2 years later and your review of the first dragon box to me is one of the greatest dbz reviews on youtube ever. Great video here and I really hope you make more dbz videos on a regular basis (even monthly would be awesome). Your dbz vids got me back into anime as a whole and I just want to say thank you and happy holidays.
I never had any problems with Goku's japanese voice. I don't really have any understatement of why people dislike Nozawa's voice to the point of insulting her.
I can see that. However I grew up with the latin american spanish dub, in which Goku had a deeper tone than Schemmel's, still, the first time I ever heard Nozawa it didn't really bother me, so I don't see why people trash her so bad. It's really silly to me and kinda hypocritical seeing how characters like Freeza had a completely different voice, yet they glorify her over Chris Ayres.
Sauce Uchihahahahahahahaha yes same for me, i grew up with Hindi Dub and then after growing up watched Funimation Dub in the college days where Goku is voiced by a Male and _Yo! Son Goku and his Friends Return_ was my first exposure to Japanese version and i loved everything about it and none of the voices sounded bad to me at all. yea, you are right the Z Dub fans are hypocritical when they criticize Sub for casting goku as female when their own dub does same with Freeza but the other reason they give to hate sub is that, it's too high Pitched when that's not even the case because Nozawa makes her tone deeper when goku is in fight but for some reason they are okay with their Hello Kitty-on-crack Fat Boo voice which is ear wrenching, unbearable and definition of Shrill high pitched annoying voice to me atleast
Sauce Uchihahahahahahahaha I generally see people hate Young's Freeza. And the people who prefer her don't usually give good reasoning as to why they like her beyond "he's an alien." It's just nostalgia trying to be rationalized by poor reasoning.
I wish they used the Dragon Box masters for the new Blu-Rays, uncropped, unenhanced, except to remove slight things that might be there. That way they can have less discs, more episodes per discs, & all of the audio options. That way we'd have the best release of DBZ on Blu-Ray &, hopefully, affordable & in print for a while.
@iNeoCats Because the animation style before DBS Broly was terrible. If they redid the entire series from Dragonball, to the end of Z in the style of the new Broly movie, I would be one of the happiest fans of anything every. But I know they won't which saddens me but eh, what're ya gonna do?
@@izukumidoriyaisssss3049 I mean do you really expect toei to reanimate 444 episodes, Toei has a lot of shows and projects that need attention so it would be a tall order to ask for a shot for shot remake of a series that ran for almost ten years
Craziness. And the sad part is, it really is the best home release you can have legally. Now there are fan projects of the anime with the colors restored and in 1080p as well with the clean advanced masters. 😮
Lmao yeah the line REALLY makes the vid outdated, but he didn't know at the time. He was just giving credit where credit was due, but Funimation went on to crop the series again after this.....
Mmmhmm. Discotek never would’ve done that. Or at least, they would’ve made their best efforts to give us something worthwhile. Thankfully I have all the Dragon Boxes, but I feel for those who buy into the Blu-ray "remastering".
I have a few words for you, Fusion. Before I saw your Dragon Box Reviews, I loved the Orange Bricks. I thought they were the best release of DBZ at that moment, and seeing you tear them apart really made me mad. You criticizing the dub, I hated it. Then, I decided, for whatever reason, to buy box 5, and all I can say is... THANK YOU! I thought you were exaggerating about the picture being that much better, but you were right on the ball. I have grown to love the japanese audio even more than the dub I loved in the past. Thank You, MistareFusion.
I'm glad I was able to help, and I apologize if my ragging on the dub was over the top. I was younger and sillier when I made my first DBox video over four years ago, and in this one (which is already 2 years old, amazingly) I tried to present a more objective analysis. And that's partly because I wanted to drive the point home that the orange bricks aren't bad because of any dub/sub rivalry but simply because of what was done to them video-wise. It's a shame that the DBoxes are out of print and the Level sets were cancelled (so much for my predictions in this video), and we're now going to be left with a Blu-ray release even WORSE than the orange bricks. Sigh.
MistareFusion Well, maybe we get lucky and funi blu rays the dragon boxes after the backlash they get from these season sets. They could easily have the english soundtrack on a blu ray and not effect the video quality plus blu rays are much more durable
Actually, the new blu-rays are better than the bricks. They contain much more accurate color and don't have those infamous line erasure problems. I guess that since Funi had the DBoxes, they have a better guide for what the colors are SUPPOSED to look like. They also did a much better job of Tilt and Scan and don't cut off important visual elements as badly as they used to (e.g. the commercial bumpers now have Goku and Gohan COMPLETELY in frame and not cutting off heads and mouths like they used to).
I've compared the blu-ray side by side with the "Rock the Dragon" edition and noticed that the missing detail was mostly inconsequential and that there actually IS extra detail on the sides of the frame. Another thing that's been largely overlooked is that Funimation actually let fans vote on whether they wanted a 4:3 or widescreen release and they voted for widescreen.
@iNeoCats the blue and green bricks have decent enough video quality, but I'd certainly not say that the orange bricks have good video quality. The cropping, overzealous DNR and ruined colours stop that from being the case. That said, you're completely right that being happy with what you have is the most important thing. It's just a shame that Funimation are unwilling to satisfy everyone, even though they have the tools to do so.
@iNeoCats the orange bricks are not 4:3, them being wide-screen is one of their defining traits. dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Funimation_Remastered_Box_Sets
@@AlexanderDiviFilius that's just nitpicky bullshit! As long as it's not skipping or 240-360p who gives a flyin fuck! I don't care if people enjoy it on VHS as long as they enjoy it. Everybody always nitpicks TV shows they instead of tuning out and just going with the flow , stop listening to these critics and reviewers. Their eyes aren't your eyes and their ears aren't your ears.
Apparently, since this was the days before home video, Toei didn't feel compelled to keep the original audio masters (the same holds true for Z as well), so they were aired once, discarded to save room, and never used again.
The Dragon Boxes are the best and most comprehensive DVD release of the series that FUNimation has ever had here. Given that every other release of theirs had previously been sourced from lower quality generational masters they were inherently missing content like the proper OP/ED credits and next episode previews, that was a key issue that the DBoxes rectified in addition to the beautiful video quality. I also like they went with the English dub track from the season sets with the original Japanese score and ditched the replacement broadcast music, as i really don't have much of a deep nostalgia for the Johnson/Team Faulconer scores even though it was on the version which played on Toonami i saw as a child. I prefer to have the music that was originally intended for the series, even if the accompanying dub is so so. On the point about Kai, i've been getting that over time to have as a companion piece alongside the original if i don't want to watch the crap filler. It also has the advantage of a vastly improved dub from FUNimation's cast as well as far more accurate scripts to the original. It's definitely my preferred way of watching the series dubbed in English as opposed to the wildly inaccurate original in house 1999-2003/2005 dub and 2007 revised Orange Brick Z dub.
I compared footage from Brick 7 and Box 6 and found an alarming number of details missing. Goku's undershirt and boots were black, the gray highlighting on the Black parts of Gohan's Saiyaman suit, Videl's hair, 18's shirt, and the tournament announcer's suit were gone, and everything has an unpleasant yellow tint. I wish I had collected the DBoxes while it was easy and they were cheap. I just didn't see what the big deal was.
I might do a vlog-type update condemning its 16:9ness, like what I did about the Star Wars Blu-rays, but since I no longer have an HDTV or Blu-ray player, I can't really review them. (And I certainly don't intend to buy them even if I did.)
i hate watching videos over 5 minutes, but surprisingly i watched your whole 20 min video. i was so absorbed in what you were saying. i really liked this post. keep up the good work!
I can't really say it's the voters' fault. The fact is, your general consumer is not very technically-oriented. They're ignorant of how such things work. For a company to put technical specifications into the hands of the masses is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of, especially when I honestly believe the majority of those who voted for 16:9 already have their TVs set in such a way that it's already zoomed or cropped to 16:9 no matter what disc they put in there, so it'd make no difference.
I really wish FUNimation would do what Lionsgate did with PR Samurai & put the Dragon Boxes on Amazon as "made to order" orders, so people who want these godsends can get them for a decent price, especially nowadays. For now, I'll stick with Kai's releases.
In the UK we have the Orange bricks, but unfortunately it's the only version tat was released over here. No Box, no Rock The Dragon, no Blu-Ray. Just Bricks.
@EnvelTheTrader What Blu-ray movies are you talking about? Dragon Ball movies or movies in general? Because movies in general are rarely cropped anymore. That started going out of fashion in the DVD era.
Man the Dragon Box's would have been perfect if they included the American music, the Blu rays were AMAZING but its a real shame that they got cancelled :'(
@WolfFistProductions This is the third in a series of DBox reviews, so I didn't want to repeat too much I had already said. The video problems were covered in more detail in the previous two installments. I don't know if you've seen them yet. But if so, and you still aren't sure, then let me know, and I'll shoot you a message.
@TheGamingTurtlez Please feel free to elaborate on Kai, but I feel they did a top notch job on it. They brought in some great new voice talent (Chris Ayres is an amazing Freeza). They kept the scripts mostly accurate. They kept the music intact. They really gave it a respectful and professional treatment for once, and it paid off. This is what the DBZ dub should have been over a decade ago. It's just a shame it took them so long to get to this point of competency.
Re-recorded lines by actors who didn't feel their earlier performances were good (e.g. Chris Sabat's Vegeta, Sonny Strait's Kuririn), completely replaced lines for actors who had left at some point during the series (e.g. Kyle Hebert redoing all the narration previously recorded by Dale Kelley), and missing voice filters on certain characters (e.g. 4th form Freeza and Boo). What's "better" is ultimately going to be up to what it is you're looking for and what's most important to you.
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The some reason is that they discarded all the audio reels back in the day in order to conserve space. But the original broadcasts, make no mistake, are still mono. Just higher quality mono, because, again, the number of channels something is mixed to has no bearing on quality.
@mojojo1993 To go into more detail: 1996-1997: Beginning-Vegeta's departure 1997-1998: There-Goku defeated Reacoom + Movie 3 1999-2000: There-Garlic Jr. 2000-2001: There-Cell arc 2001-2002: Anoyoichi Budoukai-Vegeta's death 2002-2003: There-End of series The '98-'99 season did not feature any new episodes,as Saban had stopped syndicating the show. But it was the season that Cartoon Network broadcast the reruns, leading to the rest of the series being dubbed starting the next season.
In the picture I showed at that point, they added fake grain to the "before" side to make it look worse. They claimed the 16:9 added more footage, which was patently false. 20% of the image was cropped to make it 16:9. The miniscule amount of added footage (~5%) on the sides was due to their rescanning of the film, not the 16:9 aspect ratio. And there was a comparison image between the two ratios that, while not outright lying, was misleading to make it look like the 16:9 had more image.
Man, were you probably disappointed when the announcement for the new DBZ blu-rays, or as they should be called, the orange bricks re-release, considering that they're pretty much the orange bricks, but on a new format, huh, Mistare?
MistareFusion where do u recommend I buy the dragon boxes, I got no. 5 off amazon, but the rest are more expensive there. Anyplace else u recommend or should I just start saving :). I live in Australia.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure where you'll be able to find them cheaply. This video is over two years old, and I did not anticipate them becoming so rare so quickly. I got them when they first came out, so I was able to get a good deal, but now demand has far outstripped supply, so those who sell them can get away with charging higher prices for them. But, yeah, all I can say is to follow sites like eBay and Amazon, and maybe you'll get lucky. But you probably will have to save up.
@TheGamingTurtlez And, yes, I do hate the orange bricks. FUNimation gave me far too many reasons to hate them. Obviously you're not required to agree, but I would be interested to hear what your reactions/opinions are to all the reasons, particularly the more major ones, as I wouldn't have had much of a problem with the smaller issues if they were the only problems, I listed.
@mojojo1993 Thank you for your kind words. And while I do agree that your divisions are the proper story arcs, that's not the same as seasons. A "season" in television is a set number of episodes produced/purchased for a given year of broadcast. And in that sense, DBZ was split into six parts in its original US run.
Hey do you think that they will start printing more copies of the DBZ Dragonbox copies. I find it's getting hard to find Volume 1, and Volume 2 of the Dragonboxes at reasonable prices. Like whenever I go to places like Amazon I find that just Volume 2 alone is like between 400-1000 dollars a copy. When I can find DBZ Dragonbox 1 for like just a little over 100 dollars. What's up with that?
Okay. Since you didn't technically answer the question. I'll try to reword the question to get the answer. Which dub do you think is better. Pre-Christopher Sabat or Post-Brian Drummond?
Soon after finishing their dub of the rest of the series, around 2005-ish, they went back and redubbed those episodes uncut with their in-house voice cast. Those are on all current products, so if you mean those, no, they aren't. The audio from seasons 3 and 4 (actual season #s, corresponding roughly orange brick seasons 3-6) was changed in some places, redubbing certain characters like Chris Sabat's Vegeta and actors who had since left (Ginyu, the narrator).
So, it turns out I saw these Dragon Box videos of yours when they first came out 5 years ago and only recently stumbled upon your channel again thanks to Dragon Ball Dissection. Lol!
First time I've watched you review but I must say you really but a great perspective on the Dragonboxes, and well pretty much you put a great description on Dragonball Z, and series put together, and which convinced me to buy the Dragonboxes now, and not just the new Blu Ray levels. I hope to see more of your opinions on the Dragonball series, and many other keep it up.
Short answer, though, is that the English audio track on the Dragon Boxes is EXACTLY the same as the 5.1 English option on the orange bricks. So if you didn't like it there, it's not going to be a different experience for you here.
I'm not sure why you think I dislike "Saiya-jin." In fact, I use it all the time. However, in my videos, I usually go for "Saiyan" if for no other reason than to prove to people that you can Anglicize the word properly without butchering the pronunciation like FUNimation did.
The only thing Toei messed up in the Dragon Box big time is their audio quality. Why didn't they just keep the original recordings, which sounded way more clearer than the optical audio and broken tapes they used?
While the original audio track was indeed not preserved by Toei, it was still mono. Mono has nothing to do with the level of quality. It simply means the data is mixed to a single speaker. Dragon Ball only began using a stereo soundtrack at GT, I believe.
Plot holes are not opinionated. And no, I never once said that. I have stated that Kai is superior in terms of dubbing quality for BOTH dubs(even on the Dragon Boxes, the Japanese audio isn't all that good). You can prefer the original to Kai as much as you want. I never once said you couldn't. But you are literally claiming "the original is better than Kai will ever be because opinion." You just keep hiding behind the opinion card. Yes he did. He wrote the manga. THAT'S CANON.
Wow. That "Before & After" screenshot of the scene for your explanation of their ad campaign, didn't look any different, from 1 side, to another. At least, not what I saw.
I have the first 6 orange brick dvd's and i am conflited to finishing the set or starting from scratch and collecting the dragon boxes. I do like the box sets but i dont mind the orange bricks sets that much. I do wish they put more effort into them so we would not have to chose between two sets.
@EnvelTheTrader No, that's not correct. Widescreen does not inherently imply cropping. It does in the case of Dragon Ball because it was not originally widescreen. It has to be cropped to achieve that aspect ratio. Likewise, before widescreen TVs, most movies were cropped FROM widescreen for their home releases, resulting in lost footage on the sides rather than the top and bottom. It's all relative to how it was originally shot/presented, and terms like "fullscreen" and "widescreen" mislead.
Wow, time flies, it's already time for a whole series review? I really need to grab Dragon Boxes 6 and 7... Glad to see another solid review video, you definitely keep them interesting, even when doing products I (mostly) already have.
I can't really speak for the movies. I believe the last 3 "seasons" correspond to the last two actual seasons, the Majin Boo arc. And in regards to that, it would simply be because they did it later, so they had gotten better in their writing abilities. Even though the first two seasons were redubbed, they still largely used the same scripts from 1996-1997, so it didn't make much difference in that department.
A big reason why American anime fans get gypped on home releases is because "reverse importing" is very popular in Japan (yes, they buy our DVD sets in Japan). And this is because the local anime releases are insanely expensive compared to the American counterparts, so Japanese companies will often intentionally give the US an inferior version to discourage reverse importing.
4:31 back when Funimation started dubbing GT, they had received Dragon Box GT master material. That’s why the GT Singles and Dragon Box look almost identical, minus the bitrate.
I assume you're referring to the Japanese side. So, no. What he means is that the original audio reels were discarded after the original airings, leaving only the lower-quality audio track imprinted on the video reels to be used for future releases.
As it stands, the highest quality we will have are the blu-ray DBZ Kai sets. Say what you will about Kai but it is the most faithful version to the manga. The voice acting leagues ahead of Z, the violence reduced to the manga standards, and even redone animation in some episodes as well as a script much more accurate to the original Japanese one. Plus with the announcement Kai is getting a Buu saga, its a fact the highest quality is the Bluray Kai sets.
@PrinceofSaiyajins456 Like I said, he's not a jerk. He's not gonna rant and rail because people liked it, he's not gonna say they're not fans, he's not gonna attack people that took the time to animate it. The problem however, is that they DID change some things, they DID make too many guesses. Stories for the most part were fine. It was the padding that was horrible. However, they made some big mistakes a couple times. Such as....
But even in that case, the music, scripting, and performances are what make the product itself. So, yes, I'm more interested in seeing the actual product than seeing a reversioning of it. Doesn't mean I won't necessarily check it out. I mean, I made a five part video series doing an in-depth comparison between Super Sentai and Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.
@FutureGohanSSJ2 But you don't see him as a scared kid throughout. In the manga, you see him letting dinosaurs chase him for fun. The anime shows how he got to that point. Like I said, deciding not to run away from training is completely different from spontaneously freaking over the scary bald man with murderous intent. If one's a contradiction, then so is the other. I don't think either is. The year changes him, but preparing for something is a very different emotional beast from doing it.
Well, last I checked, there is no "plan" at the moment. FUNimation did put out a survey earlier this year in regards to releasing more Dragon Boxes, which series is most desired, etc. But there's been no word in regards to the survey since then. There's also been an unofficial statement that FUNimation would like to do *a* release of Dragon Ball in 2013. Many people conflate those two to assume that 2013 will see a Dragon Box, but there's been nothing official to say so.
Great videos on dragon ball man I like how you don't call out people who can tolerate the widescreen and prefer the Faulconer score "casual fans". We all like Z. The same story, the same characters, and the same action. I myself have all the dragon boxes. The season set blue rays. And kai on blu ray. Preferring one version over another doesn't make you less of a fan or more of fan. Even though you don't need it, my respect goes out to you man.
@theprojectsproductio They didn't change them. They just faded a bit. I have heard they are not as revered as they are over here, but, especially considering they are the only release Japan has ever had, I have a hard time believing it could ever be as reviled as the orange bricks.
Very difficult to answer. Video-wise, no, as what was shown on CN wasn't cropped to widescreen, didn't have the brightness cranked up, and wasn't DVNR'd to death. Audio-wise, that partly depends on when you watched it. FUNimation dubbed the first 67ish episodes (condensed to 53) back in 1996-1997 with the Ocean voice cast, and those were rerun on CN for several years.
The Ocean cast actually came back to finish the series and GT separately from Funimation after the latter started hiring in house voice actors. It's really hard to come by in North America though. They apparently even did their own dub of Kai separate from Funimation. I never seen footage of it though.
The Ocean cast didn’t do GT, Ocean’s sister studio Blue Water did. None of the Ocean voice actors are in that dub. Blue Water also did a dub of OG Dragon Ball. Plus, fans recently remastered the later Ocean episodes of Z using DBox footage, so it’s pretty easy to get now.
You should send me a copy of the DVDs, lmao. These things are way too expensive nowadays! I can't the cropping and the American soundtrack (I like the dub because it's what I watched as a kid). I wish they'd re-release the dragon boxes again because I'd grab em in a heart beat!
Yeah, I got the Orange Boxes, found out Funi were re-releasing DBZ as box, stopped paying attention then realized too late that Dragon Boxes went out of print really quickly... I still don't have Volumes 1 and 2 for Box. Though, I did get the Rock the Dragon set.
@MistareFusion It contradicts the fact that in the filler, he already adopted the "I won't run away anymore" mantra and then freking runs without hesitation when facing Nappa. When a character has already had that epiphony and yet still runs later, that's false conflict. They regressed to a former character trait for the sake of a single plot point. At least seeing that he's still a scared little kid throughout makes more sense than seeing all that traumatic BS and yet still freaking out.
What I don't understand is that according to the Bardock special, Goku was just a baby when Planet Vegeta was destroyed, but when Raditz came to Earth (when Goku was an adult), he said that Planet Vegeta had been destroyed only three years ago. Sure, a year is probably going to be a different length on Vegeta than on Earth, but he said that the other saiyans would arrive in one year, and that corresponded exactly to an Earth year.
I personally found the kai openings looking pretty good. Sure not as good as alot of openings, but it still looks nice. What are your thoughts on the new blu rays that have 16:9?
muhammed sabally I think they're absolute garbage. They're the orange bricks 2.0. Certainly better than their predecessor but an infuriating return to an insulting business practice they never should have dabbled in. Losing picture, smoothing away detail, hideously altering the colors... there is nothing good about these. Nothing.
MistareFusion the dbox are certainly the best release's of dbz.I bought the first blu ray for 5 dollars, to a friend and they suck balls over saturation,inconsistent coloring,terrible grain removal,razor sharp lines and awful color palette.the cropping is not as bad as the orange bricks but is still bad regardless Dragon box 1 all the other dbz release's 0,excluding the level cause they're discontinued
I would certainly praise it and recommend. Would I buy it? I'm not sure. I'm (mostly) perfectly satisfied with my DBoxes. I'm not made of money, I don't feel a need to own every Dragon Ball product, and I can see myself not feeling I need anything else at this point, even if it is an improvement. At the moment, I feel satisfied using my chapter skip button to watch the NEPs in correct order and putting in my specials discs at the proper time. So I don't know...
I wonder, since you've said you're an original series trekie, would you do a version of this video for the remastered version releases of the original series, possibly vs the original 60s versions for the space scenes? Also, possibly the same type of thing for TNG, if you've seen the blu-ray remasters & the original versions of the episodes for that show too. Just a thought to hear your thoughts on the subject(s).
@FutureGohanSSJ2 I don't know. The Saiya-jin arc is actually much stronger in the anime than how Toriyama wrote it, especially in regards to Gohan's character development. I'd say some slow pacing later on is worth it just for that. But in general, from the beginning of DB through the Saiya-jin arc, filler is actually worth watching. But after that, Toei seems to have gotten incredibly lazy and gave up on actually making filler storylines and just made it into standing around for minutes.
Not sure if Kai had to fix them. Most of the damaged frames were from the multiple generation copies that FUNimation was using. A lot of those weren't present on the o-neg that the DBoxes and, later, Kai, sourced. Not much was 35mm, just a few episodes around where Piccolo fights Freeza. And the latter depends on how you want to watch it in English, as there are so many versions and redubs and such. In general, I would have said the Blu-ray, but since it was cancelled...
@Bam9336 It had six in America. When season 4 ended with the Cell Games there were still about 100 episodes left of the series, so season 5 ended with Vegeta sacrificing himself to kill Boo.
@FutureGohanSSJ2 In the manga, we see Gohan, and he does nothing but cry in the wilderness and is trapped on a mountain. Then he gets his tail chopped off, and the next time we see him, he's completely mastered living in the wild. From crybaby to independent feral child is something that Toriyama really should have at least glossed over.
What still confounds me about the orange bricks, is that FUNimation doesn't go back & redo their masters for them, where it's put back into it's 4:3 proper aspect ratio.
2 years later and your review of the first dragon box to me is one of the greatest dbz reviews on youtube ever. Great video here and I really hope you make more dbz videos on a regular basis (even monthly would be awesome). Your dbz vids got me back into anime as a whole and I just want to say thank you and happy holidays.
I never had any problems with Goku's japanese voice.
I don't really have any understatement of why people dislike Nozawa's voice to the point of insulting her.
Sauce Uchihahahahahahahaha because it does not sound like how they picture goku to sound like
I can see that.
However I grew up with the latin american spanish dub, in which Goku had a deeper tone than Schemmel's, still, the first time I ever heard Nozawa it didn't really bother me, so I don't see why people trash her so bad.
It's really silly to me and kinda hypocritical seeing how characters like Freeza had a completely different voice, yet they glorify her over Chris Ayres.
Sauce Uchihahahahahahahaha yes same for me, i grew up with Hindi Dub and then after growing up watched Funimation Dub in the college days where Goku is voiced by a Male and _Yo! Son Goku and his Friends Return_ was my first exposure to Japanese version and i loved everything about it and none of the voices sounded bad to me at all.
yea, you are right the Z Dub fans are hypocritical when they criticize Sub for casting goku as female when their own dub does same with Freeza but the other reason they give to hate sub is that, it's too high Pitched when that's not even the case because Nozawa makes her tone deeper when goku is in fight but for some reason they are okay with their Hello Kitty-on-crack Fat Boo voice which is ear wrenching, unbearable and definition of Shrill high pitched annoying voice to me atleast
Sauce Uchihahahahahahahaha
I generally see people hate Young's Freeza. And the people who prefer her don't usually give good reasoning as to why they like her beyond "he's an alien." It's just nostalgia trying to be rationalized by poor reasoning.
i just think having a woman voicing an adult male is kinda goofy
I wish they used the Dragon Box masters for the new Blu-Rays, uncropped, unenhanced, except to remove slight things that might be there. That way they can have less discs, more episodes per discs, & all of the audio options. That way we'd have the best release of DBZ on Blu-Ray &, hopefully, affordable & in print for a while.
@iNeoCats Because the animation style before DBS Broly was terrible. If they redid the entire series from Dragonball, to the end of Z in the style of the new Broly movie, I would be one of the happiest fans of anything every. But I know they won't which saddens me but eh, what're ya gonna do?
@@izukumidoriyaisssss3049 I mean do you really expect toei to reanimate 444 episodes, Toei has a lot of shows and projects that need attention so it would be a tall order to ask for a shot for shot remake of a series that ran for almost ten years
"But this will not be the last time I tangle Dragon Ball on this channel."
And boy did he keep his word.
"I spent a grand total of $286.93."
Ah yes, about one DBox today.
Nostalgic video.
Craziness. And the sad part is, it really is the best home release you can have legally.
Now there are fan projects of the anime with the colors restored and in 1080p as well with the clean advanced masters. 😮
"they don't make stupid mistakes like that anymore"
Lmao yeah the line REALLY makes the vid outdated, but he didn't know at the time. He was just giving credit where credit was due, but Funimation went on to crop the series again after this.....
God those prices have aged poorly lol
Now you might have to pay $300 for ONE box.
make that $800
They don’t make stupid mistakes like that anymore. Oh my friend, you were so young back then.
“They don’t make stupid mistakes like that anymore.”
Famous Last Words
Yep...
What happened?
@@mightyfighter8305 they continued to make bad home media releases.
Mmmhmm. Discotek never would’ve done that. Or at least, they would’ve made their best efforts to give us something worthwhile. Thankfully I have all the Dragon Boxes, but I feel for those who buy into the Blu-ray "remastering".
I have a few words for you, Fusion. Before I saw your Dragon Box Reviews, I loved the Orange Bricks. I thought they were the best release of DBZ at that moment, and seeing you tear them apart really made me mad. You criticizing the dub, I hated it. Then, I decided, for whatever reason, to buy box 5, and all I can say is...
THANK YOU!
I thought you were exaggerating about the picture being that much better, but you were right on the ball. I have grown to love the japanese audio even more than the dub I loved in the past. Thank You, MistareFusion.
I'm glad I was able to help, and I apologize if my ragging on the dub was over the top. I was younger and sillier when I made my first DBox video over four years ago, and in this one (which is already 2 years old, amazingly) I tried to present a more objective analysis. And that's partly because I wanted to drive the point home that the orange bricks aren't bad because of any dub/sub rivalry but simply because of what was done to them video-wise. It's a shame that the DBoxes are out of print and the Level sets were cancelled (so much for my predictions in this video), and we're now going to be left with a Blu-ray release even WORSE than the orange bricks. Sigh.
MistareFusion Well, maybe we get lucky and funi blu rays the dragon boxes after the backlash they get from these season sets. They could easily have the english soundtrack on a blu ray and not effect the video quality plus blu rays are much more durable
Actually, the new blu-rays are better than the bricks. They contain much more accurate color and don't have those infamous line erasure problems. I guess that since Funi had the DBoxes, they have a better guide for what the colors are SUPPOSED to look like. They also did a much better job of Tilt and Scan and don't cut off important visual elements as badly as they used to (e.g. the commercial bumpers now have Goku and Gohan COMPLETELY in frame and not cutting off heads and mouths like they used to).
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You're still missing a good chunk of footage either way, so still a garbage release.
I've compared the blu-ray side by side with the "Rock the Dragon" edition and noticed that the missing detail was mostly inconsequential and that there actually IS extra detail on the sides of the frame. Another thing that's been largely overlooked is that Funimation actually let fans vote on whether they wanted a 4:3 or widescreen release and they voted for widescreen.
Sucks that the Orange Bricks are super cheap and easier to find than Dragon Box sets. :/
Ueda Yuuji Fan Not really when you consider the blu rays being about the same price but much better quality than the Orange Bricks
@iNeoCats why?
@iNeoCats the blue and green bricks have decent enough video quality, but I'd certainly not say that the orange bricks have good video quality. The cropping, overzealous DNR and ruined colours stop that from being the case. That said, you're completely right that being happy with what you have is the most important thing. It's just a shame that Funimation are unwilling to satisfy everyone, even though they have the tools to do so.
@iNeoCats the orange bricks are not 4:3, them being wide-screen is one of their defining traits.
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@@AlexanderDiviFilius that's just nitpicky bullshit! As long as it's not skipping or 240-360p who gives a flyin fuck! I don't care if people enjoy it on VHS as long as they enjoy it. Everybody always nitpicks TV shows they instead of tuning out and just going with the flow , stop listening to these critics and reviewers. Their eyes aren't your eyes and their ears aren't your ears.
My mind is blown. I learned a lot from this thanks
Apparently, since this was the days before home video, Toei didn't feel compelled to keep the original audio masters (the same holds true for Z as well), so they were aired once, discarded to save room, and never used again.
And later when fans tracked down all the recordings of them, Toei refused to take them.
The Dragon Boxes are the best and most comprehensive DVD release of the series that FUNimation has ever had here. Given that every other release of theirs had previously been sourced from lower quality generational masters they were inherently missing content like the proper OP/ED credits and next episode previews, that was a key issue that the DBoxes rectified in addition to the beautiful video quality. I also like they went with the English dub track from the season sets with the original Japanese score and ditched the replacement broadcast music, as i really don't have much of a deep nostalgia for the Johnson/Team Faulconer scores even though it was on the version which played on Toonami i saw as a child. I prefer to have the music that was originally intended for the series, even if the accompanying dub is so so.
On the point about Kai, i've been getting that over time to have as a companion piece alongside the original if i don't want to watch the crap filler. It also has the advantage of a vastly improved dub from FUNimation's cast as well as far more accurate scripts to the original. It's definitely my preferred way of watching the series dubbed in English as opposed to the wildly inaccurate original in house 1999-2003/2005 dub and 2007 revised Orange Brick Z dub.
I compared footage from Brick 7 and Box 6 and found an alarming number of details missing. Goku's undershirt and boots were black, the gray highlighting on the Black parts of Gohan's Saiyaman suit, Videl's hair, 18's shirt, and the tournament announcer's suit were gone, and everything has an unpleasant yellow tint. I wish I had collected the DBoxes while it was easy and they were cheap. I just didn't see what the big deal was.
"they don't do that anymore" (laughs in Blu-Ray Season Sets, 30th Aniversery Sets and Steelbooks).
Actually, the Blu-Ray season sets are not that bad... IMO.
I might do a vlog-type update condemning its 16:9ness, like what I did about the Star Wars Blu-rays, but since I no longer have an HDTV or Blu-ray player, I can't really review them. (And I certainly don't intend to buy them even if I did.)
i hate watching videos over 5 minutes, but surprisingly i watched your whole 20 min video. i was so absorbed in what you were saying. i really liked this post. keep up the good work!
I can't really say it's the voters' fault. The fact is, your general consumer is not very technically-oriented. They're ignorant of how such things work. For a company to put technical specifications into the hands of the masses is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of, especially when I honestly believe the majority of those who voted for 16:9 already have their TVs set in such a way that it's already zoomed or cropped to 16:9 no matter what disc they put in there, so it'd make no difference.
I Hope They can get the 4:3 Dragon Ball z Stuff in the Future.
I really wish FUNimation would do what Lionsgate did with PR Samurai & put the Dragon Boxes on Amazon as "made to order" orders, so people who want these godsends can get them for a decent price, especially nowadays. For now, I'll stick with Kai's releases.
I just ordered all 7 Dragonbox sets myself woot
I still need the first 4.
Have you tired ebay? thats where I got mine,
Yes, but the problem is money & the fact that I don't have it.
That is the problem, I was glad I had the money for it, idk if the price will keep going up or not
In the UK we have the Orange bricks, but unfortunately it's the only version tat was released over here. No Box, no Rock The Dragon, no Blu-Ray. Just Bricks.
The only reason keeping me from hunting these down over the Blu Ray Season sets is that these don't have the Faulconer Score included.
I just bought the 7 Dragonbox sets today
halogod18 You must be rich lol
Way to waste your money lol🤣
you still got em ?
@@J.Skyler yes
@@J.Skyler I do, why?
So, does Japan have Dragon Boxes for Ball and GT? Because if they do, we need them!
@EnvelTheTrader What Blu-ray movies are you talking about? Dragon Ball movies or movies in general? Because movies in general are rarely cropped anymore. That started going out of fashion in the DVD era.
Man the Dragon Box's would have been perfect if they included the American music, the Blu rays were AMAZING but its a real shame that they got cancelled :'(
Check the Internet Archive. Someone out there has synced the Dragon Box footage with the Faulconer music.
@WolfFistProductions This is the third in a series of DBox reviews, so I didn't want to repeat too much I had already said. The video problems were covered in more detail in the previous two installments. I don't know if you've seen them yet. But if so, and you still aren't sure, then let me know, and I'll shoot you a message.
@TheGamingTurtlez Please feel free to elaborate on Kai, but I feel they did a top notch job on it. They brought in some great new voice talent (Chris Ayres is an amazing Freeza). They kept the scripts mostly accurate. They kept the music intact. They really gave it a respectful and professional treatment for once, and it paid off. This is what the DBZ dub should have been over a decade ago. It's just a shame it took them so long to get to this point of competency.
Re-recorded lines by actors who didn't feel their earlier performances were good (e.g. Chris Sabat's Vegeta, Sonny Strait's Kuririn), completely replaced lines for actors who had left at some point during the series (e.g. Kyle Hebert redoing all the narration previously recorded by Dale Kelley), and missing voice filters on certain characters (e.g. 4th form Freeza and Boo). What's "better" is ultimately going to be up to what it is you're looking for and what's most important to you.
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It's not that it didn't stay popular. It's that it was a limited release, and they sold out. There's quite a difference.
I have never watched any of your vids before. Now I subscribed after watching this.
The some reason is that they discarded all the audio reels back in the day in order to conserve space. But the original broadcasts, make no mistake, are still mono. Just higher quality mono, because, again, the number of channels something is mixed to has no bearing on quality.
@mojojo1993 To go into more detail:
1996-1997: Beginning-Vegeta's departure
1997-1998: There-Goku defeated Reacoom + Movie 3
1999-2000: There-Garlic Jr.
2000-2001: There-Cell arc
2001-2002: Anoyoichi Budoukai-Vegeta's death
2002-2003: There-End of series
The '98-'99 season did not feature any new episodes,as Saban had stopped syndicating the show. But it was the season that Cartoon Network broadcast the reruns, leading to the rest of the series being dubbed starting the next season.
In the picture I showed at that point, they added fake grain to the "before" side to make it look worse. They claimed the 16:9 added more footage, which was patently false. 20% of the image was cropped to make it 16:9. The miniscule amount of added footage (~5%) on the sides was due to their rescanning of the film, not the 16:9 aspect ratio. And there was a comparison image between the two ratios that, while not outright lying, was misleading to make it look like the 16:9 had more image.
I wish they were still worth the money. They are 200$ about. I will eventually get them but y did they have to go outa print
Man, were you probably disappointed when the announcement for the new DBZ blu-rays, or as they should be called, the orange bricks re-release, considering that they're pretty much the orange bricks, but on a new format, huh, Mistare?
MistareFusion where do u recommend I buy the dragon boxes, I got no. 5 off amazon, but the rest are more expensive there. Anyplace else u recommend or should I just start saving :). I live in Australia.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure where you'll be able to find them cheaply. This video is over two years old, and I did not anticipate them becoming so rare so quickly. I got them when they first came out, so I was able to get a good deal, but now demand has far outstripped supply, so those who sell them can get away with charging higher prices for them. But, yeah, all I can say is to follow sites like eBay and Amazon, and maybe you'll get lucky. But you probably will have to save up.
+MistareFusion Were to find them cheaply. Nowhere, anyone looking for a cheap copy might as well give up hope nowadays.
@TheGamingTurtlez And, yes, I do hate the orange bricks. FUNimation gave me far too many reasons to hate them. Obviously you're not required to agree, but I would be interested to hear what your reactions/opinions are to all the reasons, particularly the more major ones, as I wouldn't have had much of a problem with the smaller issues if they were the only problems, I listed.
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What were your thoughts on funimation cancelling the level sets
@@ssj2rhandy Legend has it the uploader will stop replying to you.
Your reviews are always fun to watch keep up the good work.
@mojojo1993 Thank you for your kind words. And while I do agree that your divisions are the proper story arcs, that's not the same as seasons. A "season" in television is a set number of episodes produced/purchased for a given year of broadcast. And in that sense, DBZ was split into six parts in its original US run.
I want the Dragon Boxes, but I don't have the money for them :(
Super Saiyan Blue Waffle
Pretty sure only 0.009% of people have the money for the Dragon Boxes.
Try saving your money. :)
Hey do you think that they will start printing more copies of the DBZ Dragonbox copies. I find it's getting hard to find Volume 1, and Volume 2 of the Dragonboxes at reasonable prices. Like whenever I go to places like Amazon I find that just Volume 2 alone is like between 400-1000 dollars a copy. When I can find DBZ Dragonbox 1 for like just a little over 100 dollars. What's up with that?
Okay. Since you didn't technically answer the question. I'll try to reword the question to get the answer. Which dub do you think is better. Pre-Christopher Sabat or Post-Brian Drummond?
i think he prefers ocean over early in house funi
Soon after finishing their dub of the rest of the series, around 2005-ish, they went back and redubbed those episodes uncut with their in-house voice cast. Those are on all current products, so if you mean those, no, they aren't. The audio from seasons 3 and 4 (actual season #s, corresponding roughly orange brick seasons 3-6) was changed in some places, redubbing certain characters like Chris Sabat's Vegeta and actors who had since left (Ginyu, the narrator).
So, it turns out I saw these Dragon Box videos of yours when they first came out 5 years ago and only recently stumbled upon your channel again thanks to Dragon Ball Dissection. Lol!
First time I've watched you review but I must say you really but a great perspective on the Dragonboxes, and well pretty much you put a great description on Dragonball Z, and series put together, and which convinced me to buy the Dragonboxes now, and not just the new Blu Ray levels. I hope to see more of your opinions on the Dragonball series, and many other keep it up.
Short answer, though, is that the English audio track on the Dragon Boxes is EXACTLY the same as the 5.1 English option on the orange bricks. So if you didn't like it there, it's not going to be a different experience for you here.
I'm happy you addressed my question about which is the best box set so far. Excellent work as always.
I got so excited when I saw this in my sub box
When you do a dragon ball vid its always EPIC WIN
I'm not sure why you think I dislike "Saiya-jin." In fact, I use it all the time. However, in my videos, I usually go for "Saiyan" if for no other reason than to prove to people that you can Anglicize the word properly without butchering the pronunciation like FUNimation did.
The only thing Toei messed up in the Dragon Box big time is their audio quality. Why didn't they just keep the original recordings, which sounded way more clearer than the optical audio and broken tapes they used?
@craddle15 Yeah, I'm not sure why I didn't mention that. I know I thought about it.
While the original audio track was indeed not preserved by Toei, it was still mono. Mono has nothing to do with the level of quality. It simply means the data is mixed to a single speaker. Dragon Ball only began using a stereo soundtrack at GT, I believe.
Plot holes are not opinionated.
And no, I never once said that. I have stated that Kai is superior in terms of dubbing quality for BOTH dubs(even on the Dragon Boxes, the Japanese audio isn't all that good). You can prefer the original to Kai as much as you want. I never once said you couldn't. But you are literally claiming "the original is better than Kai will ever be because opinion." You just keep hiding behind the opinion card.
Yes he did. He wrote the manga. THAT'S CANON.
I just wish they'd release the original series' damn Dragon Box sets already. Those should've come out before Z.
I have long been a follower of DBZ Abridged, and I even referenced it in my Dragon Ball Dissection series. In short, I love it.
The DVD singles are uncensored versions of what aired on Toonami. Everything else since has been altered/partially re-recorded/rescripted etc.
Wow. That "Before & After" screenshot of the scene for your explanation of their ad campaign, didn't look any different, from 1 side, to another. At least, not what I saw.
I have the first 6 orange brick dvd's and i am conflited to finishing the set or starting from scratch and collecting the dragon boxes. I do like the box sets but i dont mind the orange bricks sets that much. I do wish they put more effort into them so we would not have to chose between two sets.
@EnvelTheTrader No, that's not correct. Widescreen does not inherently imply cropping. It does in the case of Dragon Ball because it was not originally widescreen. It has to be cropped to achieve that aspect ratio. Likewise, before widescreen TVs, most movies were cropped FROM widescreen for their home releases, resulting in lost footage on the sides rather than the top and bottom. It's all relative to how it was originally shot/presented, and terms like "fullscreen" and "widescreen" mislead.
Wow, time flies, it's already time for a whole series review? I really need to grab Dragon Boxes 6 and 7...
Glad to see another solid review video, you definitely keep them interesting, even when doing products I (mostly) already have.
I can't really speak for the movies. I believe the last 3 "seasons" correspond to the last two actual seasons, the Majin Boo arc. And in regards to that, it would simply be because they did it later, so they had gotten better in their writing abilities. Even though the first two seasons were redubbed, they still largely used the same scripts from 1996-1997, so it didn't make much difference in that department.
A big reason why American anime fans get gypped on home releases is because "reverse importing" is very popular in Japan (yes, they buy our DVD sets in Japan). And this is because the local anime releases are insanely expensive compared to the American counterparts, so Japanese companies will often intentionally give the US an inferior version to discourage reverse importing.
4:31 back when Funimation started dubbing GT, they had received Dragon Box GT master material. That’s why the GT Singles and Dragon Box look almost identical, minus the bitrate.
I assume you're referring to the Japanese side. So, no. What he means is that the original audio reels were discarded after the original airings, leaving only the lower-quality audio track imprinted on the video reels to be used for future releases.
As it stands, the highest quality we will have are the blu-ray DBZ Kai sets. Say what you will about Kai but it is the most faithful version to the manga. The voice acting leagues ahead of Z, the violence reduced to the manga standards, and even redone animation in some episodes as well as a script much more accurate to the original Japanese one. Plus with the announcement Kai is getting a Buu saga, its a fact the highest quality is the Bluray Kai sets.
Aw, you're just adorable when you're needlessly confrontational. I don't think you had enough hugs as a kid.
@PrinceofSaiyajins456 Like I said, he's not a jerk. He's not gonna rant and rail because people liked it, he's not gonna say they're not fans, he's not gonna attack people that took the time to animate it.
The problem however, is that they DID change some things, they DID make too many guesses.
Stories for the most part were fine. It was the padding that was horrible. However, they made some big mistakes a couple times. Such as....
But even in that case, the music, scripting, and performances are what make the product itself. So, yes, I'm more interested in seeing the actual product than seeing a reversioning of it. Doesn't mean I won't necessarily check it out. I mean, I made a five part video series doing an in-depth comparison between Super Sentai and Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.
@FutureGohanSSJ2 But you don't see him as a scared kid throughout. In the manga, you see him letting dinosaurs chase him for fun. The anime shows how he got to that point. Like I said, deciding not to run away from training is completely different from spontaneously freaking over the scary bald man with murderous intent. If one's a contradiction, then so is the other. I don't think either is. The year changes him, but preparing for something is a very different emotional beast from doing it.
Well, last I checked, there is no "plan" at the moment. FUNimation did put out a survey earlier this year in regards to releasing more Dragon Boxes, which series is most desired, etc. But there's been no word in regards to the survey since then. There's also been an unofficial statement that FUNimation would like to do *a* release of Dragon Ball in 2013. Many people conflate those two to assume that 2013 will see a Dragon Box, but there's been nothing official to say so.
Which DVD/Blu-ray sets is considered the Definitive version of watching Dragon Ball Z?
Great videos on dragon ball man I like how you don't call out people who can tolerate the widescreen and prefer the Faulconer score "casual fans". We all like Z. The same story, the same characters, and the same action. I myself have all the dragon boxes. The season set blue rays. And kai on blu ray. Preferring one version over another doesn't make you less of a fan or more of fan. Even though you don't need it, my respect goes out to you man.
@theprojectsproductio They didn't change them. They just faded a bit. I have heard they are not as revered as they are over here, but, especially considering they are the only release Japan has ever had, I have a hard time believing it could ever be as reviled as the orange bricks.
Very difficult to answer. Video-wise, no, as what was shown on CN wasn't cropped to widescreen, didn't have the brightness cranked up, and wasn't DVNR'd to death. Audio-wise, that partly depends on when you watched it. FUNimation dubbed the first 67ish episodes (condensed to 53) back in 1996-1997 with the Ocean voice cast, and those were rerun on CN for several years.
Like I said, some of it is. Some of it has them having re-recorded their lines so they're no longer doing imitations.
The Ocean cast actually came back to finish the series and GT separately from Funimation after the latter started hiring in house voice actors. It's really hard to come by in North America though. They apparently even did their own dub of Kai separate from Funimation. I never seen footage of it though.
The Ocean cast didn’t do GT, Ocean’s sister studio Blue Water did. None of the Ocean voice actors are in that dub. Blue Water also did a dub of OG Dragon Ball. Plus, fans recently remastered the later Ocean episodes of Z using DBox footage, so it’s pretty easy to get now.
You should send me a copy of the DVDs, lmao. These things are way too expensive nowadays! I can't the cropping and the American soundtrack (I like the dub because it's what I watched as a kid). I wish they'd re-release the dragon boxes again because I'd grab em in a heart beat!
Well until then I'm saving money to get them off Ebay.
PhantomAnime "ドラゴンボール超" It's not really worth it. If you have enough then I say go with the Blu-Ray edition.
Yeah, I got the Orange Boxes, found out Funi were re-releasing DBZ as box, stopped paying attention then realized too late that Dragon Boxes went out of print really quickly... I still don't have Volumes 1 and 2 for Box. Though, I did get the Rock the Dragon set.
@MistareFusion It contradicts the fact that in the filler, he already adopted the "I won't run away anymore" mantra and then freking runs without hesitation when facing Nappa.
When a character has already had that epiphony and yet still runs later, that's false conflict. They regressed to a former character trait for the sake of a single plot point.
At least seeing that he's still a scared little kid throughout makes more sense than seeing all that traumatic BS and yet still freaking out.
What I don't understand is that according to the Bardock special, Goku was just a baby when Planet Vegeta was destroyed, but when Raditz came to Earth (when Goku was an adult), he said that Planet Vegeta had been destroyed only three years ago. Sure, a year is probably going to be a different length on Vegeta than on Earth, but he said that the other saiyans would arrive in one year, and that corresponded exactly to an Earth year.
The "Ocean dub" (on DVD) only went up to the second box set, so it's not like there's much choice.
The Level Blu-ray sets look great! It's like actually watching the 16mm film.
I personally found the kai openings looking pretty good. Sure not as good as alot of openings, but it still looks nice. What are your thoughts on the new blu rays that have 16:9?
muhammed sabally I think they're absolute garbage. They're the orange bricks 2.0. Certainly better than their predecessor but an infuriating return to an insulting business practice they never should have dabbled in. Losing picture, smoothing away detail, hideously altering the colors... there is nothing good about these. Nothing.
MistareFusion I know, I was pissed aswell.
MistareFusion the dbox are certainly the best release's of dbz.I bought the first blu ray for 5 dollars, to a friend and they suck balls over saturation,inconsistent coloring,terrible grain removal,razor sharp lines and awful color palette.the cropping is not as bad as the orange bricks but is still bad regardless
Dragon box 1 all the other dbz release's 0,excluding the level cause they're discontinued
rob I also thought the Kai blurays were amazing.
muhammed sabally kai is decent not good but not bad the blu rays sucked balls but kai was pretty decent
I would certainly praise it and recommend. Would I buy it? I'm not sure. I'm (mostly) perfectly satisfied with my DBoxes. I'm not made of money, I don't feel a need to own every Dragon Ball product, and I can see myself not feeling I need anything else at this point, even if it is an improvement. At the moment, I feel satisfied using my chapter skip button to watch the NEPs in correct order and putting in my specials discs at the proper time. So I don't know...
I wonder, since you've said you're an original series trekie, would you do a version of this video for the remastered version releases of the original series, possibly vs the original 60s versions for the space scenes? Also, possibly the same type of thing for TNG, if you've seen the blu-ray remasters & the original versions of the episodes for that show too. Just a thought to hear your thoughts on the subject(s).
@FutureGohanSSJ2 I don't know. The Saiya-jin arc is actually much stronger in the anime than how Toriyama wrote it, especially in regards to Gohan's character development. I'd say some slow pacing later on is worth it just for that. But in general, from the beginning of DB through the Saiya-jin arc, filler is actually worth watching. But after that, Toei seems to have gotten incredibly lazy and gave up on actually making filler storylines and just made it into standing around for minutes.
what is said during 18:40 - 19:30 i can't seem to hear anything even at max volume
It was a blooper reel. Unfortunately, the music I used to underscore it was flagged for copyright, and so TH-cam silenced the audio.
"A little bit of house-"
Not sure if Kai had to fix them. Most of the damaged frames were from the multiple generation copies that FUNimation was using. A lot of those weren't present on the o-neg that the DBoxes and, later, Kai, sourced. Not much was 35mm, just a few episodes around where Piccolo fights Freeza. And the latter depends on how you want to watch it in English, as there are so many versions and redubs and such. In general, I would have said the Blu-ray, but since it was cancelled...
@ 10:05 I didn't know FUNi lied to us about the orange boxes... What was there add campaign? What exactly did they say?
@Bam9336 It had six in America. When season 4 ended with the Cell Games there were still about 100 episodes left of the series, so season 5 ended with Vegeta sacrificing himself to kill Boo.
It's here! It's here!
What about them, specifically?
which set should iiii get? i want the set to have every episode ever made but i don;t want to read japanese text or hear it.
It's not letting me post the link, but you can buy them on Amazon.com :)
Do you think the Dragon Boxes will be released in the UK? We now have DBZ on DVD but its the orange bricks :/
@FutureGohanSSJ2 In the manga, we see Gohan, and he does nothing but cry in the wilderness and is trapped on a mountain. Then he gets his tail chopped off, and the next time we see him, he's completely mastered living in the wild. From crybaby to independent feral child is something that Toriyama really should have at least glossed over.
What still confounds me about the orange bricks, is that FUNimation doesn't go back & redo their masters for them, where it's put back into it's 4:3 proper aspect ratio.