The Next Generation PICO Exists.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- It has been a while since the last time we talked about the Pico 4, the biggest and Only Quest 2 and Quest 3 competitor, and it's wasn't even good news, but this time it's different, because the Pico 4s, the next generation, reiteration of the Pico VR headset was finally spotted in the software!
So let's discover together what to expect from it, can Pico compete again with meta and not only with Apple and the Vision Pro like they said?
let's get into it!
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Would the Pico 4 with the New Processor and Controllers be enough for you? What would you want to see in there?
need more FoV on all headsets
Display Port
Needs DP connection or no bueno
Too communist.
anything new from pico gets me interested, i prefer pico over meta products.
I just hope the S stands for diSplayport
🤣 Loved that 👍
Doubt it, its a XR2 so it will probably be USB3 with Wifi 6 and along with it massive video compression.
@@nikushim6665 The Pico 3 Link I believe also had the XR2. Not sure how they pulled that off with the DP USB connection
Yeah, and hopefully not for "Super" like nvidia recently
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The planned pico 5 Pro max used a XR2 Gen 2 and had DP support, but i also doubt it will be in the 4s
But i expect the XR2 Gen 2 + Wifi6E will allow for better wirless/USB PC VR...
A fucking DP, how much is that to ask for nowadays. For the love of god
Sing it, Mr!
I actually like the Pico 4 better than I like the Quest 3, as I find it more comfortable to wear (one I changed out that facial interface)--and so far, at least, it hasn't crashed and forced me to completely reset my headset.
But damn it, SOMEbody needs to give us PCVR players a headset that has DIsplay Port.
DP? Oh! Display port! Yeah not having to use USB c or wireless would be so nice!
Even god struggles to demand a DP for the Pico
Everyone is pushing standalone nowadays and when it comes to the XR2 its always gonna be limited to USB3 or wifi6. Chipset was pretty much designed for cellphones.
@@nikushim6665 that doesn't mean anything. Loads of smartphones and tablets supports dp alt-mode over usc-c
Other than price, their best chance of truly competing with meta is through Display Port. Of course if they add foveated rendering, it will undoubtedly beat the Q3, especially for Sims.
If we don’t get that display port connection like pico 3 neo then they might as well not bother. That would be their main selling point as I can’t see anyone choosing this new version without it over the quest 3. But if I were to dream it would be eye tracking so we have foveated rendering. But I doubt they’ll do that. Quest 3 has a bigger game library so they know they can’t rely on pico 4s being a competitive standalone headset. They need to think more towards the PVCR consumers!
No it needs to be better in resolution, field of view, whole thing is just a blurry mess filled with plenty of life of quality flaws to the brim.
I invested almost 500 dollar just to make the pico bearable..
I just want displayport, I love my Pico 4 but wireless isn't good enough for a lot of games
Short answer, no. I've already got the first version and i'm not really interested in a new standalone version unless it offers a display port or HDMI connection for dedicated pcvr. I'm currently using Pico Connect 10 but in all honesty, it falls short of virtual desktop as it lacks either the HEVC 10 or H.264+ codecs and doesn't yet have a match for VD's godlike.
all good news so far , DP would be a quest 3 killer
We want DP port ! There is no DP + pancake VR headsets sub 1000$. I want replace my G2.
SUPPORT PICO. WE NEED QUEST COMPETITORS! COMPETITION IS HEALTHY FOR THE CUSTOMER
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Hopefully they also update the lens quality to match the Quest 3
Pico 4 Link guys, that's all we actually need. A worthy affordable replacement to the G2. It's not that hard.
Yes, it is hard. Cheap headsets like the quest line up is only cheap because they get their money back from user data. There is not other ways.
@@nagyFerko they can always charge extra for a DP version. It's not going to cost a lot and PCVR guys are more than happy to contribute to Meta, Pico's success by buying games from their store too. They can have all the data they want.
I love my pico 4! It wasn't easy getting one in the USA tho so I doubt I will upgrade to the 4s unless they are easily available in the USA.
With most people using PICO for PCVR there isn’t much benefit to having the upgraded chip. I appreciate the UI would run smoother but we spend most time in apps right?
I’d love to see a DP connection & OLED screens. I loved my PICO 4 and really like the idea of some healthy competition for the Quest line.
Well, ported BeatSaber to Pico is already big news, it works smoother in native than in PC
@@karodar that’s great news. I’ve got nothing against the PICO. I enjoyed mine for PCVR. Also I really enjoyed playing beatsaber on the Quest 2. I’m happy if PICO users finally get a chance to play it as well ☺️
If Pico4s lacks a cabel PC connection and eye tracking, I'll get PSVR2 as soon as Sony provides the drivers.
For myself, I would want Display Port connection and also updated pancake optics (Quest 3 is just so much better), as for the controllers, I didn't mind the rings on both Quest 2 and Pico 4 so it's a non issue for me. The Pico 4 is a neat little HMD, hopefully it's refresh will make it a lot better. Just having the Gen 2 chipset would allow it to decode faster and also wifi 6e capable. Time will tell.
What's happening now is like what happened in the phone industry from 2012-2016, with Phones getting thinner and thinner and one day, either Apple, or Meta, would release a very thin VR headset which would be like the iPhone 6.
Yes with a display poort, the comfort of the P4 blow Quest 3 away, the quest it’s like a brick on your head. The P4 is so much better for comfort.
We need Valve to come into the standalone space soon😢I don’t mind having Pico compete with the Vision Pro instead (especially since I don’t think Meta ever viewed Pico as a threat), but it gives Meta the whole stage
I have never owned a VR headset but... if they have display port I am buying the new Pico ASAP!
i would definitely try out the 4s, if it has a dp connection ill buy 2 😂
Clicked on the vid thinking that it was one of Thrill's tuesday newsdays, and was perfectly happy to see you instead. Well done, sir!
Great video as always hey question at the 4:33 mark what game was that you was playing?? Thanks
System Shock with UEVR, I'm so hooked
Yeah, that's look like a great game.
@@Tyrielwood thank you !
I have some inside info which I am unable to share but be sure that pico has more games and other very exciting things coming later this year. 😉
I own the quest3, which is pretty good, but if pico brings us a dp connection, then without hesitation i will throw it through the window…
Just give it away. I'll pay shipping
I use my Pico 4 as my daily driver VR headset. Have been for the past 18 months now since I bought it.
I owned Pico4, it's one of the best balanced headset in weight. With Q3, i need powerbank at back for weight balance, and that will add more overall weight to my head. This is not needed by Pico4, and that means it's overall much lighter. I can feel it if i switch from Q3 to P4. More lighter and balanced. I use Q3 over P4 now due better visuals and lighter controllers.
I will wait for Pico 4S Pro model. Pro has eye and mouth tracking. So if they indeed also make Pro model better, i will buy it from China.
Ringless controller is nice step, but of course it will make it less stable. And need new knuckles mount on it.
Because they use same P4 housing, means pancake will probably same. Maybe new LCD screens for higher resolution to try match with Q3. But overall it will save some redesign costs, and can use existing 3rd party solutions - which is a plus. Same facepadding can used for P4S.
Hope they can make controllers a bit lighter. It's more heavier because it needs 2 batteries. (Q2/Q3 need just one)
I am waiting for updated Pro version. That is all. Quest Pro 2 might look better, but also much more expensive (P4 Pro is ~ 600, while Q Pro costs 1000 (before 1500) - so yeah it's very interesting price too for face tracking solution!)
Thanks for the news.
Displayport, or this isn't going to sell very well imho. If they said sales were lower than expected on the 4, then this will be even worse without a usp.
I wish they'd just release the pico 4 with refreshed SoC and eye/face tracking. Still can't believe eyetracking isn't a default spec of VR headsets. Foveated rendering and encoding + WIFI6E/7 would make any wired option obsolete. Vision Pro and PSVR2 already showed how amazing and useful eye tracking can be
The pico 4 pro, comes with eye tracking.
@@im_aleey it doesn't exist for me if it is not released globally. Pico 4 Pro has almost no support and Bytedance tries really hard for some reason to region lock it.
I agree about the display port direct connection. If they beef up the pico 4, I hope they beef up at least a few 4 pros or enterprises. I love the fact that they have eye and face tracking. Also, I love that gold-coated mylar, space helmet look.
Great news. Good video. I think you have the most information about this upcoming headset👍
I just want a good pcvr headset with foveated rendering and Linux support.
So I'll probably wait for a new Valve device to finally get rid of my old Oculus Quest.
Bring the DisplayPort connection back Pico !
If it has a display port i say im in
DP 1.4 alone , still compress the signal...always requires an USB connection...
XR Gen2 decompression ability and the necessity to comply with many computers, make Pico Connect limited to 5GBPS and USB3.0
But a USB3.2 alone (or 4.0) and an better XR chip, will give you enough bandwidth to compete against DP for cheap (added to this, you can have an virtual DP1.4 with USB3.2/4)
Don't mind the idiot that is spreading this bs about display port compressing the signal please 😂
No need for DisplayPort if it has WiFi 6e, most important I think is higher res panels 2560x2560. It’ll definitely take sales from the crystal and big screen.
I know there's almost no chance, but please give us OLED!
Say no more!!!
still super happy with my pico4
dp would be neat, but honestly i wouldn't want to be tethered in VR ever again
could've kept my Index if that was what i wanted~
some better performance and maybe improved MR capabilities would really be all id need to see
yeah , i luv my pico 4 too
The pico4 was a barnstormer of a headset for the money imo but if its going to be much more expensive thin i will probably get the pimax crystal lite with the local dimming for 899
Hopefully Pico keep working on their linux and PCVR support.
I'm excited about the Pico series and waiting for them to come to the West. I have no interest in supporting Meta or Apple so having another competing product is great.
Looove my pico 4 , and hope this s version gets depth sensor for pass through and eye tracking. Man I want eye tracking...Fingers crossed!
If it has similar resolution and high quality lenses (huge sweet spot) to the Q3.. but with a DP link, I will buy it!!
Glad about the update, Streaming Assistant is so awkward. The 4S is interesting but I probably wouldn't upgrade anytime soon
I miss my Pico 4. If they improved the lenses to have the same clarity as the Quest 3, and a slightly more powerful CPU, I would buy again. Oh, and stereo passthrough please! While keeping the same weight and balance. 😁
DisplayPort would be the buying trigger for me. Id prefer the Pico 5 pro rumored stats but I d buy pico 4 s with display port
The problem with steam vr games in pico connect is that there is no support for left handed gamers.
I love my Pico 4 for PCVR as I cant pay for the Quest 3 due to its price here in my country and I was able to get my Pico 4 for the price of the used Quest 2 and it was bnew which was a steal!! and Pico 4 works perfectly with VD.
im very exited for this keep it up pico
Amazing! I like the new software, works extremely well on my ROG Ally and SteamVR games.
I mean... I am a European, so whether it's Meta or Bytedance couldn't be any worse either way.
That said, I still really love my Pico Neo 3 Link both wireless and wired and while the Quest certainly is the better package, Pico understood that we want a native VR headset.
If the P4s supports PCVR streaming too without an account, that'd be amazing.
I wouldn't bother to much with visual clarity over Type C since I myself am fine with the compressed picture of the Q1 also but yea, I would love to see a lighter SteamVR headset which is wireless and doesn't tear apart my wallet.
iam not. i cant stand compression it really takes me out of the experience
Exactly, if they add display port to pico 4s it would be game changer because as u said many people use it for pcvr . It will be absolutely winer card
I'm hoping that they will implement DisplayPort connection. I'm still using Pico3Neo Link because so far it is still currently the most affordable and very quick (in terms of latency) PC VR Headset on the market. So I'm looking for upgrade to Pancake Lenses but with Display Port connection and for affordable price. If Pico4S deliver that I will be first in queue to buy it.
I just want an OLED quest 3
is there any cross-platform with the quest 3?
dammit.... i got a pico 4, i just got a quest 3 and now pico 4s gets announced..... ahh i guess that's progression
Imagine it will have an oled
4S for 'Stereo' (passthrough)?
If it comes with oled or micro oled it will be a purchase from me..
Excellent news!
I think Pico made a step back , instead of lounging the pico5 serie they cancelled it. loosing a lot of potentianel custumers. The pico4s doesnt bring that much to the table and custumer support of pico is also terrible,
Hoping for display port
Pico connect "upgrade" made my headset almost useless for pcvr (luckily there is Virtual Desktop). In wireless mode I can see my desktop screen but its frozen like I click on something and I can see it working on my monitor but not in vr headset. In USB mode desktop is working but when I start steam vr it freezes after a while, what a shame.
I've notified the problem to Pico...It doesn't work properly as you described when you've selected H265, it works with H264.
@@SETHalpine I tried it and it kind of works. I still cannot do anything on my desktop in vr but all the clicks are visible on the monitor. O the other hand steam vr doesnt freeze so I can play assetto corsa (the only thing I play in vr now) I can also work on my dektop in Vr when in steam vr but whats funny I cannot change anything in pico connect software opened on my desktop even on my monitor I can click anything with no action. Anyways, I can see some improvement compared to streaming assistant but still prefer virtual desktop.
you are 💯 right
S stands for super😉
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How do you play system shock in vr???
uevr :)
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Dp, eye tracking and great pancake lenses for pcvr and I will buy a Pico S. Without all of those things, NOPE
PICO OLED YES！！I'm dreaming
Well this maybe interesting VR news, but these Pico headsets are not sold in the US and probably never will be. No way would I order one Internationally, and would they even work in the US or get support. Still a China-US thing going on.
I have the Quest 3 anyway and really enjoy the video quality for doing Sim Racing games on STEAM. Much better VR headset than my Oculus Rift S which is my backup VR headset. The Quest 3 works adequate enough through my link cable to do STEAM SIM racing games.
So not really interested about Pico products if they are not interested in selling them in the US.
Thanks for the video. Take Care.
what shooting game is he playing
I am also interested
I expected 512 gigabyte version 😭😭
Why hasn’t he published Throught the lens of Quest 3 and Vision??? I am shocked and disappointed. It’s been some time now. I follow this channel due to that. Not same games but at least compare same photos or videos between Vision and Quest
"shocked and disappointed"
lmao
The only thing i trust less than Meta is a chinese company under the CCP MCF(Military-Civil Fusion) policy.
I don't know ow what I'm supposed to do? I have a Reverb G2 and it's great, I only play sim racing but know the G2 is EOL soon, do I get the Q3, Pico 4 or maybe PSVR2?
I need cable connection to PC though!
Psvr2 is no go. It just depends on how much you want to spend after that imo
I don't believe the display port will come back. The market is simply too small - but who knows? The three people in the West using Pico will probably want to upgrade.
Just the new chip with ringless controllers...its all the same chinese fabricant
I just bought a pico 4... f*ck
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meh China
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i really like ur videos but this one is pointless. no real info to provide...
Ugh all they do is copy everything quest does and make a worse version.
Everyone commenting "DISPLAY PORT OR IT WON'T COMPETE WITH QUEST" is fucking stupid quest doesnt have it so how would it be a competitor if they added it hahahahaha. Such cope.
So let me get this straight. You think a new standalone headset with less games supporting it with a new chip has a better chance of winning consumers over the Quest 3? Hahahahahha funny story bro I fell off my fucking dinosaur! Pico 3 neo owner were hoping that the 4 would get the display port. Now is their chance otherwise Valve might come in and take what could have been.
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It's been leaked months ago