True. Not worth it. Also this was in taiwan? I had a bit of frostbite driving on -35c on moped (I was 15y and drove 2.5km with headcover and helmet). Does taiwan ever have colder than 0c?
@SamiJuntunen1 He said at night and in areas with mountains which are around its possible, it was poorly thought out though because they can tell a chemical burn like dry ice vs frostbite very easily you don't even need a doctor a nurse can tell.
Dude was literally tied down so he couldn't back out...As stupid as this whole thing is, I feel like that should be considered. The other guy is a damn psychopath.
good point. i'm trying to think of a word that's more extreme than what he actually is, but i can't so i'll just say that's bdsm+necrophile behavior. not one or the other, specifically both.
I do not know the laws of their country but ik in the USA they'd probably consider a lot of different things, such as being tied down. Reminds me of how the slender man case went because 1 person planned it and the other did it but they were charged differently according to their part in the event.
Not to mention that the friend had lied that he was threatened by gangs, rather than just in normal debt. So the dude may have only gone along out of fear for the friend's life.
Yeah fr, it's kinda like with the Rotenburg Cannibal where the victim fully consented to being killed and eaten. One has to wonder whether it's possible someone is even fit to consent in situations like these..
My thoughts too, the dude who didnt do anything probably manipulated the other dude. BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY that dude gave up his legs for a mil. They should study his brain if thats the case, if there even is something in there
Not only did you loose both your legs, but you were also charged with insurance fraud. This might genuinely be the BIGGEST L I’ve ever seen… they gained absolutely nothing from this and pretty much lost everything.
Scams are so common, that people with legitimate injuries have to jump through ridiculous hoops and often times have to sue the insurance company to get what they are entitled to through insurance. Screw these people.
Even worse are people that will drain someone's bank account, and their response is, "The bank will just refund them anyways." I hate when people act like money is infinite. It really isn't. You're just inspiring policy changes and making it harder for normal people to live. Makes me feel bad when someone needs an item from a locked case and their only option is to wait 15+ minutes for maybe someone to show up and help.
Some of us are actual amputees and the thought of doing that on-purpose for some "payday" is bizarre. If you succeed, then you live the rest of your life without your limbs & looking over your shoulder, waiting to be caught because you know you broke the law. That kind of money isn't even enough to disappear into a better life & the odds of you getting that "payday" are slim. Insurance companies are notorious for not paying out like they're suppose to & they also investigate claims that they find suspicious with a fine-toothed comb. It took 3 months for a car insurance company to pay out my totaled car payment due to full-coverage. They investigated TWICE before finally releasing a $3000 check. What a weird scam to damage your good health permanently for a POSSIBLE payout. I have no pity for someone who DECIDES to become an amputee for money. That's disgusting & disturbing. Shameful.
A women ran a red light and took off the front of my car, totaled it of course, I had a police report putting her entirely at fault so my insurance company wasn't involved at all. After a week if radio silence and taking either my sister's car or the bus to and from work I had to threaten legal action against her stupid insurers just to get a damn rental to get back and forth to work while they investigated how much they maybe would pay out. They paid pretty quickly after that though
@@christopherjones8448 Car insurance companies never seem to care that you need a vehicle in the meantime! Even your own insurance when it's an accident not involving anyone else.
The fact that all these people didn't even see a single penny from loosing their limbs, and even got charged felony as a bonus, man that's the funniest part of it.
and making it worse is that he just straight up lied because he knew that losing money to fucking crypto trading would make chang just laugh at that guy
Not only was this poorly thought out, it had to be horrifically painful to go through as well. Dry ice is so cold it literally BURNS and freezes at the same time. Just a small area of contact hurts like hell. I couldn't imagine letting the entirety of BOTH feet be exposed like that
One time in winter I accidentally sprayed butane all over my hand while trying to refill my blowtorch , that was probably the most painful coldness I’ve ever experienced. That don’t even begin to compare what happened to this guy , bloody hell
you know what's crazy is that no one, and I mean no one understands how nerve pain works.. If you lose a part of your body that part will hurt forever until the day you d1e
I can't get my insurance company to shell out what they promise when it's ACTUALLY legitimate how the hell would I expect to get anything out of them with a fake situation.
you know what's crazy is that no one, and I mean no one understands how nerve pain works.. If you lose a part of your body that part will hurt forever until the day you d1e
"OK, so I've got a plan. You put your legs in a bucket of dry ice, get both your legs amputated, then we claim on insurance 1.7mil and split it 50/50" "Sounds good!"
The dude who lost his legs is definitely not the brightest bulb. But his crypto "friend" needs to get at least 1.5x the amount of jail time with no parole
As someone who works as an adjuster for a major insurance company it shocks me how stupid people think insurance companies are. I don't say this proudly but most big insurance company's fraud investigation teams are more effective than a lot of local police departments as far as catching people.
And sometimes you guys see shit that isn’t there. -she said she had depression but look! She’s smiling in a photograph! -He said he couldn’t sit in a truck for 8 hours a day, but look! Here he is walking to the mailbox! -She says she needs a walker, but look! She put her walker in the back seat of her car and then moved to the front seat without it! Almost 3 cases I know personally where you guys have screwed people over.
I guess that's because insurance company fraud Investigators tend to have at least average intelligence - Unlike most criminals OR local police officers.
Not even two minutes in, but this story reminds me of another story about some worker who was slowly but deliberately poisoning himself with mercury (of which prolonged exposure can cause long-term/permanent issues) to make bank from a hazardous workplace lawsuit. Like the fool in this video, he was caught, the company wasn't found liable, and now he has to deal with the consequences of long-term mercy poisoning. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Person, I don't mean to be rude, but you've commented on this video THRICE. Like, at some point, the shock of this story has to wear off from you, right? And if you have so much to say about it, why not say it all in one go?
you know what's crazy is that no one, and I mean no one understands how nerve pain works.. If you lose a part of your body that part will hurt forever until the day you d1e
As somebody who is currently on worker’s comp for an injury, you get NOTHING for an injury. So if you’re considering faking an injury or staging an injury, actually just don’t. The insurance company actively works to pay you less than you deserve, too. So you have to fight to get a livable salary. TLDR: Don’t fake it or purposefully get injured for the money. It’ll always be less. Just get a better job.
He's incredibly lucky the bucket was too short to surpass his knees, cause I know he wasn't considering the quality difference in walking with prosthetics below vs above the knee
It would probably only be painful for a few minutes then you'd lose feeling in your limb. Just like how ice baths only feel "cold" for a bit then you get used to it.
No matter how many times I hear this, it’s just insane how someone would be willing to undergo that amount of pain and lose something pretty much irreplaceable just for some money.
As a Taiwanese, I have to say despite our health care are pretty good, but even though the dude got the money it won't even be enough to cover all the medical treatment. Also, to get a frostbite in Taiwan during Spring is almost as rare as getting a five star rating from Grodon Ramsay.
I’ve got screwed up knees, and I’ve had very dark thoughts about getting my knees fixed one way or the other, but freezing them off has never been one of them.
It's shocking to hear about such extreme and ludicrous scams. It's a grim reminder of the lengths some people are willing to go for money, at the expense of their own wellbeing and legality. This definitely warrants more exploration, reflection and caution towards scams.
Something I like to say is that "If you go into working with people, you'll be surprised by new levels of stupid every year" which has never failed me yet
Even a few seconds of contact with dry ice on bare skin is enough to cause serious injury. 10+ hours was total overkill, and definitely torture. Honestly the whole thing reads a bit like coercion/manipulation rather than one man willfully putting himself through something he has to be zip tied into place for so he didn’t bail and losing both of his legs for the sake of .. another man’s debt? Especially suspicious that his friend photographed it when it happened. I am speculating I know, but it seems like the more likely option in my mind-
As a Taiwanese, I’m so glad my country’s finally getting some exposure on Charlie’s channel. But at the same time I feel so ashamed to be from the same country as that idiot who lost both legs for a insurance scam. This was on Taiwanese news last week and when my friends and I saw it we just couldn’t believe it at first. How could anyone be so incredibly stupid 😅 Note that Taiwan isn’t too far from the equator and we don’t get any snow at sea level. Going to see snow on the mountain is actually considered somewhat of a popular activity for family, friends and couples because it’s rare. There’s absolutely no way you could get frostbite that bad simply by riding a motorcycle at night. It’s literally a minuscule brain scheme.
An insurance fraud scheme mixed with cryptocurrency losses is just such a match made in heaven somehow lmao. I feel bad that the guy had to lose his feet but I guess both of these guys should've slept on this stupid scheme before actually doing it.
I just looked it up. I order to get frostbite in 30 minutes, it would have to be 0 degrees fahrenheit. So in order for his scooter plan to be believable it would have to be extremely cold out. And thats just one issue.
I am currently studying insurance pre licensing, and there are a lot of regulations and laws put into place when you sign with a policy, most of which, protect the customer and some that protect the insurer. Any big claim is looked into by a whole underwriting department, in instances of death the company has a right to know information about an autopsy and if they are alive and get dismembered or an accident happens they have a right to know what happened and conduct their own investigation on the matter if i remember correctly. Example if you take out a life insurance policy for 1 million dollars and you try to commit suicide, your claim will be denied within the first two years of the activation of your policy. There are multiple clauses in the contracts that will attempt to minimize the scamming of the insured and the insurer so in short yes, it is really damn hard to scam insurance companies.
Spongbob: Am I the biggest loser on the beach?! Chang: No, I am. I gave my legs frostbite to the point of amputation to scam the insurance company. Then I got caught.
I would like to point out that he claimed he got frostbite severe enough to where he required amputation, from riding a scooter at night... *in Taiwan.* Quite literally the only places in Taiwan that break freezing at all are the mountains, and even then the very top of the highest mountain in Taiwan (Yu Shan) only *just barely* breaks freezing during the Winter months. So unless he rode his scooter at the top of a literal mountain in the middle of the night, the claim makes legitimately *zero* sense. And they live there! How on Earth did they think this would work??
The cost for insurers to deal with and pay out fraudsters is baked into innocent individual's insurance rates. The money always comes from somewhere. It's just like how shoplifters raise the price for all goods in the grocery store.
In the 70's my grandpa built a roll cage that he could put in and out of cars and a ramp. He would then crash trust fund kids from his colleges luxury cars in the middle of the night. They would get the newest model of the vehicle and he would get a percentage of the insurance pay out. Apparently since there weren't any cameras back then he made about 6 figures and never got caught.
The compensation for pain and suffering only makes you whole again. It’s never really worth the pain suffered. It just tries to return what was taken from you
7:31 TIL cutting of your own feet for an insurance scam is not illegal as long as you don't actually follow through with submitting paperwork. If you just cut off your own feet, you're golden.
"1.7 million isn't worth it, you should go for at least 8 figures" Are you crazy???????? I wouldn't give up a single leg for a billion dollars, nothing is worth losing a limb.
As somebody who actually is disabled, I can tell you that having to deal with insurance companies and the government is something you want to AVOID at all costs. It's the most insufferable, painful experience.
The job of insurance companies is to make sure you get back as LITTLE money has contractually possible. I can’t imagine anyone has had much success in trying to scam them
$1.7m is basically a 40 year career at median household income in the United States. Just raw gross wage, not including asset appreciation or anything. Dude literally preferred to give up walking and everything that goes with it-to not work a regular ass job like everybody else 🤣
When my s/o lost his fingers violently and traumatically, I gotta say, insurance money was the last thing on our minds. The years of therapy and PTSD was definitely not worth it. It was a bonus, got him the computer he adores but think he'd rather have his fingers back.
What did I learn from this video: - Insurance scams are tough to do. - We are actually just getting dummer as a species. - The logo is a hammer, not a penis.
I’ve been in the insurance industry for a little bit now and I’m telling you right now this is not even the dumbest attempt at insurance fraud I have seen.
@@Godkin645 I could honestly write an entire essay about this but let me just say you would not believe the LENGTHS people have gone to to fake their own deaths for life insurance pay outs 😭
@@Godkin645 one time a man lit his own car on fire and drove it off an embankment with a dead pig in it as if they wouldn’t be able to tell the body was a pig body….. and he would have gotten away with it to if it weren’t for DNA testing 😭
#1 rule of scamming. Never scam professional scammers (insurance companies)
True. Not worth it. Also this was in taiwan? I had a bit of frostbite driving on -35c on moped (I was 15y and drove 2.5km with headcover and helmet). Does taiwan ever have colder than 0c?
@SamiJuntunen1 He said at night and in areas with mountains which are around its possible, it was poorly thought out though because they can tell a chemical burn like dry ice vs frostbite very easily you don't even need a doctor a nurse can tell.
And make sure it's at least some months between taking out the policy and acting on it.
lmao facts
Unless you can get away with it 🙂↔️.. twice
freezing your own legs off for MAYBE some insurance money is genuine lobotomite behaviour
Charrlie inspires me, My parents said if I reach 10k, they'd buy me a professional camera for recording... Pls guys Im
literally begging you!.
yep
@@MbitaChizi wow, my first bot reply!
-Unless they hoped to get Reinforced Tendons with that money- /j
@@knosat6643 hmm
Dude was literally tied down so he couldn't back out...As stupid as this whole thing is, I feel like that should be considered. The other guy is a damn psychopath.
good point. i'm trying to think of a word that's more extreme than what he actually is, but i can't so i'll just say that's bdsm+necrophile behavior. not one or the other, specifically both.
I do not know the laws of their country but ik in the USA they'd probably consider a lot of different things, such as being tied down. Reminds me of how the slender man case went because 1 person planned it and the other did it but they were charged differently according to their part in the event.
Not to mention that the friend had lied that he was threatened by gangs, rather than just in normal debt. So the dude may have only gone along out of fear for the friend's life.
Yeah fr, it's kinda like with the Rotenburg Cannibal where the victim fully consented to being killed and eaten. One has to wonder whether it's possible someone is even fit to consent in situations like these..
My thoughts too, the dude who didnt do anything probably manipulated the other dude. BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY that dude gave up his legs for a mil. They should study his brain if thats the case, if there even is something in there
Not only did you loose both your legs, but you were also charged with insurance fraud. This might genuinely be the BIGGEST L I’ve ever seen… they gained absolutely nothing from this and pretty much lost everything.
yeah
Now he knows that his friend is a true friend, and its priceless lol. Aint no way any of my friends can convince me to do stupid shit like this.
What a trade
@@norbertcsaszar4746when you have friends like that, at least you don’t need enemies
well he can now go on disability now, not a million dollars but he won't have to work
I feel like no amount of money is worth losing your ability to walk
@@K9R391KLMcNutt
@@K9R391KLwhat did furrys do to u
1 billion?
@@K9R391KLball gazer . Looking at the round profile pictures up and close.
@@Universalgreenieu have to shame zoophilia. ALLWAYS SHAME IT. shit aint right
Scams are so common, that people with legitimate injuries have to jump through ridiculous hoops and often times have to sue the insurance company to get what they are entitled to through insurance. Screw these people.
At the end of the day, if they're stealing from the innocents for no purposes and no gains but their own's, they scammed nobody but themselves.
@@ozenthelewdable5427 ?? If they stole from the innocent solely for their own gain, they didn’t scam anyone??
Even worse are people that will drain someone's bank account, and their response is, "The bank will just refund them anyways."
I hate when people act like money is infinite. It really isn't. You're just inspiring policy changes and making it harder for normal people to live.
Makes me feel bad when someone needs an item from a locked case and their only option is to wait 15+ minutes for maybe someone to show up and help.
I mean, you have to sue because the insurance companies just don't want to pay out.
@@ozenthelewdable5427 What are you trying to say?
Some of us are actual amputees and the thought of doing that on-purpose for some "payday" is bizarre. If you succeed, then you live the rest of your life without your limbs & looking over your shoulder, waiting to be caught because you know you broke the law. That kind of money isn't even enough to disappear into a better life & the odds of you getting that "payday" are slim. Insurance companies are notorious for not paying out like they're suppose to & they also investigate claims that they find suspicious with a fine-toothed comb. It took 3 months for a car insurance company to pay out my totaled car payment due to full-coverage. They investigated TWICE before finally releasing a $3000 check. What a weird scam to damage your good health permanently for a POSSIBLE payout. I have no pity for someone who DECIDES to become an amputee for money. That's disgusting & disturbing. Shameful.
A women ran a red light and took off the front of my car, totaled it of course, I had a police report putting her entirely at fault so my insurance company wasn't involved at all. After a week if radio silence and taking either my sister's car or the bus to and from work I had to threaten legal action against her stupid insurers just to get a damn rental to get back and forth to work while they investigated how much they maybe would pay out. They paid pretty quickly after that though
@@christopherjones8448 Car insurance companies never seem to care that you need a vehicle in the meantime! Even your own insurance when it's an accident not involving anyone else.
It wasn't even enough money to get robot legs smh. Like maybe if it was for a billion but one million isn't enough.
This would've worked better if they just sold the dude's legs instead.
yep
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21why is that crazy? anyone is better than those guys trying to scam insurance.
When the college debts hit 😅
honestly he shouldve sold one kidney or some of his liver and he wouldve been richer and fully functioning
I never heard of it happening in missouri, I don't think it even made the news here
The fact that all these people didn't even see a single penny from loosing their limbs, and even got charged felony as a bonus, man that's the funniest part of it.
I kinda just feel horrified. Nobody deserves this kind of suffering, no matter how dumb.
@@CaptainSpaceCat17some do
@masashikazeeit's a bot
and making it worse is that he just straight up lied because he knew that losing money to fucking crypto trading would make chang just laugh at that guy
@@CaptainSpaceCat17
You do if you sign up for it.
The first red flag should've been when your crypto bro friend says "hey bro I got an idea to make us money"
ain't no running from this one!
Insurance worker: Uhh should we give him the money, even though it was a scam?
Insurance boss: Don’t, he ain’t coming.
He doesn't have a leg to stand on.
Not only was this poorly thought out, it had to be horrifically painful to go through as well. Dry ice is so cold it literally BURNS and freezes at the same time. Just a small area of contact hurts like hell. I couldn't imagine letting the entirety of BOTH feet be exposed like that
One time in winter I accidentally sprayed butane all over my hand while trying to refill my blowtorch , that was probably the most painful coldness I’ve ever experienced.
That don’t even begin to compare what happened to this guy , bloody hell
@@HPsawus OUCH 😣
You mad annoying…
@@Delta97976suck on a glock weeb
@@Delta97976 what? How?
It’s so unbelievably idiotic of a plan that you would think it was from a movie💀
it was a cut scene from moonfall /j
A bad movie
you know what's crazy is that no one, and I mean no one understands how nerve pain works.. If you lose a part of your body that part will hurt forever until the day you d1e
Oh, the k dramas coming out of this will be epic!
@SordidusFellatioit happened in Taiwan, not China
I can't get my insurance company to shell out what they promise when it's ACTUALLY legitimate how the hell would I expect to get anything out of them with a fake situation.
He 100% begged his "friend" to let him leave just a few hours into that torture.
stupidest insurance scam ever? the world has yet to see what i’ve been cooking up
nice try
Let him cook now
Finally a normal comment
He is Cooking something beyond our Human brain
lol
Imagine getting convinced to split the money for your own legs. If im losing my legs, im not splitting shit
Well, you will be splitting from your legs
Lol actually this
you know what's crazy is that no one, and I mean no one understands how nerve pain works.. If you lose a part of your body that part will hurt forever until the day you d1e
I mean, once it happens it's not like you're going to be able to stand up for yourself.
@@echolow5928 heh
The worst part is that he didn't do it to himself, but to his friend. As if the guy who didn't get amputated deserved to get a cut of the money.
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21 what does that have to do with literally anything?
@@wazzledazzle9309it’s a bot. Don’t engage, just report
@@wazzledazzle9309 It’s a bot, it spams the same reply under every post
"OK, so I've got a plan. You put your legs in a bucket of dry ice, get both your legs amputated, then we claim on insurance 1.7mil and split it 50/50"
"Sounds good!"
he deserves more as he obviously smarter than the other guy, as it wasn't him losing the legs
The dude who lost his legs is definitely not the brightest bulb.
But his crypto "friend" needs to get at least 1.5x the amount of jail time with no parole
3:35 “Mastermind” is a VERY generous nickname given to someone who could’ve hatched this scheme 💀💀
Imagine being Chang hearing his friend be like, “Yeah man like I would totally be the one to lose my legs but like I can’t…”
As someone who works as an adjuster for a major insurance company it shocks me how stupid people think insurance companies are. I don't say this proudly but most big insurance company's fraud investigation teams are more effective than a lot of local police departments as far as catching people.
Charrlie inspires me, My parents said if I reach 10k, they'd buy me a professional camera for recording... Pls guys Im
literally begging you!.
that is because cops are supposed to prove guilt in order to make arrests. insurance companies see all claims as evidence of guilt
do absolutely everything to avoid making any payouts right?
And sometimes you guys see shit that isn’t there.
-she said she had depression but look! She’s smiling in a photograph!
-He said he couldn’t sit in a truck for 8 hours a day, but look! Here he is walking to the mailbox!
-She says she needs a walker, but look! She put her walker in the back seat of her car and then moved to the front seat without it!
Almost 3 cases I know personally where you guys have screwed people over.
I guess that's because insurance company fraud Investigators
tend to have at least average intelligence
- Unlike most criminals OR local police officers.
Not even two minutes in, but this story reminds me of another story about some worker who was slowly but deliberately poisoning himself with mercury (of which prolonged exposure can cause long-term/permanent issues) to make bank from a hazardous workplace lawsuit.
Like the fool in this video, he was caught, the company wasn't found liable, and now he has to deal with the consequences of long-term mercy poisoning.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Sacrificing your limbs in hopes of scamming the insurance company is beyond taking a gamble… that is straight up psychopathic behavior.
Person, I don't mean to be rude, but you've commented on this video THRICE. Like, at some point, the shock of this story has to wear off from you, right? And if you have so much to say about it, why not say it all in one go?
@@HalucygenoLMAO
Could’ve been more psychopathic. People kill their partners for insurance money
@@Halucygeno replies have a limit. The comment would be too long. The other would probably be lost slready
The absolute insanity to amputate limbs for the hope of a moderate amount of money.
A million dollars in the third world is enough for your bloodline to thrive for decades.
same@@p-__
@@p-__ wow
you know what's crazy is that no one, and I mean no one understands how nerve pain works.. If you lose a part of your body that part will hurt forever until the day you d1e
Feet off
As somebody who is currently on worker’s comp for an injury, you get NOTHING for an injury. So if you’re considering faking an injury or staging an injury, actually just don’t. The insurance company actively works to pay you less than you deserve, too. So you have to fight to get a livable salary.
TLDR: Don’t fake it or purposefully get injured for the money. It’ll always be less. Just get a better job.
yep
the comment is very informative so thank you.
but wdym just get a better job😂
Sounds exactly like what an insurance company would tell us
Yeah I’m too injured to work, but not injured enough to get the needed surgery. It’s not a fun place to be.
worker's comp IS a well-documented scam though. It was created to shield bad employers not to help employees.
That friend must have ungodly charisma
He's incredibly lucky the bucket was too short to surpass his knees, cause I know he wasn't considering the quality difference in walking with prosthetics below vs above the knee
I can't believe he chose to do it by putting his legs in dry ice for 10 hours. That had to have been insanely painful
That's why he was tied up
@@justahugenerd1278what is there a source for that
@@justahugenerd1278nvm I watched the vidoe
It would probably only be painful for a few minutes then you'd lose feeling in your limb. Just like how ice baths only feel "cold" for a bit then you get used to it.
@@keshmo12yeah totally didn’t hurt
From the Reddit post, it doesn’t sound consensual. When the pain got unbearable, Chan tried to leave but Zhang tied him down with zip ties.
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21what?
Its a bot , just report them 👍🏼@oznyx3935
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21what?
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21 Cool?
It's a bot guys
No matter how many times I hear this, it’s just insane how someone would be willing to undergo that amount of pain and lose something pretty much irreplaceable just for some money.
As a Taiwanese, I have to say despite our health care are pretty good, but even though the dude got the money it won't even be enough to cover all the medical treatment. Also, to get a frostbite in Taiwan during Spring is almost as rare as getting a five star rating from Grodon Ramsay.
Didn't it say the $10,000 got seized?
The fact that a Florida Man still somehow ties into this is hilarious. Florida really can't catch a break lol
Florida man didn't even have to get paid, he was just happy to lob some legs off.
Launching a frostbite insurance scam?
Well, I guess they're taking 'cold hard cash' to a whole new level.
That's actually kinda funny
Ba dum..tsst
Lol
"Insurance companies HATE this one simple trick!"
I’ve got screwed up knees, and I’ve had very dark thoughts about getting my knees fixed one way or the other, but freezing them off has never been one of them.
The guy took pictures to use as blackmail in case his buddy didn't want to pay up. In fraud, just as in finance, you have to cover your bases.
I can’t help feel bad for the guy.
Fact that he didn't even get the money out of it is so funny, lost both his legs for absolutely nothing because of their braindead scheme.
Charrlie inspires me, My parents said if I reach 10k, they'd buy me a professional camera for recording... Pls guys Im
literally begging you!.
There's so many furries in the early Moist gang XD I mean same but still
furry
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21 ate uou another stupid bot? Or just a no life?
Fact that you're masturbating to animal cartoons is so funny
I wonder what the friend told him to convince him to do this, must've been an Erwin final battle level speech.
LMFAO dude I fucking swear
“trust me bro”
It's shocking to hear about such extreme and ludicrous scams. It's a grim reminder of the lengths some people are willing to go for money, at the expense of their own wellbeing and legality. This definitely warrants more exploration, reflection and caution towards scams.
ChatGPT dorky ahh bot
@@west3783I have only heard ChatGPT use the phrase “grim reminder” unironically
Insurance company: He tried to take us off at the knees.
Scammer: I did. I’m really good at it, too.
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21Get well soon
I liked it, I was good at it
Something I like to say is that "If you go into working with people, you'll be surprised by new levels of stupid every year" which has never failed me yet
Even a few seconds of contact with dry ice on bare skin is enough to cause serious injury. 10+ hours was total overkill, and definitely torture. Honestly the whole thing reads a bit like coercion/manipulation rather than one man willfully putting himself through something he has to be zip tied into place for so he didn’t bail and losing both of his legs for the sake of .. another man’s debt? Especially suspicious that his friend photographed it when it happened. I am speculating I know, but it seems like the more likely option in my mind-
As a Taiwanese, I’m so glad my country’s finally getting some exposure on Charlie’s channel. But at the same time I feel so ashamed to be from the same country as that idiot who lost both legs for a insurance scam.
This was on Taiwanese news last week and when my friends and I saw it we just couldn’t believe it at first. How could anyone be so incredibly stupid 😅
Note that Taiwan isn’t too far from the equator and we don’t get any snow at sea level. Going to see snow on the mountain is actually considered somewhat of a popular activity for family, friends and couples because it’s rare.
There’s absolutely no way you could get frostbite that bad simply by riding a motorcycle at night. It’s literally a minuscule brain scheme.
Don't worry, individuals don't represent an entire nation!
An insurance fraud scheme mixed with cryptocurrency losses is just such a match made in heaven somehow lmao. I feel bad that the guy had to lose his feet but I guess both of these guys should've slept on this stupid scheme before actually doing it.
yep
I just looked it up. I order to get frostbite in 30 minutes, it would have to be 0 degrees fahrenheit. So in order for his scooter plan to be believable it would have to be extremely cold out. And thats just one issue.
I am currently studying insurance pre licensing, and there are a lot of regulations and laws put into place when you sign with a policy, most of which, protect the customer and some that protect the insurer. Any big claim is looked into by a whole underwriting department, in instances of death the company has a right to know information about an autopsy and if they are alive and get dismembered or an accident happens they have a right to know what happened and conduct their own investigation on the matter if i remember correctly. Example if you take out a life insurance policy for 1 million dollars and you try to commit suicide, your claim will be denied within the first two years of the activation of your policy. There are multiple clauses in the contracts that will attempt to minimize the scamming of the insured and the insurer so in short yes, it is really damn hard to scam insurance companies.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say these idiots won't be trying that again.
Chang went out on two limbs 💀
They won't, they don't have enough limbs to do it.
He won't get far on foot.
I see what ya did there... 😆
Kinda sad when you look at the greater picture here. These people are struggling for money, they value the money of their limbs
That's about it, cya
man this should be a case study in the human mindset towards greed. There truly is no limit.
"Loa has incurred financial loss from crypto trading" absolutely sum up the whole story
Spongbob: Am I the biggest loser on the beach?!
Chang: No, I am. I gave my legs frostbite to the point of amputation to scam the insurance company. Then I got caught.
He doesn't deserve to be at the beach
When big Lao came round just to put him, Chang turned into a clown
Jumping from crypto scam to straight up insurance fraud insane
I would like to point out that he claimed he got frostbite severe enough to where he required amputation, from riding a scooter at night... *in Taiwan.*
Quite literally the only places in Taiwan that break freezing at all are the mountains, and even then the very top of the highest mountain in Taiwan (Yu Shan) only *just barely* breaks freezing during the Winter months. So unless he rode his scooter at the top of a literal mountain in the middle of the night, the claim makes legitimately *zero* sense. And they live there! How on Earth did they think this would work??
I respect the effort of at least trying to scam an insurance company, rather than innocent individuals
The cost for insurers to deal with and pay out fraudsters is baked into innocent individual's insurance rates. The money always comes from somewhere. It's just like how shoplifters raise the price for all goods in the grocery store.
Idiots like them are the reason why people with actual injuries have such a difficult time claiming insurance
Worst part is he didnt do it for himself, he did it because of a friend ask him to.
Peer presure is one hella drug.
In the 70's my grandpa built a roll cage that he could put in and out of cars and a ramp. He would then crash trust fund kids from his colleges luxury cars in the middle of the night. They would get the newest model of the vehicle and he would get a percentage of the insurance pay out. Apparently since there weren't any cameras back then he made about 6 figures and never got caught.
The compensation for pain and suffering only makes you whole again. It’s never really worth the pain suffered. It just tries to return what was taken from you
7:31 TIL cutting of your own feet for an insurance scam is not illegal as long as you don't actually follow through with submitting paperwork. If you just cut off your own feet, you're golden.
I'd say that circular saw woman was singlehandedly the dumbest plan I've heard, but that dry ice plan doesn't have a leg to stand on
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I see what you did here
The fact that he lost both his legs for absolutely nothing because of scam is crazy.
That friend must have had 100 charisma and 0 intelligence
This man couldn't stand his own scam backfiring on him.
I remember when charlie used to be big, views have fallen, but the moist prevails
I’m not even surprised anymore that there are people out there willing to lose a limb just for money.
Well he certainly cant stand up for his case in court
No amount of money is worth losing a limb. Then you can’t live normally
And 1.7mil is not worth it for both legs
Not even a "That's about it. See ya."?? What is the world coming to?
"1.7 million isn't worth it, you should go for at least 8 figures" Are you crazy???????? I wouldn't give up a single leg for a billion dollars, nothing is worth losing a limb.
i would not mind a fake leg and 999 million extra
Use part of the billion to pay for the coolest cyborg leg 😮
Fuck yeahhhhh @@Definitelydusky
I would lose a leg for 10 mil
I would sacrifice a leg only if i had already lost one to a true accident.
Dude had to be having his dog held at gunpoint to agree to not just lose his legs but also have them sitting inside a bucket of ice water.
I just love good news. This is one of them.
He can't stand up for himself the next scam.
yep
Lmmfao!
"GOD DAMMIT, BARB!"
Must have been gruesome hours being bound to a chair with your feet in dry ice
As somebody who actually is disabled, I can tell you that having to deal with insurance companies and the government is something you want to AVOID at all costs. It's the most insufferable, painful experience.
Muchas gracias Carlos Blanco!
Charrlie inspires me, My parents said if I reach 10k, they'd buy me a professional camera for recording... Pls guys Im
literally begging you!.😊
@@MbitaChizi gay bot
yep
Why translate his name too
@@UninterestingPerson i was so confused because the name really works in spanish and i didnt realize it means charles white at first
trying to scam an insurance company is like trying to beat poseidon at a swimming contest
No "thats it see ya"? Im incredibly sad
Imagine living in a tropical climate and showing up to the doctor with extreme frostbite and claim it just happened naturally.
Was NOT expecting to see Daniel Thrasher in a BetterHelp ad at the bottom right at 8:30 lol
"calculator has a virus" 😂
yep
I wasnt expecting this to turn wholesome with the last guy just trying to raise money for new prosthetic.
The job of insurance companies is to make sure you get back as LITTLE money has contractually possible. I can’t imagine anyone has had much success in trying to scam them
$1.7m is basically a 40 year career at median household income in the United States. Just raw gross wage, not including asset appreciation or anything. Dude literally preferred to give up walking and everything that goes with it-to not work a regular ass job like everybody else 🤣
*This man has no boundaries, no limits, he doesn’t flinch at frostbite*
_cinematic cut to them hitting the griddy_
yep
you got raided by bots 2 minutes after you commented 😭
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21 ok but can you beat goku
Hitting the griddy on his stumps for legs
This looks like an extreme case of "One step forward and two steps back."
Unfortunately, he was unable to take two steps back
This is the definition of "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
When my s/o lost his fingers violently and traumatically, I gotta say, insurance money was the last thing on our minds. The years of therapy and PTSD was definitely not worth it. It was a bonus, got him the computer he adores but think he'd rather have his fingers back.
Going out on a limb
Both limbs to be specific.. LMAO
5:50 As someone from Missouri, sounds like something we would do
its rare for me to feel sorry for someone for being that stupid, like how does he not eat silverware?
When i hear stories like this.. I just feel sad... The sheer stupidity is mind blowing.
Watching this drunk just to sleep. Love you Charlie
The words “RuneScape Scam” activated my fight or flight response
What did I learn from this video:
- Insurance scams are tough to do.
- We are actually just getting dummer as a species.
- The logo is a hammer, not a penis.
4:58 love how dude's name randomly goes from Chang to Zhang in the article
depending on who, or where people make the articles, the same character for his last name gets romanized differently
The police definitely aren't gonna let this guy walk.
Well, I guess he thought getting cold feet was worth the payoff!
I’ve been in the insurance industry for a little bit now and I’m telling you right now this is not even the dumbest attempt at insurance fraud I have seen.
What have you seen 😭
@@Godkin645 I could honestly write an entire essay about this but let me just say you would not believe the LENGTHS people have gone to to fake their own deaths for life insurance pay outs 😭
@@Godkin645 one time a man lit his own car on fire and drove it off an embankment with a dead pig in it as if they wouldn’t be able to tell the body was a pig body….. and he would have gotten away with it to if it weren’t for DNA testing 😭
That article is literally the gift that keeps on giving...
Honestly, him being a College Student makes it all make sense LOL