The House Always Wins?! Driver Between A Hard Place & A Rock
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มิ.ย. 2024
- Sergio interviews Mike, an Uber & Lyft driver who used to be a cab driver. Mike thought, if you can't beat them then join them and he has had some issues when driving. See his story on today's episode of Behind The Wheel.
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This is an Idea to you Sergio:
You can become an Uber Union President, people will be more than happy to get it off the ground and running, imagine how many thousand will join it.
If 10,000 join it.
At 50 dollar at month membership that is 500,000 in a month and imagine getting organized and going on strike against Uber because they are thieves.
Imagine a strike in a major Holiday.
You say Uber has the power, no they don't, drivers have the power but ONLY if they are Organized, you can go on a strike and organize the pick up and collect the money straight from the Customer and pay the driver, of course you explain the situation to the customer.
So if Uber shoots down the app because of the strike you give the service directly to the customer.
You see ? There is a way to fight back !!
But you need to get organized !! And a strike in a major holiday will teach those Bro-Tech MF spoiled rats that the one who does the sacrifice is the Drivers !!
@guaso19661 thanks for the comment
I have so much bs on the ride share company’s but it doesn’t matter if you busy theme and actually force the issue maybe the get slapped with a fine you think they care look how much they made before having to pay the fine you will never get the drivers organized to boycot and not work because too many people are desperate for peanuts
Here’s a good one for you. Do you know in Phoenix that if you book a ride through Uber and it’s more than a five minute wait, they offer you the option of taking a whammo for the same price isn’t this funny they’re trying to get people comfortable with taking the autonomous vehicles and Uber and Google being in bed together or promoting it
Good interview Sergio but you forgot to ask him how much the yellow cab company use to charge him back then or now to connect him with passangers and how much money he was making back then per day. The yellow cabs are still in business and making good money even this day with this 2 companies destroying the prices and the industry. Sometimes it's not the company is the CEOs fault and how he decides to manage the company cause before this CEO we had a great CEO and he was adjusting to make the company better and to pay the drivers better he implemented the surges and also the 3 strike bonuses back then 12 times a day and paying back then $15, $17, 18 and $21 dollars per bonuses but as soon as they new guy came in he just started cutting everything on every body from our surges to our promotions in order for him to make more money for the company and secure his raise salary every year and his bonuses this are the new generation of CEOs who don't care about the companies well beings and it's employees reputation and culture this guy has set up a bad culture for this whole company from drivers complaining and protesting all the time to passangers complaining of how much money Uber is charging them for the same rides this company is in a big messed and dying year by year to keep their drivers because of not having a good strategy or trying to do a honest business with their drivers this year they are going to loose thousands of drivers because of their dishonest practices because drivers know that they can make the whole fare for themselves working for other taxi companies or other transportation companies so they definitely not gonna stay destroying their cars and health to continue doing Uber and been broke all the time not even making $1200 or $1500 dollars a week that is what most drivers are making working for other transportation companies.
@@user-km4gm6kb6s The answer is $300 a week. That money covered royalties and commercial insurance. With Uber they're taking an average of about 51% I know they fluctuate that price to more but let's just say they're taking 50% of what I'm making. I roughly make $1,400 a week through these companies so that means I'm probably paying out roughly $1,400 a week to Uber which is way more than I used to spend running my business. Every time I ask my customers how much they're paying usually it's between 50 and 80% through Uber and Lyft
The thing most people don’t understand: it’s in Uber and Lyft best interest to keep you poor and desperate. That’s how they make sure that ALL the full time drivers are online at least 60-70 hours a week. And that for each passenger there are at least 10 available drivers. So if someone don’t accept the trip, someone else will. As long that there are so many drivers, it’ll never change. It will only get worse.
Bingo. Any taxi industry markets will cap the market and compete in service.
absolutely things change too many chiefs not enough Indians always too many drivers and you’re only getting paid $.60 a mile you have to readjust the miles in 6,000,000 immigrants are not gonna stop driving. They love it they used to make $50 a day now they’re making $200 a day, yeah people are gonna work for peanuts I myself I don’t work for Uber Uber works for me are use their app to my advantage I take people are gonna tip me very good and I also are we doing reserved an opportunity the repaying a minimum of $20 a ride dollar a minute and the dollar amount and I all smiles
@@AppRidesdon’t put the blame on the immigrants , I am an immigrant my self I can can assure you that I’m not taking all the trash Uber and Lyft sent , in fact I do promote a lot of cherry-picking, right now I barely make $50 a day just for food and put gas I my car so not all immigrants are taking crap , sure there thousands of drivers and I’m sure a lot of them do , there are also a lot f retirees and newbies on the road that are taking I’ll the crap fro. Uber and Lyft and that’s is one of the biggest problems that no body talk about
We have to stars found what the drivers in the Dominican Republic are doing , we have to do things different , don’t expect Uber and Lyft to make it better for us cause it’s never gonna happen
@@akcarlosh292 finally somebody with the truth, the truth will set you free
I gave a ride new years eve for 19 miles. Lyft paid 15$ and change. Here's the kicker, lyft charged the rider 70..let that sink in.
I ask most of my riders what they paid for the ride. When I I form them of how little I actually got; most riders are shocked and dismayed by how little the driver earns. I also tell them about WRIDZ. It's a much better option for both riders and drivers.
Screwber and GRYFT do not care about drivers.
Why did you accept a ride that paid that little on New Year’s Eve?
You chose to do a ride for $15 and were not obligated, let that sink in.
@JasRog1026 what bothers me is what they charged the rider. The difference between rider and driver pay.. It depends on a person ethics sense of fairness. If I was an owner of a company, that disparity would bother bother me..well there wouldn't be that disparity...just because they can doesn't make just and fair.
@@jasonlazar6402yeah unfortunately that's what these companies do. Try to exploit the drivers to take dirt money to transport people while they take as much as they can
For the first time Thursday in I don't know how long, I took a trip for $3.31. I had already had two dead hours, a shared ride I had to cancel on because they weren't ready and I was blocking traffic, and had barely started my day. You can't really work in some areas anymore because every single street has 15 parked drivers with apps on. The customer paid $7.94. This pickup was in the West Hollywood area. 1.5 miles of stop signs and lights. 8 mins 19 secs. I immortalize Jan 4 2024 as the worst day I ever drove. Garbage is now what we're reduced as drivers to while they laugh from the glass castles. Mike, you're awesome. I also enjoy the customer interactions. The minute micromanaging is the crazy horrible part of it.
Mike B is 100% OBJECTIVELY correct. Especially about how the companies have a choke hold on city governments. The service is too ingratiated in the transportation system that people rely on it daily. As a result, the city officials risk losing their constituency if they push back on the platforms at punitive levels. The Rideshare Guy would be doing the driver community a bigger service by having articulate and intelligent people like Mike B on more frequently instead of intellectually dishonest gig-tubers like their "contributors".
you want to become a contributor? better yet, start your own channel, I will subscribe! Sure hope you still are not driving, would not want to be a pax in your car! If you are not driving which you should not, you should definitely lurk around and watch content on a channel that you do not like, big man on the internet
Are you a lawyer?
The government is CORRUPT, doesn’t enforce the existing laws. Uber and Lyft CEOs are felons.
Sherman Act, Section 1 (15 U.S.C. § 1). Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, shall be deemed guilty of a felony ..
So far this is the best interview of this show. So true.
disagree, you must be new to the channel, we put out balanced content, that is the reason to our success, thanks
@@sergioSMTMC1 The reason for your success has more to do with your media outreach than your "advocacy".
@@SmellMy_Face your opinion many other channels for you to visit, thanks
@@sergioSMTMC1 Fartbag
I can relate personally to everything he’s said. The money used to be really good. The pay now feels insulting. This has led me to hang it up. Many other drivers I know are also moving on to other opportunities. They aren’t charging enough to pay drivers appropriately it seems in many cases.
Best of luck to you Mike. Wishing you nothing but the best with your business. Keep fighting and you will make it!!!!
Thank you! I really appreciate it. Life is a journey and all I can do is spread the truth while trying to grow as an individual and live my life and my American dream. But at the end of the day the last thing I have to say is "working for less than minimum wage with full operating expense is not the American dream"
That’s why they want all the new drivers,because when they figure the scam they quit
Not only that……some customers you do pick up may give you the driver a hard time. That hasn’t been factored in.
Massively crushed my spirit as a driver when...support advised i accept "all types of opportunities", so I slid the button to accept all trips and received an offer for a $2 delivery 15mins including a tip that may or may not be fruitful 😮
This is why I’m working on boosting and promoting my own business and focusing on myself and my family now. Rideshare nearly tore my life apart with all the cuts. Almost impossible to have work/family balance and maintain healthy relationships/marriage doing the job now. It was good while it lasted…..then they flipped the script…..
We have to flip it back! 🙏😇
@@robinrienerth6521 I started full of steam when I noticed a change in the winds before the bottom started falling out. I tried to unite drivers in my area and get people involved. It became harder and harder as we were inundated with new drivers. It was hard to communicate with many of them due to language barriers. Others were just unapproachable. I have pulled myself back to save myself, and my household. I will always advocate and may step back in when the right opportunities arise…. I urge everyone who has a family to support to remember them and how what you do affects them. It’s hard being away from family. Especially hard on them.
I believe there is a future and there will always be a demand for a service like rideshare. But I think many changes will have to come about to make it sustainable.
The fares are way too low. This service was designed to be a convenience and a luxury. Rideshare isn’t a bus service, or public/gov transportation, nor is it non emergency medical transportation. There are other entities that fulfill those roles.
Many of us veteran drivers have nicer vehicles. Most drivers I know are in SUVs or minivans, or very nice cars. We should be getting paid a premium for the rides we do.
I believe the rideshare companies have built a sense of entitlement with some of the riders with these low fares and how they have treated drivers. This was never originally intended to be the “money saver” option. Rideshare was a premium service when it started. They went cheap and subsidized rides to gain market share. In the process the stabbed drivers in the back and continuously lowered the bar. In the end they no longer worry about quality. They only worry about $1. That’s why Uber X is their #1 product.
If riders want cheap rides, they can take the bus, ride a bike, or one of those scooters or whatever. If they want to bring the buffet with them and pack a U-Haul of stuff with them, they have other services that fulfill those needs too…
There are many safety and security issues that need to be addressed as well.
I don’t have all the answers. But many in our community of drivers have proposed great ideas.
I believe the companies and the drivers could have a lot to benefit from if they would prioritize treating us as their partners and independent contractor service providers…. All this manipulation and shady tactics need to be stopped and replaced with communication and accountability.
No independent contractors or subcontractors in any other industry are treated the way they have been treating drivers……
No one has to walk away and quit this completely though. If you have other opportunities or options put them in play. Let this sit on the bench for a little while.
I can’t guarantee what will happen or what changes will come about or at what time frame. But I can guarantee that I am fully committed and will always be there to support, advocate and will participate in any grassroots movements or efforts to facilitate improvements in the form of better pay and working conditions for gig workers and drivers.
The reason taxi cab fares are high is because they charge per mile. But Uber and Lyft have no fare policy.
It's a fare policy but its hidden behind an algorithm. Apparently it sets its own prices. I don't believe it.
I am driving in Illinois, state law states that if you supply ANYTHING (insurance) to a person who is an independent contractor, they AUTOMATICALLY become employees. So, how are rideshare companies getting away with this?
Bingo. Let us drivers dictate price and let us buy insurance rates. Or a subscription to pay them insurance
@@williamerazo3921 I'll tell you one thing, any rideshare company that requires a subscription better not have any type of dispatch system. If I'm paying for access to riders I expect to have access to ALL riders, not just the ones the company decides to offer me.
They are not they get sued all the time. Just wait for the $100 dollar payout 3 years from now. Door dash actually gave me $3000 in one lawsuit a few years back. Just look out for them and apply.
Uber is a thief, they take 50-75% and all they are doing is connecting the rider with the driver 😂 this shit is crazy! I agree it’s not worth it anymore just get a day job 🤷🏻♂️.
Mike is one of the best guests I've ever seen on this channel. He truly knows his stuff and he's well-spoken. Suffice to say we as drivers need a lot more Mikes to get the message out. The most important thing he said was that this industry needs to be REGULATED.
Disagree, we put out very balanced content, you like him because you agree with him!
@@sergioSMTMC1 You absolutely do not put out balanced content. You routinely use macro-economic examples to push the narrative that Uber does not take 50% to 60% of fares. You've had people on including professors and national media experts that present demonstrably that they do and you still push that narrative. Then when someone like Mike B comes on and speaks objective truth you make snide comments like the one above. You also push costly pay day loan apps that are illegally operating in SEVERAL states. (I know because my state is litigating with Giggly). You push crooked companies for shady PPP loans like Womply. Yesterday one of your contributors, Zach, actually suggested that people sell their belongings as a means to continue working on the apps. You're crooked and two faced, Sergio. I have no respect for you.
This is exactly same in DFW area. Declining all and then forced to take garbage requests, then give up and go home
The most honest interview ever. It’s not being negative but it’s being realistic. Gig work is utter BS it’s a loss making business for any individual.
We must educate all new drivers not to get into this and not to go buy a new car
Also, the argument that Uber/Lyft drivers can do something else between getting Uber/Lyft ping will not stand in court because the drivers are required to be in standby and ready to respond to a ping within 10 seconds - this is actively working, analogous to a gas station clerk being ready to assist customers that sporadically arrive to a gas station.
Uber & Lyft cannot regulate themselves They've proved that.
Oh they absolutely can…
They just refuse to do so in a law abiding fashion is what they keep proving on a daily basis. No oversight, no regulation, no accountability leads to the disastrous situation we have found ourselves in.
Companies that are publicly traded cannot regulate themselves.
That is one of the many reasons why their business model is illegal, @Itsmattz.
Uber and Lyft have monopolized the market. Without government intervention - enforcing existing anti-monopoly laws - new companies have no chance.
According to Sherman act, Uber and Lyft crooks are guilty of a felony. Unfortunately, our government is corrupt, looks the other way, doesn’t enforce the laws.
Sherman Act, Section 1 (15 U.S.C. § 1). Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, shall be deemed guilty of a felony …
I don’t take Uber and Lyft anymore at the airport because so little pay to the driver so I order taxi instead. One plus thing I love about taxi is that most of the time 90% a suv or minivan show up unlike Uber and Lyft you have to order xl or comfort. Why order Uber and Lyft when taxi is cheaper now.
Only way to make $ is to do rides outside the app!
Either that or apply for Black level and only do Black level trips.
Or you can do rides with inside the app you just have to do schedule rides and opportunities and for the life of me I don’t know how they can pay me $20 a ride and they pay everybody else garbage go figure but I am the 100% man 100% Uber I don’t work for Uber Uber works for me
@@AppRides "Just have to do scheduled rides and opportunities"? You can't do any scheduled rides unless Uber offers them to you. And good-paying scheduled rides are scarce.
@@user-qr5sg6tb8t would love to send you some screenshots. It’s funny how people can talk about something they know nothing about in my market. I can prove you wrong my guy they send me plenty opportunities Uber they send me plenty of scheduled rides and I tell my customers to schedule their ride and immediately after they schedule it it sends me the ride. How do you like me now, so if you don’t know you better ask somebody not trying to be a smart butt but people just don’t know my market. All markets are different but thanks for the conversation.
@@user-qr5sg6tb8ttrue I agree!
The long trips 4 and 5 years ago were the best money makers, but this has completely flip flopped by this point in time. Used to be the case that because most of the distance was highway miles you got better gas economy, etc, the general efficiency in terms of finances and time was pretty optimal.
The last year and a half to 2 years though that long 50 mile trip for an hour that paid $50-$60 now only pays $25-$30 and costs $35 to perform.
The ONLY trips at this point in time for any one not providing Black level service that can even possibly be profitable to do are the short trips, regardless of type of vehicle used to perform it and driver make about 50 cents net on most of them. Better than losing $5-$10 net like what now happens with long trips, but a driver would have to cram in about 100 short trips per day just to make $50 net after expenses.
This business model is not sustainable, it is not profitable, it is not ethical, and, most importantly, it is absolutely NOT legal. That business model is the literal dictionary definition of a pyramid scheme.
The problem is that because our governmental institutions have become so rotten, so corrupt, so dysfunctional that the US government of today is smashing the records for complete and total dysfunction set by the Roman Republic at its collapse in the first century BCE, our regulatory and investigative bodies such as the FBI, the SEC, the FCC, and the FTC that are supposed to protect the public against such types of abuse and exploitative criminality can’t (or won’t) properly pursue criminal prosecution of the perpetrators due to the vast amounts of monetary lobbying power applied by these organized crime syndicates.
These are things about our society that MUST change and MUST change in the immediate future if we would like for civilization in practically it’s entirety to not collapse completely when the catastrophic economic bubble these pyramid scheme “corporations” are responsible for creating finally collapses.
Your not a independent contractor you work for uber or lyft they regulate everything you do.
The way I see is we are exploited employee independent contractors.... There is no winning with this type of corruption.... Their business model is made for having employees work it but obviously they make way more money delegating us as Independent contractors paying us like employees but delegating every little thing we do. California needs to step in and force our independent contractor rights back! Crop 22 needs to be repealed from the supreme Court!
I’m fully aware their business model is illegal, yes.
That’s an issue that needs solving.
Hard to compete with evs, they pay 20% of the gas bills
I've been driving for nearly 8 years. Lyft is doing this cute thing called wage theft, if driver has an issue with a trip where the fare needs to be adjusted. Support automatically escalates the problem and never address the issue and they keep the fare adjustment for themselves. A few weeks ago I ended a trip early because the rider became violent toward me because he wanted me to speed because he was late for work. When I ended the trip there was no fare charged to the rider I ask Lyft to pay me for the several miles and time the rider was in my car. They escalated the problem and never paid me. Forget following up on the issue because they want you to start over. It's a system designed for the driver to fail and they get the upper hand. There were previous incidents where I wasn't paid because of adjustments needed. Also Lyft has paired me at least 3 times with people that I've reported and should have been unmatched from this is a major safety concern. If we don't talk about these issues they continue and nothing is ever done about it.
I unmatched with a guy that I proved made a false report against me and he is still in my queue.
I've had support literally hang up on me even though there was a car accident and the ride took a half hour longer and I was asking for more money and they straight up told me you got paid what you're supposed to and the only reason why we pay more is if there was unforeseen circumstance. Dumbfounded I got upset because I literally just told him there's unforeseen circumstance aka a car accident.. I basically told him if he doesn't compensate me I will sue and he hung up on me
Hi Sergio, thanks for all of your support and hard work making these videos.
Lyft sent me a survey, I spoke the truth. I'm wondering if they'll listen or dump the drivers complaing. The app is getting worse. Maps are incorrect, I drove to pick someone up, i clicked on arrive, and it automatically went to picked up rider. I couldn't find a rider, couldn't call. Customer lack of support said it doesn't qualify for a payment.
Time for audits
Or regulation
I also worked for 11 hours and made $135.71 gross with Uber Black and XL. 😢 I do not know what to do at this point. I am at cross roads. It is very disappointing!
I’m in the same situation, can’t pay rent, my car payment plus insurance is a total of $1100/ month because, weirdly, I was hit by a car last year, the other driver was declared At Fault, I had 5 surgeries on my leg, couldn’t walk for 8 months, and on top, when I went to buy the car to have to drive for Uber, I ended up with the highest interest loan possible.
Agree totally with this interview
One more thing the only reason why people are still doing it is like you said very convenient you get the money right away express pay up to five times and there’s nobody telling you want to take a break. If those things weren’t into place nobody would do this shit
This is the time new ride share co must intervene .
Uber and Lyft have monopolized the market. Without government intervention - enforcing existing anti-monopoly laws - new companies have no chance.
According to Sherman act, Uber and Lyft crooks are guilty of a felony. Unfortunately, our government is corrupt, looks the other way, doesn’t enforce the laws.
I would like to be a guest on your show. I've been driving 9+yrs and I definitely have perspective on rideshare. I'm glad to see someone standing up.
Sergio@therideshareguy.com
I really hate Uber & Lyft
hate is a strong word
The kiosk is about to fold up, please advice drivers to cash out every day
Uber tells us "this is what the job pays, take it or leave it."... Well we get penalized when we leave it!
Yes! Then, post warning on screen regarding declining scores and loss of privileges such as destination filters. I may add the destination filter was inoperable or brilliant foolery.
@@user-eh7it4kl7u
I know, Also I can't figure out how to turn it off. I'll never get past Blue membership with my acceptance/cancel statistics.
That’s exactly what I ve been saying , there is not balance with the app companies when it comes to pricing , one moment they would be charging the customers 3 times a taxi would , and the next minutes , prices are too low that there is not money there for the drivers , it feels like you are working only to tut gas in the tank , another point is , tipping , when I started driving 6 years ago , I didn’t expect any tips , but now we depend a lot on tipping and bonuses, now that the surges and bonuses are almost gone , tips is a big deal , what I noticed is that the cheaper the ride the less the customers is going to tip , let say Uber rides are getting much cheaper or a customers won’t spend more than $15 for a ride , and that is the most a customer are spending , and they will not tip you even if they are just paying $5 for 30 minutes ride , they don’t care how you are or not making money doing this , they will just take advantage of the system , i also notice, a all the time when I see a customer getting out of a taxi 99% they are tipping the driver in cash , i ve seen it and I know they are paying way more for a taxi ride then an Uber
Wow how true this is !!! 😮😮😮Uber and Lyft makes all the money. Wow I am so glad that he’s on more people need to let Lyft and uber know what they are doing to us ! Same as the states and fed government should know what they are doing ! Zerg can you please bring in some from the fed government and see how they can help all of the drivers
They know- we need to limit ourseleves to so many hours - if we dont make the $ we want - we need to stand and say no - find something else !!! And stand on that and dont move!!!!!
Just leave these companies alone, stop working for them. They’re scumbags. Once I get my license in the mail, I’m completely done with this gig app.
Please do, it is a slave plantation
Dude some of are old and will be at the end of the line for hiring.
We needbto stand - lets come together and stand togethervnomatter what! This is not the end evan though it may feel - it is not+!!! The end- make it there end
Noo theres other driving jobs making 18$
Embarrasing anymore to say we work for these crap
Great interview. I’m so tired of Uber and Lyft. They could careless about drivers. They create a system when when you’re in, it hard to get out.
Very good interview.
I’ve looked into starting my own rideshare app and the cost is around $8,000-$25,000. That does not include advertising and marketing.
But I’m sure once drivers figure it out or band together and pay to create their own apps, that’s when Uber/Lyft will cry to legislators and have rideshare regulated. Then they will come back in and re-capture the market from us and enslave us again
Impossible in the UK as the government don’t allow individuals to become independent they call PCO license and it is all about creating slaves for paying Uber and Bolt apps
@@robryan9675 yes, very serious. Sick of even thinking otherwise
I would love to see that article that he puts in his back seat
he may respond
It's about time that we had a real honest interviews with a real driver. 💪🏿
totally disagree, what does that even mean? a real driver?
@@sergioSMTMC1 Not too say you have not spoken with real drivers on this channel. My comment is more of a general statement about driver interviews online.
@damienwade7848 ok thanks, all this negativity is getting to me
Noticeably getting to you, Sergio.
Deep breaths, remember trolls troll to seek attention the same way a toddler throws a temper tantrum. The solution for both situations is to only respond to and interact with those who behave. Ya don’t sit there and argue with a toddler or even acknowledge the temper tantrum, you let them run out of gas and teach them that bad behavior gets no one any where while good behavior gets rewarded. No stick, all carrot approach. This isn’t Air Force flight school we’re negative reinforcement is a valid training tool because it keeps pilots from getting killed mid dog fight.
@@sergioSMTMC1 we’re really are not being negative by praising the guest. You both did a good job.
Taxis back then weren’t good for society. We needed more taxis to allow more people to have access, and yes it was regulated and expensive, which is why Uber & Lyft needs to pay drivers more BY RAISING RATES just a little more. We just want fairness! And I fully agree we as drivers should be drug tested at random. Nowadays, this industry WITH TAXIS as well, allows people to not question to drive under the influence. Great interview!!! Thank you!
They won’t raise the rates because they want to keep drivers desperate and compliant to the algorithms.
In Chicago driving a taxi was not always "nice" as this driver Mike says. The city government was abusive and so were the big cab companies. They abused and exploited the cab drivers in some ways.
Same in San Diego, CA !! They were not any better than Uber. I have no sympathy for Taxi owner of that famous medallion !!
They exploited the driver !!
I discuss what I get paid with my riders.
Same here and usually it results in bigger tips
We are forgetting rider responsibility on select the correct category for service and understand the game we are in.
Yeah. Case and annoying example. When I get a request to take a passenger to the airport in my car. Some passengers have either, way too much luggage. Or the luggage is too bulky for my trunk. I don't sacrifice my white leather interior for more cargo. So I have to decline the ride. Long story short. I tell them to always keep in mind the amount and size of cargo, before selecting the ride. It'll save both parties a headache
I stopped driving when Uber started adjusting our pay down to cover any tips paid through the app. They are stealing tips as well as paying less up front.
Its time for them to be regulated by the feds.. I was against that thinking regulation would ruin the business. I think we need regulations now to save it. I’ve got a car with 200,000 miles on it and should be getting a new car but at these rates I have to drive this car into the ground before I attempt to get another car it’s getting to the point where I’m not breaking even.
I feel myself in this exact situation.. you can’t drive looking for rates of the past. If you don’t take the shitty offers you won’t make anything..
This is why we need federal and state regulation that will mandate Seattle pay rates nationwide.
Exactly why we need federal and state regulation! We need the government to step in and stop the exploitation of these companies and protect a citizens for once. We are the working class! We are the majority of our economy!
Hey Sergio the Uber and Lyft system is real bad especially for seniority I’ve been a driver for almost 10 yrs … yrs ago Uber had a program if you reach 25K trips we would get 25K bonus I have not seen that program at all now.
They paying it off with current fares
I can't wait for the end of the month when I will start my other job and will be able to quit driving for Uber. What a disgrace this company is. Right now I am unable to go online after submitting my new insurance policy (which I was urged to do). As soon as I submitted it the ability to go online was gone. Support was, again, of no help.
Fuck Uber
I had a problem uploading my new insurance because of some future date issue. Call them, and they will upload it for you. They did it for me. Take a picture of your current and future insurance from the one that's expiring. They sent me an email and then I sent them the photo and they did it for me. Try that so you can get back on.
Thank you. It is resolved. Still, it is quite annoying to have to spend time on this.@@user-yo4re3si7k
I am in Silicon Valley there are triple the amount of people driving now for some reason. There was 110 Lyft drivers at San Jose Airport. I have been doing this for 5 years 50 Lyft drivers was a max. So you have all kinds of people taking every ride that comes through no matter that 85% of rides are lose. So Uber at cutting and cutting the amount ripping off all the drivers. FACE IT UBER AND LYFT ARE RIPPING OFF EVERY DRIVER. I WILL NOT DRIVE PAST 8pm IT IS NO LONGER SAFE
Mike is right, I spend 6-7 hrs, online...3-4 hrs of earnings= crap
You'd have to be nuts to drive a $60-80,000 car on UberX rates!
Enough is enough. We all know the facts, Sergio, I, and countless other drivers have tested Uber and Lyft's algorithm over the years - it's crystal clear that the system is rigged against us. Talking about it isn't enough anymore. We need action, but the question is: how? I for one advocate for the cause but I personally don't know how to go about it.... Perhaps that's why our complaints haven't translated into change. We're frustrated and unsure of the next step. But I say we stop waiting and start building. I want to create positive change for all drivers, and I believe everybody does too. Let's join forces, brainstorm solutions, and turn our collective knowledge into a powerful force for good. Together, we can figure out this 'how' and finally make our voices heard
He says if you can't beat them join them. Well you can beat them but it will take the millions of drivers working together in order to do it. And thats clearly not happening
Clearly not
I had my own taxi business also just like this guy. The last couple of years I have been doing uber lyft door dash ect. But I can't work for this kind of money. I enjoy doing it but I'm not bowing to them and their trash offerings. I cut my hours driving uber and am working on other things
Both companies are ripping the drivers off. How about if we join forces and get off the clock on busy times ?
Great information shows a general trend of drivers not being real happy with Uber and Lyft
Since I started to cherry pick, my hourly rate is 20 dollars before expenses 😢😢, the last couple days been so slow im only making like 12 dollars por hour
I drive in Phoenix and every single ride. They’re shaving the distance that they’re quoting when they send the offer so they’ll say it’s half a mile to pick up and it’s really a mile and they’ll say it’s 7 miles to deliver the passenger and it’s really 10 they’re shaving every single offer, not to mention they’ll say it’s paying $10 and then I’ll only get nine dollars so they advertising the ride nine dollars half a mile to pick them up in like 7 miles to deliver them and it’s really 2 miles to pick them up and 9 miles to deliver themand maybe they’ll pay the right amount maybe they won’t
That's been happening for months in Phoenix just nobody was figuring it out they also were sending people rides to Pete's coffee shop however once you drove the route it was at the airport there is no Pete's coffee shop many things they are doing to get driver to the area they want them to go to
I’ve said many times before. In my market of Savannah Georgia, Uber rates are not even close to being competitive with the taxis. The taxis are making a fortune.
yep, the only way for drivers to get more would be if Uber charged the pax more instead of bus fares
I am in Atlanta. A minimum starting fare price of $5 to $6 is the first thing that needs to happen to fix the problem of underpaying drivers. In addition pay for the time for pick up and drop off, and . 70 cents per mile.
He is right 1000%
I’m not dressing up for basic bus rides. Black yes
Please I want to ask questions based on the driver's rating by Riders....(1) Apart from the courtesy greetings of Good morning, Good afternoon, Hello, etc, what else does the Driver have to do,so show the Rider, he is polite? Because a Rider just rated me 1, that I was not polite to her, because I greeted her, and my radio volume is very low, so what else was I supposed to do? (2) In Dallas, Uber does not pay for Express toll, and they have made it known to us, now a Rider rated me 1 also that I did not grant her request of going through the express toll because she was running late, was I supposed to grant her request on my own expense, because the express toll is expensive, and Uber does not refund that? (3) We in Dallas know that the HOV lane is used when there are more than one person in the car, I had two riders, so we were 3, and I took the HOV lane, the Rider called Uber safety to report me that I took an illegal lane, and he didn't feel safe, but what really baffled me in this guy's case, was that he personally gave me $60 cash as tip, so why give me so much,then turn around to get me in trouble
Same thing in Portland ,or
I hope someone comes up with a driver app that treats drivers better like 50/50 at less and all drivers will leave and bankrupt them.. they needs us the drivers we just want fair pay.. they can’t even do that much.. Phoenix area is very bad. Very bad with Uber and Lyft.
It should be 75/25 at minimum.
@@christheprophet6583I agree with this. When I used to work with middlemen or AKA brokers the broker would call me up and ask me how much I would charge to go from pointed to point b I would tell them my price and then they would charge their own price on top of my price to the customer. That's how it should be
I can feel this guys pain
It's so sad we live in world where exploiting workers has been normalised
Why drivers don’t get it, only coordinated efforts on the part of most if not all drivers to really stay offline for at least few days, if you accept garbage you actually making things worse for yourself and everyone else. It’s that simple!!!
Don't accept rides during morning and evening rush daily. Start accepting rides after 5$ surge is locked in...uber and lyft Don't like the rider wait.
Don’t accept any rides period, it’s garbage 99% of the time. Working for the will almost 100% guaranteed to financially and emotionally ruin you.
Good interviewer. Nice job Mike B
thanks
If McDonalds wanted to raise the price of a Big Mac to $20 so they could pay their workers $25/hr, would that be good? No, because no one would buy their product and the workers would be out of a job and making $0. This just happened to thousands of Pizza Hut delivery drivers in California. The companies were forced by the government to pay them more than they were worth in the free market and now they are out of a job.
so you want to keep getting paid $20 before expenses?
What I want is irrelevant. If we’re up to me I would be paid $100 per mile. The free market will determine the price people pay and the money that people make.
If the income were to substantially increase for Uber drivers, there would be way more Uber drivers, which would then push the earnings down. The taxis were the ones who had a monopoly by limiting the amount of people were allowed to give rides for money, which made the prices outrageous for consumers.
@kyleinpa5285 free market? When the price of the job is set by Uber for both parties, the pax and the driver? What are you smoking man?
The driver doesn’t have to accept the price
Just received email from uber explaining the cost of fees and insurance to keep drivers on the road. Kind of like a disclaimer..dont blame us.
Thank you for this video.
You guys are telling the absolute truth!😊
I took the exact same trip. Same route same miles.
The reboot takeing them home I was payed less.
Mike suppressed is the absolute truth
Yes! Yes!!!!
This was a great guest, I agree with everything he said and felt like my story is very similar to his. I have over 22,000 rides in LA and am tired and ready to move on to do something else. These companies have never cared about us, the drivers who bring in all the money. No thanks what so ever to us drivers. I wonder how big their Christmas bonus was. Shame on DK and DR for treating us like shit. Today I was out driving for 9 hours and made $120.00. The question they may ask about why over 6 million people drive- doesn't deserve answer but a response with other questions like.... Does it make you proud to think drivers are struggling everyday. Do you really think that 120% over min wage is worth having the car leave the driveway. and is it embarrassing to you that you have to pay drivers extra because your reg fares are less than the Prop 22 min? A proud CEO is someone who runs a company that everyone is happy and makes a fare wage.
A true independent contractor can set the prices for the ride. We are NOT partners with them. Partners do not spent hundreds of millions of dollars to keep the wages below the poverty level. Partners support each other. I'm done venting. Keep fighting and Happy New Year everyone. BR
Sergio’s best interview
Ok, thanks
Finally some reality. I’m so tired of hearing people on TH-cam lying about the income ride sharing. 90% of my ride offers are well under $1/mile.
Sergio at 13:30! Bazinga!
Thank you!
Frankly. The only way to win this battle is to find other creative ways to make a better living. Uber and Lyft will continue finding ways to pay the drivers low wages. Your latest clue, is what lyft calls, 'priority mode.' For those whom don't know what that is. It's a feature in the app that you select, to get more rides, by taking a lower cut per ride. I know that it's hard for some to vacate, because they have family and other very important responsibilities. But it's sad that both rideshare companies are taking advantage of them as well as all of us. This recent and predicted glitch, really affected drivers livelihood. People not having their rent money on time. I was almost in that position. Barely got my money the next day. And i don't know if those passengers tipped, per those tides during the glitch. And for fuck sakes. Lyft didn't try to compensate for this inconvenience. It's business as usual. And it will continue, because no one is going to regulate them.
Great show. I have the same opinion as your guest
I have over 5,000 rides. I was banned today for low reviews… if the goal is pay less and less, guess what happens to my service. But thank you uber for pushing me out of a terrible situation. 😊
Yeah, this is ridiculous. They’re going to go out of business soon. If they don’t change in the next in my opinion, six months, this end of the year holiday season, and New Year’s people lost money there isn’t nobody out. People are not working out of the office anymore. People are taking longer vacations Because of the benefits of working from a laptop times are changing in Uber is not changing and doing anything but becoming more greedy and how many drivers RD going to keep turning over eventually, they’re going to run out peoples cars are starting to die out or given drivers issues with maintenance. This is not worth it. We are literally losing money doing this.
Good stuff😊 I would like to see the receipts on $1400 in two days. I would like to see receipts. I called BS on that one.
About 18 years ago I vividly Remember paying $90 for a 35 minutes trip from Atlanta airport to Norcross/ Doraville area, roughly 30 miles. Today Uber will pay me about $18 dollars for that trip. I moved about 15 minutes/ 15 miles up north( lawrenceville) from that address. And Uber offers me 27 dollars for a trip to the Airport at 4 am. I believe taxi drivers back then could make $500 to $700 a day.
@@frankelse745 definitely would have to see receipts for that one
It's not BS. What would happen was I would work a 12-hour day and hit my bonus and the next day would be the weekend bonus and I work another 12-hour day and hit the weekend bonus and that's how I made $1,400 in 2 days because the bonuses were way better back then. True story
@@teslamike1990 yeah you make it sound like you’re making $700 every day yeah once in a blue moon a leprechaun you made it and did it one time you make it sound like you were doing it all the time your problem in your market is you’re not getting paid enough for the mileage if you can’t get a dollar a mile a dollar a minute third grade math you get out of the business don’t get back in something you can’t make money there’s too many immigrants 6,000,000 of them doing this job for peanuts because they used to make $50 a week in their motherland. Now they’re making $500 a week you’re going to work hard they’re going to keep Uber and Lyft in business and there’s nothing anybody can do about it come back to me in five years gonna be the same situation I guarantee it, we are lucky in Mississippi market Uber and Lyft have been kicked out of this market and came back with great negotiating skills by Mississippi. It’s a dollar a minute and the dollar amount basically all markets are different and if you keep declining declining declining every ride, your situation is only gonna get worse. The algorithms know people that are declining rides. They are trying to get rid of people like yourself that decline rides so it’s working they only want people that want to work and take BS for pay have a great life man. Hope it works out, I would suggest going into another profession that’s my take but everybody has an opinion everybody says I’m the problem at 100% acceptance rate but I make $1500 a week plus tips why am I going to go on strike and boycott in to bite the hand that feeds me I don’t work for Uber. Uber works for me.
@@frankelse745
I had to see some receipts on that one $700 back then was a lot of money but you may do it one time but not all the time. The problem is these people meaning all these drivers thousands and thousands of drivers are doing the same job the only thing to help these people is one dollar a mile one dollar a minute or stay on the porch and work from home. You don’t have to go out there in the streets if you live close enough to any where you can get rides right from your house. I do it all the time and I’m 15 minutes away from everything, but I’m lucky I guess they say that they say I’m the problem 100% acceptance rate making $1500 a week and I am the problem. It sounds like they are the problem. They are the ones that decline so many rides to the algorithm to fix up and tries to get rid of them them meaning the ones that don’t want to drive yes they don’t want to drive for pennies on the dollar but the immigrants are driving because you’re used to making $50 a week in their motherland and now they’re making 500 a week we can all be replaced in these big companies know it. This is going to change come back to me in five years and it exactly the same way. Read this comment in five years and make some sense just saying if people don’t want to hear the truth.
Did eats years ago...I am astounded at the low offers the delivery offers. Seriously, driver pay is down...but that UE, it's criminal. Picking up and delivering WALMART on the cheap is also another BS partnership (they obviously can't or won't pay their spark drivers either)
Add on a Hertz corporate that follows uber customer service model (it does not exist), the billing practices are abhorrent. Recent biz report states they made wonderful 2023 profits as well. Go figure$$$$
Order Bisness Cards and take their riders make 100% they lose 100% use Uber/Lyft as a filler.
First of the year I got a $25 tip from my last trip. But $23 was in my wallet. What’s up with that?
Illegal. It's called a computer company that press a button and bend you over
Thanks for this video Sergio and Mike
Thanks
I DO UBER 8 TO 10 HOURS A DAY.....ONLY MAKE THE MOST 80.00 TOPS
what city are you in?
Go do something else then
These videos tell us what we already know, but when is something going to be done about it? We need a union or massive protest.
what have you done for yourself other than complain? Have you contacted your legislators, your city council, your senator?
Don’t assume that you know me or what I’ve done.
@@carlyrichardson2411 let's hear about it
Pain, a lot of pain still a head!!!
Shorter and fewer trips is the only way to beat Uber. Lyft is a joke. I rarely drive for Lyft unless I am in a $5 plus bonus zone.
Five to ten minute short trips have become scarce because lots of drivers have figured out they're the most profitable.
@@user-qr5sg6tb8t Not where I live
Best interview i saw on the Rideshare Guy. Thank you. I feel sorry for all the drivers 😢.
I disagree, it is the best because you agree with it
@@sergioSMTMC1 I agree but feel sorry for the drivers. As the drivers lack unity and support to fight this out. None of you are together to abandon Uber and Lyft for 10 days and see the repercussions. But don't worry as long as this drama goes on. You can atleast earn something via TH-cam videos 😉
3 5 hours in chciago and made 27 dollars I have a platinum status
Sad but true.
Uber extended the Tesla offer but only for 2000 max.
Yes GOV SHOULD REGULATE THIS ASAP
Cab drivers lost to Uber and Lyft because of the bad service they gave for decades.
The cab industry is the perfect example of what not to do.
When your industry becomes a punch line of jokes it’s a good sign things are not going well.
Rideshare is heading that way.
Unfortunately it won’t be here in five years.
I did only long trip but that now a they r doing that tricks also.I may close the apps for 6 months.
Yes, at the moment...forced to take what fed, especially in these rentals with mandated time and rides in ev agenda
He’s a Luddite. He wants to go back to taxi prices that were triple the price. He seems like a nice guy but driving an $80,000 Tesla is absolutely insane. I drive a $10,000 Corolla.
Exactly! The standard mileage deduction is the same for all vehicles. I drive a $5,000 hybrid with 270,000 miles.
Okay I like all the numbers. If he was out for 12 hours and it's utilization was 3 hours and he made $100. He was making $33 per hour working. Sitting around 9 hours doing nothing but denying rides.
If you are sitting and not getting good trips then you are in a crappy spot. Last Friday night you would think sitting downtown would be good but there was no college kids and no sporting events or no concert going on and i believe too many drivers. I had a ride out to one of the country towns i had non-stop passengers there because it was not over saturated.
Being a realist is tough. The House always win. In the present Macro Economy the law of supply and demand dictates pay. Here in San Francisco because the demand is relatively high and it’s only 7 miles by 7 miles I’m still able to average $30 per online hour but I’m expecting that rate to go down in the next few months after the holidays. It’s true that some municipalities are regulating rideshare rates, but since the City of SF is looking at a huge budget deficit there’s no way that it’s going to propose to take money out of the pockets of rideshare passengers since it needs that money in the City coffers.
@@robryan9675I’m talking about the current economic reality worldwide, Uber is operating in 72 countries where for the most part is affected by the Macroeconomic forces of inflation.