One scenario I left out in the discussion is DJ sets, which would soak up that 2gig RAM pretty fast....BUT I feel like the MPC isn't specifically designed for this task. Thanks for stopping by 🙏
Pure sample based producers will never hit the limit. You don’t see an issue unless you use a lot of plugins and keygroups. I have hit the ram limit on 2GB MPCs with 5 tracks.
Exactly , people like me that know how to play and make the melodies that sound like the 60s and 70s . I make everything original because I sell beats and don’t want to pay a ton of money to clear copyrights 😂
I can't stand when people think their use case scenario is the ONLY scenario. Per your example, sometimes I just want to load some Fabric or Fabric XL plugins and create strictly via virtual instruments. 2GB won't allow one to go very far within that particular workflow. They should just make the memory upgradeable like the MPCs of old. That would solve everything.
I don't understand how the new tech work's . Once you have 5 track's where do you store them so you can do more track's ? I used to have an MMT8 sequencer that stored all the tracks and triggered the juno , sampler and synth .
@@pauljones4060 you can save all of your tracks in the MPC. It has an 8 audio track limit in standalone and an 8 MIDI track limit in standalone. There are workarounds to get many more tracks but you will have to watch your RAM and CPU. The MPC can trigger any MIDI instrument and sequence them. You won’t run out of RAM using MIDI signal tracks. It’s when you use the MIDI instrument tracks where you could see an issue.
You can also run into the limit when using the MPC for a live set. Unless you are prepared to stop playback and load a new project between songs, you need all the samples and all the plugins for the entire set loaded from the start. I know the MPC is better suited for production than for live, but with a few improvements (like the RAM) it could be great for that.
It could be a compelling alternative to travelling with a computer rig running Mainstage if they implemented disk streaming from SSD, and memory that is in keeping with computers from even a decade ago e.g. 8-16GB. Whoever comes to market with a synth module that offers that kind of functionality and sound quality will probably do well for themselves.
That's why you have the MPC live 4Gb RAM... This thing is for studio. The mistake everyone does is to think it is a portable device. The mpc live 2 without speakers and with 25 keys will probably fill the gap someday... 😉
@@peterkadarmusic9728 and battery 😉🫶... but it would have been even worse to transport it, already since it is quite big and obviously not light. In the studio you don't have the same needs and have a computer if necessary.
Great video and thanks for the useful information. I think the more important question is whether 2GB of RAM is too little for $900 in today's world because it's too little and hardly installed anywhere anymore. If someone buys an MPC and is promised that they can make music without a computer, then the buyer wants that device to behave like a computer. For 900 euros, you can buy a laptop, a MIDI controller, and a sound card, all of which have twice the performance of the MPC and much more space for samples without any compromises in terms of workflow or specifications. In any case, thanks for the video !
Bingo! Although having an MPC all in one somewhat mobile on the go tool has its perks as well. A all in one tool for a specific purpose is what you pay for
With a laptop you also get emails popping in... YT video suggestions... Tiktok alerts... the internet... and oh... what was I about to do? The MPC standalone keeps you undistracted.. that's a big selling point for standalone.
For anyone my age (61 this year) how I reminisce about my first hard disk recorder with a massive 230Mb hard drive or my Casio FZ1 sampler with a massive 8Mb of mono recording. It really is ridiculous these days to talk about not enough memory. If that is your problem, you're using the wrong piece of equipment. I love my AKAI MPC Key61 and my NI Komplete Kontrol setups.
Thank you for breaking down the system performance on the Key 37. I was damn near ready to pull the tigger on this. After watching your video. I’ll keep it to my LIVE II and MPK 32.
yeah, you aren't gaining much if you've already got the Live II, and you're gaining the speakers, battery, and ability of adding an SSD. I use mine while sitting on the couch all the time, love it.
People used to make entire albums in the 90s with 32mb/128mb samplers. The 2GB on MPC isn't as desirable as a PC, but it does have a discard unused memory function for cleaning up, and you really shouldn't be trying to use for chunky library stuff that is the preserve of Kontakt/Halion. Afaik the memory limitations are actually from the chipset that the Juce OS runs on, it comes in a 2GB or 4GB iteration and I guess Akai are trying to use up the stock of SoC's they bought. Maybe the next generation will open it up to 16GB or something. If you think you need more, either get the MPC X SE, or just run tethered full time (no limits), it's still a great box for a different writing paradigm from the DAW.
Dude I feel that, nothing impressed me more than seeing some of the file sizes of sample based AMIGA tracker sets. I'm a little too young to have had octatrack or its variants back in the day, but I respect that sh*t like you wouldn't believe.
For those who have not yet heard. Upcoming MPC 3.0 software adds audio streaming directly from mass media. I have not yet heard if the system also does record to disk or not. But this definitely helps situation with long audio tracks.
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As an alternative you can use MPC-Tutor's (the dude that wrote the MPC-Bible) sample packs that's been optimized to use less memory on the MPC & Force.
I agree about the need for a decent reverb. It doesn't necessarily need a lot of grunt - my favourite hardware reverb unit is still my humble Alesis Microverb III.
I hope Akai listens to you about the reverb because that’s actually one thing i believe is definitely MISSING in the MPC .the reverbs are almost useless
Akai should just make the physical memory upgradeable like the old 2500 and 4000s. That would solve all memory problems. Obviously there are use cases where individuals are running out of memory. Otherwise, this wouldn't be an issue for ANYONE. But like most people, and the person in this video, if it's not an issue FOR ME, then it's not an issue.
It is “enough” if you are interested in the classic use of MPCs: as a sampler. But one day Akai will learn (1) to make disk streaming a thing and (2) to make the cpu/ram/etc user upgradable. I get Akai is too unwilling to actually upgrade the computer side of their hardware as they have almost entirely been making cosmetic changes to the MPC line since the X but at least let us upgrade the hardware
It's kind of funny, the MPC is basically a Raspberry Pi in a fancy case. If you look at it from that point of view you can temper your expectations quite well. I have never run into an issue with any MPC, and despite pushing my Key 37 a little harder than I have any others it still seems like plenty of power. Akai and Air have done an absolutely legendary job at building plugins and tools for this that fit the meager physical system specs like a glove. These things are nothing short of engineering marvels.
Great Video! I wish someone would clear up the confusion about about the Mpc one, live, X, & Keys sounding bad. I personally used to own an mpc 60 2 & a 2000xl so I’m pretty much familiar with the old school sound. So many people are saying the new Mpc’s sound horrible. When I use them I just hear the raw unmixed sound that you can tweak when you mix down your tracks in your Daw. I use the new Mpc’s in standalone & controller mode. My question is if you export your stems inside the Mpc’s software in controller mode does it affect the sound quality in a bad way? My understanding is that the only conversion happening is when record through the A/D on the input and when you play back those stems through what ever D/A converter you use to monitor your audio with. So if you use a better quality audio interface / converter shouldn’t that improve the sound quality? I’m interested to know your thoughts on this?
Most of the MPC users online are not musicians. So I do find it difficult to layer a piano, strings, Ep and pads on my MPC live 2. We need more Ram, atleast 8gigs.
Lots of peeps in comments talking about sample memory. It's not about audio samples. Plugin instruments eat up the memory! 512mb would be a lot for samples! Akia entering the world of plugins changes the game.
It would be nice if it was possible to load 2 projects at the same time so that you could switch between them during a gig without the loading delay. Obviously that would use more memory space....
4 GB is almost not enough. Each inst, samples, projects takes the headroom. I've run out of memory several times. Poor memory management in the OS. I bought 2 MPC's and a Force.
They should at least make an upgrade option for people who do need it for whatever reason. I do collaborative sessions and like to load up A LOT of programs to access a wide variety of sounds on the fly. I constantly reach my memory limit and have to purge shit which sucks. If anything this workflow changed my whole perspective about working in traditional DAWs. Rather than being overly intentional about picking the right sounds, I like loading up a tons of sounds before even starting. Ideas come way quicker when you have quick access to a ton of sounds
When you are talking of RAM I guess you mean the DRAM installed on the board as apposed to physical storage; i.e. SSD?. What I would like to see is what plugins they come with out of the box for each MPC, so you can see the differences. Do you have to connect an MPC to the web before you can use it for making music?.
We upgrade our devices to get away from loading and lag issues. Akai literally gave out the bare minimum of 2GBs Ram on these units that have plug in instruments, compressors, delays channel strips, EQs etc. Fan of the products but they're wildin
Great explanation. I was hoping to use an MPC One for stem playback a whisker back but quickly realised it just didn't have the memory for it.a DFD option for larger samples would have been amazing, but alas this seems like a bridge to far for this current config.
For a minute I was making music on a little 'netbook'(remember those?!) running Linux, and would use the track freezing function to free up resources. I don't believe the MPC line has that as an actual function, but you could convert even a long passage from a plugin into a sample to accomplish the same goal, right? Edit: oh, yeah, you say that around 11:30 :)
I'm a bit confused about that multichannel audio recording use case - isn't MPC supposed to record that audio to "disk" (SSD, SD card or whatever it uses for storage) instead of keeping it in memory? Any DAW would do just that.
@@MathHammer it's so strange because this is such an easy to implement feature. So basically MPC Keys/One/Live keep all the assets of the current project in memory?
Can’t remember if true or not , wasn’t there a faster loading difference for plugins between the 2gb and 4gb also . Maybe you can check with your key 61
The gist of the matter is that 2 extra GB would not cost that much in production and therefore not much extra for buyers. But AKAI surely saves some things up for the pro or plus model coming.
When testing I got on a 2gig MPC: Studiostrings 31%, StagePiano 20%, StageEP 16%, FabricXL 15%, Fabric PIano 11%, Fabric EL 9%, Fabric 7%. Everything else seems to use around 1%.
My ONLY gripe with Akai is that i bought a Live and X classic, but have no path to hardware upgrades. There should be some sort of enhancement kit or upgradable RAM option for, at least, the X. I didn't realize how limited the MPC was until my DAW machine went down & i couldn't produce any in-depth music. I hope InMusic purchases Ujam next, & figure out how to integrate some incredible Guitar strum engines, effects, & factory processed samples kits.
12:35 - 12:45 … so, MPC 3.0 will bring Disk Streaming, right? Does this mean that the 2GB RAM limit will no longer be an issue with MPC 3.0?! For all purposes?!?! What will it still be a limitation on/problem for? 🤔🙏🏼
Hey I got a question,for anybody, on the MPC 37 I downloaded some trial plugins that have since expired but they still show up on my screen and I would like to get rid of those trial plug-in screen icons,... Do you know if there is a way to do that? Example I did the trial for jura and it has run out but you're still shows up on the MPC 37 screen, it's just annoying
I do know that the 8 plugin and 8 audio tracks limit can be bypassed, I have no idea how, but I do know it has been done on the force with considerably more of each instance. So with that in mind, it will almost certainly be able to be done on the MPC too.
Iv not got any of the paid plug ins just the 8 free ones so now im not fused about getting any iv got a voucher for a free one for registering the unit so im not gonna bother getting them ...
I feel like a lot of people are just afraid to commit to audio. Just get complacent with your audio and bounce to sample….name the sample the preset name if you mostly start from presets…or even save the state of the plug-in as a preset that you tweaked and do the same for the mixer inserts. Really it’ll be okay if you need to go back. Nuke the plug-in then purge. You even have a limit to how many “audio tracks “ you can use, but put those samples in a “drum pad” and turn on the note on option, turn on warp and span the pad in the piano roll. Now that limitation is not even a problem. Just don’t record a whole 3 minute marathon in the piano roll and do that. Think loops. Maybe I’m more disciplined coming from making music on under spec computers not being able to afford the recommended upgrades and working through my broke teenage years, but I’ve learned…If the buffers too high and the cpu is still crackling, or the animations and movement is not snappy anymore it’s time to make it audio and get rid of some stuff. Same concepts. You also have to accept something is done. When handed off it’s almost a 95% chance every track will become audio files anyway.
You put it better than I could have. Well said. Guessing within 5 years they'll upgrade all models to 16Gb RAM and all versions with SSD capabilities and people still be bitching that Akai hardware limitations be what keep them from making that big hit song.
I think the issues is how cheap ram is and Akai just not adding more ram. The difference is evident when loading Fabric XL and other intensive plugins. Any device after the MPC X SE should’ve had 4gb ram minimum. Truly I believe a sweet spot would be 6-12gb ram would give a ton of overhead that’ll allow much quicker load times and also allow for more audio tracks. But hey that’s coming next. Also they should definitely consider disk streaming to help with the low ram.
A lot was done with less in the past. But now they offer instruments plugins that are ram heavy. Ram is cheap these days. The logic board manufacturer they use has a higher end model for not much higher price.
i have an MPC its really annoying having such a limit, ots way less than 50m of samples if you use HQ audio files and no MP3s. Personal i cant understand why they didnt go got 8gb ram is so cheap.
These new MPC’s are underpowered. Are we really supposed to believe they are gonna be able to do standalone Stem separation in a reasonable amount of time?
Recording and looping, especially multiple channels, will chew up the RAM quickly. Disk streaming could solve this, but it is available only on the Force. I don't know why Akai hasn't implemented it on the MPC line.
I think Ram is enough, but it should have a slot for future use.. mpcs back in the day you put in how much you needed, that would be nice , but again what's in ít is enough, just work smart..
I use the SD card as my work space and an external HD for a sample library. Having said that the library is mostly junk I brought in the early days but never use because it's so much more fun to make samples rather than trawl through the library (it's even more muse-destroying than trawling ROMpler patches). As for Akai sample based instruments, I've not found them useful for my kind of music so I didn't install any more and that brings me back on topic as I haven't removed them because I've never run out of space!
Can music producers make a full length track with 2 Gig Ram : Yes But in 2024 2 Gig ram is not a professional look Standard benchmark today is 8 Gig for music production " for that price point " dont get me wrong i think its a great bit of kit and i have a MPC ONE my self And i do music alot on there but i do get to a point where i need more Ram Theres no point giving us 2 gig ram if we keep getting work flow obstacles . Im sure there are many people who would to see new production line with standard 8 gig ram , im not worried about harddrive space as you can purchase big memory cards today for super cheap
Same people who wine about 2 gigs of ram can care less about voice stealing and low bit rate on their fav grooveboxes. So 2 gigs is kinda scapegoat. It's a problem for sure but there's a lot of them on any other device like that that nobody want to talk about. And what i like about AKAI, they were pretty transparent about limitations, to the point where we have CPU load and plugins number limit right inside the box. This is at least respectable coz many other manufacturers let their device screech, steal all the voices and overheat just to NOT show the obvious CPU overload.
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Thanks. I appreciate the specific, real world examples you’ve provided. This unit has been on my wish list since I heard about it. As a photographer with an IT/computer support background, I’ve found the photographers online who are focused only on specs tend to be the photographers that rarely shoot and do mundane work. I’m not saying the people complaining about 2GB are only spec hunters that make boring music, but sometimes people obsess over fringe issues. 4GB would be nice and eliminate the few complaining, but some of this comes down to meeting the modest $899 price point, and some of the load times are more about processing speed, which is also a price point decision. I suspect that if this becomes a problem for some people that Akai will offer a RAM upgrade path. I bought the original Korg Wavestation in 1990. About a year later, they released the EX version, and offered to upgrade those with the original model.
@1:34 i love this question i come from the MPC 1000 where you only had 16mb as factory ram and upgradeable to 128mb which i later did and i thought it was amazing back then.but 2gb of ram is ridiculous and more than enough I’ve actually NEVER ran into ram issues wit my live 2.alot of us are jus spoilt nowadays
I came from the 1k/2500 & thought the same but keep in mind that everything gets sampled at 24 bits on the new MPCs which takes up more memory. Also once you load up your old beats on it & then try to take those samples you can't load them on your 1k anymore bc it has a 16 bit limit, so you'll need to convert them first. Still 2GB-700MB or whatever is still lot for most people. Finally the 1k didn't have plugins to deal with. I glad I started with the older MPCs first, it really makes me respect the Akai Force more than an Akai newbie coming from a DAW - You feel me?
@@Noise-Conductorabsolutely i get u and that something i wanted to mention but left out.Coming from 1k/2500 myself it makes me appreciate what mpcs have become now.alot of things their doin now i truly envisioned them even down to this very mpc key 37 i thot of that shit in 2003/2004
@@Noise-Conductor not gonna lie i cant anymore 😂🤣 all the visions i had have been fulfilled for now but audio to midi wont be long..giving that it has a tuner and can detect key of samples…
The ram point should be moot as it should be user upgradable which would allow akai and the user more freedom. It's just that simple. They limited the box and yes the 61 is nice but the is 13 kg These people are on a different planet.
2GB of RAM? Load any project with multiple of the same VST and samples. It’s not that it’s not enough. It’s that it’s obsolete compared to a laptop with Renoise
Which opens up the question of..... how in the blue hell is the standalone stem separation processing going to go when they release it? Is it going to be a strictly hardware operation? or will wifi need to be enabled for cloud processing? 🤔🤔
@@Noise-Conductor but stem processing takes a considerable amount of processing power of AI to produce the samples in a specific short amount of time. 2GB of ram is pretty ambitious....unless there is a cutoff capacity of sample length in the MPC
2GBs of RAM is nice. I appreciate that and it's way more than enough for drum samples. Now, I get that these newer MPCs come with plugins and Akai is selling premium plugins that require more RAM. However, I come from the era of older MPCs with far less RAM. As far as the premium software sampled instrument plugins, I would rather use other hardware synths and sequence them with the MPC via midi. So yeah, I'm fine with 2GBs of RAM. It's far better than only 128MB of RAM my MPC2500 I still and the MPC1000 I used to own. Also, in comparison to the first MPC I actually learned how to use, the MPC2000XL which tops out at only 32MBs of RAM, I'd consider the 2GBs of RAM offered by these newer entry-level MPCs a luxury. You have to remember, legendary beatmakers/producers were making countless hit records on an SP1200 which had a limit of maybe about 10 seconds of sample time.
@teftymusictech Akai is the Taco Bell of music gear. Repackaging the same old rice, beans, cheese, and meat and calling it something new. Sorry to be grumpy. I love your channel.
Yeah, that string sampled instrument didnt even sound nearly as good as anything from Kontakt, Stienberg or what ever. And I'm not even talking about the mega spendy ones either. This device seems to best suited for straight up drum programming, bass playing, sample choppin beat Makin', and then add all the more sophisticated melodic flourishes and elements in the computer. But still, thats a lwgit work flow as far as I'm concerned. I don't understand this whole need for a 100% DAWless set up, considering that before the mid 90s there was the ultimate DAWless setup called "reel to reel tape machines" that everyone wanted to get away from. And believe me, I would NEVER go back to that mess. DAWS rule, even if making beats in the MPC is fun and stuff
I understand the argument most people shouldn't used 2 gigs especially if you're used to using MPC's hell the 2000 had 16 megabytes and made most of the hits of that time along with the SP 1200 only having 12 seconds but being saved by the S 950 which was able to use one minute which was an eternity. However Akai has strategically done this for profit because in today's day and time the amount to put more gigs in the memory is minimal. The 37 has a great price point and I don't think no one would have minded paying an additional $50 at least 10 gigs of ram not that it's needed. To me the company is forcing people to buy the next model because we already see the plugins getting better and using more resources along with how the machine has to load up all the sound libraries. We are just being set up to buy another MPC in two years. It will be the MPC key 37 Xl or Se
You can actually max out the ram fully to the extent of the MPC crashing or freezing etc. with only one instrument. Try to sample any instrument/Synth with all the 88 notes and velocity layers and so on. It is possible and you might be able to save it. But when you want to load that instrument you might not be able to and if you can load it up all that ram will be used and the MPC will not be usable. Otherwise a lot of things can be done. But if you really really want to have high quality sampled instrument.... Try it out. Let's put it this way. For the little bedroom producer that never finishes any beat it is enough. For serious producers you will get to its limits pretty quickly and will need to bounce or connect to a computer. But funny enough everybody wants to be DAWless. To produce a full Song with all instruments effects vocals mixing and mastering the MPC is not good enough. It's just a scratch pad which will make your production more complicated in the long run because you will have to bounce and finish in the computer. Then will want to edit the sounds but they are bounced so not tweakable any more etc. etc. etc. Sooooo you will have to keep it ver simple. But let's be real here. Who of the people that owns these little MPCs are award winning or producers in the industry. And if some industry producers use them then always in conjunction with a lot more than just an MPC. In my opinion the MPC is a nice little musical toy that is just not good enough. But it can be fun for some minutes to hours. It could be something really great though. Maybe some day in the future.
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Tech house legend mrG keeps rocking entire venues with a mpc 2000xl and a mackie mixer. Do it like mrG. Also laptops became super thin and powerful enough to be taken along and give tons of ram and cores when the mpc is used as a controller. Hide the laptop away and you still get 100% of the mpc standalone experience and workflow
I like your videos man I been saying 2 gigs is not a limitation, but I think for people who work in the box if they made one powerful enough to do what you could do in the box standalone that would be amazing.
I have had the MPC live 2 since 2020 and the biggest problem I have with 2 gigs of RAM is how slow the search is when looking for sounds on my 2TB internal SSD drive. It's not fast enough to find sounds, load songs, or even start up or switch to a new song. I am always waiting for something to load which kills my workflow. On a PC when you search for something instantly finds it especially with 16-32GB of RAM. Would be nice to have 16BG I mean why not? Make it fast and more reliable, I would even pay more for that specifically.
Korg Nautilus uses 3GB RAM. It runs on a Linux like OS and most importantly it streams its patches, as well as samples, giving the impression that they load almost instantaneously. They're loaded in and out of memory on the fly. - This goes back years, to the Korg OASYS. For MPC, I believe streaming was in a recent update but only applies to samples from what I gather. Please correct me on ghis. Therefore, either you can only use one or two sound engines at a time OR you have to keep bumping tracks to samples, in order to use other sound engines.
"2 GiB RAM isn't enough", they say, right before buying a groovebox with 64 MiB RAM or less. I've seen it happen many times. Personally, I've never even gotten close to the RAM limit on my Akai, even when I use a lot of samples, large kits, and audio tracks. And if I did, I could just turn on disk streaming.
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One scenario I left out in the discussion is DJ sets, which would soak up that 2gig RAM pretty fast....BUT I feel like the MPC isn't specifically designed for this task. Thanks for stopping by 🙏
I think if you're a DJ, an MPC paired with an SP404mkII would be a way to go.
Killer combo!
This was not a fair project demo, an intense project with samples and multi tracks is better suited for a good comparison. Tiss tiss.
@@vjfxtheoryHe mention that.
@@universalvibe72 He did say there's enough RAM for "most" people & most people aren't MPC power users.
Pure sample based producers will never hit the limit. You don’t see an issue unless you use a lot of plugins and keygroups. I have hit the ram limit on 2GB MPCs with 5 tracks.
Exactly , people like me that know how to play and make the melodies that sound like the 60s and 70s . I make everything original because I sell beats and don’t want to pay a ton of money to clear copyrights 😂
I can't stand when people think their use case scenario is the ONLY scenario.
Per your example, sometimes I just want to load some Fabric or Fabric XL plugins and create strictly via virtual instruments.
2GB won't allow one to go very far within that particular workflow.
They should just make the memory upgradeable like the MPCs of old. That would solve everything.
@@coldskoolbeatz I have said that directly to Akai before.
I don't understand how the new tech work's . Once you have 5 track's where do you store them so you can do more track's ? I used to have an MMT8 sequencer that stored all the tracks and triggered the juno , sampler and synth .
@@pauljones4060 you can save all of your tracks in the MPC. It has an 8 audio track limit in standalone and an 8 MIDI track limit in standalone. There are workarounds to get many more tracks but you will have to watch your RAM and CPU. The MPC can trigger any MIDI instrument and sequence them. You won’t run out of RAM using MIDI signal tracks. It’s when you use the MIDI instrument tracks where you could see an issue.
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You can also run into the limit when using the MPC for a live set. Unless you are prepared to stop playback and load a new project between songs, you need all the samples and all the plugins for the entire set loaded from the start. I know the MPC is better suited for production than for live, but with a few improvements (like the RAM) it could be great for that.
It could be a compelling alternative to travelling with a computer rig running Mainstage if they implemented disk streaming from SSD, and memory that is in keeping with computers from even a decade ago e.g. 8-16GB. Whoever comes to market with a synth module that offers that kind of functionality and sound quality will probably do well for themselves.
That's why you have the MPC live 4Gb RAM...
This thing is for studio. The mistake everyone does is to think it is a portable device. The mpc live 2 without speakers and with 25 keys will probably fill the gap someday... 😉
@@danielbarbieri8199Yeah hopefully. For me, I would have paid a few bucks more to get the SSD bay and the extra RAM capacity.
@@peterkadarmusic9728 and battery 😉🫶...
but it would have been even worse to transport it, already since it is quite big and obviously not light. In the studio you don't have the same needs and have a computer if necessary.
@@danielbarbieri8199 Which Live has 4GB of RAM?🤔 It's certainly NOT the Live or Live 2.
Great channel! When I was a lad, we were happy with an Akai S1000 upgraded to 16 meg. :-)
PJ Ladd 🔥
This was helpful. Its cool that you used MPC-Tutor's info. Akai never show him no love, even tho he wrote the MPC-Bible. Peace 👍🏾
big up, tutor. total mpc legend
@@samsicles_jr If you know, you know!
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Great video and thanks for the useful information. I think the more important question is whether 2GB of RAM is too little for $900 in today's world because it's too little and hardly installed anywhere anymore. If someone buys an MPC and is promised that they can make music without a computer, then the buyer wants that device to behave like a computer. For 900 euros, you can buy a laptop, a MIDI controller, and a sound card, all of which have twice the performance of the MPC and much more space for samples without any compromises in terms of workflow or specifications. In any case, thanks for the video !
i agree ....and they should put in topquality preamps and guitar effects so that you can just plug n play directly and get pro results
💯 agreed. personally i think AKAI just is a toy.. I used AKAI 6000, like 20 years ago. But now a I9, M.2, 64Gig ram is a must for me to have now..
Bingo! Although having an MPC all in one somewhat mobile on the go tool has its perks as well. A all in one tool for a specific purpose is what you pay for
With a laptop you also get emails popping in... YT video suggestions... Tiktok alerts... the internet... and oh... what was I about to do? The MPC standalone keeps you undistracted.. that's a big selling point for standalone.
Just cut the Internet off until you need it? @@keithmurray9241
For anyone my age (61 this year) how I reminisce about my first hard disk recorder with a massive 230Mb hard drive or my Casio FZ1 sampler with a massive 8Mb of mono recording. It really is ridiculous these days to talk about not enough memory. If that is your problem, you're using the wrong piece of equipment. I love my AKAI MPC Key61 and my NI Komplete Kontrol setups.
Thank you for breaking down the system performance on the Key 37. I was damn near ready to pull the tigger on this. After watching your video. I’ll keep it to my LIVE II and MPK 32.
yeah, you aren't gaining much if you've already got the Live II, and you're gaining the speakers, battery, and ability of adding an SSD. I use mine while sitting on the couch all the time, love it.
People used to make entire albums in the 90s with 32mb/128mb samplers. The 2GB on MPC isn't as desirable as a PC, but it does have a discard unused memory function for cleaning up, and you really shouldn't be trying to use for chunky library stuff that is the preserve of Kontakt/Halion. Afaik the memory limitations are actually from the chipset that the Juce OS runs on, it comes in a 2GB or 4GB iteration and I guess Akai are trying to use up the stock of SoC's they bought. Maybe the next generation will open it up to 16GB or something. If you think you need more, either get the MPC X SE, or just run tethered full time (no limits), it's still a great box for a different writing paradigm from the DAW.
I used to play at raves in the UK , my workstation had a 16 second sample time and that felt epic back then .
As someone who used to get his entire 1 hour live set stuffed into 10mb (thats MEGABYTE...with an M) on an E-mu rack sampler...yes. 2GB is plenty.
I remember getting my first 'zip drive' and being blown away by 128mb discs 😆
@@teftymusictechI still use an external zip drive with my MPC 2000. 😁
@@thetruemrstallings I don’t trust Zip disks anymore. I use bluescsi with my old scsi samplers.
Dude I feel that, nothing impressed me more than seeing some of the file sizes of sample based AMIGA tracker sets. I'm a little too young to have had octatrack or its variants back in the day, but I respect that sh*t like you wouldn't believe.
So I guess when the 250 MB came out you were over the moon lol@@teftymusictech
For those who have not yet heard. Upcoming MPC 3.0 software adds audio streaming directly from mass media. I have not yet heard if the system also does record to disk or not. But this definitely helps situation with long audio tracks.
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As an alternative you can use MPC-Tutor's (the dude that wrote the MPC-Bible) sample packs that's been optimized to use less memory on the MPC & Force.
I agree about the need for a decent reverb. It doesn't necessarily need a lot of grunt - my favourite hardware reverb unit is still my humble Alesis Microverb III.
I agree a pro level reverb is needed. However I also want it to be very powerful with a lot of user control.
I hope Akai listens to you about the reverb because that’s actually one thing i believe is definitely MISSING in the MPC .the reverbs are almost useless
Akai should just make the physical memory upgradeable like the old 2500 and 4000s.
That would solve all memory problems.
Obviously there are use cases where individuals are running out of memory. Otherwise, this wouldn't be an issue for ANYONE.
But like most people, and the person in this video, if it's not an issue FOR ME, then it's not an issue.
Thanks for the vid some folks just wanna complain. Great vid.
it's a valid complain though.
I just bought key 61 because of RAM shortage. My usage of plugins are heavy.
Did they say the same thing. If the mpc x se had more memory, would have sprung for that. 16gb would be more realistic in the world of plugins.
That loading time for the piano is a no go though.
have you ever loaded a Kontakt library?
This was really useful information. Thanks!
It is “enough” if you are interested in the classic use of MPCs: as a sampler.
But one day Akai will learn (1) to make disk streaming a thing and (2) to make the cpu/ram/etc user upgradable. I get Akai is too unwilling to actually upgrade the computer side of their hardware as they have almost entirely been making cosmetic changes to the MPC line since the X but at least let us upgrade the hardware
It's kind of funny, the MPC is basically a Raspberry Pi in a fancy case. If you look at it from that point of view you can temper your expectations quite well. I have never run into an issue with any MPC, and despite pushing my Key 37 a little harder than I have any others it still seems like plenty of power. Akai and Air have done an absolutely legendary job at building plugins and tools for this that fit the meager physical system specs like a glove. These things are nothing short of engineering marvels.
Great Video! I wish someone would clear up the confusion about about the Mpc one, live, X, & Keys sounding bad.
I personally used to own an mpc 60 2 & a 2000xl so I’m pretty much familiar with the old school sound. So many people are saying the new Mpc’s sound horrible. When I use them I just hear the raw unmixed sound that you can tweak when you mix down your tracks in your Daw. I use the new Mpc’s in standalone & controller mode. My question is if you export your stems inside the Mpc’s software in controller mode does it affect the sound quality in a bad way? My understanding is that the only conversion happening is when record through the A/D on the input and when you play back those stems through what ever
D/A converter you use to monitor your audio with. So if you use a better quality audio interface / converter shouldn’t that improve the sound quality? I’m interested to know your thoughts on this?
Most of the MPC users online are not musicians. So I do find it difficult to layer a piano, strings, Ep and pads on my MPC live 2. We need more Ram, atleast 8gigs.
Lots of peeps in comments talking about sample memory. It's not about audio samples. Plugin instruments eat up the memory! 512mb would be a lot for samples! Akia entering the world of plugins changes the game.
With my SP404sx in tow I can have 24 hours of continuous audio. So this could fill the gaps between MPC sequencing when live.
It would be nice if it was possible to load 2 projects at the same time so that you could switch between them during a gig without the loading delay. Obviously that would use more memory space....
I find the akai s5000 can hold more than mpc 1 black
And has less less ram
Why is that
4 GB is almost not enough. Each inst, samples, projects takes the headroom. I've run out of memory several times. Poor memory management in the OS.
I bought 2 MPC's and a Force.
Ask yourself: how many hardware samplers other than MPC actually offer more than 2 GB RAM?
They should at least make an upgrade option for people who do need it for whatever reason. I do collaborative sessions and like to load up A LOT of programs to access a wide variety of sounds on the fly. I constantly reach my memory limit and have to purge shit which sucks. If anything this workflow changed my whole perspective about working in traditional DAWs. Rather than being overly intentional about picking the right sounds, I like loading up a tons of sounds before even starting. Ideas come way quicker when you have quick access to a ton of sounds
This was very helpful, thank you.
When you are talking of RAM I guess you mean the DRAM installed on the board as apposed to physical storage; i.e. SSD?. What I would like to see is what plugins they come with out of the box for each MPC, so you can see the differences. Do you have to connect an MPC to the web before you can use it for making music?.
We upgrade our devices to get away from loading and lag issues.
Akai literally gave out the bare minimum of 2GBs Ram on these units that have plug in instruments, compressors, delays channel strips, EQs etc. Fan of the products but they're wildin
Great explanation. I was hoping to use an MPC One for stem playback a whisker back but quickly realised it just didn't have the memory for it.a DFD option for larger samples would have been amazing, but alas this seems like a bridge to far for this current config.
In the old days we had a floppy drive and 1 meg (not 1 gig) on a synclavier as a upgrade would cost £28,000 LOL
For a minute I was making music on a little 'netbook'(remember those?!) running Linux, and would use the track freezing function to free up resources. I don't believe the MPC line has that as an actual function, but you could convert even a long passage from a plugin into a sample to accomplish the same goal, right?
Edit: oh, yeah, you say that around 11:30 :)
I'm a bit confused about that multichannel audio recording use case - isn't MPC supposed to record that audio to "disk" (SSD, SD card or whatever it uses for storage) instead of keeping it in memory? Any DAW would do just that.
If it is the Force then yes. If it is a MPC, then no due to no disk streaming.
@@MathHammer it's so strange because this is such an easy to implement feature. So basically MPC Keys/One/Live keep all the assets of the current project in memory?
Can’t remember if true or not , wasn’t there a faster loading difference for plugins between the 2gb and 4gb also . Maybe you can check with your key 61
The gist of the matter is that 2 extra GB would not cost that much in production and therefore not much extra for buyers. But AKAI surely saves some things up for the pro or plus model coming.
When testing I got on a 2gig MPC:
Studiostrings 31%, StagePiano 20%, StageEP 16%, FabricXL 15%, Fabric PIano 11%, Fabric EL 9%, Fabric 7%. Everything else seems to use around 1%.
My ONLY gripe with Akai is that i bought a Live and X classic, but have no path to hardware upgrades. There should be some sort of enhancement kit or upgradable RAM option for, at least, the X. I didn't realize how limited the MPC was until my DAW machine went down & i couldn't produce any in-depth music. I hope InMusic purchases Ujam next, & figure out how to integrate some incredible Guitar strum engines, effects, & factory processed samples kits.
it should at least have 4gigs or 8gigs
As long you don't use 3 piano keygroup with 4 velocity layers each... Your fine
12:35 - 12:45 … so, MPC 3.0 will bring Disk Streaming, right? Does this mean that the 2GB RAM limit will no longer be an issue with MPC 3.0?! For all purposes?!?! What will it still be a limitation on/problem for? 🤔🙏🏼
mpc2xl 32mb Stereo - 189 secs Mono - 4:00 mins never had a problem with samples NEVER!
Hey I got a question,for anybody, on the MPC 37 I downloaded some trial plugins that have since expired but they still show up on my screen and I would like to get rid of those trial plug-in screen icons,... Do you know if there is a way to do that? Example I did the trial for jura and it has run out but you're still shows up on the MPC 37 screen, it's just annoying
I rather have more than I need than not enough. I wish we could upgrade the ram.
i own the mpc x so do you think you have more possibilities with my mpc than the mpc 37?
I do know that the 8 plugin and 8 audio tracks limit can be bypassed, I have no idea how, but I do know it has been done on the force with considerably more of each instance. So with that in mind, it will almost certainly be able to be done on the MPC too.
think if you use it controller mode you can have more audio tracks and maybe more plug in tracks too. could be wrong
For my work flow the only bAd is the sloooow time it takes for samples to load🤦♂️
Iv not got any of the paid plug ins just the 8 free ones so now im not fused about getting any iv got a voucher for a free one for registering the unit so im not gonna bother getting them ...
I feel like a lot of people are just afraid to commit to audio. Just get complacent with your audio and bounce to sample….name the sample the preset name if you mostly start from presets…or even save the state of the plug-in as a preset that you tweaked and do the same for the mixer inserts. Really it’ll be okay if you need to go back. Nuke the plug-in then purge. You even have a limit to how many “audio tracks “ you can use, but put those samples in a “drum pad” and turn on the note on option, turn on warp and span the pad in the piano roll. Now that limitation is not even a problem. Just don’t record a whole 3 minute marathon in the piano roll and do that. Think loops.
Maybe I’m more disciplined coming from making music on under spec computers not being able to afford the recommended upgrades and working through my broke teenage years, but I’ve learned…If the buffers too high and the cpu is still crackling, or the animations and movement is not snappy anymore it’s time to make it audio and get rid of some stuff. Same concepts. You also have to accept something is done. When handed off it’s almost a 95% chance every track will become audio files anyway.
You put it better than I could have. Well said. Guessing within 5 years they'll upgrade all models to 16Gb RAM and all versions with SSD capabilities and people still be bitching that Akai hardware limitations be what keep them from making that big hit song.
I wonder if the disk streaming is coming to mpc ever it's been on Force for a while now, maybe the hardware can't handle it.
I think the issues is how cheap ram is and Akai just not adding more ram. The difference is evident when loading Fabric XL and other intensive plugins. Any device after the MPC X SE should’ve had 4gb ram minimum. Truly I believe a sweet spot would be 6-12gb ram would give a ton of overhead that’ll allow much quicker load times and also allow for more audio tracks. But hey that’s coming next. Also they should definitely consider disk streaming to help with the low ram.
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A lot was done with less in the past. But now they offer instruments plugins that are ram heavy. Ram is cheap these days. The logic board manufacturer they use has a higher end model for not much higher price.
i have an MPC its really annoying having such a limit, ots way less than 50m of samples if you use HQ audio files and no MP3s.
Personal i cant understand why they didnt go got 8gb ram is so cheap.
These new MPC’s are underpowered. Are we really supposed to believe they are gonna be able to do standalone Stem separation in a reasonable amount of time?
Recording and looping, especially multiple channels, will chew up the RAM quickly. Disk streaming could solve this, but it is available only on the Force. I don't know why Akai hasn't implemented it on the MPC line.
So...how do you perform live without having to load each song one at a time?
The music was a bit quiet in relation to your voice, but great explanation
I think Ram is enough, but it should have a slot for future use.. mpcs back in the day you put in how much you needed, that would be nice , but again what's in ít is enough, just work smart..
I use the SD card as my work space and an external HD for a sample library. Having said that the library is mostly junk I brought in the early days but never use because it's so much more fun to make samples rather than trawl through the library (it's even more muse-destroying than trawling ROMpler patches).
As for Akai sample based instruments, I've not found them useful for my kind of music so I didn't install any more and that brings me back on topic as I haven't removed them because I've never run out of space!
I still have samplers that use floppies, 2 gigs is a fuck ton
Can music producers make a full length track with 2 Gig Ram : Yes
But in 2024 2 Gig ram is not a professional look
Standard benchmark today is 8 Gig for music production " for that price point "
dont get me wrong i think its a great bit of kit and i have a MPC ONE my self
And i do music alot on there but i do get to a point where i need more Ram
Theres no point giving us 2 gig ram if we keep getting work flow obstacles .
Im sure there are many people who would to see new production line with standard 8 gig ram , im not worried about harddrive space as you can purchase big memory cards today for super cheap
Can anyone recommend a video demonstrating how to synch one or more pocket operators to an MPC?
Same people who wine about 2 gigs of ram can care less about voice stealing and low bit rate on their fav grooveboxes. So 2 gigs is kinda scapegoat. It's a problem for sure but there's a lot of them on any other device like that that nobody want to talk about.
And what i like about AKAI, they were pretty transparent about limitations, to the point where we have CPU load and plugins number limit right inside the box. This is at least respectable coz many other manufacturers let their device screech, steal all the voices and overheat just to NOT show the obvious CPU overload.
We just want to roll with the flow….without a proper freeze and unfreeze function, 2gb limits the production flow for those who dont sample heavy
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This is important
I'm mostly worried about the updates and plugins that is gonna take up
Thanks. I appreciate the specific, real world examples you’ve provided. This unit has been on my wish list since I heard about it. As a photographer with an IT/computer support background, I’ve found the photographers online who are focused only on specs tend to be the photographers that rarely shoot and do mundane work. I’m not saying the people complaining about 2GB are only spec hunters that make boring music, but sometimes people obsess over fringe issues. 4GB would be nice and eliminate the few complaining, but some of this comes down to meeting the modest $899 price point, and some of the load times are more about processing speed, which is also a price point decision. I suspect that if this becomes a problem for some people that Akai will offer a RAM upgrade path. I bought the original Korg Wavestation in 1990. About a year later, they released the EX version, and offered to upgrade those with the original model.
Remember people did more with less….but that’s when it was only an os and not a DAW
I hit the max on all beats i make. Samples are only a part of my beats.
@1:34 i love this question i come from the MPC 1000 where you only had 16mb as factory ram and upgradeable to 128mb which i later did and i thought it was amazing back then.but 2gb of ram is ridiculous and more than enough I’ve actually NEVER ran into ram issues wit my live 2.alot of us are jus spoilt nowadays
I came from the 1k/2500 & thought the same but keep in mind that everything gets sampled at 24 bits on the new MPCs which takes up more memory. Also once you load up your old beats on it & then try to take those samples you can't load them on your 1k anymore bc it has a 16 bit limit, so you'll need to convert them first. Still 2GB-700MB or whatever is still lot for most people. Finally the 1k didn't have plugins to deal with. I glad I started with the older MPCs first, it really makes me respect the Akai Force more than an Akai newbie coming from a DAW - You feel me?
@@Noise-Conductorabsolutely i get u and that something i wanted to mention but left out.Coming from 1k/2500 myself it makes me appreciate what mpcs have become now.alot of things their doin now i truly envisioned them even down to this very mpc key 37 i thot of that shit in 2003/2004
@BeatsByGemsmiff Well damn dude, now I gotta ask you what you envision for the next 20 years?
@@Noise-Conductor not gonna lie i cant anymore 😂🤣 all the visions i had have been fulfilled for now but audio to midi wont be long..giving that it has a tuner and can detect key of samples…
The ram point should be moot as it should be user upgradable which would allow akai and the user more freedom. It's just that simple. They limited the box and yes the 61 is nice but the is 13 kg These people are on a different planet.
When you literally uses all 8 plugins, plus multi samples and audio tracks, you will need the extra ram. That’s how I record..old school.
2GB of RAM?
Load any project with multiple of the same VST and samples.
It’s not that it’s not enough. It’s that it’s obsolete compared to a laptop with Renoise
Which opens up the question of..... how in the blue hell is the standalone stem separation processing going to go when they release it? Is it going to be a strictly hardware operation? or will wifi need to be enabled for cloud processing? 🤔🤔
It mostly just use up a bunch of power while it doing its thing but afterwards it just like a normal sample.
@@Noise-Conductor but stem processing takes a considerable amount of processing power of AI to produce the samples in a specific short amount of time. 2GB of ram is pretty ambitious....unless there is a cutoff capacity of sample length in the MPC
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2GBs of RAM is nice. I appreciate that and it's way more than enough for drum samples. Now, I get that these newer MPCs come with plugins and Akai is selling premium plugins that require more RAM. However, I come from the era of older MPCs with far less RAM. As far as the premium software sampled instrument plugins, I would rather use other hardware synths and sequence them with the MPC via midi. So yeah, I'm fine with 2GBs of RAM. It's far better than only 128MB of RAM my MPC2500 I still and the MPC1000 I used to own. Also, in comparison to the first MPC I actually learned how to use, the MPC2000XL which tops out at only 32MBs of RAM, I'd consider the 2GBs of RAM offered by these newer entry-level MPCs a luxury.
You have to remember, legendary beatmakers/producers were making countless hit records on an SP1200 which had a limit of maybe about 10 seconds of sample time.
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Ram memory is dirt cheap these days!
There is little RAM
@teftymusictech Akai is the Taco Bell of music gear. Repackaging the same old rice, beans, cheese, and meat and calling it something new. Sorry to be grumpy. I love your channel.
Yeah, that string sampled instrument didnt even sound nearly as good as anything from Kontakt, Stienberg or what ever. And I'm not even talking about the mega spendy ones either. This device seems to best suited for straight up drum programming, bass playing, sample choppin beat Makin', and then add all the more sophisticated melodic flourishes and elements in the computer. But still, thats a lwgit work flow as far as I'm concerned. I don't understand this whole need for a 100% DAWless set up, considering that before the mid 90s there was the ultimate DAWless setup called "reel to reel tape machines" that everyone wanted to get away from. And believe me, I would NEVER go back to that mess. DAWS rule, even if making beats in the MPC is fun and stuff
I understand the argument most people shouldn't used 2 gigs especially if you're used to using MPC's hell the 2000 had 16 megabytes and made most of the hits of that time along with the SP 1200 only having 12 seconds but being saved by the S 950 which was able to use one minute which was an eternity. However Akai has strategically done this for profit because in today's day and time the amount to put more gigs in the memory is minimal. The 37 has a great price point and I don't think no one would have minded paying an additional $50 at least 10 gigs of ram not that it's needed. To me the company is forcing people to buy the next model because we already see the plugins getting better and using more resources along with how the machine has to load up all the sound libraries. We are just being set up to buy another MPC in two years. It will be the MPC key 37 Xl or Se
Yes i do absolutely more than 54 minuts just on mt drum and loop instruments presets..lol thsr why I always need a I9 64gig ram PC
In 2024 2gb it's a joke
2gb is just outdated and a stupid design decision. akai wants to sell their plugins, right?
You can actually max out the ram fully to the extent of the MPC crashing or freezing etc. with only one instrument. Try to sample any instrument/Synth with all the 88 notes and velocity layers and so on. It is possible and you might be able to save it. But when you want to load that instrument you might not be able to and if you can load it up all that ram will be used and the MPC will not be usable. Otherwise a lot of things can be done. But if you really really want to have high quality sampled instrument.... Try it out. Let's put it this way. For the little bedroom producer that never finishes any beat it is enough. For serious producers you will get to its limits pretty quickly and will need to bounce or connect to a computer. But funny enough everybody wants to be DAWless. To produce a full Song with all instruments effects vocals mixing and mastering the MPC is not good enough. It's just a scratch pad which will make your production more complicated in the long run because you will have to bounce and finish in the computer. Then will want to edit the sounds but they are bounced so not tweakable any more etc. etc. etc. Sooooo you will have to keep it ver simple. But let's be real here. Who of the people that owns these little MPCs are award winning or producers in the industry. And if some industry producers use them then always in conjunction with a lot more than just an MPC. In my opinion the MPC is a nice little musical toy that is just not good enough. But it can be fun for some minutes to hours. It could be something really great though. Maybe some day in the future.
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Tech house legend mrG keeps rocking entire venues with a mpc 2000xl and a mackie mixer. Do it like mrG.
Also laptops became super thin and powerful enough to be taken along and give tons of ram and cores when the mpc is used as a controller. Hide the laptop away and you still get 100% of the mpc standalone experience and workflow
I like your videos man I been saying 2 gigs is not a limitation, but I think for people who work in the box if they made one powerful enough to do what you could do in the box standalone that would be amazing.
I have had the MPC live 2 since 2020 and the biggest problem I have with 2 gigs of RAM is how slow the search is when looking for sounds on my 2TB internal SSD drive. It's not fast enough to find sounds, load songs, or even start up or switch to a new song. I am always waiting for something to load which kills my workflow. On a PC when you search for something instantly finds it especially with 16-32GB of RAM. Would be nice to have 16BG I mean why not? Make it fast and more reliable, I would even pay more for that specifically.
Korg Nautilus uses 3GB RAM. It runs on a Linux like OS and most importantly it streams its patches, as well as samples, giving the impression that they load almost instantaneously. They're loaded in and out of memory on the fly. - This goes back years, to the Korg OASYS. For MPC, I believe streaming was in a recent update but only applies to samples from what I gather. Please correct me on ghis. Therefore, either you can only use one or two sound engines at a time OR you have to keep bumping tracks to samples, in order to use other sound engines.
"2 GiB RAM isn't enough", they say, right before buying a groovebox with 64 MiB RAM or less. I've seen it happen many times.
Personally, I've never even gotten close to the RAM limit on my Akai, even when I use a lot of samples, large kits, and audio tracks. And if I did, I could just turn on disk streaming.