This Is How I FIXED MY SPONGY BRAKE PEDAL FOR GOOD!!
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- This Is How I FIXED MY SPONGY BRAKE PEDAL FOR GOOD!!
In this video I show how I was able to fix my spongy brake pedal on my 1995 GMC Suburban K1500 OBS GMT400. Since I purchased this truck the brakes have always been spongy. I've changed the brakes twice before which did improve the braking performance but it never improved the brake pedal sponginess. This time I decided rather than just replacing the pads and rotors I was going to replace everything and do a full disc brake system restoration. It was a success.
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This 1995 GMC Suburban is considered an OBS and is the GMT-400 platform. It is also the same platform as 1988-1998 GMC & Chevy Tahoe, Yukon, Sierra and Silverado.
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You did this all as a blind man!? That’s impressive!
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@@thronewalker1153 You don't know a joke when you see one, I'm guessing.
@@ApartmentKing66 you don’t know a joke when you see one because that was a joke. Lmao.
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@Abraham Cesar Flixportal xD
Jimmy, you are a God sent! I've been having the same exact problem with my 2017 Ford expedition. After replacing a master cylinder, brake booster, abs module, brake pads, rotors, speed sensors and all 4 hubs, your solution is the most logical. It never dawned on me to replace the caliper, hardware (slide pins) and flex hoses but it makes sense. Ford couldn't even figure out what was causing the spongy brake pedal. Thank you, thank you, thank you for your video👍👍👍👍👍
I've seen alot of people talk about upgrading the master cylinder. Glad to finally see a video on the more logical fix. Keep up the good work. I have a 95 Tahoe and love these videos.
Everyone who upgrades the master usually already replaced everything else and ran out of other options
The first step should have been to flush the brake fluid.
All that he did led to changing the brake lines. At that age, that's important.
Bleed the brakes
And to quit shouting at the camera.
Dude,,, I just put new rotors on and they were spongy as hell. I have done brakes before but I forgot about lubing those 2 pins. I just took them off and lubed the hell out of them and my new brakes FEEL like new now. NO MORE SPONGINESS AT ALL.
Thank you for posting. I had a Cavalier years ago and probably could've done it for that too but I didn't even know it was important back then. I LOVE my new brakes now just as much as your wife enjoys hers. Thank you for sharing your video!
If wife approves then you have done well. Thanks for sharing!
Happy wife, happy life.!
LOL!!! your wife is very very funny....you ought to put her in every video as the "Tester" In Charge! great video!! BTW, most women hate to coast, they ride the gas petal right up to the Light or Stop Sign!!!
Haha absolutely agree!
Its cause they don't have to fix anything. My father always said a woman is the biggest child in the house. I never understood it until I moved in with one 🤣
Even worse when they ride the brakes, or the clutch if they can actually drive a stick.
Whenever I see a car for sale that says "lady driven", I run.
Spongy brake pedal could be most likely air bubbles in the brake lines. Bleeding the air bubbles out is more easier than replace the brake pads system.
slpip 1990 Lincoln town car had a lot of air bubbles in the line once I removed all the air
No more spongy
Brake pedal totally agree
he sure put a lot of money in that vehicle lol
@@tiger.6509 why replace an entire vehicle when maintaining will help keep it feeling "like new" and last a long time.
An example would be if you get tired of your home, then you can simply move to a new home or remodel the home you already have.
@tiger.6509 00k
She's gorgeous. You're such a lucky guy. And the truck is beautiful too. Awesome.
Should have said, "she is gorgeous. You are such a lucky guy. And the wife is ok too" 🤣 just kidding
Creeps
Yeah she's hot, good job man. Tbh I cant imagine being married to a 5/5 or lower, it must be hell. You snagged a solid 8 bro.
@@BattleBorn304 Why? For noticing a woman's beauty? That makes every straight guy in the history of the world a creep too.
Wow Jimmy ! You know it's Great when your Wife says it feels like it's Brand New. Thanks for sharing and I'm glad your Brakes are good to go again. The Complete Brake Fluid system flush is very important. Thank you. Bill
Yes, I'm very happy with the result. Thanks!
The flex lines more than likely fixed the spongy feeling. Over time the lines break down. If you could see lines when pressing brake pedal they actually expand in diameter, thus creating spongy feeling. Good work Jimmy.
Yes, they definitely need to be replaced after 24 years of service!
I have stainless braided lines and fresh fluid on my 4x2 gmt400 rcsb with a 4.3l with 65k miles that has spongy brakes.
@@theautumnwind2152 keep bleeding brakes.
@@yamhammer I appreciate the input but maybe I should be more clear. No more bleeding is necessary. Once the brakes are engaged the pedal feels very firm and stops quite well. The problem is the relatively large amount of pedal travel required before brake engagement occurs. This was by design from gm. They called it a "low drag" system that saved o.1 mpg or some such nonsense. This was not a problem with hydroboost equipped vehicles.
As always, great video Jimmy! I think the most important part that you replaced was your lines! Those rubber hoses after so many years when you put pressure to them they actually expand so that expansion causes you to have that spongy feel because of the give therefore that was probably the biggest key to getting rid of the spongy feel. I’ve done many that way and it seems to be what the common denominator is in between replacing all those parts together or individually. Thanks for the videos!
*in mighty car mods voice over*
"First, jack up ya kaah"
Simple but effective... I never gave the hoses a thought. I think you've nailed it.
I did my brake, just the way you did it, it's a great feeling like a brand new car
I had the same issue with my 2005 F150. I changed the lines with steel braided and it took out all of the sponge. I had them all custom made and they were cheaper then the OEM rubber lines. Glad you got your system wife approved though. More importantly, safer for the family.
My next life, I’m coming back as a seatbelt.
😂 or the car seat for that matter lol
im offended by your comment,and i totally agree.
Silly you.
Ahhhh but you will be the seat belt of a car/truck owned by a 350 pound man who doesn’t like to wear shirts while driving in Florida weather 😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣👌👌👌
I’ve seen a lot of people remove the abs in that generation. I have an ‘88 Chevy Silverado c3500 and personally have never had an issue with the spongy brakes, I guess I got lucky
All 1 tons then had hydro boost. That's exactly why you don't suffer with that
@@jacobking4106 not true. There was a non-hydroboost HD brake system that swaps right in, you can find the parts at any auto parts chain store. The only part you can't get anymore is the proportioning valve, you have to get a used one and have it rebuilt or have a regular one rebuilt with a stronger spring.
Lots of GMs have a spongy pedal. You can fix it with stainless steel flex lines. Spongy pedal is often times caused by sticky calipers too so cleaning and lubing the slide pins makes a big difference. If it's still spongy then there's air in the system.
For many fords the issue is often the ABS PUMP
My wife got into my 74 Nova with 4 wheel drum manual brakes. When she pushed the pedal, she was like 😳. But she got used to it 😂
hey Bug - the OLD days _ before they Power brakes at Engine vac _ assist . dam old drums @ spring loaded Mech -
Glad you got it. Replacing the Power Brake Booster Check Valve in my 95 Caprice made a huge difference with my brakes. It's not a part I commonly hear mentioned but a failing one can cause all sorts of braking issues including spongy brakes.
Jimmy, great points. Like you said greasing those bushings and slide pins and then flushing the old fluid is key to making sure that brake performance is top notch. It's been the same kind of issues experienced in the older square body trucks, especially the 4 x 4 trucks. many people thought they could always just get away with swapping out pads or just surfacing the rotors and going with new pads and then couldn't understand why one brake would drag or have some issue that was always derived from moisture causing the brake fluid to gel and swell or the ungreased pins getting locked and binding up.
Your wife is adorable, blessed. Like her reaction, that’s how my Yukon drove,. Following your steps for sure. Great heads up, can’t wait
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar for posting these gmt400 tutorials. I watch your vids every night while doing elliptical. My bride and fil complain of my 96 burbs “spongy brakes”, so this is next on the list. I owe you a drink if you are ever near Buford, GA. Peace! GB
Every one needs a side kick. Knew she would want to switch vehicles. She is a keeper!
haha, i miss farris in videos! great work jimmy, you basically have that suburban built up like a new SUV.
That’s what my 95 suburban does too, new master and new brakes as well and I don’t think the truck could stop in an emergency. Thanks for uploading!
Great job, almost every car that i have done brakes on i have flushed the brake system to have new fluid in the brake system it makes a world of difference.
I had a chevy, same year, changed the MC 3 time's, still spongy, just got rid of it, still spongy. Bled it, whole 9 yards.
Jimmy, you definitely achieved your wife goals. Your lady is pretty, shapely and charming. She and your children should always be your best work!
and she will leave you - Jimmy !!! justas soon as you have enough Money and 2 kids . Welcome to the white american women World >> Starter husband
hey, another thing to look for on older GM truck vehicles that GM did to compensate for their brake OVER TRAVEL -- they made a THICKER rubber brake pedal pad that was about 1/2 inch thicker than the original stock one. It didn't FIX a thing, it just moved what you felt 1/2 inch higher so it felt like less travel.
Fair points, always do the easiest thing first. But if you’ve never done a brake hose before, you may let too much fluid out, and then need to bleed the master cylinder
Rear brake adjustment plays a big role also
Nine out of ten guys don't realize how much the braking feel is determined by the REAR brakes. Many cars and trucks in the 80s-90s-00s were disc front and drum rear. Those drums better be right. The techs in many tire and brake shops today were born after the drum brakes faded from the scene. Better make sure anybody working on your drum brakes is solid on the details.
So basically the front brakes do more braking than the rears.
The perfect outro would have been how you forgot the kid (s) were home alone while you were out test driving. LOL. And I agree with you, all of it was great advice. Be safe!
Great video Jim! Love seeing Farris in your videos. 🙂
a proper brake job on TH-cam. . . . . . awesome job . amazing how many problems get solved when ya do a job correctly
People love ya, Jimmy. 60K. Pretty good. Keep em comin'
“woooooooo”
barrel rolls suburban*
Your wife is pretty. You are a very lucky guy. Keep the fix it yourself videos coming. I love em. I have a 1996 Chevrolet S10 Pickup. Your videos help a lot.
Really enjoy your videos as I too have a 95 Burb. Had it since 01 and it's my wife's daily driver. 180k miles and still feels new to me...except that spongy brake pedal, going to try your "fix it" this weekend. Keep the vids coming.
I have to see a therapist now because I am emotionally traumatized. I didn't know I was going to be yelled at for 13 minutes by a guy wearing sunglasses inside a closed garage. I was just trying to watch a video about how to fix a spongy brake pedal. Otherwise, great video!
Good stuff. I have procrastinated long enough firming up the pedal on my '94 Suburban. You have inspired me to get after it!
That '94 needs some love. Get all your parts from Amazon. Go to Acdelco website to look up part numbers. Then find on Amazon. Very cheap!
@@1RoadGarage Thanks! I always check amazon, along with all major parts retailers whenever I need parts for any of the 8 cars and trucks in my driveway. Sometimes they (amazon) are the least expensive, sometimes not whether with OEM stuff or not. Ordering online for store pickup at Advance Auto is usually cheapest for me, (and easiest, they are the only parts store within 10 miles of me -- I live in the country) as you can always get at least a 20% discount with online retailmenot coupons (often 25%). At advance I can combine the discount with my accumulated $5 or $20 speedperks discount codes, which can result in a lot more savings. And same-day pickup is always good, as I am usually in a hurry to get my parts. Anyway, your Suburban is a beauty. Never, ever, EVER get rid of it. Rockauto is also a good option, assuming you can wait for the shipping.
@@rontiemens2553 did it work for you?
Had to work on my other cars. Haven’t gotten to this yet.
Every time I see her I say "I recognize her from somewhere"... then I saw her IG and realized it was from the Orbit gum commercial.
No matter what!
She got ya at the beginning drive.👻💥
Good job ! 👍
And entertaining. 🎬
I sold these new in period and this was a common complaint when they were brand new. They always stopped it just felt sketchy. Good job! 👍🏼
I keep hearing about greasing the slide pins . That and the new fluid works wonders . Great vid .
The new flex lines is the cure, for an even better feel use stainless braided flex lines.
Loved the DETAILED recap.
I replaced the rubber fuel hoses with the Russell stainless steel braided lines, and those helped as well.
Yep step one ..fluid replacement...step two ...the master cylinder....step three ..the wheel cylinders and step 4...the lines. Is that a fair stepwise solution for the average Joe
its funny how the most replayed part of this video is when his wife hops in the driver seat lol
Another great video Jimmy 👍 Thanks for all your effort and helpful tips.
Wow.. very loud and animated presentation... What's with the sun shades? Great content anyway.. nice to see a vintage vehicle being taken care of. I have a 95 S10 Blazer with 330k miles....
Spongy brake pedal is 9 times out of 10 air or old fluid which has absorbed water ( hydroscpoic) in the system if all components check out okay. Cheapest 1st try bleeding system.
Chevy built limited addition 2000 Z71 Tahoe's on the gmt400 platform. I have the exact same problem.
I have an 07 Camry w 34k miles, pristine, but soft, spongy pedal. Plenty of pad, 8mm, calipers, all looks brand new. I'm thinking fluid after all the years has probably lost its effectiveness, will try a full bleed to see if that helps. Thanks for the video, wife's reaction was great.
"Fixed brake pedal"
-how?
"Thrown new unnecessary parts all over it".
-oh, sure... (facepalm)
Brakes were 24 years old..... it was time to rebuild them unless you want to take a gamble at old worm brakes.
All this guy's videos are just shoddy quality dart throw repairs and he gets to throw all these parts on because he's an affiliate.
This is worth knowing, I always wondered how a new MC would be so much better in some people's hands. Maybe because they replace other elements at the same time?
Maybe.
I agree 100% grease the slide pins
Here's some more info: 1500's: Use Akebono ceramic pads (the highest grade). Use RAYBESTOS 580438PER rotors. The rear brakes are largely not in the game. Check for a TSB on the brake proportioning valve.
For those with 2500's that use Hydroboost, this is what I use: K3500 DRW rear wheel cylinders, Wagner WC79768 or D28-18274, swap out master cylinder to HD DRW version Raybestos MC39309. You must do both as the rear cylinder volume in the new MC matches the capacity of the new wheel cylinders. The front will still work fine, but the front 3500 calipers/rotors will not fit in the 2500.
2500's: AKEBONO ACT370 pads and RAYBESTOS 580438PER R-300 High Performance Rotors.
This applies to 1994 and 1995 CK models, and possibly back to the body style change in 1990??
The same brands of quality parts apply to many more model years.
Everything you are doing to your 03 Silverado I am going to my 03 Chevy Astro van so I really enjoy your videos and it gives me ideas for my next project
I have a 96 Tahoe and I feel like the brake is good I don’t ever feel like my brakes won’t stop me in time
You speaking good sense here sir...thank you for doing what you do helping out peeps like me. Blessings!
I know that feeling all too well. That LOUD hiss when you hit the brakes of a 88-98 Chevy. I have a 97 suburban k1500 and I was considering replacing the booster because I replaced the pads and had NO difference. but now I’ll be doing the calipers
lol I laughed at brakes "like butter". I dont want my brakes like butter! xD
You should have her on more often!
I had my brake fluid flushed in my 2013 outback with dot 4 and omg the pedal is 100 times better. I have coated rotors with ceramic pads
Very good video, I can see that your very good drivers too, great job !👏
You’re a lucky man jimmy
Yeah she's prob annoying AF like most women, but at least she's a 8/10
It was an inherent "problem" with the GMT400 platform and I do agree it is unnerving a bit. As a kid, when I first learned to drive in one of these, it felt normal to me since it was the first vehicle I drove. After I drove more and learned others, I knew this was different. All GMT400 trucks I have driven to this point, including my baby, my 98 K1500 with over 225k, has the same problem.
I want to do a full front brake replacement, including the flex line. I hear you get even better pressure from the steel braided lines. Aside that, other people also delete the ABS module as, for most, has become useless over time, and the astronomical amount of money it takes to get it fixed makes people just do without it. Redistributing the ABS lines and putting in a proportioning valve helps as well.
I suppose we will see but I am glad you found an easy solution. Keep taking care of that truck!
There is a air bleeder on the abs module if you get air in it get it all out and rebleed the wheels.
Not for the GMT400 models, when air enters the ABS valve body, it stays trapped in there.
The only way to get it out is to cycle the ABS valves with a scan tool or to engage the abs on loose gravel
@@benoit8850 Mine is a 98 GMC Suburban and I'm glad It has the air bleeder.
@@topperthompson580 I've got a 98 Tahoe and the guys from www.pacificp.com/forum all said it can't be done without a scanner or gravel. 🤔
This guy shows how to do it:
th-cam.com/video/AV9kX_qc0HQ/w-d-xo.html
I agree with you on everything 💯 BUT I still think the master cylinder upgrade is the end all fix for these I did everything entire new brake system same but eventually went back to same feeling. all oem too ac Delco
if the truck has the jb5 brakes (check RPO codes in glovebox) i bet you could get them feeling even better with a rear brake adjustment or replacement. At 24 years old the self adjusters are probably stuck. I had a worthless brake pedal and just did a rear brake job, the adjusters were stuck and the parking brake lever rusted to the shoe. After getting the properly adjusted, the pedal went from going to the floor with barely any stopping power to half way down with good stopping power. Next is to do the fronts. 326K still rolling.
I just watched your wife's E News interview and saw you on there too! It was "FABULOUS".
5:18 "wooooo" "don't fuckin do that"
Great video. I have a decent suspicion that my issue may be drum adjustment, the master, or the flex lines but who knows. (I’ve already bled the whole system whether I did it properly or not)
My vehicle was spongey when I purchased it and I wanna get all the unsettling things fixed before my alignment which is a week from Tuesday (today’s Friday). Fortunately I have an accumulated few days off of work before then and plenty of evenings.
Good job man.
I have the same truck and my brakes are awful even after putting in a NBS modern truck master cylinder. I’m thinking that I’m going to have to remove the old ABS module, which is probably faulty at this point.
Respect. Beautiful wife! Beautiful truck! Life is 👍
Good advice
Enjoy your video
Keep it up
I have never heard brake hose called a flex line before. You spent waaaaaaayyyyyy too long making your point that the truck stopped better. Any vehicle that is 20 years old is going to need fluid flushes of every fluid in the vehicle. Including brake fluid, power steering fluid, transmission/transaxle fluid and filter. Locks and hinges should be lubricated on all doors including hood and trunk. Nobody does this stuff because they have old cars because they can't afford a newer car or because they don't care if their car needs nor do they believe their car needs this stuff. Your brakes could also have a bad ABS unit making them spongy.
13:16 to save some time
Talk about gilding the Lily!!! FFS!
BTW that brake fluid is as black as coffee. You invested in new pads, rotors, and calipers without touching that sludge! Bravo!
Throw money at it until the problem fixes itself!
Farris should have her picture on her IMDB page.
Great video, sure didn't hurt having good looking driver to watch.
Lovely wife man she’s fun....thanks for this update helped me a lot
Your wife is so cute, lucky guy. You guys are great made the video great
i have a 99 burb and this helps, thanks
7:48 is when he starts the How I Fixed part of video. Thanks for the info.
Also this truck should have a Kelsey-Hayes abs unit. There is a bleeder on this unit as well. There are videos on TH-cam showing bleeding procedure. Will make even more of a difference.
I think you got about one more year before your truck can be registered as a classic under the 25 year law... at least, that applies to my state. Might cost a bit extra, but it's something to look into.
Imagine doing all this AND upgrading the master cylinder. That’d be a great brake pedal😂. Tbh it’s way simpler and cheaper to upgrade to the nbs master cylinder. Assuming all of your brake parts are still in good shape.
GREAT VID. JIMMY, GLAD TO SEE YOUR WIFE WAS IN IT & SHE LIKES THE BRAKES. NICE LISTENING TO YOUR SUBSCRIBERS BY UPDATING MASTER CYL. YES LUBE IS NEEDED TO MAKE THINGS SLIDE IN & OUT, DON'T CHEAP OUT ON LUBE. ALSO FIRMNESS IS IMPORTANT TOO & IT MAKES YOUR WIFE VERY HAPPY.
You are the men amigo now I know how to fix my spongi brakes on my chevy Silverado 94 also on my chevy Cheyenne 93 everything new thanks for this video Grasias amigo and beautiful helper asta la Vista amigo.saludos desde san Bernardino ca.
I need to swap my brake hoses to metal flex lines and my pedal would be soo good, braking on a new car is soo nice and if your older car can do the same it’s amazing
12:46 and you can drive my envoy?.......No... Lllllloooooollllll 😂😂😂
Damn! You lucky bastard..
MAN!!!...Thanks a nice clean suburban, love that body style. Good video!!
I'm a 2005 Chrysler Town and country which has a spongy brake pedal I will be trying this I have done everything I can to try and get the metal stiffen up I'm going to try what you did
Replaced the whole brake system. Front and rear pads and calipers. Rubber lines. Master cylinder. Hydro-boost. Everything installed correctly. Spongy... super spongy brake pedal. It’s HORRIBLE!!!!!!!! 🤦🏻♀️ vacuumed system, conventional bleed. Repeat. Still bad!
I'm experiencing the same thing with my 03 alero 2.2L 4C please comment back if you've found the solution.
Great video! Very funny yet informative and Ladies always remember to use your seat belt lol
Well said.. Very subtle.. Lol