Having died more than once and speaking much first hand experience to how Heaven, the Earth, and other realms are setup, I can tell you suicide is no escape from anything and actually makes it far worse on you! Something to never forget. If you die on Earth most ways you usually end up places other than the Earth but in the case of suicide, you end up perfectly alive on Earth like nothing happened other than perhaps notice some small changes to what you know as Earth may be slightly different. You end up on a parallel Earth which is usually nearly identical with the same or n perhaps even worse troubles for you and though you wer successful killing yourself where you were originally, you begin to doubt that because all indications in the alternate Earth is a different course of events where that was not the case at all and in this loop you forever stay alive seemingly stuck on Earth. A situation actually worse than concepts of hell for most people.
@@enigmagroup413 You are one lost soul. No such thing what you are posting, 2Corinthians 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 2Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) 2Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. Saved people will be where ever Jesus is, which is at the right hand of the Father.
Me too. Got saved when I was 23. I know that I know that I know if I hadn't got saved when I did, I wouldn't be here. Be dead and in hell. I would had killed myself. So, when I tell people He saved me and He GAVE me life, I say, "Literally!!". 😊
That's not biblical. And how do you know when your " highly conscious 🤔 😳 enough??? You can't possibly know all your sins and how do you know your sorry enough LONG enough!! What is you struggle for years then let your guard down on a random tues and get hit by a bus. Oops I know I let my son literally die for you but yeah you unfortunately died while having an impure thought... This What your describing is ANOTHER GOSPEL. The real Godpel is Jesus + nothing ( not how sorry or conscious your are). Or how much you struggle. 😀 My yoke is easy my burden is light Jesus said that. 🙏 hope you get free from legalism, its worse than you understand. Godbless
@@j-life8502 You are approaching this with the mindset of a Pharisee or some other kind of legalistic perfectionist who believes they must work it all out on their own maintaining constant awareness about whether they were re "conscious" enough or "sorry enough" to keep walking with God. If we do not a random collision with a Mack truck may well send us to hell. This is not what traditional believers in free will think. It is just a straw man constructed by believers in antinomianism. When you make a straw man argument, you’re essentially arguing against an IMAGINARY scarecrow. It’s an easy way to make your argument sound infallible-and that’s what makes it a LOGICAL FALLACY. Regarding Matthew 11:28: Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Did Christ say look at my yoke, study and admire it in the abstract? No, He said Take my YOKE UPON you. An ox does not wear a yoke as a decoration. The yoke UNITES Master and Animal together in the common purpose of doing the master's WILL. It is WORK but since the Holy Spirit helps us do it the work is not laborious but LIGHT and brings rest not like the yoke of the Law which Peter said neither he nor his fathers could bear.
When we are saved by faith, we are saved from the debt of our former sins. All of them. SO THAT we can go forward practicing righteousness without an unpaid debt hanging over us.
But being saved from our former sins isn’t the same thing as receiving eternal life in heaven. That comes thru obedience AFTER that debt is paid. Once we’ve established our obedience to God, we are chosen by God to be given to Christ. Those given to Christ in that manner remain with him. Many are called, few are chosen.
Nick Shim2018 amen!!!!!! There is two kinds of sinners 1. An unsaved sinner 2. A saved sinner. Jesus doesn’t die over and over and over and over for every sin committed, he died one time for all sins IF we believe in his shed blood that died for our sins we have eternal salvation.
@@bobbyadkins6983 How can you just walk away from God when he lives in you? Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Ephesians 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. 1Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 1Corinthians 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. John 10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. John 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. John 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. John 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. John 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. John 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep. John 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. John 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. Will not the Good Shepherd leave the 99 to find the lost? if you are saved , you cannot just change your mind & leave.
Terrance Tisdale “and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to the working of his great might” Ephesians 1:19 I think it was meant as a closing statement. Like we can’t kept salvation on our own and thank God for it bc it’s His great power at work in us who He saves. At least that was how I interpreted it
In my personal walk with christ, there have been times I have backslid, however, just in those backsliding time when my fleshly spirit did the things that didnt agree and life started to take a turn for the worse, God never gave up on me he sent laborers on the way and put me in circumstances where i had no choice but to turn back to him. Granted it is a growing process because my backsliding was a result of getting sucked in by the lies of the enemy and i fell farther into sin but i didnt originally intend to sin. Each time when he restores me and pulls me back i grow in knowledge of him. To me it reminds me of when God starts a work in you hes gonna finish it. God bless
Jon Singleton i think possibly i said it wrong i always have asked God back into my life and repented and rededicated my life at those times but I dont think God gives up on his people. However people give up on him and what he says.
Jon Singleton I have followed much of your thread and it appears that you are striving hard to debate with others to prove them wrong because you believe you have it all down, drawn out and put together. Brother, if you want to talk about something Biblical your talking it, it’s that biblical term Pride. To assume your position is dangerous and you should confess this area of your life to Jesus Christ and allow Him to rid you from this. Even this young woman who gave a testimony of how she walked away from God and was like the prodigal daughter and God pursued her in her backslidden state is the Agape love of God Almighty. I to walked away for sometime, but God never gave up on me. I came back praise God, because He didn’t want me to stay in that backslidden state. God is merciful to us all, and none of us are even worthy enough to deserve this gift of salvation that he offers freely to us. Some of the greatest apostasy that’s running rampant in the church today are self righteous people preaching a message that they themselves aren’t even able to live or abide by. They walk in arrogance and great pride like they have arrived. The fact is, none of us have truly arrived. We are always being changed and transformed to be more like Him. We must be teachable because the moment we stop, Pride takes the lead.
@@Emmanuel-ti6ym Do you still sin and thereby walk with Satan? If we say we have no sin the truth is not in us. So unless you stop ALL sin you will be thrown in the lake of fire 🔥. Unless you repent and accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior.
@@gregorylatta8159 Heb 10:26 Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is NO LONGER any sacrifice that will cover these sins. The blood of Jesus will cover unintentional sins as well as intentional sins that are confessed. 1 Peter 2:16 For you are free, yet you are God’s slaves, so don’t use your FREEDOM as an excuse to do evil. Luke 9:62 But Jesus told him, “Anyone who puts a hand to the plow and then LOOKS BACK is not fit for the Kingdom of God. Lot and his family were saved, Lot's wife looked back, she forfeited her salvation. The Purpose of this Doctrine is to Remove the FEAR of God from among the saints. Luke 1:50 He shows mercy from generation to generation to all who fear him. Fear is much more than just reverence or respect but trembling fear. Matt 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather FEAR HIM (BE AFRAID) who can destroy both soul and body in hell. Phil 2:12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed-not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence-continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Remember this doctrine is intended to keep the Saints on Easy Street, Luke Warm and without FEAR of the Most High. Matt 7:14 Because narrow is the gate and DIFFICULT IS THE WAY which leads to life, and there are FEW WHO FIND IT. Peace and Love, brother.
James 2:24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they DO and NOT BY FAITH ALONE. th-cam.com/video/vJo1OZcLtlA/w-d-xo.html Best bible passages to refute once saved always saved.
@@patriciaulbricht3643 That’s a lie from hell... “And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.” Romans 11:6 KJV
@@miketaylor9455 this verse is about the Initial Grace when you are First saved through baptism (which is very clearly stated in the bible, baptism is no work) that you are can not deserve. That is right. But there are many warning verses which respond to the saved christians to keep their ways holy. They could have fallen from Grace when they commit Grave sin. Confession to a priest where ordained by Jesus for the restoration of Grace. Amen
Aren't you tired of throwing verses back and forth like a proverbial food fight? Each team embracing their own set of what they say the verses mean? What does the true gospel entail? Is it a once and for all declaration, or a race to be run with all of our heart, soul and strength? The false gospel being preached today is rooted in three fundamental errors: 1) Justification is a one time irrevocable declaration, guaranteeing salvation; 2) Grace is the free gift of salvation where there can be no expectations attached. 3) And salvation is apart from any and all works. These are the errors of Martin Luther which have been adopted by virtually every evangelical church today. This series explains the theological roots of this error and presents the Biblical gospel. If you are so inclined, here it is: th-cam.com/play/PLncffI965_jjUgPwFQEx4xMMx2lfLaRza.html
@@monroegivens6914 the first three letters of assume are? No I'm not a catholic, nor is this man, he is speaking truth from the Christian Bible. Confess sins, repent, and accept forgiveness, from Jesus Christ, not Mary! We have to keep confessing, and repenting, but because we can never quit sinning, Jesus gains us forgiveness, by his blood, if we believe and follow him.
I came to the LORD at a young age. I still had a rebellious falling away in my late teens and twenties. Looking back, God's grace was with me every step of the way. He didn't like the sin in my life, but He never gave up on me. I still sin even now, but God's presence is with me every day. He will never leave us and He will never forsake us.
“I still sin even now” ... it depends on what sin you’re referring to. There are sins that lead to death. If you’re indulging in some form of lust, porn, hatred, stealing, or otherwise carrying God’s name while breaking his commandments, his promise is that you won’t be found guiltless. You must repent of (permanently turn away from, stop doing) those things. Hopefully you just mean you’re grumpy before your first cup of coffee in the morning or something, but if you’re breaking God’s commandments you need to stop right now.
@@jessepotter365 there’s a vast difference in being without sin, or even never ever sinning once in our entire lives, verses not being perfect but also not continuing on in sin that is in direct contrast to God’s commandments. Which is it for you?
@@jessepotter365 you’re not suggesting a Christian is allowed to break God’s 10 commandments and still call themselves by His name ... are you? Third commandment says if we carry God’s game in vain we will NOT be found guiltless! To be found guiltless, we must obey God’s commandments and hold fast to our testimony about Christ, that his blood atoned for our past sins.
Continue reading the verse. Later in it he tells the accursed "I NEVER knew you". He NEVER knew them. They didn't lose their salvation. They were never saved to begin with.
@@KeeperOfThe10 the only condition that salvation is based on is whether or not someone truly believes. the point of that verse is that there will be people that claim to believe in Jesus but don’t in their hearts. not that ppl have to do good works
Romans 10: 9, and 10: "When you CONFESS with your mouth, and BELIEVE in your HEART..." You are considered a PART of God's Kingdom--LEGALLY! BUT, we must "Continue" in His word...John 8:31. But EXPERIENTALLY, we STILL must "grow," and "Mature," in the "Spirit." Eph. 4:13. Even Jesus--according to scripture--had to "wax strong (grow) in Spirit." So, WHEN are we "Saved," you ask? The very micro-second we say, and BELIEVE that prayer. From THERE, like scripture SAYS--we must..."CONTINUE." God bless you.
@@raygabrelcik2578 once saved always saved. after a 30 second saving decision, you now have a license to sin to your heart's content cuz hey, you're already saved forever right? riiiiight
Whether you lose your salvation or not, I think it’s wise to live everyday as if your holding onto salvation for dear life! And God knows that I fail everyday, but he also knows I’m trying. God bless everyone!
Michael M. Are you trusting in yourself or in Christ. We’re not our own savior. Christ is. We’re going to sin no matter how hard we try not to but Christ is our advocate
I said "as if you're holding on to salvation for dear life." That's called having the fear of the Lord, which is wise. I didn't say I myself could hold on to Salvation. (As if)
@@TheGreatEscapeTravels i hear you, but i don't think we're supposed to "fear" the Lord as fear is the opposite of faith, and our faith in Christ is what saves us. When the bible says the "fear" of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom it is referring to reverence of the Lord, and when you meditate on that concept it makes more sense, as we are in awe of His creation and His ways, and that kind of fear (reverence) actually brings us closer to God and gaining understanding, where as scared fear is more of a forced obedience, in which God doesn't want; He wants us to want to obey, and to walk in faith. Hope that helps.
James 2:24 : You see that a person is considered righteous by what they DO and NOT BY FAITH ALONE. th-cam.com/video/vJo1OZcLtlA/w-d-xo.html Best bible passages to refute once saved always saved.
@@patriciaulbricht3643 , Salvation is by God's grace and mercy through Faith. EPHESIANS 2.4-10. So because you have true faith you will produce good works ( fruits) but those good works don't save you, ONLY WHAT JESUS CHRIST DID ON THE CROSS SAVES YOU. ( His grace and mercy). Fake and false faith doesn't produce good works, thus you haven't truly repented and believed in Jesus Christ and His Gospel of salvation. Don't misinterpret JAMES 2 with the Whole of Scripture. James 2 and EPHESIANS 2.4-10 go hand in hand, Scripture interpreting Scripture. Peace.
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@@michellecheriekjv4115 process of elimination: which of these 2 is from false teachers : 1. FAITH + WORKS = CONDITIONAL SECURITY (SALVATION CAN BE LOST) 2. FAITH ALONE + NO NEED GOOD WORKS = ETERNAL SECURITY (ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED) NOW in heaven, what is Jesus' state of being ... 1. flesh and bones, not flesh and blood 2. flesh and blood 3. not flesh and bones, a spirit
““Write this letter to the angel of the church in Ephesus. This is the message from the one who holds the seven stars in his right hand, the one who walks among the seven gold lampstands: “I know all the things you do. I have seen your hard work and your patient endurance. I know you don’t tolerate evil people. You have examined the claims of those who say they are apostles but are not. You have discovered they are liars. You have patiently suffered for me without quitting. “But I have this complaint against you. You don’t love me or each other as you did at first! Look how far you have fallen! Turn back to me and do the works you did at first. If you don’t repent, I will come and remove your lampstand from its place among the churches. But this is in your favor: You hate the evil deeds of the Nicolaitans, just as I do. “Anyone with ears to hear must listen to the Spirit and understand what he is saying to the churches. To everyone who is victorious I will give fruit from the tree of life in the paradise of God.” Revelation 2:1-7 NLT www.bible.com/116/rev.2.1-7.nlt
@@Jesusbride515 OSAS IS VERY EVIL DOCTORINE. NEVER I COULD IMAGINE THAT SATAN WILL USE THAT FALSE TEACHING BECAUSE ONLY A FOOL SAY OSAS WITHOUT TAKING ACCOUNT OTHER SIDE LOSING SALVATION
Such an important topic, thank you brother Parr. I gave my life to the Lord at age 15 at a David Wilkerson crusade back in 1971. Since then, I have had times when I allowed myself to be distracted by the things of the world, gone away from the truths of the Word. Behaved in ways I am truly ashamed of. But He has never taken His hand off me, and His grace has allowed me to eventually see that I am His and want nothing more than Him in my life. I am 67 now, and am so thankful He has never stopped loving me. I am His and He is mine. Forever. 🙏
Bro David Wilkerson was against once saved always saved. Jesus bluntly said he'll remove anyone's name from the book of life in Revelation 22:18-19 and we know from the Daniel 12:1, Philippians 4:3 that only people with salvation names are found in the book of life so if they were removed from it that means we can indefinitely lose our salvation. Not to mention verses like in the end times they'll DEPART from the faith which you can only depart if you were once walking in true faith. As well as go about your salvation with fear and trembling why would Jesus say that if it was impossible to lose. Anyways Jesus bluntly saying he'll removed a saved person name from the book of life is the end all of this topic.
@@vivaeuropayeah there was never a once saved. It's a doctrines of demons. Because people will feel like that they can do sinful things and they will allow demons into their life and they will be a slave to sin. Just like the scripture talking about not going back to your former self. Shipwreck a dog going back to its vomit. Stumble in Strong's concordance is loss of salvation in 1st Peter.
Thank God for his mercy and grace. You made it back from a backslidden position. Thank God you did not fall into one of the life taking traps of Satan. You would have been lost. He knows the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Praise the Lord. He will never let you go. Continue to surrender to him, he loves you dearly but he will never take away your free will which is also a demonstration of his love.
@@jeffouellette9946 I’d be careful calling it doctrine of demons and assuming OSAS just makes people feel like they’re ok to compromise in sin, the Holy Spirit will let you know and convict you. I am genuinely curious though if you can lose salvation what is the line you can’t cross? The parable of the prodigal son is a great parable that shows that even if we turn away for a time he is always there to welcome us back into fellowship with him with open arms. It’s not like if you start falling back into your old sinful habits and attitudes for a time, that Gods grace and mercy doesn’t still cover you. He will chastise and discipline his children when they’re in disobedience but that’s evidence that we are truly his children, I think that’s what happens when “a dog goes back to its vomit” you get chastised but you don’t lose salvation if you genuinely have saving faith in Jesus Christ. His blood paid for past present and future sins in the eternal sense but he does not excuse us from the consequence of sin in this life when we slip up (which we will). I just don’t think it lines up with scripture that you can lose salvation even with the common anti OSAS verses people try to use like Hebrews 6:6. We need to rightly divide the word of truth and interpret the more difficult passages in context carefully and in light of the other plain truths about salvation that are in the Bible, after all the Bible has no contradictions but with the common interpretation of Hebrews 6:6 it would appear to contradict the prodigal son parable. I’m open to admitting if I am wrong and want to seek the genuine truth of God but I do truly believe OSAS after praying for the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth on this contentious topic and I feel like he has led me towards OSAS every time I go to prayer about it. God bless my brother in Christ I know this was an old comment but I’d love to see your response if you do see this! 🙏
Please read... Colo 1:21-23 Rev 3:5 1 Tim 4:1 1 Tim 6:10 Once saved, always saved… “IF” you stay saved! (Remember): 1) Salvation is a free gift… (Meaning YOU can receive it or YOU can reject it) 2) God doesn’t make you stay with him if you don’t want to. He gave us the choice. 3) “FALL AWAY from the faith”… “to him that OVERCOME”...”ERRED from the faith”... You can only fall away “FROM”...err “FROM” it if you were “IN” it (the Faith) initially. 4) The epistles were written to the CHURCH...Christians.
I agree 100% The brother Parr did a good job on this video for the most part presenting his view point but I think it was a huge miss that he did not discuss scriptures like these that so clearly challenge the Once Saved Always Saved theology. I would also include Hebrews 6:4-6
You can lose blessings and rewards by living a back-slidden life and come under God's discipline and conviction of sin but you won't lose your salvation. I should know I got saved in 1972 and have had many ups and downs but I look for the Lord's appearing everyday.
Good brother, "Phillip." Living a "back-slidden" life is very dangerous, you give "demons" open access into every area of your life. Why, if one cannot "fall-away" do we see those words in scripture? My friend, read CLOSELY the following verses, and then--ask the LORD for understanding--not MINE--but HIS. Gal.3:1-5; Gal.5:7; Gal.4:8,9; Luke 8:13b; Matt.26:31b; Mark 4:15; Luke 14:34; 2 Thess.3:6-15; 1Tim.1: 3-11; 1Tim.4:1; 1Tim.5:15; Also, chapter 6:10b. Check out Luke 9:62. "Putting your HAND to the plow refers to the "WORK" we do as believers! 2 Pet.2"20-22 is extremely clear in context. Also, 2 Pet.2:15. The following is a clear-cut, sober warning: Heb.2:1-3. And of course, Heb.6: 4-6, which is taken OUT if its obvious context by some Christians. And YES--Heb.7:27 says that "Christ died ONCE for ALL..." But that is NOT implying one cannot "fall." There are quite a few MORE, good brother, but tell me, why is there actually more WARNINGS in scripture than "pats on the back?" God TELLS us, "Be SOBER-MINED and...WATCH." Watch WHAT? It's the same thing as "take heed...stand...lest you FALL." Some would say it makes it sound as if God is impersonal--I beg to differ! He LOVES us enough to WARN us what can happen if we allow "laodicia" to get the better--or should I say--WORST of us. Pray for wisdom, my friend, for she is greater than "fine jewels." God bless you.
@Edward Russell What you have written is not true about hell burst open. I didn't mention I have been doing the work of an evangelist for over 45 yrs. either planting seeds or leading people to Jesus. Plus you need to read Romans Ch. 7:15-25 and read about the Apostle Paul's struggles. Also my spiritual nature has never sinned but my flesh does everyday 1 John 1:10. I am taking only my spiritual to Heaven w/ me. P.S. All true believers have this dual nature of 100% Holy Spirit and 100% Flesh; the flesh sinful nature will die at our redemption thru death or rapture.
I use to do meth and I was addicted to alcohol and I almost died in my sins, I seen different kinds demons with my own eyes scared me to death and I knew in my spirit I was heading for hell for sure I cried out to God like Jonah and he had Mercy on me, I wouldn't want to test this once saved always saved thing to the end.... If I had not cried out to the Lord im convinced I would be in a place to horrible to imagine.. Whoever digs a pit will fall into it Proverbs 25:27
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@@labae8728 Your anti-Catholic sentiments are quite wrong and you need to get your facts right. If you really believe in praying to Jesus for yourself (in the way you seem to be trying to articulate, i.e. excluding intercessors), then logically you would have to condemn "Christians" for asking their fellow "Christians" to pray for them, in order to be consistent. Catholics do pray to Jesus directly, by the way. You need to stop all the anti-Catholic garbage and make consulting this information your number one priority. Your version of Christianity is a counterfeit, and is unhistorical and unbiblical. The Catholic Church is the original Church and you need to belong to it for eternal salvation. Before you dismiss this information by saying you only stick with the Bible, you should know that the very term "Bible" as applied to the books of the Old and New Testaments, comes from St. John Chrysostom, who was a fourth century Catholic bishop. This fact was acknowledged by Protestant scholar, F.F. Bruce. You can see more about this in the video, The First Use of The Bible: th-cam.com/video/ly137br9ctY/w-d-xo.html Also, the Catholic Church decided what books were to be in the Bible, so you don't even have a Bible without the Catholic Church. The Bible did not fall out of the sky intact. It was put together by the Catholic Church, which is the Church Jesus established (Matthew 16:18-19). You can't be a follower of Jesus unless you accept all of His teaching and hear His Church. That only happens in the traditional Catholic faith. Additionally, if you're one to label the Catholic use of statues as idolatrous, then your problem would be with God and the Bible, because God specifically commands the making of religious statues. The Bible does not condemn the use of true religious statues and images. See Exodus 25:17-19 below (and keep in mind that cherubim are angels): And thou shalt make a mercy seat pure gold: two cubits and a half the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof. And thou shalt make two cherubims gold, beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat. And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof. Other Bible references which show God's command to make statues for true religious purposes are: Exodus 26:1, 1 Kings 6, 1 Kings 7:25-36 and Numbers 21:8. For more information about what the Bible teaches regarding the use of true religious statues and praying to Saints (not worshipping Saints), please see this audio with Bible references for one's learning: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/bible-praying-to-saints/#.Xy2Eay2ZPs0 God wants you to become a traditional Catholic. I don't mean to join what purports to be the Catholic Church, which is currently headed by the evil man Antipope Francis. That's the Vatican II Counterfeit Catholic Church. Here is a file that covers the biblical proof for Catholicism: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/bible/ Vatican II "Catholic" Church Exposed: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/vatican-ii-exposed/?WPhp&Theme2020#.XybjKy2ZPs0 (addresses the sex scandals, etc) How to convert to the real Catholic Church: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/catholic-baptism-steps-to-convert/?WPhp&Theme2020#.XzNigy2z3s0 About Section of the website: www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/about-website/?WPcc&Theme2020#.Xybkwi2ZPs0 Life is short and Hell is forever. You will have no excuse at your judgment because you have been given the opportunity to embrace true Christianity by way of you having access to all the resources listed here. Take advantage of this soul-saving information and cease engaging in anti-Catholic speech and acts, because you will be eternally condemned to burn in the lake of fire, for having attacked God's one true faith, outside of which there is no salvation. Convert quickly because we're in the last days and of course, people can die at any time.
I got saved when I was 11. To avoid writing out my whole testimony, I will simply say that I stayed from God in my early 20s, and for all intents and purposes, lost my faith. It was to the point where I was angry with God, and tried MULTIPLE times to complete leave the faith. But GOD, through what I can only believe is the power of the Holy Spirit kept bringing me back. Kept pricking my heart and wouldn't let me go ”I am sure of this, that he who started a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.“ Philippians 1:6 CSB To God be the glory!
Yes, that is true, and don't let anyone deceive you otherwise. There are many scriptures that show God's power in saving and "keeping" those whom He saves. Psalm 37:28, "For the Lord loves judgment, and forsakes not His saints; they are preserved forever..." He Himself "preserves" them. Psalm 65:4, "Blessed is the individual whom YOU CHOOSE, and CAUSE TO APPROACH YOU, that he may dwell in Your courts (implying forever)..." If it was all up to us to keep our salvation, then we would be our own saviors, and would have no need of the Holy Spirit. He "seals" us by His Spirit "UNTO the day of salvation," not until we decide to walk away. How could He call any of us His "elect" if we "could" forsake Him? Notice what Jesus said about His elect in Matt. 24:24, "For there shall arise false Christs (false anointed ones -- the charlatans always claim to operate in the "anointing"), and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders (slaying in the spirit? laughing uncontrollably? false gifts of the Spirit? fake casting out demons? etc.); insomuch that, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, they shall deceive the VERY ELECT." This is a good example that Jesus will keep His elect from being deceived to the point of apostasy. Is it merely "our" will involved? John Baptist was filled with the Spirit while a fetus in his mother's womb. He didn't ask God first, nor did God ask him. His mission to pave the way for YHWH Messiah was prophesied by Isaiah about 700 years before his birth. John could no more apostatize from God and not complete his mission than the moon could decide to leave its orbit around the earth. Again, Isaiah prophesied of a coming king of the Medo-Persians named Cyrus, who he said would issue the decree to rebuild Jerusalem and the Temple, whom God called His "son" (He wasn't the Son of God, of course, but obedient to Him as a son in what God had raised him up to do for Him). But he wrote this prophecy over 200 years before his birth. Cyrus was made by God for this purpose, just like He raised up the evil Pharaoh to show His wonders in Egypt. But does God's will for us mean that we have no choice? Nope. Both wills are involved, which is a conundrum that no man can fully parse. All the warnings of scripture against sin, lethargy, apostasy, etc., only hit bone with God's elect. Those whom Jesus described as seed sown by the wayside, or on rocky ground, or among thorns, or tares, will not fully heed the warnings and repent. Lastly, as you read Jesus' final prayer for His 11 apostles in John 17, you will find that He said that He "kept" them. Compare those verses with John 6:39, the wording is identical. He "keeps" ALL that the Father has given Him, and will lose "NONE" (KJV says "nothing", but the Greek word is "me" [pronounced "may"], which means that all implications are ruled out, in other words, it is "impossible" for Jesus to lose even one of those the Father had already given Him before the foundation of the world, just as it was impossible for Him to have lost the 11 apostles, or Paul, or John Baptist, or Moses, or Elijah, or David. The only reason He lost Judas, whom He described early on as a "devil", was because his betrayal was prophesied in the scriptures hundreds of years before he was born. Jesus said of his betrayal, "that the scripture might be fulfilled." Well, John 6:39 is also a scripture that must be fulfilled -- He will lose NONE. Rejoice in His salvation!
I'm sitting here..reading all of the comments. Some I've even made myself. And I'm thinking, I'm not judging....just pondering. Malachi 3:16 "Then those who feared the LORD talked with each other, and the LORD listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared the LORD and honored his name.".................The Lord is listening to all of us right now. We should be glorifying Him and edifying each other. As far a OSAS....please do not neglect such a beautiful gift He died to give us. We do have an enemy who is out to steal our gift. He is the master deceiver. 1 Corinthians 10:12 " Therefore let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he fall." Stay in the Word..keep close to the Lord and do everything He tells you to do. Time is coming to a close.
Wonderful words 🎚🙌🏻. Abide in the vine Christ Jesus. I know just how weak and powerless I am. And my strength is Only in the Lord. I am a sheep But Mighty is the LORD my Shepherd 🎚🙌🏻🙏
I have been in the faith for over 10 years. My experience has been: the more I learn, the more questions I have. All in all, I hope God will humor me cause we need to talk. Lol
James 2:24 You see that a Person is considered righteous by what they DO and NOT BY FAITH ALONE. th-cam.com/video/vJo1OZcLtlA/w-d-xo.html Best bible passage to refute once saved always saved. This channel will solve your questions.
@@patriciaulbricht3643 Don't just read scripture study it and learn what it says about salvation. Watch both these videos and visit the main channel for the rest of the bible. th-cam.com/video/WTr76C2sxIM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/3GnK0xndBkA/w-d-xo.html
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Now I could be wrong but to me the people that were able to cast out devils and stuff like that had to be close to God, living for God , and most likely saved. I don't believe that God is going to give that kind of power to just anybody.
Yes. Those are the ones who were never saved in the first place. The best example of such a person is Judas. Who was given the power to perform miracles. But he was never saved. Not to mention John writes that those who turn from the faith, never had it to begin with. If they were one of us, they'd stay with us, but since they aren't one of us, turned away. Not word for word but that's basically what he wrote. This is irrefutable proof that you can't lose salvation. If you "lose it", that means you never had it.
@@xepiloguex You just contradicted in that statement. It all means God is sovereign to give power to whomever He sees fit and that is amazing. Some shall ask and be given. And somewhere there is a story of disciples of some sort (70 something) who where sent somewhere to cast demons out and when they came back feeling all pumped up and pampered by the HS, the Lord said chill out buddies don't let this stuff get to your head. We have to remember we are in a longeated Spiritual warfare as opposed to being saved by daily battles as such. On another thing the fact you are uncertain is good but try not to go by your beliefs, this is the kind of thing you pray for for deeper understanding and He shall reveal. Hesitate not, to ask about anything. Because our self belief will lead to denying the Power of God and live in the faulty essence of intellectualism.
If u read your Bible, it literally said that “he who is in the world, is an enemy of God” so just bc you’ve accepted Christ into ur life doesn’t mean it’s ok to go ahead and go back to ur sinful ways.
Stherly M . Hebrews 4:13 And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account. 2 Corinthians 5:10 For WE must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether GOOD or EVIL. And all of us go back to our sinful ways because we’re not sinless😂
“Therefore, dear brothers and sisters, you have no obligation to do what your sinful nature urges you to do. For if you live by its dictates, you will die. But if through the power of the Spirit you put to death the deeds of your sinful nature, you will live.” Romans 8:12-13 If you are a true believer in Jesus Christ you would try to keep his commandments and don’t keep sinning.
Stherly M . Notice in that verse Paul says through the power of your spirit. Proving it’s at war. We’re in the flesh. Our spirit is inside us. Our soul goes to heaven not body We can’t put sinful desires away if we’re still in our sinful state. That’s why Jesus died for us to redeem us. All sin is paid for at the cross. Holy living is great but not for salvation. Jesus gave us salvation that’s why it’s a gift of God. I hope this helps.
Stherly M . Absolutely. We can try. If I can go one day without sinning, that would be by God’s power😂. Even the slightest sins are sins. Christ saved us at the cross. I do believe in obedience but obedience is for rewards, not salvation I see what you’re saying desiring to obey but our flesh is dead to submission
@Andrew West No that statement is not in the bible, I am talking about the false doctrine that teaches that once a person is born again/saved, they can never lose their salvation, no matter what. That is the false doctrine of OSAS.
Wow Allen. This is awesome. I love how you ended the video, we must focus more on our purpose here than arguing about different beliefs. You couldn't have said it any better. God bless you brother.
@@thebeatagp most people only look at the extremes (getting saved every day, or never losing your salvation) ! the truth is you can never lose it, but you can give it away by openly denying the Lord Jesus Christ, Hebrews 6 4-6 clearly indicates this, also Matthew 4:37 ! But the mark of Christian maturity, where you can not be restored is a high bar, also in Hebrews 6 4-6 !
Sir thank you. You have given me comfort. My son 37 years old was killed 3 weeks ago. He was saved thru faith when he was a teenager. This has been un-bearable. Thank you so much!
I so sorry for your loss. Lord please comfort Ava and her family during this time. Lift them up and shine your warm light upon them. There is great comfort in the fact that your son knew our great Lord and that you will be with him again one day 💛🙏
No one is judged until Jesus returns. The dead are asleep according to the Bible. God doesn't judge those who never knew his name. I can't remember what verse this was. Sorry for your loss. Please stop listening to this false teacher. Try School for Prophets with Atila, Bible flock box, and Justin Pestlin. They break the down the Bible word for word. School for prophets requested a debate with Allen Parr and he refused. Why? Because he knows he'll be shut down! He's another feel good teacher. The key is to be obedient to God no matter what happens in your life. Trials help us to get closer to God. Keep the faith...
@@annaswanson176 you cannot say Allen is a false teacher..... you may disagree with some of his understanding, but saying he's a false teacher is an absolute lie..... and lying is a sin..... you shouldn't be spreading lies about a brother in Christ
Just coming across this video. You said in the beginning that you don’t want nobody to say what they believe but in the 3rd scripture you yourself said “this is why I believe you can’t lose your salvation “. Question though, why does Paul always say that you must endure till the end to be saved? God gives you free will. He won’t make you stay somewhere you don’t want to be. You have to pay attention to words. There are a lot of “ifs” when it comes to your salvation in scripture.
Endure means we will go through tribulations and be prosecuted as Christians, we must endure to the end. Doesn’t mean we must be sinless until the end, God says we are liars if we claim to be sinless, everyone sins.
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:26-31 NKJV
Hebrews 6:4-6 King James Version 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. The Sin (For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins) that Hebrews is referring to is rejecting the Gospel of Salvation that is the only Sin that can not be forgiven. For rejecting Christ is the unforgivable Sin. So many times people use Hebrews wrongly to try to place people back under the law. When you hear the Gospel and accept its truth you are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, and are saved. Therefore you can not fall away. this verse obliterates the "You can lose you salvation argument", because first it says "IMPOSSABLE", second it says if you reject that Gospel you can not earn your way thus reiterating all the scripture that confirms security. Every time you go back to the Law you are in fact crucifying' Christ all over again ignoring John 19:28-30 King James Version 30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. IT IS FINISHED, not its finished but, or its only slightly finished. in Romans 6:9-10, KJV "Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin ONCE: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God." Gospel Period
@@josephmiller1224 No. actually this verse is addressing the hebrews that came to believe that Yeshua was their messiah and joined the Christians and followed for awhile, but turned away and went back to Judaism and left grace and lived back under the law, and trampled the son of Gods sacrifice on the cross as a common thing and believed the animal sacrifices in the temple was more value that Yeshua's blood on the cross!
This is such an encouraging message I’ve been a Christian for almost 10 years and am sometimes disappointed with the areas of my life that aren’t in-line with God, but then I remind myself at least I’m not where I was before, and that highlights all the things the lord has help me overcome or at least improve on.
Christ be with you its false Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. *For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die:* but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. (Rom 8:12-13) St Paul is speaking to people who are no longer debtors telling them it the return to sin they will die God bless you
Michael, you’re absolutely right. Our spirit is righteous with God, but we still have these corrupt physical bodies, and will fall short from time to time. Some sins are more easily put behind us than others. Physically, we don’t just “step over a log” into perfection. 👍
@@gregorylatta8159 Christ be with you It’s a pretty dumb response Everyone’s flesh dies, there would be no point in these words. You are trying to deny what St Paul is teaching. Talk about twisting his word to your own destruction. (2 Peter 3:15-16) Come to Christ
There are few saved because many refuse to BELIEVE in Jesus the Christ for Eternal Life. The way that leads to life is narrow (Matt. 7:13-14). Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but by Him (John 14:6). Self-righteous people are on the wrong path. They are on the broad way that leads to destruction (Matt. 7:13). Jesus came to save those who know that they are sick and lost and in absolute need of His deliverance (Matt. 9:12-13; Mark 2:17; Luke 5:31-32; 18:9-14). Of course, that is all of us, all of mankind. However, some people are unwilling to own up to the truth. The cross of Christ is a stumbling block to those who think that they are good enough to deserve kingdom entrance. Those who throughout the course of their lives reject the free gift of salvation and refuse to trust in Christ alone will find out that in reality they are sinners, those who “practice lawlessness” (Matt. 7:23). Only then it will be too late. What would you say if you appeared before God and He said, “Why should I let you into My kingdom?” Matthew 7:22 is the wrong answer. The right answer is, “Lord, I am an unworthy sinner who has placed his complete trust upon what Jesus did for me upon the cross, and He promised that whoever believes in Him has eternal life” (Luke 18:13-14; John 3:16; Rom. 4:5; Eph. 2:8-9; Titus 3:5).May we call people to do the will of God so that they can obtain entrance into the kingdom of God. Those who place their trust wholly in Jesus Christ have done the will of the Father and have already passed from death to life (John 5:24) and will not come into judgment regarding their eternal destiny (John 3:18). Shalom
Ron Aller that’s absolutely right I was once spiritually blinded by religion walking in the flesh but now I walk in the spirit and I owe it all to God saved by grace through faith
I think as long as we dont PRACTICE SIN , and if we try and do our best to serve him , and pray and have a relationship with God , asking forgiveness daily , then we are saved
This tells me that you understood what the scriptures have always taught. It seems to me that if a person reads the scriptures BEFORE hearing about the doctrine of Once Saved Always Saved, then this ridiculous idea never enters into their mind. That should tell us something.
@Melony Kilby Wrong. That's dangerously close to salvation by works, which we know from Ephesians 2:8-9 is not Scriptural. Salvation is by faith and faith alone. If believers could lose their salvation simply by sinning again, then we would constantly be losing our salvation and needing to regain it. Faith in Christ is the only way to reach salvation, and conversely renouncing that faith is the only way a believer can lose his/her salvation.
HotWax93 you cannot lose your salvation by simply sinning again. You can lose your salvation by willfully sinning. This is the real truth on the once saved always saved doctrine. th-cam.com/video/2W28zs_0ZX0/w-d-xo.html
9/17/2017 God changed my heart forever and delivered me in one night. That night He delivered me from a bad cocaine addiction, pornography, a foul tongue, alcohol addiction and even cigarettes. At night I feel and hear demonic forces in my home and over my body. I anoint my head with oil and drop to my knees and purge myself from any "willing" or "hidden" faults. Then I go to war with the Kingdom of Darkness. If you "lost" your salvation then you was a just another one of the many "false" convert. True converts by the mercy and grace of God crawled out of the snares of death, disease, destruction, desolation and damnation and once given a taste of salvation, we would rather die than to give it up and turn back to the old man like a pig goes to his slop. 2 Cor. 5:17 God Bless, Brother Zachariah Isaiah
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. 2 Peter 2:20-22 KJV bible.com/bible/1/2pe.2.20-22.KJV
As a pastor who once was miles from God and knowing I was not covered by His mighty grace any longer, I believe with such an important doctrine where people’s eternal security rests, the topic needs much study to support such a stand. I appreciate your efforts here to help other believers. For the record, I don’t believe that God throws us out but rather humankind has free will. So if someone decides to reject Christianity years later and live a satanic life or just godless existence, then why would this person deserve to live with Jesus in heaven when he clearly didn’t want to live with Him here?! I think in order to decide upon and to preach a doctrine, you need firstly not to find scriptures that support your view especially if the are plenty of scriptures saying the opposite. I would like to hear you overcome the many parables, warnings and teachings all through the Bible before we disregard and ignore clear teachings in the word. Especially when we are warned not to preach a foreign gospel or add to the word. Here are just a few; 1. 10 virgins, 5 that don’t make it and yet all are called and waiting 2. Unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit where there is no forgiveness. Why would you need this if not saved. 3. Parable of talents, 1 slothful servant of God 4. Rebukes to seven churches, return or have your lamp stand put out 5. Matt 18 dealing with conflict in the church, last move to put the person outside under Satans control so that they maybe saved 6. Tasting of the heavenly gifts and partaken in the Holy Spirit but falling away there is no forgiveness of their sin 7. Rev 12 leave the out Court worshipers 8. Prodigal son, was he restored if he stayed in the pig pen of life? There’s plenty more. What are your thoughts?
Yes I agree with you, people need to speak IN CONTEXT the scriptures. Point is God keeps us as long as long as we want to be kept! Luke 2: 62- Noone who puts his hands to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God. Thats just one scripture going against what he said. People please study and know the Bible for yourselves. No hate and evil towards this brother but at the end of the day. We have to stay in line with the grace God has given unto us. Apply the principals of the Bible. When I backslid, if I would have died in my sin I would have gone to hell, its as simple as that. God's grace kept me alive to allow me to come back to Him. But many dont get that chance. Long story short. Know the Bible for yourselves people!
Please. You said at the end of your comment that there are plenty more where those came from. I'd be interested in seeing them. So far, none of these you have listed say anything about anyone losing salvation after being in Christ while being used in context. Of course if you separate them from context and study them as stand alone verses, then yes. I guess you can make the argument that it's possible to lose salvation if you twist the meaning to fit a certain view. But in context, none of these support losing salvation. Study scripture as a whole. Not as individual verses. Pick one from your list and let's discuss it with scriptural support.
@@djohnson3093 "But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die." Ezekiel 18:24 KJV Word of God! ✨ It's said clearly. It clearly says that the "righteous" (who are the ones that are justified) can lose everything that they had done if they turn away from their righteousness... All of their righteousness won't be even mentioned. A righteous can fall and lose salvation.
Christ be with you Jesus does that for us A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. (John 13:34-35) Act 16:30-31 is not what it means to be Christian It is mere the first step. then we must learn about his teaching And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway. (Acts 16:32-33) Anyone who tells you a Gospel that does not tell us we must abide in this doctrine of Christ is a partaker of Evil. Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John 9-11) (Please read the rest of 2 John to see this is the doctrine being talked of ) God bless you
@faith grace Christ be with you So you think Jesus is wrong. Romans 4 is referring to works of the law, circumcision, animal sacrifice, cleansing rituals, holy days and dietary requirements not Good works. It appears most Protestant so not know what faith is. Abraham's promise came through faith (Rom 4:13) but is was kept because he obeyed God ( Gen 26:4-5) If you read more than the proof text you would see that faith must establish the Law (Rom 3:31) I think you should look at what faith in Jesus Christ means to you. I would also look at the gospel you follow as it sound like it does not contain the doctrine of Christ, and that would make it evil ( 2 John 9-11) Please read more than just proof texts and find the true Gospel. God bless you
Being saved is to simply give your mind body and soul to God to do that you must know the truth about his word the correct revelation and he has to give it to us we can’t get it just by reading the Bible he has to reveal it to us
@@johnward2650 I agree. I just think we have been conditioned by modern church for us to stop at just that statement and our actions don’t necessarily follow. And based off of this video that clear distinction was not truly made.
I was saved several years ago. Easily the greatest moment of my life. I felt instantly transformed and different. The lord instilled in me something I never really had before, discernment. I still struggle with sin to this day. Mostly because I was a new Christian and was fairly ignorant of scripture or was fed a false gospel at times. But never once did I feel unsaved or condemned. But when I did commit a sin I felt something I never felt before which was guilt and remorse over what I had done. I look forward to the day I get to stand face to face with Jesus and rejoice in heaven with other believers.
Again, I agree with you 100%. I would add that if a person thought he or she was saved then rejects God later in their lives, then I would have to question their salvation in the first place. But I believe rejecting God and backsliding are two different things. We can’t make the judgement of a persons salvation because we can’t see into a persons heart, their salvation or lack of salvation is between them and God.
@@waynenorumu5485 It doesn’t matter if backsliding is in the Bible or not, it is the concept or idea. The Trinity isn’t in the Bible either but most all Christians believe in the concept/doctrine.
This was sooooo uplifting !!! I'm crying ! Thank you for doing these important videos! I love how you provide proof thru scripture ! I will never lose my salvation ! God Bless You sir!
His true followers will never lose their salvation, simply because He dwells in us and He will never leave us or forsake us! Nothing can separate us from the love of God! Only His sheep know His voice! Hallelujah! 🙌🏽🥰
Hate to burst your bubble, but he would forsake you if you forsake him. You can separate yourself from God, but cannot separate him from you. The scripture says so. However, you are right. "...True followers will never lose their salvation..." because in order to demonstrate that your faith is genuine, we have to do good works. As long as we do both, in accordance with his will, we will -always- be saved. God will always be with us. However, he may not SAVE us. Those are two distinctive issues. God is with the person shouting at the Cashier @ Walmart. However, he likely ALSO is with that cashier. The person shouting at the cashier isn't doing a good work. So, thus, her mistake if repeated without repentance, she is not doing good works continually. However, God is still with you. You just can't feel his presence/ the feeling of BEING saved. Still, Christ be with you!
@@rjsuvakjr Yes that’s exactly right Brother! Jesus came for my narcissistic sister, she followed Him, but not nearly long enough for Him to change her, she went right back into the world and then married a woman. She tries to say that Jesus brought her a wife. 🤮
@@stephaniedekinger2463 I understand the feeling but remember Christ's example of 'Judge lest you be Judged'. You judge your sister for her sin, then you must judge yourself on your own. Remember God has a plan for you and for your sister. She can rebel but she will always serve God's will in one form or another. So, by judging her, you judge God's judgement. You can separate yourself from that behavior and use it as an example of what not to do. However, you should not judge them or their relationship with God. The same goes for all non-believers. Instead of damning, or holding people in contempt, try to build a bridge. Otherwise, you are going to be separating yourself from god. A high horse is not a good work.
@@rjsuvakjr Jesus chose me on June 7, 2018. He has given me permission to judge righteously, He anointed me to call out her sin. My sister is a narcissist sociopath. Jesus told me to stay away from the narcissistic family and He also said if one of them dies, let the dead bury their dead and keep following me. She is at the top of my list when I pray for my enemies. She has tried several times to physically kill me, but Jesus had a plan for me.
@@stephaniedekinger2463 He gave you the ability to discuss it, but he didn't make you judge jury and executioner of her judgement. You say she tried to physically kill you, but you're mis-applying that verse. The verse means to serve God. You can leave that family behind and focus on God. That is your religious duty. However, nowhere does that verse say anyone is fit to judge anyone. So, back to my comment, the only person(s) fit to judge the sins of another being is the Father & the Son. Nobody else has that right. God chose you to speak his word, but not to judge others. Condemning others before their judgement only adds sin to your own list. The meaning I'm getting at is described in Matthew 7. You are not perfect, so you are to discuss sinful nature, and provide constructive feedback. However, you cannot condemn people before they are truly condemned. Repentance is a concept we only partially understand. Divine Salvation plays a role in it, and we have to understand we didn't set the rules for salvation. God did. You must forgive your sister and your family. Forgiveness doesn't mean you forget, but it means you need to let go of the anger and resentment. That pulls you away from God. Just reading your comments, I can feel that raw anger and rage. You have to let yourself heal, but you also cannot condemn them. At some point, they will haver to atone for their sins (either on this Earth or in the Nether).
I think part of the problem that leads to the controversy is seeing our salvation as something that is already complete rather than that we are "being saved". We can't lose something that is not complete and by the same token we can't fully have it until it is complete. In fact, salvation really has to do with being "made whole" rather than an idea of being "rescued from hell". He who endures to the end will be saved. Certainly by definition the "elect" are secure and the Lord knows those who are his.
“I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes[a] so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. 5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8 This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.
@Jesus is My Greatest Friend To be honest I’m just very confused. On TH-cam I’ve seen that many people have had rapture dreams and in those dreams they got left behind. Now it seems like many of them had to repent for certain things but it seemed like they were godly people who didn’t really realize the sins that were going on. But I just get confused because it’s like does that mean they were never saved in the first place?!??!?!?! Because if you get left behind weren’t you never saved???
@Jesus is My Greatest Friend Im just not ready and I know we’re running out of time. I’ve felt pretty much nothing. Yeah yeah ik we don’t go off of feelings but it’s just annoying because I’ve never felt Gods presence or the Holy Spirit. It’s been a couple days since I’ve seriously decided to have a better relationship with God so I’m going to give it some time. It would be great if you could pray for me and let me know any suggestions:)
““Son of man, tell your people: ‘The good things people did in the past will not save them if they become bad and begin to sin. In the same way the bad things people did in the past will not destroy them if they turn from their evil. So remember, the good things people did in the past will not save them if they begin to sin.’” Ezekiel 33:12 ERV
Jerty Markt this man Shirley knows nothing of predestination!! God chose his own church before the foundation of the earth to conform to the image of his son!
I don't believe quoting Ezekiel 33:13 in response to this is appropriate because the eternal security bro. Allen speaks of is through Jesus Christ... Jesus had not died for us yet
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Revelation 22:14-15 KJV bible.com/bible/1/rev.22.14-15.KJV
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1 John 3:23 KJV bible.com/bible/1/1jn.3.23.KJV
I once used to believe in "Eternal security" or the "once saved always saved" doctrine, but the more I studied the scriptures the more i realised this wasn't the case, I realised how difficult it was to continue holding on to that doctrine, I do believe that a Christian can lose his/her salvation through apostasy and I think that worldliness and continual sin can eventually cause a Christian to turn their back on God and that's what I believe Paul refers to when talking about the "falling away" in Hebrews 6:6 and what Peter talks about in 2 Peter 2:20-22, we have been clearly warned in scriptures about this matter.
Yes, I agree. You have the correct understanding. Salvation is something we must strive to hold on to daily by freewill cooperation with the grace of God won for us by the finished work of Jesus. Jesus' passion does not remove our freewill after we come to know Him like some teach. That's why Paul states 'work out your salvation in fear and trembling'. OSAS is a dangerous theology and lulls many into thinking the blood of Jesus will simply cover their sins. Some simply are taught to ignore the warning verses or to attribute them to others but not to themselves.
A good way to think about this is that when we are unsaved we are bobbing up and down, treading water in a big ocean. Jesus rescues us and takes us out of the ocean and puts us on a boat. We are safe there. He will never throw us in the ocean. And on this boat, no one else is able to throw us back in either. But you can choose to jump back in the ocean if you so desire. Make sense?
Love you brother, but you misquoted scripture. You said, “All that the Father has given me, I will not lose one” (7:50). That’s not what the Bible says and is very misleading. The Bible clearly says that it is the WILL OF GOD that He does not lose one. Big difference. It’s also the will if God that none should perish, but that all should come to repentance; but the will of God is not always accomplished. It pains me to see this doctrine promulgated as it is. There is a great apostasy coming (2 Th 2:3, 1 Tim 4:1, Mat 24:9-13) and we should be warning believers as the Bible does (Heb 3:12, for example). Instead, many are receiving false assurance because of teachings like this.
Hal Chaffee Thank you for using Scripture to back up what I believed. It is so important as teachers of Scripture that we rightly divide the word of truth. The Scriptures are the final authority on which we base our beliefs. But if our beliefs are based on a misinterpretation of the Scripture we’ll continue to teach it incorrectly. I knew there was a Scripture about the great falling away. And that falling away refers to the Saints. This supports the idea of being able to forfeit entering into the kingdom of God by our own choice.
@@granitarichardson5156 the falling away does NOT refer to those who are born again! It has to do with the rampant false teachings that will take place, but it doesn't mean believers lose salvation. What does HAVE eternal life mean?
@@jamesjeson556 I don't believe it is speaking of those who are born again because the next verse says that those who depart from the faith were liars, having their conscience seared, etc. 80% of Americans claim they are of the Christian faith, but that doesn't mean they are born again. We see many departing from the teachings of the faith and are believing lies, but they were never OF the faith. If one truly believes eternal life is by the grace of God through faith in that grace, they would never depart. The problem with those who believe they can lose their salvation is that they don't actually put their faith in Jesus Christ. They put it in their own ability. Those are ones who will depart from the faith because they never really believed the Gospel.
Thank you always.But in line with this video explain this passage: “ Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling “ Thank you for your wonderful work.
The verse you mentioned is Phillipians 2:12. Except most of the book of Proverbs, it usually helps to read before and after the verse that raises a question. Phillipians 2:13 reveals that God works in you. The beauty of the salvation that God has invested in you is constantly being discovered. As you pray, fellowship with other Christians, study the Bible and obey Jesus what he has put in you will be more plainly seen by you and those around you. Work out what God has worked in.
Notice how it doesn't say work AT or For our salvation because that's impossible since Jesus paid it all. Paul is expounding on Eph. 2:10 that we are created unto good works.
Praise God, thank you brother for the truth of your message. I was saved year 2000. Within that span of year til the start of lock down. My life is a like a wheel. Up and down, always stumbling down to the point that I intentionally stop praying and again embrace the worldly life. Many times I encounter nightmare and wrestle with the enemy trying to put me to a complete sleep. But each time I call on the Lord to save me. Then it become a habit just to call on God and repent whenever I'm in trouble. But this pandemic bring a great blessing to me. I was lock down... No work no pay. Instead of freaking out, I welcome it as a wake up call. That God has purposely than this thing because He loves me much. So I assess my spiritual state, humbled down and again seek God's fellowship. I start rereading my Bible and hope to finish it before I return to my place. This OSAS, message just confirm everything . What God has started in my life. He is going to finish it before the return of Christ Jesus. I also resume my intercessory prayers and be part of the many lights shining bright on my place and also to the world. Appreciate if you would Kindly include me in all your prayers...Thank you.
G'day mate Errol here, i am 70 years old and i gave my life to Jesus at the age of 40. In the past 30 yrs i have seen many come and go, some that looked to be following Jesus with all their heart, now they are back to their old life worse than before. God has given us a free will and I believe that we can turn our back on God deny him and walk away.
You are trusting your eyes and not the word of God, though Errol. God is clear "if they go out from us, they were never of us" - 1 John 2:19 They SEEMED like believers to you, but God knew their hearts, which is why they fell away. If anyone falls away, it's an insult to God to believe He lost them and wasn't strong enough to keep them. If you listen to this video again, the narrator does a great job of citing the Scriptures that point you directly to how we cannot fall away if we belong to God.
Amen. Free Will allows for Believer's Freedom...To Endure to the End or To Stray...God creates NO ROBOTS. God takes no Hostages!!! All Glory be to God for His Genuine, Unconditional Love to us-ward!! 😊
@@lynette4412 God creates no failures. Phil 1:6 And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ. If you endure - it's God's victory. If you fail - you were never His. He doesn't fail. Read the above verse carefully. 1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. Also - there is not one, not a single verse that ever speaks of the free sovereign will of man. It does not mean we are robots, it just means God is so above your understanding that He can determine something and even if you exercise your will to try and change His plan, He will still get done exactly what He intended.
Ok, Buddy, ( good channel, I respect what you are doing) I just started watching this video and had to comment at 1:42 already ( and I will continue to watch afterward). You preface your statement of "once saved always saved" by saying; " Once you become a GENUINE follower of Jesus Christ ". THAT is where the issue begins in my humble opinion. We need to all have the same definition of what is a "Genuine follower of Christ' . 2 John in verse 8 says " 8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.( end) Now, with that being said. Some people's experience in being saved involved nothing more than a guy asking someone " Are you saved?" and the person says " No". "Would you like to be"? " Yes". Then say this prayer and yahoo they are saved and they give it no thought ever again. To some, that is the experience that they have based their salvation on. That person may think that they are saved, but in reality, are they? Real salvation is when I fall to my knees and submit my will to the higher authority of God, telling him that I realize that on my own I have NO chance of salvation and that I accept the Blood of Christ to cover me and my sinful nature. Some people think that the prayer is like a magic spell or that God changes sin so it is not sinful anymore, FALSE. God changes the sinner and real faith is a faith that works and creates fruit. I am really studying this hard right now. We are surely saved by faith and the grace of the Lord but we do not still just wallow in our sins, we still wallow in sin because we have a sinful nature but we do not keep sinning ON PURPOSE and expect God to be happy with that can we? God made law and the penalty for breaking it was and IS death. So now when we become Christian we can break it with no consequence? Did Christ die so I could keep on sinning? This once saved always saved doctrine is a slippery slope. Every time I pray for clarity on these issues It seems God is telling me that the law is only dead for SALVATION. I will close with this my Friend and continue with the video, in Revelation when Jesus comes back, what does He find? It says He finds a one-world government, a one-world currency, an APOSTATE one world church and a remnant.. a remnant of His true believers that " Keep the commandments of God AND the faith of Jesus!
Amen,Amen,and Amen........ Thee first person to break it down so simply for the confused people in the back.... Amen! Yes Lord use him! Your studying shows... GOD Bless!
Brother Allen, I agree with most of your teaching. In fact, you are doing a GREAT work in these last days that you MUST continue with all due diligence. NO sin can sever us from Christ - He paid for it all on Calvary's cruel cross. Notwithstanding, God will NEVER override man's free will. If, like Judas, we believe in and follow Christ and later turn away, He will honor our decision to apostatize. It's not a matter of sin, rather free will and choice. Hebrews 6:4-8 makes that abundantly clear. The word for "fall away" in verse 6:6 is PARAPIPTO, meaning to knowingly turn away and reject/return the free gift of salvation that we once embraced. You can never LOSE your salvation - however you CAN premeditatedly walk away. Keep up your critical ministry! And God bless and guide you in all things.
Hi Allen, I will reply to this, as you asked - with a scripture. I think it speaks well enough for itself: "For it is impossible to BRING BACK TO REPENTANCE (Meaning there has been one previously), those who were once enlightened - those who have experienced the good things of heaven and shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the power of the age to come - and who THEN TURN AWAY from God. It is impossible to bring such people back to repentance; by rejecting the Son of God, they themselves are nailing him to the cross once again and holding him to public shame. When the ground soaks up the falling rain and bears a good crop for the farmer, it has God's blessing. But if a field bears thorns and thistles, it is useless. The farmer will soon condemn that field and burn it." Hebrews 6:4-8
Exactly. All the other scriptures I am seeing in the comments do not at all confirm that you can't turn away. These people are too eager for grace and not eager enough for the truth.
We are studying this now. The parable about the fig tree is another example. It must bear [righteous] fruit or it will be cut down. But people will believe what they want to believe.
@@believein1 In order to be born again you have to believe in the fact that Jesus finished the works upon the cross. Repent either means feel sorry or change of mind {like changing from trusting in my works for salvation to trusting in the finished work of Christ alone}, it doesn't mean stop sinning.
@@Meliasnusrey What exactly do you think a changing of mind means? If you continue sinning, clearly your mind has not changed. What you suggest is a doctrine of devils.
@@believein1 I believe, "changing of mind means" stop looking to yourself and your works for salvation and to trust in the finished work of Christ. What do you mean by, "If you continue sinning, clearly your mind has not changed."? What do you mean by "What you suggest is a doctrine of devils."? I'm suggesting in just trusting in Christ for salvation, what are you trusting?
Brother Allen, I appreciate and respect the work you do for the lord. I am a subscriber and I will continue to watch your videos. However, with that said I must respectfully disagree that once saved always saved. I agree works do not save us but the grace of God. We cannot earn our way to heaven. I also believe we can be forgiven multiple times for our sins and no sin is too great to be covered by Jesus atonement for our sins. Nevertheless, if we turn away from God and do not repent we chose not to serve him. Matthew 7:21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. This verse is not just for false prophets but anyone who is not doing God’s will. If a believer is unrepentant of the sins in 1 Corinthians 6:9, Galatians 5:21, and Revelation 21:8 they will not enter the kingdom of heaven. Continually committing the sins mentioned in those chapters without repenting would contradict God’s word. Saying I am sorry is different from repenting. Furthermore, in Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Many people want to have enough of Jesus to be saved but still have fun with the devil. I believe that it is risky because your heart could turn away from God and you won't repent anymore. Some peopleget old, sick, or injured and choose to repent. However, we could be killed instantly without a chance to repent. Even when we have been baptized we must choose who we will serve. We could fall away and even come into unbelief. God does not force us to choose. God wants all of us to return home to him. God will forgive us if we ask Him. However, individuals have to ask for forgiveness and try to serve to the best of our ability. Respectfully. Your brother in Christ The Minister Artist
Dear The Minister Artist I am not sure what point you are making. I assume that you agree with Christian theology that salvation comes by faith only, in the work of Jesus Christ, separate of you own efforts (works). Are you implying that salvation is maintained or retained (at least in part) by what we do (our works) ? If this is what you are trying to say, then this would not be a Scriptural understanding of the Christian doctrine of salvation. It appears that your understanding of soteriology may have some misconceptions. Do genuine Christians sin ? Yes. If a Christian sins will he lose his salvation ? No, not under the Gospel endorsed by Scripture, because Scripture clearly teaches salvation is by faith, not by works. If you say one loses his salvation because of his behavior then your salvation is based upon faith plus works, which is not the Christian basis of genuine salvation. The faith plus works gospel, is one of the "different gospels" mentioned in Gal. 1. Christians don't work and serve God, to become Christians (because all our good we do is not up to God's standards); we work and serve God because we are Christians. You said, "Many people want to have enough of Jesus to be saved but still have fun with the devil." This description does not fit the Biblical description of a Christian, who is a new creation in Christ where the old has passed away and he is now indwelled and sealed by the Holy Spirit. If you see someone like you described, I would assume they were not a genuine Christian. Your perception of regeneration and Spiritual grow appears to be weak. They may have enough of Jesus to be Christianized into institutional Christianity, but not enough belief in God's grace through Jesus, to be a geniune Christian. There is a very significant difference between the two. You mentioned, "We could fall away and even come into unbelief." I'm just curious; how would your statement be understood in the light of 1 John 2:19 ("They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.") Would you agree that people could verbally profess to be Christians, fellowship regularly with Christians and externally act and look like Christians, but not be genuine Christians; just very close Christian counterfeits. They are not genuine Christians and do not have the Holy Spirit indwelling them; they have never become a new creation in Christ, but are imitation Christians; and they may be convinced in their mind, they are Christians. When they leave (fall from grace/fall away), it appears that they have fallen away from Christianity and many would describe the situation as such. This scenario certainly explains a lot of the phenomena that we see. Wish I could sit and talk with you. Many thanks for your consideration. DZ
I agree that we are saved by faith and accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Sin cannot make anyone lose their salvation. Works strengthens our faith and we can show our faithfulness through works. Works itself cannot save. I am simply saying that if someone chose to deny Christ after being saved that person chose to reject Christ. Christ calls us but he does not force us to stay with Him. Anyone who repents and asks for forgiveness will receive His grace and mercy.
I got into a fb dog fight with some listeners concerning pre-election. I came very close to saying to God, "good bye". Believing that with the horrible sins I've committed in the past, I must not be one of them. Thank you Allen for you contributions to clarifying the Word in a simpler to understand manner.
Because allowing the devil to inculcate false teaching into your life, _poisons_ your faith, and wrecks your life, including your testimony? Because we want to be joyful, fruitful Christians, servants of Jesus, and not spiritual shipwrecks? Not every warning is about salvation, or implies loss of salvation. For one thing, what about what Jesus said about. "eternal...everlasting life"? Was what He said true, or was He just running a bait and switch operation, making promises with His fingers crossed behind His back, which He did not intend to honor? That's impossible, isn't it?
Being saved doesn't mean being perfect.... it means acknowledging your weakness in the flesh and repent at all times when you fail. But I agree with you it takes sacrifice and commitment to surrendering yourself to Jesus all day and not just "oh it's done".
@@TheLily97232 It's kind of hard to come to the right way to look at it, but when we are sincerely seeking the truth, He's going to be guiding us into all truth. Our changing to become conformed to His image isn't all finished as long as we're alive down here. But His work on the cross is done, and that is what gives us our standing as sons and daughters, that allows us to live in His grace, not afraid that we will fail to pass the judgment because of our failures, or because we aren't growing fast enough, and we fear that He might grow impatient with us. Because He bore our sin, our sin is imputed to Him, and His righteousness is imputed to us. That's even more important than our growth. But when we rest in it, were so grateful we want to do what pleases Him.
Loved your video. For some I suggest that it isn't that one can lose your salvation, but if you ever were saved in the first place. Matthew 7:21 and the parable of the sower comes to mind Matthew 13.
TheNthMouse No, man is not justified by faith alone: (James 2:24) “You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.” Saying that we must be justified by works is NOT saying that we are “saving ourselves”. It just means that in addition to being a gift, eternal life is ALSO A REWARD(Romans 2:6-7). That’s what you Once Saved Always Saved folks don’t realize-it is a reward/gift at the same time.
@@lightninlad James 2:24 James 2:24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.
James continues to make the case that those who truly trust in God naturally end up participating in good works. As James showed in prior verses, no one can be saved by good works. Works are not required for salvation-they are a "symptom" of saving faith. In verse 22, he used the Greek word eteleiōthē to explain good works as the "completion," or the natural end result, of saving faith. James is urgently making the case that all those who are saved through faith by God's grace will participate in good works.
It is in that spirit that James writes that a person is "justified" by works and not by faith alone. In verse 21, James used the concept of "justification," which some see as a contradiction to Paul's use of "justification" in passages such as Romans 4. Here, it is common for a reader to assume a contradiction with Romans 3:28: "For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law."
It's important to remember two things, however. First, James is not claiming works are required for salvation. His entire argument has been about what kind of faith actually saves. He is on the attack against the attitude that one can be saved by a faith that has no works. He has stated repeatedly that such a faith is dead, useless. He is not saying that faith is not the means through which we receive God's grace; he is saying that a so-called-"faith" which results in no actions is not a genuine faith. A "works-less" faith cannot justify anyone.
The other thing that is important to remember is this: James has been consistent in upholding faith as necessary for salvation. This includes his quote in verse 23 that Abraham was counted as righteous for believing God.
Context is the key to all Bible study, and especially for resolving apparent contradictions. In Paul's writings, it is clear he is describing "justification" in the sense of salvation: being declared righteous by God. James, according to this context, is referring to "justification" in the sense of proof for human beings. Faith saves, says James, but "saving faith" cannot be a mere intellectual opinion, which produces no resulting actions. God bless
Phillip C. Huh? The tribulation takes place at the END of the Church age. It isn’t it’s own age. This isn’t a three-“age” system. So yes, it’s for the Church Age.
Can a Christian lose Salvation? "If I can show your Catholic doctrines are false my belief in eternal security, sola fide/scriptura, Predestination, OSAS therefore win by default." The idea that a Christian can somehow achieve both salvation and “eternal security” instantaneously from just one mental commitment by simply declaring one’s faith and repentance to the Lord, has to be a statement of eternal optimism, rather than a claim to eternal security. It is the height of arrogance defying the 75 verses that how a committed Christian can lose their salvation. These "doctrines" were unknown in the Church for the first 1500 years, before Calvin and few scholars supported them. Look at all the great theologians of the Church like Origen, Augustine, Iraneous, Lucian, Aquinas and others who were familiar with such passages but NEVER made such a dangerous inference from any Scriptural passage. There are an abundance of warnings in Scripture however, of how salvation can be lost. If grace is ALL that’s needed and salvation cant be lost these warnings are utterly nonsensical. It is a common view among protestants who believe Salvation by faith alone but only a small minority who claim eternal security. Even Luther believed that a Christian can commit apostasy or grave sin and lose salvation! There are numerous examples of Christians who have renounced their faith and lost the grace of God. Some scholars however audaciously claim, that not even apostasy can cause loss of salvation. John 15:- For those faithful attached to the True Vine, they can clearly lose salvation if they fail to produce “good fruit. When Jesus speaks in parables it is to all ages. In the following quotes below , some protestants will claim, the passages are to either a select “unsaved” audience or in general to those who were never true Christians in the first place. For your Salvation's sake, the Vine Keeper can't cut off what wasn't attached in the first place!! Paul affirms JOHN 15 that the faithful may be "CUT OFF" He writes in Romans 11 "Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, PROVIDED you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off." 2 Peter 2:20, NIV: "If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning." Clearly if you have come to know the Lord but then fall back into the evil ways of the world, you will be worse off than those who do not know Christ. Luke 15: In the parable of the Prodigal Son, the Father will never turn his back on us but knows that its nearly always thru suffering and failure that we may come to seek forgiveness. If God has orchestrated or predestined our future before we were born, why would there be so much joy over one son/sheep who was lost than 100 ungrateful angry “faithful” followers? 2 Tim 2 IF we died with him, we will also live with him; 12 IF we endure, we will also reign with him. IFwe disown him, he will also disown us Hebrews 6 4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened,(the author was likely an eye-witness) who have tasted the heavenly gift, (received sanctification/grace!) who have shared in the Holy Spirit, (Baptised?) 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God (inspired by Scripture) and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen away (gravely sinned), to be brought back to repentance (state of grace). Calvinists will claim this passage refers to a specific audience of Jews or uncommitted Christians. But no one who has read and understood the implications of John and Luke 15 could make that assumption. In the light of Jesus’ parables which chronologically predate the epistle, no one familiar with them could suggest that the Hebrews text is not a conformational warning for ALL “enlightened“ Christians and those to come of what might happen if they “fall away.” Hebrews 10 The author concludes that Christianity is consequently superior to Judaism. The Christians are then warned against apostasy and the “fearful prospect of judgment” (10:27) that awaits “those who have spurned the Son of God” (10:29). They are urged to persevere in their faith following the heroic example of others well known to them. The emphasis on Christ’s priestly mediation and statements on faith and the Mosaic Law are not typical of other Pauline writings 26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[d] and again, “The Lord will judge his people.”[e] it is rather tragic and sad when some Christians make the text fit their theology rather than vice versa. Such I believe is the minority view of unconditional or eternal security. I believe there are many instances that the text says salvation can be lost in the following passages: Heb 6 4 It is impossible for those who have tasted the goodness of the word of God….. to be brought back to repentance (state of grace). Heb 10 26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, John 15 “IF you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; 10 IF you keep my commands, you will remain in my love….. IF you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 2 Peter 2:20, NIV: "If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning." Do I need to show more examples of warnings in Scripture of how salvation can be lost? No one with an openmind could read these passages and claim they refer to false or uncommitted Christians who may be tempted and fall away. Why would a born again need to pray daily for the grace of God to save us from temptation, IF only a TRUE believer has eternal security and cant fall away how can anyone belive ? Moreover, think about the Jesus CHOSE 12 disciples who all initially accepted him as true believers, but one after several years through temptation and greed chose to sell him out. Another chose to deny him three times. What does this say about loss of salvation and eternal security?. None of the great theologians of the Church like Origen, Augustine, Eranaus, Lucian, Aquinas and Luther who all knew such passages believed in unconditional salvation. Yes, some people who were never saved may fall away but one cant say all followers like Peter were never saved. See Rom 11:22 ....... also "it is the one who endures to the end who will be saved."(Matt 10:22) and "they believe for a while then in times of temptation, they fall away." Luke 8:13 Care to comment on these passages? "IF we hold fast to the Word I preach to you?" 1 Cor 3:15 Paul was clearly concerned about his followers who might return to former sinful ways that might lose them salvation, right? So may I ask are you a Calvinist who believes in eternal security? The path to salvation is a battlefield of fighting the good fight, keeping the faith and staying in the race, as Paul said to Timothy so that the reward is his. "Faith without GOOD WORKS is dead" faith! Where in the Sermon on the Mount did Jesus say "bless are those whose faith alone has saved them, for the Kingdom of God is theirs." Everything about his life and those of the disciples was about WORKS! Those who stand, stand by God's Grace, Those who fall, fall by their own freewill!
OSAS is built on a FALSE premise: the word "saved" That word is not defined correctly by OSAS clergy. In the new testament there are 2 similar words ...salvation and saved. Salvation in the GREEK is soterion which means to deliver from. Saved in the GREEK is sozo. which means to heal, to make whole. A person who believes about the death, burial and resurrection of JESUS..or accepts the gospel or JESUS , or grace or forgiveness or pardon is not healed or transformed in character just by acceptance or assent to truth. JESUS teaches ,that the meek shall inherit the Earth, the pure in heart shall see God, a person's righteousness has to exceed that of the Pharisees. Heb 12:14..one must be holy. ALSO God's forgiveness is void if one does not forgive others . MATT 6 , MATT 18 See parable of soils and.....the word "IF" in the bible!!!!! THEN….. look at 1 COR 9:27 where PAUL , of ALL people, does not have eternal security. He explains in the next chapter. Then there is JUDE, 2 PET 2, Heb 6 & 10 OSAS is for the deceived bible ignorant.
Amen and Amen! Thank you Alan. I have been struggling with this doctrine for many years, due to watching videos of people claiming to see Christians suffering in hell! I think I can finally feel secure in my faith in the finished work of my beloved saviour Jesus Christ!!
Steve you are still struggling with this doctrine because Allen is wrong. You can lose your salvation. Please watch this video for the real and scriptural truth. th-cam.com/video/2W28zs_0ZX0/w-d-xo.html
Why so many believe they are saved by what they do instead of what Jesus has done for us. Romans 11:6 It is all grace, not works, if it was by works, then it would not longer be grace, and if by grace, it is no more work. You can not mix law/works with grace. If you add one thing a person has to do to be saved, then it is all works and no grace. And no one can save themselves. We can only be saved. Romans 4:5-8 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. People who believe you can lose your salvation are trusting in their works, and not Jesus Finished work on the cross. They have never done the will of His Father. Matthew 7:21-23 Many will come to me on that day and call me Lord, and tell me about all their good works. Jesus says, Depart from me ye that work iniquity, I never knew you. Jesus tells us in verse 21 why these people believed they were saved, but they were lost.. They never did the will of His Father. What is the will of His Father? John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up on the last day. Salvation by works never works. We can only be saved by faith alone in Christ alone plus nothing. No works. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Free gift. No works. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace ye are saved, through FAITH, and that not of yourselves, (we did nothing for it) it is the GIFT of God, NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast. Those boasters that told Jesus about all their good works, never said one thing about Him dying and paying their sin debt in full so that they would not have to go to hell to pay for their sins. They never believed Jesus paid it all and we paid 0. They never trusted in His AMAZING GRACE, they trusted in their own works to save themselves. Not what Jesus did for us. John 6:29 Jesus, answered, and said unto them, this is the work of God, that ye BELIEVE ON THE ONE HE HAS SENT. AMAZING GRACE, JESUS PAID IT ALL AND WE PAID 0. IT IS FREE, or not at all. Good works are fine, they just can not justify a sinner. Keeping Gods laws is good, it just can not save us. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me HATH EVERLASTING LIFE. No works, FREE GIFT. Our sin debt is paid in full and we can never be condemned again. John 3:18 Those that believe you can lose your salvation are trusting in what they do to save themselves and are not saved.
See you in heaven. Ephesians 1:13-14 In whom ye also trusted, after ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, First Corinthians 15:1-4, in whom also after ye believed ye were sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise. Jesus knows you because you have believed on Him alone for the free gift of eternal life. John 3:18 Believers are no longer condemned.
God bless you for this, I have been with this doubt of my salvation for months, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I still struggle with time to time, but thank you nonetheless for clearing this up.
@@ImJsB1 Christ be with you how do you know it's a picture of Jesus? you didn't prove anything he said was true. Thats the way with protestants because of the holes in their doctrine being built on a foundation of apathy Faith alone. Come to Christ
Hebrews 1:26 - "For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries." Can you lose your salvation through willful sin... yes.
Andrew Hundeby Yup. The OSAS crowd will do all kinds of verbal gymnastics not to acknowledge that verse but no matter how hard they try, there’s no getting around it.
Thank you Allen, these videos keep me encouraged as a Christian man! Keep continue and our prayers to you and your family to give you the strength and endurance to keep running His race🙏🏿
My life is a novel. I was raised in two “ cults” and we were up and down constantly with salvation. So many people suffered mental issues because of it. Thank you Jesus, that He reached us with His Grace before it was eternally too late❣️
@@iicecourt00 The sacrifice of the Son was freely given to mankind by the Father. However, in order to receive the benefits of the atonement we must BELIEVE. If we do not we will not be saved. However, salvation depends not only on that FIRST step of faith. Afterward this step is supposed to become a continual WALK: "For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall LIVE by faith." (Romans 1:17) ............................................... Only by CONTINUING to live and walk by faith can we CONTINUE to enjoy forgiveness and cleansing that Christ bought for us (1 John 1:7-9). If we should choose to turn away from this walk of faith or even cease believing altogether we will not complete our journey and stand before Him: …21 Once you were alienated from God and were hostile in your minds because of your evil deeds. But now He has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy, unblemished, and blameless IN HIS PRESENCE- 23 IF indeed you CONTINUE IN YOUR FAITH, established and firm, NOT MOVED from the hope of the GOSPEL you heard, (Colossians 1:22-23) IF introduces the condition which we must fulfill if we are to complete our journey and stand in His presence. However, God has already given us the power to do this in the Person of the Holy Spirit. ............................................... The idea that we must CONTINUE in faith is repeated in other scriptures: Take notice, therefore, of the KINDNESS and severity of God: severity to those who fell, but kindness to you, IF you CONTINUE in His kindness. Otherwise you also will be CUT OFF. (Romans 11:22) The gift of the son was a great act of KINDNESS towards us on the part of God but we must CONTINUE in that kindness or else we will be CUT OFF from it. ............................................... To be CUT OFF from the Vine means that we no longer are SHARING His life. Without His life, we wither and die and, if we meet God in that condition, we will be burned: 6 If anyone does not remain in Me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers. Such branches are gathered up, thrown into the fire, and burned (John 15:6)
JimiSurvivor Salvation isn’t ongoing. If it was then what’s the purpose of sanctification. Salvation is said in done John 6:38-40 Romans 6:23 Hebrews 10:14-16 He said the "righteous" shall live by faith. He considers believers as righteous. Even if you remain faithless Jesus remains faithful He cannot deny Himself 2 Timothy 2:11-13
@@iicecourt00 God considers believers to be righteous because they have been forgiven of their sins We are not under condemnation but we still have remain in Christ and walk in the Spirit to remain free from the power of sin. Even if you remain faithless Jesus remains faithful He cannot deny Himself 2 Timothy 2:11-13 You interpreted 2 Timothy 2:13 as if it stood in isolation of verse 12. Interpreting verse 13 as you have actually makes it CONTRADICT verse 12 which says "if we deny (reject, disown, repudiate) Him He will deny (reject, disown, repudiate) us." My interpretation remains true to the meaning of these words and it reconciles both verses.
The willful sin was that of not believing that faith in Christ is all you need to be saved, that you had to go do something else to earn your salvation.
@@Keef220D What would have happened to Abraham if he had stood on his faith only and refused to go where God sent him? Faith without works is dead and wil not save us. Faith in Christ only is like saying God I trust in You but I don't have obey You. I don't have to walk in the good works you prepared in Christ Jesus for me to walk in. I will, instead, just have faith that that command just pertains to crowns and rewards and not eternal life. Salvation is ALL grace but that grace contains a call to obedience that goes beyond faith alone and requires our freewill to cooperate with God's calling. God bless.
@@godislove7410 Yes, I agree, we must first believe in Christ but then we must also f/u with repentance, batpism and a deisre and willingness to obey and to endure till the end in doing so.
@@lonleyndnGod said in the Old Testament that He would make a new covenant that is not like the old Covenant. And, that is what He did when Christ died and rose from the dead. The new testament tells us that we can't live by the old covenant but by the new. It tells us that living by the old covenant will bring death, but living by the Holy Spirit brings life. So, to say that the covenant hasn't changed is exactly contrary to what scripture tells us.
LOL....I've been surfing his videos and couldn't think of the name of the guy he looks like....Thanks for saving me an entire day of obsessing over it.
Bro.Parr I really enjoy your videos you are a great teacher! But I have to disagree with you on this subject... you forgot to mention the one thing God with all of His omnipotent and infinite power cannot or He will not do... and that's go against a person's will! Read Ezek. 33:11-20 I likened this to that of the angels they had the right or the freedom to choose but were not offered the gift of salvation. God didn't go against the angels will nor does He go against our will" God doesn't want robots! No one spoke more emphatically about hell then Jesus himself and those who are going there and what it takes to miss the mark. There are too many scriptures to mention that support how a person could choose to lose their salvation" the bottom line is those who practice lawlessness and if they don't repent of their sinful backsliding ways and die in their sin they wont see heaven's gates.
No one is perfect, even the disciples wondered who would be saved. Truth is, Christians are not perfect either, we slip and fall, make mistakes etc. etc. but a genuine Christian will ALWAYS return to God. That is the work of the Holy Spirit.
You reference an Old Testament scripture as opposed to New Testament when Jesus fulfilled mosaic law.: so if you disagree with Alan parr then you believe sins are greater than gods atonement and promises of salvation for those who are committed to believing in Jesus? If you think Jesus is greater than our sins then case close salvation can’t be lost. That doesn’t mean you can do whatever u want becusse a saved person is convicted by Holy Spirit to refrain from doing things of the world so even though we will not be perfect we have grace whereas the people who don’t accept Christ reject his gift of salvation
That still doesn’t prove you can lose your salvation. In order for that person to lose their salvation they have to have had it first which what brings the holiness, not of ourselves but of God because we believed on him. The scripture is for those who just stay in sin & never come to God.
No one who has not been imputed righteousness by faith in the work of Jesus will see God except to experience the wages sin meaning a sentence to Hell fire.
@@rare_one97 revelations 22:19 says God will remove you from the book of life if you remove from his scripture. Only saved people get into the book of life. How can you get salvation removed if you're always saved?
@@Aperson-rs4eh I’m not taking a away anything, So do you believe that you are securely saved. If you don’t believe in OSAS how u can you really have confidence that you are ? & what point can you possibly lose your salvation if you have not already have ? I’m not one of the people who claim osas & then live a life a without care of sin or faith just because I say believe in God. I believe in OSAS because I believe on what God word says, it’s scriptures that can be interpreted that one can lose their salvation but if you keep studying the scriptures over u would know that after awhile it’s talking about the apostates. The ones who never believe to begin with, really think about Matt 7:21 Jesus put more energy into saying “I never knew you” most of the time a person just say idk you but in that context those ppl where confess their works more than their beliefs etc. If you a true a Christian not sayin u not u should believe that u saved with confidence & that u will never lose it. If you do believe that you can’t lose it for yourself because u know how are with God then you can’t tell another that they can lose their because, you can’t see their heart.
We can break our covenant with God as I did it in year 2020 when I became very interested in the occult and started practicing pagan/occult things. Although the Holy Spirit eventually stepped in to warn me in many ways, if I decided to ignore the Holy Spirit I would have lost my inheritance. See I had to ask for repentance and except Jesus back into my life otherwise I would have been working for the devil. We cannot serve two masters as the Bible says. Therefore, you can lose your salvation.
@Jesus is My Greatest Friend Thank you! That's exactly it! Sin isn't ok, and if we keep sinning in spite of "being saved" there will be consequences. So if the Holy Spirit is truly in us we will wrestle with our sin, try and figure our what our sins are, where we fall short. If we're convicted we'll truly repent. The Lord can miraculously remove our sin but I think sometimes some of it is left for us to wrestle with, because He uses the fight as a tool to sanctify us. But we are supposed to engage. We have to wage war with our flesh. But the conviction to do so is itself a gift of grace, and not everyone does it, because not everyone professing to be saved is truly saved, and not everyone is on the same place on their path of sanctification, and a lot of reasons. But we're supposed to help each other with the fight, and point out dangers and blind spots to each other. All part of our incredible Sovereign God's plan for us.
I believe we can lose our salvation like Judas. He is close to Jesus as one of the apostles and in the end, he turned away from Jesus and committed suicide without salvation.
Allen Parr Jr.: I like your videos. This video made me feel peace about my salvation. Sometimes I can't imagine how I am saved, but it has nothing to do with me, praise God.
James 2:24 You see that a Person is considered righteous by what they DO and NOT BY FAITH ALONE. th-cam.com/video/vJo1OZcLtlA/w-d-xo.html Best bible passage to refute once saved always saved. th-cam.com/video/ssyA82Khka0/w-d-xo.html Millions of fake christians get wrong about Ephesians th-cam.com/video/CQvB0Gra_6M/w-d-xo.html Prove for rebirth through baptism.
You can research the shroud of turin that is a miraculous relique, or the picture of our Lady of Guadalupe that can not be of human origin either. Also, the eucharistic miracle of Lanciano was investigated scientificaly and baffles modern understanding. Jesus said to his disciples to eat his flesh snd drink his blood at the last supper, and to do it again in remembrance. He said that the bread is really his flesh, literally. Therefore the catholic priest consecrates the host in the eucharist, that it my in a mystic sense repeat the sacrifice of Jesus. And throzghout history hundreds of eucharist miracles are recorded and explored. The results are the same: the flesh is always that of an around 30-year old man, blood-Group AB, the cells are not cut and keep preserved thrpughout centuries which is actually "impossible". In 1917, in Fatima, 70 000 people witnessed the sun wonder, an atmospheric wonder, because oft the Holy Mother Mary, who gave messages to three children there, prophecies about the second world war, the spread of communism, the great apostasy (the greater part of the church authority lost faith, in fact), liturgical changes after 1960 ect. ("Fatima Crusaders", "The Remnant") If there is a rightousness that is also inscribed into our conscious, it must have reason. Every sin, according to the faith, is an offense to the Infinite Good, God, who created man out of His love that he might love him in return, see what is good and do it, and avoid evil. All that happens, our deeds included, have consequences. According to Jesus, hell is the consequence of unrepented sin. Many things point to the traditional catholic Church. Luther revolted out of personal reasons: he was unable to cope with his own sin. Hete sone quotes of Luther who "invented" the protestant ideas that this TH-camr uses: Christ taught: "If you wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. " Matt 19:17 Luther in speaking of the commandments teaches: "Their only purpose is to show man his impotence to do good and to teach him to despair of himself." Denifle`s Luther and Lutheranism, Volume lll "It does not matter what people do; it only matters what they believe." Erlangen Vol. 29, Pg. 126 "If we allow them - the commandments - any influence in our conscience, they become a cloak of all evil, heresies and blasphemies." Comm. ad Galat, p. 310 Christ taught: "Be therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves." Matt 10:16 "You know than how to discern the face of the sky, and you can not know the signs of the times?" (Matt 26:3) Luther teaches: "No good work happens as the result of one`s own wisdom; nur everything must happen in a stupor... Reason must be left behind for it is the enemy of faith. " Tischreden, Weimer Vl, 143, 25-35 "Reason is the devils handmaid and does and does nothing but blaspheme and dishonor all that God says or does." Against The Heavenly Prophets, On Images And Sacraments "Reason is directed opposed to faith, and one ought to let it be; in believers it should killed and buried." Erlangen, Vol 44 "A person that is baptized cannot, thou he would, lose his salvation by any sins however grieveous, unless je refuses to believe. For no sins can damn him but unbelief alone." The Babylonian captivity. It's worth mentioning on this point that Luther himself had early written: "Pray for me I am falling into the abyss of sin." - Enders, Vol 3, Pg. 193 "Be a sinner, and let your sins we strong, but let your trust in Jesus be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death and the world. We will commit sins while we are here, for this place is not where justice resides... No sin can separate us from him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day." 'Let your sins be strong' from 'The Wittenberg Project', 'The Wartburg Segment', translated by Erika Flores, from Dr. Martin Luther`s Sämmtliche Schriften, Letter No. 99,1 Aug. 1521 - Also Denifle`s Luther and Lutheranism "Do not ask anything of your conscience, and if it speaks, no not listen to it; if it insists, stifle it, amuse yourself; if necessary, commit some good big sin, in order to drive it away. Conscience is the voice of Satan, and it is necessary always to do just the contrary of what Satan wishes." J. Dollinger Christ taught: " Let your light shine bevor men, that they may see your good works and glorify your father who is in haeven." Matt 5:16 There are also many warnings in scripture that warns against falling away from salvation. (Gal 4:9, Col 1:23, Tim 1:19, 4:1, Heb 3:12-14, 12:14-15, 2 Peter 2:20-21, Apoc 2:4-5) Christ taught (in the words of St. James) "What shall it profit, my brethren, if a he has faith, but has no works? Shall faith be able to save him? So faith also, if it has not works, us dead in itself." James 2:14-17 Luther: "It is better to guard against good works than against sin." Trischreden, Wittenberg Edition, Vol. Vl., p 160 "God works are bad and are sin like the rest." Denifle`s Luther and Lutheranism Vol. Ill "There is no scandal greater more dangerous, more venomous, than a good outward life, manifested by good works and a pious mode of life. That is the grand portal, the highway that leads to damnation." Denifle "He that says the Gospel requires works for salvation, I say, flat and plain, is a liar." Tischreden, P. 137 Christ taught: "Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill." Luther teaches: "Peasants are no better than straw. They will not hear the word and they are without sense; therefore they must be compelled to hear the crack of the whip and the whiz of the bullets and it is only what they deserve." Erlangen Vol. 24, pg. 294 (I thank Lua Tran) God bless you. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death. Amen.
One of my favorite verse which also confirms that we cannot lose our salvation is Romans 8:38-39. It reads, ““For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 8:38-39 NIV Nothing and no one can separate us from God’s love which is in Christ Jesus.
Yep, but silly man tries to pollute that by saying we can voluntarily leave God. When He says nothing can pluck us from Him, that also means that we, ourselves, cannot pluck ourselves from Him. Not a license to live in sin, but rather eternal security that when we do stumble or struggle and fall to temptation, we still belong to Him.
■ "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:" (2 Timothy 2:12) Note the "IFs" regarding the holy spirit: ■ "For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." (Romans 8:13,14) Note the "IF" regarding abiding in Jesus: ■ "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." (Jesus, in John 15:6) Note the IF regarding returning to unrepentance and willful sin: ■ "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries." (Hebrews 10:26,27) Note the if - the consequence - of not remaining "in His goodness" or grace: ■ "For if God spared not the natural branches [the Israelites], take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." (Romans 11:21,22) Note the warning: ■ "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it." (Hebrews 4:1)
@@TheBibleSays Eph 1:13-14, “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise, which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
I love your teachings and happen to agree with all that you've said except for the once saved always saved doctrine - reason being Hebrew 6: 4-6 "For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt". Unless my interpretation of this passage is incorrect I believe a true believer for whatever reason, can turn away from God and loose their salvation . Continue with the excellent teachings - you are a blessing!
Seems people will overlook this truth. OSAS is a lie from the pits of hell. Lukewarm believers cling to it, because they have tickling ears. They try and make the most high in their image. Anyone who teaches OSAS is a false shepherd, and will answer for it at judgement. People who fall for it are without excuse, because they suppose to study their word.
HalleluYAH Praise YAHUAH Keep working for your salvation. Best of luck to you. Since trusting alone in Christ isn’t enough I’ll go with (Ephesians 2:8-9) and all 60+ verses that deal salvation through Christ alone
God bless you for your comment! I’m reading commentary from my KJV study Bible, and it is saying that in Hebrews 6 this refers to a hypothetical situation of what would happen to a saved person if they could fall away.
James 2:18 “Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.” King James Version (KJV)
@@TheNthMouse only to those who don't do the "work" keeping HIS Laws by faith... yeah their talk would be cheap as from your response I can see all you do is say you believe n keep sinning... no Repentance
Whoa, did not expect such a strong reaction to my initial question below. I have another question for the OSAS crowd. Does a person still have freewill after they have a genuine conversion? I have a Jesus style question. Why do the Apostles send warnings about hell to people that have genuinely accepted Christ?
Even Jesus, throughout the NT, tells people that they must confess their sins to one another. Why would He warn people of the consequences of sin? Did He lie??? You still have to follow the Ten Commandments! Revelation says “Nothing unclean shall enter.” That doesn’t sound like once saved always saved.
Thank you Pastor Parr for posting this video! I followed along in a copy of the Holy Bible I have at my residence and I appreciate that you backed up this video with scripture from the books of the Holy Bible! And all of it made sense! My problem is with doubt and has been for a long time but with what you presented and backing it with what the Holy Bible says- I found encouraging and the other day I prayed the sinner's prayer and the prayer of salvation and I don't remember doing those steps when I was younger. I took the time to do so and I hope that my doubt is gone once and for all! Thanks and God Bless!
God through the Holy Spirit has shown me several things relating to the afterlife with the purpose of convincing people like yourself. Stuff like Heaven and Hell, Angels, and evil Spirits the Lord Jesus (not worthy at all), a miracle happened to me that saved my life (thank you God) & so much more. I am more than happy to give further details.
What about the ten virgins five was ready with oil in their laps , they were all virgins but only five could say, here com's the bridegroom let as go and meet Him chose with out oil , meaning they did not have a continuous relationships with Him could not meet Him they could not depend on their fellow virgins oil , only to have their own oil in their laps. PAUL continue to say , without sanctification you will not see GOD,
All ten were ready at first, but their waning faith prevented them from going with the bridegroom. For by grace are you saved through faith in Jesus. As long as your faith is in Jesus, you have relationship and security. When you no longer have faith in Jesus, it will not help you to have faith in a misinterpreted promise of Jesus. God's promises only apply to those that place their faith in Jesus!
Mr Combrink, the parable of the ten virgins is NOT written to the church but is written to the latter day Jews and gentiles during the 7 yr tribulation period. The Scriptures can only can only be interpreted thru a dispensational framework. In the church age Christians cannot lose the Holy Spirit.
@@deniserife7694 Yes, the very nature and context of the "10 Virgins is a reference to the very LAST (literal) days of the End-times, and in the book of Revelations we have a Clear warning that truly appears to jibe with the Parable. That warning is simply, that there will be a "Great falling away." A Great Falling Away---obviously---is a picture of Christians who "Turn away" from the Faith they once HAD. The LORD will not circumvent our will; HE doesn't FORCE us to STAY in HIS word. If believers in the very Last days can "Fall," believers in ANY age can Fall. Galatians 3:1-16 is painfully Clear that Christians still are allowed their "Free Will." GOD does not FORCE us to "Con- tinue in HIS Word (John8:31)." How could language BE more clear than in 1Tim.4? Or Heb. 6:4-6? The LORD even mentions the Israelites of the Exodus led by Moses; THEY were the Old Test. version of toDAYS Christians. GOD held them accountable by the Miracles HE had shown them. 1Cor.10:1-5, makes it quite CLEAR that Many of them "Fell," despite all the "Signs" that their GOD had provided them. Do you believe that Angels are Greater than us? Scriptures says WE were created "...a little LOWER than the Angels." Well, Why did he allow THEM to Fall, if WE cannot fall? Lucifer was "Perfect in ALL his ways ( including Love and Knowledge)," and yet---GOD did NOT prevent his demise. If you really Study Pauls writings, you'd see, he spent a LOT of time warning of "Wolves entering INTO the fold." Why would he issue SO MANY Warnings to New believers if there was absolutely NO chance of falling away? We must be careful of "Watered-down" teaching. Please, take no offense---I am only attempting to shed a little light on this Subject. GOD bless you, and Stay healthy.
the subject has to do w/ Rev. 15:15 the trib. rapture which is the second rapture after the church age at the beg. of the trib about this. they have to be looking for him at that time to be taken. The church doesn't have to look for him, your going but if you want that crown you have to look actively for him everyday 2 Tim.4:8
I do find it amazing that people use Jude to defend the "always saved" doctrine. V 5 says "He saved the people out of Egypt and afterward destroyed them that believed not (continued not, I Cor 10:1-10)". We know He only saved Joshua and Caleb (but saved ALL the others). Thru rebellion they backslid and were all destroyed. I Cor 10:21 "you cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devil's", same chapter, same topic, diff example. V 6 The angels IN heaven (without a sin nature) rejected God, followed Lucifer, now Satan, and He condemned them to hell. V 7 Sodom GIVING THEMSELVES OVER ... you know that story. Jude clearly is making the case we can backslide and turn the grace of God into lasciviousness (v 4, depravity, sexual sin extremes). They are TWICE DEAD, whose fruit withers, without fruit, plucked up by the root (v 12). Jesus CAN keep us, and will but not against our will. This is why "snatch" is the key there. We cannot snatch ourselves. He didn't say we cannot NOT MOVE ourselves because we can do what we want. Snatch is from outside. This is why He keeps our steps, guides our way, preserves the Word forever. Stay in it and you are preserved. Sin, if repented of, is forgotten and removed. Jesus told Peter (an apostle, saved) in John 13:8 "if I wash thee not, thou has no part with me". That is extreme and complete. I don't think Jesus was exaggerating to make His point. And in Rev 21:7-8 "he that overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, unbelieving, .... and all liars will have their part in the lake of fire". I don't think he's just saying "sinners" there. 8 follows 7 and we must overcome. Every church (Rev ch 2-3) was told that. Some were told He would take their candle out if they did not return to their first love, Him. They started right and turned away. Peace brother.
You're now making it about your works then rather than about Gods grace, which means that in order to be saved, you need to be like the pharisee and keep the whole law. Good luck, only one managed to do that. I suggest you study the scripture again with those versus in the video. When God saves he saves to the uttermost so that we can have full assurance and confidence, otherwise we're living in constant fear of whether we were good enough, did I sin enough etc etc
@@thehourifirstbelieved3655 - Just read it in context. If the angels in heaven sinned and they did not have a sin nature then why do you think God used that scenario as a reference for us? God can save us to the uttermost and will but not against our will. We get saved by trusting in Christ, we stay saved by trusting in Christ. Live by faith. Live in faith. Live in the Word. I trust the Word, not my works. How can you say you are trusting God but sinning at the same time?
@@redfaux74 because God doesnt wipe out our old sin nature until we die and receive new bodies..that's why he gives us new bodies..because these ones are tarnished with sin. Please read Roman's 6 and 7. When we believe in Christ we become new creatures with new natures..but our old nature is still in our mortal bodies..that's not saved..what's saved is our new nature and 1 john 3:9 illustrates that perfectly..that he who is born of God cannot sin..our new nature cannot sin.. hence perfection..hence being able to enter Gods rest eternally. God bless you..I pray you understand this and begin to enjoy your salvation
@@redfaux74 also..you said we stay saved by trusting in Christ..that sounds like you're trusting on your will and works to keep you saved..if we couldn't earn salvation.then we definately cant keep it..only he can..and he said so himself in John 6:39.
@@thehourifirstbelieved3655 - Please read my comment first. I've read Romans over 50 times. It won't change. Why did the angels in heaven (before Earth was created) sin and God used that to warn us? They didn't have a sin nature yet God warns US not to sin in the New Testament? Using them as an example for us?
One of my greatest fears was losing everything. When I offered myself to Christ, my biggest fear became “what if I go back to my old ways?”. But I don’t think im afraid of that anymore because where there is love, there is God, where there is God there is love, and wherever there is love, I will follow.
I do agree that once we are truly saved it will hurt us and our spirit if we keep sinning. But I don't believe in once saved always saved. I'm sorry but there are too many scriptures to back this up
@@timothyseals3791 You've got to humbly acknowledge in your heart that God did the work. Otherwise you will claim all the credit for yourself. You won't be going to heaven in these circumstances.
The process of salvation is not final until you hear the words "well done thou good and faithful servant, enter in to the joy of your Lord", until then we are working out our salvation with fear and trembling.phil.2:12
Yes, it is biblical. There's lot's of evidence that we can't lose our salvation. Jesus said in John 5:24, "Truly truly I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who has sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed from death to life." That is exactly what salvation is, the process of crossing from spiritual death to spiritual life. That transaction cannot be undone, hence we cannot lose it. In Romans 6, Paul assures Christians that they have dies to sin of being "in Adam". This does not mean we have died to sinning. We all know that. He mentions this 11 times in Romans 6 in the following verses back to back, 6:2, "we died to sin." 6:6, "so that the body of sin would rendered powerless." 6:7, "no longer a slave to sin." 6:7, "we died to sin." 6:11, "count yourselves dead to sin." 6:14, "for sin shall not be your master." 6:17, "you used to be slaves to sin." 6:18, "you have bee set free from sin." 6:20, when you were slaves to sin." 6:22, "you have been set free from sin." 8:2, "you have been set free from the law of sin and death." There verses should seal the deal for a born-again Christian. Will you ever be an unbeliever again? Wil Jesus Christ ever leave you? Absolutely not! You have received the very life of Jesus Christ and have been marked by the holy spirit (Ephesians 1:13). Here are more verses to prove you can't lose salvation: Hebrews 6:18, 7:25, 13:5 Ephesians 1:13-14, 2:8 John 3:16, 5:24, 6:37-40, 10:28-29, 11:25-26 1 Peter 1:4-5 2 Timothy 2:13 Titus 1:2 Romans 8:35-39 To further help Christians know that they can't lose salvation, it's important to ask the question, "Why did Jesus take away our sins?" And yes, he did die to take our sins, but there's a second reason why Jesus died on the cross: So that the spirit of God would never leave we once we are saved. That is how the cross and resurrection go together. And that, my friends, is why once saved, always saved is true and biblical. God bless you all.
all.mine123 you can repent of all your sins and be forgiven but there’s one sin JESUS said that you will never be forgiven of is blasphemy of the HOLY SPIRIT.
@@randalkihei9261 The born again follower of Christ won't commit that sin. "But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." God chose us, we didn't choose Him.
no, it’s not biblical i could literally walk away from God right now and not be saved there are also verses showing that we can lose our salvation. 1 Timothy 6:10 is one of those verses
I do believe when I gave myself to God I was quite young and I believe the holy spirit will continue to work in our hearts but I know that I am a human being and it's so easy for me to sin I do trust my saviour that he will allow the holy spirit to work in me we go through trials and temptation. I know if I sin God will forgive me but I cannot continue in sin because if I do I am lost
@Justin Lim "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries." This is not about losing salvation. This is about God punishing you for continuing on sin. "For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth." Hebrews 12:6 KJV "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame." Hebrews 6:4-6 KJV These guys were never saved. "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV Salvation is a gift. Gifts are FREE. And it lasts forever. "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption." Ephesians 4:30 KJV You're sealed, it's a done deal.
@Justin Lim If you truly believed in OSAS before and converted, then you are: "If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself." 2 Timothy 2:13 KJV If this applies for someone who loses their faith, I think it would apply to you as well. Curiosirt though, why did you stop believing in OSAS?
@Justin Lim "And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16: 30-31 KJV You just need to believe, baptism is a work, so you don't have to be baptised to be saved. "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." Romans 4:5 KJV This hipotheticsl guy, did not have any works, which includes baptism, and was saved
Few false doctrines are more dangerous than the Calvinistic assertion of “eternal security” or “once saved, always saved.” Sadly, this dangerous doctrine flatly contradicts Scripture, and it is commonly used as a smokescreen to justify sinful lifestyles. In other words, “once saved, always saved” appeals to the most carnal leanings of our humanity. It gives false legitimacy for sin, false comfort to sinners, and builds a pseudo-biblical barrier between countless sinners and repentance. Let’s put it this way; nothing can force you to separate yourself from God except you. Satan can’t make you do it any more than he made Eve do it. Eve exercised her free will. Adam exercised his free will. And they both suffered the consequences of their actions. Sin separates us from a right relationship with God, but it does not remove us from the love of God. For example, “…(Romans 5:8).” God loves us even while we are in sin, but to say the cross made sin acceptable is to undermine the cross’s necessity in the first place completely. The phrasing shows Paul’s assumption that believers would naturally understand sinful lifestyles must be discarded after salvation. Furthermore, the apostle Peter calls us to follow in the footsteps of Jesus, (1 Peter 2:21-22).” A few verses down, he underscores that Jesus “(1 Peter 2:24-25).” "...Go and sin NO MORE" (Jesus) James 4:4 You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. Wrong understanding of Grace: "Grace gives you the freedom to sin." Right understanding of Grace: "Grace gives you the power NOT to sin." We don’t do good works to become saved, we do good works because we are saved. OSAS is not Biblical. Please study your Bibles vs listen to man.
Yo you spit that from the Bible so clearly💯👀🔥and I would’ve used those same verses plus more!! It is so clear from the Bible when we read it. Glad you know the word women of God🙏🏽
I'd say that yes, once you are saved you are always saved. If, for instance, you continue to live a life of sin (and that of course, is only between you and God, yet can be highlighted by others in love), then I would say that possibility you were never saved to begin with. But even then, we are led into the dangerous territory of, ok so what is the bar? So if someone tells white lies as a 'Christian' and someone else is found to be continually cheating on their spouse as a 'Christian', then who is 'going to heaven'? By our standards, more likely the first person. By God's standards, none of them except if by Jesus which covers all sin, although yes we should still run from it. I pray that makes sense.
@@connorkilby4598 there is a way that seems right to a man, but it’s end is death. It sounds right to our flesh to say that person must not have ever been saved. Unfortunately it’s just not what the Bible says. The Bible says that someone who is truly saved and forgiven can in fact lose their salvation. Jesus taught this in Matthew 18:23-35 when he tells the story of a guy who was forgiven of all of his debt but because he refused to forgiven his fellow servant then all of his forgiveness was revoked. Then Jesus said to his disciples this would happen to them as well if they didn’t obey Him. Check it out and come out of your deception.
@@abideintheWord We find the Parable of the Unforgiving Servant only in Matthew 18:23-35. The Apostle Peter had asked how many times one should forgive, "Till seven times?" and Jesus answered, "Not seven times but seventy times seven" (Matthew 18:21-22). The context of this passage is Jesus teaching His disciples about the "kingdom of heaven." We can take some very important principles from this parable and apply them to our lives today. The servant whose lord forgave him much, ten thousand talents, equivalent to several millions of dollars, was unwilling to forgive another servant who owed him a hundred denarii. A denarius was a day’s wage and was worth approximately sixteen cents. Therefore, compared to what the first servant was forgiven, this was a very small amount. The principle here is, "the one forgiven much should forgive much." In other words, the principle of forgiveness is that grace or forgiveness to another is without limit. The disciples are not to count the number of times they forgive. Rather, as the parable teaches, they are to forgive much because God has forgiven much. In the Parable of the Unforgiving Servant, Jesus is presenting a new principle that is similar to the basis of the forgiveness command for believers found in Ephesians 4:32, "And be ye kind to one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you." Jesus is teaching His disciples pre-cross, and therefore in the pre-church age, but the basis for forgiveness is the same. Because God has forgiven us, we are to forgive each other. Therefore, because we have received much grace, "while we were yet sinners Christ died for us" (Romans 5:8), we are commanded to give that same grace to others. In the Parable of the Unforgiving Servant, the first servant’s debt was forgiven, and he was not required to repay until his unforgiving nature was discovered. In contrast, our sin debt was paid in full by Christ and is the only basis for God’s forgiveness. We cannot repay our debt to God or earn our salvation. It is a gift of grace (Ephesians 2:8-9). Therefore, in the Parable of the Unforgiving / Unmerciful / Unjust Servant, Jesus is teaching His disciples, and us by extension, that forgiveness should be in like proportion to the amount forgiven. The first servant had been forgiven all, and he then should have forgiven all. In like manner, a child of God by faith through Christ has had all sins forgiven. Therefore, when someone offends or sins against us we should be willing to forgive him from a heart of gratitude for the grace to which we ourselves are debtors. So, yeah... once your saved.... your always saved. Stop preaching add-ons to salvation 😉
My friend and I had this discussion today. She believes that even if a believer worships the beast and takes the mark of the beast, to save their life so they can buy food etc.., they will still have eternal life with God because because nothing we do will separate us from God if we accepted Him and believed on Him. I said that if someone takes the Mark and worships the beast, they never belonged to God no matter what they claimed to believe. Was i wrong to try to correct her by telling her that those who take mark and worship the beast, even if it is just to save their life, they will not be going into eternity with Christ.
You are right. The mark of beast is during Tribulation period which comes after the RAPTURE. And during Tribulation period the Holy spirit is taken away from earth and only 1.44 lacs people are saved as chosen by God. So a believer need not worry about Mark of beast. She must have faith that, she would be along with Christ during Rapture.
If the person is a born again believer, they won’t even be around to accept the mark of the beast. I know this is an older post, just passing through and stopped for a second.
I agree , I believe someone thinking they can lose salvation is very prideful and self righteous,we are saved because of what God did We are not saved by what we do If you are a true believer sealed and regenerated by the Holy Spirit you can't lose salvation God will continue the work he started in you ! Where does the line draw when we lose salvation If you text and drive your sinning If you run a red light your sinning If you go to the store and pick up a item and don't put it back in the right place your Sinning If it's 4:58pm and someone asked what time is it ,if you say 5:00pm your sinning We can't repent of ever single sin that happens if that was the case we would repent ever second of the day If you don't love your neighborhood and God 24/7 your sinning If you over eat your sinning If u spend money you don't have and go into a lot of debt wasting money your sinning The Holy Spirit does most of the work we just follow Are works do matter Works as in "praying,worship,fasting and fellowship" all of this goes along with faith because we do these things to stay close to God God will discipline his real children
Sin is a condition of the heart; not of actions. A sinful heart leads to sinful action. It is willing rebellion against God. Saying it's 5:00 when it is 4:58 is not a sin. That is straining at nats and swallowing camels. And it matters not what people think or believe, it matters what the Word of God says. The truth is not determined by what we believe. There is plenty of scripture pointing to the fact that a person can give away their relationship with God and be damned.
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. Hebrews 6:4-6
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. 2 Peter 2:20-22
I don't mean to sound argumentive or anything but it is the duty of all Christians to correct and reprove one another. It wouldn't be love if we didn't. Also we are charged by God to be his watchmen and will be held accountable for not giving warning to others. God bless.
cheron buchanon a. "I believe someone thinking they can lose salvation is very prideful and self-righteous, we are saved because of what God did We are not saved by what we do This is interesting since EVERY orthodox teacher, apologist, author, and theologian for the first 1600 years (back to the First Century) taught that Christians could fall away from the faith. Even Augustine and Luther did not believe in OSAS as it is currently taught. Are all of these people throughout history "prideful and self-righteous" Because they did not teach OSAS. Conversely is EVERYONE who teaches OSAS humble and self-effacing? Surely you are not going to make that generalization. b. "If you are a true believer sealed and regenerated by the Holy Spirit you can't lose salvation God will continue the work he started in you" Although you did not cite any scripture this seems to come from Philippians 1:6: "being confident of this, that He who began a good work in you will continue to perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus." If you read this scripture in the context you will see that Paul was not saying that the work God begins in EVERY believer INEVITABLY continue and reach completion. What he said was he was CONFIDENT (or PERSUADED) that it would in the case of the Philippians. Paul went on to give REASONS this belief and none of it had anything to do with a belief in OSAS. In part, his confidence was based upon the Philippian's active long-term partnership with him in the ministry of the gospel "...always making the supplication with joy in my every supplication for all of you, for your PARTNERSHIP in the GOSPEL from the first day UNTIL NOW, He had other reasons as well: "Accordingly, it is right for me to feel this about all of you since I have you in the heart. Both in my chains and in the DEFENCE and CONFIRMATION of the gospel, you all are fellow PARTAKERS OF GRACE with me. (Philippians 1:4-7) c. It looks to me like the Philippians were very well grounded in truth and grace. This is the reason for Paul's confidence that they would continue on in the Faith. He says nothing about a belief that they would continue because of OSAS? If THAT had been the real reason for his confidence then would he have not said so in the passage? Also if OSAS had been the basis for his belief that "the work that had begun in them would continue until the Day of Christ Jesus" then he would have had the same confidence for ALL the believers under his care but he was NOT at all CONFIDENT about whether the Galatians would continue in the faith: "But now, having known God, but rather having been known by God, how do you TURN AGAIN to the weak and destitute principles, to which you desire to be ENSLAVED again anew? 10 You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11 I fear for you, lest perhaps I have toiled for you IN VAIN. (Galatians 4:9-11) If Pauls "labors" had saved the Galatians from damnation and brought them into onto a path that would lead them UNCONDITIONALLY into eternal joy I hardly see how could say his work was "in VAIN." On the other hand, if they were turning backward I could easily see how he would be concerned. Being "enslaved AGAIN" is the inverse from being freed from slavery through salvation. d. "We are not saved by what we do" If by "works" you mean meritorious works of the LAW (like circumcision, eating kosher, keeping feast days) then I agree because these are not required under the New Covenant. It is to this KIND of ACTION that Paul is referring when he contrasts "works" and faith in the work of salvation. However, when James, speaks of WORKS he does not mean this kind of action. Instead, he means "acts of obedience" The word of faith cannot save us unless it is accompanied by an obedient response of the will.
You stated genuine Christians WILL ENDURE to the end. That brings the implication that we NEED to endure to the end to be saved, which is indeed biblical. I would agree enduring is not about works merit system, however you say later when exploring Eph 2:8-9 that remaining saved has nothing to do from you. You can't have both ways, is it because a person endures after initial salvation or because there is nothing a person can do or not do to remain saved. Please pick one, it can't be both.
What Does Jesus Teach Yes, salvation is rendered according to a merit system: (Romans 2:6-7) “6 God “will repay each person according to what they have 👉done👈.” 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give 👉eternal life.” The problem is that Allen does not understand that Paul was only condemning one form of merit which would be “strict merit”. In contrast, “congruent merit” is the system God has implemented for us to obtain eternal life. It is basically a system whereby God rewards people with “eternal life” according to their works, but with the understanding that this is something He wants to do...not something He has to do.
@@iicecourt00 Kindly explain the context and not just say "read in context". Too often someone says the other is wrong due to incorrect context, but never really prove that context. If you can do so, it would be helpful to understand your point.
What about the 10 virgins parable ? They’re a representation of a Christian and they ALL fell asleep waiting for the husband (Jesus) but when they heard He was arriving (most likely the rapture) only 5 of them were wise enough to have oil in their lamps (speaking about an intimate relationship with God. Basically, your gas tank is full lol) and it lights up the way for them to go to the bedchambers. The foolish virgins asked if they could have some of the oil from the wise virgins but the wise ones were wise once more and told them that they needed to go buy some oil for themselves at the market (“pay a price” for that relationship. And I don’t mean we are saved by works. Don’t misunderstand me. But the “price” I speak about is a life of sacrament and intimacy with God in prayer and the reading of His Word). So the foolish virgins left and went to buy oil. But upon their return, the bedchambers were closed and no one else could enter (like the Noah story when the door to the boat was shut.) They knocked and the king (bridegroom) told them to go away because He knew them not ! And He also alluded to them being unclean because of the hour that they were knocking on His door. These were a representation of CHRISTIANS. I strongly believe that if you’re living a righteous life before God then you’re fine. But if you’re a Christian and you continue to sin then I’m sorry, buddy but you can’t be near God cuz He is HOLY. There’s another passage that says that we must have white clothes that is neither stained nor wrinkled (meaning our souls must be clean before Him) and there’s another verse that says that we must be holy because God is holy.
Keep preaching it sister! I have several videos over on my channel warning people about this dangerous doctrine. It’s the same lie of the devil in Genesis 3:4 when the serpent told Eve she could sin and not die. Please check out some of my vids. I think they will be a blessed to you. God bless!
Can you explain the 7 churches of revelation about Luke warm church laodicea...why did Jesus say this then revelation 3:5 “He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.” Revelation 3:5 “Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.” Revelation 3:10 KJV A little bit off topic here but this is showing that the whole church is not going in the rapture...once saved always saved can’t be true
D M yes I’m familiar with dispensationalism but these scriptures I’m putting here apply to the church the body of Christ...so where did I wrongly divide
Rev 3:5 is the promise to the true believers who overcomes. Remember the book of life was written from the foundation of the world Rev 17:8. God is not holding a pen and an eraser writing and deleting people’s names on daily basis from the book of life. There are 2 kinds of believers, false believers and true believers. False believers are those who hear the word and not do it, I.e. it’s those who build their house in a sand Math 7:26, when trial comes, they easily fall! True believers are those who hear the word and do it, i.e. their house is built upon a rock (Jesus Christ), when trial comes they NEVER fall! Math 7:25. The Bible is very clear, true believers, who hear the word and do it, will NEVER fall! For they are built upon the rock and nothing can separate them from the rock!
1 Corinthians 3:16-17 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
I hope the scriptures are self explanatory, but I have also including comments on many of them for clarity's sake. Please read them carefully: 1 Corinthians 9:27 "But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified." If Paul, the greatest Christian to have ever lived (probably), should confess that it was possible for him to be 'disqualified' from the race, whilst having the strong 'belief' that he did, how much more should we be careful to watch our own steps in regard to holiness and disciplining ourselves? To me, this is a key verse against OSAS because he wouldn't mention the possibility of 'disqualification' at all otherwise. Romans 11:19-22 "Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off." Paul is comparing the severity of judgement of the Jews to our own possible judgement, should we not be walking with Him. It means that someone who is 'grafted in' to the tree (gentiles into God's kingdom) can also be cut out of it again. This is clear teaching against OSAS. Hebrews 6:4-6 "For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt." Self explanatory, I think. someone who has 'tasted the heavenly gift' is someone who has been born again, yet the author is remarking that to truly 'fall away' is to 'crucify Jesus again' and hold Him up to public shame, in contempt, and that this is possible for someone who has been born again. It suggests that it is indeed possible to lose salvation, and that salvation must be guarded closely by those that have received it, to run the race and finish it well. Hebrews 10:26 "For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins." Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’" How many so called Christians believe they are saved, when in fact they work iniquity? You might say that anyone with belief WILL be saved, and that anyone who teaches that this is not true is a false prophet/teacher/pastor etc. Well, Jesus Christ is telling you different here, I'm afraid. People don't cast out demons or heal in His name without SOME belief in His power, and believing Him to be real. Yet, it is iniquity that prevents them from truly knowing Him. I understand that it can be argued that they were never 'saved' in the first place, but only a belief saving you is still under fire from this verse, because it's simply not true. You can quote other scriptures to back your points, but without the balance of scripture, you only have half the story, and it makes this OSAS doctrine you're preaching false. Matthew 10:22 "And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved." 1 Timothy 4:1 "Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons" I put these 2 together because they are related; one must 'endure to the end to be saved', because in the end days people will depart from the faith and fall into error. I pray this doesn't happen to anyone I know, but there it is... believers CAN fall away and be seduced by the devil, and you can bet that they will not be saved in the end because of that. 1 Corinthians 15:1-2 "Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you-unless you believed in vain." It is possible to believe in vain. Grace alone does not save us, we need faith... and faith without works is dead. How many people calling themselves true believers are producing the works of the Holy Spirit in their lives? Less than you might think, is my opinion. We must 'hold fast' to every aspect of the gospel, and tremble in fear that people we know and love might not make it... we must 'work out our salvation with fear and trembling' Ezekiel 18:24 But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die. Finally, this scripture from the OT tells us that a righteous man who turns to wickedness will not find grace; he will die. The flipside is that an unrighteous man who turns to righteousness can be saved - and that's the good news for all of us.
Do not misinterpret "work out your own salvation." This means to let it come out of you, not that you can keep salvation by works. The very next verse says, "For it is God that causes you to will and to do His good pleasure.":It is not by your own works, but the Holy Spirit in you that gives you the will to do what God desires. The credit belongs to Him and not to your own self. If you think it does, you have fallen from grace. It can't be both works and grace. You must choose one or the other. And we know that nobody is saved by their works.
Graft Me You will be judged without mercy if you show no mercy. Mercy is an act. An act is a work. Faith without works is dead. We are justified by works and not by faith alone. Read James 2:13-on.
Tris am with you 100% , OSAS I don't see lining up with Jesus teaching, He said : if your right eye offend you pluck it out" that would mean take drastic steps to rid yourself of anything that would hinder holiness, in contrast OSAS teaches that no matter what you do r dont do you still on your way to heaven
@@comeagain9074 if a person plays around in sin they're probably not truly saved therefore there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins for them because Jesus is the only way out. the Bible is clear that we do not work for our salvation in any way otherwise we would be able to boast
Your videos are great. But Im not sure why you said that the bible does not teach that God does not send people to hell. Luke 12:5 "But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him"
Hi, I think what he is saying is that God have us Jesus as a way out of hell. God gives us the chance to choose. God creates every person to be his own. We send ourselves to hell by not choosing Jesus.
@@hellbillyoutlaw8719 Revelation 21:8 "As for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, the murderers, the fornicators, the sorcerers, the idolaters, and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death." The first death is the grave. The second is the lake of fire.
Verses of scripture that make me question “ once saved , always saved “ - “Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; and, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;” - Colossians 1:15-23 KJV - bible.com/bible/1/col.1.15-23.KJV -“Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;” Hebrews 3:12-14 KJV bible.com/bible/1/heb.3.12-14.KJV -“I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:5-6 KJV bible.com/bible/1/jhn.15.5-6.KJV “For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,” Hebrews 10:26 KJV bible.com/bible/1/heb.10.26.KJV “Yes, but remember-those branches were broken off because they didn’t believe in Christ, and you are there because you do believe. So don’t think highly of yourself, but fear what could happen. For if God did not spare the original branches, he won’t spare you either. Notice how God is both kind and severe. He is severe toward those who disobeyed, but kind to you if you continue to trust in his kindness. But if you stop trusting, you also will be cut off.” Romans 11:20-22 NLT bible.com/bible/116/rom.11.20-22.NLT “Then Jesus told this story: “A man planted a fig tree in his garden and came again and again to see if there was any fruit on it, but he was always disappointed. Finally, he said to his gardener, ‘I’ve waited three years, and there hasn’t been a single fig! Cut it down. It’s just taking up space in the garden.’ “The gardener answered, ‘Sir, give it one more chance. Leave it another year, and I’ll give it special attention and plenty of fertilizer. If we get figs next year, fine. If not, then you can cut it down.’”” Luke 13:6-9 NLT bible.com/bible/116/luk.13.6-9.NLT ““Work hard to enter the narrow door to God’s Kingdom, for many will try to enter but will fail. When the master of the house has locked the door, it will be too late. You will stand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Lord, open the door for us!’ But he will reply, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’ Then you will say, ‘But we ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’ And he will reply, ‘I tell you, I don’t know you or where you come from. Get away from me, all you who do evil.’ “There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, for you will see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, but you will be thrown out. And people will come from all over the world-from east and west, north and south-to take their places in the Kingdom of God.” Luke 13:24-29 NLT bible.com/bible/116/luk.13.24-29.NLT “And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenæus and Philetus; who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.” 2 Timothy 2:17-18 KJV bible.com/bible/1/2ti.2.17-18.KJV “But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry; having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith. And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not. I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully. For some are already turned aside after Satan.” 1 Timothy 5:11-15 KJV bible.com/bible/1/1ti.5.11-15.KJV “O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. The first to Timothy was written from Laodicea, which is the chiefest city of Phrygia Pacatiana.” 1 Timothy 6:20-21 KJV bible.com/bible/1/1ti.6.20-21.KJV “but I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.” 1 Corinthians 9:27 KJV bible.com/bible/1/1co.9.27.KJV “But and if that servant say in his heart, My Lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; the Lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.” Luke 12:45-46 KJV bible.com/bible/1/luk.12.45-46.KJV
Wrong understanding of Grace: "Grace gives you the freedom to sin."
Right understanding of Grace: "Grace gives you the power NOT to sin."
No one can NOT sin, only God. That's why he sent Jesus to die for our sins. Otherwise we are all doomed to damnation and this life is pointless.
@@ReadyToFly24 God helps us not to sin but if we sin we have advocate with the father
Grace or not--we STILL carry sin within our souls.
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When you truly are saved there is no way you can live in sin without convictions.
AMEN.. unless u shut out the holy spirit and grieve him so much that God cant stand u sinning and he’ll kill u and send u up to heaven
@@lilporshe pretty much
lilPorshe yeah that’s actually biblical lol. Forget the passage but Paul talks about that
Yes I also remember the teaching giving the flesh over to sin to be destroyed.
Haleigh Dennis where does Paul talk about that?
Jesus has saved me from suicide multiple times I owe my life to him every day 24/7
Glad he saved you Eva.
Having died more than once and speaking much first hand experience to how Heaven, the Earth, and other realms are setup, I can tell you suicide is no escape from anything and actually makes it far worse on you! Something to never forget. If you die on Earth most ways you usually end up places other than the Earth but in the case of suicide, you end up perfectly alive on Earth like nothing happened other than perhaps notice some small changes to what you know as Earth may be slightly different. You end up on a parallel Earth which is usually nearly identical with the same or n perhaps even worse troubles for you and though you wer successful killing yourself where you were originally, you begin to doubt that because all indications in the alternate Earth is a different course of events where that was not the case at all and in this loop you forever stay alive seemingly stuck on Earth. A situation actually worse than concepts of hell for most people.
@@enigmagroup413 You are one lost soul. No such thing what you are posting, 2Corinthians 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
2Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
2Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
Saved people will be where ever Jesus is, which is at the right hand of the Father.
Me too. Got saved when I was 23. I know that I know that I know if I hadn't got saved when I did, I wouldn't be here. Be dead and in hell. I would had killed myself. So, when I tell people He saved me and He GAVE me life, I say, "Literally!!". 😊
Amen 🙏🏾
You know you are truly saved when you are highly conscious of every sins committed and will always struggle against it.
And never overcome? That is a dismal forecast
That's not biblical. And how do you know when your " highly conscious 🤔 😳 enough??? You can't possibly know all your sins and how do you know your sorry enough LONG enough!! What is you struggle for years then let your guard down on a random tues and get hit by a bus. Oops I know I let my son literally die for you but yeah you unfortunately died while having an impure thought... This What your describing is ANOTHER GOSPEL. The real Godpel is Jesus + nothing ( not how sorry or conscious your are). Or how much you struggle. 😀 My yoke is easy my burden is light Jesus said that. 🙏 hope you get free from legalism, its worse than you understand. Godbless
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You are approaching this with the mindset of a Pharisee or some other kind of legalistic perfectionist who believes they must work it all out on their own maintaining constant awareness about whether they were re "conscious" enough or "sorry enough" to keep walking with God. If we do not a random collision with a Mack truck may well send us to hell. This is not what traditional believers in free will think. It is just a straw man constructed by believers in antinomianism.
When you make a straw man argument, you’re essentially arguing against an IMAGINARY scarecrow. It’s an easy way to make your argument sound infallible-and that’s what makes it a LOGICAL FALLACY.
Regarding Matthew 11:28: Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Did Christ say look at my yoke, study and admire it in the abstract?
No, He said Take my YOKE UPON you.
An ox does not wear a yoke as a decoration. The yoke UNITES Master and Animal together in the common purpose of doing the master's WILL. It is WORK but since the Holy Spirit helps us do it the work is not laborious but LIGHT and brings rest not like the yoke of the Law which Peter said neither he nor his fathers could bear.
When we are saved by faith, we are saved from the debt of our former sins. All of them. SO THAT we can go forward practicing righteousness without an unpaid debt hanging over us.
But being saved from our former sins isn’t the same thing as receiving eternal life in heaven. That comes thru obedience AFTER that debt is paid. Once we’ve established our obedience to God, we are chosen by God to be given to Christ. Those given to Christ in that manner remain with him. Many are called, few are chosen.
When we are saved, we still sin, there are sins we do that we don’t know we do. Thank you LORD for saving us with your blood.
Yes, Amen. Praise God! Praise Jesus!
Nick Shim2018 amen!!!!!! There is two kinds of sinners 1. An unsaved sinner 2. A saved sinner. Jesus doesn’t die over and over and over and over for every sin committed, he died one time for all sins IF we believe in his shed blood that died for our sins we have eternal salvation.
Really good post Nick.
But that's not the same thing as one deliberately walking away from God making a willful decision to no longer serve God.
@@bobbyadkins6983 How can you just walk away from God when he lives in you? Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Ephesians 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. 1Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Corinthians 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. John 10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
John 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
John 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
John 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
John 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
John 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
John 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
John 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. Will not the Good Shepherd leave the 99 to find the lost? if you are saved , you cannot just change your mind & leave.
If you could lose your salvation, YOU WOULD lose your salvation! None of us are strong enough to keep something so precious. (Ephesians 1:13)
EXACTLY!!
Yes!
@Rardd5 Yes...
Amen
Terrance Tisdale “and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to the working of his great might”
Ephesians 1:19
I think it was meant as a closing statement. Like we can’t kept salvation on our own and thank God for it bc it’s His great power at work in us who He saves. At least that was how I interpreted it
In my personal walk with christ, there have been times I have backslid, however, just in those backsliding time when my fleshly spirit did the things that didnt agree and life started to take a turn for the worse, God never gave up on me he sent laborers on the way and put me in circumstances where i had no choice but to turn back to him. Granted it is a growing process because my backsliding was a result of getting sucked in by the lies of the enemy and i fell farther into sin but i didnt originally intend to sin. Each time when he restores me and pulls me back i grow in knowledge of him. To me it reminds me of when God starts a work in you hes gonna finish it.
God bless
Jon Singleton i think possibly i said it wrong i always have asked God back into my life and repented and rededicated my life at those times but I dont think God gives up on his people. However people give up on him and what he says.
Jon Singleton I have followed much of your thread and it appears that you are striving hard to debate with others to prove them wrong because you believe you have it all down, drawn out and put together. Brother, if you want to talk about something Biblical your talking it, it’s that biblical term Pride. To assume your position is dangerous and you should confess this area of your life to Jesus Christ and allow Him to rid you from this.
Even this young woman who gave a testimony of how she walked away from God and was like the prodigal daughter and God pursued her in her backslidden state is the Agape love of God Almighty. I to walked away for sometime, but God never gave up on me. I came back praise God, because He didn’t want me to stay in that backslidden state. God is merciful to us all, and none of us are even worthy enough to deserve this gift of salvation that he offers freely to us. Some of the greatest apostasy that’s running rampant in the church today are self righteous people preaching a message that they themselves aren’t even able to live or abide by. They walk in arrogance and great pride like they have arrived. The fact is, none of us have truly arrived. We are always being changed and transformed to be more like Him. We must be teachable because the moment we stop, Pride takes the lead.
Jenna Montgomery i can relate on the back sliding.
Jenna Montgomery Amen.
Jenna Montgomery when you sin it is always because you intended to do it or it wouldnt be a sin, it would be ignorance
Once saved by Christ, always saved by Christ!
All glory to Him!
Basic doctrine that an alarming number of Christians cannot accept. Let us pray they are saved but just don't know it.
We can Keep Sinning and walking with Satan and STILL remain in the Garden of Eden! Yaay! Satan Loves this doctrine.
@@Emmanuel-ti6ym Do you still sin and thereby walk with Satan? If we say we have no sin the truth is not in us. So unless you stop ALL sin you will be thrown in the lake of fire 🔥. Unless you repent and accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior.
@@gregorylatta8159 Heb 10:26 Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is NO LONGER any sacrifice that will cover these sins. The blood of Jesus will cover unintentional sins as well as intentional sins that are confessed. 1 Peter 2:16 For you are free, yet you are God’s slaves, so don’t use your FREEDOM as an excuse to do evil. Luke 9:62 But Jesus told him, “Anyone who puts a hand to the plow and then LOOKS BACK is not fit for the Kingdom of God. Lot and his family were saved, Lot's wife looked back, she forfeited her salvation. The Purpose of this Doctrine is to Remove the FEAR of God from among the saints. Luke 1:50 He shows mercy from generation to generation to all who fear him. Fear is much more than just reverence or respect but trembling fear. Matt 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather FEAR HIM (BE AFRAID) who can destroy both soul and body in hell. Phil 2:12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed-not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence-continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Remember this doctrine is intended to keep the Saints on Easy Street, Luke Warm and without FEAR of the Most High. Matt 7:14 Because narrow is the gate and DIFFICULT IS THE WAY which leads to life, and there are FEW WHO FIND IT. Peace and Love, brother.
@@Emmanuel-ti6ym Can't disagree with scripture. Read Romans 7 14-25 written to us Gentiles for this dispensation.
When you’re truly saved, you won’t wanna go back. God bless 🙏✌️
AMEN PRAISE OUR AWESOME ALMIGHTY GOD !!!
James 2:24
You see that a person is considered righteous by what they DO and NOT BY FAITH ALONE.
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Best bible passages to refute once saved always saved.
Amen, some people slip though.
@@patriciaulbricht3643 That’s a lie from hell...
“And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.”
Romans 11:6 KJV
@@miketaylor9455 this verse is about the Initial Grace when you are First saved through baptism (which is very clearly stated in the bible, baptism is no work) that you are can not deserve. That is right. But there are many warning verses which respond to the saved christians to keep their ways holy. They could have fallen from Grace when they commit Grave sin. Confession to a priest where ordained by Jesus for the restoration of Grace.
Amen
God has turned me back to himself many times, he never gives up working on me. God bless you for ALL of your videos!
Amen, we seek and we find. We turn away and he reprimands us!!!
And you responded. Some fail to DO so.
Aren't you tired of throwing verses back and forth like a proverbial food fight? Each team embracing their own set of what they say the verses mean? What does the true gospel entail? Is it a once and for all declaration, or a race to be run with all of our heart, soul and strength? The false gospel being preached today is rooted in three fundamental errors: 1) Justification is a one time irrevocable declaration, guaranteeing salvation; 2) Grace is the free gift of salvation where there can be no expectations attached. 3) And salvation is apart from any and all works. These are the errors of Martin Luther which have been adopted by virtually every evangelical church today. This series explains the theological roots of this error and presents the Biblical gospel. If you are so inclined, here it is:
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You sound catholic keep sinning do a hail Mary and all is forgiven
@@monroegivens6914 the first three letters of assume are? No I'm not a catholic, nor is this man, he is speaking truth from the Christian Bible. Confess sins, repent, and accept forgiveness, from Jesus Christ, not Mary! We have to keep confessing, and repenting, but because we can never quit sinning, Jesus gains us forgiveness, by his blood, if we believe and follow him.
I came to the LORD at a young age. I still had a rebellious falling away in my late teens and twenties. Looking back, God's grace was with me every step of the way. He didn't like the sin in my life, but He never gave up on me. I still sin even now, but God's presence is with me every day. He will never leave us and He will never forsake us.
Amen
“I still sin even now” ... it depends on what sin you’re referring to. There are sins that lead to death. If you’re indulging in some form of lust, porn, hatred, stealing, or otherwise carrying God’s name while breaking his commandments, his promise is that you won’t be found guiltless. You must repent of (permanently turn away from, stop doing) those things. Hopefully you just mean you’re grumpy before your first cup of coffee in the morning or something, but if you’re breaking God’s commandments you need to stop right now.
@@joebolling If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8
@@jessepotter365 there’s a vast difference in being without sin, or even never ever sinning once in our entire lives, verses not being perfect but also not continuing on in sin that is in direct contrast to God’s commandments. Which is it for you?
@@jessepotter365 you’re not suggesting a Christian is allowed to break God’s 10 commandments and still call themselves by His name ... are you?
Third commandment says if we carry God’s game in vain we will NOT be found guiltless!
To be found guiltless, we must obey God’s commandments and hold fast to our testimony about Christ, that his blood atoned for our past sins.
Jesus said:"Not everyone who calls me Lord shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but only those who do the will of my father in Heaven".
Continue reading the verse. Later in it he tells the accursed "I NEVER knew you". He NEVER knew them. They didn't lose their salvation. They were never saved to begin with.
@Barry Gaynor, yes. People consider themselves saved and don't do his will. Thus salvation is conditional.
@@KeeperOfThe10 no he was speaking of the Pharisees. People who never accepted Christ but use his name for “image”. What you just said is blasphemy
John 6:40 end of discussion
@@KeeperOfThe10 the only condition that salvation is based on is whether or not someone truly believes. the point of that verse is that there will be people that claim to believe in Jesus but don’t in their hearts. not that ppl have to do good works
Most deceiving thing ever is to think you’re saved when you’re not... May God open eyes and sanctify many through his truth, in Jesus name
Rashadijn2 - Amen 👏🏽
Romans 10: 9, and 10: "When you CONFESS with your mouth, and BELIEVE in your HEART..." You are considered a PART of God's Kingdom--LEGALLY! BUT, we must "Continue" in His word...John 8:31. But EXPERIENTALLY, we STILL must "grow," and "Mature," in the "Spirit." Eph. 4:13. Even Jesus--according to scripture--had to "wax strong (grow) in Spirit." So, WHEN are we "Saved," you ask? The very micro-second we say, and BELIEVE that prayer. From THERE, like scripture SAYS--we must..."CONTINUE." God bless you.
@@raygabrelcik2578 once saved always saved. after a 30 second saving decision, you now have a license to sin to your heart's content cuz hey, you're already saved forever right? riiiiight
Romans 10: 9,10.
Once saved always saved will causes many to be totally lost . To each his own . I will never believe once saved always saved .
Whether you lose your salvation or not, I think it’s wise to live everyday as if your holding onto salvation for dear life! And God knows that I fail everyday, but he also knows I’m trying. God bless everyone!
Michael M. Are you trusting in yourself or in Christ. We’re not our own savior. Christ is. We’re going to sin no matter how hard we try not to but Christ is our advocate
I said "as if you're holding on to salvation for dear life." That's called having the fear of the Lord, which is wise. I didn't say I myself could hold on to Salvation. (As if)
@@TheGreatEscapeTravels i hear you, but i don't think we're supposed to "fear" the Lord as fear is the opposite of faith, and our faith in Christ is what saves us. When the bible says the "fear" of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom it is referring to reverence of the Lord, and when you meditate on that concept it makes more sense, as we are in awe of His creation and His ways, and that kind of fear (reverence) actually brings us closer to God and gaining understanding, where as scared fear is more of a forced obedience, in which God doesn't want; He wants us to want to obey, and to walk in faith. Hope that helps.
James 2:24 :
You see that a person is considered righteous by what they DO and NOT BY FAITH ALONE.
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Best bible passages to refute once saved always saved.
@@patriciaulbricht3643 , Salvation is by God's grace and mercy through Faith. EPHESIANS 2.4-10. So because you have true faith you will produce good works ( fruits) but those good works don't save you, ONLY WHAT JESUS CHRIST DID ON THE CROSS SAVES YOU. ( His grace and mercy). Fake and false faith doesn't produce good works, thus you haven't truly repented and believed in Jesus Christ and His Gospel of salvation. Don't misinterpret JAMES 2 with the Whole of Scripture. James 2 and EPHESIANS 2.4-10 go hand in hand, Scripture interpreting Scripture. Peace.
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@@michellecheriekjv4115 process of elimination: which of these 2 is from false teachers : 1. FAITH + WORKS = CONDITIONAL SECURITY (SALVATION CAN BE LOST) 2. FAITH ALONE + NO NEED GOOD WORKS = ETERNAL SECURITY (ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED)
NOW in heaven, what is Jesus' state of being ...
1. flesh and bones, not flesh and blood
2. flesh and blood
3. not flesh and bones, a spirit
““Write this letter to the angel of the church in Ephesus. This is the message from the one who holds the seven stars in his right hand, the one who walks among the seven gold lampstands: “I know all the things you do. I have seen your hard work and your patient endurance. I know you don’t tolerate evil people. You have examined the claims of those who say they are apostles but are not. You have discovered they are liars. You have patiently suffered for me without quitting. “But I have this complaint against you. You don’t love me or each other as you did at first! Look how far you have fallen! Turn back to me and do the works you did at first. If you don’t repent, I will come and remove your lampstand from its place among the churches. But this is in your favor: You hate the evil deeds of the Nicolaitans, just as I do. “Anyone with ears to hear must listen to the Spirit and understand what he is saying to the churches. To everyone who is victorious I will give fruit from the tree of life in the paradise of God.”
Revelation 2:1-7 NLT
www.bible.com/116/rev.2.1-7.nlt
Me too
@@Jesusbride515 OSAS IS VERY EVIL DOCTORINE. NEVER I COULD IMAGINE THAT SATAN WILL USE THAT FALSE TEACHING
BECAUSE ONLY A FOOL SAY OSAS WITHOUT TAKING ACCOUNT OTHER SIDE LOSING SALVATION
Such an important topic, thank you brother Parr. I gave my life to the Lord at age 15 at a David Wilkerson crusade back in 1971. Since then, I have had times when I allowed myself to be distracted by the things of the world, gone away from the truths of the Word. Behaved in ways I am truly ashamed of. But He has never taken His hand off me, and His grace has allowed me to eventually see that I am His and want nothing more than Him in my life. I am 67 now, and am so thankful He has never stopped loving me. I am His and He is mine. Forever. 🙏
Bro David Wilkerson was against once saved always saved. Jesus bluntly said he'll remove anyone's name from the book of life in Revelation 22:18-19 and we know from the Daniel 12:1, Philippians 4:3 that only people with salvation names are found in the book of life so if they were removed from it that means we can indefinitely lose our salvation. Not to mention verses like in the end times they'll DEPART from the faith which you can only depart if you were once walking in true faith. As well as go about your salvation with fear and trembling why would Jesus say that if it was impossible to lose. Anyways Jesus bluntly saying he'll removed a saved person name from the book of life is the end all of this topic.
@@vivaeuropayeah there was never a once saved. It's a doctrines of demons. Because people will feel like that they can do sinful things and they will allow demons into their life and they will be a slave to sin. Just like the scripture talking about not going back to your former self. Shipwreck a dog going back to its vomit. Stumble in Strong's concordance is loss of salvation in 1st Peter.
Thank God for his mercy and grace. You made it back from a backslidden position. Thank God you did not fall into one of the life taking traps of Satan. You would have been lost. He knows the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Praise the Lord. He will never let you go. Continue to surrender to him, he loves you dearly but he will never take away your free will which is also a demonstration of his love.
@@jeffouellette9946 I’d be careful calling it doctrine of demons and assuming OSAS just makes people feel like they’re ok to compromise in sin, the Holy Spirit will let you know and convict you. I am genuinely curious though if you can lose salvation what is the line you can’t cross? The parable of the prodigal son is a great parable that shows that even if we turn away for a time he is always there to welcome us back into fellowship with him with open arms. It’s not like if you start falling back into your old sinful habits and attitudes for a time, that Gods grace and mercy doesn’t still cover you. He will chastise and discipline his children when they’re in disobedience but that’s evidence that we are truly his children, I think that’s what happens when “a dog goes back to its vomit” you get chastised but you don’t lose salvation if you genuinely have saving faith in Jesus Christ. His blood paid for past present and future sins in the eternal sense but he does not excuse us from the consequence of sin in this life when we slip up (which we will). I just don’t think it lines up with scripture that you can lose salvation even with the common anti OSAS verses people try to use like Hebrews 6:6. We need to rightly divide the word of truth and interpret the more difficult passages in context carefully and in light of the other plain truths about salvation that are in the Bible, after all the Bible has no contradictions but with the common interpretation of Hebrews 6:6 it would appear to contradict the prodigal son parable. I’m open to admitting if I am wrong and want to seek the genuine truth of God but I do truly believe OSAS after praying for the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth on this contentious topic and I feel like he has led me towards OSAS every time I go to prayer about it. God bless my brother in Christ I know this was an old comment but I’d love to see your response if you do see this! 🙏
Please read...
Colo 1:21-23
Rev 3:5
1 Tim 4:1
1 Tim 6:10
Once saved, always saved… “IF” you stay saved!
(Remember):
1) Salvation is a free gift… (Meaning YOU can receive it or YOU can reject it)
2) God doesn’t make you stay with him if you don’t want to. He gave us the choice.
3) “FALL AWAY from the faith”… “to him that OVERCOME”...”ERRED from the faith”...
You can only fall away “FROM”...err “FROM” it if you were “IN” it (the Faith) initially.
4) The epistles were written to the CHURCH...Christians.
I agree 100% The brother Parr did a good job on this video for the most part presenting his view point but I think it was a huge miss that he did not discuss scriptures like these that so clearly challenge the Once Saved Always Saved theology. I would also include Hebrews 6:4-6
You can lose blessings and rewards by living a back-slidden life and come under God's discipline and conviction of sin but you won't lose your salvation. I should know I got saved in 1972 and have had many ups and downs but I look for the Lord's appearing everyday.
Good brother, "Phillip." Living a "back-slidden" life is very dangerous, you give "demons" open access into every area of your life. Why, if one cannot "fall-away" do we see those words in scripture? My friend, read CLOSELY the following verses, and then--ask the LORD for understanding--not MINE--but HIS. Gal.3:1-5; Gal.5:7; Gal.4:8,9; Luke 8:13b; Matt.26:31b; Mark 4:15; Luke 14:34; 2 Thess.3:6-15; 1Tim.1: 3-11; 1Tim.4:1; 1Tim.5:15; Also, chapter 6:10b. Check out Luke 9:62. "Putting your HAND to the plow refers to the "WORK" we do as believers! 2 Pet.2"20-22 is extremely clear in context. Also, 2 Pet.2:15. The following is a clear-cut, sober warning: Heb.2:1-3. And of course, Heb.6: 4-6, which is taken OUT if its obvious context by some Christians. And YES--Heb.7:27 says that "Christ died ONCE for ALL..." But that is NOT implying one cannot "fall." There are quite a few MORE, good brother, but tell me, why is there actually more WARNINGS in scripture than "pats on the back?" God TELLS us, "Be SOBER-MINED and...WATCH." Watch WHAT? It's the same thing as "take heed...stand...lest you FALL." Some would say it makes it sound as if God is impersonal--I beg to differ! He LOVES us enough to WARN us what can happen if we allow "laodicia" to get the better--or should I say--WORST of us. Pray for wisdom, my friend, for she is greater than "fine jewels." God bless you.
Edward Russell that’s false doctrine
Edward Russell 1 Corinthians 5:1-5 don’t add to perfection
@Edward Russell What you have written is not true about hell burst open. I didn't mention I have been doing the work of an evangelist for over 45 yrs. either planting seeds or leading people to Jesus. Plus you need to read Romans Ch. 7:15-25 and read about the Apostle Paul's struggles. Also my spiritual nature has never sinned but my flesh does everyday 1 John 1:10. I am taking only my spiritual to Heaven w/ me. P.S. All true believers have this dual nature of 100% Holy Spirit and 100% Flesh; the flesh sinful nature will die at our redemption thru death or rapture.
@@earthsiege77 AMEN TO THAT BROTHER!
In waiting for our NEW Glorified bodies, MARANATHA!
I use to do meth and I was addicted to alcohol and I almost died in my sins, I seen different kinds demons with my own eyes scared me to death and I knew in my spirit I was heading for hell for sure I cried out to God like Jonah and he had Mercy on me, I wouldn't want to test this once saved always saved thing to the end.... If I had not cried out to the Lord im convinced I would be in a place to horrible to imagine.. Whoever digs a pit will fall into it Proverbs 25:27
Amen.
Apostle Paul
Preach Apostle Paul. God bless brother🙏🏾
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@@visit_vaticancatholic_dot_com Did you just really comment on a BIBLE BASED VIDEO to go follow this cult you are promoting????? NO. It is nowhere near authentic Christianity. Catholicism is a cult and works-salvation based and they want you pray to saints which is NOT BIBLICAL when you can pray to Jesus yourself. Please don't promote that heresy and open your eyes! REPENT OF YOUR SINS JESUS IS COMING.
@@labae8728 Your anti-Catholic sentiments are quite wrong and you need to get your facts right. If you really believe in praying to Jesus for yourself (in the way you seem to be trying to articulate, i.e. excluding intercessors), then logically you would have to condemn "Christians" for asking their fellow "Christians" to pray for them, in order to be consistent. Catholics do pray to Jesus directly, by the way. You need to stop all the anti-Catholic garbage and make consulting this information your number one priority. Your version of Christianity is a counterfeit, and is unhistorical and unbiblical. The Catholic Church is the original Church and you need to belong to it for eternal salvation. Before you dismiss this information by saying you only stick with the Bible, you should know that the very term "Bible" as applied to the books of the Old and New Testaments, comes from St. John Chrysostom, who was a fourth century Catholic bishop. This fact was acknowledged by Protestant scholar, F.F. Bruce. You can see more about this in the video, The First Use of The Bible: th-cam.com/video/ly137br9ctY/w-d-xo.html
Also, the Catholic Church decided what books were to be in the Bible, so you don't even have a Bible without the Catholic Church. The Bible did not fall out of the sky intact. It was put together by the Catholic Church, which is the Church Jesus established (Matthew 16:18-19). You can't be a follower of Jesus unless you accept all of His teaching and hear His Church. That only happens in the traditional Catholic faith. Additionally, if you're one to label the Catholic use of statues as idolatrous, then your problem would be with God and the Bible, because God specifically commands the making of religious statues. The Bible does not condemn the use of true religious statues and images. See Exodus 25:17-19 below (and keep in mind that cherubim are angels):
And thou shalt make a mercy seat pure gold: two cubits and a half the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof. And thou shalt make two cherubims gold, beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat. And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof.
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I got saved when I was 11. To avoid writing out my whole testimony, I will simply say that I stayed from God in my early 20s, and for all intents and purposes, lost my faith. It was to the point where I was angry with God, and tried MULTIPLE times to complete leave the faith. But GOD, through what I can only believe is the power of the Holy Spirit kept bringing me back. Kept pricking my heart and wouldn't let me go
”I am sure of this, that he who started a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.“
Philippians 1:6 CSB
To God be the glory!
Yes, that is true, and don't let anyone deceive you otherwise. There are many scriptures that show God's power in saving and "keeping" those whom He saves.
Psalm 37:28, "For the Lord loves judgment, and forsakes not His saints; they are preserved forever..." He Himself "preserves" them.
Psalm 65:4, "Blessed is the individual whom YOU CHOOSE, and CAUSE TO APPROACH YOU, that he may dwell in Your courts (implying forever)..."
If it was all up to us to keep our salvation, then we would be our own saviors, and would have no need of the Holy Spirit. He "seals" us by His Spirit "UNTO the day of salvation," not until we decide to walk away. How could He call any of us His "elect" if we "could" forsake Him?
Notice what Jesus said about His elect in Matt. 24:24, "For there shall arise false Christs (false anointed ones -- the charlatans always claim to operate in the "anointing"), and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders (slaying in the spirit? laughing uncontrollably? false gifts of the Spirit? fake casting out demons? etc.); insomuch that, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, they shall deceive the VERY ELECT." This is a good example that Jesus will keep His elect from being deceived to the point of apostasy.
Is it merely "our" will involved? John Baptist was filled with the Spirit while a fetus in his mother's womb. He didn't ask God first, nor did God ask him. His mission to pave the way for YHWH Messiah was prophesied by Isaiah about 700 years before his birth. John could no more apostatize from God and not complete his mission than the moon could decide to leave its orbit around the earth. Again, Isaiah prophesied of a coming king of the Medo-Persians named Cyrus, who he said would issue the decree to rebuild Jerusalem and the Temple, whom God called His "son" (He wasn't the Son of God, of course, but obedient to Him as a son in what God had raised him up to do for Him). But he wrote this prophecy over 200 years before his birth. Cyrus was made by God for this purpose, just like He raised up the evil Pharaoh to show His wonders in Egypt. But does God's will for us mean that we have no choice? Nope. Both wills are involved, which is a conundrum that no man can fully parse. All the warnings of scripture against sin, lethargy, apostasy, etc., only hit bone with God's elect. Those whom Jesus described as seed sown by the wayside, or on rocky ground, or among thorns, or tares, will not fully heed the warnings and repent.
Lastly, as you read Jesus' final prayer for His 11 apostles in John 17, you will find that He said that He "kept" them. Compare those verses with John 6:39, the wording is identical. He "keeps" ALL that the Father has given Him, and will lose "NONE" (KJV says "nothing", but the Greek word is "me" [pronounced "may"], which means that all implications are ruled out, in other words, it is "impossible" for Jesus to lose even one of those the Father had already given Him before the foundation of the world, just as it was impossible for Him to have lost the 11 apostles, or Paul, or John Baptist, or Moses, or Elijah, or David. The only reason He lost Judas, whom He described early on as a "devil", was because his betrayal was prophesied in the scriptures hundreds of years before he was born. Jesus said of his betrayal, "that the scripture might be fulfilled." Well, John 6:39 is also a scripture that must be fulfilled -- He will lose NONE.
Rejoice in His salvation!
I'm sitting here..reading all of the comments. Some I've even made myself. And I'm thinking, I'm not judging....just pondering. Malachi 3:16 "Then those who feared the LORD talked with each other, and the LORD
listened and heard. A scroll of remembrance was written in his presence
concerning those who feared the LORD and honored his name.".................The Lord is listening to all of us right now. We should be glorifying Him and edifying each other. As far a OSAS....please do not neglect such a beautiful gift He died to give us. We do have an enemy who is out to steal our gift. He is the master deceiver. 1 Corinthians 10:12 "
Therefore let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he fall." Stay in the Word..keep close to the Lord and do everything He tells you to do. Time is coming to a close.
Love this ❤️❤️
Wonderful words 🎚🙌🏻. Abide in the vine Christ Jesus. I know just how weak and powerless I am. And my strength is Only in the Lord. I am a sheep But Mighty is the LORD my Shepherd 🎚🙌🏻🙏
Amen that is beautiful !
Jesus died for past sins ONLY. Romans 3:25.
@@jeffouellette9946 then whom will atone for your sins ?
I have been in the faith for over 10 years. My experience has been: the more I learn, the more questions I have. All in all, I hope God will humor me cause we need to talk. Lol
Questions are a good thing friend!
My grandfather used to tell me that someone who doesn't have questions is someone who doesn't care to know.
James 2:24
You see that a Person is considered righteous by what they DO and NOT BY FAITH ALONE.
th-cam.com/video/vJo1OZcLtlA/w-d-xo.html
Best bible passage to refute once saved always saved.
This channel will solve your questions.
Love it! :)
I am not sure the life is one if no questions. Look at Job for example.
@@patriciaulbricht3643 Don't just read scripture study it and learn what it says about salvation. Watch both these videos and visit the main channel for the rest of the bible. th-cam.com/video/WTr76C2sxIM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/3GnK0xndBkA/w-d-xo.html
To some Christ will say I NEVER KNEW YOU. he isn't going to say I ONCE KNEW YOU BUT NOW I DONT
Timothy Wayne correct!!
I agree with you but it sure is hard to figure out people such as Charles Templeton or Joshua Harris.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Now I could be wrong but to me the people that were able to cast out devils and stuff like that had to be close to God, living for God , and most likely saved. I don't believe that God is going to give that kind of power to just anybody.
Yes. Those are the ones who were never saved in the first place. The best example of such a person is Judas. Who was given the power to perform miracles. But he was never saved. Not to mention John writes that those who turn from the faith, never had it to begin with. If they were one of us, they'd stay with us, but since they aren't one of us, turned away. Not word for word but that's basically what he wrote. This is irrefutable proof that you can't lose salvation. If you "lose it", that means you never had it.
@@xepiloguex You just contradicted in that statement. It all means God is sovereign to give power to whomever He sees fit and that is amazing. Some shall ask and be given. And somewhere there is a story of disciples of some sort (70 something) who where sent somewhere to cast demons out and when they came back feeling all pumped up and pampered by the HS, the Lord said chill out buddies don't let this stuff get to your head. We have to remember we are in a longeated Spiritual warfare as opposed to being saved by daily battles as such.
On another thing the fact you are uncertain is good but try not to go by your beliefs, this is the kind of thing you pray for for deeper understanding and He shall reveal. Hesitate not, to ask about anything. Because our self belief will lead to denying the Power of God and live in the faulty essence of intellectualism.
Thanks!
If u read your Bible, it literally said that “he who is in the world, is an enemy of God” so just bc you’ve accepted Christ into ur life doesn’t mean it’s ok to go ahead and go back to ur sinful ways.
Stherly M .
Hebrews 4:13 And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.
2 Corinthians 5:10 For WE must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether GOOD or EVIL.
And all of us go back to our sinful ways because we’re not sinless😂
“Therefore, dear brothers and sisters, you have no obligation to do what your sinful nature urges you to do. For if you live by its dictates, you will die. But if through the power of the Spirit you put to death the deeds of your sinful nature, you will live.”
Romans 8:12-13
If you are a true believer in Jesus Christ you would try to keep his commandments and don’t keep sinning.
Stherly M . Notice in that verse Paul says through the power of your spirit. Proving it’s at war. We’re in the flesh. Our spirit is inside us. Our soul goes to heaven not body
We can’t put sinful desires away if we’re still in our sinful state. That’s why Jesus died for us to redeem us.
All sin is paid for at the cross.
Holy living is great but not for salvation. Jesus gave us salvation that’s why it’s a gift of God.
I hope this helps.
Court JM yeah we’re not perfect but at least try to change your ways, it was hard for me at first but it worked.
Stherly M .
Absolutely. We can try. If I can go one day without sinning, that would be by God’s power😂. Even the slightest sins are sins.
Christ saved us at the cross. I do believe in obedience but obedience is for rewards, not salvation
I see what you’re saying desiring to obey but our flesh is dead to submission
I believe that we can be 100% sure we are saved. God does not want us to doubt our salvation. Praise the Lord!
Amen
Many scriptures show us that OSAS is not biblical. The parable of the prodigal son proves OSAS is not biblical.
@Andrew West What statement are you referring to?
@Andrew West No that statement is not in the bible, I am talking about the false doctrine that teaches that once a person is born again/saved, they can never lose their salvation, no matter what. That is the false doctrine of OSAS.
@Andrew West As I said earlier. The parable of the prodigal son says you are incorrect.
Wow Allen. This is awesome. I love how you ended the video, we must focus more on our purpose here than arguing about different beliefs. You couldn't have said it any better. God bless you brother.
Thanks so much for watching and for your comment Stephan van der Westhuizen! God bless,
@@thebeatagp I would like to discuss this OSAS teaching with you brother
@@thebeatagp For our time on earth, God gave us free will ! If you chose to leave, he will not force to stay !
@@thebeatagp most people only look at the extremes (getting saved every day, or never losing your salvation) ! the truth is you can never lose it, but you can give it away by openly denying the Lord Jesus Christ, Hebrews 6 4-6 clearly indicates this, also Matthew 4:37 ! But the mark of Christian maturity, where you can not be restored is a high bar, also in Hebrews 6 4-6 !
Sir thank you. You have given me comfort. My son 37 years old was killed 3 weeks ago. He was saved thru faith when he was a teenager. This has been un-bearable. Thank you so much!
I so sorry for your loss. Lord please comfort Ava and her family during this time. Lift them up and shine your warm light upon them. There is great comfort in the fact that your son knew our great Lord and that you will be with him again one day 💛🙏
No one is judged until Jesus returns. The dead are asleep according to the Bible. God doesn't judge those who never knew his name. I can't remember what verse this was.
Sorry for your loss. Please stop listening to this false teacher.
Try School for Prophets with Atila, Bible flock box, and Justin Pestlin.
They break the down the Bible word for word. School for prophets requested a debate with Allen Parr and he refused. Why? Because he knows he'll be shut down!
He's another feel good teacher.
The key is to be obedient to God no matter what happens in your life. Trials help us to get closer to God.
Keep the faith...
@@annaswanson176 SDA?
Bible Truth is my religion. I study my Bible.
@@annaswanson176 you cannot say Allen is a false teacher..... you may disagree with some of his understanding, but saying he's a false teacher is an absolute lie..... and lying is a sin.....
you shouldn't be spreading lies about a brother in Christ
Just coming across this video. You said in the beginning that you don’t want nobody to say what they believe but in the 3rd scripture you yourself said “this is why I believe you can’t lose your salvation “. Question though, why does Paul always say that you must endure till the end to be saved? God gives you free will. He won’t make you stay somewhere you don’t want to be. You have to pay attention to words. There are a lot of “ifs” when it comes to your salvation in scripture.
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@@Jesusgirl00 You are correct in terms of the tribulation. But what do you mean by "tribulation saints?"
@@Jesusgirl00 Oh I see, but believers actually don't go through the tribulation. That's only unbelievers.
@@Jesusgirl00 it doesn't say this was to the tribulation saints
Endure means we will go through tribulations and be prosecuted as Christians, we must endure to the end. Doesn’t mean we must be sinless until the end, God says we are liars if we claim to be sinless, everyone sins.
We are saved by grace through faith Ephesians 2:8
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Hebrews 10:26-31 NKJV
Hebrews 6:4-6
King James Version
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
The Sin (For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins) that Hebrews is referring to is rejecting the Gospel of Salvation that is the only Sin that can not be forgiven. For rejecting Christ is the unforgivable Sin. So many times people use Hebrews wrongly to try to place people back under the law.
When you hear the Gospel and accept its truth you are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, and are saved. Therefore you can not fall away. this verse obliterates the "You can lose you salvation argument", because first it says "IMPOSSABLE", second it says if you reject that Gospel you can not earn your way thus reiterating all the scripture that confirms security. Every time you go back to the Law you are in fact crucifying' Christ all over again ignoring John 19:28-30 King James Version
30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. IT IS FINISHED, not its finished but, or its only slightly finished.
in Romans 6:9-10, KJV
"Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin ONCE: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God."
Gospel
Period
is this the vic firth that makes drum sticks??
This verse is referring to unbelievers - not believers.
@@josephmiller1224 No. actually this verse is addressing the hebrews that came to believe that Yeshua was their messiah and joined the Christians and followed for awhile, but turned away and went back to Judaism and left grace and lived back under the law, and trampled the son of Gods sacrifice on the cross as a common thing and believed the animal sacrifices in the temple was more value that Yeshua's blood on the cross!
Not all first century Christians were saved, even though they did taste the Holy Spirit.
This is such an encouraging message I’ve been a Christian for almost 10 years and am sometimes disappointed with the areas of my life that aren’t in-line with God, but then I remind myself at least I’m not where I was before, and that highlights all the things the lord has help me overcome or at least improve on.
Christ be with you
its false
Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
*For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die:* but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. (Rom 8:12-13)
St Paul is speaking to people who are no longer debtors telling them it the return to sin they will die
God bless you
Michael, you’re absolutely right. Our spirit is righteous with God, but we still have these corrupt physical bodies, and will fall short from time to time. Some sins are more easily put behind us than others. Physically, we don’t just “step over a log” into perfection. 👍
@@MrKev1664 Their flesh will die surely but if saved their spirit will live forever with Jesus.
@@winterpatriot1429 100 percent correct.
@@gregorylatta8159
Christ be with you
It’s a pretty dumb response
Everyone’s flesh dies, there would be no point in these words.
You are trying to deny what St Paul is teaching.
Talk about twisting his word to your own destruction. (2 Peter 3:15-16)
Come to Christ
I am saved!
I am being save!
I will be save!
Yes, as long as you "continue in HIS word..." John 8:31.
Ray Gsbrelcik false doctrine
Ray Gsbrelcik unless you mean Jesus
There are few saved because many refuse to BELIEVE in Jesus the Christ for Eternal Life.
The way that leads to life is narrow (Matt. 7:13-14). Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but by Him (John 14:6). Self-righteous people are on the wrong path. They are on the broad way that leads to destruction (Matt. 7:13). Jesus came to save those who know that they are sick and lost and in absolute need of His deliverance (Matt. 9:12-13; Mark 2:17; Luke 5:31-32; 18:9-14). Of course, that is all of us, all of mankind.
However, some people are unwilling to own up to the truth. The cross of Christ is a stumbling block to those who think that they are good enough to deserve kingdom entrance. Those who throughout the course of their lives reject the free gift of salvation and refuse to trust in Christ alone will find out that in reality they are sinners, those who “practice lawlessness” (Matt. 7:23). Only then it will be too late.
What would you say if you appeared before God and He said, “Why should I let you into My kingdom?” Matthew 7:22 is the wrong answer. The right answer is, “Lord, I am an unworthy sinner who has placed his complete trust upon what Jesus did for me upon the cross, and He promised that whoever believes in Him has eternal life” (Luke 18:13-14; John 3:16; Rom. 4:5; Eph. 2:8-9; Titus 3:5).May we call people to do the will of God so that they can obtain entrance into the kingdom of God. Those who place their trust wholly in Jesus Christ have done the will of the Father and have already passed from death to life (John 5:24) and will not come into judgment regarding their eternal destiny (John 3:18).
Shalom
Ron Aller that’s absolutely right I was once spiritually blinded by religion walking in the flesh but now I walk in the spirit and I owe it all to God saved by grace through faith
I think as long as we dont PRACTICE SIN , and if we try and do our best to serve him , and pray and have a relationship with God , asking forgiveness daily , then we are saved
This tells me that you understood what the scriptures have always taught. It seems to me that if a person reads the scriptures BEFORE hearing about the doctrine of Once Saved Always Saved, then this ridiculous idea never enters into their mind. That should tell us something.
@Melony Kilby Wrong. That's dangerously close to salvation by works, which we know from Ephesians 2:8-9 is not Scriptural. Salvation is by faith and faith alone. If believers could lose their salvation simply by sinning again, then we would constantly be losing our salvation and needing to regain it. Faith in Christ is the only way to reach salvation, and conversely renouncing that faith is the only way a believer can lose his/her salvation.
HotWax93 you cannot lose your salvation by simply sinning again. You can lose your salvation by willfully sinning. This is the real truth on the once saved always saved doctrine. th-cam.com/video/2W28zs_0ZX0/w-d-xo.html
HotWax93 you do have to do your part, however, and truly repent.
Melony you are RIGHT.. The word is Practice. We all sin but if WE Practice Sin WE become a SINNER.
9/17/2017 God changed my heart forever and delivered me in one night. That night He delivered me from a bad cocaine addiction, pornography, a foul tongue, alcohol addiction and even cigarettes. At night I feel and hear demonic forces in my home and over my body. I anoint my head with oil and drop to my knees and purge myself from any "willing" or "hidden" faults. Then I go to war with the Kingdom of Darkness.
If you "lost" your salvation then you was a just another one of the many "false" convert. True converts by the mercy and grace of God crawled out of the snares of death, disease, destruction, desolation and damnation and once given a taste of salvation, we would rather die than to give it up and turn back to the old man like a pig goes to his slop.
2 Cor. 5:17
God Bless,
Brother Zachariah Isaiah
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
2 Peter 2:20-22 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/2pe.2.20-22.KJV
You explained well bro. God bless you. two thumbs up!
As a pastor who once was miles from God and knowing I was not covered by His mighty grace any longer, I believe with such an important doctrine where people’s eternal security rests, the topic needs much study to support such a stand. I appreciate your efforts here to help other believers.
For the record, I don’t believe that God throws us out but rather humankind has free will. So if someone decides to reject Christianity years later and live a satanic life or just godless existence, then why would this person deserve to live with Jesus in heaven when he clearly didn’t want to live with Him here?!
I think in order to decide upon and to preach a doctrine, you need firstly not to find scriptures that support your view especially if the are plenty of scriptures saying the opposite.
I would like to hear you overcome the many parables, warnings and teachings all through the Bible before we disregard and ignore clear teachings in the word. Especially when we are warned not to preach a foreign gospel or add to the word.
Here are just a few;
1. 10 virgins, 5 that don’t make it and yet all are called and waiting
2. Unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit where there is no forgiveness. Why would you need this if not saved.
3. Parable of talents, 1 slothful servant of God
4. Rebukes to seven churches, return or have your lamp stand put out
5. Matt 18 dealing with conflict in the church, last move to put the person outside under Satans control so that they maybe saved
6. Tasting of the heavenly gifts and partaken in the Holy Spirit but falling away there is no forgiveness of their sin
7. Rev 12 leave the out Court worshipers
8. Prodigal son, was he restored if he stayed in the pig pen of life?
There’s plenty more. What are your thoughts?
Pastor Nathan i agree with you
Amen!
Yes I agree with you, people need to speak IN CONTEXT the scriptures. Point is God keeps us as long as long as we want to be kept!
Luke 2: 62- Noone who puts his hands to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God.
Thats just one scripture going against what he said. People please study and know the Bible for yourselves.
No hate and evil towards this brother but at the end of the day. We have to stay in line with the grace God has given unto us. Apply the principals of the Bible.
When I backslid, if I would have died in my sin I would have gone to hell, its as simple as that. God's grace kept me alive to allow me to come back to Him. But many dont get that chance. Long story short. Know the Bible for yourselves people!
Please. You said at the end of your comment that there are plenty more where those came from. I'd be interested in seeing them.
So far, none of these you have listed say anything about anyone losing salvation after being in Christ while being used in context.
Of course if you separate them from context and study them as stand alone verses, then yes. I guess you can make the argument that it's possible to lose salvation if you twist the meaning to fit a certain view.
But in context, none of these support losing salvation.
Study scripture as a whole. Not as individual verses.
Pick one from your list and let's discuss it with scriptural support.
@@djohnson3093
"But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die."
Ezekiel 18:24 KJV
Word of God! ✨ It's said clearly. It clearly says that the "righteous" (who are the ones that are justified) can lose everything that they had done if they turn away from their righteousness... All of their righteousness won't be even mentioned. A righteous can fall and lose salvation.
Scripture teaches of a great falling away. And some would depart the faith.
Marcus Elliott Sr THANK YOU. And their excuse is that they were never saved, which makes no sense.
@@AfroCentauri Falling away does not some how say they went to hell.
Bob Smith
Satan appears as an angel of light, Bob:
(2 Cor.11:14)
““And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”
But they were never really of us He says.
This is the work of a satan....To divide us as a followers of jesus
I think we gotta define what it means to be “truly” saved and “truly” Christian
Acts 16:30-31
Christ be with you
Jesus does that for us
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. (John 13:34-35)
Act 16:30-31 is not what it means to be Christian
It is mere the first step.
then we must learn about his teaching
And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.
And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway. (Acts 16:32-33)
Anyone who tells you a Gospel that does not tell us we must abide in this doctrine of Christ is a partaker of Evil.
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. (2 John 9-11)
(Please read the rest of 2 John to see this is the doctrine being talked of )
God bless you
@faith grace
Christ be with you
So you think Jesus is wrong.
Romans 4 is referring to works of the law, circumcision, animal sacrifice, cleansing rituals, holy days and dietary requirements not Good works.
It appears most Protestant so not know what faith is.
Abraham's promise came through faith (Rom 4:13) but is was kept because he obeyed God ( Gen 26:4-5)
If you read more than the proof text you would see that faith must establish the Law (Rom 3:31)
I think you should look at what faith in Jesus Christ means to you.
I would also look at the gospel you follow as it sound like it does not contain the doctrine of Christ, and that would make it evil ( 2 John 9-11)
Please read more than just proof texts and find the true Gospel.
God bless you
Being saved is to simply give your mind body and soul to God to do that you must know the truth about his word the correct revelation and he has to give it to us we can’t get it just by reading the Bible he has to reveal it to us
@@johnward2650 I agree. I just think we have been conditioned by modern church for us to stop at just that statement and our actions don’t necessarily follow. And based off of this video that clear distinction was not truly made.
I was saved several years ago. Easily the greatest moment of my life. I felt instantly transformed and different. The lord instilled in me something I never really had before, discernment. I still struggle with sin to this day. Mostly because I was a new Christian and was fairly ignorant of scripture or was fed a false gospel at times. But never once did I feel unsaved or condemned. But when I did commit a sin I felt something I never felt before which was guilt and remorse over what I had done. I look forward to the day I get to stand face to face with Jesus and rejoice in heaven with other believers.
This video contains false teaching, so don’t be deceived.
Like what?@@mytestimonytojesuschrist
Again, I agree with you 100%. I would add that if a person thought he or she was saved then rejects God later in their lives, then I would have to question their salvation in the first place. But I believe rejecting God and backsliding are two different things. We can’t make the judgement of a persons salvation because we can’t see into a persons heart, their salvation or lack of salvation is between them and God.
And this is my dilemma! I posted a comment about this but it was a lot longer than yours lol
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Rejecting Christ is by unsaved people but backsliding is by a Christian. However the word backsliding/backslide is not found in the New Testamant.
@@waynenorumu5485
It doesn’t matter if backsliding is in the Bible or not, it is the concept or idea. The Trinity isn’t in the Bible either but most all Christians believe in the concept/doctrine.
How can u determine that.people leave there faith all the time.
This was sooooo uplifting !!! I'm crying ! Thank you for doing these important videos! I love how you provide proof thru scripture ! I will never lose my salvation ! God Bless You sir!
His true followers will never lose their salvation, simply because He dwells in us and He will never leave us or forsake us! Nothing can separate us from the love of God! Only His sheep know His voice! Hallelujah! 🙌🏽🥰
Hate to burst your bubble, but he would forsake you if you forsake him. You can separate yourself from God, but cannot separate him from you. The scripture says so.
However, you are right. "...True followers will never lose their salvation..." because in order to demonstrate that your faith is genuine, we have to do good works. As long as we do both, in accordance with his will, we will -always- be saved.
God will always be with us. However, he may not SAVE us. Those are two distinctive issues. God is with the person shouting at the Cashier @ Walmart. However, he likely ALSO is with that cashier. The person shouting at the cashier isn't doing a good work. So, thus, her mistake if repeated without repentance, she is not doing good works continually. However, God is still with you. You just can't feel his presence/ the feeling of BEING saved.
Still, Christ be with you!
@@rjsuvakjr Yes that’s exactly right Brother!
Jesus came for my narcissistic sister, she followed Him, but not nearly long enough for Him to change her, she went right back into the world and then married a woman. She tries to say that Jesus brought her a wife. 🤮
@@stephaniedekinger2463 I understand the feeling but remember Christ's example of 'Judge lest you be Judged'. You judge your sister for her sin, then you must judge yourself on your own. Remember God has a plan for you and for your sister. She can rebel but she will always serve God's will in one form or another. So, by judging her, you judge God's judgement. You can separate yourself from that behavior and use it as an example of what not to do. However, you should not judge them or their relationship with God. The same goes for all non-believers. Instead of damning, or holding people in contempt, try to build a bridge. Otherwise, you are going to be separating yourself from god. A high horse is not a good work.
@@rjsuvakjr Jesus chose me on June 7, 2018. He has given me permission to judge righteously, He anointed me to call out her sin. My sister is a narcissist sociopath. Jesus told me to stay away from the narcissistic family and He also said if one of them dies, let the dead bury their dead and keep following me. She is at the top of my list when I pray for my enemies. She has tried several times to physically kill me, but Jesus had a plan for me.
@@stephaniedekinger2463 He gave you the ability to discuss it, but he didn't make you judge jury and executioner of her judgement. You say she tried to physically kill you, but you're mis-applying that verse. The verse means to serve God. You can leave that family behind and focus on God.
That is your religious duty. However, nowhere does that verse say anyone is fit to judge anyone. So, back to my comment, the only person(s) fit to judge the sins of another being is the Father & the Son. Nobody else has that right. God chose you to speak his word, but not to judge others. Condemning others before their judgement only adds sin to your own list. The meaning I'm getting at is described in Matthew 7.
You are not perfect, so you are to discuss sinful nature, and provide constructive feedback. However, you cannot condemn people before they are truly condemned. Repentance is a concept we only partially understand. Divine Salvation plays a role in it, and we have to understand we didn't set the rules for salvation. God did.
You must forgive your sister and your family. Forgiveness doesn't mean you forget, but it means you need to let go of the anger and resentment. That pulls you away from God. Just reading your comments, I can feel that raw anger and rage. You have to let yourself heal, but you also cannot condemn them. At some point, they will haver to atone for their sins (either on this Earth or in the Nether).
I think part of the problem that leads to the controversy is seeing our salvation as something that is already complete rather than that we are "being saved". We can't lose something that is not complete and by the same token we can't fully have it until it is complete. In fact, salvation really has to do with being "made whole" rather than an idea of being "rescued from hell". He who endures to the end will be saved. Certainly by definition the "elect" are secure and the Lord knows those who are his.
I hear Allan Parr. I see Denzel Washington. Lol
Rightttt LoL
Same.
lol
It's so TRUE ! I thought I was the only one to think that. :D
Thankyou! I always knew there was something but it never hit me until now haha
The question really is, have you been born again?
If you HAVE, you cannot lose your salvation.
You can't "lose it" in the sense of having it taken but you certainly have the freedom to walk away"
try a book, by David Pawson...OSAS? where he tries to demonstrate, through the Bible, how someone can loose their salvation....
“I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes[a] so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8 This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.
@Jesus is My Greatest Friend To be honest I’m just very confused. On TH-cam I’ve seen that many people have had rapture dreams and in those dreams they got left behind. Now it seems like many of them had to repent for certain things but it seemed like they were godly people who didn’t really realize the sins that were going on. But I just get confused because it’s like does that mean they were never saved in the first place?!??!?!?! Because if you get left behind weren’t you never saved???
@Jesus is My Greatest Friend Im just not ready and I know we’re running out of time. I’ve felt pretty much nothing. Yeah yeah ik we don’t go off of feelings but it’s just annoying because I’ve never felt Gods presence or the Holy Spirit. It’s been a couple days since I’ve seriously decided to have a better relationship with God so I’m going to give it some time. It would be great if you could pray for me and let me know any suggestions:)
““Son of man, tell your people: ‘The good things people did in the past will not save them if they become bad and begin to sin. In the same way the bad things people did in the past will not destroy them if they turn from their evil. So remember, the good things people did in the past will not save them if they begin to sin.’”
Ezekiel 33:12 ERV
Jerty Markt this man Shirley knows nothing of predestination!! God chose his own church before the foundation of the earth to conform to the image of his son!
I don't believe quoting Ezekiel 33:13 in response to this is appropriate because the eternal security bro. Allen speaks of is through Jesus Christ... Jesus had not died for us yet
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Revelation 22:14-15 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/rev.22.14-15.KJV
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1 John 3:23 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/1jn.3.23.KJV
Of course good deeds will not save those who begin to sin: good deeds will not save anyone. Only Jesus Saves.
I once used to believe in "Eternal security" or the "once saved always saved" doctrine, but the more I studied the scriptures the more i realised this wasn't the case, I realised how difficult it was to continue holding on to that doctrine, I do believe that a Christian can lose his/her salvation through apostasy and I think that worldliness and continual sin can eventually cause a Christian to turn their back on God and that's what I believe Paul refers to when talking about the "falling away" in Hebrews 6:6 and what Peter talks about in 2 Peter 2:20-22,
we have been clearly warned in scriptures about this matter.
Yes, I agree. You have the correct understanding. Salvation is something we must strive to hold on to daily by freewill cooperation with the grace of God won for us by the finished work of Jesus. Jesus' passion does not remove our freewill after we come to know Him like some teach. That's why Paul states 'work out your salvation in fear and trembling'. OSAS is a dangerous theology and lulls many into thinking the blood of Jesus will simply cover their sins. Some simply are taught to ignore the warning verses or to attribute them to others but not to themselves.
A good way to think about this is that when we are unsaved we are bobbing up and down, treading water in a big ocean. Jesus rescues us and takes us out of the ocean and puts us on a boat. We are safe there. He will never throw us in the ocean. And on this boat, no one else is able to throw us back in either. But you can choose to jump back in the ocean if you so desire. Make sense?
@@jonathan711Yeah! it does make sense, you made a good analogy there.
False teacher
@@MaviLeb Who?
Love you brother, but you misquoted scripture. You said, “All that the Father has given me, I will not lose one” (7:50). That’s not what the Bible says and is very misleading. The Bible clearly says that it is the WILL OF GOD that He does not lose one. Big difference. It’s also the will if God that none should perish, but that all should come to repentance; but the will of God is not always accomplished.
It pains me to see this doctrine promulgated as it is. There is a great apostasy coming (2 Th 2:3, 1 Tim 4:1, Mat 24:9-13) and we should be warning believers as the Bible does (Heb 3:12, for example). Instead, many are receiving false assurance because of teachings like this.
Hal Chaffee Thank you for using Scripture to back up what I believed. It is so important as teachers of Scripture that we rightly divide the word of truth. The Scriptures are the final authority on which we base our beliefs. But if our beliefs are based on a misinterpretation of the Scripture we’ll continue to teach it incorrectly. I knew there was a Scripture about the great falling away. And that falling away refers to the Saints. This supports the idea of being able to forfeit entering into the kingdom of God by our own choice.
@@granitarichardson5156 the falling away does NOT refer to those who are born again! It has to do with the rampant false teachings that will take place, but it doesn't mean believers lose salvation. What does HAVE eternal life mean?
John 10:28-29. "neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand" because "my Father, who gave them to me, is greater than all "
Graft Me
Depart from the faith means one had it, therefore, lost it. No faith no salvation.
@@jamesjeson556 I don't believe it is speaking of those who are born again because the next verse says that those who depart from the faith were liars, having their conscience seared, etc. 80% of Americans claim they are of the Christian faith, but that doesn't mean they are born again. We see many departing from the teachings of the faith and are believing lies, but they were never OF the faith. If one truly believes eternal life is by the grace of God through faith in that grace, they would never depart. The problem with those who believe they can lose their salvation is that they don't actually put their faith in Jesus Christ. They put it in their own ability. Those are ones who will depart from the faith because they never really believed the Gospel.
I SO NEEDED to hear this!!!! AMEN!!! Thank you so very much for this video! You have no idea how much The Lord just used you to speak too me.
Many scriptures show us that OSAS is not biblical. The parable of the prodigal son proves OSAS is not biblical.
Thank you always.But in line with this video explain this passage: “ Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling “
Thank you for your wonderful work.
The verse you mentioned is Phillipians 2:12. Except most of the book of Proverbs, it usually helps to read before and after the verse that raises a question. Phillipians 2:13 reveals that God works in you. The beauty of the salvation that God has invested in you is constantly being discovered. As you pray, fellowship with other Christians, study the Bible and obey Jesus what he has put in you will be more plainly seen by you and those around you. Work out what God has worked in.
Notice how it doesn't say work AT or For our salvation because that's impossible since Jesus paid it all. Paul is expounding on Eph. 2:10 that we are created unto good works.
Amen. Listened to the first 30 sec just to make sure you said Yes, once saved always saved!
Praise God, thank you brother for the truth of your message. I was saved year 2000. Within that span of year til the start of lock down. My life is a like a wheel. Up and down, always stumbling down to the point that I intentionally stop praying and again embrace the worldly life. Many times I encounter nightmare and wrestle with the enemy trying to put me to a complete sleep. But each time I call on the Lord to save me. Then it become a habit just to call on God and repent whenever I'm in trouble. But this pandemic bring a great blessing to me. I was lock down... No work no pay. Instead of freaking out, I welcome it as a wake up call. That God has purposely than this thing because He loves me much. So I assess my spiritual state, humbled down and again seek God's fellowship. I start rereading my Bible and hope to finish it before I return to my place. This OSAS, message just confirm everything . What God has started in my life. He is going to finish it before the return of Christ Jesus. I also resume my intercessory prayers and be part of the many lights shining bright on my place and also to the world. Appreciate if you would Kindly include me in all your prayers...Thank you.
G'day mate Errol here, i am 70 years old and i gave my life to Jesus at the age of 40.
In the past 30 yrs i have seen many come and go, some that looked to be following Jesus with all their heart,
now they are back to their old life worse than before. God has given us a free will and I believe that we can turn
our back on God deny him and walk away.
You are trusting your eyes and not the word of God, though Errol. God is clear "if they go out from us, they were never of us" - 1 John 2:19
They SEEMED like believers to you, but God knew their hearts, which is why they fell away. If anyone falls away, it's an insult to God to believe He lost them and wasn't strong enough to keep them. If you listen to this video again, the narrator does a great job of citing the Scriptures that point you directly to how we cannot fall away if we belong to God.
Amen. Free Will allows for Believer's Freedom...To Endure to the End or To Stray...God creates NO ROBOTS. God takes no Hostages!!! All Glory be to God for His Genuine, Unconditional Love to us-ward!! 😊
@@lynette4412 Thank you for sharing, i also thank the Lord everyday for his Genuine, Unconditional Love. God bless.
@@lynette4412 God creates no failures. Phil 1:6
And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.
If you endure - it's God's victory.
If you fail - you were never His. He doesn't fail. Read the above verse carefully.
1 John 2:19
They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
Also - there is not one, not a single verse that ever speaks of the free sovereign will of man. It does not mean we are robots, it just means God is so above your understanding that He can determine something and even if you exercise your will to try and change His plan, He will still get done exactly what He intended.
@@shuntymcfuggles3623 God bless you mate, have a great week.
Ok, Buddy, ( good channel, I respect what you are doing) I just started watching this video and had to comment at 1:42 already ( and I will continue to watch afterward). You preface your statement of "once saved always saved" by saying; " Once you become a GENUINE follower of Jesus Christ ". THAT is where the issue begins in my humble opinion. We need to all have the same definition of what is a "Genuine follower of Christ' . 2 John in verse 8 says " 8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.( end) Now, with that being said. Some people's experience in being saved involved nothing more than a guy asking someone " Are you saved?" and the person says " No". "Would you like to be"? " Yes". Then say this prayer and yahoo they are saved and they give it no thought ever again. To some, that is the experience that they have based their salvation on. That person may think that they are saved, but in reality, are they? Real salvation is when I fall to my knees and submit my will to the higher authority of God, telling him that I realize that on my own I have NO chance of salvation and that I accept the Blood of Christ to cover me and my sinful nature. Some people think that the prayer is like a magic spell or that God changes sin so it is not sinful anymore, FALSE. God changes the sinner and real faith is a faith that works and creates fruit. I am really studying this hard right now. We are surely saved by faith and the grace of the Lord but we do not still just wallow in our sins, we still wallow in sin because we have a sinful nature but we do not keep sinning ON PURPOSE and expect God to be happy with that can we? God made law and the penalty for breaking it was and IS death. So now when we become Christian we can break it with no consequence? Did Christ die so I could keep on sinning? This once saved always saved doctrine is a slippery slope. Every time I pray for clarity on these issues It seems God is telling me that the law is only dead for SALVATION. I will close with this my Friend and continue with the video, in Revelation when Jesus comes back, what does He find? It says He finds a one-world government, a one-world currency, an APOSTATE one world church and a remnant.. a remnant of His true believers that " Keep the commandments of God AND the faith of Jesus!
Amen,Amen,and Amen........
Thee first person to break it down so simply for the confused people in the back.... Amen! Yes Lord use him! Your studying shows... GOD Bless!
Brother Allen, I agree with most of your teaching. In fact, you are doing a GREAT work in these last days that you MUST continue with all due diligence. NO sin can sever us from Christ - He paid for it all on Calvary's cruel cross. Notwithstanding, God will NEVER override man's free will. If, like Judas, we believe in and follow Christ and later turn away, He will honor our decision to apostatize. It's not a matter of sin, rather free will and choice. Hebrews 6:4-8 makes that abundantly clear. The word for "fall away" in verse 6:6 is PARAPIPTO, meaning to knowingly turn away and reject/return the free gift of salvation that we once embraced. You can never LOSE your salvation - however you CAN premeditatedly walk away. Keep up your critical ministry! And God bless and guide you in all things.
Hi Allen, I will reply to this, as you asked - with a scripture. I think it speaks well enough for itself:
"For it is impossible to BRING BACK TO REPENTANCE (Meaning there has been one previously), those who were once enlightened - those who have experienced the good things of heaven and shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the power of the age to come - and who THEN TURN AWAY from God. It is impossible to bring such people back to repentance; by rejecting the Son of God, they themselves are nailing him to the cross once again and holding him to public shame.
When the ground soaks up the falling rain and bears a good crop for the farmer, it has God's blessing. But if a field bears thorns and thistles, it is useless. The farmer will soon condemn that field and burn it."
Hebrews 6:4-8
Exactly. All the other scriptures I am seeing in the comments do not at all confirm that you can't turn away. These people are too eager for grace and not eager enough for the truth.
We are studying this now. The parable about the fig tree is another example. It must bear [righteous] fruit or it will be cut down. But people will believe what they want to believe.
I am saved because of the fact that Jesus finished the works upon the cross, thus securing my Salvation.
You must be born again, REPENT from all sin, and trust in Christ as the reason for your salvation.
Read the Gospel, and see what Christ says about sin, instead of twisting Paul. Sin boldly says Luther. Wonder what our Lord would say to that
@@believein1 In order to be born again you have to believe in the fact that Jesus finished the works upon the cross. Repent either means feel sorry or change of mind {like changing from trusting in my works for salvation to trusting in the finished work of Christ alone}, it doesn't mean stop sinning.
@@Meliasnusrey What exactly do you think a changing of mind means? If you continue sinning, clearly your mind has not changed. What you suggest is a doctrine of devils.
@@believein1 I believe, "changing of mind means" stop looking to yourself and your works for salvation and to trust in the finished work of Christ.
What do you mean by, "If you continue sinning, clearly your mind has not changed."?
What do you mean by "What you suggest is a doctrine of devils."?
I'm suggesting in just trusting in Christ for salvation, what are you trusting?
Brother Allen,
I appreciate and respect the work you do for the lord. I am a subscriber and I will continue to watch your videos. However, with that said I must respectfully disagree that once saved always saved. I agree works do not save us but the grace of God. We cannot earn our way to heaven. I also believe we can be forgiven multiple times for our sins and no sin is too great to be covered by Jesus atonement for our sins. Nevertheless, if we turn away from God and do not repent we chose not to serve him.
Matthew 7:21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. This verse is not just for false prophets but anyone who is not doing God’s will. If a believer is unrepentant of the sins in 1 Corinthians 6:9, Galatians 5:21, and Revelation 21:8 they will not enter the kingdom of heaven. Continually committing the sins mentioned in those chapters without repenting would contradict God’s word. Saying I am sorry is different from repenting. Furthermore, in Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Many people want to have enough of Jesus to be saved but still have fun with the devil. I believe that it is risky because your heart could turn away from God and you won't repent anymore. Some peopleget old, sick, or injured and choose to repent. However, we could be killed instantly without a chance to repent.
Even when we have been baptized we must choose who we will serve. We could fall away and even come into unbelief. God does not force us to choose. God wants all of us to return home to him. God will forgive us if we ask Him. However, individuals have to ask for forgiveness and try to serve to the best of our ability.
Respectfully. Your brother in Christ
The Minister Artist
The Minister Artist amen
The Minister Artist amen
Dear The Minister Artist
I am not sure what point you are making. I assume that you agree with Christian theology that salvation comes by faith only, in the work of Jesus Christ, separate of you own efforts (works). Are you implying that salvation is maintained or retained (at least in part) by what we do (our works) ? If this is what you are trying to say, then this would not be a Scriptural understanding of the Christian doctrine of salvation. It appears that your understanding of soteriology may have some misconceptions.
Do genuine Christians sin ? Yes. If a Christian sins will he lose his salvation ? No, not under the Gospel endorsed by Scripture, because Scripture clearly teaches salvation is by faith, not by works. If you say one loses his salvation because of his behavior then your salvation is based upon faith plus works, which is not the Christian basis of genuine salvation. The faith plus works gospel, is one of the "different gospels" mentioned in Gal. 1.
Christians don't work and serve God, to become Christians (because all our good we do is not up to God's standards); we work and serve God because we are Christians.
You said, "Many people want to have enough of Jesus to be saved but still have fun with the devil." This description does not fit the Biblical description of a Christian, who is a new creation in Christ where the old has passed away and he is now indwelled and sealed by the Holy Spirit. If you see someone like you described, I would assume they were not a genuine Christian. Your perception of regeneration and Spiritual grow appears to be weak. They may have enough of Jesus to be Christianized into institutional Christianity, but not enough belief in God's grace through Jesus, to be a geniune Christian. There is a very significant difference between the two.
You mentioned, "We could fall away and even come into unbelief." I'm just curious; how would your statement be understood in the light of 1 John 2:19 ("They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.")
Would you agree that people could verbally profess to be Christians, fellowship regularly with Christians and externally act and look like Christians, but not be genuine Christians; just very close Christian counterfeits. They are not genuine Christians and do not have the Holy Spirit indwelling them; they have never become a new creation in Christ, but are imitation Christians; and they may be convinced in their mind, they are Christians. When they leave (fall from grace/fall away), it appears that they have fallen away from Christianity and many would describe the situation as such. This scenario certainly explains a lot of the phenomena that we see.
Wish I could sit and talk with you. Many thanks for your consideration.
DZ
I agree that we are saved by faith and accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Sin cannot make anyone lose their salvation. Works strengthens our faith and we can show our faithfulness through works. Works itself cannot save. I am simply saying that if someone chose to deny Christ after being saved that person chose to reject Christ. Christ calls us but he does not force us to stay with Him. Anyone who repents and asks for forgiveness will receive His grace and mercy.
give authentic contextual bible verse "not out of context huh?" to support your point men
I got into a fb dog fight with some listeners concerning pre-election. I came very close to saying to God, "good bye". Believing that with the horrible sins I've committed in the past, I must not be one of them. Thank you Allen for you contributions to clarifying the Word in a simpler to understand manner.
Can relate to that.
Obviously a lot of people are not willing to say mankind does not have the ability to believe the gospel and choose Christ.
A man told me he take a bullet for a lady, but let a brazen whorish woman die. Is that right?
1 Cor 6 9-11
It's your present, not your past.
We can say that anyone who has not departed from sin does not love the Lord Jesus and has no part in the Kingdom
If it's once saved always saved, why the constant warnings about being careful not to be decieved?
Yolande Bouwer many forms of deception
Because allowing the devil to inculcate false teaching into your life, _poisons_ your faith, and wrecks your life, including your testimony? Because we want to be joyful, fruitful Christians, servants of Jesus, and not spiritual shipwrecks? Not every warning is about salvation, or implies loss of salvation. For one thing, what about what Jesus said about. "eternal...everlasting life"? Was what He said true, or was He just running a bait and switch operation, making promises with His fingers crossed behind His back, which He did not intend to honor? That's impossible, isn't it?
Being saved doesn't mean being perfect.... it means acknowledging your weakness in the flesh and repent at all times when you fail. But I agree with you it takes sacrifice and commitment to surrendering yourself to Jesus all day and not just "oh it's done".
@@TheLily97232 It's kind of hard to come to the right way to look at it, but when we are sincerely seeking the truth, He's going to be guiding us into all truth. Our changing to become conformed to His image isn't all finished as long as we're alive down here. But His work on the cross is done, and that is what gives us our standing as sons and daughters, that allows us to live in His grace, not afraid that we will fail to pass the judgment because of our failures, or because we aren't growing fast enough, and we fear that He might grow impatient with us. Because He bore our sin, our sin is imputed to Him, and His righteousness is imputed to us. That's even more important than our growth. But when we rest in it, were so grateful we want to do what pleases Him.
There is a enemy we fight with & it is not flesh & blood. Salvation is never lost, rewards are.
Loved your video. For some I suggest that it isn't that one can lose your salvation, but if you ever were saved in the first place. Matthew 7:21 and the parable of the sower comes to mind Matthew 13.
Matthew 24:13
King James Version
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Amen: keep on believing in the completed work of Christ, unto the end - that's the key to salvation: Jesus Saves.
TheNthMouse
No, man is not justified by faith alone:
(James 2:24)
“You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.”
Saying that we must be justified by works is NOT saying that we are “saving ourselves”. It just means that in addition to being a gift, eternal life is ALSO A REWARD(Romans 2:6-7). That’s what you Once Saved Always Saved folks don’t realize-it is a reward/gift at the same time.
@@lightninlad
James 2:24
James 2:24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.
James continues to make the case that those who truly trust in God naturally end up participating in good works. As James showed in prior verses, no one can be saved by good works. Works are not required for salvation-they are a "symptom" of saving faith. In verse 22, he used the Greek word eteleiōthē to explain good works as the "completion," or the natural end result, of saving faith. James is urgently making the case that all those who are saved through faith by God's grace will participate in good works.
It is in that spirit that James writes that a person is "justified" by works and not by faith alone. In verse 21, James used the concept of "justification," which some see as a contradiction to Paul's use of "justification" in passages such as Romans 4. Here, it is common for a reader to assume a contradiction with Romans 3:28: "For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law."
It's important to remember two things, however. First, James is not claiming works are required for salvation. His entire argument has been about what kind of faith actually saves. He is on the attack against the attitude that one can be saved by a faith that has no works. He has stated repeatedly that such a faith is dead, useless. He is not saying that faith is not the means through which we receive God's grace; he is saying that a so-called-"faith" which results in no actions is not a genuine faith. A "works-less" faith cannot justify anyone.
The other thing that is important to remember is this: James has been consistent in upholding faith as necessary for salvation. This includes his quote in verse 23 that Abraham was counted as righteous for believing God.
Context is the key to all Bible study, and especially for resolving apparent contradictions. In Paul's writings, it is clear he is describing "justification" in the sense of salvation: being declared righteous by God. James, according to this context, is referring to "justification" in the sense of proof for human beings. Faith saves, says James, but "saving faith" cannot be a mere intellectual opinion, which produces no resulting actions.
God bless
Matthew 24 is all about tribulation saints and has nothing to do w/ the church age. Read John 6:37
Phillip C.
Huh? The tribulation takes place at the END of the Church age. It isn’t it’s own age. This isn’t a three-“age” system. So yes, it’s for the Church Age.
Can a Christian lose Salvation?
"If I can show your Catholic doctrines are false my belief in eternal security, sola fide/scriptura, Predestination, OSAS therefore win by default."
The idea that a Christian can somehow achieve both salvation and “eternal security” instantaneously from just one mental commitment by simply declaring one’s faith and repentance to the Lord, has to be a statement of eternal optimism, rather than a claim to eternal security. It is the height of arrogance defying the 75 verses that how a committed Christian can lose their salvation.
These "doctrines" were unknown in the Church for the first 1500 years, before Calvin and few scholars supported them. Look at all the great theologians of the Church like Origen, Augustine, Iraneous, Lucian, Aquinas and others who were familiar with such passages but NEVER made such a dangerous inference from any Scriptural passage.
There are an abundance of warnings in Scripture however, of how salvation can be lost. If grace is ALL that’s needed and salvation cant be lost these warnings are utterly nonsensical. It is a common view among protestants who believe Salvation by faith alone but only a small minority who claim eternal security. Even Luther believed that a Christian can commit apostasy or grave sin and lose salvation!
There are numerous examples of Christians who have renounced their faith and lost the grace of God. Some scholars however audaciously claim, that not even apostasy can cause loss of salvation.
John 15:- For those faithful attached to the True Vine, they can clearly lose salvation if they fail to produce “good fruit. When Jesus speaks in parables it is to all ages. In the following quotes below , some protestants will claim, the passages are to either a select “unsaved” audience or in general to those who were never true Christians in the first place. For your Salvation's sake, the Vine Keeper can't cut off what wasn't attached in the first place!!
Paul affirms JOHN 15 that the faithful may be "CUT OFF" He writes in Romans 11 "Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, PROVIDED you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off."
2 Peter 2:20, NIV: "If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning." Clearly if you have come to know the Lord but then fall back into the evil ways of the world, you will be worse off than those who do not know Christ.
Luke 15: In the parable of the Prodigal Son, the Father will never turn his back on us but knows that its nearly always thru suffering and failure that we may come to seek forgiveness. If God has orchestrated or predestined our future before we were born, why would there be so much joy over one son/sheep who was lost than 100 ungrateful angry “faithful” followers?
2 Tim 2 IF we died with him, we will also live with him; 12 IF we endure, we will also reign with him. IFwe disown him, he will also disown us
Hebrews 6 4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened,(the author was likely an eye-witness) who have tasted the heavenly gift, (received sanctification/grace!) who have shared in the Holy Spirit, (Baptised?) 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God (inspired by Scripture) and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen away (gravely sinned), to be brought back to repentance (state of grace). Calvinists will claim this passage refers to a specific audience of Jews or uncommitted Christians. But no one who has read and understood the implications of John and Luke 15 could make that assumption. In the light of Jesus’ parables which chronologically predate the epistle, no one familiar with them could suggest that the Hebrews text is not a conformational warning for ALL “enlightened“ Christians and those to come of what might happen if they “fall away.”
Hebrews 10 The author concludes that Christianity is consequently superior to Judaism. The Christians are then warned against apostasy and the “fearful prospect of judgment” (10:27) that awaits “those who have spurned the Son of God” (10:29). They are urged to persevere in their faith following the heroic example of others well known to them. The emphasis on Christ’s priestly mediation and statements on faith and the Mosaic Law are not typical of other Pauline writings
26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[d] and again, “The Lord will judge his people.”[e]
it is rather tragic and sad when some Christians make the text fit their theology rather than vice versa. Such I believe is the minority view of unconditional or eternal security. I believe there are many instances that the text says salvation can be lost in the following passages:
Heb 6 4 It is impossible for those who have tasted the goodness of the word of God….. to be brought back to repentance (state of grace).
Heb 10 26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,
John 15 “IF you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; 10 IF you keep my commands, you will remain in my love….. IF you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.
2 Peter 2:20, NIV: "If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning."
Do I need to show more examples of warnings in Scripture of how salvation can be lost? No one with an openmind could read these passages and claim they refer to false or uncommitted Christians who may be tempted and fall away. Why would a born again need to pray daily for the grace of God to save us from temptation, IF only a TRUE believer has eternal security and cant fall away how can anyone belive ? Moreover, think about the
Jesus CHOSE 12 disciples who all initially accepted him as true believers, but one after several years through temptation and greed chose to sell him out. Another chose to deny him three times. What does this say about loss of salvation and eternal security?. None of the great theologians of the Church like Origen, Augustine, Eranaus, Lucian, Aquinas and Luther who all knew such passages believed in unconditional salvation. Yes, some people who were never saved may fall away but one cant say all followers like Peter were never saved. See Rom 11:22 ....... also "it is the one who endures to the end who will be saved."(Matt 10:22) and "they believe for a while then in times of temptation, they fall away." Luke 8:13 Care to comment on these passages?
"IF we hold fast to the Word I preach to you?" 1 Cor 3:15 Paul was clearly concerned about his followers who might return to former sinful ways that might lose them salvation, right? So may I ask are you a Calvinist who believes in eternal security?
The path to salvation is a battlefield of fighting the good fight, keeping the faith and staying in the race, as Paul said to Timothy so that the reward is his.
"Faith without GOOD WORKS is dead" faith! Where in the Sermon on the Mount did Jesus say "bless are those whose faith alone has saved them, for the Kingdom of God is theirs." Everything about his life and those of the disciples was about WORKS! Those who stand, stand by God's Grace, Those who fall, fall by their own freewill!
OSAS is built on a FALSE premise: the word "saved" That word is not defined correctly by OSAS clergy. In the new testament there are 2 similar words ...salvation and saved. Salvation in the GREEK is soterion which means to deliver from. Saved in the GREEK is sozo. which means to heal, to make whole. A person who believes about the death, burial and resurrection of JESUS..or accepts the gospel or JESUS , or grace or forgiveness or pardon is not healed or transformed in character just by acceptance or assent to truth. JESUS teaches ,that the meek shall inherit the Earth, the pure in heart shall see God, a person's righteousness has to exceed that of the Pharisees. Heb 12:14..one must be holy. ALSO God's forgiveness is void if one does not forgive others . MATT 6 , MATT 18 See parable of soils and.....the word "IF" in the bible!!!!! THEN….. look at 1 COR 9:27 where PAUL , of ALL people, does not have eternal security. He explains in the next chapter. Then there is JUDE, 2 PET 2, Heb 6 & 10 OSAS is for the deceived bible ignorant.
Amen and Amen! Thank you Alan. I have been struggling with this doctrine for many years, due to watching videos of people claiming to see Christians suffering in hell! I think I can finally feel secure in my faith in the finished work of my beloved saviour Jesus Christ!!
That’s right, listen to Allen. Not the people who saw Christians going to Hell with their own eyes. 🙄
Steve you are still struggling with this doctrine because Allen is wrong. You can lose your salvation. Please watch this video for the real and scriptural truth. th-cam.com/video/2W28zs_0ZX0/w-d-xo.html
Why so many believe they are saved by what they do instead of what Jesus has done for us.
Romans 11:6 It is all grace, not works, if it was by works, then it would not longer be grace, and if by grace, it is no more work. You can not mix law/works with grace. If you add one thing a person has to do to be saved, then it is all works and no grace. And no one can save themselves. We can only be saved. Romans 4:5-8 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
People who believe you can lose your salvation are trusting in their works, and not Jesus Finished work on the cross. They have never done the will of His Father.
Matthew 7:21-23 Many will come to me on that day and call me Lord, and tell me about all their good works. Jesus says, Depart from me ye that work iniquity, I never knew you.
Jesus tells us in verse 21 why these people believed they were saved, but they were lost..
They never did the will of His Father. What is the will of His Father? John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life, and I will raise him up on the last day.
Salvation by works never works. We can only be saved by faith alone in Christ alone plus nothing. No works. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Free gift. No works.
Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace ye are saved, through FAITH, and that not of yourselves, (we did nothing for it) it is the GIFT of God, NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast.
Those boasters that told Jesus about all their good works, never said one thing about Him dying and paying their sin debt in full so that they would not have to go to hell to pay for their sins. They never believed Jesus paid it all and we paid 0. They never trusted in His AMAZING GRACE, they trusted in their own works to save themselves. Not what Jesus did for us.
John 6:29 Jesus, answered, and said unto them, this is the work of God, that ye BELIEVE ON THE ONE HE HAS SENT.
AMAZING GRACE, JESUS PAID IT ALL AND WE PAID 0. IT IS FREE, or not at all. Good works are fine, they just can not justify a sinner. Keeping Gods laws is good, it just can not save us.
John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me HATH EVERLASTING LIFE. No works, FREE GIFT. Our sin debt is paid in full and we can never be condemned again. John 3:18
Those that believe you can lose your salvation are trusting in what they do to save themselves and are not saved.
jim kraft amen
jim kraft also Romans 5:20
jim kraft amen
Amen brother!! Ive never looked at it like that. I always struggled with that verse when Jesus says I never knew you.
See you in heaven. Ephesians 1:13-14 In whom ye also trusted, after ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, First Corinthians 15:1-4, in whom also after ye believed ye were sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise. Jesus knows you because you have believed on Him alone for the free gift of eternal life. John 3:18 Believers are no longer condemned.
God bless you for this, I have been with this doubt of my salvation for months, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I still struggle with time to time, but thank you nonetheless for clearing this up.
What a Godly man! I love what God is doing through you brother! Tim.
Christ be with you
surely you saw how false this is
come to Christ
@@MrKev1664bro that’s funny because you have a false Christ profile picture
@@ImJsB1
Christ be with you
how do you know it's a picture of Jesus?
you didn't prove anything he said was true.
Thats the way with protestants because of the holes in their doctrine being built on a foundation of apathy Faith alone.
Come to Christ
Hebrews 1:26 - "For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries." Can you lose your salvation through willful sin... yes.
Andrew Hundeby
Yup. The OSAS crowd will do all kinds of verbal gymnastics not to acknowledge that verse but no matter how hard they try, there’s no getting around it.
Andrew Hundeby, thank you! AMEN!
Andrew Hundeby You want me to explain this verse? I can explain what it means
It just means God will punish you, it doesn't mean he will send you to hell
No, they won't lose salvation. They will just be disciplined.
Thank you Allen, these videos keep me encouraged as a Christian man! Keep continue and our prayers to you and your family to give you the strength and endurance to keep running His race🙏🏿
My life is a novel. I was raised in two “ cults” and we were up and down constantly with salvation. So many people suffered mental issues because of it. Thank you Jesus, that He reached us with His Grace before it was eternally too late❣️
What did the cults say about salvation if you don't mind sharing?
Karen Davis
You can’t lose your salvation. It’s not from our own doing. It’s a free gift of God.
@@iicecourt00
The sacrifice of the Son was freely given to mankind by the Father. However, in order to receive the benefits of the atonement we must BELIEVE. If we do not we will not be saved. However, salvation depends not only on that FIRST step of faith. Afterward this step is supposed to become a continual WALK: "For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall LIVE by faith."
(Romans 1:17)
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Only by CONTINUING to live and walk by faith can we CONTINUE to enjoy forgiveness and cleansing that Christ bought for us (1 John 1:7-9). If we should choose to turn away from this walk of faith or even cease believing altogether we will not complete our journey and stand before Him:
…21 Once you were alienated from God and were hostile in your minds because of your evil deeds. But now He has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy, unblemished, and blameless IN HIS PRESENCE- 23 IF indeed you CONTINUE IN YOUR FAITH, established and firm, NOT MOVED from the hope of the GOSPEL you heard,
(Colossians 1:22-23)
IF introduces the condition which we must fulfill if we are to complete our journey and stand in His presence. However, God has already given us the power to do this in the Person of the Holy Spirit.
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The idea that we must CONTINUE in faith is repeated in other scriptures:
Take notice, therefore, of the KINDNESS and severity of God: severity to those who fell, but kindness to you, IF you CONTINUE in His kindness. Otherwise you also will be CUT OFF.
(Romans 11:22)
The gift of the son was a great act of KINDNESS towards us on the part of God but we must CONTINUE in that kindness or else we will be CUT OFF from it.
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To be CUT OFF from the Vine means that we no longer are SHARING His life. Without His life, we wither and die and, if we meet God in that condition, we will be burned:
6 If anyone does not remain in Me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers. Such branches are gathered up, thrown into the fire, and burned (John 15:6)
JimiSurvivor
Salvation isn’t ongoing. If it was then what’s the purpose of sanctification. Salvation is said in done
John 6:38-40
Romans 6:23
Hebrews 10:14-16
He said the "righteous" shall live by faith.
He considers believers as righteous.
Even if you remain faithless Jesus remains faithful
He cannot deny Himself
2 Timothy 2:11-13
@@iicecourt00
God considers believers to be righteous because they have been forgiven of their sins
We are not under condemnation but we still have remain in Christ and walk in the Spirit to remain free from the power of sin.
Even if you remain faithless Jesus remains faithful He cannot deny Himself
2 Timothy 2:11-13
You interpreted 2 Timothy 2:13 as if it stood in isolation of verse 12. Interpreting verse 13 as you have actually makes it CONTRADICT verse 12 which says "if we deny (reject, disown, repudiate) Him He will deny (reject, disown, repudiate) us." My interpretation remains true to the meaning of these words and it reconciles both verses.
Hebrews 10:26
For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins
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The willful sin was that of not believing that faith in Christ is all you need to be saved, that you had to go do something else to earn your salvation.
@@Keef220D I think that's the thing. It means you don't believe in Christ so how can you be saved
@@Keef220D What would have happened to Abraham if he had stood on his faith only and refused to go where God sent him? Faith without works is dead and wil not save us. Faith in Christ only is like saying God I trust in You but I don't have obey You. I don't have to walk in the good works you prepared in Christ Jesus for me to walk in. I will, instead, just have faith that that command just pertains to crowns and rewards and not eternal life. Salvation is ALL grace but that grace contains a call to obedience that goes beyond faith alone and requires our freewill to cooperate with God's calling. God bless.
@@godislove7410 Yes, I agree, we must first believe in Christ but then we must also f/u with repentance, batpism and a deisre and willingness to obey and to endure till the end in doing so.
"...Go and sin NO MORE" (Jesus)
@Natalie Arlene Jesus, "the same today, yesterday and forever"... Twist that.
@Natalie Arlene "Little children sin not..." (Jesus). Is that twisted too? I can keep quoting for you, These were from Christ Himself...
@@lonleyndn Jesus didn't change, but His covenant did!
@@graftme3168 Everything that I have quoted is from The New Testament friend...
@@lonleyndnGod said in the Old Testament that He would make a new covenant that is not like the old Covenant. And, that is what He did when Christ died and rose from the dead. The new testament tells us that we can't live by the old covenant but by the new. It tells us that living by the old covenant will bring death, but living by the Holy Spirit brings life. So, to say that the covenant hasn't changed is exactly contrary to what scripture tells us.
He looks like Densel Vashington.
Мансур true
He really does no joke
Мансур and they're both believers
LOL....I've been surfing his videos and couldn't think of the name of the guy he looks like....Thanks for saving me an entire day of obsessing over it.
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Bro.Parr I really enjoy your videos you are a great teacher! But I have to disagree with you on this subject... you forgot to mention the one thing God with all of His omnipotent and infinite power cannot or He will not do... and that's go against a person's will! Read Ezek. 33:11-20 I likened this to that of the angels they had the right or the freedom to choose but were not offered the gift of salvation. God didn't go against the angels will nor does He go against our will" God doesn't want robots! No one spoke more emphatically about hell then Jesus himself and those who are going there and what it takes to miss the mark. There are too many scriptures to mention that support how a person could choose to lose their salvation" the bottom line is those who practice lawlessness and if they don't repent of their sinful backsliding ways and die in their sin they wont see heaven's gates.
Jay Jameson Amen
Jay Jameson sounds like alot of hard work. I hope you're good enough.
JWatson1769 but why you keep calling him fool, I don't get that part brother?
No one is perfect, even the disciples wondered who would be saved. Truth is, Christians are not perfect either, we slip and fall, make mistakes etc. etc. but a genuine Christian will ALWAYS return to God. That is the work of the Holy Spirit.
You reference an Old Testament scripture as opposed to New Testament when Jesus fulfilled mosaic law.: so if you disagree with Alan parr then you believe sins are greater than gods atonement and promises of salvation for those who are committed to believing in Jesus? If you think Jesus is greater than our sins then case close salvation can’t be lost. That doesn’t mean you can do whatever u want becusse a saved person is convicted by Holy Spirit to refrain from doing things of the world so even though we will not be perfect we have grace whereas the people who don’t accept Christ reject his gift of salvation
"Without holiness no man will see the Lord." "Except ye repent ye shall all likewise perish."
That still doesn’t prove you can lose your salvation. In order for that person to lose their salvation they have to have had it first which what brings the holiness, not of ourselves but of God because we believed on him. The scripture is for those who just stay in sin & never come to God.
No one who has not been imputed righteousness by faith in the work of Jesus will see God except to experience the wages sin meaning a sentence to Hell fire.
@@rare_one97 They just don't understand this most basic doctrine of the faith .They think they can do it themselves.
@@rare_one97 revelations 22:19 says God will remove you from the book of life if you remove from his scripture. Only saved people get into the book of life. How can you get salvation removed if you're always saved?
@@Aperson-rs4eh I’m not taking a away anything, So do you believe that you are securely saved. If you don’t believe in OSAS how u can you really have confidence that you are ? & what point can you possibly lose your salvation if you have not already have ? I’m not one of the people who claim osas & then live a life a without care of sin or faith just because I say believe in God. I believe in OSAS because I believe on what God word says, it’s scriptures that can be interpreted that one can lose their salvation but if you keep studying the scriptures over u would know that after awhile it’s talking about the apostates. The ones who never believe to begin with, really think about Matt 7:21 Jesus put more energy into saying “I never knew you” most of the time a person just say idk you but in that context those ppl where confess their works more than their beliefs etc. If you a true a Christian not sayin u not u should believe that u saved with confidence & that u will never lose it. If you do believe that you can’t lose it for yourself because u know how are with God then you can’t tell another that they can lose their because, you can’t see their heart.
We can break our covenant with God as I did it in year 2020 when I became very interested in the occult and started practicing pagan/occult things. Although the Holy Spirit eventually stepped in to warn me in many ways, if I decided to ignore the Holy Spirit I would have lost my inheritance. See I had to ask for repentance and except Jesus back into my life otherwise I would have been working for the devil. We cannot serve two masters as the Bible says. Therefore, you can lose your salvation.
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You just posted that the Holy Spirit saved you. Negating everything you said.
@Jesus is My Greatest Friend Thank you! That's exactly it! Sin isn't ok, and if we keep sinning in spite of "being saved" there will be consequences. So if the Holy Spirit is truly in us we will wrestle with our sin, try and figure our what our sins are, where we fall short. If we're convicted we'll truly repent. The Lord can miraculously remove our sin but I think sometimes some of it is left for us to wrestle with, because He uses the fight as a tool to sanctify us. But we are supposed to engage. We have to wage war with our flesh. But the conviction to do so is itself a gift of grace, and not everyone does it, because not everyone professing to be saved is truly saved, and not everyone is on the same place on their path of sanctification, and a lot of reasons. But we're supposed to help each other with the fight, and point out dangers and blind spots to each other. All part of our incredible Sovereign God's plan for us.
Which or how many sins does it take to lose an eternal salvation?
Answer: Jesus on the cross took All the future sins not just particular sins. 🙏
I believe we can lose our salvation like Judas. He is close to Jesus as one of the apostles and in the end, he turned away from Jesus and committed suicide without salvation.
Allen Parr Jr.: I like your videos. This video made me feel peace about my salvation. Sometimes I can't imagine how I am saved, but it has nothing to do with me, praise God.
James 2:24
You see that a Person is considered righteous by what they DO and NOT BY FAITH ALONE.
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Best bible passage to refute once saved always saved.
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Millions of fake christians get wrong about Ephesians
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Prove for rebirth through baptism.
It's a very humbling experience. It draws me closer to Him.
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You can research the shroud of turin that is a miraculous relique, or the picture of our Lady of Guadalupe that can not be of human origin either. Also, the eucharistic miracle of Lanciano was investigated scientificaly and baffles modern understanding. Jesus said to his disciples to eat his flesh snd drink his blood at the last supper, and to do it again in remembrance. He said that the bread is really his flesh, literally. Therefore the catholic priest consecrates the host in the eucharist, that it my in a mystic sense repeat the sacrifice of Jesus. And throzghout history hundreds of eucharist miracles are recorded and explored. The results are the same: the flesh is always that of an around 30-year old man, blood-Group AB, the cells are not cut and keep preserved thrpughout centuries which is actually "impossible". In 1917, in Fatima, 70 000 people witnessed the sun wonder, an atmospheric wonder, because oft the Holy Mother Mary, who gave messages to three children there, prophecies about the second world war, the spread of communism, the great apostasy (the greater part of the church authority lost faith, in fact), liturgical changes after 1960 ect. ("Fatima Crusaders", "The Remnant")
If there is a rightousness that is also inscribed into our conscious, it must have reason. Every sin, according to the faith, is an offense to the Infinite Good, God, who created man out of His love that he might love him in return, see what is good and do it, and avoid evil. All that happens, our deeds included, have consequences. According to Jesus, hell is the consequence of unrepented sin.
Many things point to the traditional catholic Church. Luther revolted out of personal reasons: he was unable to cope with his own sin. Hete sone quotes of Luther who "invented" the protestant ideas that this TH-camr uses:
Christ taught: "If you wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. " Matt 19:17
Luther in speaking of the commandments teaches: "Their only purpose is to show man his impotence to do good and to teach him to despair of himself." Denifle`s Luther and Lutheranism, Volume lll
"It does not matter what people do; it only matters what they believe." Erlangen Vol. 29, Pg. 126
"If we allow them - the commandments - any influence in our conscience, they become a cloak of all evil, heresies and blasphemies." Comm. ad Galat, p. 310
Christ taught: "Be therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves." Matt 10:16 "You know than how to discern the face of the sky, and you can not know the signs of the times?" (Matt 26:3)
Luther teaches: "No good work happens as the result of one`s own wisdom; nur everything must happen in a stupor... Reason must be left behind for it is the enemy of faith. " Tischreden, Weimer Vl, 143, 25-35
"Reason is the devils handmaid and does and does nothing but blaspheme and dishonor all that God says or does." Against The Heavenly Prophets, On Images And Sacraments
"Reason is directed opposed to faith, and one ought to let it be; in believers it should killed and buried." Erlangen, Vol 44
"A person that is baptized cannot, thou he would, lose his salvation by any sins however grieveous, unless je refuses to believe. For no sins can damn him but unbelief alone." The Babylonian captivity. It's worth mentioning on this point that Luther himself had early written: "Pray for me I am falling into the abyss of sin." - Enders, Vol 3, Pg. 193
"Be a sinner, and let your sins we strong, but let your trust in Jesus be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death and the world. We will commit sins while we are here, for this place is not where justice resides... No sin can separate us from him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day." 'Let your sins be strong' from 'The Wittenberg Project', 'The Wartburg Segment', translated by Erika Flores, from Dr. Martin Luther`s Sämmtliche Schriften, Letter No. 99,1 Aug. 1521 - Also Denifle`s Luther and Lutheranism
"Do not ask anything of your conscience, and if it speaks, no not listen to it; if it insists, stifle it, amuse yourself; if necessary, commit some good big sin, in order to drive it away. Conscience is the voice of Satan, and it is necessary always to do just the contrary of what Satan wishes." J. Dollinger
Christ taught: " Let your light shine bevor men, that they may see your good works and glorify your father who is in haeven." Matt 5:16
There are also many warnings in scripture that warns against falling away from salvation. (Gal 4:9, Col 1:23, Tim 1:19, 4:1, Heb 3:12-14, 12:14-15, 2 Peter 2:20-21, Apoc 2:4-5)
Christ taught (in the words of St. James) "What shall it profit, my brethren, if a he has faith, but has no works? Shall faith be able to save him? So faith also, if it has not works, us dead in itself." James 2:14-17
Luther: "It is better to guard against good works than against sin." Trischreden, Wittenberg Edition, Vol. Vl., p 160
"God works are bad and are sin like the rest." Denifle`s Luther and Lutheranism Vol. Ill
"There is no scandal greater more dangerous, more venomous, than a good outward life, manifested by good works and a pious mode of life. That is the grand portal, the highway that leads to damnation." Denifle
"He that says the Gospel requires works for salvation, I say, flat and plain, is a liar." Tischreden, P. 137
Christ taught: "Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill."
Luther teaches: "Peasants are no better than straw. They will not hear the word and they are without sense; therefore they must be compelled to hear the crack of the whip and the whiz of the bullets and it is only what they deserve." Erlangen Vol. 24, pg. 294
(I thank Lua Tran)
God bless you.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.
Amen.
One of my favorite verse which also confirms that we cannot lose our salvation is Romans 8:38-39. It reads, ““For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
Romans 8:38-39 NIV
Nothing and no one can separate us from God’s love which is in Christ Jesus.
Yep, but silly man tries to pollute that by saying we can voluntarily leave God. When He says nothing can pluck us from Him, that also means that we, ourselves, cannot pluck ourselves from Him. Not a license to live in sin, but rather eternal security that when we do stumble or struggle and fall to temptation, we still belong to Him.
■ "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:" (2 Timothy 2:12)
Note the "IFs" regarding the holy spirit:
■ "For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." (Romans 8:13,14)
Note the "IF" regarding abiding in Jesus:
■ "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." (Jesus, in John 15:6)
Note the IF regarding returning to unrepentance and willful sin:
■ "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries." (Hebrews 10:26,27)
Note the if - the consequence - of not remaining "in His goodness" or grace:
■ "For if God spared not the natural branches [the Israelites], take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." (Romans 11:21,22)
Note the warning:
■ "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it." (Hebrews 4:1)
@@TheBibleSays 2 Tim 2:13, “If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful, he cannot deny himself.”
@@TheBibleSays Eph 1:13-14, “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise, which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
@@winterpatriot1429 He remains faithful to His word: *if we come to Him,* He will not deny us. John 6:37
Brother, fantastic presentation of this truth in the gospel! I have faith you reached many who were prior doubting their own salvation. God bless!
I love your teachings and happen to agree with all that you've said except for the once saved always saved doctrine - reason being Hebrew 6: 4-6 "For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt". Unless my interpretation of this passage is incorrect I believe a true believer for whatever reason, can turn away from God and loose their salvation . Continue with the excellent teachings - you are a blessing!
Seems people will overlook this truth. OSAS is a lie from the pits of hell. Lukewarm believers cling to it, because they have tickling ears. They try and make the most high in their image. Anyone who teaches OSAS is a false shepherd, and will answer for it at judgement. People who fall for it are without excuse, because they suppose to study their word.
Read some commentary on that verse
HalleluYAH Praise YAHUAH Keep working for your salvation. Best of luck to you. Since trusting alone in Christ isn’t enough
I’ll go with (Ephesians 2:8-9) and all 60+ verses that deal salvation through Christ alone
God bless you for your comment! I’m reading commentary from my KJV study Bible, and it is saying that in Hebrews 6 this refers to a hypothetical situation of what would happen to a saved person if they could fall away.
James 2:18
“Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.”
King James Version (KJV)
Great verse: talk *_is_* cheap. Why did you decide to post that one?
@@TheNthMouse only to those who don't do the "work" keeping HIS Laws by faith... yeah their talk would be cheap as from your response I can see all you do is say you believe n keep sinning... no Repentance
@@TheNthMouse you do know the mouse is an abomination lol...
Whoa, did not expect such a strong reaction to my initial question below. I have another question for the OSAS crowd. Does a person still have freewill after they have a genuine conversion?
I have a Jesus style question. Why do the Apostles send warnings about hell to people that have genuinely accepted Christ?
Actually yes, the warnings are to born again believers as per the context of the books.
where? remember just Lot. 2 Peter 2:7, at least I give vs. (Lot) really had sex with his kids...ewwwwwww.
Paul Rock his daughters got him drunk and raped him, did you even read the story?
Victor Funk notice how they wont answer these question lol
Even Jesus, throughout the NT, tells people that they must confess their sins to one another. Why would He warn people of the consequences of sin? Did He lie??? You still have to follow the Ten Commandments! Revelation says “Nothing unclean shall enter.” That doesn’t sound like once saved always saved.
Thank you Pastor Parr for posting this video! I followed along in a copy of the Holy Bible I have at my residence and I appreciate that you backed up this video with scripture from the books of the Holy Bible! And all of it made sense! My problem is with doubt and has been for a long time but with what you presented and backing it with what the Holy Bible says- I found encouraging and the other day I prayed the sinner's prayer and the prayer of salvation and I don't remember doing those steps when I was younger. I took the time to do so and I hope that my doubt is gone once and for all! Thanks and God Bless!
God through the Holy Spirit has shown me several things relating to the afterlife with the purpose of convincing people like yourself. Stuff like Heaven and Hell, Angels, and evil Spirits the Lord Jesus (not worthy at all), a miracle happened to me that saved my life (thank you God) & so much more. I am more than happy to give further details.
What about the ten virgins five was ready with oil in their laps , they were all virgins but only five could say, here com's the bridegroom let as go and meet Him chose with out oil , meaning they did not have a continuous relationships with Him could not meet Him they could not depend on their fellow virgins oil , only to have their own oil in their laps. PAUL continue to say , without sanctification you will not see GOD,
Ummmm... If you're using this as an argument against OSAS, then you don't know what the doctrine teaches. This is a straw man.
All ten were ready at first, but their waning faith prevented them from going with the bridegroom.
For by grace are you saved through faith in Jesus. As long as your faith is in Jesus, you have relationship and security. When you no longer have faith in Jesus, it will not help you to have faith in a misinterpreted promise of Jesus. God's promises only apply to those that place their faith in Jesus!
Mr Combrink, the parable of the ten virgins is NOT written to the church but is written to the latter day Jews and gentiles during the 7 yr tribulation period. The Scriptures can only can only be interpreted thru a dispensational framework. In the church age Christians cannot lose the Holy Spirit.
@@deniserife7694 Yes, the very nature and context of the "10
Virgins is a reference to the very LAST (literal) days of
the End-times, and in the book of Revelations we have a
Clear warning that truly appears to jibe with the Parable.
That warning is simply, that there will be a "Great falling
away." A Great Falling Away---obviously---is a picture of
Christians who "Turn away" from the Faith they once HAD.
The LORD will not circumvent our will; HE doesn't FORCE
us to STAY in HIS word. If believers in the very Last days
can "Fall," believers in ANY age can Fall.
Galatians 3:1-16 is painfully Clear that Christians still are
allowed their "Free Will." GOD does not FORCE us to "Con-
tinue in HIS Word (John8:31)."
How could language BE more clear than in 1Tim.4? Or Heb.
6:4-6? The LORD even mentions the Israelites of the Exodus
led by Moses; THEY were the Old Test. version of toDAYS
Christians. GOD held them accountable by the Miracles HE
had shown them. 1Cor.10:1-5, makes it quite CLEAR that
Many of them "Fell," despite all the "Signs" that their GOD
had provided them.
Do you believe that Angels are Greater than us? Scriptures
says WE were created "...a little LOWER than the Angels."
Well, Why did he allow THEM to Fall, if WE cannot fall?
Lucifer was "Perfect in ALL his ways ( including Love and
Knowledge)," and yet---GOD did NOT prevent his demise.
If you really Study Pauls writings, you'd see, he spent a LOT
of time warning of "Wolves entering INTO the fold."
Why would he issue SO MANY Warnings to New believers
if there was absolutely NO chance of falling away?
We must be careful of "Watered-down" teaching. Please, take
no offense---I am only attempting to shed a little light on this
Subject.
GOD bless you, and Stay healthy.
the subject has to do w/ Rev. 15:15 the trib. rapture which is the second rapture after the church age at the beg. of the trib about this. they have to be looking for him at that time to be taken. The church doesn't have to look for him, your going but if you want that crown you have to look actively for him everyday 2 Tim.4:8
I do find it amazing that people use Jude to defend the "always saved" doctrine.
V 5 says "He saved the people out of Egypt and afterward destroyed them that believed not (continued not, I Cor 10:1-10)". We know He only saved Joshua and Caleb (but saved ALL the others). Thru rebellion they backslid and were all destroyed. I Cor 10:21 "you cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of devil's", same chapter, same topic, diff example.
V 6 The angels IN heaven (without a sin nature) rejected God, followed Lucifer, now Satan, and He condemned them to hell.
V 7 Sodom GIVING THEMSELVES OVER ... you know that story.
Jude clearly is making the case we can backslide and turn the grace of God into lasciviousness (v 4, depravity, sexual sin extremes). They are TWICE DEAD, whose fruit withers, without fruit, plucked up by the root (v 12). Jesus CAN keep us, and will but not against our will.
This is why "snatch" is the key there. We cannot snatch ourselves. He didn't say we cannot NOT MOVE ourselves because we can do what we want. Snatch is from outside. This is why He keeps our steps, guides our way, preserves the Word forever. Stay in it and you are preserved. Sin, if repented of, is forgotten and removed.
Jesus told Peter (an apostle, saved) in John 13:8 "if I wash thee not, thou has no part with me". That is extreme and complete. I don't think Jesus was exaggerating to make His point.
And in Rev 21:7-8 "he that overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, unbelieving, .... and all liars will have their part in the lake of fire". I don't think he's just saying "sinners" there. 8 follows 7 and we must overcome. Every church (Rev ch 2-3) was told that. Some were told He would take their candle out if they did not return to their first love, Him. They started right and turned away.
Peace brother.
You're now making it about your works then rather than about Gods grace, which means that in order to be saved, you need to be like the pharisee and keep the whole law. Good luck, only one managed to do that. I suggest you study the scripture again with those versus in the video. When God saves he saves to the uttermost so that we can have full assurance and confidence, otherwise we're living in constant fear of whether we were good enough, did I sin enough etc etc
@@thehourifirstbelieved3655 - Just read it in context. If the angels in heaven sinned and they did not have a sin nature then why do you think God used that scenario as a reference for us? God can save us to the uttermost and will but not against our will. We get saved by trusting in Christ, we stay saved by trusting in Christ. Live by faith. Live in faith. Live in the Word. I trust the Word, not my works. How can you say you are trusting God but sinning at the same time?
@@redfaux74 because God doesnt wipe out our old sin nature until we die and receive new bodies..that's why he gives us new bodies..because these ones are tarnished with sin. Please read Roman's 6 and 7. When we believe in Christ we become new creatures with new natures..but our old nature is still in our mortal bodies..that's not saved..what's saved is our new nature and 1 john 3:9 illustrates that perfectly..that he who is born of God cannot sin..our new nature cannot sin.. hence perfection..hence being able to enter Gods rest eternally. God bless you..I pray you understand this and begin to enjoy your salvation
@@redfaux74 also..you said we stay saved by trusting in Christ..that sounds like you're trusting on your will and works to keep you saved..if we couldn't earn salvation.then we definately cant keep it..only he can..and he said so himself in John 6:39.
@@thehourifirstbelieved3655 - Please read my comment first. I've read Romans over 50 times. It won't change. Why did the angels in heaven (before Earth was created) sin and God used that to warn us? They didn't have a sin nature yet God warns US not to sin in the New Testament? Using them as an example for us?
One of my greatest fears was losing everything. When I offered myself to Christ, my biggest fear became “what if I go back to my old ways?”. But I don’t think im afraid of that anymore because where there is love, there is God, where there is God there is love, and wherever there is love, I will follow.
Watch this if you want to know the truth th-cam.com/video/WTr76C2sxIM/w-d-xo.html
I do agree that once we are truly saved it will hurt us and our spirit if we keep sinning. But I don't believe in once saved always saved. I'm sorry but there are too many scriptures to back this up
JESUS CHRIST did all the work you didn't.
@@Corinthians-kjv If Jesus did it all then everyone is going to heaven, correct?
@@timothyseals3791 You've got to humbly acknowledge in your heart that God did the work. Otherwise you will claim all the credit for yourself. You won't be going to heaven in these circumstances.
The process of salvation is not final until you hear the words "well done thou good and faithful servant, enter in to the joy of your Lord", until then we are working out our salvation with fear and trembling.phil.2:12
Yes, it is biblical. There's lot's of evidence that we can't lose our salvation. Jesus said in John 5:24, "Truly truly I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who has sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed from death to life." That is exactly what salvation is, the process of crossing from spiritual death to spiritual life. That transaction cannot be undone, hence we cannot lose it. In Romans 6, Paul assures Christians that they have dies to sin of being "in Adam". This does not mean we have died to sinning. We all know that. He mentions this 11 times in Romans 6 in the following verses back to back,
6:2, "we died to sin."
6:6, "so that the body of sin would rendered powerless."
6:7, "no longer a slave to sin."
6:7, "we died to sin."
6:11, "count yourselves dead to sin."
6:14, "for sin shall not be your master."
6:17, "you used to be slaves to sin."
6:18, "you have bee set free from sin."
6:20, when you were slaves to sin."
6:22, "you have been set free from sin."
8:2, "you have been set free from the law of sin and death."
There verses should seal the deal for a born-again Christian. Will you ever be an unbeliever again? Wil Jesus Christ ever leave you? Absolutely not! You have received the very life of Jesus Christ and have been marked by the holy spirit (Ephesians 1:13). Here are more verses to prove you can't lose salvation:
Hebrews 6:18, 7:25, 13:5
Ephesians 1:13-14, 2:8
John 3:16, 5:24, 6:37-40, 10:28-29, 11:25-26
1 Peter 1:4-5
2 Timothy 2:13
Titus 1:2
Romans 8:35-39
To further help Christians know that they can't lose salvation, it's important to ask the question, "Why did Jesus take away our sins?" And yes, he did die to take our sins, but there's a second reason why Jesus died on the cross: So that the spirit of God would never leave we once we are saved. That is how the cross and resurrection go together.
And that, my friends, is why once saved, always saved is true and biblical.
God bless you all.
all.mine123 you can repent of all your sins and be forgiven but there’s one sin JESUS said that you will never be forgiven of is blasphemy of the HOLY SPIRIT.
@@randalkihei9261 The born again follower of Christ won't commit that sin.
"But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."
God chose us, we didn't choose Him.
correct. Also how can a christian be an effective witness of they are not sure they are going ot heaven
@@randalkihei9261 The holy spirit lives with in the believer. That is not gonna happen with a regenerated believer.
no, it’s not biblical
i could literally walk away from God right now and not be saved
there are also verses showing that we can lose our salvation. 1 Timothy 6:10 is one of those verses
I do believe when I gave myself to God I was quite young and I believe the holy spirit will continue to work in our hearts but I know that I am a human being and it's so easy for me to sin I do trust my saviour that he will allow the holy spirit to work in me we go through trials and temptation.
I know if I sin God will forgive me but I cannot continue in sin because if I do I am lost
AMEN!!!!
If you believe that you can lose salvation by continuing in sin you're not saved, because you're trusting in your works to maintain it
@Justin Lim "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries."
This is not about losing salvation. This is about God punishing you for continuing on sin.
"For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth."
Hebrews 12:6 KJV
"For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."
Hebrews 6:4-6 KJV
These guys were never saved.
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."
Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
Salvation is a gift. Gifts are FREE. And it lasts forever.
"And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption."
Ephesians 4:30 KJV
You're sealed, it's a done deal.
@Justin Lim If you truly believed in OSAS before and converted, then you are:
"If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself."
2 Timothy 2:13 KJV
If this applies for someone who loses their faith, I think it would apply to you as well.
Curiosirt though, why did you stop believing in OSAS?
@Justin Lim "And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."
Acts 16: 30-31 KJV
You just need to believe, baptism is a work, so you don't have to be baptised to be saved.
"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."
Romans 4:5 KJV
This hipotheticsl guy, did not have any works, which includes baptism, and was saved
Few false doctrines are more dangerous than the Calvinistic assertion of “eternal security” or “once saved, always saved.”
Sadly, this dangerous doctrine flatly contradicts Scripture, and it is commonly used as a smokescreen to justify sinful lifestyles. In other words, “once saved, always saved” appeals to the most carnal leanings of our humanity. It gives false legitimacy for sin, false comfort to sinners, and builds a pseudo-biblical barrier between countless sinners and repentance.
Let’s put it this way; nothing can force you to separate yourself from God except you. Satan can’t make you do it any more than he made Eve do it. Eve exercised her free will. Adam exercised his free will. And they both suffered the consequences of their actions. Sin separates us from a right relationship with God, but it does not remove us from the love of God. For example, “…(Romans 5:8).” God loves us even while we are in sin, but to say the cross made sin acceptable is to undermine the cross’s necessity in the first place completely. The phrasing shows Paul’s assumption that believers would naturally understand sinful lifestyles must be discarded after salvation. Furthermore, the apostle Peter calls us to follow in the footsteps of Jesus, (1 Peter 2:21-22).” A few verses down, he underscores that Jesus “(1 Peter 2:24-25).”
"...Go and sin NO MORE" (Jesus)
James 4:4
You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
Wrong understanding of Grace: "Grace gives you the freedom to sin."
Right understanding of Grace: "Grace gives you the power NOT to sin."
We don’t do good works to become saved, we do good works because we are saved.
OSAS is not Biblical. Please study your Bibles vs listen to man.
Yo you spit that from the Bible so clearly💯👀🔥and I would’ve used those same verses plus more!! It is so clear from the Bible when we read it. Glad you know the word women of God🙏🏽
Glory to God. This doctrine is leading many away you said it. I’m exposing this wicked false doctrine over on my channel. Check it out and be blessed!
I'd say that yes, once you are saved you are always saved. If, for instance, you continue to live a life of sin (and that of course, is only between you and God, yet can be highlighted by others in love), then I would say that possibility you were never saved to begin with. But even then, we are led into the dangerous territory of, ok so what is the bar? So if someone tells white lies as a 'Christian' and someone else is found to be continually cheating on their spouse as a 'Christian', then who is 'going to heaven'? By our standards, more likely the first person. By God's standards, none of them except if by Jesus which covers all sin, although yes we should still run from it. I pray that makes sense.
@@connorkilby4598 there is a way that seems right to a man, but it’s end is death. It sounds right to our flesh to say that person must not have ever been saved. Unfortunately it’s just not what the Bible says. The Bible says that someone who is truly saved and forgiven can in fact lose their salvation. Jesus taught this in Matthew 18:23-35 when he tells the story of a guy who was forgiven of all of his debt but because he refused to forgiven his fellow servant then all of his forgiveness was revoked. Then Jesus said to his disciples this would happen to them as well if they didn’t obey Him. Check it out and come out of your deception.
@@abideintheWord
We find the Parable of the Unforgiving Servant only in Matthew 18:23-35. The Apostle Peter had asked how many times one should forgive, "Till seven times?" and Jesus answered, "Not seven times but seventy times seven" (Matthew 18:21-22). The context of this passage is Jesus teaching His disciples about the "kingdom of heaven." We can take some very important principles from this parable and apply them to our lives today.
The servant whose lord forgave him much, ten thousand talents, equivalent to several millions of dollars, was unwilling to forgive another servant who owed him a hundred denarii. A denarius was a day’s wage and was worth approximately sixteen cents. Therefore, compared to what the first servant was forgiven, this was a very small amount. The principle here is, "the one forgiven much should forgive much." In other words, the principle of forgiveness is that grace or forgiveness to another is without limit. The disciples are not to count the number of times they forgive. Rather, as the parable teaches, they are to forgive much because God has forgiven much.
In the Parable of the Unforgiving Servant, Jesus is presenting a new principle that is similar to the basis of the forgiveness command for believers found in Ephesians 4:32, "And be ye kind to one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you." Jesus is teaching His disciples pre-cross, and therefore in the pre-church age, but the basis for forgiveness is the same. Because God has forgiven us, we are to forgive each other. Therefore, because we have received much grace, "while we were yet sinners Christ died for us" (Romans 5:8), we are commanded to give that same grace to others. In the Parable of the Unforgiving Servant, the first servant’s debt was forgiven, and he was not required to repay until his unforgiving nature was discovered. In contrast, our sin debt was paid in full by Christ and is the only basis for God’s forgiveness. We cannot repay our debt to God or earn our salvation. It is a gift of grace (Ephesians 2:8-9).
Therefore, in the Parable of the Unforgiving / Unmerciful / Unjust Servant, Jesus is teaching His disciples, and us by extension, that forgiveness should be in like proportion to the amount forgiven. The first servant had been forgiven all, and he then should have forgiven all. In like manner, a child of God by faith through Christ has had all sins forgiven. Therefore, when someone offends or sins against us we should be willing to forgive him from a heart of gratitude for the grace to which we ourselves are debtors.
So, yeah... once your saved.... your always saved. Stop preaching add-ons to salvation 😉
My friend and I had this discussion today. She believes that even if a believer worships the beast and takes the mark of the beast, to save their life so they can buy food etc.., they will still have eternal life with God because because nothing we do will separate us from God if we accepted Him and believed on Him.
I said that if someone takes the Mark and worships the beast, they never belonged to God no matter what they claimed to believe.
Was i wrong to try to correct her by telling her that those who take mark and worship the beast, even if it is just to save their life, they will not be going into eternity with Christ.
You are right. The mark of beast is during Tribulation period which comes after the RAPTURE. And during Tribulation period the Holy spirit is taken away from earth and only 1.44 lacs people are saved as chosen by God. So a believer need not worry about Mark of beast. She must have faith that, she would be along with Christ during Rapture.
If the person is a born again believer, they won’t even be around to accept the mark of the beast. I know this is an older post, just passing through and stopped for a second.
Your not wrong. Pray for her.
I agree , I believe someone thinking they can lose salvation is very prideful and self righteous,we are saved because of what God did
We are not saved by what we do
If you are a true believer sealed and regenerated by the Holy Spirit you can't lose salvation God will continue the work he started in you !
Where does the line draw when we lose salvation
If you text and drive your sinning
If you run a red light your sinning
If you go to the store and pick up a item and don't put it back in the right place your Sinning
If it's 4:58pm and someone asked what time is it ,if you say 5:00pm your sinning
We can't repent of ever single sin that happens if that was the case we would repent ever second of the day
If you don't love your neighborhood and God 24/7 your sinning
If you over eat your sinning
If u spend money you don't have and go into a lot of debt wasting money your sinning
The Holy Spirit does most of the work we just follow
Are works do matter
Works as in "praying,worship,fasting and fellowship" all of this goes along with faith because we do these things to stay close to God
God will discipline his real children
Sin is a condition of the heart; not of actions. A sinful heart leads to sinful action. It is willing rebellion against God. Saying it's 5:00 when it is 4:58 is not a sin. That is straining at nats and swallowing camels. And it matters not what people think or believe, it matters what the Word of God says. The truth is not determined by what we believe. There is plenty of scripture pointing to the fact that a person can give away their relationship with God and be damned.
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Hebrews 6:4-6
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
2 Peter 2:20-22
I don't mean to sound argumentive or anything but it is the duty of all Christians to correct and reprove one another. It wouldn't be love if we didn't. Also we are charged by God to be his watchmen and will be held accountable for not giving warning to others. God bless.
cheron buchanon
a. "I believe someone thinking they can lose salvation is very prideful and self-righteous, we are saved because of what God did
We are not saved by what we do
This is interesting since EVERY orthodox teacher, apologist, author, and theologian for the first 1600 years (back to the First Century) taught that Christians could fall away from the faith. Even Augustine and Luther did not believe in OSAS as it is currently taught. Are all of these people throughout history "prideful and self-righteous" Because they did not teach OSAS. Conversely is EVERYONE who teaches OSAS humble and self-effacing? Surely you are not going to make that generalization.
b. "If you are a true believer sealed and regenerated by the Holy Spirit you can't lose salvation God will continue the work he started in you"
Although you did not cite any scripture this seems to come from Philippians 1:6:
"being confident of this, that He who began a good work in you will continue to perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus."
If you read this scripture in the context you will see that Paul was not saying that the work God begins in EVERY believer INEVITABLY continue and reach completion. What he said was he was CONFIDENT (or PERSUADED) that it would in the case of the Philippians. Paul went on to give REASONS this belief and none of it had anything to do with a belief in OSAS. In part, his confidence was based upon the Philippian's active long-term partnership with him in the ministry of the gospel
"...always making the supplication with joy in my every supplication for all of you, for your PARTNERSHIP in the GOSPEL from the first day UNTIL NOW,
He had other reasons as well:
"Accordingly, it is right for me to feel this about all of you since I have you in the heart. Both in my chains and in the DEFENCE and CONFIRMATION of the gospel, you all are fellow PARTAKERS OF GRACE with me.
(Philippians 1:4-7)
c. It looks to me like the Philippians were very well grounded in truth and grace.
This is the reason for Paul's confidence that they would continue on in the Faith. He says nothing about a belief that they would continue because of OSAS? If THAT had been the real reason for his confidence then would he have not said so in the passage? Also if OSAS had been the basis for his belief that "the work that had begun in them would continue until the Day of Christ Jesus" then he would have had the same confidence for ALL the believers under his care but he was NOT at all CONFIDENT about whether the Galatians would continue in the faith:
"But now, having known God, but rather having been known by God, how do you TURN AGAIN to the weak and destitute principles, to which you desire to be ENSLAVED again anew? 10 You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11 I fear for you, lest perhaps I have toiled for you IN VAIN.
(Galatians 4:9-11)
If Pauls "labors" had saved the Galatians from damnation and brought them into onto a path that would lead them UNCONDITIONALLY into eternal joy I hardly see how could say his work was "in VAIN." On the other hand, if they were turning backward I could easily see how he would be concerned. Being "enslaved AGAIN" is the inverse from being freed from slavery through salvation.
d. "We are not saved by what we do"
If by "works" you mean meritorious works of the LAW (like circumcision, eating kosher, keeping feast days) then I agree because these are not required under the New Covenant. It is to this KIND of ACTION that Paul is referring when he contrasts "works" and faith in the work of salvation. However, when James, speaks of WORKS he does not mean this kind of action. Instead, he means "acts of obedience" The word of faith cannot save us unless it is accompanied by an obedient response of the will.
You stated genuine Christians WILL ENDURE to the end. That brings the implication that we NEED to endure to the end to be saved, which is indeed biblical. I would agree enduring is not about works merit system, however you say later when exploring Eph 2:8-9 that remaining saved has nothing to do from you. You can't have both ways, is it because a person endures after initial salvation or because there is nothing a person can do or not do to remain saved. Please pick one, it can't be both.
What Does Jesus Teach
Yes, salvation is rendered according to a merit system:
(Romans 2:6-7)
“6 God “will repay each person according to what they have 👉done👈.” 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give 👉eternal life.”
The problem is that Allen does not understand that Paul was only condemning one form of merit which would be “strict merit”.
In contrast, “congruent merit” is the system God has implemented for us to obtain eternal life. It is basically a system whereby God rewards people with “eternal life” according to their works, but with the understanding that this is something He wants to do...not something He has to do.
What Does Jesus Teach
Just to be clear, I did like the way you showed that Allen can’t seem to make up his mind 😆.
lightninlad
Thanks. This is why I’m my channel I am doing various series. Right now, working on different Osas arguments one at a time
lightninlad
Not so fast Lightning McQueen, read Romans 2:1-7 and see what the verse is talking about
Read it in it’s context.
@@iicecourt00
Kindly explain the context and not just say "read in context". Too often someone says the other is wrong due to incorrect context, but never really prove that context. If you can do so, it would be helpful to understand your point.
I’m not gonna go into my life story but I almost killed myself today. Now I’m crying and I’m so grateful. Bless you brother
Aaron Parsons how are you doing now?
What about the 10 virgins parable ? They’re a representation of a Christian and they ALL fell asleep waiting for the husband (Jesus) but when they heard He was arriving (most likely the rapture) only 5 of them were wise enough to have oil in their lamps (speaking about an intimate relationship with God. Basically, your gas tank is full lol) and it lights up the way for them to go to the bedchambers. The foolish virgins asked if they could have some of the oil from the wise virgins but the wise ones were wise once more and told them that they needed to go buy some oil for themselves at the market (“pay a price” for that relationship. And I don’t mean we are saved by works. Don’t misunderstand me. But the “price” I speak about is a life of sacrament and intimacy with God in prayer and the reading of His Word). So the foolish virgins left and went to buy oil. But upon their return, the bedchambers were closed and no one else could enter (like the Noah story when the door to the boat was shut.) They knocked and the king (bridegroom) told them to go away because He knew them not ! And He also alluded to them being unclean because of the hour that they were knocking on His door. These were a representation of CHRISTIANS.
I strongly believe that if you’re living a righteous life before God then you’re fine. But if you’re a Christian and you continue to sin then I’m sorry, buddy but you can’t be near God cuz He is HOLY. There’s another passage that says that we must have white clothes that is neither stained nor wrinkled (meaning our souls must be clean before Him) and there’s another verse that says that we must be holy because God is holy.
Keep preaching it sister! I have several videos over on my channel warning people about this dangerous doctrine. It’s the same lie of the devil in Genesis 3:4 when the serpent told Eve she could sin and not die. Please check out some of my vids. I think they will be a blessed to you. God bless!
Can you explain the 7 churches of revelation about Luke warm church laodicea...why did Jesus say this then revelation 3:5 “He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.”
Revelation 3:5
“Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.”
Revelation 3:10 KJV
A little bit off topic here but this is showing that the whole church is not going in the rapture...once saved always saved can’t be true
Here is a video I did on Lukewarm Christians: th-cam.com/video/BR-vtEpf37E/w-d-xo.html
D M yes I’m familiar with dispensationalism but these scriptures I’m putting here apply to the church the body of Christ...so where did I wrongly divide
Rev 3:5 is the promise to the true believers who overcomes. Remember the book of life was written from the foundation of the world Rev 17:8. God is not holding a pen and an eraser writing and deleting people’s names on daily basis from the book of life. There are 2 kinds of believers, false believers and true believers. False believers are those who hear the word and not do it, I.e. it’s those who build their house in a sand Math 7:26, when trial comes, they easily fall! True believers are those who hear the word and do it, i.e. their house is built upon a rock (Jesus Christ), when trial comes they NEVER fall! Math 7:25. The Bible is very clear, true believers, who hear the word and do it, will NEVER fall! For they are built upon the rock and nothing can separate them from the rock!
1 Corinthians 3:16-17 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
overcoming means repenting after serious sin. overcoming isnt continued sinning due to the delusion of OSAS
I hope the scriptures are self explanatory, but I have also including comments on many of them for clarity's sake. Please read them carefully:
1 Corinthians 9:27
"But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified."
If Paul, the greatest Christian to have ever lived (probably), should confess that it was possible for him to be 'disqualified' from the race, whilst having the strong 'belief' that he did, how much more should we be careful to watch our own steps in regard to holiness and disciplining ourselves? To me, this is a key verse against OSAS because he wouldn't mention the possibility of 'disqualification' at all otherwise.
Romans 11:19-22
"Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off."
Paul is comparing the severity of judgement of the Jews to our own possible judgement, should we not be walking with Him. It means that someone who is 'grafted in' to the tree (gentiles into God's kingdom) can also be cut out of it again. This is clear teaching against OSAS.
Hebrews 6:4-6
"For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt."
Self explanatory, I think. someone who has 'tasted the heavenly gift' is someone who has been born again, yet the author is remarking that to truly 'fall away' is to 'crucify Jesus again' and hold Him up to public shame, in contempt, and that this is possible for someone who has been born again. It suggests that it is indeed possible to lose salvation, and that salvation must be guarded closely by those that have received it, to run the race and finish it well.
Hebrews 10:26
"For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins."
Matthew 7:21-23
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’"
How many so called Christians believe they are saved, when in fact they work iniquity? You might say that anyone with belief WILL be saved, and that anyone who teaches that this is not true is a false prophet/teacher/pastor etc. Well, Jesus Christ is telling you different here, I'm afraid. People don't cast out demons or heal in His name without SOME belief in His power, and believing Him to be real. Yet, it is iniquity that prevents them from truly knowing Him. I understand that it can be argued that they were never 'saved' in the first place, but only a belief saving you is still under fire from this verse, because it's simply not true. You can quote other scriptures to back your points, but without the balance of scripture, you only have half the story, and it makes this OSAS doctrine you're preaching false.
Matthew 10:22
"And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved."
1 Timothy 4:1
"Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons"
I put these 2 together because they are related; one must 'endure to the end to be saved', because in the end days people will depart from the faith and fall into error. I pray this doesn't happen to anyone I know, but there it is... believers CAN fall away and be seduced by the devil, and you can bet that they will not be saved in the end because of that.
1 Corinthians 15:1-2 "Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you-unless you believed in vain."
It is possible to believe in vain. Grace alone does not save us, we need faith... and faith without works is dead. How many people calling themselves true believers are producing the works of the Holy Spirit in their lives? Less than you might think, is my opinion. We must 'hold fast' to every aspect of the gospel, and tremble in fear that people we know and love might not make it... we must 'work out our salvation with fear and trembling'
Ezekiel 18:24
But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die.
Finally, this scripture from the OT tells us that a righteous man who turns to wickedness will not find grace; he will die. The flipside is that an unrighteous man who turns to righteousness can be saved - and that's the good news for all of us.
Do not misinterpret "work out your own salvation." This means to let it come out of you, not that you can keep salvation by works. The very next verse says, "For it is God that causes you to will and to do His good pleasure.":It is not by your own works, but the Holy Spirit in you that gives you the will to do what God desires. The credit belongs to Him and not to your own self. If you think it does, you have fallen from grace. It can't be both works and grace. You must choose one or the other. And we know that nobody is saved by their works.
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You will be judged without mercy if you show no mercy. Mercy is an act. An act is a work. Faith without works is dead. We are justified by works and not by faith alone.
Read James 2:13-on.
Tris am with you 100% , OSAS I don't see lining up with Jesus teaching, He said : if your right eye offend you pluck it out" that would mean take drastic steps to rid yourself of anything that would hinder holiness, in contrast OSAS teaches that no matter what you do r dont do you still on your way to heaven
@@comeagain9074 if a person plays around in sin they're probably not truly saved therefore there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins for them because Jesus is the only way out. the Bible is clear that we do not work for our salvation in any way otherwise we would be able to boast
@@graftme3168 but it all depends on your willingness to allow the holly spirit to help you..... still depends on you
Your videos are great. But Im not sure why you said that the bible does not teach that God does not send people to hell.
Luke 12:5 "But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him"
How exactly does he not teach about hell???
Hi, I think what he is saying is that God have us Jesus as a way out of hell. God gives us the chance to choose. God creates every person to be his own. We send ourselves to hell by not choosing Jesus.
Hell is the grave its was never in greek hebrew stop spreading the nonsense around.
@@hellbillyoutlaw8719 Revelation 21:8 "As for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, the murderers, the fornicators, the sorcerers, the idolaters, and all liars, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death." The first death is the grave. The second is the lake of fire.
Verses of scripture that make me question “ once saved , always saved “
- “Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; and, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: if ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;”
- Colossians 1:15-23 KJV
- bible.com/bible/1/col.1.15-23.KJV
-“Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;”
Hebrews 3:12-14 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/heb.3.12-14.KJV
-“I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.”
John 15:5-6 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/jhn.15.5-6.KJV
“For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,”
Hebrews 10:26 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/heb.10.26.KJV
“Yes, but remember-those branches were broken off because they didn’t believe in Christ, and you are there because you do believe. So don’t think highly of yourself, but fear what could happen. For if God did not spare the original branches, he won’t spare you either. Notice how God is both kind and severe. He is severe toward those who disobeyed, but kind to you if you continue to trust in his kindness. But if you stop trusting, you also will be cut off.”
Romans 11:20-22 NLT
bible.com/bible/116/rom.11.20-22.NLT
“Then Jesus told this story: “A man planted a fig tree in his garden and came again and again to see if there was any fruit on it, but he was always disappointed. Finally, he said to his gardener, ‘I’ve waited three years, and there hasn’t been a single fig! Cut it down. It’s just taking up space in the garden.’ “The gardener answered, ‘Sir, give it one more chance. Leave it another year, and I’ll give it special attention and plenty of fertilizer. If we get figs next year, fine. If not, then you can cut it down.’””
Luke 13:6-9 NLT
bible.com/bible/116/luk.13.6-9.NLT
““Work hard to enter the narrow door to God’s Kingdom, for many will try to enter but will fail. When the master of the house has locked the door, it will be too late. You will stand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Lord, open the door for us!’ But he will reply, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’ Then you will say, ‘But we ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’ And he will reply, ‘I tell you, I don’t know you or where you come from. Get away from me, all you who do evil.’ “There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, for you will see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, but you will be thrown out. And people will come from all over the world-from east and west, north and south-to take their places in the Kingdom of God.”
Luke 13:24-29 NLT
bible.com/bible/116/luk.13.24-29.NLT
“And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenæus and Philetus; who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.”
2 Timothy 2:17-18 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/2ti.2.17-18.KJV
“But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry; having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith. And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not. I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully. For some are already turned aside after Satan.”
1 Timothy 5:11-15 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/1ti.5.11-15.KJV
“O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. The first to Timothy was written from Laodicea, which is the chiefest city of Phrygia Pacatiana.”
1 Timothy 6:20-21 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/1ti.6.20-21.KJV
“but I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.”
1 Corinthians 9:27 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/1co.9.27.KJV
“But and if that servant say in his heart, My Lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; the Lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.”
Luke 12:45-46 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/luk.12.45-46.KJV
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