HHO Engine Running on Hydrogen and Oxygen Gas 5-31-2008
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Engine Running on Hydrogen and Oxygen Gas 5-31-2008
We ran another test again on June 6, 2008 and our findings were as follows. When the engine is not getting enough HHO gas and it is running slow as you see in the video it has the tendency of backfiring. We doubled the balloons one inside another that add more pressure and the engine ran a lot faster without any backfires. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
At least you have the guts to experiment and actually share your results. Great start, and eventually you'll get your fuel ratios and timing figured out :) Thanks for sharing.
Look up the fire triangle
I was thinking "Hmm When's it gonna backfire? And goes BOOM!
VanityTheMaster Hydrogen isn't that dangerous fool! Three quarters of the universe is hydrogen. You may have even breathed some hydrogen in before. If you put hydrogen on fire it will just pop.
+Danyal Ahmad i believe some of our atmosphere is hydrogen so we are breathing it right now :p
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Thank you for a very practical demo.
You are on the compression release thats why it is back fireing it never spun fast enough to sling the compression release weight out
what's impressive is that he is squirting the HHO straight into the carbs intake, which is also sucking in oxygen from the atmosphere, into a engine designed and tuned to run on gasoline...and it still runs!!
If you hook it directly to the fuel source it will blow up, you have to make a percolator like how a bong has and it will reduce the chances of the flame going back up the line and exploding your reaction chamber
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good job!!! You put alot of work into this and other videos don't let the children bring you down they are full of ego and pride with no interest of helping others only bringing them down!!!!
I was really impressed as to your guts of filling a Ballon and trying to make it safe trial. I was really trying to find if someone has ran a small 4-stroke engine like you have shown solely on HHO gas and here you are showing the video. One question is that how many Liters per Min of Output would you need from a HHO generator in order to run that Engine of that size (probably 100cc Engine). Your comments will be very helpful.
Be sure to call us when your astounding breakthrough makes the international headlines, Kassim. Good luck.
(think we'll ever hear from him again?)
They've even been requiring new cars to be more and more fuel efficient every year and have already planned to ban gasoline powered cars pretty soon, every cars manufacturer dreams to make their caar the most efficient and cheap to operate so if you think there's a conspiracy to make cars gasoline powered or inefficient you're just beyond being capable of grasping reality.
Gasoline vapor does not "pop" when ignited, it makes a "whoosh" sound but HHO will pop loud enough to make your ears ring. This is because the gases expand faster than the speed of sound. This means the flame inside the combustion chamber moves faster than the speed of sound, igniting more of the gasoline droplets quicker and allowing more of the gasoline to burn completely. The gasses will hit the top of the piston near the speed of sound, converting more mechanical energy to the piston.
you can run those engines off of almost anything. yesterday i started and ran one off of a can of deodorant when the carburetor of the cement mixer clogged up. have you tried to up the flow rate of the incoming gas? you will most probably get it to run similarly to what it would on gasoline, as for the timing on those there is most probably a pick up on the flywheel that can be welded up and grinded away to move the time of spark forwards or backwards. You could also remove the the carb completely and use a 1" metal tube for intake with a 3/8" copper tube into that for the gas. put some pressure behind it and control the speed of the motor with a flow meter on the 3/8" tube similar to those used on mig welders. check out cody's lab(youtube channel, good lad) where he builds an electrolyser that seperates the o2 and h2 to use for cutting and brazing. that can be modified to use as a stored fuel source running the motor out of a gas reserve. I'm just speculating here but with a little fine tuning you could make something quite viable and off grid if you take the time to do the homework.
so cool I love the concept
I know this was posted 12 years ago, but do we have any idea how many LPM a balloon flows through that hose/nozzle? Great idea using the ballon for a nearly constant flow rate at the beginning. I guess I’ll be doing some testing of my own.
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very good demonstration.. thk u for this
The intake valve doesn't have a chance to close before ignition takes place because HHO ignites and expands much faster than an air fuel mixture.Thats why your engine is backfiring.
Great job guys. I also very much appreciate your open source mentality on the FBA, as well as other things. As long as we keep working TOGETHER sharing information, we will crack the code and make things different in the world for everyone.
Onve again, great job!
Lefty
big company's will never invest into this because there's no money in it. its our job to change the future i guess and it starts with HHO cars.
you know what else works for flashback?
3 different grades of steel wool from fine to coarse in a pvc tube, cheap and easy to make in all different sizes
I was wondering how a cdi equipped engine might be taught to differentiate between gasoline or Brown's gas feed. I know that computerized vehicles can vary themselves in all sorts of ways, from the timing, # of cylinders working and the timing of the valves as well. I was thinking that the temperature of the power stroke might be a determining factor but I'm not that electronically savvy
It s a good demonstration. Thank you for your effort. Eng.Chandana
And I'm still marvelling at how you can take something that's a pure compound of H + O, split it to just those, and somehow then have a molecule with H23 in it ... that will readily burn in a normal automotive engine just with a tweak to the timing. You can't even burn decane in one, usually, without tons of smoke and a marked loss of power and efficiency, even with radically altered timing.
Have you been able to accelerate this motor with your hydrogen setup and what about rusting the piston rings and it freezing up the motor have you experienced any of that yet
so if i wanted to add an HHO generator to my car but make it run as a petrol HHO hybrid ... do i just put the out put of the HHO generator cell in front of the air intake of the car?
I was doing this in the 90's, running a 5 hp petrol engine on Brown 's Gas made by solar panels. The gas was fed through a water column and taken off the top to prevent burn back. I had my engine running at full throttle as smooth as silk. Not timing adjustment being necessary.. was very sad at the passing of professor Brown.
Very interesting. Thanks for the vid. Any progress on getting rid of the backfiring yet?
4 years later and no reply...
Big oil, um, "oiled him"...
hi ! some questions : this was gasoline or diesel engine ? and what's, more or less the compression ratio ? hydrogen has a very high auto-ignition temperature, like 550 degrees, and i think that the spark can't burn at maximum all the gas mixture.
i'm studing for making a hydrogen motor but i'm not sure that the work i'm doing is right! and what is the stoichiometric ratio air/hidrogen ? 1 : 3 ?
What is the ratio of the H2&O2 combustion process??
Pls tell me the answer quickly......
thank you
can you tell me how to change the timing of the spark please? i need to know by tomorrow, for a collage deadline, if you could that would be most help full! cheers!
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I've noticed you' ve been filling the baloon for approx 1 minute and whit the collected hho you' ve been able to run the engine idling for approx 1 minut 20 seconds.
That should mean that your welder produces enough hho to run that engine continuosly.
Just for the sake of curiosity, I't b great to compare the cost of the used electricity to the cost of the fuel for the same running time period : )
Nice video, Thanks
pjackt well i congratulate you for your videos i saw al your videos but i just wonder how much presure you need to run a car with hho i saw another video with a HHO DRY CELL and they explained that we need about 55 amps and it will produce about 60 psi of presure but i also wonder how we compres the hho gas
I'm also trying it to make as my minor project will you pls guide me!
how do I control the flow of hydrogen gas??
Guys, cool demo, its great that you are exploring this subject. I know you can run an engine with HHO as you have demonstrated, but I believe the holy grail of all this would be effeicent production of the gas. You may have already adressed this and if so , I appologize. I can make a cell to produce any amount of HHO that one would need, however it may also dim the lights on a big city. Effeicent production is the key. I'm still learning, and I thank you for your dedication.
The quest for over unity continues! It's possible to run a 4stroke generator (creating enough energy to make it's own gas) to at least gather the heat from the process. What I've gleaned is that any real external load attempt stops the engine.
Agree it was a lean back fire, helped also by cam overlap period. The engine was idling very low indeed.
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that looks like one of my x's in highschool lol nice job
Very nice!
Hi, how do you do engine tuning? I run the engine with gasoline but not with the HHO only. Any advice?
Good video !
Part of my background is as an Automotive technician, and have worked on all manner of vehicles/engines for years. I also hold an MSc in Oil and Gas Engineering, so know a thing or two about this subject. The "pop" you talk about, needed for the combustion stroke in an engine - the amount of Hydrogen that is produced from these "HHO generators", the force/energy required from the explosion created, is next to nothing from the Hydrogen produced. No effect on an engine whatsoever.
I wonder if you could hook up an alternator to the hydrogen powered engine and possibly power the hydrogen electrolysis process
same Idea
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can I connect directly to the hydrogen cylinder?
Proszę przestawić zapłon lekko do przodu tak, aby następował chwilę po przejściu tłoka po punkcie sprężania. Wodór szybciej się spala od benzyny. Pozdrawiam z Polski.
Please shift the ignition slightly forward so that it is just a moment after the piston passes the compression point. Hydrogen burns up faster than gasoline. Greetings from Poland.
Big Thanks for upload, you have a beer :)
What's more, since the average car's alternator can only deliver about 80A of current, this means the battery would have to deliver the other 520A and (in the case of even a good 80AH unit) would be flat in under 10 minutes. Of course these simple calculations ignore the fact that electrolysis cells are not 100% efficient and the even more important fact that the average internal combustion engine is only around 30% efficient.
its all about cost at the pump not efficientcy
I have changed gas engines to Propane many times. This is what i found. The Air mix has to be mixed with propane at a balance. Your Carb has a butterfly to regulate the air and at idle speed, it is mostly closed. It will not backfire with the right amount of HHO . I have run engines with no carb. and just get the Air and gas to the desired amount. For instance if the butterfly in the carb was wide open, you would need much more gas and the RPM would be very high.
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How many volts do you get with it gas ?
if you pay attention to the concepts described by Stan Meyers for adjusting the burn rate to match the engine,then its a short leap of thought to mixing welding gas with the HHO to reduce the burn rate.
you would want to seal the intake also,to stop mixing air at unmetered doses.
great job5 stars and favoured
how much power (in watts) does it take to make how much per minuter (in liters per min) of gas?
For example, if you're in Europe, a pre-1996 VW Polo will do you just fine, as all their engines used mechanical timing advance (even the ones with a solid state coil used mechanically adjusted triggering). I suspect Golfs of a similar vintage, or maybe slightly older, had a matching setup.
I should know, I owned one, and had to reset the timing after overhauling it by rotating the distributor back and forth.
And any half decent chip-tuner can alter your ignition mapping for you quite cheaply.
Nice video
Yeah! set the ignition timing so that combustion and expansion happens after or during the piston at top dead center.That will push the piston on the down stroke , instead of out the carburetor. pass the word. Good luck.
It's amazing how simple the hho device can be to convert water to hho .U need to metal plate and 2 wires and a battery source and water . That is it . I will try just wires spread in water and a battery source to get hho . Do we need the plates ?
nicely illustrated , ! good job! I like to see a rubbish bin bag of the gas, aloft can you do this ?
Would you please let me know the model of the hho machine and how much is that and where the website that I can find and buy it ,thank you. you.
so you can just take the carb off and feed it straight into the intake? and hook up your own throttle? Im thinking of making a hydrogen gokart engine so I dont have to go to the gas station all the time and just make it in the back of my car
when i first realized that HHO is better than petrol i thought it was this big loch ness monster mystery. now i realize that HHO actually can be made with water and electricity, then the HHO can be combusted alone to make electricity. the only thing you might run out of is water and electrolytes
Why was the balloon out of frame while the engine was running? It would be more informational to see the size/consumption.
le temps de reaction du gaz hho est superieur au gaz d essence il faut donc retirer de l avance a l allumage .
i cant control the timing on my moder diesel without taking a load of pulleys off and the timing chain cover which is several hours work. so basically if i dont want to do this work theres no point me getting a hho generator ?
Both of you are right. The mixture is too lean because the perfect HHO ratio is offset by outside air. when outside air is inhaled, other molecules like nitrogen make it backfire and idle roughly. secondly the timing plays an important role, Rpm is essential. the timing between explosion and implosion has to be just right. otherwise the implosion of the H2O after the explosion stroke will dim the engine. and finally cylinder temperature must also be right. Overall a Great demonstration!
cool only if I could aford one of those HHO generators in all its cool just need to build a presure tank to hold the gas so you can send more to the tank at once but its all cool. thanks for the video.
would this work on a flat head briggs as well?
That’s an HHO with a load bang! Well, why not try to infused only HYDROGEN without the OXYGEN? I’m sure your engine should run more smoothly because HYDROGEN itself is pure power!
Good job Pete.So that was a 5.5 HP Honda engine and there was no mods done on the engine? Thanks for posting.
Time for more v12 racing =)
It's because the hydrogen burns at a FASTER rate rather than instantaneous as you said.
And the reason it's back firing is because the engine has too advanced ignition timing and because it's running too slowly. If you were to have the engine throttled up a fair amount via bypassing the governor and having the throttle held more open, you'd have much less issues with it. You may not even have to adjust the ignition if you can get it running faster.
ddo you have any idea how many liters per minute your using to idle that motor? Also how many watts?
These days you can buy a dry cell cheaper than you can build one .
can you weld steel with that welder?
thats very nice, every neithgbour wakes up when i go to work at 4 am !!! "PUM PUM"
You should build your own fuel cell using carbon rods or graphite plates way more efficient and look into the TEG thermal electric generator attached to exhaust and cooled by AC lines and solar in combination with the alternator and battery
The backfiring is also from too lean a fuel mixture. The engines governor is holding the throttle butterfly wide open waiting for engine speed to reach governed speed. Try covering the choke plate more or completely...after all the fuel is already mixed with oxygen...it shouldnt really need any extra air
the back fire is the timing because hho burns very quickly you need to light it at tdc this is basic hho stuff , unless you mix the hho with non combustible gasses to change the burn rate you have to change the timing pull the flywheel take the key out and figure out where tdc is basically its like 10 degrees opposite of normal rotation . the engine is fighting itself
Is the engine was more heated than gasoline??
Sir its back firing due to lean fuel ,increase in gas will stop it
It seems lean the mixture would be lean due to the intake. The browns gas has oxygen in it already so you could restrict the air coming in from the carb?
You are absolutely correct you do not need all the ambient air when you run oxyhydrogen. In the video, the copper tube went in as deep as possible through the carburetor to deliver the gas to get it as close to the intake valve as possible reducing the travel time and dilution of ambient air.
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would it be safe to run a carb. engine car off of a hho dry cell kit. i've been studying for a few days now on how to amp up a gas booster kits to run 10% gas (with acetone mixed), and 90% hydrogen gas. Would the backfiring ignite the hho inlet and ignite the hydrogen in the tanks and go through to the generator and mess up the whole system? I was thinking if you added copper mesh where the hho fuel line travels into the 2 into 1 dual inlet fuel pressure regulator that it wouldn't do that
Is that machine creating hydrogen gas from water
this works, only thing is that gas actually helps cool and lubricate the cylinder walls on the motor, but this will work with advancements. but we will still need oil to lubricate all the bearing in motor
good job, really nice, ill try this out, on a grass cutter^^
I hope that nothing explode
will you one day try to compress the hho into a airtank and try it as a working and more usable fuel? that will be great
Wow! Proof of principal.
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problem is stan was not running on just HHO he was injecting water into the engine.
HHO was just a fuel to heat the water to steam in the cylinder.
if steam becomes hot enough it also will separate into it's components of hydrogen and oxygen and ignite causing more ignition.
BTW, what power is your PV cell (and how much did it cost), and how many hours of full power running (on HHO -alone-) do you get from that, for what power of engine? How big / expensive the battery and what tech?
the back firing is the decompressor lifting the inlet valve on the compression stroke all you need to be is go above the rpm that switchs the decompressor off
Basicly all fuels (even including wood, newspapers,etc,etc)produce water when combusted, because they are all hydrogen fuels.
Best use of HHO Engine running on Hydrogen and Oxygen Gas
@pjckac1 why is it dangerous is it the psi. and how do you seperate it.
that ran for a supprisingly long time
Trying to think back to my University Chemistry days so many decades ago. I think the energy comes from the difference in energy between the covalent bonds of H2 and O2 and those present in H2O. Is that right? I guess I could Google it.
thank you, I am working in same field but by nanotechnology , that is vary nice thank so much kassim
Thats Cool
Do those small Nylon rally work with just the pressure from a balloon... because lots have to have like 50lb. pressure to work... so are they low pressure arresters...
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imagine if roads were built with copper rods or wires in them and these branched off into houses and such creating a 'grid' then the excess power from your hho car's turbine would then be discharged onto the road and used by everyone :D eliminating the need for powerstations as driving your car would effectively power your home. just an idea that popped into my head just now.
In fact, a quick google and a click on the first link that actually featured a purchaseable solar panel (rather than a "$30m solar scheme" or whatever) saw me looking at a 30 watt one ... ok, close enough, we can work with that.
RRP £80, which is approx $120.
Divide both by 4, ignoring that larger/higher output panels are usually cheaper per-watt...
That's 7.5 watts for $30. Wow, so amazing. I could very nearly run a netbook on that. But not quite.
Plus when you use hydrogen on a small motor like that it turns into a more powerful engine because it's more explosive so it probably is around six and a half horsepower when you do that.
Rust is not a problem. Recombination does not happen until the gases are cooled by the exhaust pipes as it leaves the car. Most people are not aware of the fact that because the speed the gases explode. A vacume is created by it. That is why engines run cooler than when using slow burning petro-products.