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- Just over a year ago, we pitched the then new BMW i4 against the Tesla Model 3 and the Polestar 2 in the battle of the all-electric sports saloons. This year the compact SUV is now the preferred choice, and so their SUV equivalents take centre stage as the new BMW iX1 wades into battle with the Tesla Model Y and (until Polestar have something to offer in this class) the Volvo XC40 Recharge. And to really put them through their paces, we decided to stage our biggest triple test ever by reviewing them along the new SW660, a tourist route that has become the South West England equivalent of Scotland's NC500 encompassing Devon & Cornwall and the dramatic Jurassic Coastline.
Who will be crowned our premium compact SUV of choice? The only way to find out was to subject all three cars to the full AutoEV road test to declare a winner. This is our longest ever video, which many may find a little too long, but we felt it important to make sure each car was evaluated properly, as well as finding out what the SW660 had to offer. We have split it into more chapters so it will make it easier for you to skip to the bits you want to know. For the rest of you, grab a cuppa, make yourself comfortable and enjoy!
We would like to thank the team at the SW600 for their help and assistance with this video, and if you would like to know more about them, please visit southwest660.com/ to find out more about the driving routes, accommodation, where to eat and what to see on this incredible part of the country, and what our preferred all electric premium SUV to take n the trip would be.
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See the website for more information on the SW660 - southwest660.com/
0:00 - Introduction
01:25 - Titles
01:33 - Styling
06:53 - Volvo's practicality
07:15 - BMW's practicality
07:49 - Tesla's practicality
08:48 - Rear seat accommodation
13:29 - Volvo's interior
18:47 - BMW's interior
24:21 - Tesla's interior
31:18 - Tesla's usability
32:15 - BMW's usability
33:20 - Volvo's usability
34:30 - BMW's performance & handling
43:18 - Tesla's performance & handling
54:27 - Volvo's performance & handling
01:03:33 - Pricing
01:05:54 - Competition
01:07:15 - Pros & cons
01:09:11 - Summary
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I have the Volvo xc40 mild hybrid and by far, it's the best car I've ever owned and I've been driving 40 years. I've owned everything from Toyota, to Mercedes, BMW and everything in-between , plus my husband currently has a Tesla model 3. This is my second Volvo, my first one was a 2005. Loved Volvo so much, I went back and haven't regretted it for a single moment. Perfection.
I drove from Marbella to Manchester last summer in a Model Y duel motor, I found it extremely comfortable, charging stations were easy to find and apart from losing the rear number plate was a fantastic roadtrip. Doing a similar trip this summer form Manchester to Faro. I have to say though that the Tesla is my nephews car & I am serioously considerinng gettinng the iX1.
I tested all 3 before deciding on the BMW which I took delivery of just over a week ago. The Volvo was good but I didnt like the rear quarter styling and found the infortainment system dated, After testing the Volvo I drove the X1, a good but slightly firm ride, well built, typical BMW. I then tested the Tesla. Performance was outstanding but the way it was delivered was poor. It rattled like a tin of nails, the ride was lousy and it just felt cheap compared to the other two. Its only plus is the current charging network which is the best. I agree with youTesla is beginning to loose ground to the competition but I,m sure all Elons followers would disagree.
Unfortunately it is the one brand that every time we feature one, the comments section explodes with people telling us we "don't know what we are talking about", I am "anti-Tesla" and (my particular favourite) that I "must be being paid by the other manufacturers to say bad things about them". Hey-ho. It never occurs to some people that there are now just better cars out there.
Anyway, thank you for watching, and sharing your (same) thoughts on the car as we had!
@@AutoEV...why are you anti- Tesla?.....would be nice to know.
@@kevingilhooley2064 I do hope that was a rhetorical question??
If not, let me be very clear on this. We are NOT anti-Tesla. In fact, when we initially tested the Model 3 we said it was a “game changer” and likened it to other significant cars such as the original Mini and the MK1 Golf GTI, such was the impact it would make on the mid-sized exec saloon market. Our issue now is that Tesla is complacent. Build quality, whilst better, is still way behind class best at the same price. Performance, whilst fast, lacks finesse, as does the chassis. Where they hit the competition hard with their tech ten years ago, others have now caught up and in many cases do it better. We hear too many issues of poor customer service from their Tesla Centres and inconsistencies of problem solving. And with them now opening up their Superchargers to others, they are losing their last real advantage.
So no, we aren’t anti-Tesla, we are just very mindful of what makes a good EV, and as I said, a few years back they were leaders in their field. Now, they have fallen behind many legacy manufacturers who have responded to that initial threat and can now deliver an EV better than Tesla whilst still maintaining their traditional values such as build quality, chassis dynamics and customer service.
I hope that goes some way to explaining our position. I am not anti-Tesla, but not will I deliver a verdict to appease “fans” if I feel the product isn’t good. And against the Volvo and BMW, it lags behind in too many areas for me to say otherwise for fear of offending Tesla owners.
Goodness me. It seems as though you test the German cars but don't ever own them. I have been lucky (or unlucky) enough to have owned Mercs, Bmws, Audis and Porsches. All have had bad failures, been off the road for unreasonably long times and had poor to very bad software and build quality. I have had Teslas for 8 years ( S 85D, 3 Perf, Y) and have had no problems at all. I added a Porsche Taycan to the family fleet but after 12 months sold it because of poor panel gaps (which couldn't be fixed although acknowledged to be bad), low speed driveline shunt, and poor to dismall software. The German luxury cars are overpriced and do not live up to expectations. Watch out, the superbly built Chinese cars are coming!
@@mgist9354 on the contrary. I’ve owned two BMWs, a Mercedes, one Audi and two Porsche’s.
I watch a lot of car reviews on TH-cam and I have to say yours are among the most impressive- thorough, full of interesting observations that haven't been recycled from press releases and helpful for prospective buyers.
Thank you very much, that is a very kind thing to say. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
I bought an iX1 3 months ago and I have grown to love it more and more. The steering appeared too light and dull but it's grown on me. The ride with the standard adaptive dampers is excellent and for longer runs it is a very relaxed car, very quiet. I don't rave about the finish, generally OK but gets worst as you go towards the rear, low quality luggage net, thin cardboard rear shelf and ugly tailgate hinges. To me the handling is what I expect from BMW but I would be interested in what others think.
Great Review! Decided to order the 2024 Volvo XC40 Recharge Twin Motor Plus this week! I really like the Swedish Design.
2 weeks ago I had the same decision to make, after 3 months of intense research and tons of reviews between MY, EV6, GV60, iX1, ID.4 .... and XC40 at the very last minute. I decided to go for the XC40 MY24. For the same reasons as you. The BMW was my absolute favorite for a long time and it is technically the best car at the moment, but the range and charging speed make this expensive car a second car. But I don't need a second car. Excuse my English, I am German. Your review was the best so far.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I hope you enjoy your XC40.
I was throwing up between these two cars. My head said XC40 for better battery and speed but my heart made me go for the iX1. Just a beautiful interior where I'd love to spend most of my time on the road, especially in traffic where the speed doesn't matter. And around town I won't be doing more than 300km in a day, anyway. Then we have the ICE car for longer road trips where we don't want the headaches or stress of an EV.
A very insightful review as always, thanks. Looking for an ev replacement for a Q3 I had assumed that I would go for an AWD sub 6 seconds 0-60mph but having driven most of the models in this market I've concluded that sub 8 seconds is absolutely fine and that any reduced range and increased cost is not worth the AWD option. You make some very good points. While it's a brilliant thrill to accelerate in the Volvo's or Tesla's 4.0 secs, it's a performance that is more likely to get an unskilled driver into trouble rather than out of it and it's pretty useless on congested, bumpy, speed limited British roads. Your point about build quality is spot-on. Much of our experience of a car is through the minor controls and there's nothing like the feel of a well-engineered indicator stalk or bevelled dial to make you feel good when driving. You didn't commit to how good the BMW was compared to the current best in the field. We'd really benefit if you produced a summary of all your experience and ranked them all. Keep 'em coming!
Thanks for the great detailed review again and what a great drive - we’ll be doing part of it this summer for sure. Having tried a Model Y last year when looking for a company car my impression was similar to here - it’s got a huge amount of space and really good tech (I actually loved the one-pedal driving) but it’s not a great looker and very utilitarian for a £50k+ car.
I didn’t get one and won’t rule it out when I change in a couple of years time but it’s no longer got that ‘halo effect’ for me and will be one of a few cars I’ll consider next time.
@AutoEV interesting comparison, thank you. We have just sold our highly regarded Skoda Enyaq iv80 with 82kWh battery, heat pump and "125kW" charging, replacing it with a Tesla Model Y. Given your review, why have we done this? First, ride quality, which has come as a surprise. The 2023 manufactured Model Y cars apparently have a new suspension set-up which has a ride quality that betters our Enyaq. We weren't expecting this until our test drive. Second, range. Our high spec Enyaq achieves 230 miles range through a mild winter, 280 miles in the summer. The Model Y driven the same way has been delivering 280 miles in the winter, that's 50 miles more real world range. Third, charging. Skoda's charging claims are grossly misleading. Our "125kW" car typically managed 63kW at 150-350kW dc fast chargers over the 20,000 miles that we owned it. The Model Y normally charges at twice the rate of the Enyaq in our use. Then there's the Supercharger network... Which car has the better interior? The ECOsuite Enyaq, by far. Ergonomics? Again the Enyaq. As an overall EV package? The Model Y. Keep up the great reviews.
Enjoyed this review and how it was delivered
Another thorough and most helpful video. Thanks for that.
As regards the assessment of the 3 cars and in particular the BMW, what I don't understand about a lot of these reviews as regards the BMW - and you're not alone in this - is that there is a lot of focus on how difficult it is to use the touch-screen menu.
I hate to say this, but I feel that the you reviewers are missing the point about the BMW menu system. First of all, at a rough guess 80% of the adjustments to the car's various functions are done while the car is stationary while the remaining are done using voice control. Personally I find it brilliant that I can set the speed, open/raise the sunroof, adjust the heating of the steering wheel, adjust the temperature, adjust the power of the heating/cooling fan, set a destination, open the window (even halfway), change modes, change radio stations etc. etc. orally rather than fiddling about with the touchscreen.
As regards styling it is of course a personal matter, but I find the BMW is closer to how I would expect a BMW should be than, let's say, the VOLVO with its missing front grille (Apart from that, I have never liked that odd, sharp and rather abrupt cut-off sort of styling of the small rear passenger side window)....but again "different strokes for different folks".
Be that as it may. Thanks for a great video.
P.S. From experience the TESLA Y (apart from being bland to look at) is so poorly made, cheap in material and with such an awful suspension that I don't really think that it belongs in this comparison of Premium cars.....but then again, I suppose they are (were?) the Touchstone of EVs
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. All I will say is that I preferred it when you could control the OS with the iDrve controller that you still get in the iX and i7. Seems odd to have done away with it, thats all. But you make a good point about using voice control.
Great comparison. I’m due to change my Tesla M3 LR and fancy a change to an SUV and a more premium feel car. Had a demo of the iX1 and loved it. The only thing keeping me attached to Tesla at the moment is the supercharger network. I found the regen on the iX1 impressive, doing 30 mile journey on 27 miles of battery range, on 90% motorway too. Efficiency was 3.8m/kWh too whereas I average about 3.3 in the Tesla. Efficiency can be better in the Tesla but with the additional range and performance available you tend to feel more comfortable to drive it without worrying about range anxiety. Hence the lower efficiency. Plus if you park the Tesla up and don’t shut all the monitoring systems down then it’s like having a leaky fuel tank. I’ve lost about 100 miles of range when parked up for a week in my Tesla….ironically whilst having a demo of the iX1 !
Model Y with Comfort Suspension is the best Family Car in History.
That’s quite a statement to make, and as much as I haven’t driven the Model Y equipped as such, I’d challenge you on that. There are other flaws with the Model Y that would make me put lots of others above it. But thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
As owner of a 2023 Model Y LR (with the comfort suspension), I would agree. I drove 35 cars and SUVs (not just electrics) and the Model Y was the clear winner for me.
I found the ride quality test driving a Tesla Y shocking, felt like I was beaten up in it. Was so glad to get back into my 640d after. Ride quality always comes first for me not pointless gadgets you will never use.
Couldn't agree more!
You could tell when you was in the Volvo that looked much smoother and quieter ride, looked a nice car to ride in.@@AutoEV
Hello from Greece. Great video and analysis! I have ordered XC40 recharge 2024 Extended Range with RWD. It hasn’t been more than two weeks since Volvo published the official wltp range for 2024 models, showing huge upgrade compared to the initial estimated values. My model goes now with 567km wltp range, while a combined range in ev-database has been updated to 440km. I went for a test drive of 2022 model. The overall Volvo quality and drive was absolutely amazing. They have done a great job with this car
Nice comparison. How was the wind and tyres noise level in the BMW iX1?
Actually very good. I’d want to spend more time in an M-Sport before giving the X-Line the nod, but I feel the X-Line may be the trim level I’d go for.
@@AutoEV We are a family of 4 with 2 very young kids. Your iX1 and XC40 thoughts in the video has sold me on iX1 X-Line over M spec. Thank you for an excellent an unbiased review. I don’t see many reviewers highlight the Tesla Y and M3 ride quality issues which is important to us. So glad that we did not pull the trigger on the Y straight away without doing own research.
Love the reviews 👍
I notice the Tesla is a 22 plate. I have a 2023 model with the adjusted ‘comfort’ suspension. I was a bit fearful, especially having driven Citroëns over the years. Yes, it’s on the firm side, but just having driven from Yorkshire to La Rochelle, I find the ride acceptable on all but the roughest French village roads. Firm, nimble and fine on smooth French motorway tarmac and more fidgety, less well engineered UK surfaces. So ride is not its strongest suit, but in all other respects it is excellent, including, imo, interior quality. The non-leather steering wheel could feel better.
The tesla comfort suspension has not been released in the UK yet. Whilst confirmed in Chinese reports it's not made it to UK yet. If you look at your suspension compared to a 2022 MY they are identical. Sorry. Expectation is it may make it in cars shipped from Q2/Q3 onwards.
@@ahmed624354 I wish Tesla were more transparent about these things. I read that the Shanghai factory was doing the new suspension from January 1st. I picked up mine on 18th March with a 2023 VIN, so had assumed it was the newer set-up. Seems I may have been wrong. It’s far from intolerable, though, in my view, and fine on motorways and good A roads. Marginally firmer than my previous Peugeot 3008, which is often said to be well-judged, though I found it firmish. My MY suspension is not noisy or crashy, just on the firm side.
To add, mywife and I tested various electric SUVs - Ioniq 405, Kia EV6, Nissan Ariya, VW ID4 and 5, Audi Q4 e tron. We found the Nissan firmer than the Model Y, but overall the choice was easy. MY was better technically, more efficient, roomier, plenty quiet enough, purer in interior design. The closest competitors for is were the Ariya, despite its ride, and Ioniq 5. Softest riding were the VWs and Ioniq 5.
Also, quality if the MY has been fine. Good panel gaps, no rattles, well screwed together as far as I can see so far. I am not a ‘fan boy’, but both my OH and me have really enjoyed theTesla experience so far. Oh… and the charging infrastructure. That is excellent.
@@spsmith45 they are very vague indeed, and honestly i won't be surprised if comfort suspension is just a term with not hardware changes. I cam across an article which showed identical part numbers and set-up of suspension of MY 22 and MY 23. FYI I have a MY 22 on 19inch wheels. Suspension is harsh and bouncy just wish it was adaptive for the price point.
Great review, waiting for my BMW iX1 M ❤. "Blue stuff" is only indicator that you actually are driving electric BMW, but when you order the car, BMW can remove it from factory, so you get the car without blue details.
I am a Tesla Fan, but you're not completely wrong about the things you criticize. The Problem i have is the way you're delivering it and handling facts. For Example the Price: The Y you tested costs 54.000 with a compareable Trimlevel to the others, not 59.000. I configured the Bmw also, the Tesla is the cheapest car here, by far. In fact the Entry Level Model Y for 45.000 would be the competition rangewise and Trimlevelwise, lacking the Awd and Performance till about 40mph, (after that they're about the same) but being in a bigger class like Bmw X4 and much more room it's 12.000 Pound cheaper. 12.000!!! About the Ride Quality: i complained about that too with my Tesla Y, but on longer Trips I keep forgetting about that because the Seats are so comfy. I love travelling with this thing, but I get the critic. What I miss in this test is that the Tesla just needs less Energy, for many People Energy is not free. The thing with the Seats is not completely untrue, it lacks a bit of shoulder grip, but calling it dangerously bad compared to the others is bit much knowing that the Y has crushed the others in the Ncap Safety Tests being the safest Car of the World at the time. Also this "bad chassis" is way faster in the Elk- Test than the others, even than a Bmw i4. The Build Quality in the others is better, i think, but the Material Quality is not. You have a hard time finding cheap hard plastic on a Tesla, on the Bmw you don't have to search long, half the door is.
Great video. I had the company car choice of Kia EV6 GT line, Tesla model 3 or Volvo XC40 recharge Plus single motor. I liked all 3 test drives. Tesla I wasn’t a huge fan of the speed being on the screen, Kia I loved the style but inside did not feel premium and lacked Tech, I opted for the Volvo. Order back in October and should be with me in 2-3 weeks.
Hi Luke, I’ve had my C40 for 9 months now. You won’t be disappointed. Enjoy 😊
I tested all 3 of these (what a coincident) and preferred BMW iX1.
The iX1 is a very good car.
This is a great review! I have looked to a lot but yours is the best by details and fair opinions.
I am choosing between the BMW and the Tesla.
I have been driving the Tesla for 2 times and both times I felt the sears were bad and I felt like I have sitten on a board to be honest.
A lot of my friends and colleagues drive the MY and the all were like what are you talking about.
I could not really explain it, until I saw your review, which is explaining it perfectly!
Keep it us guys!
Thank you for watching and of course for writing such a lovely comment.
Great review! I like and totally agree the comment on Tesla, it is good but not luxury and feel cheap. Love 💗 the comparison of the models with iX1. Very fair comment, good job 👍🏻
The SW660 route: southwest660.com/route-map
Nice reviews. Waiting for an X1 (gas). I looked at the Volvo as well, but read they had too many quality control issues... And not so swedish anymore...
Funny how the Tesla is priced so differently across the world. Here in Hong Kong, the price for the iX1 > XC40 recharge > Model Y Long Range, making the Tesla the obvious choice for many people, especially when it also has the largest room in a similar form factor. At the lower price point people just accept that the Tesla is just a daily do it all car, not a luxury purchase.
How can the BMW X1 weight be over 100kg more than the Teslan? Teslan is way bigger?
The tesla y does not deal with bumps round town well but is great on the motorway, it is a polished performer. The seats are a bit soft for spirty driving as it handles on rails.. lThe stereo system is incredible yet no mention. My wife had the xc40 single motor recharge, i found it to be dangerous if pressing on unlike my tesla. It feels like the front end hops (lack of weight?) and any traction control is very slow to react. The volvo is stylish but the tesla hands down a better , sportier, and more premium feeling car and a relative bargain second hand.
No question the iconic5 is miles ahead of these three car of the the year around the world two years running
Ive owed a volvo XC60, Merc EQA and now have a Tesla Model Y. Volvo is more comfortable but the Tesla has more pleasure in driving .
I tested all and decided on bmw. In my opinion it feels manic, particularly in sport mode and bordering on dangerous - i love it
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We have a 3 and a y and I think the criticism on the teslas is completely accurate. Can’t speak for the other two since I haven’t driven them but, we ended up with them for peace of mind that we can cross country road trip and not deal with EA, Tesla dominated charging. If that wasn’t a concern I’d be looking at many others, but for me it’s a tool first and mostly committing so not worried about chassis dynamics etc.
Should have tested them all as 4 wheel drive for real comparison its not the power its the traction that you want with 4 wheel drive especially in electric.
For me, I do like the Volvo but it’s still a bit old fashioned inside although I appreciate some may like that, also not on a EV ground up platform which has disadvantages.
BMW is great but they still need to sort this fake grill out and follow what Volvo have done .
The Y still has the efficiency, cost,
Boot space, Performance , charging advantage over the other two its still the best selling in the world.
You will want to revisit this when the updated model Y is released also.
Admittedly I am a model 3 driver so the screen etc. is not a problem for me once I got to know it, I had always thought a head up display would be a good idea 👍🏼 and still can’t quite understand why it isn’t in the model 3 or Y.
Great in depth review 👍🏼I guess all reviews are going to be a bit bias though on personal perspective which I think this is a little but in fair play its reviewed that way.
To comment on the max charging speed.. it not really important to have a high speed it's more the charging curve what's important. Example our Tesla Model 3 starts high but drops very quickly while my BMW i3 has almost a straigt charging curve till 93%
I mostly agree with your video, i tested all 3 cars and i would love to own a XC40 or IX1 (better looking in and out, more 'premium' like you mention). However they were both out of my price range so i now own a Model Y, which is FAR cheaper (and also feels cheaper i have to agree). I respect, and mostly agree, with your opinions about the pro's/con's, but were this video goes HORRIBLY wrong is the pricing, not a small matter i would say. I'm sorry, but if Tesla gave you wrong info is no excuse, a little bit of car reviewer will know the prices, which you obviously don't. If you look at range, which for almost everyone is far more important than dual/single motor the RWD is the best fit to compare. And as said, they only one that fitted within my budget, a real-life fact.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I get what you say, however the reason we chose the LR AWD was that it was closest to the iX1 in terms of base price, range and power. It starts at £52k, as does the BMW. If anything we should have had the dual motor XC40, but one wasn’t available. Even so, the price of the trim level we had was closest, so felt it was a fair comparison.
And I do agree, the single motor Tesla is a lot cheaper and offers good value for money, but in the case of ours, it wasn’t such a bargain.
IX1 and RWD have identical WLTP, so i think that's the best fit. Anyway, if you compare the LR and the IX1 the base price is the same, but the LR wins BY FAR on WLTP and performance. So how on earth can you sat that the Tesla is the most expensive? It's actually the cheapest of the lot, that is his main benefit and why it is one of the best selling cars in Europe for the moment, despite of his obvious flaws. Fe the fact it still has no decent parking sensors.
Just choose an M Sport for the iX1, with black grill and a fancy color. then you'll forget about the Volvo looks :)
The blue flashes on the BMW look like that plastic you peel off new stuff
I believe cars from Jan 23 production, on Model Y, have improved ride - i.e. dampers/springs etc. - And I suspect come later this year with the Gen3 platform Tesla are introducing things will improve again...
Then we will reappraise those cars and report our findings no doubt.
The Tesla comes last but will trounce the others in sales because of - usability; even when their network opens up other manufacturers still won’t have the seamless ease of use and integrated navigation software. I’ve had two ev’s now without home charging and my next will be a Tesla for exactly this reason.
How can you class the Tesla model Y as an SUV?
Because Tesla do.
I have a m3p and yes the ride quality is on the harsh side but it’s very controllable and fun to drive. don’t think the Y is much different
Trust me, it is. It’s ride quality is way worse than the Model 3. It’s to do with the stiffness of the dampers and springs to compensate for the higher body structure I’d suggest: in order to minimise body roll, the stiffen it up. And that makes it harsh.
Hmmm. The September model Y (72) reg would have been a more appropriate comparison, and the suspension and seat comments don't apply.much better suspension and you definately feel in-it. speaking with first hand experience, and the negative experience of the tesla model 3 which matches your 22-model experience...
Nice video, what is your take on EV's catching fire !
No different to combustion engine cars catching fire. In fact, there is a higher probability they will due to the amount of highly combustible liquid they carry!
I have a petrol XC40 T5. I was going to an EV next year, XC40 again at first. But then BMW lauched the iX1, which I think is much better overall. But then again the XC40 MY24 got new engines and battery updates. Allegedly get more range than the iX1 now. If the XC40 is really getting 80-100kms more range, that's a circumstance I can't ignore, even thinking BMW is better. Gonna wait for tests and comparisons to see Volvo's acclaimed updates in the real world...
I've just driven the 24MY Polestar 2 which gets the new batteries and motors that the Volvos do. I need to do a proper evaluation on the car over a distance, but the efficiency was superb.
I’m over the old OEMs and their business model. Tesla for me! I worked for them so in know…
Is the model y 2023 version?
Volvo is stunning externally
It was the very latest that Tesla UK gave us, so I’d say so.
When was the tested Tesla Model Y being built? It is reported that 2023 built Model Y should have an upgrade, more sofisticate suspension that should be better over the bumps.
Tesla is a Tupperware car imho. Great EV technique but as a car I would never buy it. I would go for the BMW. A no brainer for me. As a brand I feel much much more with BMW then Volvo. By the way; the BMW can charge 22kW but this is optional feature.
its the Volvo for me!
Nissan Ariya is a competent rival also that you can to your long list 👍
And a good one to add. I simply forgot to say the name as there are so many to remember now! But we are fans of the Ariya.
I test drove a Tesla Y and liked it, then today drive the BMW i4.. torn between these and the ix1.. I drive a SEAT Ateca currently.. all three are undoubtedly an upgrade..when reviews discuss performance are they just being picky? Will me as a non car guy really tell the difference?
Just to add I would really miss apple car play and Waze in the Tesla that was one of my main criticism’s but maybe test drive not long enough
Well it depends what you mean by “performance”. If it’s speed you mean, the obviously the Tesla is hard to ignore. But we feel it’s more than that. It’s how the car handles, how it actually “performs” in its role of what it’s designed to be, so in this case, a family car. In this case, we put the Volvo and the BMW ahead of the Tesla. Yes it’s roomy, yes it has access to a great charging network, but the ride quality and general build quality make it the least successful of the three. The Volvo is s great car to drive, but lacks the rear room of the other two. If that is a consideration, then it’s the BMW iX1 that we would choose. As Charlie said in his summary, I’d he was spending £50k on one of them, it was the BMW that felt the most complete and premium package to him. It really is a superb car, and a real step up from the Model Y for us.
Thanks for taking time to respond.. I’ll be watching your i4 video after.. if size wasn’t an issue would you go for the i4 or ix1? For i4 now added question of e35 v e40..
@@christophersaunders1893 haven’t driven the eDrive 35 yet, but we’ve always said the eDrive 40 was the pick of the i4 range for us. Have a feeling that will remain the case! (Although have you tested the Polestar 2 and Hyundai Ioniq 6 yet?)
I’m definitely leaning to the e40 almost as much a treat to myself after tough couple of years and that’s also why thinking BMW over the other two too. The luxury inside was great, Tesla is great for things such as dash cams etc as standard, my 5 year old daughter will be upset as no fart noise or Netflix etc in the BMW. Interestingly through work scheme m sport i4, ix1 and just the RWD Y (with bigger wheels) are all similar monthly price.. but maybe I’d consider xline as an option from your review
I'm seeing a lot of Polestars around where i live (SE UK) . Nowhere near the number of Teslas of course but the last few months Ive seen a lot of them. Not seen many Volvo EVs. Enjoyed my Polestar 2 test drive other than the enclosed cabin feeling.
ETA how did you get to £59k on the Tesla? Ive just priced up a MY AWD in blue remove the tow bar (saves £1k) and its £54k.
Tested all 3,
volvo = comfort, good nvh, bmw = sporty, bad nvh,
model Y = cheap, worse nvh, For this price range, I go for comfort.
Number one is Volvo if it were my money
The transmission hump in the Volvo holds batteries.
Just had a look at this video. Yeah I was in the ix1 you can tell right away the build quality. Like the merc eqa. Not for me the Volvo looks like a big cardboard box. Tesla the way there going is mass production like GM Toyota etc. I would say that the quality and build will improve over in time remember bmw has lots and lots of experience in building cars. Tesla are miles ahead in battery tech technology and charging than bmw and merc. Like your observation bmw and merc are still the kings for interior and driving enjoyment. A very good fair review as always . Maybe the new model 3 will see an improvement. 👍👍👍
This is a review that looks thorough but is instead quite superficial and definitely biased against the Tesla.. quoted price is 59.990 but that is for the performance model.. you are testing the long range which is at 52.990 but instead you should have been testing the rwd which is at 44.490 and has comparable power to the other two. Furthermore there are no extras on the Tesla. Everything but colour options and larger wheels are included. so pricing is way off in this comparison. Spec to spec the value proposition of the Tesla for a large family cannot be beaten .the space is enormous and cannot be compared to ix1 and xc40 not even ix3 and xc60 . I agree the ride is firm but late 2022 revision is much more refined. It is in no way unsafe and it has huge levels of mechanical grip. I have test driven xc40 which is really lovely but small and inefficient, as well as the ix3 and enyaq which are overpriced. I also own a bmw i3 and an rx8 and the comments about unsafe handling seriously make me laugh. Oh and also charging for the Tesla is 27mins 10 -80 not 30-80 whilst it charges at 11kw at ac. Not 7kw.
So first of all, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
However, can I just correct you on a couple of things. I did say in the pricing section that the price Tesla gave us was for a different model and didn’t supply the correct spec for the one they gave us. Irrespective of that, we chose the LR AWD as a comparable machine for the iX1, which is also a dual motor car at a similar price to the Tesla, £52,990. With metallic paint, the Enhanced Autopilot, 20-inch alloys, the price Tesla quotes us is £59,990.
I didn’t disagree on the space of the Tesla and make the point it is by far the largest of the three. I don’t say otherwise.
The ride quality isn’t just firm, it’s unacceptable. And many other reviewers say likewise, and even the 2023 MY has been criticised by other channels for not being any better over rutted roads.
I’m not biased against Tesla. I’m getting a little tired of people saying this just because I tell it like it is. It’s a disappointment in comparison with other cars at this price level and I’m not going to say otherwise. I get how defensive people are towards the brand, but I don’t say it to create controversy, I say it because it’s how I view the car. I have criticised many cars in our reviews, but oddly enough that doesn’t seem to create the same vitriolic response from many others. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and this is mine. The car simply fails to deliver its basic functions as a family car that costs the thick end of £55k and others do it better. That’s all.
@@AutoEV @AutoEV welcome. I am not a fan boy. Brand agnostic and as I already stated I do own a bmw too . How is the dual motor 370 or so HP Tesla comparable to the ix1 with 313 HP and a much smaller battery and the Volvo with single motor 230 HP but not comparable to the model y rwd with 285 or HP and 44.000 starting price is beyond me. Also the optional full self driving 7.5k option is not comparable to what's on offer on the other two cars. Standard no add on option includes lane assist adaptive cruise control and all the other safety features and is what is on offer on the other two cars if I am not mistaken. So again cost has not been taken into account. Also warranty 2 years on the other 2 cars 4 on the Tesla as well as 8 for the motor and not only the battery. So what I am basically saying is you are basing your review on subjective rather than objective criteria. I owned a 330d before the model y and was aiming towards the ix3 . Does it drive better than the Tesla yes, more refined ,more premium in the traditional sense , but it offers less in almost any other measurable way and it will most definitely cost much higher to run. My 2015 i3 is a lovely car and I am not switching it for anything but my 330d maintenance was getting very expensive. Anyway each buyer has their own criteria and priorities , what I am saying is that you are bit too harsh on a product that is in no way perfect but is objectively the best value proposition.
@@AutoEV Truly incredible… You just said “The car simply fails to deliver its basic functions as a family car that costs thick end of 55K and others do better”. Let’s first be clear that a family wants Safety, space, range, ease of charging on road trips, efficiency, reliable battery/power train, performance, and comfort. THE MOST important of these being Safety. The Tesla is objectively the better car in every single category mentioned for the possible exception of comfort which is subjective to the customer. Many consider Tesla the more comfortable car depending on what aspects of comfort are most important to them. The truth stated here is not vitriol. It is simply the truth. When a reviewer can’t get the key metrics sorted out on a car that millions know we’ll, he will be called out on it.
@@getreal7217 your continued rhetoric is almost as boring as Tesla’s styling department.
You keep harping on about how safe a Tesla is. And it is. I don’t deny it. But it’s not even close to having the safety record of Volvo. Yes, it’s efficient and delivers a good range, but this was never denied in the test. We commend it for that, and also it’s space. But it’s not miles ahead of the competition as it once was, and in fact I’d say that Hyundai and Kia are on a par, and deliver better EV architecture with 800v systems and faster charging capability.
But the fact remains, it’s uncomfortable. I’m not the only reviewer (or potential customer) to say so. And whilst I appreciate your viewpoint, people don’t just buy cars on numbers and metrics. Comfort and desirability come into it too. And that’s a fact. I should know given my background and experience.
And you’ll pardon my reticence to take you seriously when you’ve even admitted that you haven’t even driven the others, yet are unwilling to even consider the fact that they just might drive better.
I've driven cars in the US for many years as well as driving cars in the EU. Being simplistic, cars designed for the US (in my experience) virtually all have 3 common issues a) terrible ride quality b) poor build quality c) seats that you feel like you are "on" rather than "in". Having driven Tesla's in the UK, they feel like "American" cars to me. Shame, because they are relatively efficient EV's, but wouldn't buy one if you paid me.
Completely lost me being complimentary about the styling of the Volvo 😮 stronger glasses required 😆 I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Very good and objective review, especially on the Tesla downsides, which only fanboys would deny.
Just taken delivery of Model Y RWD, love it, just wanted something really different, I have generally driven German cars then most recent JLR big mistake!! Love the technology and minimalist interior, yes ride is a bit firm but everything else spot on, personally find Volvo a little boring and plastic interiors, BMW good but very expensive and to me looks like the old X1.
I do quite like the dash in the Tesla, but just feel the quality still has a way to go. On saying that, the price of the RWD car now makes a very compelling argument. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Couldn’t agree more with everything you said!
Great reviews! Don't worry about the Tesla stuff, I notice a lot of Tesla owners telling the same negative things in forums/groups. I feel Tesla is very numbers-focussed (performance, speed, range, ...) but lacks in the departments that cannot be measured.
I choose the iX1 because of the comfortable/enjoyable ride (XC40 and Model Y were also on my list)
Yes of course, Tesla is all about the numbers....best efficiency, range, acceleration, safety, MOOSE test, charging speed, drivers assistance performance, reliability of battery and drivetrain, most reliable DC fast charging infrastructure, etc. Oh geez what is left? Ah yes, the ever subjective "comfort" of a car. A Cadillac from the 1070s was mighty comfortable but I would never trade a Tesla Model Y with all its winning numbers for the Cadilliac.
@@getreal7217 Yeah, compare a model Y with an oldtimer, that's fair... You left out:
- A lot of road and wind noise, you will find a lot of YT movies of Tesla owners trying to improve this. I mean, if a Tesla scores worse than an ICE car with a sports engine, that's telling me something. This is a comfort thing that can be measured 😉
- Bad overall reliability, placing bottom in consumer reliability reports from 2022 (and the years before). You will find a lot of recent articles from november 2022 that discuss the numbers.
Who cares about the crazy Tesla acceleration (which is unusable in normal driving conditions), '50% more crashes with electric cars' due to unadapted behavior and much faster acceleration, says AXA (insurance company).
How many times do you need a fastcharger? the safety features? the full range? the fast acceleration? ...
Comfort and handling are a top priority for many car buyers, that's why you should test drive multiple cars and not just buy a car based on numbers.
@@icecreammm2 Wow you’re all over the place. Bottom line is that the Tesla Model Y is best in virtually all respects. Sure one can focus on who has the better leather stitching but most buyers are smarter than to be swayed by this alone. OverallTesla Model Y is the better car. Here is just a little info on what goes into designing a Tesla Model Y resulting in the best/safest chasis in the world as determined by the world’s safety testing agencies (EURONCAP, etc)
th-cam.com/video/3FhDfy9Ufl4/w-d-xo.html
@@getreal7217 "All over the place"? 😂 Why such a fuzzy comment about statements based on data/measurements?
Bottom line is that the Tesla Model Y is the best car for your needs.
As I said, Tesla prioritizes the numbers as those are easy to convince buyers, it works on you.
They won't tell you they are saving on (sound dampening/quality) materials because it makes them more money, they will tell you their cars are lighter and have more range. Making a positive out of a negative.
If your priority is range, then this is great for you. Others want more sound dampening, better quality interior, better handling and can live with a heavier car with less range. It's all about priorities, preferences, taste, ...
Love BMW
You say the ride is poor for a family car(Tesls), but you are always solo. Fill it up with people and see how much better it feels
We used the cars all week with families in them, and still it’s poor. Filling it with people isn’t the answer to the Model Y’s problem. It’s spring and damper rates that are fundamentally flawed.
@@AutoEV thanks for the reply. I won’t have one then 😜
I own an ‘OLD’ RWD LFP M3 . Unfortunately Elon Musk is more concerned with his Twitter follower numbers than overseeing a new look which is what truly matters in the auto sales world. Parking on your laurels isn’t smart behaviour from the indulgent board.
Must agree the bmw is the one for me when i have moved away from bmw i have been let down thats my opinion
volvo is for the WEF green jacket wokies. 🙂 It's as sexy as a wollen sock.
Could you not have done this video 3 weeks ago when I had to chose between the three of them 😂
Agh timings...
if the bmw just had a slightly bigger battery, just 10 kwh. and maybe another 50 to 100 ponies.
I think its quick enough. Closer to 300 miles of usable range would be nice though.
Did we miss the efficiency part?
Perhaps we skipped over it.
Plus the biggest issue is that BMW & VOLVO loose money on every electric car they make.
Not the best formula for a successful business moving forward.
I’m not a hater - but I am a realist.
Usability section.
@@AutoEV My apologies.
The high DC on the Tesla is overrated. Most top out on 180 in practice.
The fact that the Tesla Y is too hard can also be seen in the footage, your body jumps like a sparrow :-) I appreciate your honesty about the Tesla Y, which is not often seen, because you may lose some subscribers, but I agree with you! :-) Tesla Y is now unacceptable for me, because it has lost parking sensors and radar, and none of AI(image processing) will help you if it has to take data only from the visual camera (bad weather, darkness, hidden obstacle, etc.). I am sad that Tesla uses customers like testers...
Why bother about 0-60 times . ?? I don’t care about that .,I’d have the Volvo ..excellent Aftersales service
Another great video chaps 👏🏽
In terms of like for like value for money, a similarly specced iX3 M Sport Pro trumps the iX1, being superior in build quality and general all round comfort & driver involvement #inmyopinion
Big fan of the iX3.
Old hat, new model out soon…..
I’ve thought a lot about the ‘Tesla fanboys’ comments for you..
‘Methinks you doth protest too much’ basically.
You are right about the damping etc. It can be bone shaking.. it’s certainly not dangerous though and by saying so you go too far.
As for the interior I find BMWs and Volvos interiors oppressive, vs the simple Tesla…even though a HUD would be great. To say ‘I’m over it” is just an incendiary way to say you prefer another interior. And to say the exterior is boring even led to your co-presenters pointing out some good things.
Hope this makes sense and you find it useful.
Cry harder....
@@FQA77 just trying to give good feedback. Sorry that’s too triggering for you.
There are hidden comments, they show when you sort by "newest first". I think they are pertinent, this kind of censorship is a not good.
No comments are hidden. Everyone is allowed and entitled to an opinion, unless it’s wholly inappropriate or personally vindictive.
@@AutoEV They are still hidden, I just checked - they only show if you sort by "newest first", I cannot find anything wrong with those comments, they are not misleading and are pertinent to the subject of the video. Those comments will appear to anyone this way, anyone cad read them.
@@SomewhereInTheSolarSystem I’ve done this and I see no hidden comments. All seem to be visible to me and all watching. I won’t censor anyone unless they become abusive and derogatory to us or our viewers.
@@SomewhereInTheSolarSystem It's how TH-cam present comments, it has nothing to do with AutoEV. Are you new to the internet?
@@zaphodsbluecar9518 This is not true, the comments remain hidden until the channel manager allow them in the YT Studio. Anyway, it's there for anyone to see.
You clearly don’t understand the technology advances of a Tesla over any other EV on the market.
Don’t mistake tech for talent. Having a lot of technology in their cars doesn’t necessarily make them better to drive, and this is the case here.
@@AutoEV BMWix3 is £20,000 more than a Tesla model Y, it’s has less tech, less features, less safe, less full self driving, less fast charge access, less power
, less range the list goes on.
I would take the Tesla over the BMW and the Volvo.
Even if I had the money for the BMW and the Volvo 👍
I understand the reasoning that Tesla is not as good as the other two driving wise, but you forget one major issue regarding the BMW for example: fact that it attracts a certain crowd and most Tesla drivers dont want to belong to that crowd. I assume i do not have to explain 'a certain crowd'.
The BMW is almost $30k USD more than the Tesla so is it that much better? And it’s pronounce TESLA not TEZZLA.
Nobody pays list prices for BMWs
@@sunseeker-yb5qt unless you can get the BMW at a $10k discount, Tesla is still a better deal.
@@pytube777in Germany you get more than that
@@sunseeker-yb5qtguess BNWs retail prices are inflated there.
@@pytube777 the BMW is just another level of Quality in every aspect. So everybody who loves premium will never go for Tesla as long as he can charge at home and is not a regular long distance driver. Clearly BMW was always premium with premium prices and it will always stay like this. But if you drove a Toyota Corolla as ICE because it was the car which sold most worldwide then you probably buy now the Tesla. If you are a regular long distance driver the i4 is the better car. For the normal use around town and some travels here and there I prefer the compact ix1.
Tesla is just so much better value than all the others. To stimulate sales for the quarter the Model Y was down to £37950 yesterday, didn't last long though. I like the Volvo but the efficiency and reliability are not meant to be good.
The issue with Tesla continuing to adjust prices is that it gives people no confidence in where they are meant to be. "Should I wait in case there is another readjustment?". Also, it will crucify their residual values, and lease companies won't want to deal with them anymore if this continues as its so unpredictable.
@@AutoEV True, but prices went too high and now they are coming down and they have production they need to sell. The ride I believe is improved on more recent production cars but the seats I didn't like just as you mention in this review. The Volvo I would go for, really nice car but the price is way too high as the base spec is so poorly equipped.
@@carlarrowsmith The one you can order now have way better specs at the same price point.
Hi Carl was the 37.950 price on inventory stock?
@@AutoEV Funny that your take on Tesla is negative regardless of what they do. The truth is that leasing companies want Teslas in a big way and even more so now that prices dropped. Had Tesla not reduced prices you would certainly say they were overpriced. Getting predictable. The bottom line is that Tesla general trend is to lower prices based on their relentless drive for efficiency in supply chain and production. Price cuts on a Tesla are indeed good news in general. It means more people can afford the car that is taking the world by storm.
Agree about the Tesla, very boring. A great calculator with wheels.
FFS Bryan, it's real wood trim...
...your biases are showing badly.
Have you never considered your repeated complaints about 'thick' steering wheels may be due to you having small hands?
Ultimately the Tesla is the only one that's designed ground-up to be an EV; sure it looks like a duck that's flown into a wall, but that's due to aerodynamics - it's a reverse-teardrop shape unlike the inefficient boxy SUVs.
The seats you criticise for being too soft and unsupportive in the Tesla are the first ones I've been able to drive for four hours without getting a sore back. And you criticise the Tesla's seats because they're unsupportive when cornering aggressively, but praise the BMW for not being quick?
The phone app is light-years ahead of the competition. I find it amusing that you criticise the Tesla's infotainment screen, while praising the BMW, which is cluttered with row after row of little icons. Why they would abandon I-Drive is beyond me. And the Volvo's is just an android auto installation with little customisation and offers nowhere near the integration of the other two.
As for the speedometer, don't you use cruise control when driving - once it's set, that's that. And it's really no harder to quickly glance to the left than it is to glance down - it's just what you're used to - and doesn't take long to adjust.
The interior of the Volvo is horribly dated; you criticise the Tesla, but did you not see the cr@ppy quality of the plastics around the volume control? Did you not notice the preponderance of piano-black plastics?
And it's no longer a Volvo Bryan; it's a small, cramped Geely with a Volvo badge.
If you buy a Tesla, you immediately double the number of available chargers, and increase the reliability immeasurably, not to mention the ease of initialising charging.
As for the Tesla being 'too powerful' - did you put it into 'chill' mode?
The entry-price for the Volvo is 46k, the BMW 51k, but the Tesla is from $44k - yet you don't mention that and talk about the top-spec Tesla and make disparaging remarks about the Performance models without mentioning the additional features. As I said, biased.
And I'm not a fanboi Bryan - you know my recent vehicle history - but you shouldn't have bothered with this review; it was apparent from the start you'd already made your decision.
Now, I have taken my time to respond to you on this, because you have been a long time supporter of the channel, and I have always valued you opinions. However, I have to take issue with some of the things you've commented on. First of all, I'm sorry, but the wood trim is not real wood. And that comes from decades of working in the classic and luxury car market. And yes, I have small hands. But would you say that to a woman who may be interested in buying one of these? Who, let's face is, a huge target demographic for this type of car. I'm short too, so does that mean I can't criticise a seat for lack of adjustment? Are small-handed short people not a consideration when designing cars? Are my opinions not worthy because I'm a little fella and not some 6ft 5in 20 stone prop forward?
I agree that the Tesla is the only one that is designed from the outset to be an EV, but did I criticise it for not being that? I say that because of it it has the largest interior with no intrusions and we all agreed that if you were coming to an EV for the first time, the Tesla is probably the one that will be the easiest to get on with. Hardly a criticism.
Now the seats. Everyone is different shapes and sizes, and what's good for a goose, may not be so great for a gander. That said, my point is, to have a car with that level of performance, which let's be honest, is something that the company has themselves traded off for years and not have a seat that supports you when indulging in that performance is poor. But my main point is due to the lack of body roll, something that can be quite welcome in a car, you tend to slide out of them due to the car not moving to the effect of a corner, meaning you (or your passengers) do. That is why the BMW and the Volvo are better purely because of the support the seats give you in day-to-day scenarios. It has nothing to do with "cornering aggressively" and everything to do with basic comfort.
The infotainment screen. I'm questioning you on this one as I have continuously said that I LIKE the Tesla's screen, and do so again in this test. That's the part of the interior I do like. I like it on the Model 3, and I like here in the Model Y. I don't say anything different. As for the speedometer, no I don't just use cruise control and thats it! I only ever use it on motorways and open A-roads as around town that is dangerous in my opinion. And all I said was I found the speed readout a little small in the corner of the screen, and maybe would have preferred it if they had made it larger OR add a heads-up display.
OK, quality. I'm sorry but the solidity of both the BMW and Volvo is way ahead of Tesla. And its not just me who has said this. Tesla continue to use cheap plastics in their cars and they just don't feel as premium as the other two, and many others in this class of car. I'm sorry, but that is a well documented criticism by many, not just me.
Charging network - show me the section of the video where we DON'T applaud the Supercharger network? I recall saying it twice that it is a massive advantage.
Its not the power I have an issue with per se, its the lack of chassis dynamics that go along with it. Charlie mentions that he likes the fact that it s almost a "Q-Car" but we all felt that the dynamics let it down, making something with that level of performance poor and ill conceived.
The price - We were comparing a like-for-like car, so with the Tesla it was only the Long Range AWD that gave the price for. The Volvo can be had with the same battery and motor of the test car, but in a lower trim level, hence why we mentioned it. Its mechanically the same, but in a lesser trim level. If you opt for the lower priced Tesla, it would have been mechanically and technically different to the car we had on test, hence we only gave the price for that car. In the sense that we said of you went for the dual motor Volvo, it was way more expensive than that others.
I get Tesla evokes a huge amount of passion and debate. It was the same when we featured the Model 3 against the Polestar 2 and BMW i4 last year. We chose the three cars on the basis that it was as close as we could get to replicating the video we did last year, and I also wanted to give the Model Y another chance over a longer period than I had previously had the car for. And I have to say, I feel you have "twisted" a few things to meet your agenda.
But I won't say something just to appease the masses if I don't believe it is correct. And in my opinion (which I, just as you, are entitled to) the Model Y, good as it is in some areas, falls short in the important ones that it needs to deal with as a family car. The company were instrumental in laying the foundations for bringing the EV into the world for the masses, and must be commended for that. But they have rested on those laurels, and just don't seem to be moving the game on like they first did. Too many legacy manufacturers are now surpassing them in terms of their cars. Hyundai, Kia, Genesis, BMW to name but a few.
And like I said, it wasn't technically the best car we had on test (we all felt the BMW was) I would have bought the Volvo just because its the one I like. Just as some people will buy a Tesla as its the one they like. The world would be a boring place if we were all the same after all.
But, when all is said and done, I will continue to review and appraise every car on its merits and how it meets the criteria of the people that may be looking to buy it. So if that is something that you don't want to hear, I'm sorry, but thank you for watching and supporting us so far. It's been appreciated.
Best wishes
Bryan
@@AutoEV
And I appreciate your response. I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree on this one Bryan. And I will continue to support your channel, for all the reasons I've mentioned previously.
As for the 'fake wood' - here's a video of a professional woodworker sanding and staining the timber on the dash; you can't do that on plastic:
th-cam.com/video/h-8k3g59GHs/w-d-xo.html
Cheers.
Let’s go a Tesla bashing 😂
Being incapable of answering specific issues is the cult’s greatest unhelpful weakness ……it’s not a tech ‘device’ on wheels .
1- Tesla
2 - BMW
3 - Volvo
Tesla looks futuristic and cool.
BMW is conservative.
Volvo looks boring and old school.
Cant believe he thinks white is not cool
BS, model Y is the best of the best.
Except it isn’t.
@@AutoEV I rather listen to a Titan, real engineer with large experience, Sandy Munroe, than some random guy not able sometimes to express simple concepts, lol!
@@cornelio2u yet your initial comment was so insightful.
And this random guy has quite a few years experience assessing and evaluating cars, hence why I do this. But thank you for watching and taking the time to share your thoughts.
Only one day when models Y have straight panels and no huge gaps.
I'm so happy with my Y.
I can live with the gaps.
I am so sorry that this comparison is so biased. I expected a more balanced view. The chosen Volvo is wrong, you should had the dual motor and that way you could improve the information on matters like testing also the off-road ability of the three cars, etc. I was expecting a great test driving these three cars, but it was disappointing, I am sorry.
Sorry that you didn’t enjoy the video. We didn’t have a dual motor Volvo as one wasn’t available and we wanted to keep the prices similar in terms of their basic costs for that model, ie, all starting at around £50-£52,000. We didn’t off road them as 99% of the use these cars will get will be on-road and the insurance to try otherwise would simply be infeasible for a small channel like us.
As I say, I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy it, but thank you for watching and taking the time to write.
'Biased' because you don't agree with the views.
@@davids4696 whose views?
@@AutoEV hi the previous person who was whining
OH I see! My bad......
Honestly: Three really ugly lumps of car. None of them will age well.
Too wordy for me. Had to give up I'm afraid.
Apologies. We did say it was a long one in the description! Thank you for trying however and taking the time to comment.
You seem to prefer ICE design and do not prefer efficiency. A pure EV does prefer that regardless of make. So maybe change your name of the Chanel to AutoAlmostEv
No, we prefer a good car. One that is good to drive and fulfils it’s brief. That’s all.
@@AutoEVYes I get that, but if we are going Electric. We can,'t have BMW's or anyone else doing a ICE car Electric. We need to be efficient.
@@iambig61 even if that car is inferior? Why can’t we have an ICE car going electric if it’s as good as a ground up EV and is better to drive? We accept inferiority for the sake of saying it doesn’t have an ICE equivalent? I’m sorry, but first of all that doesn’t make sense, and secondly, that’s not what this channel is about. We review cars and deliver a verdict on what we feel is the best car so that buyers have an informed conclusion on which to base their buying choice on. We don’t review hybrids, or ICE cars, so all the cars we test are EVs.
@@AutoEV So the question is, what is a good EV? For most users it is a car that you can use locally and do some long range travers. Your tests are still related to how it compares to an ICE vehicle. Come on, get on.
@@iambig61 a good EV is a good car. Electric power is another form of combustion. No more, no less. We judge them exactly the same way as most buyers would. Stop trying to imply that we should accept EVs that are inferior just so that we can have EVs. Legacy manufacturers have decades of engineering cars to the point that irrespective of how they are powered, they are either good or bad cars. And that is how we appraise them.
This is my 1st and last review to watch in this channel! 👎
I’m sorry to hear that. Thank you for watching anyway.
Tesla model Y is the most sold car now and Tesla owner has the highest percentage of brand loyalty. But you guys ditch it. Ha ha ha. Maybe you guys should consider retiring. 😊. Yes I love my Tesla. Age 57 if you were wondering. 😉
You're confusing popularity with ability. We didn't say that the Tesla wasn't selling, but its our job to pass an informed opinion on how the cars perform, and in this case, we felt both the BMW and Volvo were superior cars.
@@AutoEV Thanks for answer to my comment. I think people in general make good decisions based on their needs. The Y is a combination of many factors that outperforms other ev’s in the same price range. Much like VW Golf back in the day. Buying a car is a trade off. Hard to get all of your wishes fulfilled in the same car, but I think the Y comes darned close. That’s why it’s a best seller. It is the sum of all factors. In my country the X1 and Volvo are almost non present on the registration charts. (Norway)
Your comments on Tesla are so biased I started wondering if this is sponsored by BMW/Volvo?
No, we just tell it like it is. If a car is poor, we say it.
BMW is not premium!
Don't want to offend BMW or Volvo or they will black list you from getting new cars to test. Tesla is the only brand where you are not sponsored so throw it under the bus. How typical, LOL!
Wow. Interesting (if very wrong) viewpoint. Maybe, and I appreciate that this might be hard concept for some one narrow-minded to accept, that in OUR OPINION, the BMW and Volvo were better cars? Humour me and just entertain that notion before jumping to ridiculous conclusions next time.
It is so telling that on all of the metrics that can be measured you are forced to admit Tesla is the best but on fuzzy subjective things you attack Tesla relentlessly. Your bias and motivation are crystal clear. Statements on Tesla like "you feel like you are not in control", "it feels dangerous to drive" and "seats are spongy" say it all. Are you aware that the Model Y was tested to be one of the best cars in the famous Moose test? Are you aware that most reviews say the Model Y seats conclude they are comfortable? You think you convincing people of your bias but actual Tesla owners can and do smell your bs.
The “Moose test” only shows one element of a car’s safety, and that’s not the dynamics we are calling into question. If you listen to what we say, it’s discussing the element of how the power is delivered in comparison with the other two. The throttle positioning and tuning of how the power is deployed is what we don’t like. And none of us liked it. I also say that the seats are padded well enough, but my issue is they offer no lateral support and with a car that rolls as little in the bends as the Model Y, the elements of physics take over and you end up sliding in the seats, amplified by the shiny material. Both the Volvo and the BMW offer much better, far more supportive seats and I’m sorry, but that’s just a fact. And these elements are “fuzzy”. These are family cars, and irrespective of anything, the comfort and ability to transport their occupants easily on the day-to-day is how they need to be judged. Not by 0-60mph times or such claims. And in that instance, the Tesla falls short. I’m sorry you disagree with that, but you are entitled to your opinion. Just like we are with ours.
@@AutoEV Did you notice that you didn't once mention the element of driving dynamics represented by the Moose test during your review while this is an aspect of driving dynamics and safety that most people would be interested in. Why? Convenient miss. In your attempt to save face you state "how the power is delivered in comparison with the other two. The throttle positioning and tuning of how the power is deployed is what we don’t like." That is mouthful of horse manure and you know it. It uses a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. Tesla Model Y power delivery is smooth as can be and adjustable to chill mode if desired so that it doesn't have too much power for those wanting the calmest experience. Also, you conveniently left out any mention of the Model Y being the safest car tested by the EURONCAP which speaks to its superior design over the others. Another convenient miss on your part. Tesla Model Y just beats the other two cars on virtually all metrics including safety, performance, efficiency, reliability of power train, charging infrastructure, while providing exceptional comfort. Your little jabs on subjective points are all you have and boy did you jump on those few opportunities...."cheap interior," "Tesla cheated on the cargo capacity," etc. The truth is that many people would much prefer a serene clean interior look and Tesla executed beautifully. The stated cargo capacity is not cheating, it is real. The alcantara material used to hold and charge the mobile phones which you berated as cheap is actually used on very high end cars but you are apparently not aware of this. You guys need to up your game if you are to have any credibility.
Ok, I'm not being drawn into this. You didn't like the review because we found issues with a car you like. In the same way if we find issues with other cars we test then we state them. I've been evaluating cars for a very long time, and pardon me for saying so, I reckon after nearly 30 years of doing it, I can tell a good car from a bad one. And I'm sorry if you don't like what I say, but I stand by it. Nothing was "conveniently left out". Our reviews are over an hour long and some of the most thorough out there. And it isn't actual Alcantara that is used on the Tesla as that is a brand in its own right that IS used on other high end cars. But not Teslas. And I do know that because of my 30 years of working in the HNW motor industry where I dealt with them.
So thank you for watching, taking the time to comment, but its clear that you wont hear a different viewpoint. If our reviews aren't for you, then we can't please everyone. But I wont be told how to express a very educated opinion.
Best wishes
@@AutoEV I just explained why your review was NOT thorough having left out absolutely vital information such as key safety information and driving dynamics information among many other things. Spending 1 hour covering 3 cars does not constitute a thorough review. Its the items covered that matters. I have 40 years of experience as an engineer in the aerospace industry and I recognize when important data is left out. This was a major flaw in your review. There should have been real facts and data on key aspects of the car. Why hide the EURONCAP safety testing and MOOSE testing results? When it comes to cars and especially EVs, people care about range, safety, performance, drivers assist technology, security, overall comfort, and the ability to road trip without being left stranded or waiting for long periods to charge. Tesla factually is best in all these categories regardless of your hit piece in the subjective realm.
@@getreal7217 ok, so please tell me your informed opinion on the driving characteristics of the new BMW iX1? I will listen to your views and judge them dispassionately.