So glad I saw this video, I just upgraded my bars to 12" and replaced my rear suspension on my 2014 SGS with the Legend Revo rear shocks and yes it is like night and day vs the Harley stock suspension but now I am feeling the "loose" front end that you describe. It looks like I am going to have to upgrade the front as well. Those 2 upgrades were not cheap but knowing that my ride will be that much better by replacing the front end then it's money well spent IMO. I appreciate the content you put out here so that people can be better informed.
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I just tried to have suspension upgraded, front and rear. Everybody swears this is the first upgrade everybody should do. I got the front installed (Fox HD cartridges), but the rear became an issue. I bought the HD IFP-QSR 13" FOX shocks, but when installed the axle nut and swingarm would hit the exhaust. Local HD dealer was dong the install. So may end up swapping out the 13" Fox shocks for the 12" Fox versions instead. Right now went back to stock 12" shocks for now. But 12" Fox shocks still should be much better than stock on the rear, but was hoping to goto the 13" shocks so I can get the extra travel. But just a warning for some that you may have to adjust in some way for many of the 4 1/2" pipes we all tend to use if you go with 13" shocks. Local dealer mentioned some pipes seem to be ok, some aren't. Love to hear form others watching ways in which they get around some of these issues or if you ran into issues like this. Heard some hammered their pipes creating more indentications to make it work. Or perhaps some sort of spacer or something else. Open for suggestions.
Thanks Gerry for watching and commenting. I have 4.5" Tab and Rineharts that I have run with 13" Legends and not issues hitting the axle nut. I have heard some have had issues with Khromewerks 4.5 inch slip ons. That has been my experience. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
I have legends on my SG and RK. Absolutely love them. On the RK I only have them on the rear and can definitely feel the crappy front end. I use this mainly as my practice bike so the front shocks are on the back burner. Putting the 13" legends on the rear though brought the bike up and I'm not scraping nearly as much. You can never go wrong with legends. Great video brother
I have Legends Suspension on the back of my street glide sp. Two yrs. ago I was on a road trip from Ohio to California. About half way there I noticed the back of my bike was feeling a bit different. My first thought was low tire pressure. I checked it and it was a bit low so I added a couple of pounds of air hoping that would do the trick. Well it didn't. Got to California and rode up the PCH (Pacific Coast Hwy) and stopped at a Harley dealer hoping they would take a look at it. Well with my luck they couldn't (or wouldn't) and they said Legends h.q. is in Sturgis. So I headed there. Got there a few mins before they closed. One guy was leaving and he came over to me asking if everything was ok. I explained my situation and went back into the shop. A minute later he came out with a coworker. They said they couldn't do anything at the moment but come back tomorrow when we open and they would take a look. I came back the next day and they got me right in. One of the rear shocks had failed. About two hrs latter I was good to go and on the road. No charge because of a lifetime warranty. My next bike will definitely have Legends (front and back).
Thanks Scott for sharing that story. It's good to know that the warranty is truly honored. So far I haven't had any issues and wow what a great ride with the front and rear system. 👍✌️👊
I had the Revo A 13 s on my 2018 RGS for about 3 years and loved them but being short-legged and getting older I just put on the 12-inch heavy duty, I didn't notice much of a difference so far. Legends makes a great product
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Yup, 2020 SGS. I installed the 13” Revo A’s out back and stock up front. I’m about 240 and my girls 110. I often feel like the front end is a little squirrelly on me. Looks like I have a new winter project ahead of me now. Thank you for the excellent video/advice.
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I mounted a pair of Revo Arc shocks on my FXR4 and it was amazing. Set the preload according to the instructions and adjust the clickers to get the ride you want. Now the front end feels horrible. If I had the money, I would change front and rear at the same time. Raising the rear of the bike an inch does make the handling a little quicker but that will level out when I do the forks. thanks for the video
Thanks for watching and commenting. When I put the front on, I was amazed at the improvement in the ride as I stated in the video. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
I just switched from a 22 SGST to a 13 SG. The 22 had the Progressive remote reservoir rear shocks. That bike just felt more planted to the road. I had much more confidence cornering. I've only put a few miles on the 13 so far (it has Ledgend suspension in the rear guessing nothing done to the front) but that loose front end feel was instant! Very glad I found this video. I have seen a few of your other videos. But obviously this one was well worth the watch. Thanks!! Subscribed!
Thanks for watching, commenting, and subscribing Having Legends in the rear and front makes a huge difference for sure. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
I have Street Glide 2013 i change for Legend Revo A .I dont see much difference where it was rough it still rough. I've try different setting no luck. I change for Legend Revo A 12 inch. The stock we're 11 inch followed the instructions on paper and on TH-cam. Any suggestions. Thanks
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That’s a thumbs up from me. I bought my bike used with Legends on the back. I really enjoy them and customer service warranty procedure is amazing! Thank you for doing a video on these. So many people say Ohlins are the best, but is that from experience or marketing? IMO, anything is better than stock Harley shocks!
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I ride a 2008 Road King classic and self-installed the 13-inch Legend Revo a rear shocks. I definitely feel an improvement in going over small bumps. I too have experienced the wiggle feeling coming from the front because those are still stock suspension. So I want to get the axio legend front suspension and decided I'm going to go with the more expensive type for touring as opposed to performance.
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Your spot on rick by saying change both front and rear shocks to get the best ride,definitely gotta look at the fine print and order the right weight ratio that gonna be on your bike,thinking I’m gonna go with fox heavy duty on mine because its a limited and we put a lot of luggage on it going on trips👍👍
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Your correct about the rears out performing the front end after legends installation. I did the rears and it only took a few decent rides on different conditions of roads. I had to go and do the fronts also. If you're mechanically inclined it's a pretty easy installation. I have did a few sets of fronts & rears now
Thanks again for the comment. I probably would have installed the frint myself but my local HD dealer had a special which was basically 200 labor to do it...big discount so I let them do it. 👊✌️👍
So I had the same instability of my bike after installing a pair of remote-Ohlins. My solution was to better dial in my preload. My suspension was set too soft and felt loose at highway speeds. One I found a better setting the instability went away.
I have the legend air on the back and love them! Finger tip control of my suspension in real time. Never uncomfortable again! Plus you lower them when parking and slow maneuvering to give even more control! Oh get the front upgraded as well!
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Legends has several of their own videos to help pick what's right to choose from and how to set them up correctly. I love my 13 inch heavy duty Revo A on my 21 SG,im about 275lbs with a tour pack and my girlfriend were speaking over 500lbs. It rides great solo without tour pack or 2 up with tour pack. I set my sag to 1 inch and forget it no matter what rides along with me. Very comfortable. Probably going with Ohlins on the front though if you ever watch the guy doing a compare to 1 another with the oil valve can be adjusted with Ohlins. Legends you have to take it completely apart. Keep rubber the side down.
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I have Legends 13” on my Street Glide, and 13” Pro Action shocks on my Road Glide. The Pro Action shocks ride like a cloud, and also out handle the Legends by a long shot. The Pro Actions handle both solo and two-up perfectly. The Legends when set up for solo, will bottom badly when two-up, and when set for two-up they ride like a 2x4 when solo. There are many better options than Legends.
Glad you had success with your Legend shocks. I purchased the Legend air shocks and had nothing but trouble with them. Warranted them 2X and gave up. They refused to send new ones. Maybe they knew they would also be Chinese junk.
Thanks for watching and commenting. So far the REVOs and Axeo cartridges have been all good. Bern running the Revos for over 3 years. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
I weigh 242 lbs. and left my front Axio at 0 preload and fully loaded with my wife I have never bottomed out and it feels nice and tight on the canyons, and brake dive on the twisties is less that stock, my next upgrade will be to switch the front end to GP Suspension fully adjustable front cartridge kit.
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That is correct. With rider and gear...should be set at 12 inches. Thanks for sharing the clarification. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👍✌️👊
Thanks John for watching and commenting. Running the entire set up front and back is a huge improvement. If you have the budget, I'd definitely suggest doing the rear and front. Thanks for your support to the channel and ride safe. 👍✌️👊
If ya want the Cadillac suspension, go with Wilbers. I am saving up right now to get them. Everything I can find on them basically says they are the Cadillac suspension for Harleys. That's what I want out of my bike, comfort with amazing handling. Does anyone on here have Wilbers? I'd like to hear your viewpoint as well.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I have heard good things about Wilbers. Go check out the Flyandride15 youtube channel. He has had wilbers on his bike for about a year or so. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊
Good video. I put 13” legends on my SG and love them. I do feel that wiggle in the front end like you mention. I’m still running the stock front suspension. I do need to get the fronts now.
Thanks Brian for watching and commenting. I noticed it on my 2015 SGS but not as much as I did on the 2021 RGS. It is an amazing ride after getting the fronts on it. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
Great video!...I put Progessive suspension on my 2020 UL...I did front and rear at the same time...putting a high-end suspension on one end and leaving the stock junk on the other made no sense to me!...thanks for sharing...stay safe out there!!!😎👍🤙👍🤙🇨🇦
The amount of money needed to make these bikes ride better is insane... HD has apparently improved their suspension on the new CVO bikes. I am going to live with my stock setup even though they are not great. Good video :-)
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Catchy subject I really like it 👌 While I enjoy my rear 13” shocks and made big difference in comfort they damage my muffler on the right side due to increased length. Now I wait till they punch the hole in my pipe.
Thanks Art for watching and commenting. I'm surprised a 13 inch shock hits the exhaust. I've not had that problem at all on either the 2015 Street Glide Special or the Road Glide Special. Ride safe and enjoy. 👊✌️👍
Take a small ballpeen hammer and make a dimple where it's rubbing some aftermarket mufflers don't have the ones that factory mufflers do I think that it's maybe even suggested in the instructions
@@HDVIBE I have KW mufflers they are 4.5” I believe. Seems like factory indentation in muffler is not deep enough for this combo. I compress the spring quite a bit to get to comfort zone as I adjusted for me, wife and load so maybe that's why. When I decompress the spring before tire service was done there was plenty of clearance as shock compressed easily under bike load only. If your pre load is for single rider I will see how this wouldn't be an issue. Sucks to damage $1000 pipes but at least it is hidden but bugs my mind a bit when I think about it.
First of all I want to thank you for the feedback on this very important suspension issue that you have given in your video. On the other hand, I want to ask you in your opinion what is the best solution to prevent the wheels damage, especially the front one, from being damaged by falling into bumps; I am thinking of replacing the original 19-inch front RIN that my 2022 Street Glide Special comes with an 18-inch one with a fat 180/55 R18 tire and also putting a front suspension on it, Legend, AXEO Comfort and also replacing the rear suspension with some 13-inch REVO-A shock absorbers, as you suggested in your video, my question for you would be if, based on your experience, do you think that with these improvements I will obtain a better driving experience and reduce the chances of damaging my wheels again? I live in Mexico and the roads in my country are not in very good condition like in the United States in Canada. thanks for your feedback and all the best!
Thanks for watching and commenting. I think you are definitely making some good upgrades and changes. Unfortunately no suspension or tire can be an absolute solution to prevent damage from large pot holes in the road. I think the best you can do is make the changes to the bike as you mentioned and ride very diligently and doing your best to avoid big pot holes in the road. All the best and thank you for your support to the channel. Ride safe and enjoy. 👊👍✌️
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Thanks for watching and commenting. The 13s give you more travel. You set the preload with you on it at 12 inch center bolt to bolt. If you get 12s, you set them at 11 1/2 center bolt to bolt. So if you go 12s it will actually sit lower than stock. Hope that helps. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍
Thanks for watching and commenting. That is interesting to hear. One thing I've noticed in the past is if the front tire pressure is low by even just a few pounds the front end will feel unstable. I generally run 38 lbs in the front and 40 in the rear. The other thing could be if your tour pack is loaded, the weight is really high which could give it a different feel. Perhaps take the tour pack off and see if you notice a difference. The other thing to consider is do you have your saddlebags filled evenly or weighted evenly. More weight on one side or the other can cause a strange feel as well. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊
Omg my 2024 streetglide do the same thing with the stick shocks , high way speed feels lose on the front and I’m getting exactly what you saying shimmy on the front so anything is there anything I can do to make that better?
Thanks for watching and commenting. Have you checked the preload on the rear shocks? I've heard some of the 2024s have come from the factory with preload set to max or no preload....which causes a bad ride. That maybe the issue. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
I've had two RG specials (2009 and 2015) and got a 2022 RG limited a year ago. Balance at low speeds and parking has been an issue from the start. The height (?) and extra 50 lbs. from the tour pack are what I think cause this. I'm converting to a detachable TP and was thinking of installing Legends 12 inch to lower it a bit to match the ride of my old RG. It came with 13-inch shocks. Is that a bad idea since Harley built it with 13" shocks?
Thanks for watching and commenting. If you go with the 13" Legends, you actually set the preload so the bike with you on it sits at 12 inches. Mine with me on...right at 12 inch center bolt to center bolt. When I'm off it the bike sits at 12.5 inches. I'd go 13s to get a better ride....about 1 inch more travel in the shock. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊
Thanks for watching and commenting. The rear shocks have everything you need to install. The front cartridges do not include fork oil and it's always good to replace the fork seals when changing these out. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊👍✌️
I have a 21 Roadglide with the Legend 13 in rear and the axeo 21 in the front. Every so often when I hit a bump I get a clack noise in the front. Have you experienced that?
Thanks Todd for watching. I have not noticed any odd noises from the suspension since I've had it on. Sometimes the spring on the kick stand gets loose and you may hear it bang when you hit a bump. May check that to rule it out. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
I made a HUGE MISTAKE with the Legend Suspension. I cover several mistakes I made and that others have made so that you can avoid making these same mistakes with a Legend Suspension. Thanks for watching, liking, commenting, and sharing this video with others. If you have not yet subscribed to the channel, I would be honored if you would consider doing so. Have a great day and ride safe. Rick
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GREAT VIDEO! I TOO PUT JUST THE STANDARD LEGENDS ON THE REAR OF MY 2017 ROAD GLIDE SPECIAL. THE PROBLEM IS MY BIKE AT SPEEDS ABOVE 70 MPH WILL START SWAYING A BIT LIKE RIDING ON STEEL GRATING. DID YOURS DO THE SAME TILL REPLACING THE FRONT WITH LEGENDS?
First, thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate the very kind words. As for your question, before putting on the front Axeos, mine felt unstable in the front end when at higher speeds going through curves, the front end would shake, shimmy or sway a bit. Once, I was going straight, no problem. I at times was a bit unnerving. However, now that I have the front and rears on...goes down the road straight or in curves like it's on rails. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
@@HDVIBE OH I SUB'D AFTER WATCHING THIS VIDEO BECAUSE IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. I CANT STAND SEEING REVIEWS OF PRODUCTS AND THESE GOOFBALLS WILL SHOW THEIR NEW HEADLIGHT IN A GARAGE OF HOW BRIGHT IT IS. SO THANKS FOR THE REPLY!
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Love your vids heaps helpful as I run legend front and rear and setup is so important to get real value outta these, just a shame we pay so much for a bike that should already have something decent on it for what it is and does.
That is correct. The Touring ST models have 13 inch shocks in the rear. Thanks for watching and commenting. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
@@HDVIBECan I ask what position you set your front at? I put mine on 1 and have loved it but am now think of going to 2 as it has now settled in after about 10 months and seems a little firmer?
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Revo or Revo A in the back?....Nevermind. I watched your install video of the Revo shocks. Do you like the Revo shocks or do you wish you went with the more adjustable Revo A?
@michaelbucci9196 I find the Revos do a good job. Rebound on the Revo is basically a 3 setting on the Revo A. So you can save some $$$ by going Revo and still get a great ride.
Many motorcyclists make this mistake. You only change the setup of the spring/damping on one axis. But that's not right, because the entire vehicle has to be considered in the chassis setup. Longer shock absorbers not only affect the ground clearance, they also change the caster and thus also have an influence on the riding stability and handling of the motorcycle. There are even more mistakes that you are only too happy to make: The other air filter, which is supposed to deliver more power - without adjusting the timing and the exhaust, this is almost hopeless or only a suboptimal result to be expected. A intake and exhaust systems are also matched to each other for optimal results. And for this purpose, an adjustment of the mixture and, if necessary, the control times must also be taken into account. Everything else follows the principle of hope. For this reason (to have optimally matched front and rear) Wilbers offers its Nivomat suspension with the matching spring and the corresponding oil for the fork. The system isn't really cheap, but it's very good and automatically adaptive. It doesn't get any more comfortable than this.
Thanks Duke for watching and for the great input. I have heard great reviews on Wilbers. Maybe that will be an option when I'm ready to change out suspension on the 2021 CVO or the 2023 ST. Thanks for your support to the channel and ride safe. 👍✌️👊
@@HDVIBE Thank you for your kind reply. I have already reacted to your videos, because I appreciate the content and the type of presentation - factual and thoughtful. As a viewer from Germany, I find information about HD motorcycles from enthusiasts like you very interesting. As an automotive technician, I can understand your recommendations and also underline the pleading: Guys, please take a look at the overall system, don't do things by halves.
@@HDVIBE If I may mention this here: I find it really shameful on the part of the Motor Company that they do not install really good suspensions in the top models of the Tourer class from the factory. Since I also ride a Ducati SBK, have ridden various other motorcycles as well, all of which had much better suspensions than HD installed in series, I sometimes seriously wonder how long HD thinks they only let themselves be paid for the name. The consumer will take a much closer look at what he is getting for his hard-earned money with the general price increase. He will think twice about spending so much on an HD if he also has to invest a lot to bring the motorcycle up to an adequate technical level. Even the PanAm has a better chassis and also Ride Height Control, why isn't there something like that for the RGS/SGS? A great chassis simply belongs in such tourers. As Standard.
@duke6321 Your comments are on point. The suspension technology on the touring bikes is very old and needs a refresh. Hopefully we will see something soon in this area from the motor company. 👍
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Thanks for watching and commenting. I've not heard of Webbers. I have heard of Wilbers. While I don't have first hand experience with Wilbers or Ohlins, they are great as are the Legends. Most any high quality suspension system is going to be a huge improvement over stock. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
Its well known that the Axeo front suspension is WAY to stiff, both in preload and damping. When nearly everyone that sets preload at 1 finds it too firm, and 2 and 3 are completely useless, there is a clear problem with the cartridges. Go elsewhere.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I have mine set on the lowest preload and it works well for me. They did recently come out with comfort front cartridges. I debated going that route but stayed with the regular cartridges. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
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First mistake you used legends suspension. Ohlins is the absolute best in suspension bar none. Every bike that races on a track Harley and Indian sport bikes all use ohlins.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate the input. I've only ridden stock and Legends. Legends are a great upgrade over stock. I'm sure others are great as well and perhaps better. Glad you have found the best for your ride. Ride safe and enjoy. 👊✌️👍
@ryanr4181 Thanks for watching and commenting. Man that's too bad. I've been very happy with my Legends. The bike rides like it's on rails after doing the front and back. I'm courious if you did front and rear or just rear? If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
Thanks for watching and commenting. That is a good point but unfortunately we all know it's not when we make the purchase. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
Sir great information video. Harley shocks suck big time !!!!!!!!!!! I replaced my front and rear with suspension technology, and I can say WOW !!!!!! now I have a great ride.
So glad I saw this video, I just upgraded my bars to 12" and replaced my rear suspension on my 2014 SGS with the Legend Revo rear shocks and yes it is like night and day vs the Harley stock suspension but now I am feeling the "loose" front end that you describe. It looks like I am going to have to upgrade the front as well. Those 2 upgrades were not cheap but knowing that my ride will be that much better by replacing the front end then it's money well spent IMO. I appreciate the content you put out here so that people can be better informed.
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I just tried to have suspension upgraded, front and rear. Everybody swears this is the first upgrade everybody should do. I got the front installed (Fox HD cartridges), but the rear became an issue. I bought the HD IFP-QSR 13" FOX shocks, but when installed the axle nut and swingarm would hit the exhaust. Local HD dealer was dong the install. So may end up swapping out the 13" Fox shocks for the 12" Fox versions instead. Right now went back to stock 12" shocks for now. But 12" Fox shocks still should be much better than stock on the rear, but was hoping to goto the 13" shocks so I can get the extra travel. But just a warning for some that you may have to adjust in some way for many of the 4 1/2" pipes we all tend to use if you go with 13" shocks. Local dealer mentioned some pipes seem to be ok, some aren't. Love to hear form others watching ways in which they get around some of these issues or if you ran into issues like this. Heard some hammered their pipes creating more indentications to make it work. Or perhaps some sort of spacer or something else. Open for suggestions.
Thanks Gerry for watching and commenting. I have 4.5" Tab and Rineharts that I have run with 13" Legends and not issues hitting the axle nut. I have heard some have had issues with Khromewerks 4.5 inch slip ons. That has been my experience. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
I have legends on my SG and RK. Absolutely love them. On the RK I only have them on the rear and can definitely feel the crappy front end. I use this mainly as my practice bike so the front shocks are on the back burner. Putting the 13" legends on the rear though brought the bike up and I'm not scraping nearly as much. You can never go wrong with legends. Great video brother
Thanks Joe for watching and commenting. I was shocked once I got the front Axeos put on as to how much the ride improved. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍
I have Legends Suspension on the back of my street glide sp. Two yrs. ago I was on a road trip from Ohio to California. About half way there I noticed the back of my bike was feeling a bit different. My first thought was low tire pressure. I checked it and it was a bit low so I added a couple of pounds of air hoping that would do the trick. Well it didn't. Got to California and rode up the PCH (Pacific Coast Hwy) and stopped at a Harley dealer hoping they would take a look at it. Well with my luck they couldn't (or wouldn't) and they said Legends h.q. is in Sturgis. So I headed there. Got there a few mins before they closed. One guy was leaving and he came over to me asking if everything was ok. I explained my situation and went back into the shop. A minute later he came out with a coworker. They said they couldn't do anything at the moment but come back tomorrow when we open and they would take a look. I came back the next day and they got me right in. One of the rear shocks had failed. About two hrs latter I was good to go and on the road. No charge because of a lifetime warranty. My next bike will definitely have Legends (front and back).
Thanks Scott for sharing that story. It's good to know that the warranty is truly honored. So far I haven't had any issues and wow what a great ride with the front and rear system. 👍✌️👊
I had the Revo A 13 s on my 2018 RGS for about 3 years and loved them but being short-legged and getting older I just put on the 12-inch heavy duty, I didn't notice much of a difference so far. Legends makes a great product
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Yup, 2020 SGS. I installed the 13” Revo A’s out back and stock up front. I’m about 240 and my girls 110. I often feel like the front end is a little squirrelly on me. Looks like I have a new winter project ahead of me now. Thank you for the excellent video/advice.
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I mounted a pair of Revo Arc shocks on my FXR4 and it was amazing. Set the preload according to the instructions and adjust the clickers to get the ride you want. Now the front end feels horrible. If I had the money, I would change front and rear at the same time. Raising the rear of the bike an inch does make the handling a little quicker but that will level out when I do the forks.
thanks for the video
Thanks for watching and commenting. When I put the front on, I was amazed at the improvement in the ride as I stated in the video. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
I just switched from a 22 SGST to a 13 SG. The 22 had the Progressive remote reservoir rear shocks. That bike just felt more planted to the road. I had much more confidence cornering. I've only put a few miles on the 13 so far (it has Ledgend suspension in the rear guessing nothing done to the front) but that loose front end feel was instant! Very glad I found this video. I have seen a few of your other videos. But obviously this one was well worth the watch.
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Having Legends in the rear and front makes a huge difference for sure. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
I have Street Glide 2013 i change for Legend Revo A .I dont see much difference where it was rough it still rough. I've try different setting no luck. I change for Legend Revo A 12 inch. The stock we're 11 inch followed the instructions on paper and on TH-cam. Any suggestions. Thanks
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That’s a thumbs up from me. I bought my bike used with Legends on the back. I really enjoy them and customer service warranty procedure is amazing!
Thank you for doing a video on these. So many people say Ohlins are the best, but is that from experience or marketing? IMO, anything is better than stock Harley shocks!
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I ride a 2008 Road King classic and self-installed the 13-inch Legend Revo a rear shocks. I definitely feel an improvement in going over small bumps. I too have experienced the wiggle feeling coming from the front because those are still stock suspension. So I want to get the axio legend front suspension and decided I'm going to go with the more expensive type for touring as opposed to performance.
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Your spot on rick by saying change both front and rear shocks to get the best ride,definitely gotta look at the fine print and order the right weight ratio that gonna be on your bike,thinking I’m gonna go with fox heavy duty on mine because its a limited and we put a lot of luggage on it going on trips👍👍
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Your correct about the rears out performing the front end after legends installation. I did the rears and it only took a few decent rides on different conditions of roads. I had to go and do the fronts also. If you're mechanically inclined it's a pretty easy installation. I have did a few sets of fronts & rears now
Thanks again for the comment. I probably would have installed the frint myself but my local HD dealer had a special which was basically 200 labor to do it...big discount so I let them do it. 👊✌️👍
So I had the same instability of my bike after installing a pair of remote-Ohlins. My solution was to better dial in my preload. My suspension was set too soft and felt loose at highway speeds. One I found a better setting the instability went away.
@davidt4911 Thanks for sharing your experience. Sometimes it's just finding that setting that dials it in. 👍✌️👊
I have the legend air on the back and love them! Finger tip control of my suspension in real time. Never uncomfortable again! Plus you lower them when parking and slow maneuvering to give even more control! Oh get the front upgraded as well!
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Great info, I plan on getting Legends and would have bought the 12. I already have the Axio’s in the front and love them.
Thanks Mike for watching and commenting. The complete set up is awesome. 👊👍✌️
Legends has several of their own videos to help pick what's right to choose from and how to set them up correctly. I love my 13 inch heavy duty Revo A on my 21 SG,im about 275lbs with a tour pack and my girlfriend were speaking over 500lbs. It rides great solo without tour pack or 2 up with tour pack. I set my sag to 1 inch and forget it no matter what rides along with me. Very comfortable. Probably going with Ohlins on the front though if you ever watch the guy doing a compare to 1 another with the oil valve can be adjusted with Ohlins. Legends you have to take it completely apart. Keep rubber the side down.
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I have 13 Progressive 444. Had them put on in Sturgis by the Progressive dealer. Great upgrade!
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Thanks, i'm looking at putting the 444's on my RGU.
I have Legends 13” on my Street Glide, and 13” Pro Action shocks on my Road Glide. The Pro Action shocks ride like a cloud, and also out handle the Legends by a long shot. The Pro Actions handle both solo and two-up perfectly. The Legends when set up for solo, will bottom badly when two-up, and when set for two-up they ride like a 2x4 when solo. There are many better options than Legends.
Thanks for sharing thar info. I appreciate the perspective. ✌️👊👍
Glad you had success with your Legend shocks. I purchased the Legend air shocks and had nothing but trouble with them. Warranted them 2X and gave up. They refused to send new ones. Maybe they knew they would also be Chinese junk.
Thanks for watching and commenting. So far the REVOs and Axeo cartridges have been all good. Bern running the Revos for over 3 years. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
I weigh 242 lbs. and left my front Axio at 0 preload and fully loaded with my wife I have never bottomed out and it feels nice and tight on the canyons, and brake dive on the twisties is less that stock, my next upgrade will be to switch the front end to GP Suspension fully adjustable front cartridge kit.
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Great video Rick. I went with legend front and rear when I got my 19mako. Night and day difference. This was a good one.
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I was told to set the pre load at 12 inches with riders weight on the bike on a 13 inch shock. That's how I set my set up standard springs
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Great video Rick, I was just about to pull the trigger for just the rear on my 20 RG, totally going to do the front now.
Thanks John for watching and commenting. Running the entire set up front and back is a huge improvement. If you have the budget, I'd definitely suggest doing the rear and front. Thanks for your support to the channel and ride safe. 👍✌️👊
If ya want the Cadillac suspension, go with Wilbers. I am saving up right now to get them. Everything I can find on them basically says they are the Cadillac suspension for Harleys. That's what I want out of my bike, comfort with amazing handling. Does anyone on here have Wilbers? I'd like to hear your viewpoint as well.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I have heard good things about Wilbers. Go check out the Flyandride15 youtube channel. He has had wilbers on his bike for about a year or so. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊
Good video. I put 13” legends on my SG and love them. I do feel that wiggle in the front end like you mention. I’m still running the stock front suspension. I do need to get the fronts now.
Thanks Brian for watching and commenting. I noticed it on my 2015 SGS but not as much as I did on the 2021 RGS. It is an amazing ride after getting the fronts on it. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
@@HDVIBE thanks for the reply. Really enjoy your channel. Great content and always no BS. Appreciate that.
@brians1524 Thank you for the kind words. Much appreciated. ✌️
Great video!...I put Progessive suspension on my 2020 UL...I did front and rear at the same time...putting a high-end suspension on one end and leaving the stock junk on the other made no sense to me!...thanks for sharing...stay safe out there!!!😎👍🤙👍🤙🇨🇦
Thanks for watching and commenting. It is amazing how well a complete suspension system works. Ride safe and enjoy. 👊✌️👍
The amount of money needed to make these bikes ride better is insane... HD has apparently improved their suspension on the new CVO bikes. I am going to live with my stock setup even though they are not great. Good video :-)
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Catchy subject I really like it 👌 While I enjoy my rear 13” shocks and made big difference in comfort they damage my muffler on the right side due to increased length. Now I wait till they punch the hole in my pipe.
Thanks Art for watching and commenting. I'm surprised a 13 inch shock hits the exhaust. I've not had that problem at all on either the 2015 Street Glide Special or the Road Glide Special. Ride safe and enjoy. 👊✌️👍
Take a small ballpeen hammer and make a dimple where it's rubbing some aftermarket mufflers don't have the ones that factory mufflers do I think that it's maybe even suggested in the instructions
@ByronConley-cs3nf good suggestion.
@@HDVIBE I have KW mufflers they are 4.5” I believe. Seems like factory indentation in muffler is not deep enough for this combo. I compress the spring quite a bit to get to comfort zone as I adjusted for me, wife and load so maybe that's why. When I decompress the spring before tire service was done there was plenty of clearance as shock compressed easily under bike load only. If your pre load is for single rider I will see how this wouldn't be an issue. Sucks to damage $1000 pipes but at least it is hidden but bugs my mind a bit when I think about it.
@@ByronConley-cs3nf not bad idea at all.
First of all I want to thank you for the feedback on this very important suspension issue that you have given in your video. On the other hand, I want to ask you in your opinion what is the best solution to prevent the wheels damage, especially the front one, from being damaged by falling into bumps; I am thinking of replacing the original 19-inch front RIN that my 2022 Street Glide Special comes with an 18-inch one with a fat 180/55 R18 tire and also putting a front suspension on it, Legend, AXEO Comfort and also replacing the rear suspension with some 13-inch REVO-A shock absorbers, as you suggested in your video, my question for you would be if, based on your experience, do you think that with these improvements I will obtain a better driving experience and reduce the chances of damaging my wheels again? I live in Mexico and the roads in my country are not in very good condition like in the United States in Canada. thanks for your feedback and all the best!
Thanks for watching and commenting. I think you are definitely making some good upgrades and changes. Unfortunately no suspension or tire can be an absolute solution to prevent damage from large pot holes in the road. I think the best you can do is make the changes to the bike as you mentioned and ride very diligently and doing your best to avoid big pot holes in the road. All the best and thank you for your support to the channel. Ride safe and enjoy. 👊👍✌️
100% ! These bikes work way better in the twisties with a 13”, they just sit level and handle much better.
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So gotta ask why 13 over 12 is the travel really that much of a difference? I have a rks and was going to add the revo 12’s
Thanks for watching and commenting. The 13s give you more travel. You set the preload with you on it at 12 inch center bolt to bolt. If you get 12s, you set them at 11 1/2 center bolt to bolt. So if you go 12s it will actually sit lower than stock. Hope that helps. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Ride safe and enjoy. ✌️👊👍
I added the rear revo an and front axeo on my 22 sgs and king tour pack now I feel the front seeems loose? Any idea why?
Thanks for watching and commenting. That is interesting to hear. One thing I've noticed in the past is if the front tire pressure is low by even just a few pounds the front end will feel unstable. I generally run 38 lbs in the front and 40 in the rear. The other thing could be if your tour pack is loaded, the weight is really high which could give it a different feel. Perhaps take the tour pack off and see if you notice a difference. The other thing to consider is do you have your saddlebags filled evenly or weighted evenly. More weight on one side or the other can cause a strange feel as well. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊
I got them front and back. Rock solid..but I'm gonna take the back off and go iride..
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Omg my 2024 streetglide do the same thing with the stick shocks , high way speed feels lose on the front and I’m getting exactly what you saying shimmy on the front so anything is there anything I can do to make that better?
Thanks for watching and commenting. Have you checked the preload on the rear shocks? I've heard some of the 2024s have come from the factory with preload set to max or no preload....which causes a bad ride. That maybe the issue. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
I've had two RG specials (2009 and 2015) and got a 2022 RG limited a year ago. Balance at low speeds and parking has been an issue from the start. The height (?) and extra 50 lbs. from the tour pack are what I think cause this. I'm converting to a detachable TP and was thinking of installing Legends 12 inch to lower it a bit to match the ride of my old RG. It came with 13-inch shocks. Is that a bad idea since Harley built it with 13" shocks?
Thanks for watching and commenting. If you go with the 13" Legends, you actually set the preload so the bike with you on it sits at 12 inches. Mine with me on...right at 12 inch center bolt to center bolt. When I'm off it the bike sits at 12.5 inches. I'd go 13s to get a better ride....about 1 inch more travel in the shock. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👍👊
It's coming full kit in the box? or I will need to buy some parts
Thank you..
My bike road king flhr model 2000
Thanks for watching and commenting. The rear shocks have everything you need to install. The front cartridges do not include fork oil and it's always good to replace the fork seals when changing these out. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊👍✌️
I have a 21 Roadglide with the Legend 13 in rear and the axeo 21 in the front. Every so often when I hit a bump I get a clack noise in the front. Have you experienced that?
Thanks Todd for watching. I have not noticed any odd noises from the suspension since I've had it on. Sometimes the spring on the kick stand gets loose and you may hear it bang when you hit a bump. May check that to rule it out. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
I made a HUGE MISTAKE with the Legend Suspension. I cover several mistakes I made and that others have made so that you can avoid making these same mistakes with a Legend Suspension.
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Rick
Another very helpful video. Fantastic job, Rick.
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Note that if you have a Road King, the front cartridges are to stiff. You need the additional weight of the fairing to get in to the sweet spot
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GREAT VIDEO! I TOO PUT JUST THE STANDARD LEGENDS ON THE REAR OF MY 2017 ROAD GLIDE SPECIAL. THE PROBLEM IS MY BIKE AT SPEEDS ABOVE 70 MPH WILL START SWAYING A BIT LIKE RIDING ON STEEL GRATING. DID YOURS DO THE SAME TILL REPLACING THE FRONT WITH LEGENDS?
First, thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate the very kind words. As for your question, before putting on the front Axeos, mine felt unstable in the front end when at higher speeds going through curves, the front end would shake, shimmy or sway a bit. Once, I was going straight, no problem. I at times was a bit unnerving. However, now that I have the front and rears on...goes down the road straight or in curves like it's on rails. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
@@HDVIBE OH I SUB'D AFTER WATCHING THIS VIDEO BECAUSE IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. I CANT STAND SEEING REVIEWS OF PRODUCTS AND THESE GOOFBALLS WILL SHOW THEIR NEW HEADLIGHT IN A GARAGE OF HOW BRIGHT IT IS. SO THANKS FOR THE REPLY!
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Great info. You did a nice job explaining suspension setup
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I am glad you did this video. I think its time to upgrade my suspension.
Thanks for watching brother. Upgraded suspension is a game changer. Ride safe and enjoy. 👊✌️👍
Subscribed! Legend coming soon to the rear of my 22 RGS 👍
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Love your vids heaps helpful as I run legend front and rear and setup is so important to get real value outta these, just a shame we pay so much for a bike that should already have something decent on it for what it is and does.
That is correct. The Touring ST models have 13 inch shocks in the rear. Thanks for watching and commenting. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
@@HDVIBEmy apologies I have rewatched it and was making changes to my comment as you replied back sorry. 👍
No worries. 👍
@@HDVIBECan I ask what position you set your front at? I put mine on 1 and have loved it but am now think of going to 2 as it has now settled in after about 10 months and seems a little firmer?
@ootac my front is set at zero.
Sometimes I feel like bigger bumps jolt my back legends are on the back not in the front, but at times they hit hard in the back
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Revo or Revo A in the back?....Nevermind. I watched your install video of the Revo shocks. Do you like the Revo shocks or do you wish you went with the more adjustable Revo A?
Thanks for watching...I run the Revos in the back.
Do you wish you went with the REVO A or are the REVO shocks adequate?@@HDVIBE
@michaelbucci9196 I find the Revos do a good job. Rebound on the Revo is basically a 3 setting on the Revo A. So you can save some $$$ by going Revo and still get a great ride.
Thanks@@HDVIBE
@michaelbucci9196 👍
Many motorcyclists make this mistake. You only change the setup of the spring/damping on one axis. But that's not right, because the entire vehicle has to be considered in the chassis setup. Longer shock absorbers not only affect the ground clearance, they also change the caster and thus also have an influence on the riding stability and handling of the motorcycle. There are even more mistakes that you are only too happy to make: The other air filter, which is supposed to deliver more power - without adjusting the timing and the exhaust, this is almost hopeless or only a suboptimal result to be expected. A intake and exhaust systems are also matched to each other for optimal results. And for this purpose, an adjustment of the mixture and, if necessary, the control times must also be taken into account. Everything else follows the principle of hope.
For this reason (to have optimally matched front and rear) Wilbers offers its Nivomat suspension with the matching spring and the corresponding oil for the fork. The system isn't really cheap, but it's very good and automatically adaptive. It doesn't get any more comfortable than this.
Thanks Duke for watching and for the great input. I have heard great reviews on Wilbers. Maybe that will be an option when I'm ready to change out suspension on the 2021 CVO or the 2023 ST. Thanks for your support to the channel and ride safe. 👍✌️👊
@@HDVIBE Thank you for your kind reply. I have already reacted to your videos, because I appreciate the content and the type of presentation - factual and thoughtful. As a viewer from Germany, I find information about HD motorcycles from enthusiasts like you very interesting. As an automotive technician, I can understand your recommendations and also underline the pleading: Guys, please take a look at the overall system, don't do things by halves.
@duke6321 Thank you again. I appreciate your kind words.👍
@@HDVIBE If I may mention this here: I find it really shameful on the part of the Motor Company that they do not install really good suspensions in the top models of the Tourer class from the factory. Since I also ride a Ducati SBK, have ridden various other motorcycles as well, all of which had much better suspensions than HD installed in series, I sometimes seriously wonder how long HD thinks they only let themselves be paid for the name. The consumer will take a much closer look at what he is getting for his hard-earned money with the general price increase. He will think twice about spending so much on an HD if he also has to invest a lot to bring the motorcycle up to an adequate technical level. Even the PanAm has a better chassis and also Ride Height Control, why isn't there something like that for the RGS/SGS? A great chassis simply belongs in such tourers. As Standard.
@duke6321 Your comments are on point. The suspension technology on the touring bikes is very old and needs a refresh. Hopefully we will see something soon in this area from the motor company. 👍
very very very useful and informative thank you much appreciated
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What about Webbers vs. Legends or is Ohlins the best?
Thanks for watching and commenting. I've not heard of Webbers. I have heard of Wilbers. While I don't have first hand experience with Wilbers or Ohlins, they are great as are the Legends. Most any high quality suspension system is going to be a huge improvement over stock. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
@@HDVIBE sorry yes Wilbers is what I meant. Thanks for the response
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Good explainations, Rick.
Thanks Tom. 👍✌️👊
Thanks for sharing
Thanks Larry for watching and commenting. Ride safe and enjoy. 👊👍✌️
Now legend has "comfort" front suspension. 😮
Correct. I considered them for the RGS, but, decided to stick with the Axeos that have been on the market for years. 👊👍✌️
Its well known that the Axeo front suspension is WAY to stiff, both in preload and damping. When nearly everyone that sets preload at 1 finds it too firm, and 2 and 3 are completely useless, there is a clear problem with the cartridges. Go elsewhere.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I have mine set on the lowest preload and it works well for me. They did recently come out with comfort front cartridges. I debated going that route but stayed with the regular cartridges. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
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The only people that like Legends are those that have never had Ohlins
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I didn’t make the mistake I bought suspension technology shocks
Thanks for watching and commenting Lonnie. That is a great system as well. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
First mistake you used legends suspension. Ohlins is the absolute best in suspension bar none. Every bike that races on a track Harley and Indian sport bikes all use ohlins.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I appreciate the input. I've only ridden stock and Legends. Legends are a great upgrade over stock. I'm sure others are great as well and perhaps better. Glad you have found the best for your ride. Ride safe and enjoy. 👊✌️👍
I heard super shox are better I don't know but I bought legend and they SUCK I don't know what to buy I have to switch them
@ryanr4181 Thanks for watching and commenting. Man that's too bad. I've been very happy with my Legends. The bike rides like it's on rails after doing the front and back. I'm courious if you did front and rear or just rear? If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. ✌️👊👍
@@ryanr4181 ohlins. They have forgotten more about suspension than most other companies know. It’s not even close
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If a Harley’s suspension was as good as it should be, there would be no need to upgrade.
Thanks for watching and commenting. That is a good point but unfortunately we all know it's not when we make the purchase. If you are already a subscriber to the channel...thank you. If you haven't yet subscribed to the channel I'd be honored if you'd consider doing so. Thanks for your support and ride safe. 👊✌️👍
Sir great information video. Harley shocks suck big time !!!!!!!!!!! I replaced my front and rear with suspension technology, and I can say WOW !!!!!! now I have a great ride.
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