pickup the collection on PS3, never really played these games (was too young in their heyday and didn't wanna jump in with 4 or 5). So as a first timer this may work for me, but I'm curious to hear the criticisms!
I do find it interesting that NTSC/PAL versions run at different speeds due to their framerate, because it still happens to this day! Instead of using deltatime (which devs should), some parts of games rely on framerate for things like movement.
Even Fallout 76 was like this at launch, which was why looking at the floor made you walk faster because your framerate would go up. This is also present in a lot of FromSoftware's work, which is why they're limited to 60fps - and it also might be a reason for why theres no rerelease of Bloodborne, because its designed to run at 30fps
as for the blurry look, they might be upscaling it from it's original resolution using a bicubic or bi-linear filter - while the PS1version obviously didn't. They might be using this upscale as a way to make up for them just emulating the original, and as such not being able to render at an actually higher resolution
It is not really they run at different speeds, its more of an optical thing, the screen is refreshing frames at a slower rate on 50hz, even if the game is playing at 30fps on both, its why high level PC monitors with high refresh rates look better for games than TVs, and visa versa for movies (films).
Visually it will look smoother but in reality the speeds the game is playing is the same.
This is only an issue for people who played the game at 60hz back in the day. They wont be used to the 50htz refresh rate.
Keep in mind even on a 8k TV this is a PS1 game playing at 50hz so it will look even more sluggish than it did on CRT TVs
Still if you complain about petty stuff like this for 20 year old games its stupid. If it was a 2023 game playing in 50hz I would understand but all it is doing is emulating the OG 50hz game.
i would assume it was more feasibly viably to rip the NTSC audio files over the PAL game than the other way around.
Also to add, NTSC IS the inferior version. That is the one that has censorship, in 1 or the other locations it is censored. the European PAL will be the better version out of all to emulate as no censorship.
Like MGS2 (and 3?) never got EE so the European version is always the better version. They got EE in the re-releases.
I still see Americans cry about the difficulty of MGS2 EE to this day while I was playing it as a teenager, no kills no death, no rations under 3 hours.
They even nerfed the torture sequences in the HD remake because of american tears of the difficulty on EE that was included with substance.
@@minerkey682have you got a chance to play MGS1 on PS5? How’s the image quality - I remember playing it on PS3 it was so pixelated it hurt my eyes - not sure if there was any scaling involved
Tying physics to framerate is peak laziness from developers.
@offspringfan89 its more not-knowing than laziness. It's a mistake many devs make early on - I certainly did
The texture warping and wobbling is part of the art style. It ends up making the low res faces look like they’re emoting more due to the way it dithers pixels as they bob their heads. I’m convinced kojima took those effects into consideration when planning camera and character placement. Those games arent meant to be seen the way some emulators “upres” them.
All they had to do was make a 4k 60fps port. The games art styles are timeless but the bare minimum was beyond the scope for Konami yet people defend them.
Don’t know if it was a review copy thing but you definitely can change aspect ratio, add scan lines even change the banners to the side if you’re not in full screen for MGS1. So I think that’s less of a problem for the actual product now.
Might also have updated the look overall because the image didn’t feel blurry at all for me.
With mods, maybe. You absolutely can't do it ingame.
@@Gggmanlives you heard about the Minecraft mod for mgs3
13:19 I was not prepared for this lmao. I think i never heard you shouting like that.. i thought you weren't able to hahaha always speaking with that calm voice