You know what we need? More Jack. These need to be 20 minutes long, on him pontificating on whatever he wants to talk about. That ST:TOS deepdive was unexpected and welcome.
I always assumed a pilot's watch had larger easy to read numbers and a field watch was also easy to read but was crammed with numbers. Didn't think about the magnetism of the watch. Cool to know.
"introspection like we find in the Space Jam watches" resulted in me spitting out my coffee. Jack owes me a new keyboard. Great vid as always Team Hodinkee!
Never thought I'd see a shot of my humble Orient Defender in the annals of Hodinkee in all my years. Gonna bump it up in the wrist time pecking order just for the occasion.
I’ve been doing it since I got my Apple Watch a few months ago, I now try to leave my phone at home and use the cellular Apple Watch as my basic phone. Having always assumed nobody pays much attention to watches outside the small world of watch geeks, I’ve been really surprised at how many people have commented on my double wristing.
I feel like complaining about lug widths fall to the same category with the endless nagging about date windows, or mourning about the lack of lume in a dress watch.
Hodinkee Travel Clock must be the best collab. Jokes aside, I would've liked to hear concrete opinions on some collaborations, rather than trying to wriggle out of answering the question.
This is a rather pedantic point from someone who used to, on occasion, give university level material science lectures, but it's not technically true that every alloy will experience fatigue under a cyclic load... In fact, steel and other BCC metals have a "fatigue limit (or endurance limit)," which is a stress amplitude under which the material WILL NOT fail from fatigue. Having said that, it may be true that in practical application a mainspring will always be cycled above its fatigue limit. One could run an example calculation and find out for themselves if interested.
@@the_once-and-future_king. I dont know about that. Historically I think that pilot watches did not surpassed the 44mm, but thats of course compared to 34/36mm mens watches. And I feel that more brands should adopt smaller watches, I like to wear 36/38mm my self, and only a few watches are still true pilot watches. Only some heritage designs like the IWC Big Pilot shouldn't become the 'small pilot.'
@@JeanSuki The classic fliegers that set the standard were closer to 50mm, at-a-glance legibility, and large crown for setting while wearing gloves. Now obviously such things aren't really needed in electronic, air conditioned, planes but if you dig the traditional vibes (as I do) then they need to retain the presence. I think reducing the size too much takes away some of the spirit. (This is MY opinion for me, and is not in any way disparaging to anyone who prefers a smaller size)
I think the 19/21mm lug width question is a fair one. I have an Omega speedmaster automatic with 21mm lug width and I wanted to get a quality leather strap for it, but couldn't find many. Last time I checked, Hodinkee had NO straps for a 21 mm lug width. Even Omega doesn't have much of a selection.
@@recalcitrantgrackle2500 Thank you for your insight and advice. I just checked their website but I couldn't find what I was looking for, as they were offering very exotic leathers, and I'm really looking for something plainer, like some of the designs I saw in the Hodinkee web shop (I still find it ironic how Mr. Forster talks about celebrating the diversity of odd-numbered lug widths, yet they offer relatively few options for these lug widths. It's better than it used to be, I will admit, but it's still limited).
@@michaellupu2080 may sound funny but you might be able to find a good cobbler to sort it out. Sounds backwards but good cobblers are excellent leather craftsmen. Same with getting a belt sized. Cobblers dude .. almost a lost art
@Nigel Molesworth Perhaps you're right. So far I only looked at the "obvious" international sources like Omega, Hodinkee and Jean Rousseau and couldn't find much. I live in Romania and don't know of local craftspeople that can fit the bill. Maybe your circumstance is different than mine. Either way, I don't care for you condescending tone.
@@hillskee Thank you for yours and Nigel's reply and advice: I just had to look harder. I found a maker from Holland (seems to be Hodinkee's counterpart/competitor here in Europe) with a great collection and I found exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for the push!
What I don't understand is why motorsport themed watches don't have better lume more often? I'm not talking about the gimmicky surface level motorsports designs you mentioned. But, true motorsports, either simple 3 hand or chronographs. The lume on those often are quite small and when they have it, even if a little larger, not all that bright. Ok, I guess there can be an argument that 1)too bright a lume could be distracting in the dark. However, I doubt no more brighter than glowing instrument gauges and what nots inside the car at night.. And 2) you shouldn't be looking at the time while driving... To the latter I would say that's maybe precisely why one should have better lume to quickly get a better reading in the dark so you can concentrate on the road and driving. Idk? For me, with abundance of excellent modern lume formulas, there's no excuse not to have great lume regardless of the theme and design style of the watch... Which, as an offshoot to this lume question, I don't understand why a fair number of Swiss brands that have been making dive watches for decades still use surprisingly weak lume on their modern dive watches? They are adequate, but annoyingly underwhelming considering some brands are only mostly known for their dive watches and still don't offer the best lume in them.
NASA and the Speedmaster is hardly a perfunctory collaboration. Remove the “Flight Qualified by NASA for all manned space missions” from the back, and I would still proudly wear this pilot’s watch.
Re: odd lug widths, I think all but a few niche brands don’t really consider or care that someone would change straps. I’m lucky that by chance my Reverso duo and Hodinkee x Longines both have 19mm, my previous watch a grand Seiko sbgw235 also had 19mm lugs bizarrely.
for common people, the field watch is the same as a pilot watch....except the strap (nylon for the field watch/leather for the pilot watch)..... Historically, pilots needed large crown to adjust watches while wearing gloves.
I think Jack can have a pretty successful TH-cam channel if he wanted to. He could talk about whatever that he finds interesting, and I'd probably watch it. I feel like he's some kind of a human encyclopedia.
This whole video for me was about that bird thing behind. It's so distracting yet interesting at the same time. How is that thing 'loading' the liquid to the upper side and how does it keep moving? Anyway, what did Jack say?
PILOT WATCHES should have a triangle at 12 instead of the number 12. Historically, pilot watches should be larger with disproportionately large crowns.
Design wise similar but Isnt Pilot watch bigger with an oversize crown? But I guess its bigger partly because of the faraday iron inner case and hey why are you wearing an apple watch 🤣
You know what we need? More Jack. These need to be 20 minutes long, on him pontificating on whatever he wants to talk about. That ST:TOS deepdive was unexpected and welcome.
I always assumed a pilot's watch had larger easy to read numbers and a field watch was also easy to read but was crammed with numbers. Didn't think about the magnetism of the watch. Cool to know.
If Jack Forester were my professor, I'd show up to class every day
This gentleman rocking 2 watches like nobody’s business. An absolute utilitarian.
"introspection like we find in the Space Jam watches" resulted in me spitting out my coffee. Jack owes me a new keyboard. Great vid as always Team Hodinkee!
Never thought I'd see a shot of my humble Orient Defender in the annals of Hodinkee in all my years. Gonna bump it up in the wrist time pecking order just for the occasion.
I love that Jack is double-wristing to capture those health metrics on the Apple Watch. Let’s get that trend going strong!
I’ve been doing it since I got my Apple Watch a few months ago, I now try to leave my phone at home and use the cellular Apple Watch as my basic phone.
Having always assumed nobody pays much attention to watches outside the small world of watch geeks, I’ve been really surprised at how many people have commented on my double wristing.
Insightful considerations about the pilot’s watch. Always worth watching these short Q & A.
I feel like complaining about lug widths fall to the same category with the endless nagging about date windows, or mourning about the lack of lume in a dress watch.
Hodinkee Travel Clock must be the best collab. Jokes aside, I would've liked to hear concrete opinions on some collaborations, rather than trying to wriggle out of answering the question.
This is a rather pedantic point from someone who used to, on occasion, give university level material science lectures, but it's not technically true that every alloy will experience fatigue under a cyclic load... In fact, steel and other BCC metals have a "fatigue limit (or endurance limit)," which is a stress amplitude under which the material WILL NOT fail from fatigue.
Having said that, it may be true that in practical application a mainspring will always be cycled above its fatigue limit. One could run an example calculation and find out for themselves if interested.
The only thing i dislike about these Q&As is that there isn't enough of them. 🥰
Hey Hodinkee ... where the " Reference Points Rolex Explorer I " episode ?
Agreed
Isnt a pilot watch also supposed to be a bigger watch? So that a pilot can see it without taking his hands of the controls.
Yep. That's why it annoys me when people comment "I hope they make it in 36/38mm!"
I always reply that they should be more like 46/48mm (or bigger).
I thought pilots had to have 20/20 vision?
@@the_once-and-future_king. I dont know about that. Historically I think that pilot watches did not surpassed the 44mm, but thats of course compared to 34/36mm mens watches.
And I feel that more brands should adopt smaller watches, I like to wear 36/38mm my self, and only a few watches are still true pilot watches. Only some heritage designs like the IWC Big Pilot shouldn't become the 'small pilot.'
@@JeanSuki The classic fliegers that set the standard were closer to 50mm, at-a-glance legibility, and large crown for setting while wearing gloves.
Now obviously such things aren't really needed in electronic, air conditioned, planes but if you dig the traditional vibes (as I do) then they need to retain the presence. I think reducing the size too much takes away some of the spirit. (This is MY opinion for me, and is not in any way disparaging to anyone who prefers a smaller size)
This series is great. What encyclopedic knowledge! Keep em coming, so much better than a lot of the inane commentary
Happy new year Jack and hodinkee all 🎉
I think the issue with weird lug widths is people want to use their existing strap collections. Not many people own 19mm straps.
My favorite "collaboration" was Sean Connery wearing a Submariner as James Bond.
Impressive Star Trek knowledge 🖖🏻
Excellent episode, thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
Best collab: Patek and Tiffany. No one else comes close
I think the 19/21mm lug width question is a fair one. I have an Omega speedmaster automatic with 21mm lug width and I wanted to get a quality leather strap for it, but couldn't find many.
Last time I checked, Hodinkee had NO straps for a 21 mm lug width.
Even Omega doesn't have much of a selection.
Try Aaron Bespoke. He made a stunning ostrich strap for my Grey Side of the Moon
@@recalcitrantgrackle2500 Thank you for your insight and advice.
I just checked their website but I couldn't find what I was looking for, as they were offering very exotic leathers, and I'm really looking for something plainer, like some of the designs I saw in the Hodinkee web shop (I still find it ironic how Mr. Forster talks about celebrating the diversity of odd-numbered lug widths, yet they offer relatively few options for these lug widths. It's better than it used to be, I will admit, but it's still limited).
@@michaellupu2080 may sound funny but you might be able to find a good cobbler to sort it out. Sounds backwards but good cobblers are excellent leather craftsmen. Same with getting a belt sized. Cobblers dude .. almost a lost art
@Nigel Molesworth Perhaps you're right. So far I only looked at the "obvious" international sources like Omega, Hodinkee and Jean Rousseau and couldn't find much. I live in Romania and don't know of local craftspeople that can fit the bill. Maybe your circumstance is different than mine.
Either way, I don't care for you condescending tone.
@@hillskee Thank you for yours and Nigel's reply and advice: I just had to look harder. I found a maker from Holland (seems to be Hodinkee's counterpart/competitor here in Europe) with a great collection and I found exactly what I was looking for.
Thank you for the push!
Another very cool episode. Well done, Jack.
Nice Doors reference (or perhaps the Odyssey). Now I feel old. Great video!
Excellent twist at the end (space jam). Really cool and smart guy. Regards.
The pilot vs field watch was educational!
What I don't understand is why motorsport themed watches don't have better lume more often? I'm not talking about the gimmicky surface level motorsports designs you mentioned. But, true motorsports, either simple 3 hand or chronographs. The lume on those often are quite small and when they have it, even if a little larger, not all that bright.
Ok, I guess there can be an argument that 1)too bright a lume could be distracting in the dark. However, I doubt no more brighter than glowing instrument gauges and what nots inside the car at night.. And 2) you shouldn't be looking at the time while driving... To the latter I would say that's maybe precisely why one should have better lume to quickly get a better reading in the dark so you can concentrate on the road and driving.
Idk? For me, with abundance of excellent modern lume formulas, there's no excuse not to have great lume regardless of the theme and design style of the watch... Which, as an offshoot to this lume question, I don't understand why a fair number of Swiss brands that have been making dive watches for decades still use surprisingly weak lume on their modern dive watches? They are adequate, but annoyingly underwhelming considering some brands are only mostly known for their dive watches and still don't offer the best lume in them.
Thank you, i learned a new word today from your video. :)
Hey Jack, what is the reference of your Apple watch?
NASA and the Speedmaster is hardly a perfunctory collaboration. Remove the “Flight Qualified by NASA for all manned space missions” from the back, and I would still proudly wear this pilot’s watch.
I’m a little confused about the name change, but sounds good!
Re: odd lug widths, I think all but a few niche brands don’t really consider or care that someone would change straps. I’m lucky that by chance my Reverso duo and Hodinkee x Longines both have 19mm, my previous watch a grand Seiko sbgw235 also had 19mm lugs bizarrely.
for common people, the field watch is the same as a pilot watch....except the strap (nylon for the field watch/leather for the pilot watch)..... Historically, pilots needed large crown to adjust watches while wearing gloves.
Hey Jack
Did you change Cartier's mid video.?
I think the Panerai/Ferrari collaborations are among the best looking Panerai's ever made.
I think Jack can have a pretty successful TH-cam channel if he wanted to. He could talk about whatever that he finds interesting, and I'd probably watch it. I feel like he's some kind of a human encyclopedia.
@Nigel Molesworth I don’t know.
Best one yet
This whole video for me was about that bird thing behind. It's so distracting yet interesting at the same time. How is that thing 'loading' the liquid to the upper side and how does it keep moving? Anyway, what did Jack say?
Wow at the end i thought that the late and great Jim Morrison had came back from the grave and working for Hodinkee 😁
I was hoping he'd point at Rolex airking x Dominos collaboration, but the space jam was definitely a better point. 😂
I would like an unbiased opinion on the Sturmanskie Gagarin with a poljot movement.
Has there been a watch and whiskey collab??? I must know about this.
The answer to this question: About $5,000.
Haha sehr gut, but what really bugs me is the use of Ceramics on the cases in any form and irregular lug-spacing! :)
I spent most of this episode watching the changing plants.
I'd love to see a copy of these ww2 jet engine manuals
PILOT WATCHES should have a triangle at 12 instead of the number 12. Historically, pilot watches should be larger with disproportionately large crowns.
welcome to Not answering a single question!
Lol, the 'values of the watch brand'. I wonder if those are analogous to the values of the Carphone Warehouse...
Brand collaboration hmmm is that like what hodinkee did with the longines sector - look we’ve removed the numbers and cross hair wow
Odd width straps are there so that you go back and buy an official strap. Simple.
Marketing....
Pre commenting....
is best boy zack you son, jack?
The end. ZING!
Kudos weaving Star Trek lore into this. This is highly illogical, but I wonder if there is Spock watch that collectors seek?
You have two watches on.
Space Jam Watches 😂
Breitling *
The odd lug widths have nothing to do with "design choice". Its about the companies being able to only sell you their straps.
Design wise similar but Isnt Pilot watch bigger with an oversize crown? But I guess its bigger partly because of the faraday iron inner case and hey why are you wearing an apple watch 🤣
Easy answer,they are both worn by “tools”.
If you wear two watches at the same time you look like a WW2 soldier 🤷
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If I were more like this guy and less like me, I would have more and better options for sex.
“Has that plant always been there?” cringe… Stop trying not to be pretentious Hodinkee. It’s who you are! Embrace it!