Video is back up! And the ringing is hopefully gone haha! Take care of your ears folks, mine are shot! Shout out to everyone who brought it to my attention! ❤
It's really simple once you use it for a few days. It's just a matter of getting used to the hot keys, menu dive abbreviations and subtle audio nuances.
Everyone who gets one of these... READ THE MANUAL. The whole thing. Straight through, like you're reading a novel. It goes quicker than you think, they have a very clear and consistent way of documenting, and they list EVERY little shortcut in there. There are so many features and shortcuts that make it way more fun to use. Also, make a point of learning the "Roland 7 segment alphabet." Once it clicks, their little display is a lot more usable than you'd think
@kenadhitya Yeah.The P-6 has a lot more depth to it, just a lot more features and routing options that add complexity, but fundamentally, they're built on the same basic design language. Though? i have the original 4, and the S-1 is definitely a big stepping stine between the two. Biggest thing is just read the manual. Roland doesn't really do "undocumented features." they really try and cover everything
HAHAHAH! Love it! So wanna go with your words, but man! No time to waste with convoluted cryptic gear like that. I REALLY Wanted to love this, I mean itz got a MIC!!! But so far that's a firm no.. Gonna keep saving for Torso s-4(or was it1?) or Polyend...
I don't watch enough gear videos. Didn't see this come out! $200 little beast! Very cool. I'm so happy to see the $200 range gear popping almost monthly now! This was what I hoped to see happen to the industry, and now we are headed hard back to little hardware boutique. Such a WIN! I rather 10 mini desktops vs. one 2k keyboard! It's all about fun, creativity and ease of use. Love it! Awesome demo and honestly nice tutorial.
Copy/Paste IS easy... well easier than what's in the video. Press and hold the step you want to copy and use Shift + Play [copy]. Repeat this to paste. You do have to do this for every step you want to paste.
Dude this is huge! they need to put this in the manual! I wish this method didn't just do 1 instance of copy/paste. To paste the same copied step across multiple steps require a copy each time right before the paste. And if you Copy a step then decide to not paste, that copy will live in that buffer. So If you then make a bunch of changes to a step a minute later and go to copy it, you'll accidentally paste the step from earlier :/
@@RickyTinez Yeah they needed a dedicated Paste button instead of the same button for both. Personally I feel like they could have used the MFX buttons to have shift + copy/paste functions. Wait until you want to initialize a pattern, because there isn't a method to make a pattern shorter after you duplicate it. THAT is a wonky key combo.
Thanks for this - weird that it isn't in the manual (at least I couldn't find it in there). Roland manuals have improved a lot in recent years IMO (I wonder if anyone remembers the horrors of the MX-1 manual from a decade ago), but it's frustrating that they are still leaving some things out
@@Decoy303 While it could, and I hope it does, Roland doesn't seem to do a lot of updates with their Aira line from my experience. Maybe this will be different since it looks like it's selling very well.
i really appreciate seeing you learning the unit as you go, and sharing your frustration and talking through navigating the functions the way most of us do with our gear. thank you. i haven't watched tutorial/gear demo videos for a few years because i've found them to be increasingly longer (even with time stamps i find them quite overwhelming), but somehow folks are talking faster and faster to try an cram every feature into the walk-through. mad respect to those who do it for a living and have spent years honing their skills. i just personally prefer shorter, less "polished" and more authentic presentations.
Hi Ricardo, the quantise 70% is to cater for when you play the note early, then it moves it forward to the beat. If you set it to 99%, it will work great every time you are late hitting the pad, but if you ever hit it too soon, it will move it to the next step. I hope that makes sense.
novation should take the same UI and make "machines" like elektron. Each track can be a synth or a sample player. If they want to cut on processor, just allow three synths at the time. Make a little hold toggle to preview knob values on the pads like tempo or swing. Thats all they have to do for an instant money grab from me.
Because I know my way around the S-1, the P-6 workflow seems to have a decent amount of overlap. That's not saying it's intuitive - Elektron machines blow it out of the water in that department. But hey, for $220 it seems like a fun enough machine, and the granular engine and multiFX are unique additions that makes it stand out to me despite its shortcomings.
A lot of people complaining in here, and they haven’t even used it. Most stores have a decent return policy. If you’re interested, buy it. If you don’t like it, return it, it’s that simple. I bought one and it quickly became my favourite piece of sampling gear at the moment.
HOT TIP: If you own a MPC Live 2 on a stand and own a Decksaver for it, this (and All Aira compacts) fit in that indentation on the Decksaver perfectly. Got my P6 today. Feels great
Man, I pounced on this thing so fast because I liked the idea of leaving my 404mkii in the studio and carrying this around instead, but now that I have it I can't make heads or tails of it...? It's a blast for sure, I've fallen into some really cool jams with it so far, but I am chewing through this sample pad real estate so fast. The game you start playing in your head of "am I going to mess up another pattern if I use this sample?" gets very frustrating very fast, and while resampling is an awesome feature it is only so useful when you have such limited storage to work with. The screen and the shortcuts are also pretty rough. I have an S-1 and the screen/shortcuts don't bother me so much on that, but with samplers and granular synthesis it really helps to have more visual feedback. Fiddletown is accurate! You can do some seriously cool stuff with this, but I can't escape the feeling that it's mostly designed to compel people to upgrade to a 404, which I already have. If you could do projects on this, and if it had a 2-line OLED screen, and a slot for even just a 2 GB sd card, this would instantly be more usable.
“Learning new things is hard”. Tell me about it dude! I got my first drum machine in 1989 and immediately set into a workflow of recording rhythms with the pads. Then I started writing music with a guy who asked “why don’t you use one of your keyboards to record drum tracks?” A few years later, I met another guy who called my drum machine a groove box and I was like “huh?” Another guy brought over an Elektron, “who?” Learning new things as hard. 😂
Looks like the prefect blend of fun and sheer frustration. Not for me, but pretty amazing what you get for the doe. I just come here for Ricky's dope jams. I find most synth TH-camrs try to push the boundaries of their devices which often results in some wierd kind of cosmic ego cheese, but Ricky keeps it spacious and musical.
It’s nice to watch you giving those new toys a try. It’s always fun 👍🏻 And, I can also see that the P-6 is a lot of fun, too. IF you don’t own a SP, KO2, SmplTrek, Tracker Mini, etc., then I can even see it’s really useful and JUST 229 bucks. Otherwise it isn’t cheap at all, but simply not as expensive as a DT, MPC, M+, etc.
Love your approach of showing the device by making beats on them. Which I find more intuitive then just touring the device or just making beats. Some of the best content on TH-cam
"Fiddle-town" really puts my relationship with some Roland devices into perspective. Often I feel like I'm dealing with a bunch of isolated features that were crammed into the box (at different times). If you stay within one feature-space/mode you'll probably be ok, but trying to work across multiple features will be a frustrating journey of unclear key combos and inconsistent behaviors.
First version of this video disappeared WHILE I was watching it, and I couldn't help but imagine it was the _Roland SWAT Team_ bursting through Ricky's roof
It sounds like a great entry sampler and looks good but I need more visuals and less button diving so the BlackBox & BitBox are still my favourite. Thanks Ricky
I think the quantize timing feature is really nice to adapt the quantize function to your style of playing. I know some people who usually play rather too early, for those it could be good to set this to 70%. I get the feeling that they implemented a ton of features like this that really make sense if you think about it, but might seem not very intuitive because we are not used to the feature or the way it is implemented from other machines.
I feel that, I pushed it to 80 since I'm usually late and it's been pretty good after that! -- I was just more surprised that I never noticed a want for customization on my quantize on other devices haha. It's never crossed my mind that "this quantization is weird"
Its always interesting to me, when i see roland "groovebox" type demos, or even roland marketing, that the choice of genre is usually something "4 on the floor" and synth based, when virtually EVERYONE I know personally, who uses these "types" of machines, aa well as the "gawds" who initally made them, and their workflow, "FAMOUS"...makes some kind of (usually vinyl) sample based, "hiphop" or "boom bap", "lofi" etc....using all of the grimy effects and funky swing functions, or, the un quanitized re-sample method. I feel like thats where these types of sanplers shine, and it always strikes me as and odd, and somewhat frustrating choice, when im trying to decide if a given new roland product is something I want. I know they arent technically in the same space, but take akai for instance. People use Mpcs for ALL kinds of stuff, various genres, but when they release sumn new? You can bet you are going to see guys making sample based "hiphop" beats, right off the bat, in any review or demo. Roland, on the other hand, i believe, thinks "edm" is "cooler" and has a broader (i.e. whiter) appeal, so likes to pretend thats all thats being made with their machines......its kind of silly ro me. It was that way with the mk2....all the roland demos were "boots and pants" when they know DAMN well the first thing 75% of people who bought it, took it home and sampled a record and chopped a break beat. Just kind of silly.
Haha I felt the same about the 404ii, it was such a steep learning curve. The MV1 too in a completely different way (terrible pads, barely up to push 1 standard was a huge factor), definitely a Roland thing! Epic once you figure them out, but wow. The new 404 update is the biz, wonder if there's an Mv1 update, tho I doubt it.
I have the J-6 from this line of Roland and let me tell you, someone at that company forgot the basics of sequencing and they are still scrambling to find someone that can figure that one out. In fact, I ended up hooking my J6 through MIDI and use the Deluge to trigger the notes. More convenient. And yes, it can be worked and you can make stuff, but damn... too many quirks!
So happy I saw this cause if YOU are having this many issues then there’s no hope for me. It made me realize I need to stick with all the livens i have as well as my uno synth pro x!! Great video. Love your dog ! And thank you!! I think Casio needs to make a 2024 sk-1 and maybe that will be in my mental wheelhouse lol 😂
I applaud Ricky for not joining the influencer ‘every new sampler is the best ever until the next one comes along’ crowd. At the same time: he did a similar video on the isla s2400 in which the workflow looked awful. I have few samplers which are as intuitive as the s2400 after getting to know it. I’ll just try this one out and see how it feels.
hard to say since i don't have it yet, but it reminds me of the 303/505 workflow just by watching others go it at, and having USB/audio passthrough? no brainer. even if i just put it at the end of a po-33 chain for FX.
Brother! I love your vids! Laidback, full of info, entertaining!! But at what 3:50 or so I am already tempted to close the video. I so wanted to love this, been desperate to find "exactly that" cheap Sampler WITH a mic!! Well turns out not exactly...when I saw how many buttonsI have to press, whatz more, REMEMBER)!) to copy ONE step!? I thought nah! I've bought so many cool looking pieces of gear from Roland over the years S-50/ MC-500... all sold coz of that dangin menu diving. Heck itz not even diving, LOL! The Wavestation is diving and guess what I know it almost inside out. EASY! This here, never gonna work... so frustrating. I thought thatz the one! 😂😆🤣
Just wanted to note that it looks like those particular 3.5mm to dual 1/4” TS female adapter cables appear to be the “Hosa YMP-137 3.5 mm TRS to Dual 1/4" TSF Stereo Breakout Cable”. These are also useful for the Centrance Bouncer and TE TX-6 or anything else where you’re running line-level stuff with 3.5mm.
I'm waiting for mine. I use samplers simply and mostly work with breaks and loops, so I don't foresee any problems for me and how I work. It can do many things I always wished my 303 could, so. Shame it has no card storage tho.
Surely no one in 2024 really wants to menu dive using a 7 segment display? I would pay $50 extra for a small OLED... in my mind, if a manufacturer sets out to create a complex musical tool for artists to get value from, either provide 'nob per function' or an informative OLED display. Anyway, love the vids, esp how you film your learning process. Thats important and sets your vids apart.🙏
That's what I wonder too, like realistically how much more would it have cost to put a Nice screen? on the surface, maybe its just another $2 for the part, but then the coding and R&D to make it work with the system costs something too? But I'm with you! If the screen was like the Smpltrek or something I'd pay $299
@@RickyTinez yep. You got it man. So now we await the P-6 mk2... which of course will have a mini OLED display and true aux bus architecture based solely on this exact YT comment string. Haha Go well.
fiddle town - lol . I'll bet you get a lot of x band musicians like me looking to make music with things like this, at 68 years old ,I ask what can I get to sample things, add drums loops , finish Something easy ? I may have been left behind . in 1990 I had an early version of performer a 900 page midi set up , you had to strike 0ne track of an 8 track tape recorder with a sympte code !! I remember selling it all buying a guitar and writing the rough outlines to an 8 song album . your vid is great and funny thanks
Really appreciate you letting us in on your dive into the P-6. It helps to see a musician going through steps both forward and backward as you figure it out. But man! Music makers should not HAVE to do support or become pro troubleshooters. Sadly, as much as i enjoy learning all the things a new instrument can do, i no longer have the patience to battle a non-intuitive interface to learn what should have been better documented. I just want to enjoy the process and have somethjng i am pleased with at the end. Looks like too many pitfalls where you could lose your work, or fatally break part of the track you’re assembling. Deep menus should be accompanied by tutorials from the manufacturer. An Undo of the last action taken would have been an amazing feature. Thank you for the video!
I feel you, I'm hitting that point where I just want my tools to speed up my process. OR be so creative and sound unique that I'm willing to put up with it. The P-6 will probably stick around because of how easy it is to sample and resample at lower audio rates. plus the gradual is cool, but as a single machine can't do it.
I spent most of my weekend trying to find one of these in a guitar center. It looks like it has a weird learning curve but I'm mostly into it for the granular.
Love Roland’s sound. Hate Roland’s ui. What’s new lol. That being said love my s-1 for the size and assuming this is just as easy to use once ya learn it… may grab one of these at some point lol.
Ricky, great stuff! I realize use cases vary ergo, studio, live, etc. I'm in the market for a sampler. Before Roland dropped the P-6 I had been considering grabbing a Blackbox. Since you have fingered them both, I'd like to know your thoughts, and preference between the two. ✊🏽😏
I don't know why he chose to show copy/paste that way, but that's really not how you copy/paste on the P6. You just hold the step and press shift+copy and then the same to paste.
So glad your actually showing how crappy this really is you really can make the pos jump the sound is what really killed it for me it’s just so bad how they would actually let something this bad actually out it’s just shows how Roland is just gone down the drain from the Jupiter to this what in the world happened musta been the ceo that said they’ll never chase the ghosts of the past ….. when the Japanese proverb is if u don’t respect the past you will doom the future
When are they going to make the aira. K25. Style keyboard like on the boutique ones .. it would be good or maybe a midi / step sequencer because the keys look small
I would love for someone to make hardware that’s as fun, easy, and quick to use as Koala Sampler, but it just hasn’t happened yet. Until then, it’s the iPad/Iphone for me.
I've read through the manual twice now and also going back and re-read stuff while looking for functionality and you keep showing key combinations that the manual never mentions
Yea that's my big "boo" with this thing. I will say having that many sample slots does help big time. but it gets really hard to start keeping track after 2 tracks lol
One-way-ticket to fiddle-town sounds kinda sketchy 😅 But also kinda sounds like it could be a jazz standard. Probably not gonna be in any Roland marketing though 😂
Why doesn’t Roland say what the bit rate is anywhere? Anyone know what it is? I use their bit crusher in Zenology and worried that’s really all they put in here. Not that it’s bad, but I already have the plug-in. I was hoping this would be a more refined version of the Microgranny.
From a marketing selling point i get it, that almost every little Aira box has a sequencer built in, so it can be a mini groove box. When will there be a sampler that just samples (and does that with a good amount of memory, sample slots, adjustable parameters) for a reasonable price which you can sequence with a (again) standalone hardware sequencer, a mini Oxi One. It’s the combination of all the things the box has to do that makes it hard to do. Again, it’s probably not a profitable marketing point of view, but if i could be Roland, i would have skipped the sequencer out of the J-6, P-6, T-8 and S-1, and manufactured a Aira sequencer (Q-1 ?). Because i think most musicians will use these Aira devices as an add-on to their setup. I’ve had the J-6 by the way, invested in an Oxi One.
This thing looks like a nightmare to try to actually use as your one and only, but some of the features would be great to resample into something else.
I’ll be using my Keystep instead of those buttons. What is strange is that the PO’s waste their display on childish graphics instead of pertinent information and the Roland doesn’t have the capability to give you that information. Still a neat box though.
Ricky I love your content, bud, but this video is activating tinnitus. Some kind of electronic wine throughout. Cool to see you using it though! I’ve got one on the way, but I get the issues with how Roland designs UI. I’ve got zero samplers right now so I’m looking forward to playing with this little cheapish guy.
can we talk about the big mistake the engineers made when they put the knob below the display instead of above it. every time your twiddling with the knob you have to lean forward to be able to see what the display says behind your fingers and the knob so you can figure out what menu your dialing through or what value you're applying etc
@@RickyTinez I think it could have been interesting if the step buttons had three different color lights inside of them to let you know what mode you are in or what sort of data was on each of the steps
@@J-Hz idh about that... if i reach over and twiddle the knob, i can still clearly see the TEMPO/VALUE label. i'm pretty sure it would be an improvement to have switched the display and the knob around.
I don't think a user mod would be possible. I think the best we can hope for is an MK2 version from Roland with an OLED screen. Or some kind of new box that combines the best features of this and the 404 MK2
Watching a video of someone using a Roland instrument lowers your IQ by 50. Getting a Roland instrument and reading the manual raises your IQ by 50 Roland has us playing a zero sum game 😎
Video is back up! And the ringing is hopefully gone haha! Take care of your ears folks, mine are shot!
Shout out to everyone who brought it to my attention! ❤
I can still hear a faint high pitched note, but nothing too bad
I think It ended up coming from the power supplies all swapping between battery and some on the wall and other on battery (H6)
so fucking good
@RickyTinez Now show us the Tonverk in action 🤞🙏🤗
still getting a very high pitched ring
still on my HS5s
Man, that workflow cured my GAS.
😂
Spot on! Couldn't have put it better!!!!
It's really simple once you use it for a few days. It's just a matter of getting used to the hot keys, menu dive abbreviations and subtle audio nuances.
One the easiest to use samplers I own. Took a couple sessions to get jamming. Easy.
@@kgreggbruce1552 I already have a 404 mk2. It would be dumb for me to buy this just because it could be a fun toy.
Everyone who gets one of these... READ THE MANUAL. The whole thing. Straight through, like you're reading a novel. It goes quicker than you think, they have a very clear and consistent way of documenting, and they list EVERY little shortcut in there. There are so many features and shortcuts that make it way more fun to use. Also, make a point of learning the "Roland 7 segment alphabet." Once it clicks, their little display is a lot more usable than you'd think
I'm pretty familiar with the T8. Does the P6 have the same UI system? I'm curious
I have the j-6, and it's similar in that way...recently re-discovered it's "depth"
@kenadhitya Yeah.The P-6 has a lot more depth to it, just a lot more features and routing options that add complexity, but fundamentally, they're built on the same basic design language. Though? i have the original 4, and the S-1 is definitely a big stepping stine between the two.
Biggest thing is just read the manual. Roland doesn't really do "undocumented features." they really try and cover everything
HAHAHAH! Love it! So wanna go with your words, but man!
No time to waste with convoluted cryptic gear like that. I REALLY Wanted to love this, I mean itz got a MIC!!! But so far that's a firm no.. Gonna keep saving for Torso s-4(or was it1?) or Polyend...
People have already found multiple shortcuts / button combos that aren't in the manual lol
I don't watch enough gear videos. Didn't see this come out! $200 little beast! Very cool. I'm so happy to see the $200 range gear popping almost monthly now! This was what I hoped to see happen to the industry, and now we are headed hard back to little hardware boutique. Such a WIN! I rather 10 mini desktops vs. one 2k keyboard! It's all about fun, creativity and ease of use. Love it! Awesome demo and honestly nice tutorial.
This kind of video is so much more helpful than just another review gushing over the device!
Copy/Paste IS easy... well easier than what's in the video. Press and hold the step you want to copy and use Shift + Play [copy]. Repeat this to paste. You do have to do this for every step you want to paste.
Dude this is huge! they need to put this in the manual! I wish this method didn't just do 1 instance of copy/paste. To paste the same copied step across multiple steps require a copy each time right before the paste. And if you Copy a step then decide to not paste, that copy will live in that buffer. So If you then make a bunch of changes to a step a minute later and go to copy it, you'll accidentally paste the step from earlier :/
@@RickyTinez Yeah they needed a dedicated Paste button instead of the same button for both. Personally I feel like they could have used the MFX buttons to have shift + copy/paste functions. Wait until you want to initialize a pattern, because there isn't a method to make a pattern shorter after you duplicate it. THAT is a wonky key combo.
Thanks for this - weird that it isn't in the manual (at least I couldn't find it in there). Roland manuals have improved a lot in recent years IMO (I wonder if anyone remembers the horrors of the MX-1 manual from a decade ago), but it's frustrating that they are still leaving some things out
This could all change in a firmware update.
@@Decoy303 While it could, and I hope it does, Roland doesn't seem to do a lot of updates with their Aira line from my experience. Maybe this will be different since it looks like it's selling very well.
i really appreciate seeing you learning the unit as you go, and sharing your frustration and talking through navigating the functions the way most of us do with our gear. thank you.
i haven't watched tutorial/gear demo videos for a few years because i've found them to be increasingly longer (even with time stamps i find them quite overwhelming), but somehow folks are talking faster and faster to try an cram every feature into the walk-through. mad respect to those who do it for a living and have spent years honing their skills. i just personally prefer shorter, less "polished" and more authentic presentations.
Hi Ricardo, the quantise 70% is to cater for when you play the note early, then it moves it forward to the beat. If you set it to 99%, it will work great every time you are late hitting the pad, but if you ever hit it too soon, it will move it to the next step. I hope that makes sense.
aaahhhhhh, I guess I never thought about it until now haha. Maybe 80% might be the move going forward for me!
@@RickyTinez unless you always hit the pad later than the beat and never before. Que sigas bien :)
Whenever new gear like this comes out I always just think about how wonderfully intuitive Circuit Tracks/Rhythm are and just stick with them.
Not if you're colorblind like me 😅
It also makes me think that Novation really missed a trick by not including a mic and or mic input on the Circuit Rhythm.
novation should take the same UI and make "machines" like elektron.
Each track can be a synth or a sample player.
If they want to cut on processor, just allow three synths at the time.
Make a little hold toggle to preview knob values on the pads like tempo or swing.
Thats all they have to do for an instant money grab from me.
I wish they at least had a little OLED screen
Circuit Rhytm is great ❤
Because I know my way around the S-1, the P-6 workflow seems to have a decent amount of overlap. That's not saying it's intuitive - Elektron machines blow it out of the water in that department. But hey, for $220 it seems like a fun enough machine, and the granular engine and multiFX are unique additions that makes it stand out to me despite its shortcomings.
oh yea, that granular engine needs to be its own mini synth! its so dope. $220 reaaallllyyy hard to beat.
A lot of people complaining in here, and they haven’t even used it. Most stores have a decent return policy. If you’re interested, buy it. If you don’t like it, return it, it’s that simple. I bought one and it quickly became my favourite piece of sampling gear at the moment.
HOT TIP: If you own a MPC Live 2 on a stand and own a Decksaver for it, this (and All Aira compacts) fit in that indentation on the Decksaver perfectly. Got my P6 today. Feels great
Man, I pounced on this thing so fast because I liked the idea of leaving my 404mkii in the studio and carrying this around instead, but now that I have it I can't make heads or tails of it...?
It's a blast for sure, I've fallen into some really cool jams with it so far, but I am chewing through this sample pad real estate so fast. The game you start playing in your head of "am I going to mess up another pattern if I use this sample?" gets very frustrating very fast, and while resampling is an awesome feature it is only so useful when you have such limited storage to work with.
The screen and the shortcuts are also pretty rough. I have an S-1 and the screen/shortcuts don't bother me so much on that, but with samplers and granular synthesis it really helps to have more visual feedback. Fiddletown is accurate!
You can do some seriously cool stuff with this, but I can't escape the feeling that it's mostly designed to compel people to upgrade to a 404, which I already have. If you could do projects on this, and if it had a 2-line OLED screen, and a slot for even just a 2 GB sd card, this would instantly be more usable.
I must admit I was tempted, but seeing this just made me appreciate my MC-101 even more.
“Learning new things is hard”. Tell me about it dude! I got my first drum machine in 1989 and immediately set into a workflow of recording rhythms with the pads. Then I started writing music with a guy who asked “why don’t you use one of your keyboards to record drum tracks?” A few years later, I met another guy who called my drum machine a groove box and I was like “huh?” Another guy brought over an Elektron, “who?” Learning new things as hard. 😂
Hahahaha!
Looks like the prefect blend of fun and sheer frustration. Not for me, but pretty amazing what you get for the doe. I just come here for Ricky's dope jams. I find most synth TH-camrs try to push the boundaries of their devices which often results in some wierd kind of cosmic ego cheese, but Ricky keeps it spacious and musical.
This is definitely one of your best videos. You are an incredible inspiration.
haha! thanks for the kind words
It’s nice to watch you giving those new toys a try. It’s always fun 👍🏻 And, I can also see that the P-6 is a lot of fun, too. IF you don’t own a SP, KO2, SmplTrek, Tracker Mini, etc., then I can even see it’s really useful and JUST 229 bucks. Otherwise it isn’t cheap at all, but simply not as expensive as a DT, MPC, M+, etc.
Feel like Ricky’s videos are the only thing keeping me interested in music production
My man! thank you for the kind words
meaning you r just as dumb as he is...🤣😂
First review with some real reactions, thank you
Love your approach of showing the device by making beats on them. Which I find more intuitive then just touring the device or just making beats. Some of the best content on TH-cam
Thanks! bullet sheets are fine, but can I use it to make a track is what I wanna know!
Ricky beating Bad Gear guy to the punch.
LOL no way. He can’t be beaten
@RickyTinez in this case, he was. I was wondering when you would get your hands on this
@@sawtooth808No, he wasn’t. This week he had the P-6 we have at home 😁
@@pirateradioFPV LOL
Ticked all the boxes.
“Fiddletown”🕺🏾 you sound so defeated when you say it😅 love your vidz. Keep on keepin on👊🏾
"Fiddle-town" really puts my relationship with some Roland devices into perspective.
Often I feel like I'm dealing with a bunch of isolated features that were crammed into the box (at different times). If you stay within one feature-space/mode you'll probably be ok, but trying to work across multiple features will be a frustrating journey of unclear key combos and inconsistent behaviors.
I’d love to see a p6 vs. circuit rhythm vs. ep-133 video someday. Battle of the budget sp’s!
First version of this video disappeared WHILE I was watching it, and I couldn't help but imagine it was the _Roland SWAT Team_ bursting through Ricky's roof
The Roland SWAT team is buckling up for a bust in Vienna at Florian‘s Bad Gear editing studio
@@el_dani Haha!
hahaha! OPEN UP!
he is clearly looking for a Roland check
I don't know where fiddle town is but I feel like I'm always there... Thanks Ricky!
and we are back to fiddle town 😂
One way ticket baby hahaha
one of the best gear review channel
This reminds me the first time Ricky played with the E.P 133 K.O 😂
It sounds like a great entry sampler and looks good but I need more visuals and less button diving so the BlackBox & BitBox are still my favourite. Thanks Ricky
I think the quantize timing feature is really nice to adapt the quantize function to your style of playing. I know some people who usually play rather too early, for those it could be good to set this to 70%. I get the feeling that they implemented a ton of features like this that really make sense if you think about it, but might seem not very intuitive because we are not used to the feature or the way it is implemented from other machines.
I feel that, I pushed it to 80 since I'm usually late and it's been pretty good after that! -- I was just more surprised that I never noticed a want for customization on my quantize on other devices haha. It's never crossed my mind that "this quantization is weird"
Its always interesting to me, when i see roland "groovebox" type demos, or even roland marketing, that the choice of genre is usually something "4 on the floor" and synth based, when virtually EVERYONE I know personally, who uses these "types" of machines, aa well as the "gawds" who initally made them, and their workflow, "FAMOUS"...makes some kind of (usually vinyl) sample based, "hiphop" or "boom bap", "lofi" etc....using all of the grimy effects and funky swing functions, or, the un quanitized re-sample method. I feel like thats where these types of sanplers shine, and it always strikes me as and odd, and somewhat frustrating choice, when im trying to decide if a given new roland product is something I want. I know they arent technically in the same space, but take akai for instance. People use Mpcs for ALL kinds of stuff, various genres, but when they release sumn new? You can bet you are going to see guys making sample based "hiphop" beats, right off the bat, in any review or demo. Roland, on the other hand, i believe, thinks "edm" is "cooler" and has a broader (i.e. whiter) appeal, so likes to pretend thats all thats being made with their machines......its kind of silly ro me. It was that way with the mk2....all the roland demos were "boots and pants" when they know DAMN well the first thing 75% of people who bought it, took it home and sampled a record and chopped a break beat. Just kind of silly.
Huge fan of your channel btw...in spite of the rant. It's like ASMR sometimes...lol..very chill and calming, and you are a great "instructor"
It makes the SP-404 workflow seem graceful.
"Expectations are the thief of joy!" Ahahaha! xo
If this was made by some niche modular company everyone would say its the best thing since sliced bread, because Roland make it its pure dirt.
Exactly. If Teenage Engineering did it, it would cost $800 and everyone would love it. Lol.
Teenage engineering made this and it’s a million times better than this Roland copied teenage engineering and didn’t even come close to it
Yea probably haha, I've seen a lot fly for smaller companies. Interesting to think about! Not to mention patience on updates or bug fixes
@@TripwelleverdayI would say it's closer to the model: samples with granular, but pocket sized.
@@TripwelleverdayWhat teenage engineering sampler did Roland copy? Roland has been making samplers since the 90's
Haha I felt the same about the 404ii, it was such a steep learning curve. The MV1 too in a completely different way (terrible pads, barely up to push 1 standard was a huge factor), definitely a Roland thing! Epic once you figure them out, but wow. The new 404 update is the biz, wonder if there's an Mv1 update, tho I doubt it.
I still like my Verselab MV-1.
I have the J-6 from this line of Roland and let me tell you, someone at that company forgot the basics of sequencing and they are still scrambling to find someone that can figure that one out. In fact, I ended up hooking my J6 through MIDI and use the Deluge to trigger the notes. More convenient.
And yes, it can be worked and you can make stuff, but damn... too many quirks!
Yeah I feel you, the J-6 is my least favourite of the Aira Compacts
When you played the sample chromatically at 4:40 i felt like the transposing of the notes sounds better than on my digitakt 2
always a pleasure watching your vids
So happy I saw this cause if YOU are having this many issues then there’s no hope for me. It made me realize I need to stick with all the livens i have as well as my uno synth pro x!!
Great video. Love your dog !
And thank you!! I think Casio needs to make a 2024 sk-1 and maybe that will be in my mental wheelhouse lol 😂
I find learning ANYTHING Roland is tough. It's like they make shit purposely hard to use. That being said, I'm gonna buy this.
Thanks for the video as always sir! If I’m honest, this one seems like a bummer
I applaud Ricky for not joining the influencer ‘every new sampler is the best ever until the next one comes along’ crowd.
At the same time: he did a similar video on the isla s2400 in which the workflow looked awful. I have few samplers which are as intuitive as the s2400 after getting to know it. I’ll just try this one out and see how it feels.
they are paid for that, clearly Roland didn't send any $$$ for this great little machine
hard to say since i don't have it yet, but it reminds me of the 303/505 workflow just by watching others go it at, and having USB/audio passthrough? no brainer. even if i just put it at the end of a po-33 chain for FX.
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God damn I envy you so much. I live in Czech and I ordered it in Germany but even them will have it in like 6 weeks or so. Damn you logistics!!
Dobry den mate, I used to live in the Czech Republic about 16 years ago, awsome people and a beautiful country
@@valley_robot Holly crap. Dobrý den to you too my dude. Glad you enjoyed your stay. Wish you all the best.
that remind me some old Rick Wade on Harmony Park :-)
oooo wow what a compliment! Thank you!
Thanks, always learn stuff here - great channel
Gas is real
One way ticket to fiddle town 😅
And here i was thinking this will be more direct and intuitive than my sp4040 mk2 lol
Yeahhhh, looks like fun 😅
Brother! I love your vids! Laidback, full of info, entertaining!! But at what 3:50 or so I am already tempted to close the video. I so wanted to love this, been desperate to find "exactly that" cheap Sampler WITH a mic!! Well turns out not exactly...when I saw how many buttonsI have to press, whatz more, REMEMBER)!) to copy ONE step!? I thought nah! I've bought so many cool looking pieces of gear from Roland over the years S-50/ MC-500... all sold coz of that dangin menu diving. Heck itz not even diving, LOL! The Wavestation is diving and guess what I know it almost inside out. EASY! This here, never gonna work... so frustrating. I thought thatz the one! 😂😆🤣
Appreciate this channel🙏💯💯
There wasn't any point in this video where this looked like a worthwhile purchase.
How does this compare to the 1010 Blackbox if i don't care about the price difference?
Just wanted to note that it looks like those particular 3.5mm to dual 1/4” TS female adapter cables appear to be the “Hosa YMP-137 3.5 mm TRS to Dual 1/4" TSF Stereo Breakout Cable”. These are also useful for the Centrance Bouncer and TE TX-6 or anything else where you’re running line-level stuff with 3.5mm.
I'm waiting for mine. I use samplers simply and mostly work with breaks and loops, so I don't foresee any problems for me and how I work. It can do many things I always wished my 303 could, so. Shame it has no card storage tho.
Surely no one in 2024 really wants to menu dive using a 7 segment display? I would pay $50 extra for a small OLED... in my mind, if a manufacturer sets out to create a complex musical tool for artists to get value from, either provide 'nob per function' or an informative OLED display.
Anyway, love the vids, esp how you film your learning process. Thats important and sets your vids apart.🙏
That's what I wonder too, like realistically how much more would it have cost to put a Nice screen? on the surface, maybe its just another $2 for the part, but then the coding and R&D to make it work with the system costs something too? But I'm with you! If the screen was like the Smpltrek or something I'd pay $299
@@RickyTinez yep. You got it man. So now we await the P-6 mk2... which of course will have a mini OLED display and true aux bus architecture based solely on this exact YT comment string. Haha
Go well.
Most important argument against it. By the time I've pressed (I stopped at) 6 buttons to copy one step the vibe has looong gone out the window...
fiddle town - lol . I'll bet you get a lot of x band musicians like me looking to make music with things like this, at 68 years old ,I ask what can I get to sample things, add drums loops , finish Something easy ? I may have been left behind . in 1990 I had an early version of performer a 900 page midi set up , you had to strike 0ne track of an 8 track tape recorder with a sympte code !! I remember selling it all buying a guitar and writing the rough outlines to an 8 song album . your vid is great and funny thanks
Does the Aira line sound slightly muffled or just me?
Really appreciate you letting us in on your dive into the P-6. It helps to see a musician going through steps both forward and backward as you figure it out.
But man! Music makers should not HAVE to do support or become pro troubleshooters.
Sadly, as much as i enjoy learning all the things a new instrument can do, i no longer have the patience to battle a non-intuitive interface to learn what should have been better documented. I just want to enjoy the process and have somethjng i am pleased with at the end.
Looks like too many pitfalls where you could lose your work, or fatally break part of the track you’re assembling. Deep menus should be accompanied by tutorials from the manufacturer.
An Undo of the last action taken would have been an amazing feature.
Thank you for the video!
I feel you, I'm hitting that point where I just want my tools to speed up my process. OR be so creative and sound unique that I'm willing to put up with it. The P-6 will probably stick around because of how easy it is to sample and resample at lower audio rates. plus the gradual is cool, but as a single machine can't do it.
I spent most of my weekend trying to find one of these in a guitar center. It looks like it has a weird learning curve but I'm mostly into it for the granular.
Did you manage to get one?
The polyphonic sampling is cool
You might have already disclosed this information, but what set of headphones are those?
Such a chilled dog dog ❤️
Love Roland’s sound. Hate Roland’s ui. What’s new lol. That being said love my s-1 for the size and assuming this is just as easy to use once ya learn it… may grab one of these at some point lol.
Ricky, great stuff! I realize use cases vary ergo, studio, live, etc.
I'm in the market for a sampler. Before Roland dropped the P-6 I had been considering grabbing a Blackbox.
Since you have fingered them both, I'd like to know your thoughts, and preference between the two. ✊🏽😏
I wonder if maybe plugging in external audio disables resampling as well as the mic? It seems weird to implement fixed measures just for resampling.
How about getting a Blackbox?
Wow thst COPY/PASTE is mad 😂
Octatrack users will be happy…as soon their beloved sampler will be considered easy-to-use!
I don't know why he chose to show copy/paste that way, but that's really not how you copy/paste on the P6. You just hold the step and press shift+copy and then the same to paste.
LOL!
It’s cool and priced well.. but it’s hard to compete with the sampling apps available on iOS (like Koala Sampler)
So glad your actually showing how crappy this really is you really can make the pos jump the sound is what really killed it for me it’s just so bad how they would actually let something this bad actually out it’s just shows how Roland is just gone down the drain from the Jupiter to this what in the world happened musta been the ceo that said they’ll never chase the ghosts of the past ….. when the Japanese proverb is if u don’t respect the past you will doom the future
It sounds fantastic... there are many gripes to be had with this machine, but the sound isn't one of them
When are they going to make the aira. K25. Style keyboard like on the boutique ones .. it would be good or maybe a midi / step sequencer because the keys look small
Life is to short for complicating things😅
I would love for someone to make hardware that’s as fun, easy, and quick to use as Koala Sampler, but it just hasn’t happened yet. Until then, it’s the iPad/Iphone for me.
Hi hawkeye! 💜
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I've read through the manual twice now and also going back and re-read stuff while looking for functionality and you keep showing key combinations that the manual never mentions
LOL the manual is DEEP, and mentions a lot. and people are STILL telling me about shortcuts that aren't even in there!
Hear me out: One P-6 per song.
Haha! That’s the reason I’m not buying this thing. If I don’t have a quick way to export my songs they never see the light of day.
Yea that's my big "boo" with this thing. I will say having that many sample slots does help big time. but it gets really hard to start keeping track after 2 tracks lol
That sums up the main flaw, would be cool if they add an sd card on the next incarnation like with the circuit tracks eventually.
One-way-ticket to fiddle-town sounds kinda sketchy 😅 But also kinda sounds like it could be a jazz standard. Probably not gonna be in any Roland marketing though 😂
cool video, what is your synth draw? is that custom or you can buy that somehwere?
Why doesn’t Roland say what the bit rate is anywhere? Anyone know what it is? I use their bit crusher in Zenology and worried that’s really all they put in here. Not that it’s bad, but I already have the plug-in. I was hoping this would be a more refined version of the Microgranny.
Bought a Lofi 12 XT with recent 1.2 update instead. Twice the money but 20x the functionality and no free trip to "fiddle town" lol.
From a marketing selling point i get it, that almost every little Aira box has a sequencer built in, so it can be a mini groove box. When will there be a sampler that just samples (and does that with a good amount of memory, sample slots, adjustable parameters) for a reasonable price which you can sequence with a (again) standalone hardware sequencer, a mini Oxi One. It’s the combination of all the things the box has to do that makes it hard to do. Again, it’s probably not a profitable marketing point of view, but if i could be Roland, i would have skipped the sequencer out of the J-6, P-6, T-8 and S-1, and manufactured a Aira sequencer (Q-1 ?). Because i think most musicians will use these Aira devices as an add-on to their setup. I’ve had the J-6 by the way, invested in an Oxi One.
This thing looks like a nightmare to try to actually use as your one and only, but some of the features would be great to resample into something else.
That's why I'm keeping it. the resampling and sampling at low rates is SO EASY. not to mention the granular stuff.
P6 vs Circuit Rhythm for Jungle breaks?
Keeping it or returning?
I’ll be using my Keystep instead of those buttons. What is strange is that the PO’s waste their display on childish graphics instead of pertinent information and the Roland doesn’t have the capability to give you that information. Still a neat box though.
Ricky I love your content, bud, but this video is activating tinnitus. Some kind of electronic wine throughout.
Cool to see you using it though! I’ve got one on the way, but I get the issues with how Roland designs UI. I’ve got zero samplers right now so I’m looking forward to playing with this little cheapish guy.
It’s like we went backwards from the ko2
Ko walks circles around this
It’s almost like it’s 80 dollars cheaper
@@rotisseueryu price has nothing to do with user interface
Roland version of Model:Samples... sequencer capabilities tho?
Fiddle Town 😂 Thanks man. I hate all the fiddling crap. It’s not for me. Cheers
can we talk about the big mistake the engineers made when they put the knob below the display instead of above it. every time your twiddling with the knob you have to lean forward to be able to see what the display says behind your fingers and the knob so you can figure out what menu your dialing through or what value you're applying etc
Putting above it your hand gets in the way too though haha
yea UX is a tricky tricky area. Especially in devices this small! Then you start getting into all the street fighter combos
@@RickyTinez I think it could have been interesting if the step buttons had three different color lights inside of them to let you know what mode you are in or what sort of data was on each of the steps
Below the screen is 100% a better design choice than above
@@J-Hz idh about that... if i reach over and twiddle the knob, i can still clearly see the TEMPO/VALUE label. i'm pretty sure it would be an improvement to have switched the display and the knob around.
one of these days we are going to need a magnifying glass for all these new gadgets
Already do for the Teenage Engineering TX-6!
lol..... Roland products have a history of being overly complicated but I digress
Hahaha!
Reaches for shaker…Noooooo! It should be kalimba 😂
loool
Could you mod one of these to have the little OLED screen like the Deluge?
I don't think a user mod would be possible. I think the best we can hope for is an MK2 version from Roland with an OLED screen. Or some kind of new box that combines the best features of this and the 404 MK2
Watching a video of someone using a Roland instrument lowers your IQ by 50.
Getting a Roland instrument and reading the manual raises your IQ by 50
Roland has us playing a zero sum game 😎
I could be happy with just the p6 and the j6
That's a powerful combo!