People don't understand what worthy means. It's not a purity test. It's not who is the pure of heart. The point of it is to make Thor ready to be king of Asgard. Worthy means specifically what Odin who created the enchantment thinks is worthy of being a good ruler. Who would make a good king.
But then for example, captain America's refusal to sacrifice vision in infinity war would make him unworthy, because a good decision maker should always open to sacrifice a few to save the many. But then again it's so vague and can be interpreted in some ways anyways.
This logic fails the lore test though. Because by this standard, Doom can't wield it normally (yes, there have been times he has but only when there were situations that weakened the enchantment, not because he was worthy), yet by your standards he should be able to no problem.
Aquaman probably. The hammer's sense of worthiness is tied to who would be a good king for Asgard. You not only have to be good-hearted, but willing to kill for the greater good. Aquaman is already a great king who cares for his people, and will absolutely spill blood in their defense.
Being worthy was part of why he got the trident in the first place so logically he would be worthy for Mjölnir too , just imagine him with the trident and mjölnir, lowkey could dominate the whole Earth since he already has the sea power
Deadshot: “I’ll never talk!” *Looks at wonder woman* “well maybe if you give me a good time 😏” *Batman takes him* *Wonder woman Superman wonder what he says to him.* Batman: “You know deadshot, Your daughter Zoe would make a good robin!” Deadshot: “OK OK ILL TALK ILL TALK!!!”
Give an orphan to batman and let him actually raise them, he makes Nightwing, Batmans goal with Robin was to make sure he doesn't turn out a batman, he unironically thinks Dick is a way better and model hero, that mf could not be more proud of Dick
I once read somewhere that Peter can’t lift Mijhonir cause he’s not willing to take a life. And for me makes a lot of sense when you think of the Norse mythology. So I have some problems with that list, but I think it’s a good one when you think of pureness of heart
Yeah, I like to think of the worthiness being, worthy of being King of Asgard. So that would mean being a leader and a good person, but also you have to be willing to do what needs to be done to defend Asgard and its people. Not being willing to kill could stand in the way of that.
@@xxbatman69xx98 the point is, Mjolnir was created by Asgardian gods, using Asgarding culture as base, Asgardians are warriors, they belivieve killing and diying in battle are noble things. So Mjolnir "conditions" to define who is worthy or not, is probably rooted in Asgardian's culture, Asgardian's version of "Hero", not Modern US's version of "Hero".
John Constantine may not be worthy but you know he'd find some magic loophole around the enchantment. Like he'd replace his hand with the hand of someone who is worthy or something like that
Don't forget mjolnir is semi-sentient. It kinda knows what's lifting it through intention. Machines like elevators can because it's simple, but I doubt someone building a robot for it or putting it to the elevator will make mjolnir budge.
Spider-Man never lifted Thor's hammer you're missing some of the context in the comics that you mention at the start of the video. Enchantress created a fake version of Thor's hammer for Spider-Man to weld and when Thor shows up to stop the enchantress he immediately crushed the fake hammer. So in marvel line 616 canon Spider-Man never welded Thor hammer
It should also be noted that that was not even Spider-Man of 616, rather it's "Peter Parker (Earth-20051)" from the Marvel Adventures Spider-Man. Specifically Volume 1 #40. The same comic universe where Spider-Man actually has a good romance with the Mutant "Chat"(Sophia Sanduval) and it doesn't end in the utter mess that 616 Peter constantly receives.
@@reaperraider999 Amora, aka "The Enchantress" is a Norse goddess of Beauty( Marvel comics). Her primary characterization is usually her vanity, and being a yandere for Thor. Story wise she's usually just a Thor Villain, rarely appearing elsewhere. Though later comics and series do give her a bit more depth then "Beautiful and One-sided love With Thor".
I read that Spider-Man couldn't lift it because of his unwillingness to kill. So that means Batman, Nightwing, maybe even Shazam or Flash couldn't lift it either
One of the requirements to weild Mjolnir is that the weilder isnt afraid to unalive their enemies, like any great leader who cares for their peoples safety should.
Correct why most of this list can't do it. Wonder Woman, Dirk Grayson and Aquaman are probably the 3 I'd say are potentially worthy. Billy, Superman, and others aren't willing to kill as they are not warriors at heart.
Superman. He doesn't really have a no kill rule, he just chooses not to kill if at all possible. Proof is he went in for the kill against Doomsday in Death of Superman. If he can talk his opponents down he'll talk them down, if can stop them by slapping them around and beating down on them he will, but if killing them is the only way to stop their rampage then he will kill them.
@@Kurakumakachilibaba Superman doesn't do killing well. When he did kill Zod and his cronies, it haunted him for a long time. Even against Doomsday he spent most of the fight trying redirect Doomsday from metropolis than actually trying defeat him. He didn't go for the kill till he was badly beaten himself. John Byrne who wrote post crisis said Thor likely would defeated Doomsday without dying because he is used to fighting to the death, and Doomsday would just been another slain beast to him. Superman kept the kid gloves on for way too long. Superman tries to find another way whenever possible. This why he's not worthy as he just isn't a warrior at the end of the day. He fights because he HAS TO. Not because he enjoys it or views it as his trade. He spends most of his spare time creating things in the fortress of solitude or doing some nerdy science stuff. These are his passions, not fighting. Which are all noble and great things..it just doesn't make you worthy.
@@Kurakumakachilibaba Right I think that's what a lot of people miss about Superman. He doesn't kill because he's powerful enough not to have to. Not because of some silly idealistic code.
I'm a fan of the idea of Batman wielding Venom, but I honestly can't think of many reasons he'd do so short of the symbiote temporarily asserting control over him. For him to put the thing on willingly would require a lot of desperation. I just don't see much opportunity for them to partner up as host and symbiote.
She also held and wield the hammer in DC vs Marvel when she fought Storm and she dropped the hammer so the fight could have been fair fight and Storm said that Wonder Woman could easily have won the battle with the hammer
i believe Diana hold most of Thor’s values, also in order to be truly worthy you must be capable of killing someone, which is why for so long Peter Parker wasn’t able to wield it (a cool sidenote for the MCU Spiderman would be allowing him to carry Mjolnir since he was so contempt to kill Green Goblin in No Way Home)
I dont know if he was actually, he was willing to kill when pushed emotionally to the extreame, but tu actually be allways ready to kill as a solution to a conflict, when the death is the best solution, even if its not the only one, while keeping a good heart and take this descition whith temperance yet confidence? I dont think so
Number one for me is Nightwing cause that one comic where alternate universe Superman met Batman and told him in other universes where all the heroes become corrupted or died, Nightwing is the only person that stay true to his heroic self. Not to mention, Joker hates him cause he's the only person Joker failed to break.
You are absolutely right about Wonder Woman. She is so incredibly selfless. I’m reading Greg Rucka’s run right now and that’s such a great example. Her work as a diplomat and the way she treats the people surrounding her as well as her enemies shows her heart.
First vid from this channel. I really like this off-the-pill type format where you’re just two nerds talking about comics, and it doesn’t feel scripted. I can tell you’re super passionate about it and I think it’s very well done. This channel is gonna blow up. Side note, what was that superman game y’all were playing in the background?
@@deathlokprime2645If that’s the case most on the list wouldnt be able to except WW & Aquaman maybe. And I’d call into question Cap lifting it as well given his humility.
Maybe Superman. He’s the very definition of everything that’s good in the world, a beacon of hope, and he’s not fight-hungry. He will attempt the peaceful approach more times then he’ll immediately beat the shit out of them. Maybe Shazam too.
the issue is, Thor is 100% fight hungry, Mjolnir is a warrior weapon, not exacly the something created for someone that is all about peace or dont like to fight
@@rafaelsantos-nl9jd Thor was also deemed not worthy at one point. Besides Superman WILL fight when he has to. He’s not afraid to do so. He just goes for the peaceful approach if he can first.
Aquaman......i don't know enough about him but i would say he has better Chances then Superman. After all Aquaman would definitaly be ready to kill an Enemy. But would he also kill a Friend or a beloved Person to safe many others?
@@shauntempley9757 Then yes, he would be worthy. The only Problem now is, he should never use all Powers of Mjöllnir and certainly not ever throw in anywhere while being in Atlantis.
@@markomarinic3073 That is fine, so long as the lightning is magic based, which I think it is. If it was science based, then it would not need a restriction to operate.
One thing I like about Superman, (in regards to his humanity) is that his secret identity is Superman, while his real identity is Clark. He doesn’t consider himself to be the hero with the strength of a god, he views himself as ‘mild mannered’ Clark Kent!
@@Mudoh415 there have been different takes on this. Sometimes Clark is the disguise sometimes sm is the disguise. Bruce Wayne is the disguise for bm no one can argue this
Wonder Woman is such a wonderful hero as long as the writers don't try to reinvent the wheel! She just like Superman is supposed to be a certain way and when they try to change it, it'll never work. Justice League animated series is my ideal version of Wonder Woman, you can see the wisdom that comes with thousands of years of being alive. she's calm and collected, she's wise and level-headed, she's always gentle but becomes a badass when she needs to be. what more do you want? she's the Justice League mom. also, the Batman Wonder Woman romance was awesome.
Agree with everything respectfully except Wonder woman and Batman. It was literally just a notch on his belt to make him bat god because that's what he was in the series. I like Batman but it was ridiculous. Tho they didn't finish the comics right Superman and Wonder woman had a million times more chemistry and not just because of their powers.
@@brandontrammel4581That's a pretty naive way of looking at it, I liked it because of what it did for Wonder Woman's character. the worst pairing in the comics is WW and Superman. these two characters are so far removed from humanity into the realm of gods that they absolutely need every connection to make them more relatable and human. dating humans helps make them be more human. Superman never acts more like Clark Kent than when he's with Louis, it reminds us of who he really is, not the alien god but the human. And WW has so little connection to the world of men, that she absolutely needs to date a human even more than Superman. the show didn't have time for Steve Trevor to be added so they just made use of Bats. if anything Batman was used for WW's character building, not the other way around. I can't think of anything more terrifying than someone like Superman dating someone like WW. They'd be gods above us(Injustice style). not to mention they can't give each other anything cuz both of them are on the same plane of existence. Superman will always be Superman around WW cuz there's no reason to switch to Clark and WW can't ever get to know humanity properly because of that. you have to remember the superhero is Clark's alter ego but for WW Diana Prince is the alter ego. for this couple they need to be able to be themselves around each other. that's why Superman and Louis work so well, they can both be humans around each other. The worst version of WW was in the Justice League War. She acted like a horny teenager the whole movie! not like she's one of the oldest beings on the planet. and of course dated Superman, thankfully they realized it and in the later movies they weren't dating and she started acting like the actual WW but it was too late cuz her brightest moments were wasted in the early movies being an airhead teen. Imagine if in JL War instead of being a teenager with a crush she actually acted like her JL animated series version, She would've been the inspiration for the new heroes.
I love your list! I am surprised that yhe flash was not included. The flash is always trying to help his villians become better, and a really now to earth person.
I'd love to see a Marvel DC cross over where Thor pranks the DC villains by lifting Mjolnir by having it float since it can fly by itself (him recalling it, etc.) I could see Harley Quinn seeing it and say "I've used hammers before!" Struggle to lift it, then suddenly lift it without effort, then suddenly it folds her like an accordion under it's weight.
I strongly believe that whoever weilds mjolnir can't be insecure and has to be unapologetically themselves and that is the biggest hurdle to using the hammer
Make longer vids, I’d honestly be a die hard fan if your videos were on the longer side. The type of vids yall make is the stuff I want to listen to on the drive to work etc. 15 minutes isn’t long enough ! Haha
Just found out about this channel! And I really like your guys anylasis on it! (Especially who is Spiderman true love and who is the best Robin) I have a few suggestions of interesting topics for future videos, if you guys are interested in any of them. I think would be fun to discuss: -Batman kids ranked from his favorite to least favorite (pls: include Helena Wayne if you do this). -Who is considered the most beautiful man/woman in canon in DC and Marvel? -DC and Marvel timeline if they merged. -And what is exactly WW dynamics with Superman and Batman? We already Supes-Bat dynamic in detail but we talk very little about her bonds with them. -Who should be Wonder Woman's arch-enemy?
I think Mjolnir would actually reject Batman for his unwillingness to kill. Mjolnir is a weapon and worthiness is a measure of a hero’s capacity to do whatever it takes to protect the innocent. Apart from that, I think Batman would generally be judged unworthy for the same reasons he can’t wield a lantern ring.
It’s kinda wild though because he will literally do everything else up to killing and even then he has contingencies in place to kill basically just himself
@@tylertinney8294well not really. Yes he rejected the ring but it is not why ring didn't stay with him. The exposure to green lanterns power made ring reject him. Yellow lantern ring doesn't need to be accepted as it works like parasite.
The same goes for green lantern ring. As batman refuses to make peace with his parents death and thus still holds the fear that he felt that day in his heart.
So far the only confirmed DC character who can lift Mjolnir is Wonder Woman during the Marvel vs DC comic. Superman held it once, but that was only because of either a spell or Thor temporarily lifted the enchantment to help Superman.
Wonder Woman for sure. Maybe Aquaman, depending on the version. Other then that? I could see a good case for Big Barda. Or Hawkman and Hawkgirl, possibly. Btw Spider Man is explicitly confirmed to be not worthy because of his unwillingness to kill (which neatly rules out Batman, Superman and many others). That is canon. I'm pretty sure the comic you're referring to has him use a duplicate or something similar. Mjolnir going for heroes willing to kill if needed makes perfect sense (Odin is a god of war and death from a religion all about a glorious death in battle). And considering you put Superman at the top it needs to be said: the enchantment was lifted at the time he wielded it, specifically because Thor trusted Clark would use it well and for a worthy cause, so he asked for the spell to be, temporarily, lifted. Which kinda proves to me that Superman wouldn't lift Mjolnir with the enchantment on. If we include crossovers as canon.
Why do people always think Superman doesn’t kill at all despite that time he laid out a giant grey hate monster to death. He doesn’t kill mostly because he usually doesn’t have to but he has killed and has done it in modern times
@@Dunybrook its been explicitly confirmed Peter (at least in the main continuity) is holding back his strength to a massive extent. There is no doubt he could casually one tap any normal human, but he chooses not to.
If I remember correctly when Marvel and DC had an official crossover (this was when they still sent in letters that were put inbthe comics) someone asked the question and Superman and Wonder Woman were stated to be able to lift Thor's hammer.
I feel like i shopuld mention that during an official crossover between Marvel and DC, Wonder Woman actually did lift the hammer and was granted Thor's power. (it was before her fight with Storm. Thor's hammer landed nearby and Wonder Woman picked it up and was granted Thor's power. She relinquesd it because she didn't want an unfair power up heading into her fight with Storm) Also, while Superman did weild the hammer, it was later revealed that he was actually not worthy and Odin lifted the enchantment to allow Superman to use Thor's powers.
Nightwing Wonder Woman Flash (Barry & Wally) Superman/girl Swamp Thing Kyle Raynor Forager Black Adam Two Face? Ivy Uncle Ben/Jonathan Kent Alfred Lois Lane Bibbo Any sufficiently powerful magic user...may be able to get around Odins Incarnation upon the Hammer. (I.e. Constantine, Mister Mxyzptlk, The Wizard Shazam, Raven or The Spectre...as just a few examples )
Nightwing and Superman are my top choices for wielding Mjolnir, they're both extremely pure of heart and definitely worthy of wielding such great power.
I'd pick Nightwing If I was Mjolnir. Superman doesn't need it, he can and has lifted the hammer before through sheer force, although in the same story the hammer considered him worthy afterwards.
Except we've seen that Superman can't. We also don't know what actually qualifies as worthy. Lots of ideas -- some good ones too -- but nothing confirmed.
Superman, Wonder Woman, John Stewart, Aquaman, Captain Marvel (original Billy Batson), and, my wild card, Green Arrow. Man, imagine Ollie firing Mjolnir from his bow.
SUperman ( i think the non kill rule will be a issue) Wonder Woman 200% John Stewart ( i love the character, but i feel his whole guilt complex can be a problem) Captain Marvel ( same as Superman) Green Arrow ( not sure i give 50%) Aquaman ( i want to say 100%, but part of me say 95%)
Excellent video guys. Wonderful commentary! I honestly believe that the barometer of measurement pertaining the hammer’s magical enchantment, extends far beyond solely possessing nobility and being pure of heart, when wielding such a weapon.
Thanks for watching! Yeah it’s definitely more than just the qualities that we discussed, we just feel like the main, base quality one needs to lift it is righteousness
Having a Pure Heart isn't enough, you need to have the will to Take a life in order to protect the innocent and that's why Spider-Man isn't worthy while Captain America is. I believe Wonder Woman is worthy but Superman, Nightwing and Shazam won't be worthy because they refuse to take a life
Nightwing is. He beat the joker to death. Batman actted to bring him back from the edge of death, but Grayson was willing to do the deed if Batman didn't perform life saving measures at the last minute.
Superman doesn't have a no kill rule, he just avoids doing it because he's not a bully and it's an easy way out. The proof is he went for the kill against Doomsday with how powerful he is already he doesn't really need Thor's hammer, Superman constantly nerfs himself around people already.
Peter Parker has made immense sacrifices-more than most Marvel characters. He acts selflessly in an instant, valuing even the lives of his enemies. His character is unwaveringly noble, and at his core, he simply strives to be a good person who uses his power responsibly. In return, all he desires is a peaceful night out with MJ and maybe some cookies with Aunt May. Who could be more worthy than that?
There was a story back in the 80's that pointed out that Batman can't wield a Green Lantern ring. Because you have to be "without fear". Nightwing can, though.
I think Superman is the most worthy and can lift it. Batman may move it back and forth but I don't think he can fully lifted. Besides Superman the only other hero I think is Wonder Woman.
Wonder Woman 100% But the one I bet no one would say....Damian Wayne. I know! I know! But hear me out. The problem is that we have to define what makes someone worthy? It's not what we think is worthy. It's what Odin, an Asgardian and the king of Asgard, thinks is worthy. In fact, Cap can only lift Mjolnir when he has the warrior spirit. Spiderman can't lift it because he is unwilling to kill. Also, if Spidey can't lift it, than Nightwing can't either, as they are very similar characters. From my perspective, Odin views Thor as being worthy of being a prince/king of Asgard. What does this entail? Well, we can base it off of Thor himself. A good leader, a warriors spirit, a selfless desire to use their powers and skills for the betterment of their people, a compassion for the innocent, a pride in ones heritage and personal skills, and a willingness to do what they have to in order protect their people and the innocent even if it means killing. Damian fits that perfectly. At least as he grows up a bit he does. He has a warriors spirit, he grows into a leader, he cares for the innocent and strives to make the world a better place (sometimes in the wrong way, but still lol), he has compassion for the innocent and his people (look at all of the stray animals he takes in), he has pride in his skill and his heritage (both as an AL Ghul and as a Wayne), and he is willing to kill if he has to.
Small note, I'm pretty sure it was implied that cap was always worthy, but didn't want to show off. Mjolnir, as I understand it, is either worthy or unworthy, with no inbetween. Also, I could see a matured Damien possibly being able to lif the hammer
@Sirhc_B8207 In the MCU, the director said that Cap chose not to lift it out of respect, yes. In the comics, however, Cap has been shown multiple times to not be able to lift it, and it is very clearly shown he isn't always worthy. That is a common misconception. It is very clearly shown that characters can gain or lose worthiness of the hammer. Thor literally has an entire character arc about this almost every 10 years or so lol. Even in the MCU, they mention that Thor has to check if he is still worthy in Endgame. In fact, Cap has only been able to lift Mjolnir three times, and all were in moments of crises. Once when he was on a battlefield and his team was losing, once as "The Captain" which is a more... morally nuanced character, and once while fighting the evil version of himself in a very intense fight.
Isn’t it “With the great worthiness comes great powers” since the worthy doesn’t have to be strong but if he’s worthy he will have the power of Thor? First time here in the channel and reall digging the vibe. A new subscriber 😉.
Dude I hate when people say Superman isn’t relatable or his stories are “boring” because at that point a character like Spider-Man is boring to you then Superman and Spider-Man are the 2 best examples the the man part of their name is way more important than what comes before it their best stories aren’t the super crazy fights but it’s what they do with the powers that they have and how it’s a struggle to always make the right choice
One thing that would keep it out of many heroes hands, just as it does in Marvel is that a common criteria is the willingness to kill if necessary. Not that the wielder wants to kill, but are willing and capable of doing it if necessary. A lot of heroes will refuse to kill, especially Bats and most versions of Supes. In the crossover he was able to, but ONLY because Odin specifically allowed it for that specific situation. Afterwards, he was unable to.
No not john stewart he is not worthy hold thor hammer cause he's a 1. Overly serious demeanor. 2. Lacks charismatic presence. 3. Often overshadowed by other Green Lanterns. 4. Limited character development. 5. Perceived as a political tool in narratives. And the worst part of him character like guy garden beat john in terms of heroic how guy garden can make superboy-prime shut up how (In green lantern sinestro corp special full 2007) you can see guy garden has made a version of supergirl to hang out and flirting with superboy-prime in his prison and superboy-prime was enjoying Did john stewart ever made character like superboy-prime shut up and chill the answere is NO
@@صالحاليحي-و4يI disagree. Thor is generally a pretty serious character in the comics. John Stewart pulled Hawkgirl and Vixen in JLU so the man has charisma. John Stewart is the only lantern whose willpower exceeds the ring’s power, something even Hal “God of will” Jordan didn’t achieve. I won’t argue on the character development side because that’s kinda subjective to how well you feel pieces of media portray a character. No idea what the last paragraph is even supposed to mean.
Wrong. While John Stewart is known for his remarkable willpower, he is not the only Lantern whose willpower can rival or exceed the power of the ring. Other Lanterns, including Hal Jordan, have also demonstrated extraordinary willpower.@@supermrmainman
@@supermrmainman Several Green Lanterns have demonstrated impressive feats of willpower that could rival or exceed John Stewart's, including: 1. **Hal Jordan**: - Hal once overcame the Parallax entity, which feeds on fear, and managed to wield the full power of the Green Lantern Corps to face immense threats. - In "The Green Lantern: Emerald Dawn" series, he also showed extraordinary willpower when he pushed himself to his limits against insurmountable odds. 2. **Guy Gardner**: - Guy has displayed an indomitable spirit, famously resisting mind control and in "Green Lantern: Rebirth," he showcased his resilience against the influence of Sinestro and Parallax. 3. **Kyle Rayner**: - Kyle, as the last Green Lantern after the destruction of the Corps, tapped into his creative willpower to create constructs that rivalled those of experienced Lanterns. He notably used his artistic abilities to devise solutions in critical situations. These characters have all demonstrated willpower in specific scenarios that can rival John Stewart's determination and strength. It's important to know kyle and john did was under controled by paralax and they succssed it get away from him kyle did something john can do also The green lantern the who beat paralax is hal jordan cause hal is the most bravest superhero ever beside daredevil
@@davidcobb2682 Which is not accurate. Odin literally allowed him to use it otherwise he wouldn't be able to use it. And i know, People just ignore the Context of that Scene.
@@davidcobb2682 Congrats on being ignorant. Man, you could literally check it out here on TH-cam but then you would have to admit of being wrong afterwards and therefore you won't.
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Man, first thing I thought, when I opened the video was "It's got to be Shazam, but for sure he's going to forget about him. Everybody always forgets Shazam." I'm glad to see some Shazam/Captain Marvel love here, despite him being one of the less popular DC heores.
Superman; Wonder Woman; Batman (with reservations). I think Hal Jordan would, given that the original idea of Hal as a fundamentally honest and fearless man, which is why he was chosen. (Of course, per John Broome, that makes him a romantic, who tilts with windmills.)
Martian Manhunter and Aquaman are both good picks too. The latter, as a king and warrior himself, who's willing to go as far as the kingdom needs, would be worthy for sure. Mjolnir works off Asgardian heroic custom; which means not only being good of heart, but willing to take a life if necessary to defend the kingdom and keep it safe.
Shazam is another severly underrated character. People will never know what they missed by fucking up the Shazam filmm franchise. It could have been Harry Potter with superheroes. Especially exploring the magical realms. His best comic by far is 1. shazam and the seven magic lands 2. superman shazam first thunder 3. Shazam power of hope. For anyone looking start with these.
Martian Manhunter, red tornado (who is equal to vision pretty) , walley west, green lantern (john stewart), beast boy, PLOT TWIST DARK SEID he's considered a cosmic being possibly above and most if bot all cosmic beings have lifted or broken Thor's Hammer
I think one aspect to lift Mjoiner is being relentless. Cap, Thor, and Storm all are characters that are ones who never relent even when every others give in. Superman, Nightwing, Shazam, and WW all share that aspect as well
Batman with prep time goes to a therapist and becomes worthy to lift Jonathan
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Without context this has got to be the wildest comment of all time
Alfred. I can just see all these heroes trying to lift it and he wonders by like, “let me move this, it doesn’t go here. “
Alfred gonna be like that one janitor in the gym, "can i clean here?" and lift it without breaking a sweat.
Casually lifts it just to sweep under it
@@narc440Anatoly the power lifter.
Alfred is the ultimate comic book badass.
Random janitor picking up Mjolnir would honestly have been the best Stan Lee cameo if Lego hadn’t done it first
People don't understand what worthy means. It's not a purity test. It's not who is the pure of heart.
The point of it is to make Thor ready to be king of Asgard. Worthy means specifically what Odin who created the enchantment thinks is worthy of being a good ruler.
Who would make a good king.
But then for example, captain America's refusal to sacrifice vision in infinity war would make him unworthy, because a good decision maker should always open to sacrifice a few to save the many.
But then again it's so vague and can be interpreted in some ways anyways.
@@Napoleonic_S if we're talking mcu you could argue he wasn't fully worthy till after the snap. He had to learn a lesson from that defeat.
Which is why i added royalty to my list. Starfire, Aquaman, and Wonderwoman are on my list for that reason alone.
This logic fails the lore test though. Because by this standard, Doom can't wield it normally (yes, there have been times he has but only when there were situations that weakened the enchantment, not because he was worthy), yet by your standards he should be able to no problem.
@@2centschange I think it is a just ruler as well as a good ruler. That is why Doom is often not worthy.
Aquaman probably. The hammer's sense of worthiness is tied to who would be a good king for Asgard. You not only have to be good-hearted, but willing to kill for the greater good. Aquaman is already a great king who cares for his people, and will absolutely spill blood in their defense.
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Being worthy was part of why he got the trident in the first place so logically he would be worthy for Mjölnir too , just imagine him with the trident and mjölnir, lowkey could dominate the whole Earth since he already has the sea power
" it's almost like folklore at this point "
Me as a Scandinavian "almost?"
I mean in mythology the hammer's is a little different.
The pop culture version just totally pounded under the dirt that version.
Give an orphan soup, you feed them for a day. Give an orphan to Batman, they're probably fucked.
Deadshot: “I’ll never talk!” *Looks at wonder woman* “well maybe if you give me a good time 😏”
*Batman takes him*
*Wonder woman Superman wonder what he says to him.*
Batman: “You know deadshot, Your daughter Zoe would make a good robin!”
Deadshot: “OK OK ILL TALK ILL TALK!!!”
Just ask Starfire and Batgirl for reassurance and confirmation on that claim.
Spider-Man lifted a fake Mjolnir created by the Enchantress
Give an orphan to batman and let him actually raise them, he makes Nightwing, Batmans goal with Robin was to make sure he doesn't turn out a batman, he unironically thinks Dick is a way better and model hero, that mf could not be more proud of Dick
No Batman is fine. But put an orphan in GOTHAM then their fucked
I once read somewhere that Peter can’t lift Mijhonir cause he’s not willing to take a life. And for me makes a lot of sense when you think of the Norse mythology. So I have some problems with that list, but I think it’s a good one when you think of pureness of heart
Yeah, I like to think of the worthiness being, worthy of being King of Asgard.
So that would mean being a leader and a good person, but also you have to be willing to do what needs to be done to defend Asgard and its people. Not being willing to kill could stand in the way of that.
If you follow that logic then it would allow batman too :)
No it doesn’t make sense, in Norse mythology anyone can lift mjolnir but it’s so heavy that nobody but Thor can do it.
@@andrewmaitland8150 No because batman doesn't have the heart to take a like either
@@xxbatman69xx98 the point is, Mjolnir was created by Asgardian gods, using Asgarding culture as base, Asgardians are warriors, they belivieve killing and diying in battle are noble things. So Mjolnir "conditions" to define who is worthy or not, is probably rooted in Asgardian's culture, Asgardian's version of "Hero", not Modern US's version of "Hero".
I’m surprised no one is saying Barry Allen, the guy who brings his criminals Christmas presents in jail
I'd say Wally would get it before Barry
That’s not what makes you worthy dawg 💀🙏
Barry is not willing to kill, you need to be willing to kill to be worthy
@@reckzxxit's an example of how pure of heart he is, he's also willing to kill.
Wasn't that wally?
There are versions of Batman that could lift it, Adam West’s Batman could scoop that thing up without a second thought
He could spin it on his pinky like a Harlem Globe-trotter
John Constantine may not be worthy but you know he'd find some magic loophole around the enchantment. Like he'd replace his hand with the hand of someone who is worthy or something like that
Don't forget mjolnir is semi-sentient. It kinda knows what's lifting it through intention. Machines like elevators can because it's simple, but I doubt someone building a robot for it or putting it to the elevator will make mjolnir budge.
@@j-sant-animations8105 Tony can't lift it but Vision can, sooooo
@j-sant-animations8105 then he'd probably reprogram the thing. Or break it's spirit. (As has happened.) Again, he'd find a loop hole.
@@j-sant-animations8105 Machines can surely lift Mjölnir but as you said it is semi-sentient that's why Ultron wouldn't be able to lift it
Martian Manhunter grabbing that thing just like vision did lmao
Rorschach could lift it
Agreed
Vision is an android….Manhunter is a martian
@@Canrugger
Does that mean Amazo can lift it?
Spider-Man never lifted Thor's hammer you're missing some of the context in the comics that you mention at the start of the video. Enchantress created a fake version of Thor's hammer for Spider-Man to weld and when Thor shows up to stop the enchantress he immediately crushed the fake hammer. So in marvel line 616 canon Spider-Man never welded Thor hammer
thank christ
It should also be noted that that was not even Spider-Man of 616, rather it's "Peter Parker (Earth-20051)" from the Marvel Adventures Spider-Man. Specifically Volume 1 #40. The same comic universe where Spider-Man actually has a good romance with the Mutant "Chat"(Sophia Sanduval) and it doesn't end in the utter mess that 616 Peter constantly receives.
OK nerds lol
Marvel has a character called Enchantress as well?
@@reaperraider999 Amora, aka "The Enchantress" is a Norse goddess of Beauty( Marvel comics). Her primary characterization is usually her vanity, and being a yandere for Thor.
Story wise she's usually just a Thor Villain, rarely appearing elsewhere. Though later comics and series do give her a bit more depth then "Beautiful and One-sided love With Thor".
I read that Spider-Man couldn't lift it because of his unwillingness to kill. So that means Batman, Nightwing, maybe even Shazam or Flash couldn't lift it either
Which is weird because he is willing to kill and has shown that before with original green goblin and kingpin even others
@dennisbeaman958 maybe it judges someone's core value nit consistent value
That means Barry could
@@Ked7 Wally could but Barry might not because of that whole flashpoint thing
In that case, it's Mjolnir who's unworthy.
My boy Alfred
One of the requirements to weild Mjolnir is that the weilder isnt afraid to unalive their enemies, like any great leader who cares for their peoples safety should.
Correct why most of this list can't do it. Wonder Woman, Dirk Grayson and Aquaman are probably the 3 I'd say are potentially worthy. Billy, Superman, and others aren't willing to kill as they are not warriors at heart.
Superman. He doesn't really have a no kill rule, he just chooses not to kill if at all possible. Proof is he went in for the kill against Doomsday in Death of Superman. If he can talk his opponents down he'll talk them down, if can stop them by slapping them around and beating down on them he will, but if killing them is the only way to stop their rampage then he will kill them.
@@Kurakumakachilibaba Superman doesn't do killing well. When he did kill Zod and his cronies, it haunted him for a long time.
Even against Doomsday he spent most of the fight trying redirect Doomsday from metropolis than actually trying defeat him. He didn't go for the kill till he was badly beaten himself.
John Byrne who wrote post crisis said Thor likely would defeated Doomsday without dying because he is used to fighting to the death, and Doomsday would just been another slain beast to him. Superman kept the kid gloves on for way too long. Superman tries to find another way whenever possible.
This why he's not worthy as he just isn't a warrior at the end of the day. He fights because he HAS TO. Not because he enjoys it or views it as his trade. He spends most of his spare time creating things in the fortress of solitude or doing some nerdy science stuff. These are his passions, not fighting. Which are all noble and great things..it just doesn't make you worthy.
@@Kurakumakachilibaba Right I think that's what a lot of people miss about Superman. He doesn't kill because he's powerful enough not to have to. Not because of some silly idealistic code.
Superman, Nightwing and Shazam.
maybe Barry or Wally, The Flash.
solid 3!
Not Nightwing he isn't prepared to kill
@@mxnstyr1440that does not make him unworthy???
@@daystainYes. You gotta be willing to kill to lift the hammer. It’s why Spider-Man can’t lift it
Along with Batman getting Venom I have always thought Shazam would be so cool with Mjolnir
I'm a fan of the idea of Batman wielding Venom, but I honestly can't think of many reasons he'd do so short of the symbiote temporarily asserting control over him. For him to put the thing on willingly would require a lot of desperation. I just don't see much opportunity for them to partner up as host and symbiote.
@@capesword111yeah he probably wouldn’t wear it but it would look cool
I'd rather see Peter Parker become his ward, and have Batman and the Spider running around Gotham
Wonder woman could for sure
Edit: guys ik she picked it up and even used it in the amalgamation comics that's why I said it 💀
En los comics una vez lo hizo
In the amalgam universe she did
@@diegoibarra6646 exactly
She already did so yeah
She also held and wield the hammer in DC vs Marvel when she fought Storm and she dropped the hammer so the fight could have been fair fight and Storm said that Wonder Woman could easily have won the battle with the hammer
i believe Diana hold most of Thor’s values, also in order to be truly worthy you must be capable of killing someone, which is why for so long Peter Parker wasn’t able to wield it (a cool sidenote for the MCU Spiderman would be allowing him to carry Mjolnir since he was so contempt to kill Green Goblin in No Way Home)
I dont know if he was actually, he was willing to kill when pushed emotionally to the extreame, but tu actually be allways ready to kill as a solution to a conflict, when the death is the best solution, even if its not the only one, while keeping a good heart and take this descition whith temperance yet confidence? I dont think so
i call bull on that last part
I absolutely love this video the Dick Grayson stuff was spot on!!!! You guys are so dope
Number one for me is Nightwing cause that one comic where alternate universe Superman met Batman and told him in other universes where all the heroes become corrupted or died, Nightwing is the only person that stay true to his heroic self. Not to mention, Joker hates him cause he's the only person Joker failed to break.
2:06 "With great power comes great worthiness" sounds like something Homelander would say lol
You are absolutely right about Wonder Woman. She is so incredibly selfless. I’m reading Greg Rucka’s run right now and that’s such a great example. Her work as a diplomat and the way she treats the people surrounding her as well as her enemies shows her heart.
Black Adam/Shazam would be a significantly more likely inclusion than Wonder Woman.
No her misandry and conceited world view would prevent her from lifting it.
First vid from this channel. I really like this off-the-pill type format where you’re just two nerds talking about comics, and it doesn’t feel scripted. I can tell you’re super passionate about it and I think it’s very well done. This channel is gonna blow up.
Side note, what was that superman game y’all were playing in the background?
Another fantastic video! Thank you!
Pretty sure Martian Manhunter could probably lift Mjolnir.
If Beta Ray Bill can someone can MM I’d say.
@@guardiantree8879
Very similar characters and I agree
He's got the largest vote from me
I don’t think he’d think he’s worthy, and therefore wouldn’t be worthy.
@@deathlokprime2645If that’s the case most on the list wouldnt be able to except WW & Aquaman maybe.
And I’d call into question Cap lifting it as well given his humility.
Maybe Superman. He’s the very definition of everything that’s good in the world, a beacon of hope, and he’s not fight-hungry. He will attempt the peaceful approach more times then he’ll immediately beat the shit out of them.
Maybe Shazam too.
the issue is, Thor is 100% fight hungry, Mjolnir is a warrior weapon, not exacly the something created for someone that is all about peace or dont like to fight
@@rafaelsantos-nl9jd Thor was also deemed not worthy at one point. Besides Superman WILL fight when he has to. He’s not afraid to do so. He just goes for the peaceful approach if he can first.
@@Rebelheart1985 Thor was unworthy duing the period he was full of self doubt. Superman can fight but he dont kill
@@rafaelsantos-nl9jd superman kills people.
@@rafaelsantos-nl9jd Superman will kill if he has exhausted every other option.
Batman plot armor would allow him to pick it up
Batman can lift mjolnir with enough prep time
@@Sierra99Batman going into a journey of character development as prep time
@@pedrocesarsakihara1853 I mean theoretically if Bruce found out he’d be worthy if he killed, it can be likely
Yup like Captain America
@@AP_0111 he wouldn’t do that though. not unless the whole planet is at stake or something 😂 this guy hard headed asf
Flash is pure of heart than everyone on this list after Shazam.
Nice video! I really like both of you sharing your takes. I just wanted to point out that the swish sound effect might be a bit overused
why not Aquaman? He is a king, basically a demigod and rule fairly. He is pretty close to Thor in many ways.
Aquaman......i don't know enough about him but i would say he has better Chances then Superman. After all Aquaman would definitaly be ready to kill an Enemy. But would he also kill a Friend or a beloved Person to safe many others?
Definitely... @@markomarinic3073
@@markomarinic3073 Yes. He has done that in the comics.
@@shauntempley9757 Then yes, he would be worthy. The only Problem now is, he should never use all Powers of Mjöllnir and certainly not ever throw in anywhere while being in Atlantis.
@@markomarinic3073 That is fine, so long as the lightning is magic based, which I think it is.
If it was science based, then it would not need a restriction to operate.
One thing I like about Superman, (in regards to his humanity) is that his secret identity is Superman, while his real identity is Clark. He doesn’t consider himself to be the hero with the strength of a god, he views himself as ‘mild mannered’ Clark Kent!
And Batman is the exact opposite.
@@Mudoh415 there have been different takes on this. Sometimes Clark is the disguise sometimes sm is the disguise.
Bruce Wayne is the disguise for bm no one can argue this
Wonder Woman is such a wonderful hero as long as the writers don't try to reinvent the wheel! She just like Superman is supposed to be a certain way and when they try to change it, it'll never work.
Justice League animated series is my ideal version of Wonder Woman, you can see the wisdom that comes with thousands of years of being alive. she's calm and collected, she's wise and level-headed, she's always gentle but becomes a badass when she needs to be. what more do you want? she's the Justice League mom. also, the Batman Wonder Woman romance was awesome.
Agree with everything respectfully except Wonder woman and Batman. It was literally just a notch on his belt to make him bat god because that's what he was in the series. I like Batman but it was ridiculous. Tho they didn't finish the comics right Superman and Wonder woman had a million times more chemistry and not just because of their powers.
@@brandontrammel4581That's a pretty naive way of looking at it, I liked it because of what it did for Wonder Woman's character. the worst pairing in the comics is WW and Superman. these two characters are so far removed from humanity into the realm of gods that they absolutely need every connection to make them more relatable and human. dating humans helps make them be more human.
Superman never acts more like Clark Kent than when he's with Louis, it reminds us of who he really is, not the alien god but the human.
And WW has so little connection to the world of men, that she absolutely needs to date a human even more than Superman. the show didn't have time for Steve Trevor to be added so they just made use of Bats. if anything Batman was used for WW's character building, not the other way around.
I can't think of anything more terrifying than someone like Superman dating someone like WW. They'd be gods above us(Injustice style). not to mention they can't give each other anything cuz both of them are on the same plane of existence. Superman will always be Superman around WW cuz there's no reason to switch to Clark and WW can't ever get to know humanity properly because of that. you have to remember the superhero is Clark's alter ego but for WW Diana Prince is the alter ego. for this couple they need to be able to be themselves around each other. that's why Superman and Louis work so well, they can both be humans around each other.
The worst version of WW was in the Justice League War. She acted like a horny teenager the whole movie! not like she's one of the oldest beings on the planet. and of course dated Superman, thankfully they realized it and in the later movies they weren't dating and she started acting like the actual WW but it was too late cuz her brightest moments were wasted in the early movies being an airhead teen. Imagine if in JL War instead of being a teenager with a crush she actually acted like her JL animated series version, She would've been the inspiration for the new heroes.
This 🙌
@@brandontrammel4581 Wonder Woman shouldn't be with either of them. It's like, let her be her own hero.
@@hottakestuesdays7450 So, true. Batman has other better love interests, like batgirl. (That was a joke) 😂
Nice well thought out vid
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Thanks guys
Thank YOU!
I love your list! I am surprised that yhe flash was not included. The flash is always trying to help his villians become better, and a really now to earth person.
Superman, Barry Allen, Shazam, Dick Grayson, Tim Drake, Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter
Great picks🔥
I don’t think MM would think himself worthy, and therefore wouldn’t be.
A young adult Damien
@@comiclads How about the non powered hero's who could defeat The Saw traps. Like Batman Daredevil Hawkeye Green Arrow
@@lambert581 Batman and green arrow code to not kill would prevent that probably otherwise Where is peter hammer?
I'd love to see a Marvel DC cross over where Thor pranks the DC villains by lifting Mjolnir by having it float since it can fly by itself (him recalling it, etc.) I could see Harley Quinn seeing it and say "I've used hammers before!" Struggle to lift it, then suddenly lift it without effort, then suddenly it folds her like an accordion under it's weight.
I strongly believe that whoever weilds mjolnir can't be insecure and has to be unapologetically themselves and that is the biggest hurdle to using the hammer
Make longer vids, I’d honestly be a die hard fan if your videos were on the longer side. The type of vids yall make is the stuff I want to listen to on the drive to work etc. 15 minutes isn’t long enough ! Haha
I don’t know much about Martian Man Hunter, but from what i’ve seen he’s a pretty pure at heart dude. I think he could definitely lift Mjölnir.
Just found out about this channel! And I really like your guys anylasis on it! (Especially who is Spiderman true love and who is the best Robin) I have a few suggestions of interesting topics for future videos, if you guys are interested in any of them. I think would be fun to discuss:
-Batman kids ranked from his favorite to least favorite (pls: include Helena Wayne if you do this).
-Who is considered the most beautiful man/woman in canon in DC and Marvel?
-DC and Marvel timeline if they merged.
-And what is exactly WW dynamics with Superman and Batman? We already Supes-Bat dynamic in detail but we talk very little about her bonds with them.
-Who should be Wonder Woman's arch-enemy?
Kind of poetic for Wonder Woman to be worthy of Mjolnir, considering Zues is her father.
I think Mjolnir would actually reject Batman for his unwillingness to kill. Mjolnir is a weapon and worthiness is a measure of a hero’s capacity to do whatever it takes to protect the innocent. Apart from that, I think Batman would generally be judged unworthy for the same reasons he can’t wield a lantern ring.
It’s kinda wild though because he will literally do everything else up to killing and even then he has contingencies in place to kill basically just himself
I thought he was chosen for yellow/sinestro corps ring but he chose not to take it.
@@tylertinney8294well not really.
Yes he rejected the ring but it is not why ring didn't stay with him.
The exposure to green lanterns power made ring reject him.
Yellow lantern ring doesn't need to be accepted as it works like parasite.
The same goes for green lantern ring. As batman refuses to make peace with his parents death and thus still holds the fear that he felt that day in his heart.
Wait until someone in the bat family gets hurt or killed and Alfred will claim the power of Thor
So far the only confirmed DC character who can lift Mjolnir is Wonder Woman during the Marvel vs DC comic. Superman held it once, but that was only because of either a spell or Thor temporarily lifted the enchantment to help Superman.
Wonder Woman for sure. Maybe Aquaman, depending on the version. Other then that? I could see a good case for Big Barda. Or Hawkman and Hawkgirl, possibly.
Btw Spider Man is explicitly confirmed to be not worthy because of his unwillingness to kill (which neatly rules out Batman, Superman and many others). That is canon. I'm pretty sure the comic you're referring to has him use a duplicate or something similar. Mjolnir going for heroes willing to kill if needed makes perfect sense (Odin is a god of war and death from a religion all about a glorious death in battle). And considering you put Superman at the top it needs to be said: the enchantment was lifted at the time he wielded it, specifically because Thor trusted Clark would use it well and for a worthy cause, so he asked for the spell to be, temporarily, lifted. Which kinda proves to me that Superman wouldn't lift Mjolnir with the enchantment on. If we include crossovers as canon.
Why do people always think Superman doesn’t kill at all despite that time he laid out a giant grey hate monster to death.
He doesn’t kill mostly because he usually doesn’t have to but he has killed and has done it in modern times
@@creed8712 I completely agree.
Sorry but Spider-Man kills people all the time. No way he isn't dropping thugs left and right with his superpowered strength.
@@Dunybrook its been explicitly confirmed Peter (at least in the main continuity) is holding back his strength to a massive extent. There is no doubt he could casually one tap any normal human, but he chooses not to.
@@jeremyleonjonas7657 also the inconsistency of comics necessitated an excuse for why someone like The Wall isn’t just decimated
If I remember correctly when Marvel and DC had an official crossover (this was when they still sent in letters that were put inbthe comics) someone asked the question and Superman and Wonder Woman were stated to be able to lift Thor's hammer.
I feel like i shopuld mention that during an official crossover between Marvel and DC, Wonder Woman actually did lift the hammer and was granted Thor's power. (it was before her fight with Storm. Thor's hammer landed nearby and Wonder Woman picked it up and was granted Thor's power. She relinquesd it because she didn't want an unfair power up heading into her fight with Storm)
Also, while Superman did weild the hammer, it was later revealed that he was actually not worthy and Odin lifted the enchantment to allow Superman to use Thor's powers.
This is the first video I have watched of yours and I love it!
My suggestion is, Kyle Rayneronly one to wield ALL of the rings.
Nightwing
Wonder Woman
Flash (Barry & Wally)
Superman/girl
Swamp Thing
Kyle Raynor
Forager
Black Adam
Two Face?
Ivy
Uncle Ben/Jonathan Kent
Alfred
Lois Lane
Bibbo
Any sufficiently powerful magic user...may be able to get around Odins Incarnation upon the Hammer. (I.e. Constantine, Mister Mxyzptlk, The Wizard Shazam, Raven or The Spectre...as just a few examples )
I realize *Uncle Ben is Marvel Comics* *..not Detective Comics...* but he just seemed like he HAD to be put with Jonathan. 😊
Nightwing and Superman are my top choices for wielding Mjolnir, they're both extremely pure of heart and definitely worthy of wielding such great power.
I'd pick Nightwing If I was Mjolnir.
Superman doesn't need it, he can and has lifted the hammer before through sheer force, although in the same story the hammer considered him worthy afterwards.
Except we've seen that Superman can't.
We also don't know what actually qualifies as worthy. Lots of ideas -- some good ones too -- but nothing confirmed.
But unwilling to kill so neither could do it
Superman, Wonder Woman, John Stewart, Aquaman, Captain Marvel (original Billy Batson), and, my wild card, Green Arrow.
Man, imagine Ollie firing Mjolnir from his bow.
doubt wonder woman can, her idea of a perfect world is where she became president and enslaved all the men in the world
SUperman ( i think the non kill rule will be a issue)
Wonder Woman 200%
John Stewart ( i love the character, but i feel his whole guilt complex can be a problem)
Captain Marvel ( same as Superman)
Green Arrow ( not sure i give 50%)
Aquaman ( i want to say 100%, but part of me say 95%)
I would probably hedge my bets on a Green Lantern. The whole will thing and overcoming fear and all that.
@@rafaelsantos-nl9jd superman never said he has an no kill rule. He just think not killing is right thing to do, but will if there no other option
@@Spartan-Four-Twenty Green lanterns have courage, but not often a pure heart. They all have bouts with selfishness or foolish pride or the like.
Superman and probably Wonder Woman as well
These videos are amazing!
Excellent video guys. Wonderful commentary! I honestly believe that the barometer of measurement pertaining the hammer’s magical enchantment, extends far beyond solely possessing nobility and being pure of heart, when wielding such a weapon.
Thanks for watching! Yeah it’s definitely more than just the qualities that we discussed, we just feel like the main, base quality one needs to lift it is righteousness
2:47 ahh i see so Thor is not worthy either then by that logic one selfish act never worthy again
Having a Pure Heart isn't enough, you need to have the will to Take a life in order to protect the innocent and that's why Spider-Man isn't worthy while Captain America is. I believe Wonder Woman is worthy but Superman, Nightwing and Shazam won't be worthy because they refuse to take a life
Nightwing is. He beat the joker to death. Batman actted to bring him back from the edge of death, but Grayson was willing to do the deed if Batman didn't perform life saving measures at the last minute.
Superman doesn't have a no kill rule, he just avoids doing it because he's not a bully and it's an easy way out. The proof is he went for the kill against Doomsday with how powerful he is already he doesn't really need Thor's hammer, Superman constantly nerfs himself around people already.
I'm pretty new to the channel but I love what you guys are doing!!
Peter Parker has made immense sacrifices-more than most Marvel characters. He acts selflessly in an instant, valuing even the lives of his enemies. His character is unwaveringly noble, and at his core, he simply strives to be a good person who uses his power responsibly. In return, all he desires is a peaceful night out with MJ and maybe some cookies with Aunt May. Who could be more worthy than that?
Maybe that's what's wrong. He values life too much. You must be ready to kill without a second thought if it is needed
Wonder Woman is the best candidate. Everyone else is suspect
There was a story back in the 80's that pointed out that Batman can't wield a Green Lantern ring. Because you have to be "without fear". Nightwing can, though.
Cool! Give a ring to Daredevil, then!
I think Superman is the most worthy and can lift it. Batman may move it back and forth but I don't think he can fully lifted. Besides Superman the only other hero I think is Wonder Woman.
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Yo loved the vid guys.
Wonder Woman 100%
But the one I bet no one would say....Damian Wayne.
I know! I know! But hear me out.
The problem is that we have to define what makes someone worthy? It's not what we think is worthy. It's what Odin, an Asgardian and the king of Asgard, thinks is worthy. In fact, Cap can only lift Mjolnir when he has the warrior spirit. Spiderman can't lift it because he is unwilling to kill. Also, if Spidey can't lift it, than Nightwing can't either, as they are very similar characters.
From my perspective, Odin views Thor as being worthy of being a prince/king of Asgard. What does this entail? Well, we can base it off of Thor himself. A good leader, a warriors spirit, a selfless desire to use their powers and skills for the betterment of their people, a compassion for the innocent, a pride in ones heritage and personal skills, and a willingness to do what they have to in order protect their people and the innocent even if it means killing.
Damian fits that perfectly. At least as he grows up a bit he does. He has a warriors spirit, he grows into a leader, he cares for the innocent and strives to make the world a better place (sometimes in the wrong way, but still lol), he has compassion for the innocent and his people (look at all of the stray animals he takes in), he has pride in his skill and his heritage (both as an AL Ghul and as a Wayne), and he is willing to kill if he has to.
Small note, I'm pretty sure it was implied that cap was always worthy, but didn't want to show off.
Mjolnir, as I understand it, is either worthy or unworthy, with no inbetween.
Also, I could see a matured Damien possibly being able to lif the hammer
@Sirhc_B8207 In the MCU, the director said that Cap chose not to lift it out of respect, yes.
In the comics, however, Cap has been shown multiple times to not be able to lift it, and it is very clearly shown he isn't always worthy.
That is a common misconception. It is very clearly shown that characters can gain or lose worthiness of the hammer. Thor literally has an entire character arc about this almost every 10 years or so lol. Even in the MCU, they mention that Thor has to check if he is still worthy in Endgame.
In fact, Cap has only been able to lift Mjolnir three times, and all were in moments of crises. Once when he was on a battlefield and his team was losing, once as "The Captain" which is a more... morally nuanced character, and once while fighting the evil version of himself in a very intense fight.
What game were you playing as Nightwing
It’s a suit mod for Batman: Arkham Knight on PC
Wonder Woman certainly. She has in the comics
Non cannon
@@King--jerry--251it is cannon
@@mahdimarvi-hi9xt it's not
@@King--jerry--251 it is
@@King--jerry--251 it is
Isn’t it “With the great worthiness comes great powers” since the worthy doesn’t have to be strong but if he’s worthy he will have the power of Thor? First time here in the channel and reall digging the vibe. A new subscriber 😉.
Welcome!🦸♂️🦸♂️ also yeah it makes way more sense when you flip it the other way lol
Yall have a good vibe hahah keep it up yall
Superman, the look on Thor's face when Supes catches Mjolnir and sends it back with interest. If anyone DC side is worthy its the man of steel.
Dude I hate when people say Superman isn’t relatable or his stories are “boring” because at that point a character like Spider-Man is boring to you then Superman and Spider-Man are the 2 best examples the the man part of their name is way more important than what comes before it their best stories aren’t the super crazy fights but it’s what they do with the powers that they have and how it’s a struggle to always make the right choice
Alfred can lift
7:54 really psyched me out lol, thought you were gonna say Wally west and Barry
One thing that would keep it out of many heroes hands, just as it does in Marvel is that a common criteria is the willingness to kill if necessary. Not that the wielder wants to kill, but are willing and capable of doing it if necessary. A lot of heroes will refuse to kill, especially Bats and most versions of Supes. In the crossover he was able to, but ONLY because Odin specifically allowed it for that specific situation. Afterwards, he was unable to.
Barry’s flash should be worthy
Superman, John Stewart, Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman are all good choices. Maybe Starfire.
No not john stewart he is not worthy hold thor hammer cause he's a
1. Overly serious demeanor.
2. Lacks charismatic presence.
3. Often overshadowed by other Green Lanterns.
4. Limited character development.
5. Perceived as a political tool in narratives.
And the worst part of him character like guy garden beat john in terms of heroic how guy garden can make superboy-prime shut up how
(In green lantern sinestro corp special full 2007) you can see guy garden has made a version of supergirl to hang out and flirting with superboy-prime in his prison and superboy-prime was enjoying
Did john stewart ever made character like superboy-prime shut up and chill the answere is NO
@@صالحاليحي-و4يI disagree. Thor is generally a pretty serious character in the comics. John Stewart pulled Hawkgirl and Vixen in JLU so the man has charisma. John Stewart is the only lantern whose willpower exceeds the ring’s power, something even Hal “God of will” Jordan didn’t achieve. I won’t argue on the character development side because that’s kinda subjective to how well you feel pieces of media portray a character.
No idea what the last paragraph is even supposed to mean.
Wrong. While John Stewart is known for his remarkable willpower, he is not the only Lantern whose willpower can rival or exceed the power of the ring. Other Lanterns, including Hal Jordan, have also demonstrated extraordinary willpower.@@supermrmainman
@@supermrmainman Several Green Lanterns have demonstrated impressive feats of willpower that could rival or exceed John Stewart's, including:
1. **Hal Jordan**:
- Hal once overcame the Parallax entity, which feeds on fear, and managed to wield the full power of the Green Lantern Corps to face immense threats.
- In "The Green Lantern: Emerald Dawn" series, he also showed extraordinary willpower when he pushed himself to his limits against insurmountable odds.
2. **Guy Gardner**:
- Guy has displayed an indomitable spirit, famously resisting mind control and in "Green Lantern: Rebirth," he showcased his resilience against the influence of Sinestro and Parallax.
3. **Kyle Rayner**:
- Kyle, as the last Green Lantern after the destruction of the Corps, tapped into his creative willpower to create constructs that rivalled those of experienced Lanterns. He notably used his artistic abilities to devise solutions in critical situations.
These characters have all demonstrated willpower in specific scenarios that can rival John Stewart's determination and strength.
It's important to know kyle and john did was under controled by paralax and they succssed it get away from him kyle did something john can do also
The green lantern the who beat paralax is hal jordan cause hal is the most bravest superhero ever beside daredevil
I didn’t think about Starfire but true. Also W on not overlooking J’onn.
Superman, Wonder woman, Nightwing
From this 3 only WW.
@@markomarinic3073 Superman has lifted the hammer before, that is why every other comment list him
@@davidcobb2682 Which is not accurate. Odin literally allowed him to use it otherwise he wouldn't be able to use it.
And i know, People just ignore the Context of that Scene.
@@markomarinic3073 Congrats on being the only doubter
@@davidcobb2682 Congrats on being ignorant. Man, you could literally check it out here on TH-cam but then you would have to admit of being wrong afterwards and therefore you won't.
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Love this video! We should do a cross-verse collab
Captain Marvel
Batman
Nightwing
Superman
batman cant for the same reason spiderman cant, you have to be able to kill the truly dispicable and evil villains
@@imaturechild24 Not only that, you must also be willing to kill a Friend or a beloved person if it means to safe many innocent.
4:50 if I get superpowers with my boy we both ending up like Hancock lol
Next video idea, who in marvel would represent the best aspects of each lantern corp.
Example: who would be the best Green Lantern
Green Lantern: Spider Man, Captain America
Red Lantern: Hulk, Wolverine, Punisher
I dunno who else could represent violet, orange, black or white
This is a stellar idea
Great video guys
Thanks man🤝
Man, first thing I thought, when I opened the video was "It's got to be Shazam, but for sure he's going to forget about him. Everybody always forgets Shazam." I'm glad to see some Shazam/Captain Marvel love here, despite him being one of the less popular DC heores.
"Mjölnir is almost the stuff of folklore at this point"
Wait until you guys hear about a little place called Scandinavia.
Superman; Wonder Woman; Batman (with reservations).
I think Hal Jordan would, given that the original idea of Hal as a fundamentally honest and fearless man, which is why he was chosen. (Of course, per John Broome, that makes him a romantic, who tilts with windmills.)
Karate Kid. He's a genuinely good person, a top tier fighter, and royalty by virtue of his marriage to Princess Projectra. He checks all the boxes.
I feel like Starfire has that innocent desire to help, possibly making her worthy much like Nightwing.
Considering Batman literally became a green lantern he is the choice lol
Spiderman not worthy? SPIDERMAN?! Damn, not even you guys want Spiderman to be happy.
One of Odins' requirements to be worthy is the willingness to kill. Mjolnir is a warriors weapon, not a good person's weapon.
@@eccehobo I thought that Spiderman has killed before? Guess it depends on the Spiderman.
So this list rly just comes down to WW as the only DC hero willing to kill and has done it before.
Nightwing is a may be because he did beat the Joker to death. Batman revived him, but Grayson was willing to do the deed.
Batman is my fav superhero of ANYTHING but even I can tell that he’s got way too much hate and revenge inside of him to be worthy of it.
Great video, happy to subscribe! But, GREAT KRYPTON I have opinions, lol.
Martian Manhunter and Aquaman are both good picks too. The latter, as a king and warrior himself, who's willing to go as far as the kingdom needs, would be worthy for sure.
Mjolnir works off Asgardian heroic custom; which means not only being good of heart, but willing to take a life if necessary to defend the kingdom and keep it safe.
My thought for Superman picking up Mjonir, Thor drops it after a heavy blow, and Superman picks it up to hand it off like, "You drop something?"
I think Kyle Rayner would be worthy. He was worthy of the White Lantern. It's not equal to mjolnir, but it's something? Lol
Shazam is another severly underrated character. People will never know what they missed by fucking up the Shazam filmm franchise.
It could have been Harry Potter with superheroes. Especially exploring the magical realms.
His best comic by far is
1. shazam and the seven magic lands
2. superman shazam first thunder
3. Shazam power of hope.
For anyone looking start with these.
Martian Manhunter,
red tornado (who is equal to vision pretty) , walley west, green lantern (john stewart), beast boy, PLOT TWIST DARK SEID he's considered a cosmic being possibly above and most if bot all cosmic beings have lifted or broken Thor's Hammer
You don't know what makes one worthy. It's a warrior's determination. You WILL win this battle. Whatever it takes
I think one aspect to lift Mjoiner is being relentless. Cap, Thor, and Storm all are characters that are ones who never relent even when every others give in. Superman, Nightwing, Shazam, and WW all share that aspect as well