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- Did Th Catholic Church change The Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday? Or Was it Constantine? OR is it something else?
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I am a SDA, and I will gladly make a video to address these misconceptions about the Sabbath.
Waiting. Wow what a heap a confusion
@marksman..
Wheres the confusion?
Could not think of nothing better to say huh... lmbo maybe you are just confused huh..
@Diadochi.813 there is no reference to the Bible whatsoever. Just mere opinions!
If there is no Catholic there is no bible and if there is no Bible there is no protestant ......sda is one of them always attacking Catholic church. I should say commissioned by fallen angels in heaven the mutiners and proterters on Earth
Theres no where in the Bible where it is written that Since Jesus resurrected on Sunday then Sunday Becomes a Day of Worship No No. If anybody has any supporting verse mentioning Sunday as a Day of Worship you're free to give that to me.
Exodus 31:
16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed." Here we are told that the Sabbath is to be kept Forever unless someone has a different understanding of the word Perpetual.
On top of that Jesus and His Disciples all went to church on the Sabbath.
Let us watch and pray that the Holy Spirit gives us understanding.🙏
Breaking bread doesn't make Sunday the weekly Sabbath day of worship, in Acts 2:46 breaking bread was a daily practice.
Amen brother
You are right. Even Jesus broke bread on the last Thursday before His crucifixion. So you can break bread any day and anytime. But you can only keep 7th day Sabbath holy.
The Lord's Day and the Sabbath aren't the exact same thing. The Sabbath teaching was from the old covenant. Now us Christians follow the new one
There's a reason Exodus 20:8 states : REMEMBER the Sabbath day. The key word is REMEMBER as God doesn't contradict himself.
What about these statements from our church they all seem to say the church claims to have changed the sabbath day.
The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1957): 50:
"We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday."
Our Sunday Visitor (February 5, 1950):
"Practically everything Protestants regard as essential or important they have received from the Catholic Church... The Protestant mind does not seem to realize that in accepting the Bible and observing the Sunday, in keeping Christmas and Easter, they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the church, the Pope."
The Catholic Mirror (September 23, 1893):
"The Catholic Church, for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday..."
This one from the Catholic Record Sept 1, 1923 states that the Catholic Church is Above the Bible ( how do we explane that one??)
Now in the matter of Sabbath observance the Protestant rule of Faith is utterly unable to explain the substitution of the Christian Sunday for the Jewish Saturday. It has been changed. The Bible still teaches that the Sabbath or Saturday should be kept holy. There is no authority in the New Testament for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday. Surely it is an important matter. It stands there in the Bible as one of the Ten Commandments of God. There is no authority in the Bible for abrogating this Commandment, or for transferring its observance to another day of the week.
For Catholics it is not the slightest difficulty. "All power is given Me in heaven and on earth; as the Father sent Me so I also send you," said our Divine Lord in giving His tremendous commission to His Apostles. "He that heareth you heareth Me." We have in the authoritative voice of the Church the voice of Christ Himself. The Church is above the Bible; and this transference of Sabbath observance from Saturday to Sunday is proof positive of that fact. Deny the authority of the Church and you have no adequate or reasonable explanation or justification for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday in the Third - Protestant Fourth - Commandment of God. As the Rev. Mr. Smith rightly points out: "The Jewish Sabbath is not Sunday, the Lord's Day. Christians are all wrong in speaking of the Sabbath as Sunday." The Christians who so speak are "Bible Christians," those who make the Bible the sole rule of Faith; and the Bible is silent on Sunday observance, it speaks only of Sabbath observance. The Lord's Day - Dies Dominica - is the term used always in the Missal and the Breviary. It occurs in the Bible once (Apoc. 1.10;) in Acts xx. 7 and 1 Cor. xvi., 2 there is a reference to "the first day of the week;" but in none of these is there the remotest intimation that henceforth the first day is to take the place of the seventh. That is the crux of the whole question, what authority does the Bible give for the change? And that difficulty Mr. Smith and his critics, though pious and effusive and vaguely eloquent about many things, have each and all sedulously evaded.
I have the actual documents containing these quotes. I can't attach them here.
Good call out! The church no matter which denomination, SHOULD NOT change a law given by God Himself. Especially, when Shabbat was observed before God's law was dictated to and written by Moses.
Let's see how they extricate themselves from their own unbiblical lies
@@johnf4531 Amen.
@@zerksepraga Bible says this power will be destroyed, doesn’t matter what they do the truth is there for all to see, sadly the majority will believe the lie and suffer the eternal wages of sin eternal death.
Actually "The Lords day is the Sabbath day" at least according to the Bible.
Revelation 1:10
“I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,”
Isaiah 58:13 ESV / 43 helpful votes
“If you turn back your foot from the Sabbath, from doing your pleasure on my holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight and the holy day of the Lord honorable; if you honor it, not going your own ways, or seeking your own pleasure, or talking idly;
There is no scripture that states the 7th day sabbath was done away with, there I no scripture that says "Sunday is the sabbath". there is no scripture saying anyone ever kept Sunday as the sabbath. It is clearly a catholic creation and there are many quotes of the universal church claiming IT has changed the sabbath. They walk it back either out of ignorance of its churches claims or becuase it really doesn't feel right to have claimed to have changed the law of God. Who seeks to change times and laws of God, the Antichrist and all of the Reformers said the Papacy is AntiChrist.
The question is quite simple guys- do we have ANY commandment from Jesus to celebrate 1st day of the week Sunday?? Or that He changed anyhow Sabbath from 7th day to the 1st one??
We don’t have direct commandments from Jesus to do a lot of things - like have a Bible, for example.
However, we DO have writing from Paul stating the former ceremonial day of the Sabbath is a “mere shadow,” using the same Greek word that is used for the kosher laws on eating meat. So the Sabbath remains, but we celebrate, as the early Christians did, on the Lord’s Day, the day Christ rose.
@@bigfootapologetics First of all yes we do have direct commandments from Jesus about Law of God: Mat 5:17-19: "Do not think that I have come to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to destroy but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, Till the heaven and the earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle shall in any way pass from the law until all is fulfilled. Therefore whoever shall break one of these commandments, the least, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of Heaven. But whoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of Heaven."
Mat 7:21-23: "Not everyone who says to Me, Lord! Lord! shall enter the kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in Heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, Lord! Lord! Did we not prophesy in Your name, and through Your name throw out demons, and through Your name do many wonderful works? And then I will say to them I never knew you! Depart from Me, those working lawlessness!"
Which day Jesus celebrated Himself? Luk 4:16: "And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read."
About Paul- this is a very common mistake in many churches currently because weekly Sabbath has nothing to do with ceremonial holidays like Easter, etc. Sabbath as 7th day was established by God Himself in the very beginning, just after God created the earth 🌎 to remember Him as God Creator. Sabbath just simply can't be changed or somehow transferred to any other day like Sunday etc. Yes Jesus was resurrected on Sunday but He never mentioned that we need to celebrate it somehow or that He moved Sabbath to Sunday. It's never written in the NT that any early christians celebrated Sunday but actually vice versa they continued celebrating Sabbath: Acts 16:13: "And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was usually made. And we sat down and spoke to the women who came together [there]."
No, we have the fourth commandment alone, to keep his sabbath day holy. He blessed this day to be with us. It is a gift to keep the seventh day sabbath. Also - to celebrate the levitical feast days from chapter 23. They are gifts to us! The sabbath day has not changed ❤ there’s a lot to learn about the history of why some worship on Sunday it’s worth learning. And these guys are kind although I respectfully disagree because times and dates and seasons are special and important to God - he wants us to know the truth.
@@cw9039 Of course no, we don't have the 4th Commandment alone, where did you find it alone? Pls read Ex 20 the Law of God, it's 10 Commandments and the 4th Commandment is part of it. And Jesus clearly said that He didn't come to destroy the Law. And those who practice lawlessness will go into hell. It's like to say that we can kill, steal, commit adultery, etc. Actually that's why currently we have a lot of issues in many christian churches like same sex, LGBTQprst+-/#@ 🤦😄 So it's not a gift , it's strong Commandment from God's Law. And we need to obey to it. Otherwise you are not man of God. Bible very clearly point it many times: Rev 14:12: "Here is the patience of the saints. Here [are] the ones who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus."
Rev 12:17: "And the dragon was enraged over the woman, and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."
No we do not, and no He did not.
If Sunday was such an important day to worship or work upon, why didn't Jesus or any of His apostles tell us to do so? Jesus said He is Lord of the Sabbath. That means the Lord's Day is still the seventh-day Sabbath! No mention of Sunday anywhere in the Scriptures.
I posted about Saturday being the Sabbath and everyone was asking for the proof and through this am able to answer their questions... Thanks alot God bless you with more knowledge and and wisdom brethren 🙌🫡
The contribution to the needy of Jerusalem is not worship because shabbat is the day of rest and the contribution must be done after the shabbat which is 1st day of the week(Sunday)
Timestamp 3:18 Doctrinal Catechism by Rev. Stephen Keenan (with Imprimatur) says:
Q. Does not St. Paul order the Galatians and Corinthians to make collections on the first day of the week?
A. Yes; but, again, this does not abolish the observance of Saturday. St. Paul does not say that the people would be at church on that day,-that they were to keep that day, to the exclusion of Saturday, holy,-or that these collections were to be made at church, but merely that every man should lay up by himself in store upon that day.
I have answered some of your misconceptions about the Sabbath.
"Debunking the Lies: Exposing the Dishonesty in Catholic Discussions on the Sabbath. #catholic
th-cam.com/video/-c3RJkDATVw/w-d-xo.html
Constantine ruler in Rome changed the day from an appointed time from Saturday to Sunday. Because he worship the sun god helios the sungod
Thank you for clarifying this. I was always confused about this.
They threw you in the deep end. The sabbath was instituted in Genesis, in the beginning of creation, for all humanity. In the commandments, the Jews are merely being "reminded" to keep it holy. The rcc seeks to change the times and the law, as it was prophesied.
During my growing up, everything was closed on a Sunday.
@WeaponOfChoice yes definitely, that is when God was in control!
@@carolynmscotti827 God is still in charge. Or HE isn't GOD
@@robertcarter6887 Totally agree. Our Free Will and choices we make messes up things. What i meant is, during my growing up years people believed in God and tried to live, as if we did. Today most people are much too intelligent, so they think, to believe in such nonsense. I personally believe, love and trust God and His Mercy with all my heart
They always and the first believers always celebrated the seventh day it was Constantine then changed it from the 7th Day to the first day it is in your own teaching so please stop lying
I definitely learned alot more watching these episodes. Thanks for sharing ❤
The problem here is that we do have, in history, catholic leaders claiming the rcc's authority to change the sabbath to Sunday. We have them on record claiming that they changed it. Just get on the internet. Acts does not prove the change nor the eucharist. They are reading catholicism into scripture.
Sorry to say, you are learning nothing from them, exept everything what is not true! I write to you as well:
Why discuss so much when the Bible is ever soooo clear! No one, really nobody who really wants to know the truth will find it.... and believe it, no matter what others say.
Watch this!
Who Changed the Sabbath, and WHY? (The REAL Story)
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And this is also proof, that NOT God changed His own day of worship which He instituted, but undoubtedly it was man! !!!
Catholic claims of changing Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday! Actor reads Catholic sources.
th-cam.com/video/cpOK_UH0TT4/w-d-xo.html
Glad you guys mentioned the history of the weekend. As a few years back at my old workplace in Sydney I was speaking to a coworker from China and she was saying how it's good that there's the weekend in the west, as growing up in china there wasn't a weekend, school was also for seven days a week. I gave a brief explanation that it's due to the Christian belief of honouring the Sabbath as well as the resurrection for why we have a weekend.
quote----. I gave a brief explanation that it's due to the Christian belief of honouring the Sabbath as well as the resurrection for why we have a weekend.-unquote
Nope!!! What day is the seventh day--Saturday
What day is the first day of the week?? Sunday!! A WORK DAY!!!
The Catholic Church admits they made the change of the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday in the catechism! (Daniel 7;25)
100% correct, and in many more writings of theirs.
Ok but almost all protestant and Evangelical denomination worship on sunday to .
@@kamiingtv quote----Ok but almost all protestant and Evangelical denomination worship on sunday to --unquote
Is that your excuse?? Just because everone else is doing it????
Where are the leaders???
@@kamiingtv You are right and it shouldn't be so. Here are a few boastful catholic claims:
In An Abridgment of the Christian Doctrine,
Q. How prove you that the church hath power to command feasts and holy days?
A. By the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of; and therefore they fondly contradict themselves, by keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most other feasts commanded by the same church.
Q. How prove you that?
A. Because by keeping Sunday, they acknowledge the church's power to ordain feasts, and to command them under sin; and by not keeping the rest [of the feasts] by her commanded, they again deny, in fact, the same power.
- Rev. Henry Tuberville, D.D. (R.C.), (1833), page 58.
In A Doctrinal Catechism,
Q. Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?
A. Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her. She could not have substituted the observance of Sunday the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.
- Rev. Stephen Keenan, (1851), p. 174.
We can't rely on leaders. We need to delve into the word of God for ourselves to see the truth. Even if we listen to a leader, it's important to see the proof in the Bible for ourselves. Blessings.
@@mitchellosmer1293
If a catholic wants to worship on the Sabbath day, go to a Catholic Church on Saturday evening which is also a celebration for the Liturgical Sunday worship.
Saturday evening is biblically the 1st day of the week.....And it was evening and it was morning....the 1st day. evening and morning...2nd day. From evening to evening were how God set up the Days. Not Midnight to midnight.
Hahah a Catholic podcast in portuguese that I listened discussed this exact same theme this Thursday. Is there something in the liturgical calendar I'm not aware of?
every 3 years cycle they read all the bible
@annaadam4201 We don't read ALL the Bible through the liturgical calendar, but we will read most of it. Also, faithful catholics have the habit of reading the Bible by ourselves, not practicing catholics won't read it, which unfortunately represents a big portion of people who identify as catholics.
@@annaadam4201 the mass is totally biblical too. You may read your Bible but you still know diddly squat about Catholicism
@@lois2997 what??? no hate please 😁
@@lois2997 Catholics claim Sunday is a holy day made by God.I will ask these questions again which NO ONE can answer.
And I know you will NOT!!!
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE RESTED on the First day of Creation?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE BLESSED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE SANCTIFIED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE NAMED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE DECLARES the First day of the week as HIS HOLY DAY?--(to make the day special).
This is good we could reason out together. Question is, what is the Ten Commandments? Could you please read from your Bible on your program?
Here you go: 10 Things You Didn't Know About The 10 Commandments | The Catholic Talk Show
th-cam.com/video/sIF5pqcL2Q0/w-d-xo.html
That’s the problem, Catholics don’t really read the Bible. Because if they actually did, they wouldn’t be so clearly confused about the seventh day.
@@CatholicTalkShow Timestamp 3:18 Doctrinal Catechism by Rev. Stephen Keenan (with Imprimatur) says:
Q. Does not St. Paul order the Galatians and Corinthians to make collections on the first day of the week?
A. Yes; but, again, this does not abolish the observance of Saturday. St. Paul does not say that the people would be at church on that day,-that they were to keep that day, to the exclusion of Saturday, holy,-or that these collections were to be made at church, but merely that every man should lay up by himself in store upon that day.
quote--- Question is, what is the Ten Commandments? Could you please read from your Bible on your program- unquote
Which version of the Ten Commandments?? The catholic version or the Christian version as written by God??????
@@YajunYuanSDA quote---Timestamp 3:18 Doctrinal Catechism by Rev. Stephen Keenan (with Imprimatur) says:
Q. Does not St. Paul order the Galatians and Corinthians to make collections on the first day of the week?
A. Yes; but, again, this does not abolish the observance of Saturday. St. Paul does not say that the people would be at church on that day,-that they were to keep that day, to the exclusion of Saturday, holy,-or that these collections were to be made at church, but merely that every man should lay up by himself in store upon that day.-- unquote
The Problem with their idealogy is that they DO NOT ask the simple question, What was the collection for???
They fail to read verse 3. -----1 Cor 16:3 And when I arrive, I will send those whom you accredit by letter to carry your gift to Jerusalem.
THERE was a FAMINE there!!!! Paul was collecting food/money to give to the poor!!!!--Paul had no time to wait around to explain to everyone. THe poor/ hungry people were in need!!!
Such a great explanation! Thank you 🌞
I converted from 7th Day Adventism to Catholicism and I've never been happier :)
What the Holy Bible says about the Roman Catholic Church and the Pope
The Anti-christ sits in the temple of God proclaiming to be God….fulfilling 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4.
---“..the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, (not a physical temple, but Christ’s Church. Eph. 2:19-22) showing himself that he is God.”
---Pope Innocent III said “We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God.” (Source: “Decretals of Greogory IX,” Book 1, chapter 3.)
---Saint Pope Pius V blasphemed, “The Pope and God are the same, so he
has all power in Heaven and earth.” (Source: Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Cities Petrus Bertanous Chapter XXVII: 218.)
1 Timothy 2:5-6 declares, “For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all.”
------Isaiah 54:5 For your Maker is your husband, the Lord of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called.
----Gen 14:19 And he blessed him and said,
“Blessed be Abram by God Most High,
Possessor of heaven and earth;
20 and blessed be God Most High,
who has delivered your enemies into your hand!”
POSSESSOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH!!!! Not a mere man (Pope).
These verses refutes the claim that the Pope is "God on earth".
****Catholics claim Sunday is a holy day made by God.I will ask these questions again which NO ONE can answer.
And I know you will NOT!!!
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE RESTED on the First day of Creation?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE BLESSED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE SANCTIFIED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE NAMED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE DECLARES the First day of the week as HIS HOLY DAY?--(to make the day special).
Liar.
Wow God bless you! That would be the worst thing you ever did then
Cristo Rey! 🙏✝️📿
So you like statues, mariology, purgatory, relics, trinkets etc
So if that’s true why was this only put in affect 1860 years AD??
If Jesus rose on the third day after dying Friday and he had to be in the grave 3 days and 3 nights, he could not have rose on Sunday. Math does not work that way
You are thinking wrong
Christ did not die on Friday Christ was crucified on Passover, prior to a high day Sabbath...which is the first day of unleavened bread. So when the writer is referring to the Sabbath drew near, they were speaking of the high day Sabbath, and not the weekly Sabbath. Read Leviticus, it will give you a description of God's high day Sabbaths that He commanded Israel to keep. So leading up to Christ death on Passover, the High day Sabbath in that year would have been on a Thursday. Hence fulfilling His sign of 3 days and 3 nights, and Christ rose on the actual weekly Sabbath,(Saturday) around 3 pm, while the folks were still in their homes untill sunset. They were all sleeping, and they woke up prior to sunrise on Sunday, ran out to check the tomb, He was not there, because He had risen during the weekly Sabbath around 3 pm as He said. So good Friday is totally a pagan ritual, and has nothing to do with the timeline that Christ quoted. And He did not rise on Sunday, and that in no way gave any authority to change God's Sabbath to Sunday... that's ridiculous.
Sunday was a pegan day so they added on to their beliefs , they took catholic religion as a front to influencing true Christians , including Christmas which was Roman Pagan Holiday Saturnalia
You are so wrong about everything the Messiah died on a Wednesday was raised right before Shabbat is over which starts on Friday up to Saturday to 6:00 p.m. those are the regular real days show me in the scripture from the scripture that the father changed or the Messiah changed today so he changed the Ten Commandments you don't know anything he said three days and three nights I will be in the ground so to speak if you die on a Friday and raise on a Sunday that is not 3 days and three nights even a school kid could tell you that's not the right map that's not 72 hours
Somebody should tell him that the Catholic Bishops claim from way back in the 1800s that it was the Catholics authority to do so
What is the priests name who is on this episode?
I wonder if there's any connection between the fact that the Sabbath was a day of rest and the fact that Christ was "laid to rest" in the grave on the Sabbath.
quote---I wonder if there's any connection between the fact that the Sabbath was a day of rest and the fact that Christ was "laid to rest" in the grave on the Sabbath.--unquote
LOL--He was put in the tomb BEFORE Friday sundown!!
Was Jesus crucified at sunset?
Finally brought outside for judgment, Jesus was led away to be crucified. "It was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour" (noontime) (19:14, 16). In John, Jesus died on the Day of Preparation (Nisan 14), the day before the Passover meal, sometime after noon but before sunset that evening.
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The new convenant did away with ceremonial laws which were aligned with the sacrificial system, God's moral law the ten commandments still exists it has no connection with the cross.
Breaking bread and collection of offerings in 1 Cor 16 and Acts 20, is NOT a change of the Sabbath, the seventh day to the first day of the week. That's like me saying that having Bible studies on Wednesday as a Seventh-day Adventist makes Wednesday the Sabbath. Provide a book, chapter, and a verse where Jesus changed the Sabbath from the seventh day to the first day of the week prior to His death per Hebrews 9:16-17.
Even Jesus broke bread on the last Thursday before His crucifixion. So you can break bread any day and anytime. But you can only keep 7th day Sabbath holy.
If you are going to have a panel talking about the SDA, you should have an SDA present on the board as well to defend what we believe. That is ONLY FAIR. Other wise....all your listeners only hear your side. Not to mention, you can search from Genesis to Revelation and you will not find anything that states that God made the 1st Day holy. He ONLY sanctified and made holy the 7th Day as a memorial to his creation. You also brought up the subject of his death. You are right, Jesus dies on Friday and arose on Sunday....which means that EVEN IN HIS DEATH...Jesus rested on the Sabbath. A lot of Protestants today cite that the law was "Nailed to the Cross". This is a Half-Truth. What was actually nailed to the cross was handwritten ordinances that were against us...which were placed in "the side" of the ark...not INSIDE the ark. Gods moral law, the "Ten Commandments" will forever be...even in Heaven. If there wasn't a law in heaven before our world was even created...how would Satan have sinned? And sin is the transgression of the law...which law?....the Ten Commandments. { Revelation 11:19 }
Matthew 22: 37-40
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
(1) Love the Lord....First 4 commandments
(2) Love your Neighbor...Last 6 commandments.
Also want to state that the Sabbath Law is the 4th Commandment...not the 3rd. This was changed by Rome as well.
Read about the topics of the Counsel of Laodicea if you want to know when the law was instituted to not Judaize on Saturday...by the Catholic Church in the 4th Century.
And if you want to worship on the "Sabbath," technically you can by going to the Saturday vigil. I prefer going to church in the evening, so I almost always go on Saturday. I only go on Sunday morning if I can't make the vigil
but the vigil is liturgically sunday
quote--And if you want to worship on the "Sabbath," technically you can by going to the Saturday vigil.-unquote
day ends/begins at sundown!! Saturday after sundown IS Sunday!!
Catholics claim Sunday is a holy day made by God.I will ask these questions again which NO ONE can answer.
And I know you will NOT!!!
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE RESTED on the First day of Creation?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE BLESSED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE SANCTIFIED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE NAMED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE DECLARES the First day of the week as HIS HOLY DAY?--(to make the day special).
@@mitchellosmer1293 Saturday Mass is before sundown, usually around 4 or 5 pm. So, still Saturday
@@williamavitt8264 quote---Saturday Mass is before sundown, usually around 4 or 5 pm. So, still Saturday--unquote
That depends on what country you are in--and what the priests decide.
btw--when did Jesus go to Mass?
@@mitchellosmer1293 who cares? The Apostles went on Sunday. Scripture attests to this. We follow their example
Your human reasons can't cover or hide the truth about the Sabbath from cover to cover of the Bible states that Holy Day is Saturday the 7th day of the week and that is everlasting. Isa 26:33 Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 GOD bless the TRUTH Seekers!🙏💓😇
Wow, what a complete deception. the only thing new in the New Covenant is that we keep God's laws in our hearts as it is written..
Read for yourselves, people !
Catholic church has made the mark in their books ,that they had the authority to change the sabbath to Sunday,Furthermore they have been publicly ask ,and they did not denie but also said they would not change it back,their history book stated they made the mark
Since I converted to catholicism I feel my spiritual life have been a constant “the more you know” commercial 🌈⭐️
What the Holy Bible says about the Roman Catholic Church and the Pope
The Anti-christ sits in the temple of God proclaiming to be God….fulfilling 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4.
---“..the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, (not a physical temple, but Christ’s Church. Eph. 2:19-22) showing himself that he is God.”
---Pope Innocent III said “We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God.” (Source: “Decretals of Greogory IX,” Book 1, chapter 3.)
---Saint Pope Pius V blasphemed, “The Pope and God are the same, so he
has all power in Heaven and earth.” (Source: Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Cities Petrus Bertanous Chapter XXVII: 218.)
1 Timothy 2:5-6 declares, “For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all.”
------Isaiah 54:5 For your Maker is your husband, the Lord of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called.
----Gen 14:19 And he blessed him and said,
“Blessed be Abram by God Most High,
Possessor of heaven and earth;
20 and blessed be God Most High,
who has delivered your enemies into your hand!”
POSSESSOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH!!!! Not a mere man (Pope).
These verses refutes the claim that the Pope is "God on earth".
****Catholics claim Sunday is a holy day made by God.I will ask these questions again which NO ONE can answer.
And I know you will NOT!!!
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE RESTED on the First day of Creation?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE BLESSED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE SANCTIFIED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE NAMED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE DECLARES the First day of the week as HIS HOLY DAY?--(to make the day special).
@user-zt1hk2ds6q quote---Matthew 12:8 (KJV)
For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Mark 2:28 (KJV)
Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Luke 6:5 (KJV)
And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Luke 13:15 (KJV)
The Lord then answered him, and said, [Thou] hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or [his] ass from the stall, and lead [him] away to watering?--unquote
OK---What's your point??
@@mitchellosmer1293the Pope never claim to be God but the visible representant of Christ on earth
@@mitchellosmer1293stop repeating like a Perot evry conspiracy you lisen to research on church history and not from anti Catholic
@@mitchellosmer1293The Pope as the power to bind or unbind as the successor of Peter Jesus gave im the Keys of is Kingdom
What about all these quotes from the catholic church?
Catholic Record (September 1, 1923):
“Now in the matter of Sabbath observance the Protestant rule of Faith is utterly unable to explain the substitution of the Christian Sunday for the Jewish Saturday. It has been changed. The Bible still teaches that the Sabbath or Saturday should be kept holy. There is no authority in the New Testament for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday. Surely it is an important matter. It stands there in the Bible as one of the Ten Commandments of God. There is no authority in the Bible for abrogating this Commandment, or for transferring its observance to another day of the week.”
“For Catholics it is not the slightest difficulty.”...“The Church is above the Bible; and this transference of Sabbath observance from Saturday to Sunday is proof positive of that fact. Deny the authority of the Church and you have no adequate or reasonable explanation or justification for the substitution of Sunday for Saturday in the Third - Protestant Fourth - Commandment of God.”
Chancellor Albert Smith for Cardinal of Baltimore Archdiocese, letter dated February 10, 1920:
"If Protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath day [which] by God is Saturday. In keeping the Sunday, they are following a law of the Catholic Church."
The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1957): 50:
"We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday."
Our Sunday Visitor (February 5, 1950):
"Practically everything Protestants regard as essential or important they have received from the Catholic Church... The Protestant mind does not seem to realize that in accepting the Bible and observing the Sunday, in keeping Christmas and Easter, they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the church, the Pope."
Louis Gaston Segur, Plain Talk about the Protestantism of To-Day (London: Thomas Richardson and Son, 1874): 213:
"Thus the observance of Sunday by the Protestants is a homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the (Catholic) Church.
The Catholic Mirror (September 23, 1893):
"The Catholic Church, for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday..."
Catholic Priest T. Enright, CSSR, Kansas City, MO:
"It was the holy Catholic Church that changed the day of rest from Saturday to Sunday, the 1st day of the week. And it not only compelled all to keep Sunday, but at the Council of Laodicea, AD 364, anathematized those who kept the Sabbath and urged all persons to labor on the 7th day under penalty of anathema."
Catholic Priest T. Enright, CSSR, lecture at Hartford, KS, Feb 18, 1884:
"I have repeatedly offered $1000 to any one who can furnish any proof from the Bible that Sunday is the day we are bound to keep...The Bible says, “Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy,” but the Catholic Church says, “No, keep the first day of the week,” and the whole world bows in obedience."
Letter from C.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons on October 28, 1895:
"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act...And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters."
American Catholic Quarterly Review (January 1883):
"Sunday...is purely a creation of the Catholic Church."
Catholic American Sentinel (June 1893):
"Sunday...It is a law of the Catholic Church alone..."
“The Question Box,” The Catholic Universe Bulletin (August 14, 1942): 4:
"The (Catholic) Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, infallible authority given to her by her Founder, Jesus Christ. The Protestant claiming the Bible to be the only guide of faith, has no warrant for observing Sunday."
They don't got nothing to say... unless they wanna lie and try to decieve more
@@Diadochi.813 Well they admit they are the source of Sunday keeping yet modern day Protestantism still keep the Papacys Sun-day the venerable day of the sun kept by Pagans for millennia. I often wonder why Protestants don't follow the Bible and listen to the Catholic church the very church "Protestantism" broke away from🤣 Silly Protestants...
I thought the rule was a body could not be on a tree at night or on a holiday. Which was coming up.
Isn't that why they broke the legs of the other guys who were hung beside Him?
It was because the Jew day start a sundown. Sabbath was a day no one could do anything. We celebrate Sunday because that’s the day Jesus rose from the death.
@@meandmysis2779 sundown is the start of the next day so Sabath started at Friday’s sundown. That’s why we say He rose on the third day. Friday is one day, Saturday 2 and Sunday starts at sundown on Saturday is 3
Jerusalem was about to celebrate Passover and they couldn't leave anyone on the cross after sundown because the cross was a tree.
And leaving a body on a tree overnight was cursing God.
The Sabbath begins when the sun goes down on Friday and the Sabbath is over when the sun goes down on Saturday. what we now call Sunday Jesus was crucified on the high Sabbath Passover. It was the fourth day of the week. What we now call Wednesday and when he rose the first day, what we now call Sunday he slept in the heart of the earth for 3 days. Being crucified on Friday and raising on Sunday morning is not 3 days
Miss understanding? 🤣
Well here’s a quote straight from the horse mouth….
"Sunday is our mark of authority...
The church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact." Catholic Record, Sept 1, 1923
They will put their heads in the sand!
Misconception: The Christian Sabbath is on Sunday.
FACT: The Bible contains no command for Christians to devote Sunday, the first day of the week, to rest and worship. For early Christians, Sunday was a workday like any other. The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia states: “It was not until the 4th century that Sunday began to take on sabbath characteristics, when [the pagan Roman emperor] Constantine decreed that certain types of work should not be done on Sunday.”
The Bible says the apostle Paul shared a meal with fellow believers “on the first day of the week,” Sunday, but this was only logical since Paul was leaving the next day. (Acts 20:7) Similarly, some congregations were told to set aside funds on “the first day of every week,” Sunday, for relief work, but this was just a practical suggestion for personal budgeting. The contributions were kept at home, not turned in at a place of meeting. (1 Corinthians 16:1,2)
Just because the Bible has some versus that say "The first day" doesn't mean that should be treated as the Sabbath. Even Jesus himself didn't rise on the Sabbath. He could have, but he didn't out of respect for the Lord's commandment. It's the day to rest AND worship. If translating the breaking of bread on the first day, which they did daily, to mean your Sabbath because it makes you feel better about doing you (and the world) instead of doing the Lord's command, then do you but don't try to gaslight the literal meaning of the Bible unto others. We all know how to read.
They went out after the Shabbat was over
I'm not practicing Catholic. There's a scripture verse about the Lord's Day.. Hebrews 10:25 .. A Baptist pastor told me it wasn't unflighty that Jesus died. It was on Thursday.. And that would put it on Sunday.. He also told me if it's on Friday the resurrection would have been on Monday. I do not agree with that pastor I go By What the Pope says?
quote---I go By What the Pope says?--unquote
So, what God says is NOT true????
READ THE BIBLE!!!!
mathew 27:62
Mathew 28:1
Mark 15:42
Mark 16:1-2
Mark 16:9
Luke 23:54
Luke 24:1
John 19:42
John 20:1
Find me a place in the Bible that says the 7th day Sabbath was done away with.
I read biblically in Genesis that God created in 6 days and when He was finished creating he rested on the 7th day. He made the 7th day holy. He set it apart from all the other days and sanctified it. The 7th day Sabbath was first kept holy in Heaven.
In Exodus God reminds His people to keep the Sabbath day holy. They had six days out of a week for work, "but the seventh day is a Sabbath day of rest dedicated to the LORD your God."
Isaiah 56:1-2
1 Thus saith the Lord, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
Isaiah 58:13-14 “If you turn away your foot from the sabbath, from doing your pleasure on my holy day; and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shall honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: 14 Then shall you delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause you to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed you with the heritage of Jacob your father: for the mouth of the LORD has spoken it.”
Jesus did not change the Sabbath in any way during His life and ministry. "Since it cannot be changed after His death then we find the Sabbath in the New Covenant proven by it being kept after the cross. But not only that but we are told it was kept according to the Commandment after the cross.
Those claiming the Sabbath was changed to Sunday in honor of the resurrection of Christ are also proven to be in error as the New Covenant had already been sealed by the blood of Jesus two days earlier, so such a change is in fact impossible. The NC cannot be changed after it was sealed by the blood and death of Christ that Friday afternoon, and to state the obvious, Sunday is after Friday and hence Sunday is impossible. Indisputable fact! And since the Sabbath was kept according to the Commandment after the death Of Christ, then this is just one more very solid proof that the Sabbath remains a blessing for us today and that Jesus cannot be the Sabbath, which is an excuse that is becoming more popular lately. See is Jesus the Sabbath and also who changed the Sabbath to Sunday or what day is the Sabbath for further confirmation."
www.The-Ten-Commandments.org
You kept saying the church doesn’t command Catholics…What does God command. One only needs to look at the 4th commandment; the only one that starts with the word “Remember”. The catholic church admits the change in your own catechism!
The Lord's day is the SEVENTH DAY. Were ever scuses you use it won't do it . Helloooooooo
If the Catholic Church didn’t change the Sabbath then who did because SUNDAY is the first day of the week. If God didn’t do it so it really doesn’t matter who changed it to Sunday because that proves that Sunday is a false “sabbath”!I personally think the Catholic Church ARE the ones who tried to change the Sabbath.
Hmmnnn!!!!! So much rationalisation and so little (or nothing) biblical/contextual analysis .........Oh, I know; it's the "traditional" and "episcopal authority" factor!!! The discussion is thought-provoking, though! Thanks.
John 20: verse 1-- Early on the first day of the week( Sunday) while it was still dark, Miriam from Magdala saw the STONE removed from the tomb. Therefore, brothers, YAHUSHUA DIED on a WEDNESDAY on the Cross, after 3 Days and 3 Nights, ROSE on SABBATH (SATURDAY) . Please read carefully the SCRIPTURES. RESEARCH them. 🤔
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Theres no where in the Bible where it is written that Since Jesus resurrected on Sunday then Sunday Becomes a Day of Worship No No. If anybody has any supporting verse mentioning Sunday as a Day of Worship you're free to give that to me.
Exodus 31:
16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed." Here we are told that the Sabbath is to be kept Forever unless someone has a different understanding of the word Perpetual.
On top of that Jesus and His Disciples all went to church on the Sabbath.
Let us watch and pray that the Holy Spirit gives us understanding.🙏
Exodus is an old testament Catholic resting on Saturday and we didn't rest on Sunday because we worship, morning mass and bible study in afternoon.
But look at these. JESUS MAND THE FATHER ARE WORKING ON SABBATH THATS WHY HE PERSUCUTED. . there is no Catholic there is no bible and if there is no Bible there is no protestant ...... the pillar and foundation of truth is the church. Which church? To Peter upon this rock I will build my church. Not on 1800AD. What approved on earth will approve in heaven even the gates of has shall not prevail. No succession founders are died. And a human. Catholic has Jesus. Constantine convert on his dead bed.
@Rolan6684 The same old testament says that the Sabbath is supposed to be observed forever. So which biblical quotations allows you to change the Sabbath to Sunday? I've never come across any scripture that talks about people congregating on Sunday.
Give me one... Let's make quotations rather than putting out your theories which have no basis
@@mubitajosephmwepu as catholic said we do observe resting on suturday thats why we have only 5 days on work trading has only 5 days worldwide. except cypto.
and we prepare to worship on sunday. the only probem with SDA isthis your founder is not alve and given the authority upon this rok i will build my church and so on and so forth. and its said that this churck is the pillasr and the foundation of thruth. tell me if this is SDA when it was written?
@@mubitajosephmwepu no bisis? or base on your interpretation? no .. the church founded by Jesus is the pillar and foundation of thuth . not even any SDA has given the authorrity . Jesus even tell to appostle if what law has been approve on earth it will aprove in heaven. now did Mrs White witness that day? tell me. yes inthe form of demon around the backer the true founder. why because demon hated too much that he cannot decieved Jesus before he Died. and he will make a way to decieved the church that Jesus built. no one kult has the full authority given by Jesus not even mention the protestant that has to found on 1800AD. . in old testament all success by demon right? eve decieve that god told then not to eath the fuit . and he gave to adam. God get angry. now Jesus was born but now full of grace and Mary was protected and overshadow by the power of Most High.. so satan too much angry . he reveiled that during exorcism because Mary was pure... but you hated too much. ..
@Rolan6684 I asked you where you are getting Sunday as a day of worship you haven't answered. You rushed to churches because you had no answer, and if the founder is dead, does that make the Bible truth rotten? The things Martin Luther wrote about during reformation are still alive to those who read the Bible. So before you rush to putting it upon churches, answer it as scripture referring to anyone being called a Christian(All people).
Everything they said are words said by men, God never told anyone to change the day of worship. What I understand from watching these is that Catholics honor and keep doctrines that are passed down by men. Shouldnt we honor and keep Gods doctrines aka the Bible and the 10 commandments 😊
Your assertion on those scriptures is wrong. In the verse you read from Corinthians Paul is merely telling them to gather the collections on the 1st day of the week so it doesn't have to be done when he comes to speak. . Regarding Acts to "gather and break bread" simply means they got together to eat. They likely did that everyday. There is nothing in the Bible that says Sunday should be kept or remembered. Also the Catholic Church claims by its authority to have changed the solemnity of the sabbath from the 7th day to the 1st day. In my opinion Sunday came into the church when Constantine became a Christian and it was a compromise with paganism to get the pagans to come to church since they worshipped Lucifer on the venerable day of the sun or the Sunday. You guys don't know your own church history. I can give you dozens of quotes with references where the church claims to have the authority to change God's laws and the times.
The Jesuits hate this book by the way, they called the King James and Asp.
Daniel 7:25
“And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.”
God gave the commandment--cannot change it . God said Remember----Jesus said to remember His death and memorialize it, not the resurrection day. You are opining. Collections are just collections . He does not say to worship, Acts 2:46-47 they broke bread every day, so that doesn't mean anything.
That's a lie. Jesus died on Wednesday in the middle of the week
Jews did not begin the reckoning of the day at midnight, like we do, but at the previous sundown. Thus Sunday, the first day of the week, would actually begin on what we would today call sundown on Saturday. One must keep this in mind to understand the discussion.
The Jewish reckoning of when the day began allows us to determine when Jesus rose from the dead. We are told that he arose “on the first day of the week” (Mark 16:9), which could be any time between sundown on Saturday of Holy Week and sundown on Easter Sunday. However, the time frame is narrowed by the fact that we are told that the women went to the tomb, “toward the dawn of the first day of the week” (Matt. 28:1, cf. Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1) and found it empty. This means Jesus must have risen sometime during the evening portion of the first day of the week, which we would call Saturday night. Or at least he could have arisen no later than around dawn on Sunday.
@@bigfootapologetics that is a lie from the pit of hell. Matt.12:38-40 says Christ would be in the grave for 3days and 3 nites and you can't get 3days and 3nites from good Friday or bad Friday to Sunday. And in your catechism you say you changed the day and we that know truth no you are a lier. Dan 9th chapter says the Messiah will be cut off in the middle of the week. Which is Wednesday which give you what Christ said about himself he rose on the Sabbath because he is God of the Sabbath. And who is God of sun- day sun worship your farther satan
@@bigfootapologetics listen you do not get to rewrite history. God is the one and only one determine when the day begins and ends. Now Jesus said out of his own mouth that he would be in the grave for 3days 3nights and you can't get 3days and 3nights from good Friday to pagan Easter sun- day morning enough said
@@israelshells9726 I’m not rewriting history; I’m giving you how the Jews of Jesus’s day historically rendered days. This is how Christians understood the matter going back to antiquity. The only people who insist on 24-hour days have been, primarily, American Protestants in the last century or so, so if there’s any re-writing, it’s from modernists who think Good Friday was made up.
In the Bible, parts of time units were frequently counted as wholes. Thus a king might be said to have reigned for two years, even if he reigned for only fourteen months. In the same way, a day and a night does not mean a period of twenty-four hours. It can refer to any portion of a day coupled with any portion of a night. The expression “three days and three nights” could be used as simply a slightly hyperbolic way of referring to “three days.”
Not all Protestants have yielded to this anachronistic view, though.
As Protestant Bible scholar R. T. France notes: “Three days and three nights was a Jewish idiom to a period covering only two nights” (Matthew, 213).
Similarly, D. A. Carson, regarded as one of the deans of conservative Protestant Bible exegesis, explains: “In rabbinical thought a day and a night make an onah, and a part of an onah is as the whole. . . . Thus according to Jewish tradition, ‘three days and three nights’ need mean no more than ‘three days’ or the combination of any part of three separate days” (Expositor’s Bible Commentary, 8:296).
If Jesus was crucified and died Friday afternoon, that would be the first day; at sundown on Friday the second day would begin; then at sundown on Saturday the third day would begin. So Jesus was indeed “raised on the third day” (Matt. 20:19).
@@israelshells9726Facts over feelings man made religion has try to change so much its really sad 😔
Yes! Every Jew knows this fact. If you read The Torah then read The King James Version of The Bible. Then compare and contrast.
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What is the 8th day?
quote---What is the 8th day?--unquote
IF you did any reserach. the 8th day is ONLY mentioned twice for sepcific reasons. #1---Circumcision---#2---Festival--
One of the most enduring covenants God made was the covenant of circumcision with Abraham (Genesis 17:10-11). He said, “He who is eight days old among you shall be circumcised.” Being circumcised on the eighth day was symbolic of being in complete submission to God.
And:
What is the 8th day of the Holy day?
Shemini Atzeret, (Hebrew: “Eighth Day of the Solemn Assembly”), a Jewish religious festival on the eighth day of Sukkoth (Feast of Booths), considered by some to be an independent celebration immediately following Sukkoth.
The 8th day is NEVER mentioned in regards to the Sabbath.
@@mitchellosmer1293 surely if I did any research I would not ask...but since it appears you have thankyou..newbie
What was Sabbath in preparation for according to Judaism?
“The Sabbath is only a day of preparation for the 8th day when the banquet which will be laid out in the messianic Olam Haba when we will feast.” - Rabbi Yakov (Teacher of Judah haNasi/the writer of the Mishna)
Jesus is Messiah and he has already arrived, lived, died and resurrected.
As Catholics, we are living in the Messianic Olam Haba. God has put before us His feast on the 8th day, the Eucharistic Todah sacrifice of thanksgiving.
The seventh day = sabbath. So the eighth day is the day that they were preparing for. This is why in the NT the first day is also known as the eighth day as it follows the Sabbath. As you see, in the Olam Haba the day of worship is going to be the Eighth day/First day/Sunday when the Eucharistic banquet is set by God.
SDA's deny that we are living in the Messianic Age. It is a denial that Christ is the Messiah. If one is Jewish ie Hebrew-Catholic it is fine to take part in Sabbath activities but the Sabbath must not replace the day of worship which is Sunday.
How is this to be understood? The seventh day (Sabbath) is the day of preparation for the day that is to come in the Olam Haba (Sunday). God Himself will lay out the banquet. It is the Eucharist, the Todah sacrifice of thanksgiving which the sages prophesied.
The Pharisees were outraged when Jesus did “works” of healing on the Sabbath. Jesus healed on a Sabbath because He is the Lord of the Sabbath, the Sabbath has no power over Christ or His Church.
It is the Jewish apostles who began worshiping on the Eighth Day/Sunday (according to Jewish calendar)... the day following the Sabbath, because the Sabbath is now fulfilled.
quote---It is the Jewish apostles who began worshiping on the Eighth Day/Sunday (according to Jewish calendar)... the day following the Sabbath, because the Sabbath is now fulfilled.--unquote
OPINION!! Quote the Bible!!!
quote--- because the Sabbath is now fulfilled.-unquote
Since when???????
At the cross??? If so, then WHY did the women followers of Christ keep the Sabbathy that friday evening??? Did Jesus NEGLECT to tell them the Sabbath would be fulfilled at the cross??? A SIN by Jesus by OMISSION!!
The disciples KEPT the Sabbath in Acts...Again, did Jesus NEGLECT to tell even them??? ANOTHER SIN by Omission!!!
That makes Jesus a sinner--NOT qualified to be our savour--redeemer.
what a confusion!
I am quite happy to see the wall plaque of the black madonna in the background.
If you guys have NOT already done so, can you kindly have a discussion as to what was Jesus' skin colour.
It will definitely assist in healing our divided church.
I vote not to have the discussion or even give it credence. Skin color is irrelevant to salvation.
Jesus was Jewish. Most likely tan looking.
this is by far the dumbest debate within christianity
For us Catholics every human is a son/daughter of God and that is the only identity that matters. The Catholic Church - it knew no color. It knew no ethinicity. It knew no culture. It only knew Jesus.
@@jpvill4280 If we look at middle-eastern Mizrahi jews in Israel today that is what He looked like.
The only sign is that he will be like the prophet Jonah. Yeshua will be in the belly for the earth 3 days end 3 nights. We should believe Him and start counting the days and night. If he was "buried" on Friday the morning of the 3rd day would be Monday. And since the Isrealites start a new day at evening the 3rd day after His crucifixion would be the evening oh Monday.
If you say that the Messiah was crucified on a Friday? Then you just made him a false prophet! According to the Scriptures He should be seen as a person who does not have God (YeHoVaH) in him.
Sorry Yeshua was hung on the cross on Thursday before a High Holy day and he arose Saturday night after the Sabbath, timeline 6:01 pm Saturday
And that is the mark of the beast,
How can you say he died on Friday when there was no calendar they went by. They didn’t go by any of that
Of course they had a calendar!!!
I always said a question about the sabbath day and the Old testament Why is it? Could you wish person worked on the sabbath day? They were stolen to death and that doesn't happen today. I was sure? Yes. Like to know? The. Answer why? No. One is being stone To death for breaking the Salvatore.
quote----The. Answer why? No. One is being stone To death for breaking the Salvatore.--unquote
That was a Law of Moses--A Jewish Law!!! btw, apparently you have forgotten the commandment: Thou shall not murder.
Was the fact that followers of Jesus were not allowed into Temple to worship? Hebrews persecuted & put to death followers of Jesus. Having a different day for worship was a matter of self-preservation. .
quote---Was the fact that followers of Jesus were not allowed into Temple to worship? Hebrews persecuted & put to death followers of Jesus. Having a different day for worship was a matter of self-preservation. .-unquote
Acts 2:46 46 With one accord they continued to meet daily in the temple courts and to break bread from house to house, sharing their meals with gladness and sincerity of heart,
@trollpatrol7215 quote---He rose on Sunday. Sent the Holy Spirit (birth of the Church) on Sunday. John received the Revelation on Sunday. Three strikes IN FAVOR.--unquote
NOPE------He rose on Sunday to fulfill prophesy!!!
Sent the Holy Spirit (birth of the Church) on Sunday.
Quote it from scripture
John received the Revelation on Sunday
Nope!!! What day is the Lord's Day????? Isaiah 58:13
“If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath
and from doing as you please on MY HOLY DAY,
if you call the Sabbath a delight
and the Lord’s HOLY DAY honorable,
and if you honor it by not going your own way
and not doing as you please or speaking idle words,
--SABBATH--seventh day!!!!
The ONLY DAY GOD RESTED ON....
The ONLY DAY GOD BLESSED
..The ONLY DAY GOD SANCTIFIED--(Made Holy)..
The ONLY DAY GOD Named--Sabbath..
The ONLY DAY GOD DECLARES AS HIS HOLY DAY!!!!
--Just because something happened on Sunday DOES NOT make that day Holy!!!
The Last Supper happened on a Thursday night. Do you celebrate that day???
It amuses me to see unlearned jokers like these interpret the back of the book, without reading the front of it 😂🤣😜; 🤥.
The sabbath is supposed to be a holy convocation. This is twisted teaching.
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The lord’s chicken is tasty
All it requires is basic math. Dying on a Friday and rising on a Sunday does not constitute 3 days and 3 nights. Your entire conversation is bogus. Let me knock you off your chair - When you finally discover that Jesus actually rose on the Sabbath day (Saturday) you will wish you never even had this conversation. Go do the digging.
Jesus does not exist. You all are worshipping an Idol God. You all are wrong in quoting the scriptures. The Bible is about the real Hebrew Israelites. Not you all. Jesus was created by the Catholics. Just like they change our worship from Sabbath to Sunday. We as Hebrews don't believe in Jesus. We believe in The CREATOR who names is YAH. The one who gave us life. No-one can die for the sins of another. We die for our own sins. Deuteronomy 24:16. Shalom
Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus.
Jesus was a Jew
The talmidim of Yeshua is Jewish and they worship on the shabbat as the Lord commanded his people. You never see any scripture that commanded his talmidim. Full of liars
Jesus died on Wednesday, not Friday! You can’t get 3 days and 3 nights from Friday to Sunday morning.
You misunderstand how the ancient Jews calculated days. We even here in the Gospel that He had to be buried quickly because it was about to be the Sabbath (sundown on Friday). He was dead on Friday, He was Dead on Saturday, ON the 3rd day He rose.
quote---Jesus died on Wednesday, not Friday! You can’t get 3 days and 3 nights from Friday to Sunday morning.--unquote
Sunset Thursday to Sunset friday---Jesus crucified Friday before sunset)--Day one
Sunset Friday--to sunset Saturday --Jesus rested--- Day two
Sunset Saturday began day three---- After sunset , Jesus rose.
When did Jesus die? Jesus died at “the ninth hour” from sunrise, or about 3 o’clock in the afternoon of the Jewish Passover. (Mark 15:33-37) He died on Nisan 14, 33 C.E., which ran from Thursday evening to Friday evening. That date corresponds to Friday, April 1, 33 C.E., according to modern calendars. He was resurrected on the third day, early Sunday morning.
No He didn’t 😂
Lying against the law of God
Full of lies and misinformation. Shame on you!
SOME ARE BEYOND HOPE FOR SALVATION: GOD HAS GIVEN THEM OVER TO A DEPRAVED MIND, THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY WANT REGARDLESS OF WHAT GOD HAS SAID. THEY SAY MOTHER OF GOD, THEY THINK MARY IS AN INTERCESSOR AFTER GOD’S WORD SAYS THERE IS ONE GOD, AND ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN, THE MAN JESUS CHRIST, (EXCLUSIVELY) 1 TIMOTHY 2:5, AND THOSE OF OTHER RELIGIONS WHICH DOES NOT EXIST IN GOD’S EYES HE WILL REJECT ALSO. A CONSCIENCE WITHOUT GOD CAN NO LONGER SEE OR CARE FOR GOD, A CONSCIENCE WITHOUT GOD HAS NO CONVICTIONS WHATSOEVER, BECAUSE GOD HAS REJECTED THEM, GOD SEES THEM AS UNFIT,GOOD FOR NOTHING, BUT TO BE BURNED. TAKING FROM, ADDING TO, AND UNDERMINING GOD’S WORD IS ALL THEY DO TO THEIR OWN DETRIMENT. REVERSING GOD’S WORD IS A SURE SIGN OF A DEPRAVED MIND, THEY HAVE REACHED THE POINT OF NO RETURN IN GOD’S EYES, GOD HAS GIVEN THEM OVER TO THEIR SINS ROMANS 1:27-29. DON’T REACH THE POINT OF NO RETURN, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO FORGIVENESS IN THIS WORLD, NEITHER IN THE WORLD TO COME. FOR THOSE WHO CAN STILL REPENT, GOD SURELY WILL FORGIVE, SAYS THE LORD.
Wah wah wah. Who asked you prot.
Why don’t you scream your heretic beliefs louder, you are still wrong
Exodus 31:16 the keyword here is (PERPETUAL) that means forever, people like to say that was for the Jews, now every Christian, who believes in Jesus Christ is now the adopted children of Abraham we Christians are now the chosen of GOD and being His chosen, we must keep His Sabbath. It did not change we did, the stranger who dwelleth with Israel are to be treated like they were born of Israel ; and the strangers kept the sabbath.
Leviticus, 19:34
March 7, 321 AD Constantine decreed making Sunday a public holy day : Defying GOD.
so silly
Jésus Christ didn't die on Friday. According to the scripture if stayed 3 days in the grave. From Friday afternoon to Sunday morning.... Doesn't make 3
he said he rose on the third day, 1st Corinthians 15:4
friday, saturday and SUNDAY
@@uchennanwogu2142 Friday afternoon to Sunday morning doesn't make 3 days.
John 2:19-21
@@ContactMinistryOfficielRight that is not three days!
Sabath is true bro