Preliminary Trial and Testing The Webasto Airtop 2000 being fitted in my Citroen Ami
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- Preliminary Trial and Testing The Webasto Airtop 2000 being fitted in my Citroen Ami
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Nice to see you are progressing your hobbyist ideas on the vehicle. Will be interesting to see how durable that heating system is in a tiny car bouncing around the roads in Preston. Practically how are you going to refill the diesel tank for the heater.. clearly it’s not accessible with the back panel on.
Those heaters produce a lot of heat so your car will get warm but as there is little insulation in the Ami that heat will quickly get lost but I guess for your short journeys that’s not so bad.
An interesting hobbyist project but even in a warmer Ami i’m not convinced the vehicle would be usable 12 months of the year.
Good luck nice to see your ideas coming to fruition.
Interesting to see the result thank for sharing. I think a second battery with an isolator for the Webasto would be a good addition, and you could likely use something like an inexpensive 20amp or less bridge rectifier with in inline protection fuse rather than a large and heavy vehicle isolator. I located a relatively affordable lithium iron phosphate battery that's the same form-factor as the OEM Ami Battery for Tim in France. I seem to recall it was 2X the capacity and half the weight so that might be enough to run the heater for a while, but of course once the 12V AMI battery is flat, you're not going anywhere without a jump.
In regards to steaming up, and de-misting the windscreen, as the cabin heats up, your moisture may condense on the cold windows, and I wonder if bringing in fresh air from outside might help in flushing moisture out of the cabin.
I know on my Toyota, if I set the the the cabin air to recirculate without using the air conditioning compressor to dehumidify the air, and run full heat on the windscreen, as the cabin heats up, all that moisture condenses on the windscreen but if I set the cabin air to bring in outside air it forces the moisture out. but if I run the heater on the floor or panel vents and not the windscreen it fogs badly. If you decide to go with the hot-air duct to the windscreen, perhaps restricting the flow to the rear hot air inlet wold help divert some more air forward.
great info thanks
For charge/discharge control, you need a DVSR or VSR relay, commonly used in boats.
When the car is charging, the 2 batteries are connected in parallel (when over 12.8 V) and when charging stops, it disconnects the two batteries, so the heater runs only on the auxiliary battery, and can never drain the original battery.
I would recommend feeding the heater with outside air, otherwise you will have condensation problems, as there will be nowhere for the humidity in the air to escape.
The difference in heating will be negligible anyway.
thanks will be trialling it in the outside world soon, so expect a sudden heatwave
I don’t suppose you’ll know if the screen is kept clear until next autumn.
Have you explained how you’ll top up the diesel tank? Will be interesting to see what the diesel usage will be.
Then after your trials are complete, how much your friend will charge to fit the system in to more Amis.
well i think it may be cost prohibitive to most Ami owners, but at this moment in time i just intend to keep mine, so nxt step leather seats and a headlining too
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No harm is trying the setup the way that it currently stands. If it doesn't work as you expect then you've lost nothing because adding ducting to the front is ancillary to what you have and not rework..
im thinking of splitting the Air flow from the vent and taking the ducting of the frame to the roof and putting an adjustable vent on to point the heat forward towards the windscreen but across the side windows as taking it to the front via another route would require smaller ducting which in turn may overheat the webasto and cause it to switch off
I think reheating I.e. taking heat from the vehicle is SOO much overkill just run a 2KWChinese diesel heater straight into the back of the cab, would more than enough.
An additionally battery for the heater is essential as it draws a large current to fire it up and the 12V battery fitted to the Ami may not be capable of doing both.
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The Ami won’t drive without its 12V battery,I don’t know how the fitted Ami battery is charged, I assume it happens when it’s plugged in, if that is the case, will the fitted system allow another battery to now charge a second backup?
Further more the fuel tank needs to be safe as far as a rear end crash is concerned ?
its diesel not petrol, its actually quite hard to ignite diesel, even with a naked flame
Citroën marketing meeting "guys and girls how can we sell a vehicle that is cheap to make and we can charge a ridiculous high price for even if it doesn't actually do many of the basics functions of a cheap run about'
Le voilà, le Citroën Amy
it was a great inspired meeting, i love mine its brilliant