We take Citroen Ami battery to ZERO to see how slow Turtle Mode really is!
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- We take Citroen Ami battery to ZERO to see how slow Turtle Mode really is! On Villefranche beach
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The sea is a beautiful blue ,magical.
It was a proper Azur day!
How much do dead/flat batteries cost?
Nothing. They're free of charge.
good one
The fastest way to charge a flat battery is with a jumper cable and a car. Usually works. Sometimes a truck or a tow truck is needed to jump start the battery when its drained. Cheaper and more reliable than charging with a solar power brick and you can get a full charge typically
within minutes.
I may have a much cheaper version Norman!
@@NormanF62 Very dangerous. charging battery may explode, current may melt jumper wire or your hands may be burned in a second.
@@NormanF62 And also AMI battery is NOT 12 or 24V. You need an inverter anyway.
As always! Breaking new ground.... Fearless! Now I have range anxiety too😫
That was a rather crazy early experiment!
I think you boys could make like a hood ( elasticated) in this material to cover up the roof and windows.
Just spoken to Ami UK (29/09/2022 1120hrs BST) and we will hear two weeks before delivery to pay the balance and do the driving licence checks etc.
Excellent!
That will have given you a lot of confidence about driving until its 3km.
Absolutely!
Understandably a bit stressful but nevertheless a useful experiment in how far you can push things and what happens when you go to far. We’ve all done it with petrol cars running on the fuel warning light when we can’t find a petrol station 🙄.
Yup it’s made me feel much more certain of ‘how low I can go’ etc
Gills pome
Come rain or shine mon Ami is fine,
C'est bon c'est beau
Il vole comme un oiseau.
They call him an ugly duckling
mais c'est beau, c'est bon !
He is my beautiful bleu swan
Lovingly made for two
as I have my own Mr Boo %-)
(even tho' delivery has more delays 😚)
Love this!
Turtles are a pretty successful species!
The first ones evolved 220 millions ago when there were still dinosaurs around. No dinosaurs anymore, but turtles are still going strong (though a bit slow 😉)
True!
@@MeandMonAmi Like sharks, they look nearly the same as their ancestors did back then, just smaller. I guess they have simply found a niche in the Darwinian circus, they occupy so perfectly that they cannot be driven out.
Somehow the Citroin Ami has found a niche in the tough car market as well, let's see if he will be around for many years to come without huge changes, although i guess that with the dynamics of industry we will see an Ami II in the next years...
A brilliant experiment guys. Definitely pushed the anxiety button! Hope you got home ok. 🙂
We did thanks Andrew.
Maybe Citroen don't display a turtle because it's customers can't tell the difference between a turtle and a tortoise. Remember the parable of the tortoise and the hare? Turtles exist under water and Elton would not fare so well. The video of an animal you showed so many times was definitely a tortoise and not a turtle.🐰
But he moves so beautifully!
Aesop’s fable has always a struck me as a good lesson that victory in life doesn’t always go to the swift. Elton isn’t a rabbit but he’s very dependable and as long as his autonomy range is respected, he delivers!
Really that’s exactly what any device does if you run the battery totally down, ok a phone usually starts charging again after about 5 mins but considering your car battery is much bigger than any phone.. it makes sense for it to take longer. The slow start is to protect your battery.
Yup I think that may have been what happened in our case but I won’t be rushing to do it again!
I bravely (read stupidly) decided to do this to my LEAF. Doing lap after lap around the block. Took a lot long than expected, as you found out, but eventually I got bored and at 0.4Kw on the screen I reversed onto my drive and that was the last it would do. It's then I realised that if I had broken down any earlier or had carried on going, I would of needed a very long extention lead. Great video as always guys.
Thanks. Yes I only dared to do it as we had a power station with us.
Bit disappointed no Tortoise mode, but probably safer! That Bluetti is a life saver! Brilliant. Another great video, thanks boys!
Thanks. Yes we wanted to see the turtle light up but I’m guessing that was the turtle speed
Oooh the tension….although Elton did keep going rather well until the inevitable which seemed surprisingly quick. That generator is an absolute must and has proven its worth, a good investment.
You make such entertaining and well produced vlogs/programmes/posts whatever they’re called. Looking forward to your next adventure 😁
Thanks Nick. We definitely feel better knowing that the 10km warning sign leaves us a fair bit of wriggle room
It seems, that you have to turn the ignition off, in order to start charging. From the manual: "Apply the parking brake. Switch off the ignition (position 1); the READY warning lamp goes out."
No Turtle! What a gyp! You need to write a stern email to Citroen. They didn't include the free Turtle! Another fun video (at least for those of us watching!) and mid-week too! Thanks for sacrificing our time for Science. Now on to Sunday!
Steady on. I’ve only just got the sunday roughs in one folder!;
as always, valuable information for the ami buyers. thank you so much! the combination with the bluetti seams to be a fruitful one.
Yes though other brand are very much available and we’ve some others coming along I hope!
Dirty Turtie, I laughed my ass of! 🤣
Your channel has the feel good factor😄
Thanks Leslie. It wasn’t how were were feeling when we thought we’d blown the battery!
This is my favorite youtube channel at the moment. I dont really know why, but this is so fun to watch hahaha. I'm watching every video
That’s a lovely thing to say!
You can see the frustration growing😀
Good video guys,very interesting 👍
Thanks
Another good fun video, really enjoying the content. As an ev driver I sometimes share your experiences!. FYI the 1st Ami UK delivery took place today look forward to following his experiences here in the UK.
yup Gary!
Just had a wee look at the user manual online. For the red triangle, it says "A serious fault has been detected. You must stop the vehicle." 😲 For the turtle symbol it says "A drop in performance ... due to a low battery temperature". Maybe not something you'd experience in the Riviera!
I’m rather glad I didn’t know that at the time!
Stressful viewing indeed. These videos are shortening my life. Please can we have another one with Mr Boo dancing at a drag night, or possibly Halloween sleeping peacefully (yes, for the whole video). Thanks!
Love the view
I'm wearing my Evil Elli pantomime villain costume ["Boooo! Hiss!"] as I write this on a channel devoted to an electric vehicle: One good thing about an ICE car is the ease with which range can be extended. Carrying a couple of gallons of spare petrol in the boot is always an option.
I lived in East Africa for a few years [my dad was with the Flying Doctor Service in Kenya], and the Land Rovers there took range anxiety seriously; they all had permanent mountings for four 5 gallon jerrycans.
Getting stranded out in the bush was not to be recommended (no mobile phones to call for help in the 1980s), so carrying fuel and water was essential when faced with MAMOBA (Miles And Miles Of Bl**dy Africa).
The cans were only filled for long journeys (but it was considered good form always to carry a bit of emergency fuel to help out strangers in trouble - and what goes around, comes around🙂).
Lugging the extra weight certainly had an impact on fuel economy; ironically, the fuel shortened your range whilst at the same time extending your range... 🤔
Fab I can see him now in it!
The Bluetti still got you out of trouble though, even though it started slowly. As others have suggested, probably a battery protection ‘feature’ I got one of the little EB3As and already love it :)
Yes I think it was battery protection. You were fast in yeh EB3A
@@MeandMonAmi I got it the same day you reviewed it! Very happy with it
the bluetti would give much more , the onboard charging system of the ami did not allow full transfer in this situation, seems to be a battery saving measure
I've also read the alternative term 'limp mode'. I think your featured tortoise is cute so 'tortoise mode'. We don't want a limp Elton 😳
Limp mode! Consider that stolen
My heart was in my pants 😅
awwww i wanted to see the turtle.... but it was a strange choice of aquatic creature! we find in our Renault Zoe, the acceleration speed drops off when the car gets under 20% ... the lowest we ever got was a round trip to Bordeaux airport, returning home with less than 10% remaining juice....but we made it. i remember someone tested the zoe on empty and it did another 30miles! hope Elton liked his top off.
That’s interesting. I think we got more than 10km out of our last 10k
Well as Clint Eastwood said in the Dirty Harry films...""A man must know him limitations" & that goes for the Elton too🤣 a very good
review with a difference 👌 excellent vlog by you two as always...I think you & Mister Boo ate becoming celebrity status 😆😆
Thanks David.
Thanks for another charged episode. Turtle didn't appear but the car moved like a Tortoise. Only waking up with a Boo. Left at a cliff hanger or small step onto the beach. Anyway how was the Sandwich... Great video😂
I know it was all done under carefully controlled, laboratory conditions but god that was stressful! 😂 And poor Mr Boo having to push Elton at the end. The shame! 🤣
The science Ewan!
Lovin you guys , watching in southwest 🇬🇧
Thanks Antonio
@@MeandMonAmi Please keep the great videos coming , I’m very impressed with the production of the great videos you produce and very much appreciate both of you time and hard work involved in filming them .
It's good to test absolutes....and know you can recover.....next time you see the orange..you will know there is quite a long reserve....Elton has a lot of stamina...a lot more than I expected....like most batteries its really not not a good idea to do this too often!.....you are very brave...cheers
I kind of realised that I out cafe meltdown.. anyway at least we know 10km only left is quite a lot. Used to terrify me..
Great video very informative did you take a note of the km covered and the total that was indicated on the dash.
Thanks. Yes if anything we got more than indicated out of it but we were on the level
Shame there was no turtle warning light. Turtle is the main branch and Tortoises are a side branch from them in evolutionary terms. So all tortoises are turtles, but not the other way round🐢!
Didn’t know that!
Once again another great video, just wondered if you took note of how many miles you managed between the various amber then red then no power? If not Mr Boo was videoing and maybe checking out the video could give you those figures to share with other potential owners!
Amber kicked in at 11 and we certainly had more than 11 before totally flat but we were on the flat
Hello friends , heureusement que vous l'avez vite remis en charge car une batterie lithium qui descend a 0% peut être irrémédiablement endommagée merci pour vos partages vous êtes super ! Thank's a lot
Very interesting, thank you. Perhaps Turtle mode is when it no longer gives you the full 28 mph. Another thought, perhaps with such a low charge the BMS was delicately balancing all the cells. A bottom balance. Just a guess. It was rather stressful to watch. I am pleased that Elton recovered, eventually.
Us Too. Won’t be trying it again intentionally!
Interesting - thanks for that ... Eric in Germany is great ... helped with advice on powerbanks and panels ... my Ami del’vy now put back to mid Oct from what was today shortly to send drivers licence to Citroen on e mail fir registration process. Bill in Seaford. Sussex
Sounds like you are getting near!
Good to know this, I have a lead date on my pop at 12th oct, from the sound of it may be delayed a couple of weeks
@@chatters7969 yes it seems a 2 week delay
Although the BMS battery management system will protect your battery emptying the battery completely will do terminal damage not something you would want to do. On a positive note best Citroen Ami real world test vids look forward to your next adventure .
Thanks Rhys. We will not be doing it again!
Maybe you can try a linear polarised filter on the camera the screen.
Rotating every 90 degrees will go between max and min reflection.
It is a nice trick to take pictures through windows to minimise reflection.
However if you are at bad luck, the reflections are at the same polarisation angle as the display, then you won't be able to remove the reflections.
Thanks Thorbjorn
I get warning normally under 8 km, but Turtle come normally when you are at 2 km or - - and when it is on - - you can drive additional 5 km
Thanks Eric. Weird we didn’t get turtle at all?
poor Mr. Boo with all the people looking.
no turtle mode at all, Elton just stops and that's it lol
It was a bit shaming though entirely self inflicted!
Now one thing that is most likely happening, when you flat out a battery it goes in "safe mode". You can't discharge a battery beyond it's capacity. To reset that safe mode, it first starts charging very slow. Then when you inplug the charger, wait a few minutes and replug it, the reset is done and the battery recovers and starts charging at full power. This happens with phones and powerbanks too. It might be something like this for the Ami too.
That was my guess but I was worried for a while. It’s functioned perfectly normally since. I still think we should have a had the turtle mode though
@@MeandMonAmi I thought the Ami flat out was Turtle mode!
I’ve run two of my Evs flat before. Once my Nissan leaf in the mountains and once my Hyundai Ioniq about 100 meters from the charger. I’m generally fairly calm about turtle mod unless of course I’m going uphill on the German autobahn with 2% and 4 kilometers to the charger 😂
I think we now know that on the level 10km left means just that
Another thought Tim, is at 12:00 in the video that the AMI's Battery Protection System cut power from the main battery completely, and that you also ran the the 12v Battery flat, and that 150W charge was a charge circuit for the 12V battery.
That’s what I think happened but can’t be sure
@@MeandMonAmi I don't know for sure but I don't think the 12V battery and the 48V battery "talk" to each other so I don't think you were driving even one centimeter using power from the 12V battery; the drain would be just too much and those battery leads would be dangerously taxed with all that current flowing through them for an extended period of time. I also don't think the 48V motive battery and the 12V accessory battery are in any way connected to each other otherwise, when the 48V was getting charged through the mains, the 12V would also be topped up, too, and again I don't think that is the case.
@@Park2King we certainly weren’t driving with any power from 12v battery but I wonder if the two talk to each other in terms of keeping the 12v topped up in normal circumstances?
Thanks for the informative test Tim. I just did a search for Citroen AMI and Twizzy for 'Turtle Mode' and apparently you are the only ones to have done a video about it. I also found no mention of 'Citroen Ami Turtle Mode' otherwise, so I question if there is an actual Turtle mode or the AMI simply drops to a point that the controller cuts not just cuts off power to protect the battery from damage, but you ran the main battery so low that controller shut down completely and with it not only the drive controller but the charge controller as well (Could they be one in the same?)
Another what I would more likely possibility is that the AMI Battery uses a separate BMS (Battery Management System) similar to solar and eBike battery systems that electronically disconnects the battery from the system absent of a separate low main battery voltage protection system, i.e 'Turtle Mode'. If that were the case typically what happens in something like an eBike is that, when the main battery voltage recovers above the BMS cut-off voltage the BMS switches the main output back on. Most good quality BMS units also have a separate circuit and cutoff for charging to protect from over-voltage and over-current charging.
The AMI's BMS may use only one cut-off circuit for both low voltage and charging protection so you loose both if you run it too low, but may have a simple and cheap trickle-charge bypass charger to get the main battery back to the point where the Main BMS switches back on.
If so, there may be no actually smart Turtle Mode but you start driving slower as the battery drops to the part of the discharge curve where available current drops dramatically. I think it would be helpful and informative to have a main battery volt meter to see how low your battery is actually going and to get some sense of State of charge and when you are going to shut-down.
I've been meaning to drop Andy Kirby on YT in the U.K. a message, about the he's done on his Twizzy, and the PowerBox accessory that plugs into the ODBII port and provides battery power data and can be use to increase performance, and I could also ask if his Twizzy has a Turtle mode, as the Twizzy and AMI appear to share similar electrics and systems.
There’s definitely a turtle mode and I’ve seen many French talk about going into it but I suspect largely in colder climates of the North last Winter
You guys, this video couldn't have come out at a more perfect time! I bought an Opel Rocks-E two days ago and had my first long ride with it. I have been worried about the range and turtle mode, since I'm still abit limited on where I can charge. This has eased alot of my anxiety! Now I'm sure I can make the drive to my family come friday!
I do still have a little question: is it normal for the car to sound like it has a fan on when it's charging?
No that’s the Bluetti fan!
@@MeandMonAmi Ah, no, I meant my car was making a slight fan noise while it was charging. Sorry for the confusion! I charged it from a normal plug, not a loading station.
Good to know the end point, 'turtle mode' when applied to EVs is kind of a general thing some do/did actually show a turtle - I'd take the red warning as 'turtle'. Can't help noticing the B-roll got a bit Scooby-Doo chase repeats with the man in the blue shorts.
That’s funny. I think the Ami is meant to show a turtle. I was gutted!
Hi guys, have you ever considered putting a mini wind generator on the roof connected to Elton's battery? In theory it should charge as you go...
You could charge the external power station but you can’t charge and ami and discharge at the same time
This doesn‘t work because of the second law of thermodynamics.
Great video! Did you deplete the Blueyetti battery? And how much of a charge did you get? I'm curious.
Yes in the Ac200 max video we made
duunnn dunnn... duuuunnnn duun... duuunnnnnnnn dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnn dunnnn .. Elton's revenge 😂😂😂😂
"Magical Turtle Moment" is a title looking for a prog album.
It has echo’s of Yellow Submarine?!
@@MeandMonAmi I believe it does
Apparently a leather-back sea turtle has been recorded travelling at 35km/h.
That’s insane!
I think before you had the car under load but on your experiment it wasn't really working that hard, hence you could take the battery lower. So in summary on the mountain you did go through all the stages but so quickly you didnt notice.
We definitely didn’t get a turtle on the mountain as we stopped before going into low speed mode.
To prevent battery damage all good chargers will trickle charge a dead flat battery, you can see this on ordinary lithium cell batteries if you charge a really flat one via a usb amp and volt display adapter. They will trickle down when nearly full also. If possible, never completely flatten a battery and if you do charge asap, also do not store for long periods fully charged (or empty). This will lengthen the service life of your battery considerably. Another thing is never ever charge a battery if it's really cold (like below freezing) unless your car is fitted with a battery pre warmer for such conditions. Batteries may have changed but this is what i am told for the batteries i use on my ebikes .
Yes I’ve never left my e bike battery flat for that reason
Had a look in the Ami manual about the Turtle symbol. It's supposed to come on when: the battery is low, when a drive issue occurs and maintenance is required, or when the battery temperature is too high. When you turn on the Ami, does the dashboard display test show the Turtle symbol (just below the battery warning symbol)?
Yes definitely comes on at the test stage Gary. I’ve read lots of posts from French drivers who’ve had turtle appear but I wonder if they were in colder climates?
I never let my iPad Mini run low! Keeping it plugged in kind of defeats its portability but then again, I don’t really need to take it anywhere. People in real life would never let their EV battery run out; being stranded isn’t their idea of a good time. Your experiment showed that the Citroen Ami can only go so far before its deadweight and I would say abusing the battery like that shouldn’t be a habit because that can shorten its life. It gave a good idea though of how much range can be expected from the Ami with a normal, daily driving routine.
It weird the full charge thing isn’t it?’
Well that didn't go quite as planned, I don't know how this adventure ended up! Was it finally charging again?
Yup
If AMI was called herbie the love bug it would go further
I loved Herbie!
If you conked at the top of a hill, I wonder if it would regen recharge on the way down
If you had some power in it, yes! See our regen video
Doing all the typical vlogger EV tests it seems. Range done! Drive until empty done! Only waiting for the 1000km in shortest time test... 😆
Ooh that’s a good idea!
in this case it is normal, it is like near the last 4 km then the loading is nearly similar
Hey guys! So I just got my Ami last Thursday. Should start by saying the service from Ami UK was dire... Car sat for a couple of weeks at local dealer who didn't know who the Ami was for... (I had to chase Citroen to ask where it was), still no orange pack, incorrect details, wrong information; pre-dated sales invoice, no online links worked so on phone many times, just awful as no-one would ever email back. Dealer even got the Ami delivered without a PDi so they had to prepare it themselves. No adapter to charge at home so awaiting cable from third party. I collected Ami with 3 miles on it and just got battery light on at 6 miles remaining and surprisingly reducing speed to about 13 mph after just 22 miles! (Total odometer reading is 25 miles) and already almost dead. I just drove around the village way below max speed, temp around 9 - 12 degrees. At this rate it won't work out as cannot make a 20 miles trip with confidence. Is this normal? I was super excited to get the Ami despite the massive price increase but the service so far and poor range has really made me consider giving it back. If it reduces down to 13 MPH at 6 miles it's 6 miles that are unusable. Maybe it just isn't suited to milder weather. Can't imagine it in zero degrees. So disappointed 😞Best wishes to you both!
That all sounds very frustrating. The range thing doesn’t sound normal. Has it improved?
@@MeandMonAmi Hey guys! Not really but fingers crossed it improves! My big issue is water on the floor when driving in rain. There's no sealant under door seals so water splashing in! It's been a slow start but can only get better! Keep up the great videos!
Have you found any dashboard solar cell that can add charge to the battery pls?
There isnt anything that would significantly impact the main battery, you might find something to charge peripherals but I’ve yet to be convinced it would be worth the faff
Why is Mr. Boo sitting so far back?
That’s how the seats are placed! Passenger seat doesn’t move
Another Interesting Episode. Not sure if it was Informative other than Never let the Battery go flat. Ha! Ha!
True Jamie!
Draining the battery completely is something that really should be avoided. Lithium battery technologies are very sensitive to over discharge, which causes irreversible damage to the chemistry of the cells on each occasion this happens. For longevity idealy the battery would only be drained to 30% and charged to 80% (high state of charge can also damaging). Vehicle manufacturers usually put a hiden bit extra % of batteries in to try an mitigate some of this type battery degradation so that the battery achieves it's expected life span.
In this instance it is lightly the battery charge level was so low the battery management system had kicked in, and the battery pack had to be carefully nursed safly to a point where it was able to detect that it would be safe to resume charging.
Thanks for the info
it is to warm, yesterday I get turtle at range of 21 km
Yikes
My AMI goes slow (around 17km/h) when have 7km range left. I think the first gen AMI's have different BMS setup from the AMI's 2gen.
Didn’t ours do much the same in this video?
Having an electric NIU moped (30mph) it warns at 20% then at 15% goes into ‘limp home mode’ 15mph. I suppose in your case with it having 4 wheels, it would be dangerous to just drop to 15mph, whereas on an EV scooter/moped you can just pull in more to let cars past
Yes though we did drop to 10mph
@@MeandMonAmi wow, is that because your Speedo is in kph? I live in Edinburgh and I stay away from Queensferry road - main route from North across the Forth Bridges and from down South England etc- goes right through the heart of Edinburgh. It’s a 40mph and I’ve done 20mph hoping to do the last 5mile on 18% it was friggin scary! Lorries galore. Edinburgh, like the rest of the U.K., is just fast driving and SUV daft. Our polo is 15 yrs old, done just over 31,000 mile and because of low usage, won’t put E5 in the tank because it’s more hygroscopic. So we put the ‘normal’ E10 in and from just over a 1/4 tank to full cost £58. Before all the garbage in life it was about £40 to £45
Did you learn to never go flat after this episod? The batteri is the most expensive part of a BEV and if the BMS ( battery management system ) doesn’t shut down the battery in time it can get permanently damaged or even kill it.
Well we won’t be doing it voluntarily again but actually it was good to know that when you have 10km left your really do have 10km left
Interesting that Ami takes 1744W when charging (Is that the max do you reckon?). My solar panels can do 2KW in clear sunshine.
I’ve seen it draw very close to 2000w but no more
Turtle mode is when the speed is limited, there is no mythical Turtle.
But doesn't it light up?
What a disappointment, no turtle on the screen ;-)
😄
I know right?!
Is it actually turtle mode or tortoise mode ?
Very good question. I think Turtle
It's actually Tortoise, but the Turtle moniker has stuck from the US market. Alas they often use the term Turtle for both animals despite their being different, as most Americans it is sad to say, can't tell the difference.
Thats not a turtle, its a tortoise !!
It’s true! Back to tortoise school for me
no French Car, Car comes from Marokko ;-)
Who did the original design? I kind of thought Citroen did that though?
Is that a turtle or a tortoise you keep showing?
I wonder Richard. It could be a very large tortoise I guess
i turtle lives in the sea, so it’s a tortoise
@@cosmodoc Maybe it popped ashore for provisions ?
Dirty turty 😅
You two boys don't know how much you have livened up a rather miserable summer for me. Carry on regardless. ps more Smut please! ps2 That Turtle you keep featuring is actually a Tortoise, it's probably having a gender Identity crisis right now. ps3 I'm also Cornish Motorcycle Diaries.
Thanks. I’ve mis-specied a Tortoise. Twitter will meltdown!
First sign of a turtles head and I drive faster 😫
Wise and with paper!?
So, IF you really want to see a turtle go to the Zoo. In this video we saw a turkey or two. PS Sorry I laughed at you.
So who’s the lucky winner?!
Comp still running.. will announce in a couple of weeks!
🐢🚙
How did you think 50W would be ok for charging?? Its not at all. You are not charging a laptop :)
It did charge though!
@@MeandMonAmi Obviously it does. but 5.5Kwh 5500W would require 110 hours of charging. You need something like 1000W output capable generator. Also an 200W solar panel would charge it up 25% on a day rest roughly. So why not put a solar roof on a roof rack? I am wondering if you can reach to DC input after first stage rectifier circuit directly so that charging from solar panel with a proper electronic circuit would be possible to make solar hybrid. cheers by the way. I need three seater of AMI though :)
@@MeandMonAmi sorry you have said 150w and later fixed it in the video.
You guys have no shame. 😂 But you can always get more creative and get stuck down town in rush hour.😅
Thanks;
don't worry if some one ask what you doing you can always say because of all the cameras on the vehicle you doing a scientific review on this little "i am not car" car ^^ i don't know how you guys it call but in Germany we call ist das kein Auto Auto because it is not a car but also not a moped or quad it is even not a kabinenroller it is some where between all this and the Government is also not sure about what is rely is that's the reason why it took so long to come to Germany and also no manufacturer as opel or Citroen doing any kind of advertisement noting at all.
Citroen call it ‘an urban mobility object!’
You shouldn’t go below 10% with this battery chemistry as it will shorten its life. Batteries on ami will not charge if the battery temperature is above 50c, high temperatures are caused by rapid charging and discharging. Also you charge up to 100% and leave on charge for a while once a month (on an ami battery) to allow the bms to balance charge individual cells. But it was fun to watch you ignore all the rules, you rebels😊
We break the rules so you don’t have to;
More Jeopardy AND product placement! Hmm........🙄 (Two things that trigger my unsubscribe usually!) But I still love you all 😇 xo 💕
TBH It's really valuable to see a genuine 'Run out' test! 👍 I had a Mk1 Nissan Leaf on a test drive for a week about 10 years ago and really put it through it's paces with a 300 mile road trip! Great fun and Sh*t loads of jeopardy
too! 😁
Genuinely no product placement! How else would we have taken it to zero on a public road!
I can imagine!
I checked the manual, and the Turtle sign comes up when the battery temperature is too low, to indicate reduced performance.
After the display showed zero km, about how many km it took until you were stranded?
It’s such a long time ago I’d have to rewatch the video. We definitely had more range than advertised on dash but eventually we flattened it