One omission in the piece would be the WW2 B-Uhr/ Luftwaffe watches. The design is seen today in lots of manufacturers watches as well as faithful reproductions. The whole German watchmaking industry produced them, including A.Lange
You missed out these historical important watches : 1. Lange, Laco, Stowa & Wempe for B Uhr flieger 2. The first GMT pilot : Glycine Airman...Rolex gmt wasn’t the first Anyway, love your vid!!
Simply Vintage Watches Oh , that makes sense. A photo of sissy Pepsi in jubilee was shown instead of the original Pan Am GMT .... that’s no coincidence.
@@simplyvintagewatches5349 It's interesting because TGV just did a Rant video on how many watch source (magazines) do sponsored content for the big brands (Rolex). It seems like Watchbox studies, where TGV works now, may be doing the same by omitting the relevance of Glycine Airman, as well as German brands like Laco and Stowa
You forgot the Tutima and Hanhardt pilots chronographs of the 30s. Tutima sold over 30,000 of them mainly to the military and Steve McQueen wore a Hanhardt before the Daytona. Then there were the B-Uhr style watches built for the RLM specifications which many of the modern pilot watches take their styling ques from. These were produced by the likes of A. Lange & Sohne and IWC who carried the look forward with their Mark series for the British. And we can't forget the French who came up with their own military avation specification, type 20 (XX) in the early 50s. Several manufactures provided these, among them Dodane, Breguet , and Zenith (rainbow El Primero). I believe the pattern is still in use by Doudane and Breguet. Of course there were a series of NATO approved pilot watches in the 50s, 60, 70s from the likes of Sinn, Tutima, Fortis that are based on the Lemania 5100 movement . It's a large topic to cover in 7 minutes! I haven't mentioned the astronaut/moon watches, that's it's own topic and not really avation. I''m sure I missed something but it's a start.
Good and instructive video! Just one thing: although he went to France to study and experiment in aeronautics, Alberto Santos Dumont was in fact Brazilian (he was born in the then Brazilian Empire, in 1873, in the State of Minas Gerais).
Correction about Santos Dumont, Brazilian inventor who invented airplane (according to CNN): edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/12/10/brazil.santosdumont.reut/
Great history lesson. I own a Sinn 856 b uhr flieger tegamented on a bracelet. Knowing Helmut Sinn was a pilot made me understand the pilots watch style and it’s used. Thank you sir keep the lessons coming.
Scene 1. It is very inconvenient to reach out for my pocket watch. Scene 2. Wrist watch. Scene 3. Watches are not needed, you can reach out for your cellphone. Scene 4. Wrist watch. Ok ok, I just love watches. Thank you for the content. Have a great day everybody!
Very cool video. I especially like the comparison you gave between the "first watch for a pilot" and the "first pilot watch"; spot on! It should have been worth to mention the watches that were used by the Wright brothers, Wiley Post, and Charles Lindbergh. Also, some mention about the merging between "pilot watches" and combat watches". Pilotsthat were shot down in combat required a watch that could withstand ground combat conditions in order to survive, escape and evade.
Great video guys! One of my favorites, and one of the best pieces in my collection, is the A-11 series from WWII. Also a bit on the smaller side at 36 mm. But a favorite for American pilots. I'd really love to get my hands on a B-Uhr as well.
Leandro Limeres not relevant how? Is it because you don’t want to recognize that I’m correct? Seriously everyone knows the Wright Brothers were first. Your comment has no purpose, it’s just incorrect, misinformation.
Leandro Limeres look what you said, you said he invented the airplane. That’s patently false. The Wright Brothers invented the first airplane as theirs was the first to take flight under its own power. That’s an airplane, we aren’t talking gliders or anything else. You’re just wrong, no matter what, then statement you made is incorrect . That’s all there is to it and it’s laughable that you’d think your incorrect answer would somehow stand to “correct” someone else. You’re clearly not very well versed on the subject matter in this case at all.
war is what made wrist watches popular with soldiers- they did not want to put their rifles down to go search for their pocket watches keeping their eyes off the enemy- a time piece on the wrist would be a better idea....
3:00 [Extols virtues of slide rule on the bezel] - Are you sure any navigator in history actually used it that way, and it wasn't just an affectation for consumers?
Pilots watches were and are tool watches. For example WW1 planes didn't have fuel gauges. It was necessary to calculate your flight time to be sure of not running out of fuel. They are a significant part of watch history. Omegas Speedmaster and Seamaster are iconic. Glycine Airman?
Lost me right off the rip with “AlberT Santos-Dumont was a French…” Alberto* Santos-Dumont was Brazilian… & IWC made very few Fliegers compared to Stowa, Laco & Lange. WWII pilots watches were not what got civilians interested in wrist watches… I had to stop watching after that part. Horrible video 😂
How on earth do we miss out the big 5 producers and the Beobachtungsuhr or B-Uhren watches. The 55mm case sizes started much earlier here too, you only have to look at the dates for the a type and b type watches. For this we need to talk about Laco, Stowa, IWC, Wempe and A Lange and Sohne. It is absolutely wrong and crazy to miss out all of these manufacturers and to not speak of the a and b types and just leap from the early years into a much nearer modern time. I mean hoe can we even consider pilot watches without regard to the Baumuster b? To not speak of these watches and their requirements inclusive of factors like the lack of branding and high legibility etc. The history is the history. P.S And technically these were observation and therfore navigator's watches, rather than for the Pilot, but in your video you have got hung up on "pilot" rather than aviation.
Primer reloj pulsera aviacion cartier si pero hablar de relojes de aviacion poner a breingling .iwc. dejarte hamilton y longines lo de siempre casas sobrevaloradas y no se mira las cosas por su verdadera historia sobre todo hamilton que es la única manufactura con dos medallas por el ejército americano tanto en cronometro de marina campo o aviacion los mejores en la segunda gran gerra y producido más u mejor que cualquier casa europea de hecho hay varias menciones históricas que si no hubiese sido por la precisión de hamilton no se hubiese ganado la guerra se nombra tanvien al famoso bulova calibre 11 del cual tengo uno pero hamilton fue y es mejor
Santos-Dumont was Brazilian. He did live in France for a short periods of time.
One omission in the piece would be the WW2 B-Uhr/ Luftwaffe watches. The design is seen today in lots of manufacturers watches as well as faithful reproductions. The whole German watchmaking industry produced them, including A.Lange
i know I'm kinda off topic but does anybody know a good place to watch new movies online?
The Rolex GMT was supposed to be a pilot’s tool watch..but it ended up being a watch for tools.
You missed out these historical important watches :
1. Lange, Laco, Stowa & Wempe for B Uhr flieger
2. The first GMT pilot : Glycine Airman...Rolex gmt wasn’t the first
Anyway, love your vid!!
was thinking the same thing.
Simply Vintage Watches Oh , that makes sense. A photo of sissy Pepsi in jubilee was shown instead of the original Pan Am GMT .... that’s no coincidence.
@@simplyvintagewatches5349 It's interesting because TGV just did a Rant video on how many watch source (magazines) do sponsored content for the big brands (Rolex). It seems like Watchbox studies, where TGV works now, may be doing the same by omitting the relevance of Glycine Airman, as well as German brands like Laco and Stowa
And Breguet
Irving Escobar Yes! I missed that important Transatlantic .
You forgot the Tutima and Hanhardt pilots chronographs of the 30s. Tutima sold over 30,000 of them mainly to the military and Steve McQueen wore a Hanhardt before the Daytona. Then there were the B-Uhr style watches built for the RLM specifications which many of the modern pilot watches take their styling ques from. These were produced by the likes of A. Lange & Sohne and IWC who carried the look forward with their Mark series for the British. And we can't forget the French who came up with their own military avation specification, type 20 (XX) in the early 50s. Several manufactures provided these, among them Dodane, Breguet , and Zenith (rainbow El Primero). I believe the pattern is still in use by Doudane and Breguet. Of course there were a series of NATO approved pilot watches in the 50s, 60, 70s from the likes of Sinn, Tutima, Fortis that are based on the Lemania 5100 movement . It's a large topic to cover in 7 minutes! I haven't mentioned the astronaut/moon watches, that's it's own topic and not really avation.
I''m sure I missed something but it's a start.
You cannot forget of laco and Stowa before IWC......
Don't forget to wear your Laco, Stowa or IWC on Flieger Friday.
Good and instructive video! Just one thing: although he went to France to study and experiment in aeronautics, Alberto Santos Dumont was in fact Brazilian (he was born in the then Brazilian Empire, in 1873, in the State of Minas Gerais).
I believe Santos-Dumont was Brazilian.
Absolutely brilliant informative video.
Wonderful overview.
Stowa, Laco & Wempe were the pioneers for B type flieger uhr.
Glycine was the pioneer of GMT watch, NOT Rolex.
Please be OBJECTIVE!!
Santos Dumont was a Brazilian aviator
Great video! When I think Pilot watch, Zenith is what comes to mind.
Of all the watch channels I 'watched' , this guy explains it most clearly
Armand needs his own show...have him on Tuesday nights with Callahan or Manjos...
Correction about Santos Dumont, Brazilian inventor who invented airplane (according to CNN): edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/12/10/brazil.santosdumont.reut/
Great video explaining the history of the pilot’s watch, the different types and when and why they were developed!
Great stuff
I am a pilot and I use a bezel watch to time dead reckoning nav and tank changes, GMT finger is useful too. Do you know why?
Another great Classroom well presented on "The Pilot".
Love how the music comes on, as the GMT is introduced. Respect.
Glycine Airman is commonly
overlooked but has a history worth mentioning.
Nice video, thanks. One piece ought to be mentioned: Lindberg Hour Angle by Longines. that is the first true pilot tool watch.
Great history lesson. I own a Sinn 856 b uhr flieger tegamented on a bracelet. Knowing Helmut Sinn was a pilot made me understand the pilots watch style and it’s used. Thank you sir keep the lessons coming.
Mark 11 from IWC produced for WW2 pilots and navigators was 36mm and still considered an icon .
Scene 1. It is very inconvenient to reach out for my pocket watch.
Scene 2. Wrist watch.
Scene 3. Watches are not needed, you can reach out for your cellphone.
Scene 4. Wrist watch.
Ok ok, I just love watches.
Thank you for the content. Have a great day everybody!
Air force watches like the Dirty Dozen and 6B/346's - very cool part of aviation and watch history
I love so much the classroom. Thank you watchbox
Awesome!
To mention B-Uhr design and at all introduction of chronograph would be a good as well
Very cool video. I especially like the comparison you gave between the "first watch for a pilot" and the "first pilot watch"; spot on! It should have been worth to mention the watches that were used by the Wright brothers, Wiley Post, and Charles Lindbergh. Also, some mention about the merging between "pilot watches" and combat watches". Pilotsthat were shot down in combat required a watch that could withstand ground combat conditions in order to survive, escape and evade.
Excellent review
wooohoo :D
I was looking for this kind of videos :D
Interesting video do they make a pirate watch?
Nice to see my awesome Zenith Type 20 getting the attention it deserves…at 48mm it’s not for everyone tho’!
How you gonna talk about pilots watches and not talk about Stowa and Laco?
Glycine Airman was the first to show two timezones although with a movable bezel. Still it was the 1st with gmt functionality.
Great video guys! One of my favorites, and one of the best pieces in my collection, is the A-11 series from WWII. Also a bit on the smaller side at 36 mm. But a favorite for American pilots. I'd really love to get my hands on a B-Uhr as well.
Hey, Santos Dumont was a brazilian aviator who actually invented the airplane. Do your homework!
Leandro Limeres umm invented the airplane?
Ever heard of the Wright Brothers?
@@vtwinbuilder3129 Yeah, but not relevant...
Leandro Limeres not relevant how? Is it because you don’t want to recognize that I’m correct? Seriously everyone knows the Wright Brothers were first. Your comment has no purpose, it’s just incorrect, misinformation.
Leandro Limeres look what you said, you said he invented the airplane. That’s patently false. The Wright Brothers invented the first airplane as theirs was the first to take flight under its own power. That’s an airplane, we aren’t talking gliders or anything else. You’re just wrong, no matter what, then statement you made is incorrect . That’s all there is to it and it’s laughable that you’d think your incorrect answer would somehow stand to “correct” someone else. You’re clearly not very well versed on the subject matter in this case at all.
@@vtwinbuilder3129 You are unfortunately wrong! Dumont invented. Sorry to disagree!
Alberto SANTOS DUMMOND was a Brazilian man living in France, not a French man. And he’s also the actual inventor of the airplane ✈️
I liked your movie dude. I have a IWC LPP Chrono my self :) Love it.
Agree completely. How do you not mention Lange, Laco, etc?
The first watch in space was Russian Poljot worn by Yuriy Gagarin. Omega was the first watch on the moon.
Please don't do this to me... Alberto Santos Dumont is Brazilian, not French.
Terrible mistake in the first minute of video... Stopped watching immediately!
Good video but no mention of Glycine. Maybe not enough money to be made off of selling a Glycine to mention vs a Rolex GMT Master.
So we got Rolex, but not Stowa, Laco, Sinn, Zeppelin ... at least we got Longines and Zenith
How about railroad watches?
@@mwl78rwe I meant that as a suggestion for a future episode.
Pilot's watches are much cooler and more interesting than diver's watches.
Oops you forgot about the BR01 and BR03-92 and the designs taken out of the instrument panel.
That original Cartier Santos - I want it !
ow to use it !
I miss the Hanhart Pioneer.
No Glycine Airman?
I'm here because of the movie “Top Gun” 2022
Patek Philippe 5524G will be the most coveted pilots watch in the future.
How did we not talk about the Turn-o-graph?!?
I like this guy
Brazilian Aviator. 🇧🇷
war is what made wrist watches popular with soldiers- they did not want to put their rifles down to go search for their pocket watches keeping their eyes off the enemy- a time piece on the wrist would be a better idea....
Santos Dummond was brazilian
Alberto Santos Dumont was BRAZILIAN
3:00 [Extols virtues of slide rule on the bezel] - Are you sure any navigator in history actually used it that way, and it wasn't just an affectation for consumers?
Next level watch history! I love the IWC Le petit prince!
man... you are talking pilot's watchs and yet no mention of the other 4 brands of German fliegers? come on...
Pilots watches were and are tool watches. For example WW1 planes didn't have fuel gauges. It was necessary to calculate your flight time to be sure of not running out of fuel. They are a significant part of watch history. Omegas Speedmaster and Seamaster are iconic. Glycine Airman?
All you did was say what all the other TH-camrs said. Wikipedia
Quick, someone tell this kid he needs to shave, he’s of age now!
GLYCINE was the world first multi time zone watch.
SANTOS DUMONT WAS BRAZILIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOT FRENCH
Lost me right off the rip with “AlberT Santos-Dumont was a French…” Alberto* Santos-Dumont was Brazilian… & IWC made very few Fliegers compared to Stowa, Laco & Lange. WWII pilots watches were not what got civilians interested in wrist watches… I had to stop watching after that part. Horrible video 😂
How on earth do we miss out the big 5 producers and the Beobachtungsuhr or B-Uhren watches. The 55mm case sizes started much earlier here too, you only have to look at the dates for the a type and b type watches. For this we need to talk about Laco, Stowa, IWC, Wempe and A Lange and Sohne.
It is absolutely wrong and crazy to miss out all of these manufacturers and to not speak of the a and b types and just leap from the early years into a much nearer modern time. I mean hoe can we even consider pilot watches without regard to the Baumuster b? To not speak of these watches and their requirements inclusive of factors like the lack of branding and high legibility etc.
The history is the history.
P.S
And technically these were observation and therfore navigator's watches, rather than for the Pilot, but in your video you have got hung up on "pilot" rather than aviation.
What a guy!!!
Why do you think 24-hr watches was invented for pilots ?
Thank goodness panerai is not included
Why would they be? Nobody ever claimed they are pilot's watches
Good vid, nice narrative. Presentation? Meh....🤔🤔🤔
Glad you just put the camera on yourself and never showed a watch.
Primer reloj pulsera aviacion cartier si pero hablar de relojes de aviacion poner a breingling .iwc. dejarte hamilton y longines lo de siempre casas sobrevaloradas y no se mira las cosas por su verdadera historia sobre todo hamilton que es la única manufactura con dos medallas por el ejército americano tanto en cronometro de marina campo o aviacion los mejores en la segunda gran gerra y producido más u mejor que cualquier casa europea de hecho hay varias menciones históricas que si no hubiese sido por la precisión de hamilton no se hubiese ganado la guerra se nombra tanvien al famoso bulova calibre 11 del cual tengo uno pero hamilton fue y es mejor
You didn't menation B-Uhr watches at all. Shame on you!