The Best and Worst Mousepads I've Tried

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  • @YEAHMAP
    @YEAHMAP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +914

    Just love how he is talking so passionate about mouse pads for almost 13 min straight!

    • @estebano23
      @estebano23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would never imagined you being here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 👍

    • @estebano23
      @estebano23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Tube You He uploads videos about racing game fails and things like that

    • @midwestmenace9636
      @midwestmenace9636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dude Optimum Tech lives up to his name! So much detail in his reviews. Really wish the artisan pads came in a desk size pad. OCD is a real issue for me so I like the keyboard to be on the pad too. Just a nice level playing field for both of my palms to rest on XD.

    • @SharikhKhan138
      @SharikhKhan138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can’t wait for your Forza Horizon 5 videos…
      Unless they’re already out, then I’m just an idiot.

    • @estebano23
      @estebano23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SharikhKhan138 Not yet, but there is a preview that some people (popular youtubers I think) got

  • @rustinpeace7466
    @rustinpeace7466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1216

    I didn't realize mousepads were a hot subject *brings out 10 of his pads*.

    • @jeffreywalters3024
      @jeffreywalters3024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      First comment

    • @EssillusionsUHD
      @EssillusionsUHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      And alot of hi end pads at that😂 good shit though!

    • @MrBOOM546
      @MrBOOM546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I intentionally tell myself ive found my endgame pad to not get lost in the mousepad wormhole

    • @BooGiMayn71
      @BooGiMayn71 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol true

  • @NoHope_
    @NoHope_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    so I've used a variation of the Hein for quite some time, started with the soft in siege, and went to a mid in apex, as my aim has gotten better and I personally have matured I find the pad too fast, so I went out and bought a zowie gsrse (the current one, didn't go for the insanely popular and expensive 2017) and the way you described the gsr is how I feel about the sr se, I feel stuck. with my Hein its like I don't have to even think about tracking when my hand just does it for me, but I still find it too fast for anything needing the slightest bit of control, I looked at the zero because I have heard such great things but its never in stock, would the otsu be a good choice or should I wait for the zero to come back in stock?

  • @Mefju23
    @Mefju23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    I'd also highly recommend corsair mm250. From my experience this is a high control pad with a lot of stopping power, a bit faster than Zowie GSR, but doesnt have humidity (and/or sweat) problems. I've been using it for a year or so and it's been excellent!

    • @smokeholm1925
      @smokeholm1925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      i second this, but mm350

    • @Mefju23
      @Mefju23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@smokeholm1925 how does 350 differ from 250?

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Mefju23 it's bigger duh

    • @m4r0ne54
      @m4r0ne54 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I have an mm300 and its so smooth!

    • @smokeholm1925
      @smokeholm1925 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mefju23 it has stitched edges, and its bigger (qck+ size)

  • @igor.lacerda
    @igor.lacerda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +879

    Well, it's great to see the differences with the experience of use not just specs, and since it's impossible to get some of them it makes this video a little more aprrenciated. Cheers! 🤘⚡

    • @TheGabrielfaro
      @TheGabrielfaro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saudações 🇧🇷

    • @TosemKIT
      @TosemKIT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saudações br

    • @purplrblx3814
      @purplrblx3814 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      nigga its a mouspad what specs

    • @d4m14o8
      @d4m14o8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      voce aqui?

    • @lucutes2936
      @lucutes2936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      wat

  • @Mikee013
    @Mikee013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    Something to consider is if the mousepad is affected by humidity! Artisan mousepads are not affected by humidity unlike the logitech and the zowie. This is big for people who don't play inside an air controlled room at all times because it will feel inconsistent in different environments (in a room without ac or in a room with ac). Some pads get super muddy in hot environments and if you take gaming serious this is something you should consider.

    • @nachosNipples
      @nachosNipples ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thank you for pointing that out, midwest considerations

    • @geraldct46803
      @geraldct46803 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah , my qck started getting muddy after 2 months of usage XD

    • @LagartoChicloso
      @LagartoChicloso 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@geraldct46803 i had my g640 for 4 years, today i got a hien soft, way better

    • @TheMasterTMTheMaster1507
      @TheMasterTMTheMaster1507 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@geraldct46803same dude I was tripping over it so hard I changed my skates and it felt worse

  • @guille92h
    @guille92h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Interesting video didn't know there was a difference on stopping power on mousepads. Thanks for the vid.

  • @Loak3
    @Loak3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    4:35 Zowie G-sr
    5:50 Artisan Zero
    8:15 Artisan Hayate Otsu
    9:20 Artisan Hien

  • @MrAshleyt123
    @MrAshleyt123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    00:00 Intro
    01:19 Disclaimer
    01:36 Logitech G640
    03:23 Glorious (Fire/Ice/Air)
    04:30 BenQ Zowie GSR
    05:58 Artisan Mouse Pads
    06:28 Artisan Hardness
    07:38 Mousepad Cleaning
    08:16 Artisan Hayate Otsu XL
    09:06 Artisan Hien XL
    09:57 Razer
    10:59 Recommendations

  • @selohcin
    @selohcin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Shout-out to this man for actually going over mice and mousepads. No one else does that! You're the man!

  • @Definitely_Melnyx
    @Definitely_Melnyx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is the video I didn’t know I needed so much. Thanks

  • @MeStazz
    @MeStazz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    what a clutch timing literally been looking for mousepads the past 2days

  • @Drinkyoghurt
    @Drinkyoghurt ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Old video, but my tip for cleaning a mousepad is simple (but requires you to have a backup). I have a desk pad which gets nasty over time since I do eat at my desk as well as have dandruff which clogs it up over time. Just put your pad in your tub and soak it, then use some dish soap and the soft side of a sponge to clean it. Rinse and repeat 2~3x times until it washes out clean. Rack dry it for a day. After that you pretty much have a brand new pad both in look and feel.

  • @Tim_Tam
    @Tim_Tam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +788

    It'd be amazing if you ever made a video trying the LTT mousepad, considering they made a video on the many hoops they jumped through to get it done to their standard, so I wonder how it'd compare to the tried and tested mousepads.

    • @David-ee7ws
      @David-ee7ws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same

    • @3ericw
      @3ericw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Boardzy has a review of it. He also reviews all the artisan pads among others

    • @whoisthatthingwhat
      @whoisthatthingwhat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      its dogshit, every mousepad does what theres did. did you know my 2010 mouse is 100% accurate omg!?!?! but guess what its 230g, wired, and creaking

    • @louisgarbour2737
      @louisgarbour2737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@3ericwfrom what I have heard, his opinions seem to be considered controversial

    • @iamkestrel
      @iamkestrel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      @@whoisthatthingwhat cringe

  • @ded__
    @ded__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Dude got buff from just hittin dem flicks

  • @ON1C
    @ON1C 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the qck?

  • @zobilamouche420
    @zobilamouche420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've been using the same QCK+ for 7 years, it's still alive and working well :D

  • @idk-tw2hb
    @idk-tw2hb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    THIS IS SO CLUTCH I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR A MOUSE PAD THANKYOU SO MUCH!!!

  • @imbanett0
    @imbanett0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Totally agree with the opinion on Hien and Hayate Otsu. I enjoyed it so much when use it for COD and Battlefield esp trying to play as "rush sniper". I am no where near pro, but definitely can feel with the precision, every quick swipe headshot is so satisfying.

  • @kwinsch7423
    @kwinsch7423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for your objective comments about mousepads. One suggestion for a video I would like to see: Talk a little bit about your desk! Things like optimal size, height, etc. Is for sure individual, but still, if you play with an XL mousepad, then there needs to be an adequate big surface somewhere. For exact that reason, I play with an M size pad and higher mouse sensitivity. Do not have a bigger desk ;-)

  • @gigazelensky
    @gigazelensky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    *me using my wooden table*

    • @0-0MaverickV
      @0-0MaverickV 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      🗿

    • @stitchyrichie
      @stitchyrichie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Same

    • @Penguinizerrr
      @Penguinizerrr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Using a book 🗿

    • @mackglow
      @mackglow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I’m using a tray of eggs

    • @gigazelensky
      @gigazelensky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@mackglow that's on another level

  • @ed_samoy
    @ed_samoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Reviewing and recommending this much mousepads based on pure personal experience is not a easy thing to accomplish, that's pure content creation and I love it.

  • @erikbs735
    @erikbs735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    @8:52
    "Landing headshots is actually kida difficult, unless you have insane aim-control"
    "Optimum lands a perfect headshot"

  • @oreosmith1939
    @oreosmith1939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you are the only person i trust for things like this, because your actually good at the games you play and you clearly care about the things you use

  • @user-kq6ei3oh2z
    @user-kq6ei3oh2z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love your work man stay on the grind ! 🐐

  • @SmoggyAlastor
    @SmoggyAlastor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That transition at 8:00 with the flick left was so damn clean. Nice job.

  • @skunkz0r
    @skunkz0r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I cant belive Endgame Gear MPC450 Stealth Edition is not on the list. Absolutely amazing pad.

    • @codexnecrogeddon
      @codexnecrogeddon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He said in the video he doesn't really like the Hien or Strider, it makes perfect sense that he wouldn't even mention the MPC450

    • @skunkz0r
      @skunkz0r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@codexnecrogeddon Understandable, but MPC450 is like the perfect balance for a cordura fast pad. its fast but not super fast and has good amount of stopping power. Its not quite a speed pad but more like a hybrid imo.

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skunkz0r Why steelseries QcK+ is not here. I have been using that for 8 years now.

    • @frigidszn7510
      @frigidszn7510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DuBstep115 funny joke

    • @DuBstep115
      @DuBstep115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frigidszn7510 funny how

  • @toututu2993
    @toututu2993 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I love about vr fps is that is perfect out of the box, no sensitivty setting nor friction to worry about because it is just natural as it is.

  • @Proutt
    @Proutt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is honestly the first time ever I agree with 100% of someone else's opinions on mousepads. Normally I find people's experience with them seem to differ so much with mine that I'm wondering if we're even talking about the same product. I used most of the pads in this video and everything is spot on, from the G640 having a break in period then being much slower but consistent for a few months to the GS-R being difficult for tracking and micro-adjustments and FINALLY someone else agrees that the Hien is difficult to control. Great camerawork too, you've earned a follower!

    • @ecchicookie
      @ecchicookie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For me, the raiden is too slow. I do so much better on pads like shidenkai, glorious ice, and skypad

  • @phoneutria8812
    @phoneutria8812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    For what is is worth... The Glorious Element Fire mousepad is basically a Fnatic Dash. The Fnatic Dash is available in larger sizes making it a better buy at $35-$40 versus the Glorious Fire unless you can find the Glorious Fire on sale during the holidays (Black Friday, Cyber Monday, etc).

    • @LaughingSkull451
      @LaughingSkull451 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daaaaamn. Wish I would've known this before buying the Glorious Fire. :(

  • @AlanIsAkira
    @AlanIsAkira 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    things people need to consider too when getting mousepads is mouse-feet as well. Stock mouse-feet or corepads end up being the more "controlled" feet, whereas Tiger Ice ends up being faster. because of that, one pad can control differently, which may or may not make it better in most cases. Right now my favorite combo is My GSR-SE + Tiger Ice on my RVU.

    • @caiusthue9606
      @caiusthue9606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      are tiger ice mouse feet significantly faster than stock?

    • @AlanIsAkira
      @AlanIsAkira 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@caiusthue9606 depends on the pad, and compared to Razer’s stock feet they are. On my GSR-SE pad they are a bit faster/smoother.

    • @quiky9065
      @quiky9065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ever tried doing opposite? A faster pad like P/GTF-X (again from zowie but i read its very resistant and easy to clean) with slower feets?

  • @aznboy568
    @aznboy568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    For those looking for the artisan zero fx they do have the artisan zero classic in stock and ready to ship now they only difference is that the classic doesnt have braided edges but if youre willing to sacrifice that then youll get it for 35 dollars for a XL soft vs 100 dollars everyone else is selling it for

    • @piter6026
      @piter6026 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      where can i get that one ?

  • @foxorian
    @foxorian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ever try the Glorious Ice with their ceramic glides? I have a friend who has one of their mice with the glides installed with an ice pad and it seriously feels like you're using a mouse on actual ice -- virtually silent glide and it'll move even if you breathe on it. I tried it and while it makes tracking pretty effortless, twitch-aiming will require completely recalibrating your muscle-memory to stop overshooting everything.

    • @ladislavbajo6882
      @ladislavbajo6882 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      can you please send me a link for those glides, thank you

    • @ian.williamson
      @ian.williamson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have that exact setup and unfortunately, that glide doesn't last forever, especially if you don't wash it frequently (yes, with soap and water). I'm currently looking for something with a bit more control and less maintenance. Considering the Glorious Fire mousepad bc I've heard pretty good things about it and the dimensions of the glorious element pads are perfect for me.

  • @kylesmith9048
    @kylesmith9048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've had the G640 for a couple of years. I really like it. The edges of the mat are starting to warp--not lying perfectly flat. The friction is a little low for what I like, but I've adapted to it and it's just personal preference anyways. My favorite mousepad I've ever owned was a SteelSeries pad (I lost it when moving houses). The SteelSeries was ever so slightly thicker and had a tad bit more friction. Overall the SteelSeries pad just felt higher quality. All that being said, the fact that my G640 has lasted this long and is still in good shape, is impressive enough to me. I wash it every few months, which I think has helped it last so long.

    • @danielttk8682
      @danielttk8682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Zowie G-SR-SE is amazing, i had the same mousepad but honestly the zowie is a direct upgrade to the G640 imo. Great stopping power at the same time as u have the speed. I love it. BUUUT if u have a lower sens the G640 maybe better

  • @torontowill
    @torontowill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Agree that the issue with the G640 is wear. And the problem is it may not wear evenly. My first one became unusable for gaming, because it developed slower worn patches that felt like tugging on a mouse cable that had run out of slack. It's like there's a slick coating on the top of the pad that wears out over time. It would be fine if the wear was even, but in my experience it wasn't. It wore out pretty suddenly, too, I thought that I must have spilled something sticky on the mousepad, it was such a stark difference in glide speed.
    I do think it's a good pad -- I bought it again recently when I found at a sale price -- but you have to anticipate that it will eventually wear out.

  • @Ryn0_333
    @Ryn0_333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Solid takes, I have all of these pads as well. My main for a while now has been the GSRSE for Valorant, it is the pad I play the best on no doubt. I would suggest the Inked Gaming Pad for anyone's first pad for tac shooters. For BR's and fast shooters, as a first pad I would suggest the Hayate Otsu B mid if you have the money and if you don't I would suggest the Razer Strider or Aqua Control Plus (The white and colored variants are the same(The black one is the only one that is not heat pressed and they renamed it the Aqua Control 2 to reduce confusion)).

  • @hxpers
    @hxpers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I play siege/valorant/warzone on low-medium sens and I enjoy the Hien XL. Obviously everyone has their own preferences and one day I'll probably try the Hayate Otsu XL but for now I've been pretty happy with my purchase. Great video like always Ali

  • @Surge_prod
    @Surge_prod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good review! I had 3 pads: Zowie G-SR Large, Glorious Helios and Logitech G640.
    Zowie G-SR Large - I didn`t like at all, as Optimum Tech said I felt what I fighting this pad. + It becomes durty very quickly.
    Glorious Helios - hard pad. Decent but very small (good if you play only on high sens), I liked it, but this pad derstroys your mouse skates in just 2 weeks bcz of it`s surface and it changes the feeling of your mouse.
    Logitech G640 - best choice. Together with G-Pro Superlight the best combo (at least for Valorant).

    • @libertyprime9307
      @libertyprime9307 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Large is the only size of G-SR by the way.
      The small version is P-SR.

  • @paxpaxman4423
    @paxpaxman4423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I have gotten a little creative recently and been using a hard mousepad on top of different thicker and larger mousepads/deskmats for the last months. The combination is pretty fast but still has some control and it now feels pretty natural to me. I love switching deskmats to accent my setup but they seem too slow and soft for competitive gaming, so this approach has been my weird solution.

    • @mortFPS
      @mortFPS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do the same

  • @xxGSSDxx
    @xxGSSDxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just watched 20+ yt videos about mousepads and now here you are posting this vid. excellent timing sir. i missed the lgg venus, would like to hear your opinion on this pad.

  • @2amkebab
    @2amkebab 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Brother, this kind of advice is exactly what I'm after right now. Even better that it's coming from you, thanks so much.

  • @chrisdotdash5154
    @chrisdotdash5154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What washed my FX Artisan Hien xSoft after using it for 8-9 months, and it feels like brand new. I used Dawn dish soap and medium temp water. Washing it was easy. The Hien is a beast. The Hien needs to be broken in. It is really fast at first, but once you break it in it turns into an almost perfect pad.

    • @tunatuna8877
      @tunatuna8877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      did you get used to the texture? I got used to it pretty quick but heard some say that it goes away. It blows my mind how much more glide it has compared to the texture.

    • @unrealbh3954
      @unrealbh3954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same for me, after I used to it theres no turning back to any other mousepad in the world. Absolutely love the Hien.

    • @notactivee
      @notactivee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just ordered an FX Hien Soft pad and I’m really hoping I don’t regret it. I currently use a hyperX speed pad so I’m not sure what to expect

    • @AlohaBiatch
      @AlohaBiatch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@notactivee How are you enjoying it? I also have a hyperx pad and hien.Personallly I prefer the Hien by a long shot. the quality and texture is amazing.

    • @notactivee
      @notactivee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlohaBiatch yes the hien was definitely something different at first, but now that I’ve broken into it it’s honestly great and I’ll never go back

  • @reality1096
    @reality1096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVE U. You are a amazing tech reviewer, and you’re also cracked. You play all the popular games and understand how we like to play and what we need. Ur the best

  • @mudanenadaara
    @mudanenadaara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A good alternative to the Artisan pads are X-raypad. I have their aqua control plus mousepad which is close to the hayate otsu in terms of speed and control. If you want an allrounder you can go for that. Rubber base and good build quality, will not lose glide even after washing it

    • @r1zlas
      @r1zlas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My aqua control + has delaminated :(

  • @dominic.h.3363
    @dominic.h.3363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally my second day looking for one, then you upload this video! :D

  • @tinycar123
    @tinycar123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The G640 has a coating so be aware of any moisture as that could gradually wear it off. The coating will also wear with time with everyday use and this will make the texture change over the lifespan. lastly, If you live in a humid area this mouse pad will feel like mud as the friction increases. Keep these factors in mind if your planning to buy this mouse pad.

    • @MrBenderrrr
      @MrBenderrrr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which mouse pad would you recommend which doesn't have any coating?

    • @tinycar123
      @tinycar123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrBenderrrr Lethal gaming gear makes very high quality mousepads that aren't overly expensive and they come in a few different sizing options and texture. They have no coating on the surface and are not affected by humidity so the pad should feel the same throughout the whole lifespan.
      The only issue is that the mousepads are a new release and are very popular so some models may be out of stock. Also if you don't live in the US or close to the us, shipping may be expensive.

  • @flower.twilight
    @flower.twilight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! Keep it up. I look forward to these awesome comparisons

  • @xXdarkness99
    @xXdarkness99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    coolermaster mp510 i think is another underrated option. it’s relatively cheap, the cordura fabric provides lots of control and doesn’t wear (been using it for about 3 years now), only thing to get used to is the textured rubber on your arm. other than that it’s great!! recommended by rocket jump ninja as well!!

    • @kurincc
      @kurincc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are better more high quality cordura mousepads on the market. Endgame Gear MPC450, X-Raypad Traigun are good examples of that

    • @xXdarkness99
      @xXdarkness99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kurincc ooh do you have a personal recommendation? I've been using mine for a while might consider switching to another mousepad soon haha

    • @kurincc
      @kurincc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @xDuckRice Personally the only two mousepads I've tried and can reccomend are the Traigun and Xtrfy GP4 which I both really like, although I tend to play better with the Traigun since it's a lot faster and I track better with fast pads. If you live in the US the Lethal Gaming Gear mousepads should be really good, they will also start selling pads in europe soon BTW! You should check out Boardzy's mousepad tierlist where he ranks over 70 mousepads he tried! Good luck with finding a new mousepad!

    • @xXdarkness99
      @xXdarkness99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kurincc thanks dude. too bad i live in Singapore (SEA), ill check out boardzy for sure!!

    • @kurincc
      @kurincc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xXdarkness99 yeah boardzy does primarily mouse reviews but has a lot of mousepad videos, he's great!

  • @BOBBIGUY
    @BOBBIGUY 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The thing is that with a lint roller, the fibers of the pad also lift, so for me personally, it damaged my artisan pad/ dind’t work. I found a solution that works very well for me but it is a bit of effort: If you are not using the pad, put masking film on it and try to replace the film you use after there is dust on it the next time you play. Not exactly resource efficient and kinda cringe though, but solved it

  • @elli6973
    @elli6973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I really like your videos! I’d recommend you give the Skypad another try, it takes a week or two to get used to, but honestly it’s just pretty nuts. Deceptively high control and stopping power, given that you have good mouse control.

  • @GoldExgle
    @GoldExgle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love to see your opinion on something like the skypad, once I tried glass I haven’t been able to go back! It has a learning curve but the tracking you can get is just next level!

    • @tinychamberz
      @tinychamberz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      he wont like it i guess, when he thinkd the strider is too fast ^^

    • @KeePWatchin
      @KeePWatchin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree I won't lie skypad is a beast after the learning curve, however you will loose a little bit of control especially depending on your DPI

  • @nik003
    @nik003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i recommend GTF-X from zowie for a cloth mousepad where you won't need high maintenance for. its half plastic half cloth which means it is a hybrid, do be aware that the mousepad surface is tough (not hard as hard pads. and not as soft as cloth) once you get to its breaking point it doesn't really get muddy that much compared to other cloth mousepads

  • @perspicacity89
    @perspicacity89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are very, very, very good at FPS games and you have an absolutely amazing TH-cam channel. Your videos are clean, crisp, succinct, and to the point.

  • @prainmantis
    @prainmantis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    wait a darn minute here .......... are we going gloss over the fact he's a sweaty wraith main?!?!?! haha I love it.

  • @ztks
    @ztks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks. I ditched my mousepad immediately after watching this and got the Logitech G640 as it is a fraction of the cost of the Artisan pads.

    • @johnroux9680
      @johnroux9680 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too! (after reading your comment xD)

    • @johnroux9680
      @johnroux9680 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How have you been experiencing it thus far? And which mouse pad did you have before? I found a G640 for just under 30USD

  • @99in16
    @99in16 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Hien has a wear in period, I'm on my second XL Xsoft, using gfloats on a pulsar xlite(sanded the bottom, glued the feet) the best setup I've had so far for micro adjustments (36cm/360)
    need to get a hayate otsu sometime in the future and compare

    • @-Cesh-
      @-Cesh- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the Hien as well and I plan on getting thr otsu to try since his comments on “sandpaper” texture are spot on for me. I am always wearing a sleeve to play because of the irritation. I’m not sure if I will like the slower pad though. I was on hard pads before the hein.

    • @shindigira
      @shindigira 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holy crap!! Guess I am not alone. I am using g-floats on a Hien as well. I can't believe people have not discovered this combo yet.
      As you said, it allows for microadjustment

    • @zilliq
      @zilliq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I understand some of these words

    • @AlohaBiatch
      @AlohaBiatch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@-Cesh- I feel like I'm going crazy, I've been using the hien for about 6 months and no issue at alll with the wrists getting irritated. Maybe I aiom in a diferent way? (I tend to use my wrist rather tthan the arm)

    • @H3SO88
      @H3SO88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlohaBiatch Me too it doesn't irritate my wrist or arm on the Hien. It feels kinda rough but smooth. Out of the box tho is rough and tingly but it will fade.

  • @jumpman1213
    @jumpman1213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Mouse feet should not be overlooked in terms of glide feel imo. I too consider Hien SOFT to be a bit too fast for my preference but a pair of Tiger Arc 2 made it much more manageable.

  • @jozza177
    @jozza177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I would also recommend the Xtrfy GP4 for a general well balanced pad. It works really well for me in games like Battlefield and csgo.

    • @solvdev
      @solvdev 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ageeee

  • @Mr.DJones
    @Mr.DJones 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much. Good information. I've got the LTT mouse pad at 1000/700mm. Works great for US$29. All sizes are the same price. Great quality. Thanks again.

  • @Juj0me
    @Juj0me 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm using Steelseries Qck Heavy. It's insanely great (imo). So I would recommend this one.

  • @Shadowmike18
    @Shadowmike18 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello,
    which mouse are you using in the footage? (7:32 and 9:50)??

  • @sololakey1906
    @sololakey1906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    for the artisan mousepads (apart from shidenkai) u can just soak the mousepad in water to loosen the hair particles that get stuck. Then u can use the lint roller to easily clean it. Becs of its build quality, soaking it in water wont damage it

  • @4JsGaming
    @4JsGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    holy shit you made this video at the perfect time, i just started thinking about upgrading and looking into good mousepads

  • @breakies
    @breakies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    *Pro Tip for the Artisan Zero:*
    Pre clean it with disinfectant Spray and constantly swiping with a micro fiber cloth
    or one of those Cloth's you use to clean Glasses with. Then you get most of the hair
    out with the Lintroller and it will be as good as new when its dried.

    • @gregh2003
      @gregh2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what kind of disinfectant spray? alcohol based?

    • @Tim_7068
      @Tim_7068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gregh2003 the disinfectant spray e meant is something like lysol, dont use achohol lol

    • @user-ow2bw7ed8g
      @user-ow2bw7ed8g 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gregh2003 like pledge or some alternative

  • @BILLDOZERGAMING
    @BILLDOZERGAMING 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm actually looking for a new mousepad atm thanks for the video really helps

  • @JohnMargaretten
    @JohnMargaretten 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Like my Logitech G640 but do not love it due to poor construction/durability. Apart from points made in the review... Love the way it integrates with the wireless charging pad and mouse. Hate that the leading edge of the pad has delaminated after less than 6 months of use due to my forearm and/or palm rubbing against it.

  • @vividas
    @vividas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You might be the only large tech content channel that is decent at games.

  • @jimjamalamadingdong
    @jimjamalamadingdong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah, thanks, I needed this!

  • @Rezzered
    @Rezzered 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only thing i wish they would improve on G640 is a rubber base same as Artisan pads & and low profile stitched edges, it would be a endgame right there.

  • @samwong8193
    @samwong8193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I tried a lot of mousepads but eventually I just wished my whole desk was covered in mousepad. So I ordered a custom size plain black mousepad from Xraypad in the dimensions of my desk. It was 80 bucks and totally worth it.

    • @Shiftito
      @Shiftito 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. My solution was to get an XXL pad and essentially forget about its existence - just play.

    • @tricket2701
      @tricket2701 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shiftito bro same I got some big ass mouse pad and now I’m thinking about getting a smaller one

    • @dushanstankovikj
      @dushanstankovikj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No mousepad worrh 80 bucks trust me. You have a lot cheaper mousepads you didnt heard of, and they feel same and last the same.

    • @pendrewproduction5532
      @pendrewproduction5532 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dushanstankovikj what you recommending chief?

    • @dushanstankovikj
      @dushanstankovikj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pendrewproduction5532 idk man you can try whatever you want. You can go x7 by a4tech its cheaper than everyone almost same quality i dont notice diference. Only if you want 0 glide you can go with something more expensive like steelseries or whatever brand.

  • @ronaldbos9345
    @ronaldbos9345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MSI agility GD20 is the one I recommend if you are a high sensitivity player and are looking for a moderately sized mousepad. Its low friction makes micro adjustments effortless, yet it provides enough control when you make bigger movements. I own mine for three years and it's still in great condition.

  • @TheUnrealPancake
    @TheUnrealPancake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I want to say that the glorious ice and air pads are good, as I have used both, but they only are good if your sens is extremely low (like mine). I run 1800 dpi @ 0.2 sens on CSGO so pretty low. I main as an AWPer and the extremely low friction really helps with flicks. There is an adjustment period, but I still would like to mention this, as he sort of glossed over them and didn't recommend them. These pads are very use case for extremely low sens players that flick a lot.

    • @TheUnrealPancake
      @TheUnrealPancake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@idkwhatname3133 Maybe for you. Not for me though. Just because your experience is different than mine doesn't mean I'm "clueless". Like I said, there is a specific use case for the pad, and I find it works well for me. At the end of the day, each pad is down to preference. I gave my experience so that others like me, may look at this mouse pad and consider it. If you don't like it personally, that's fine.
      Also I'd like to put down that I've used many different mouse pads over the past 10 years+ including Razer's hard "control / speed" mouse pad, no mouse pad at all, many cloth pads, artisan pads, etc. I am saying what works for me and it will not be the same as everybody else's preference. I have always used speed / hard pads when available and so I'm very used to the feel precision a speed pad requires. I actually think that maybe you're the clueless one if you really think that speed pads don't have a use case especially with the extreme low sensitivity that I play on.

    • @zilliq
      @zilliq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      360edpi, damn that's low. Did you ever break your shoulder when turning 180?

    • @TheUnrealPancake
      @TheUnrealPancake 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zilliq it's part of the reason. why for a time, I used no mouse pad and sanded down my desk and used that lol

    • @bobloblaw6960
      @bobloblaw6960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@idkwhatname3133 i have ice and i love it, low sens dream

  • @craig6225
    @craig6225 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting video, who knew there was so much to consider when buying a mouse pad. As someone about to build my first gaming PC, this channel has helped a ton, so thanks for that!
    Just wondered if anything has changed in the last year since this video was published that would change your recommendations?

  • @Snook_
    @Snook_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The zero in mid actually feels much closer to the otsu with that tiny bit more tracking power then the soft, its a VERY good combo. The hair issue is so annoying tho. I currently keep going between this and the otsu in mid. I like mid because the pad surface never moves under duress

  • @Rus9011
    @Rus9011 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you're looking for thick desk and soft pad that is very comfortable for elbows / wrists, you may wanna have a look at Fusionstrike original limestone desk mat. Been using it for 3 years personally and my friends, so far it's been great so we made a whole batch of them. Currently ship within UK but could sort out international shipment too. The rubber is made from sustainable limestone rock (instead of oil/petrol) which makes it more environmentally friendly than most desk mats out there. It's laminated with super stretch smooth nylon so it's mouse compatible and very gentle to skin.

  • @Lafret17
    @Lafret17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I suggest giving the razer strider more time. I switched to one from a slow cloth pad and once I got used to it my mind was blown. I can’t go back. My aim is pure fire on the strider. I’m a 4060 peak Ashe/widow/hanzo player for reference.

    • @kylelang9878
      @kylelang9878 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just got it and I'm leaning toward preferring it over the Logitech, but I'm curious if the eDPI has anything to do with it. I play on 3200, which is on the lower side, so maybe someone with twitchier aim prefer to have more resistance?

    • @kingofyoursoul
      @kingofyoursoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      how is your strider? still the same?

    • @Lafret17
      @Lafret17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kingofyoursoul its still very good. its a difficult pad to use, but when u get in the zone with it its unstoppable. i use it on days when my aim is on point.

    • @zoriiginalx7544
      @zoriiginalx7544 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Strider is amazing. Love using it in Tarkov and R6 Siege

    • @zoriiginalx7544
      @zoriiginalx7544 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Strider is amazing. Love using it in Tarkov and R6 Siege

  • @Marcelius
    @Marcelius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing video, really insightful! I was also wondering, will you be checking out the new Zowie C series? They look pretty good and i would love to hear what you have to say about them.

  • @nezke4700
    @nezke4700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cool and well described reviews! I used the Hyperx Fury S Control and it's still awesome. Those Apex clips were fire bro my god

    • @gdgd5194
      @gdgd5194 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shit pad unless you buy new one each month. That's what s1mple does.

  • @dravenwrightlee8390
    @dravenwrightlee8390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was literally just about to look for a new mousepad, good timing dude 😂😂

    • @dravenwrightlee8390
      @dravenwrightlee8390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And can I just say, you’re CRACKED at apex my guy

  • @thedofflin
    @thedofflin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm a big fan of SteelSeries QcK, seems to hit a sweet spot for all the games I play (no 'sticky' static friction, but medium dynamic friction which helps with consistency.) Also very good durability, no edge fraying and I haven't noticed any change to friction where I use my mouse a lot.
    My first mouse pad was some Corsair one and I do not recommend at all

    • @Yuzuki1337
      @Yuzuki1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought a QcK Heavy about 12 years ago and I still use it to this day, it's heavily worn down but it still is very consistent and usable and I think that speaks for itself

    • @alwandhiyaharits3971
      @alwandhiyaharits3971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Yuzuki1337 holy shi7 12 years

    • @Yuzuki1337
      @Yuzuki1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alwandhiyaharits3971 Right? I mean it totally looks like a 12-year-old mousepad but it's also still very usable :)

    • @alwandhiyaharits3971
      @alwandhiyaharits3971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Yuzuki1337 im impressed on you like how a cloth mousepad can be worn by a gamer for over a year is like absolutely impossible but i think you are good at keeping your stuff so you made it worth like 12 times (at least) more than it used to be

    • @Yuzuki1337
      @Yuzuki1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alwandhiyaharits3971 I think that might be because the qck Heavy is a massive chonker of a mousepad! And yeah I love mine to bits so I refuse to replace it for as long as it works, which at this point might honestly be a few more decades!

  • @pengouin
    @pengouin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for your comments! really liked the vid, i got myself 2 zowie gs r before trying them because they were so hard to get and found them a bit too slow for cs , their stopping power is wild, i found that with my deathadder v2 the goliathus speed stragely was my favorite mix over all. its 70 cm large and doesnt really fit my keyboard so i will give the logitech g640 a chance thanks to your review!

    • @ahmetahskal8482
      @ahmetahskal8482 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, did you use Logitech g640?

    • @pengouin
      @pengouin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ahmetahskal8482 now i do use the Logitech G840 XL + deathadder v2 , it is a pretty good mix for me

  • @J_Granted
    @J_Granted 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Personally enjoyed the Glorious Ice pad but unfortunately the slows spots that develop on the pad after months of use is annoying. Bearing in mind I clean the surface of the pad regularly. So with this video I'm definitely looking to moving towards fabric based mousepads.

  • @centric3073
    @centric3073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great content as always........I have an idea for the next content, I have been scouring the net to find the relationship with stretch resolution and the benefits when comes to fps and delay. It will mean a lot if you had the time to create this content. (Yes, I have seen many of forms and suggestions but it almost fills like a myth just like the discussion on G-sync vs V-sync that people came up with in the past)

  • @Jasz_
    @Jasz_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The only mousepad I can use is the QcK Heavy - any recommendations like this?

    • @kasyfiladha3216
      @kasyfiladha3216 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Artisan zero or xtrfy gp4

    • @nex3877
      @nex3877 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Xtrfy GP4 black feels like an in-between of the Zero and QCK imo.

    • @hammers1594
      @hammers1594 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zero's a bit faster but way better imo -former qck heavy only user

  • @ChillNikov
    @ChillNikov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this guy. I just stumbled upon these videos and I felt like I was in his Mousepad shop and hes giving me a lesson on what is the best choice.

  • @scrubbasher
    @scrubbasher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I moved from a Zowie Gsr to a Cooler Master MP510 because the zowie was getting old and held moisture a lot and was a pain to clean. The mp510 is actually really good and I've never had to clean it because of the material. Worth a look in.

  • @zerrano
    @zerrano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Completely unrelated to this actual video, but I just want you to know that your audio in your vids are phenomenal, and I actually use your videos to EQ, whenever new cans come in haha.

  • @stayawayfromthoseoranges
    @stayawayfromthoseoranges 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The main issue I have with my old as Razer Goliathus control is that super grippy texture that just isn't comfortable on the wrist or arm. I do want to try getting into using more of my arm in aiming, but that will probably start when I get a g640 :)

    • @martin518441
      @martin518441 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      in my experience goliathus looses the grippynes in like 3-4 months of cs go usage

  • @Ninogan
    @Ninogan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have used the zowie, razer and artisan and ever since I got the Artisan i've not looked back. Excellent and stylish pads.

  • @SkateEvan1
    @SkateEvan1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The Hien is definitely hard to tame initially coming from all those other pads but once it gets broken in the low static friction/control ratio is absolutely insane. That being said I’m back on the zero and Vaxee pa…

    • @migsablay2099
      @migsablay2099 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's better between the FX Zero and the Vaxee PA?

    • @SkateEvan1
      @SkateEvan1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@migsablay2099 both really good but I like the PA a little more right now cause my arm sleeve doesn’t get caught in the weave

    • @tinocabral4201
      @tinocabral4201 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SkateEvan1 did ur zero get faster or slower? Mines brand new and feels just a tad bit quick/slick and out of control, I’m hoping this will change once broken in

    • @SkateEvan1
      @SkateEvan1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tinocabral4201 i haven’t noticed any real change in the glide, maybe a tad bit slower but it’s an easy pad to get used to so I’d say just stick with it. If you want something with a similar feel but slightly higher friction and stopping power look into the PA

  • @JihangAU
    @JihangAU 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say that the things he said about the Zowie GS-R are spot on as I have been using it for a while now and have the exact same things happening for me

  • @KiLLJOY1056
    @KiLLJOY1056 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The problem is, im not paying $200 for a Mousepad, i really dont care how good it might be. Its a piece of fabric. I agree with paying a lot for good tech like mouses/keyboards, but not a mousepad. Not happening.

    • @rlalfie2480
      @rlalfie2480 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Totally agree

    • @tharukanisal460
      @tharukanisal460 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's what I'm saying. Only exception is people who play games professionally & semi professionally. Even then Some of these pads have Ridiculous prices.

    • @KiLLJOY1056
      @KiLLJOY1056 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@tharukanisal460 The problem is when they support it, theyll keep making them expensive. They cost $20 at most to make the fancy Artisan ones, and if nobody bought them at their ridiculous price, then they would be forced to lower the price.

    • @JM-tj5qm
      @JM-tj5qm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think they are overpriced because of the quality control. People get really anal about the imperfections.
      The thing is, you can probably try some cheap ones, and there is a good chance one of them is just as good. You just need a consistent surface to drag the mouse on, that’s it. The cheap ones are more likely to have imperfections, but if you find one that’s even and has just the right friction, you can use it until it wear off and buy another one.
      You really don’t lose anything. Just try them out first.

    • @KiLLJOY1056
      @KiLLJOY1056 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JM-tj5qm It doesnt have anything to do with Quality Control because when you make a good product from the start Quality Control doesnt take any time. Every company has quality control, and there are plenty cheap objects that have better quality control than objects that cost 10x as much. I know plenty about the mousepads and have tried and found the ones that I like the most, and they arent near as expensive as the others, and their quality control has been just fine. You do lose out when you pay $200 for a mousepad that you either dont like or feels and does the same as the $40 mousepad youve been using the whole time. That is a loss. Most people dont have the money to just try everything out.

  • @SixtyFour10
    @SixtyFour10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Recently I was looking for new mousepad, thanks for the video!, maybe on christmas I buy a Artisian MP

  • @hwi7114
    @hwi7114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Solid video, as usual. I tried a few Artisan pads (Hien, Hayate, and Shiden) 10 years ago or so, wasn't a huge fan over the long term, weren't easy to clean and the surfaces seemed to wear out faster than it should. Been using a Steelseries QcK on and off over the past few years and seem to always go back to it, good control, pretty durable, and you can throw it in the washing machine to clean it. I'm no pro by any stretch of the imagination, so this is just the opinion of an average joe.

    • @hsavov
      @hsavov 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have been using a QcK for several years now and although I don't have any point of comparison to other pads, I have really enjoyed it for Dota and CS GO.

  • @lil----lil
    @lil----lil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. The more you give, The more you receive. Really simple.

  • @__vha
    @__vha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Really like my Zero X-Soft, wish I went with soft but all good. I find for slower long strafe scenarios the Zero does fine, games with fast strafes you’ll definitely want a pad with a bit more speed. The day I got my Zero I broke my personal best for my Kovaaks scores on all the scenarios I play. Pretty impressed considering I stopped playing games for about a month due to life picking up. Definitely a goated pad.

    • @lucasgenolini3767
      @lucasgenolini3767 ปีที่แล้ว

      do mousepad really matter? i have a cheap one 15 euros

    • @TankTnT_
      @TankTnT_ ปีที่แล้ว

      does the hair issue bother you?

    • @Miketacticz
      @Miketacticz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lucasgenolini3767once you try an artisan you will realize how different and premium they are

    • @Miketacticz
      @Miketacticz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TankTnT_not really tbh. Especially if you clean it or lint roll it

  • @Kappah.
    @Kappah. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo idk y but this dude is the first person to ever make me watch a peripheral video all the way through and I stood interested the whole time

  • @shadecsgo2412
    @shadecsgo2412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey Optimum Tech, great video as always.
    I was wondering if you could a video like this, but with headsets?
    I've been looking at EPOS H6PRO & Logitech X Pro (Currently using HyperX Cloud II)
    Enjoy your quality videos. :)

  • @dominic2513
    @dominic2513 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best as always! Ty for your recommendations! Gj :)

  • @stormrider01
    @stormrider01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I use only cloth mousepads and I am very happy with them. They feel very smooth and don´t wear the mouse stands down so much. I use now the Razer Firefly Cloth Edition 1 and it´s top.

    • @Luke357
      @Luke357 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@idkwhatname3133 LMAO true.