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Dude I feel like crying. I am 30 years old, lifelong christian, and feeling finally like another believer is sharing how I feel. Thank you for this video. It's helpful for me for sure.
Check out John St Julien, he is a christian and white magician (altho he would never call himself that). He runs a childrens home in Tanzania and has manifested alot of good things
You're not a Christian if you don't trust God and resort to spirits that are dead (aka not in heaven) or evil (demons). The quotes used in this video from the bible are completely taken out of context. Terrible (and probably deliberate) exegesis.
Almost everyone probably practices magic regularly. It's just that most are unaware they are stuck in a long term mass societal spell that's not of their own making. Pawns in the game.
Definitely, but that's a sort of minor magic that's approved of and sanctioned by society. I wonder if anyone ever had any of those wishes come true. I pretty much gave up on that when I realized Santa and the Easter bunny were fake. A really long time ago. The most obvious hidden spells are hiding in plain sight, right in the language. Hell-O; used billions of times daily. There's tons more where that came from. Far more underhanded. Mass mind control works. But perception is everything. Heaven and hell are always available.
@@TheAmethystSpirit excuse me but would you mind telling me where could I learn more about that? I don't even know what to search but I'm interested! (just a yt video would be more than enough!)
@@pedroupaiva Put this in the search bar.... etymology of english magic Tons of videos come up. I'm not sure I've seen any of them. I did notice Lifting the Veil in there a couple times and the 'Great Arcanum'. Those should be pretty good.
Hey, thanks so much for making this video. I am the daughter of a Southern Baptist preacher. I used to highly cling to the religion I was taught, until I moved halfway across the world to live on my own. That opened me up to question what I'd been taught, but I was still afraid to do so, lest I go to hell. It took 1.5 yrs of therapy before I could even express doubt about my religious beliefs, and the first time I uttered it aloud, my throat clamped down and began spasming. My therapist had to run get me water and it took 20 mins for me to be able to speak again. That's how engrained it was. But after that, I began to explore. The Christian God never responded to me. But with regular meditation, it didn't take long for something else to begin responding to me. To the point it was undeniable. Less than a year later, my energetic awareness popped off spontaneously and allll the entities came to say sup. But I still struggled with fear because I'd been taught every entity free roaming the earth was a demon. And I for sure encountered some demons, but also many good and helpful entities. Anyway, point is I've been energetically aware for 2 years but only started practicing the lbrp 3 weeks ago. Despite how profoundly better I felt, the symbolism and occult aspect would cause my ego to slip in words like "you're gonna go to hell for this. You're probably summoning demons rn. They're gonna trick you and drag you to hell." But your video has helped. Most people who practice Magick/occult dislike Christians. It's nice to hear a perspective from someone who... Doesn't.
@@wigsy9386 he was killed not for magick all though many times the Pharisees compared him to a devil. They said something like “only devils can tell devils what to do and they listen “ but Jesus was killed for saying he was the son of god which means he was saying he and god were one and the same.
@@reyskully7778 So in ways he was seen as the demiurge, only the demiurge would feel that his evil would be good and only seen as evil to those that don't understand him. It's an interesting subject and thought process for me.
@@wigsy9386 Jesus in my opinion is so much more than a man, the body everyone equated to as Jesus was just his flesh and he identify with his flesh in the same way if u burned ur tee shirt.. u wouldn’t think by burning ur shirt that I was harming u. Jesus identified himself with the source and was killed for it and he was killed by the people who claimed to be in contact with the source… people were routinely kept out of the temple because of fleshly issues and the contents of their hearts were ignored. All they did was kill the flesh of Jesus and in so he never truly died. I believe this is the meaning of the idea that Jesus resurrected. Even the Bible never explained what the disciples saw when Jesus came to them but he didn’t let them touch him because I believe he had no form to touch but the disciples identified the flesh of Jesus with the source itself so when the source began to interact with them they saw it as Jesus himself… it’s a beautiful topic to discuss and I’d love to discuss it more with others if they wish to as well 💪💪
I believe that magick, at it's most basic level, is neutral. It is what each practitioner does with it in intent and action that determines the type of results wielded from it and the path that you go down. For me personally, hell is simply the unacknowledged path of the firestarter. If you throw enough matches around (war, looking down on others, curses, greed, hatred, gossip, etc...), eventually you end up setting yourself on fire. I think the golden rule was actually a veiled warning. "Do unto others as you would like them to do unto you" could have ended with "...or you end up in a hell of your own creation". Oddly enough, the more that I tuned into what Jesus said, the less the church resonated with me. So I chose to follow the teachings of Jesus and left the church.
Sure you do. And I guess you particularly follow His teaching about not practicing the magic arts (Revelation 22:15), which if you do, Jesus warns, will result in eternal damnation.
I'm loving your teaching! I've served as a Christian pastor for a little more than 8 years now-everything you say in this video accords with my understanding of the faith. Great job! I look forward to learning more from you. Thanks! :)
@@mistawess Practicing Jesus' way? Yes, as I understand it. My religious study and practice enrich my life and, by nearly all reports, the lives of those with whom I share community. However, I'm exploring spiritual terrain well beyond the boundaries of what many other Christians would deem acceptable. James Hollis is a Jungian Psychologist who talks about the psychic strength necessary to hold in creative tension ambiguity, ambivalence, and anxiety. Most Christians and traditional religionists of all stripes value religion precisely because it relieves them of these things. I believe Jesus' living faith, insight, inspiration, and power had their source in such incomprehensible Mystery. I know not her name. I know not that she is my mother or what that means. I know not that this is her breast, and from it, comes milk, or that this is my mouth and with it, I suckle, or the significance of any of that. I do not know how or why this contact and interaction between these various objects satisfies or drives me to such satisfaction. I only give myself to the impulse to cry, the impulse to latch on, the impulse to suck. And miracle of miracles, my soul is deeply nourished, and I thrive. I rarely meet another person, especially among more traditional Christians, who can find rest nursing at God's breast in infantile silence and peace. Most demand answers. Most demand a clear distinction of categories. Most demand clear direction. Most demand assurance of absolute, unending pleasure or the total absence of pain as compensation for the insults, injuries, and injustices suffered in this life. I'm not most, and I feel that quite acutely. But I'm in love with the Mystery. I believe that Paraclete has yet to empty Her milk supply. And I'm still hungry and still quite small. I can't even speak a word of my Mother's language, though I've listened to Her voice all my life. I just babble with the rest of the babies. And cry when my belly feels less than full. "If we are 'out of our mind,' as some say, it is for God; if we are in our right mind, it is for you." ;)
@@reyskully7778 Being friends and colleagues with several other pastors, I assure you that if we are legion, I got separated from the group. But I also can attest that many pastors are presented information in school that they never talk about from the pulpit. Some of that is because they only learned it to get the grade. But it didn't accord with the framework they developed as younger people, so they discarded it immediately. For others, it takes so much informational scaffolding for a layperson to even glimpse some of this stuff that preachers can teach on it effectively in 20 minutes once a week and still satisfy the preaching expectations of the general churchgoing. Yeah, honestly, you said it quite nicely: "...due to the dark age ideals most common Christians hold." Helping Christians unlearn those "dark age ideals" is more effectively done individually, slowly, over many conversations, over a long period of time. And even them, that embedded Sunday school theology has ridiculous staying power.
I love this so much. I have been terrified but it's like the universe is shoving me toward magic. I appreciate you making a video that really helps me understand. Thank you 😊
Cheers to fellow introverts that seek the spirit of the law over the letter and the capacity of discernment to know when they are aligned. The wrap up was the best, "Be kind to others, they may not have had the privilege of an indoctrination free life." That is awesome.
Wow!! I absolutely love this! I’m a Christian I also love Magic and focusing on an enchanting lifestyle. Your channel is a wonderful blessing to me. Thank you. I’ve enjoyed your insight so much.
Just FYI, I'm reading "Soul Journeys" by Daniel L. Prechtel et al. and as a magick-loving Christian, you might like it too :) about what Christianity and Shamanism can learn from each other.
I am a philosopher, an ocultist and I am a Christian by my True self and my background and I can tell you than I rarely seen such a wise explanation about the spiritual realms of the world. You are truly a wise person. I love you ❤️ and appreciate you a lot for your enlightenment on the true spiritual path. Only the TRUE will make us free in spirit!
If anyone wants to truly understand the astral where you go after you die (temporarily) then look to the theosophists and their explanation of death and the afterlife if your are struggling with the warped christian views. You go to whatever level you are on earth and shed your patterns, some that you enjoy (like ignorance, selfish tendencies, judgmental behaviours, controlling behaviors ect) they speak of seven levels of the astral (which even though spoken as layers, are just a way for people to categorize and conceptualize the astral, there really are not divisions). The lowest two of the seven layers are where major drug addictions are shed, hurtful or hateful tendencies are shed, the lowest level is where the most devious tendencies like the addiction to murder and rapist type mental and emotional patterns are shed. The middle is what you would consider purgatory if you were catholic, just lile boring mundane on earth where you believe you are still doing what you did on earth, the highest two levels are good and amazing. At the top level you basically do whatever you want to do, go around helping others and being full of love and joy and beauty. After all these are shed (when you are ready to let go of all those things) you go through a second death and move up to a realm of learning in preparation for the next lifetime, learning everything that you choose. You have a soul family there that you incarnate with and also masters that don't incarnate anymore (mostly) that are helping you learn how to become like them and learn the lessons of earth and love. Then you move up to the highest realm called deva chan (which is pure spirit) where you can choose to reincarnate to finish lessons and choose your next birth, or if you have let go of all of your desire to incarnate, you can stay in that type of blissful state. Most people end up in the middle astral or higher after death. Some people incarnate as soon as two days after death and others many years... On average usually 87 years between births and can be as long as 1200 years, or never if that is what you choose. Just some solace for people that are as indoctrinated as I was in their adolescence. You only go to where you are at in this life because you experience what you believe and most people have no idea that they are dead after they leave here. Like a dream where you experience what you believe. That is the astral. Learn advanced astral projection and just stay in your room or visit a friend and gradually move to the outer reaches so that you know how to navigate the astral. The theosophists say to try an picture and visualize a diety you trust often like jesus, or krishna, mother mary, madonna, or an angel you trust or guru that has died and if you do it enough, saying come get me when I die, then your soul family or guides (masters) can appear in that form to make you feel safe enough to lead you out of "your own mental projections".... Hope that helps
This is also in line with what the Early Hindu Vedic texts said about the afterlife, The Vedas are full of wonderful information, and are some of if not the oldest books written on spiritual revelation. The only thing i'd like to say about your wonderful explanation, is "2 days" in the astral could be 100 millennia here on earth, since technically time is virtually non existent or at the very least much slower the higher up you go, and we don't necessarily reincarnate on a linear earth time line, that is, we can reincarnate in any time period that would best serve the lessons we must learn or how we will serve the earth etc. But of course that is just what I've gleaned in my own research. Great explanation, peace and love brother!
@Brandon Question….Are you describing each Sefirot when you speak of each level where you shed your traits after death? With that being said, is Malkuth the lower where you shed addiction and murder, then move up the Tree of Life from there?
the Bible is FULL OF MAGIC 🪄 and I love it 🖤🤍🙏🏽 High Priests practiced “the craft” and divination and were ordained to do so. Heaven/Hell is a mindset and a projection of ones inner state
You are a blessing for those of us just dipping our toes into the mystic arts. And I'm sure for the adept practioners as well. Please keep up these insightful and honest videos. You're approach is more genuine than anyone else on the sight.
It seems that some people are confused by the word 'magic,' and what it means. Some people, even some pagans, think that all magic is witchcraft and therefore forbidden by the Bible. That is, they conflate magic with witchcraft. However, the Bible does not condemn all magic. It condemns the misuse of magic, consorting with false gods or idols, consulting the dead, and consorting with demons or evil spirits. Communication with angels is common in the Old Testament. Abraham and Lot were visited by angels. Gideon was visited by an angel. Jacob was met by angels in Gen. 32:1-2, and wrestled with an angel in Gen. 32:24-30. Angels were assigned to protect and guide Israel through the wilderness in Ex. 14:19, 23:20-23. An angel appeared to Joshua. In the New Testament an angel appeared to Mary, and to Zacharias. Angels appeared to shepherds at the birth of Jesus. An angel strengthened Jesus in the garden of Gethsemane. Divination was practiced by high profile biblical characters. Joseph has a silver cup used for divination in Gen. 44:2, 5, and admits to divination in Gen. 44:15. The Urim and Thummim were used for divining God's will in Num. 27:21, 1 Sam. 28:6. The Urim and Thummim were placed in the ephod of the high priest in Ex. 28:4, 6, 28, 30. Which is used by David to divine God's will in 1 Sam. 23:2, 4, 6, 9-12, 30:7-8. Lots were also used to divine God's will. Prov. 16:33, 18:18, Lev. 16:8, Josh. 18:6-10, 1 Sam. 14:41-42, Acts 1:26. Gideon used a fleece to divine God's will in Judges 6:36-40. But, Gideon made an ephod that became a snare unto him and his house in Judges 8:27. Probably because it wasn't in the tabernacle and being worn by a priest, but was in Ophrah where Gideon had built an altar. Perhaps similar to Micah in Judges 17:5-13, and 18:14-31. They went astray in worshipping other gods. Jacob used magic in Gen. 30:37-43, as he was instructed by an angel of God in a dream, Gen. 31:9-13. Moses was instructed to use magic in Exodus 4:2-9. Which he did in Ex. 7:8-12, 15-21, 8:1-6, 16-17, 20-24: 9:3-6, 8-10, 22-25: 10:12-15, 21-22. In Ezekiel 4:1-17, 5:1-4, Ezekiel is instructed in sympathetic magic. In Jeremiah 27:2, Jeremiah is instructed to wear a yoke as a sign or form of sympathetic magic, which is broken by Hananiah in Jer. 28:10, also as sympathetic magic in conflict with Jeremiah, and which results in Hananiah's death in Jer. 28:15-17. While these can be argued to merely be metaphorical portrayals of prophecy, the principle of a sympathetic connection between the symbol and the reality is still there and is enacted with real world consequences for rebellion and rejection of the message. God's magicians, miracle workers, etc., can be resisted and rejected, imprisoned and executed, but there are still consequences. Jesus turned water into wine; multiplied fish and loaves of bread; walked on water; calmed storms; increased Peter's catch of fish; manifested money from a fish's mouth; healed people; cast out demons; raised the dead; and in John 14:12, he said, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." Did Jesus feed the whole world? No. Did Jesus heal everyone? No. Matt. 13:57-58, "And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country, and in his own house. And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief." Psalm 78:41, "Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One."
@@FoolishFishBooks. I forgot one. When God told Moses to make a brazen serpent on a pole so that anyone who had been bitten by a venomous snake could be healed by simply looking at the brazen serpent. May God bless you and shine light on your path. 🙏
@@crater35. No. Demons and evil spirits are the ghosts of the Nephilim and Rephaim, which are separate from fallen angels. Many pagan gods were Nephilim or Rephaim, but not all Nephilim/Rephaim were pagan gods. For instance, Josephus claimed that the Titans, and the gods of the Greeks and Romans were from the same giants that were called Nephilim and Rephaim in the scriptures. They were called Nephilim before the flood, and Rephaim, Anakim, Emim, Horim, and Avim after the flood. See Deut. 2:10-23, and Num. 13:33. However the two words 'Rephaim,' and 'Nephilim,' are often translated as 'giants.' In Deut. 3:11, it says that king Og of Bashan was all that remained of the remant of giants (rephaim). In Isaiah 26:13-14, it talks about the hebrews having had other "lords" over them, "O Lord our God, other lords beside thee have had dominion over us: but by thee only will we make mention of thy name." In the next verse it says, "They are dead ('muwth'), they shall not live; they are deceased ('rephaim'), they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish." The word 'rephaim' is translated as 'the dead,' 'dead ones,' or in some translations as 'shades,' i.e. ghosts, in scripture after the death of king David because it is most often used in the context of hell, but not in the context of the spirits of human beings in Abraham's bosom. Before the death of king David the word 'rephaim,' is usually translated as 'giants.' This is because they had been exterminated by the time that David died. Many people read the passages about God telling the Hebrews to exterminate people groups and accuse God of being a psychopath, but the tribes that were targeted were the giant clans, the offspring and descendants of the mating between fallen angels and human women. Isaiah 14:21, speaks about Lucifer, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" And, in verse 21 it says, "Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities." In Isaiah 14:19, it says, "But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet." In this verse, the word translated as 'abominable branch,' is 'neser,' and is a loan word from Egyptian that means 'dead god,' a deified dead king, like the mummified pharaohs of Egypt. However, because of the lack of vowels in the oldest Hebrew texts, it is possible that the word is the Hebrew word 'nasar,' which means 'watcher,' and refers to the angelic beings spoken of in Daniel. Yet, Daniel is written in Aramaic and the word translated as 'watcher,' in Daniel is 'ir.' Still, there is one place where the word 'watcher,' is translated from the Hebrew 'nasar,' and refers to the same angelic beings, and that is Jeremiah 4:16, "Make ye mention to the nations; behold, publish against Jerusalem, that watchers (nasar) come from a far country, and give out their voice against the cities of Judah." The language here is similar to that of Dan. 4:17, "This matter is by decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones..." As well as Isaiah 13:5, "They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the Lord, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land." Consequently, it is my opinion that the "watchers," in Jer. 4:16, are angelic beings like those in Daniel 4, since they are decreeing or crying out judgment, and come from a "far country," akin to that in Isaiah 13:5. Nevertheless, the point is that the fallen ones, the fallen angels, were considered pagan gods in the Bible, while their mortal giant children were also considered to be gods to some people groups, but there is a theological difference. According to Deut. 32:8, God assigned angels to govern the nations. "When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the angels of God." (Septuagint translation). And, in Psalm 82:1, it says, "God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods." Verse 6, "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the Most High." Verse 7, "But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes." So, from the biblical perspective only angels were referred to as "gods." And, only the disembodied spirits, the ghosts of the dead Rephaim were considered demons. However, if some pagans had Rephaim as their god or gods, they wouldn't be demons until they died and their spirit was left to wander the earth. The Rephaim have no resurrection, "they shall not rise." So, while it is probably true that some pagan gods were demons/spirits of the Rephaim, it is also true that some were mortal Rephaim with long life spans that only became demons after they died. But, they wouldn't have been gods according to the biblical paradigm. Only the angels that God assigned to the different nations were considered "gods." Plus, there was idolatry which is merely worshipping some physical object, statue, or symbol that has no actual spirit, as if it has supernatural power. Idols might be dedicated to demons, and used to channel demons, but without that connection they are just dead objects. Some might refer to it as animism. Hence, not all pagan gods would have been considered demons or evil spirits. But some would have been if they met the right qualifications. Lastly, since your question assumes a non-biblical paradigm where any pagan god is demonized simply because it is pagan, the question over-simplifies the issue and mischaracterizes the biblical paradigm. I'm not trying to offend you: you probably don't know any other perspective. I am just pointing out that your question has assumptions that don't allow a yes response even if it has happened that way in some instances since it is not the paradigm that the judeo-christian traditions are rooted in. Likes or dislikes, and the characteristics of the deity, have nothing to do with why a pagan god might be considered a demon. And, it is that part of your question that I give a definite, "No," to, even if it is the case that some pagan gods were demons/spirits of the dead Rephaim. That is, the reason why a pagan god might be considered a demon, is not because of the reason you asked about. Further, if God assigned angels to be "gods," over the different nations then those pagan gods that remained loyal and obedient to Yahweh would not have been considered evil spirits, let alone rephaim/demons. There are instances of God assigning angels to guide and guard Israel, as well as punish Israel. And, instances of God indicating that there were other nations and people that were under his authority and enjoyed his favor, or suffered his judgment, and that he could use for his purposes. And, in the book of Daniel there is an account of the angel Michael, the "prince" (prinicipality) of Israel contending with the angelic prince of Greece. After the coming of Jesus, that arrangement of there being different angelic princes or gods over the different nations changed though. To elaborate further I would need to refer to texts that are considered apocryphal, so I will leave it here unless you have more questions.
As a Christian , i still believe picking one of the Abrahamic Religions if you want to avoid "hell" and go to "heaven". Imo i think it lays out the best guidelines/rules/laws for humanity to achieve this. I understand why some people do not like them. The reason why i say this is that with Magick it can be tricky to fully understand or grasp what you are doing and personally i think the impact could be worse than what we believe. I understand there is spells and Magick for good such as healing and things of similar nature but do we really know where this power is coming from. Most people watching this vid, including myself believe that there is more that meets the eye in this world like engery, entities demons, angels and all of that stuff. I do believe in Magick in all it forms and the bible even speaks about it with king Solomon who conjured many demons. Personally i believe when looking for answers that are above our aura or engery field we can simply not comprehend it as we are not designed for such knowledge. At the end of the day it depends on if you believe that these holy books are from God or not.
Amazing video! Loved the approach and insights, and couldn’t agree more. As Lon Milo says...”It's All In Your Head ... You Just Have No Idea How Big Your Head Is”...keep the good work FF!
I'm converting to Catholicism and I respect you and your channel since I believe in Magick and I'm very fascinated by it and everything related to it: Carl Jung, Kabbalah and Alchemy. I follow Christ's commandments and way of life because for me He (Besides being God incarnated) taught us the ultimate Magick: the Eternal Life! Btw I'm not trying to convert anyone here, just showing my perspective
You're in good company then, catholicism is a very neatly packaged reimagining of paganism. The result of our transition from the age of the ram to the age of the fish.
@@rred8674 Yes! Most people use the argument of "coincidence" between various religions and prophecies from the world to say that one religion is just a copy of another one, but for me this is synchronicity. The fact that aristotelian and (neo)platonic views of transcendence and the nature of the soul is fascinating of how close they were to christian theology, and in the Indian philosophy there is the Advaita Vedanta, it is also close to the view of non dualism in christianity.
I really want to make a reaction video to this but I will tell my experience in short here: I grew up as a Jehovah's Witness and the stories they tell from encountering anything that might reek of demons that attracts demons and how they tortured those who came in contact. The video addressed guilt for doing something bad but didn't seem to address the guilt I was feeling at the time: Guilt from seeking truth and feeling condemned for doing so and most of the time being torn apart from following the call from God inside me to come closer by seeking truth and the moral rules of the JW community. I studied in that time NLP (near-linguistic programming) and Hypnosis. Wanting to help other people I used it to help people get rid of fears and phobias, learn new behaviours and unlearn behaviour that was no longer needed. Yes, I got in trouble because I was learning more about strange and seemingly forbidden things and second because me helping people was seen a bandage fix and not trusting in how God would soon fix everything. I began to understand that the power that was told of in ancient scripture like the bible was mostly from people, prophets having direct contact and having conversations with angels. And that the rituals were the core and the theories around those experiences were build around it. My understanding was that the more closest experience I could have with the divine the purer the message would be. I began to study magick as a way to understand and achieve that. While being fearful about books and other physical items about things that might reek of demons I started to learn about magick...I tested the waters with downloading PDF files from Crowleys books and began to read. I love all kinds of magick traditions. I started with high magick and chaos magick. (yes, I had night I could not sleep out of fear but I was convinced that truth can not hurt the truth seeker or more accurately that not knowing can hurt far more than knowing and gaining understanding is a divine act.) I held on to Williams Blake view of the Divine and the divine in us and still do. (I could tell much more but I made this comment already way too long.)
My parents divorced when I was 2. My mom studied with the JW's and wanted out. For whatever reason, she realized her only way to get TOTALLY out was to light up a cigarette after a meeting one day. She was promptly disfellowshipped. I've often wondered why she didn't just quit.
@@peacefuldaizy5717 any religious organisation tempts to create a strong ingroup feeling (and a strong fear for what is outside often too). it’s not only a religion you say goodbye but the longer you are in it the more relationships, people, people who many called you friend, people you come to see as a second family, you say goodbye. That is what hurt me the most when leaving: It felt like I was betraying people who came to see me as friends, best friends even. It took me so long to find a few people I could really connect with and when they connected with me ..after a while ..I announced I left. I left the door open for them to connect with me again..but they didn’t.
@@Healitall : This is true. We have several family members who are JW, and they basically shunned my mom because she was disfellowshipped. I never thought about if she lost any close friends when she was disfellowshipped, but I am now thinking she did.
I also grew up a jw, was atheist after that for a little while, then had a really weird and cool experience and believed more in a higher power than ever before. Spent years searching and trying to make sense of the Bible to no avail. Then a bunch synchronicitys started happening, and here I am, subscribed to this channel. Life's a trip, just gotta let go and see where it leads you I guess.
I grew up as a JW myself and so much of this resonates with my experience. Just want you to know that you are seen. Since you mentioned Blake I think Isaiah’s statement “the voice of honest indignation is the voice of God” is worth mentioning here. Blessed be, Brother.
Thank you for challenging the walls most people grow up surrounded by in religion. I only opened my mind two years ago and really started questioning what I was taught as a "baptist" Christian. I had a very lengthy conversation ( 8 hours long) with a norse pagan which blew the lid off my brain pan. I was astounded, and absolutely captivated. My journey for knowledge and spiritual truth began. It's been a lonely path thus far, mentally challenging as old stigmas rise up constantly and have to be overcome, but also liberating and comforting as well. Knowing now that magik is simply a tool, like a knife, or firearms, and the responsibility is on the person who wields it, gives me much comfort in the matter. Your videos have been and are instrumental in finding good material, jumping off points, and pushing the restraints on my mind. Thank you.
I'm from the old school of thought. """It is not what you do it is how you do it at whom you do that to..."""I tried to be respectful to everyone to me there is no heaven or hell it is the heaven or hell you have in your heart that determines how light your feather is when you pass on...
It does actually matter what you do. Some "acts" are essentially passive and constitute giving into desire/craving rather than reaffirming the active domination by one's soul. If you eat a lot of sugar because it's very pleasurable for you, you are allowing the active principle of your soul to be nullified, which will cause a lot of distress if you cannot overcome it before death. It will impede you from certain tests that await you. You might think that you aren't distressed by eating sugar, but that would be utterly false, because craving in itself is a privation that prevents one from attaining spiritual enlightenment. One must learn how to dominate one's desires in some way so that one ceases to fall into the futile "fulfilment" of mere cycles. This might mean detatching yourself during pleasurable experiences, being mindful when you engage in experiences by opposing desire and then engaging in the act unpassionately, or it could mean meeting one's desires only in moderation. It's a lot more complicated than "do no harm," because the greatest harm you can ever do is to yourself and often its cause remains invisible if you aren't wise.
@@Thes4LT I'mma keep this 💯 with you. I'm a hell of a lot more than what this medallion that represents me is. Check out the video and go to the next level then maybe things WILL sweeten up for you too... Yeah I'm that person that others thought is last that has become first...
From what I’ve experienced (and this may be aligned with the orthodox Christian view) Hell is the same light of God:absolute Truth and Hell is the rejection of that absolute Truth. For us when we reject that Truth it feels like a burning flame but fir those who surrender to that Truth it’s a brilliant bright light that fills us with peace. So our perceptions and rejection or acceptance of the absolute Truth (Gods will and Gods law) are what generate that experience and allow us to exist at these various planes of consciousness. But that’s just my experience and perception at this stage . Departing from this plane out of sync with Truth seems like it will lead to an expansion of suffering and until we repent (turn our backs) to our misguided desires and desire what God desires we’re ultimately setting ourselves up for a painful existence
Damn, looks like I may be watching all the saturdays now...damn, much more fun videos that i expected! Nice approach to these sir. As for hell, i never believed in an afterlife hell, especially as most of the Jesuits and Basilian fathers in school either said there was no hell and that we all go to heaven -- to them this was without question a "medieval" aspect of the church left behind in practice and preaching if not in doctrine -- but then of course I explored dmt realms and found places that echoed the darker realms I've seen in spirit travelling. It struck me even if you spent what seemed like a day in some of these...places of consciousness...that would be far worse than any hell of which I've heard from preachers. But not even the most hellish of these hyperspaces pales in comparison to the hell you can enter in THIS world while alive. Thoughtful stuff, merci.
I'm not even half way through your video but whoa is this the part of TH-cam I've longed for I've been going through a mental health breakdown mixed with other stuff and it helped crystalized quite a bit for me Thank you
Same here I’ve been struggling with mental health problems lately and I know that a loving god doesn’t want that for me….. the church and people I know don’t like, that I like to play heavy metal rock music on my guitar, but I am sure if god my father loves me, he would want me to do something that makes me happy and to do something that puts my soul at ease so I’ve been playing guitar hardcore for the past couple weeks again and my mental health issues are getting better
Question for all the christian magicians here: How would you describe your relationship with god? And/or with jesus/christ? What was the significance of the sacrifice/resurrection? How do you interpet the second coming? What is christ consciousness?
Hi FF... how interesting and entertaining. However, I would like to recognize the FF Community... such great comments and input. This video really woke up the people. Each comment was on point and respectful to one another. That is a sign of respect and loyal to your channel. You and the FF Community are appreciated. Thanks folks... learned a lot from each of you!! Stay safe and question everything😜
Wishing you courage and blessings during any shift in world models you end up with, Bob! Maybe a video I made called "A problem with my religion" can shed further light.
Hey, killing a witch doesn't mean the witch is going to hell, right? 😅 One of the last straws before I stopped going to church completely was realizing that during confession, the priest was more troubled that I had not visited church each and every week than by the things which were actually troubling me.
We are created. We are created to create. To not do so is to laugh in the face of Spirit, to deny our natural existence, and to dim our lights to a pathetic flicker. Create, you that are created.
God looks at your heart. So intent, and where your heart is at.... that will be your answer. I think any true Christian will KNOW (through the Holy Ghost) whether they are in Gods will or not. Thank you for addressing this topic Foolie. I think the devil worshippers or practitioners of the darker side/elements of Magick know they are doing something wrong. Conviction of the spirit should guide the practitioner. Peace go with you all!
The strangest part of most people’s “hell theories” is that a just and righteous god created this place and that the majority of humanity will end up there. They base this on scripture that states no man comes to the father except through me ~Jesus. And most of these same people believe mankind is born into sin. So the only way to escape the fate of eternal hell is to embrace a life dedicated to Jesus. Meanwhile the tempting and deceiving spirits which lead man to sin become the overseers of such a place. Why would a just and righteous god create man who “loves the world so much that he sent his only begotten...” also hate the world so much as to damn everybody else (the majority of mankind) to a tortured eternity?
Or as Max Igan has said before, "What is spelling? We use magick all the time when we write. We use symbols called words to convey a message, or to bind an agreement. Essentially we're casting a spell".
10:37 Hearing this. I think it was your second or so video here in this Playlist. It was eye-opening. Along with the story you were covering at the time. I am still glad to have found your content.
Since I've started my path, this has been my inner mind chatter, coming from a heavy catholic background, it just didn't felt right to call GOD and pray for him without a true understanding of what I was calling Father or Mother. As long as you hear your heart and your inner gut then you'll know what path you need to take. If I'm going to hell? It's scary the thought of it...but is scarier the idea of not living fully before you depart, and still, you are tied down to your own fears and judgments. Thank you Foolish Fish for this video.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for making this. I’ve been struggling with this question for some time and it’s really been inhibiting my spiritual journey. I want to keep my Christianity, it’s always been a part of me, I just know there’s more out there though and I don’t feel like I can just ignore that. And thank you for that last bit at the end. I did not enjoy an indoctrination free life or childhood. That stuff is etched into me. But I still can’t help but see the beauty in Christianity. That’s why I just can’t bring myself to give it up, despite my broader spiritual interests and interests in magick. This gave me a lot to think about, so thank you again.
So I've been watching your videos for about a year now and I can honestly say they have truly enriched my life with valuable intake and information about topics most people must touch or talk about out loud ,keep up the GREAT WORK.
I had an idea about this while visiting a historic Spiritual community- Cassadega, FL. Growing up orthodox Christian, this town was infamous. As an open minded adult I found a gem of a place. I came to the conclusion that sometimes people get a satisfaction from feeling exclusive with the power to judge. It can be intoxicating. Maybe this is a coping mechanism to thier own inner shame. We should definately exercise discernment but through wisdom and the capacity of a receptive heart. Anyway, love your projections into the ether. Keep it up please.
When I was in middle school I was invited by my teacher to play the role of one of the Magi that visited Christ during the nativity school play. That role stuck with me for the rest of my life. I use magick to help my "neighbors" as much as myself
You have a really cool view here, I don't necessarily agree with you, I find it really weird, we supposedly live in the same universe but the way you explain it is so different than the way I see it, that it makes me think if we really do live in the same "place". It's nice to remember that my interpretation of reality isn't the ultimate interpretation of reality, most times I act as if I'm the center of the universe, without even realizing it.
That final comment has been definetly a thing to overcome for me.. I have been one of those peoole that for multiple resons grew up without being indoctrinated into any religion or faith and have judged people harshly for falling into sets of believes, as it seems so "logical" and evident to me that it is not their own ideas that guide them.. HOW DARE THEY not think like me xD
Ah, for sure, it's easy to miss how tight the trap is! 🙏 Seems so obvious... Just step out! But I love the trap... And if I even think of what it might be like out of the trap or that I don't love the trap, I'll experience pain and terror forever, and I'll never be allowed back in...
if you want to know more about the penetration of Magic into the Christian Middle Ages, then read the very good book: "Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition". Frances Yates
Thankyou for this fascinating upload, I consider myself a Christian but I have stopped practicing magick, as it's the dogma left over from my strict catholic upbringing. But certain spiritual experiences from practicing has thrown the catholic dogma as a lie. But it leads me with more questions.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I've stumble on the work of Manly P. Hall (Magic: a treatise on esoteric ethics) and he says that a black magician is someone that practices magick with selfish goals in mind... But, by that definition we are all black magicians... Even people that pray for good health...
the divine comedy is great because it's some nerd writing about how he got a personal tour of hell and all his posting enemies were there, it's extremely relateable well maybe they weren't posting enemies yet, posting not having been invented until luther's classic 95-tweet thread, but dante was way too online for someone born before the line
Great talk! I was listening to an organ music livestream earlier today, and when one person announced in the live chat that he was gay, another told him that he would go to hell, in other words to the pit of fire. I love the saying attributed to Rabi'a that she wanted to put out the fires of hell and burn heaven so people would want God for Himself, not for immortality. It's sad that the fear of hell should still inflict so much suffering on so many. I recently read a biography of John Betjeman in which it said that he feared going to hell because of having a mistress. I thought that it was terrible that he had felt like that.
Especially when YOU YOURSELF recall a life where you were hanging out with the angels - so essentially it's just you calling on some old friends and teachers for help. And to be clear, the density and compression aspect of this particular (reality we live in) realm ALONE likens it unto hell - and the inclination for people to harm others (whether because they themselves are wounded, ignorant, scared, or just wanting to exert their own power) sort of just clinches the fact in SO many respects.
But LBRH is used Pagan Gods like Isis, Apophis and Osiris, and in the Upper LBRH the form and mantra of Egyptian pagan Gods is adopted. In the Bible it says that there is only one God
Hi Denis, interesting subject to cover. A few thoughts, first, the question is based upon the religious version of Hell and would therefore include Heaven. So one of the issues to discuss is the belief in the present version of the scriptures. We have no idea what has been left out of the religious books, by the people in power, in order to control the masses before main stream media was introduced. I’m more of the multi dimensional, vibrational, sort of life after death. Your “location” when your physical body dies, is dependant upon the vibration of your spirit/soul. If you do good deeds, which would include good magick, for others, your vibration will be higher and therefore, you will “achieve entry” to higher vibrating realms. In contrast, if your magick is solely for personal gain, causes hurt to others in some way, or focused only on the ego and not for the benefit of others, then you vibrate at a lower frequency and are then only able to access those levels or dimensions that correspondence with your vibration. So the answer depends upon the motivation for your magick, do it for the benefit of others, good outcome, do it to hurt others, not good
I used to wonder this because I was raised a Pentecostal and felt so guilty about being interested in stuff that was forbidden like magic, the occult, other religions, etc. But I don't feel guilty anymore, I have found a little bit of the truth and know I'm doing what's right. Also the Orthodox version of Christianity is more limited and rigid. So if you haven't already i recommend reading about the "Gnostics" You will find what the different groups that fall under that label had a lot of interesting ideas
That was a fantastic bible verse. Good work. I don't necessarily think all people who work with demons are in a world of pain or problems but it depends how you approach said spirits and whether you do what you need to for self protection, also, be respectful of the spirits.
The funny thing is "magic" and "spells" and "prayer" are all one in the same thing. It's just that one uses circles and symbols for protection as opposed to the word of God. One uses tools for amplification as opposed to numbers of people for amplification. When you pray, you are indeed casting a spell. You are taking your intention and putting it out into the universe with the hope that it will manifest into a miracle of God. The same can be said of spell work. If you remove the dogma then it is all the same thing.
I just feel people that use fear to preach is just to keep people as their salary. You don’t tell your bread and butter it’s their right to research the truth. When they say search the scriptures. They literally tell you read the Bible only . The more I read the more questions I had then I had to go find out who wrote the Bible and the discovery is astounding. Now I like magic these days maybe I will evolve again but knowing is very important to me.
Sola Scriptura is complicated. I believe God speaks through other books beside those of the Bible. The Holy Spirit is ever-present. It can be felt when viewing the great christians artworks such as Bernini's 'Ecstasy of St. Theresa," and Michelangelo's own Pieta.
Hell is where we are now. Jesus said it in the gnostic book of Philip. We are climbing ...or ascending out of hell. King Solomon practiced various forms of Magicka.
I followed the Right Hand Path or similar to that, through the devoted and dedicated path that the SDA prescribe to. It led me to find perfect oneness with the Divine. Through my experience I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia, and my walk came to an end. I still have that peace that I was given, even though the medication puts the power on hold. Then years later, on point of prophecy, I was given a massive download as the medicine vaned. There I learned about the multiverse and how the beginning of the universe occurred. I did not see it, but the thoughts came to me explaining how the universe and multiverse is connected. I focused on the love we are supposed to have for one another, and saw then that the path of Christ and Yahweh, were both a path of destruction. Later I learned that Jesus and Christ are two different people. The gospels conflate the two and brings stories of the true Jesus and attaches it to Christ. Jesus said himself that they were not to call him Christ. Christ was a perfectionist, he was good but he was a fanatical person that cannot handle any deviation from his character. It is a misguided concept and approach to how life functions, we do not need to be just like him in order to live in peace and harmony, we only need to apply the tenets of how to live our life. We can be either Chaotic good or Lawful evil, and if we hold to these alignments, we can live in perfect harmony. It is only when Chaos is mixed with Evil and when Law and Order is mixed with Good, that we get disharmony. It was when I learned that it was Barabbas and not Christ that died on the cross that more of the picture began to complete itself. If the Scapegoat died on the Cross, and the Lords Goat was led into the wilderness, and later died the way the scapegoat should have died, then the plan of redemption failed. Who then is Barabbas? In myth it was the most beautiful brother that was killed by Zeus and Poseidon and sent into the underworld, or Earth - Hades. He has many names, such as Baldr from norse myth, Anu from Mesapotanian myth, but the point is, Christianity is based on the wrong pillar, the death of Christ. So it ultimately fails. Not to say that there is no power in Christianity, there is, but it only comes when we connect to JESUS, not the Christ. If we do that, then we receive what is called the Righteousness of Christ and are safe from all harm that the two gods of the Bible can ever inflict on anyone. This power is real, it is very powerful, but it is chaotic. The Power of a black hole. Unless balance is found, if this power is given free reign it will consume all light. This is why I look to walk the Left Hand Path, to harness the power of the White Hole, to add light instead of absorbing it. It should be said also, that absorbing LIGHT, makes you good. And it had to be done in order to turn around and be able to heal the world by giving out the light that you have absorbed. And this was how Jesus, the true Jesus was able to heal others. Or so I believe. :) So first, Walk the Right Hand path until you become one with Divinity, then the Left Path so you can give off that Light in form of Healing to the sick and poor. Combined you have the power of LIFE and DEATH, or Chaos and Order. All tings die, it is the natural order of things. Chaos Lives forever, Order dies. It is the Speed of Chaos or Darkness that we measured and not the speed of light, for Light is a constant 0 speed, darkness moves very fast. Anyway, enough rambling from a madman. :)
@@ronnyandersen6733 Surely Jesus is a metaphor or symbol for something rather than a person we connect with? Or is it not that simple but both in a way?
@@mikuspalmis Everyone can connect with their alter ego, the higher self in the mirrored reality. This is very difficult to do, as it is a transfer of energy. It is still us but there is a switch in perception. Each being that exists are also unique. Jesus is the direct expression of the Source in our world. He is also a symbol for the alter ego, since he is the Source expressed in individuals. Thus everyone can connect with him, and the one they connect with is unique to themselves, for it is themselves. It is like One becoming Many, although he also have a direct manifestation as well. Normal Christianity states that we connect to the Spirit of Jesus, we then die and he remains. Thus it is he who lives in us and enables us to move about. In a sense we become Jesus, or an extension of him. It is the Non Dual that becomes Dual. So everyone can become like him, and he also have someone that is him in a more direct way. Exactly how this is I have not yet figured out, but I lean towards the individuality and uniqueness of beings or souls. We can get the character of Jesus and become part of him, as we are his children, all of us, regardless of faith. It is when we speak of Christ that things get somewhat confused, as Jesus and Christ are two different people. It is important that we connect to the right principle: I connected with Love, and thus had the switch with my alter ego. That is how I understand it. My entire worldview changed over night, it just took a little time for it to manifest due to medication. :)
Your channel has cleared alot of things for me thank you for video. I feel like my pursuit of knowledge and truth has come full swing. Everything seems much clearer now. Thank you.
As one who doesn't believe in Hell and used to be a Satanist, I think that the ideas you put forth here are wise and beautiful. Jesus was quite a wise man, he has my honor. Being in a religion is one thing, living by it is another entirely. I don't consider myself Christian but the more I learn about that faith, the more I'm amazed how the church actually have such a poor understanding of the Bible. Unfortunately this is common not just is Christianity, but in all the most followed faiths. Even some Pagan religions suffer from this. Being comfortable I think is a great emphasis that needs to be taken into consideration. You shouldn't work with energies and entities that you aren't comfortable with, and you shouldn't tell others they are wrong for not associating with them. This goes for both spiritual entities and people, as I've learned having attended churches. There are churches that are rather welcoming and churches that reek of dishonesty, and many in-between.
Hel lo om from sweden and Norse paganism was my introduction to spiritual experience. Hel in Norse mythology is the goddess of the underworld or afterlife Hel is also what we call the afterlife What’s interesting about this is that today we use the word Hel in our everyday language and it means WHOLE and Holy in Swedish is Helig. So one could put one and two together and come to the conclusion that when we die we “become”(as if we weren’t already) one you God again, become whole, our perspectives expands again and we come back to the ultimate reality. Hel means whole. Helig means holy. Hela means heal.
Gospel of Thomas #102 I think Jesus said it best when he said... "Damn the Pharisees! They are like a dog sleeping in the cattle manger: the dog neither eats nor [lets] the cattle eat."
Personally I find this topic asked frequently in my mind. And the answer I've come up with is am I doing magick for my desires or for God? Sometimes they coerce but I'm not talking about coerce moments. I always try to do magick with Yeshua's purpose in mind. For I feel when I do magick solely for myself is when magick feels like an evil in my life than a good. I find working with demons not all that worth it personally, considering how vocal angels are with me, though that is just me, I am not you. Solomon worked heavy with demons and didn't lose favor with God until he decided (or you could argue charmed) to do a ceremony for another deity. Which if you plan on being Christian and using magick I would keep that in mind. Chances are other deity's will talk to you, which I've personally never had a problem with, at times it can be quite enlightening, though the temptation to worship them is quite strong. Let us not forget the Christian God is a jealous one. When it comes to churches, I personally don't go to church, I find most churches to be quite corrupt (I remember going to one of these corrupt churches and when I was in my car afterward I couldn't stop crying for how much they have corrupted the word of God). Personally my interpretation is to find a group of friends with pure good intentions toward you that can meet at a somewhat regular basis to have higher level conversations and to keep countability of each other so that they may not tread into evil purposes. This group of friends must be people you rely on absolutely, for they are your church. Please choose wisely. And lastly never forget Love. Amen.
What's being warned against isn't necessarily "excess" of wealth, but rather, focus on wealth as an object of living. A king is entitled to the riches of his kingdom; as the head of the imperial/feudal hierarchy, naturally he gets to command its economy and reap its benefits, just as the lord has the right to command his subjects. If we say otherwise we damage the principles of authority and hierarchy that work on both the earthly and heavenly realm. A king who rejects God in favor of wealth is obviously evil, but one can have wealth whilst still embracing God foremost. A good analogy to help people understand why this is the case might be Prince Siddhartha, the first Buddha. He was from a noble family and had all the wealth he could possibly need, yet it wasn't an impediment during his path to enlightenment. He even states how his noble birth allowed him to avoid the privations and vicissitudes of work, better enabling his awakening. Many ascetics and magicians were nobles -- Brahmin (priests) in India were at the top of the caste hierarchy and it was held that they ought not to work strenuous jobs. Many of them were wealthy. In fact, if you go back earlier, Brahmin and Kshatriya (kingly/warrior caste) were effectively rolled into one. Even today, you can see wealth imbalances between the historical Brahmins and Shudra. This is a normal part of the cosmic order and isn't a problem. However, in the Judeo-Christian tradition, the concept/personification of Mammon is relevant. Mammon is wealth-for-itself, greed, avarice, materialism, all rolled into one. This is what is really evil, not merely holding wealth, because it directs one's gaze toward contingent and temporary things rather than the eternity and transcendence of God. Anything that causes this inversion is evil, such as ignorance (avidya,) attachment, and so on. To put it in a nutshell, the goal of life is like the symbol of Sagittarius, the archer who shoots an arrow up into the air: To escape the cycle of generation and corruption and embrace the transcendent. Something to point out here that I think was mistaken in the video is the idea that absence of wealth is itself evil; I would advance an opposing view on the grounds that differentiation of people is part of the natural order, and various pathways exist for them to attain a level of transcendent already that do not require wealth. This is the role of exoteric religions, which are open and available to all people and which often perform charitable work. Not everyone is cut out for high magick and the esoteric, it's by its very definition hidden and accessible only to qualified people. People's positions in society are not an accident, it's informed by Karma, the influence of the stars, and a bunch of other factors. We also don't have equal spiritual faculties nor even bodily faculties (differences in intelligence and inhibition for one.) The universe is an unfair place, according to the principles of differentiation and hierarchy, so there's nothing really evil about people existing in some lower place in the material hierarchy. Even in the case where a noble soul is born among the poor there are still possibilities when one lacks money (this does happen, Siddhartha did not base qualification for his doctrine of awakening on heredity, but instead on varna, that is, one's individual qualifications, which are not necessarily hereditary.) One can realize a complete life of detachment without money, it's a matter of inner strength, will, and overcoming. It would be harder, but still possible, to overcome the challenges of poverty on a path to awakening. Then there are other ascetic magickal rituals, for example, those expounded by the UR group as what they call "solar magick." A similar idea can be found in the Mithraic tradition. The UR group utilizes the symbols of alchemy to transmute the inner self, allowing it to gain magickal faculties and receive higher initiations. These rituals (exempting the ceremonial ones, which are not necessary) do not require any money to accomplish, and even the ones that do require materials could be done without them with good results. The books themselves are attainable for people of modest income (Introduction to Magic vol. 1 - 3) and of course there are means to acquire them on the internet for those with even more modest income, not that I recommend doing so. The possibility of using low magic as an ascetic tool (ascetic as the Buddhists define it, whatever aids you in practice,) is interesting but dangerous. Its essential direction is to take higher energies and direct them downward/horizontally, which is in essence profanity. It is truly evil, but one could perhaps balance it if it were part of an ultimate upward action. I think it's worth avoiding for the simple reason that what's occurring on the metaphysical/intellectual plane is essentially evil when one operates low magic. Intellectuality knows no relativity, so an evil action is fundamentally still evil. It is as evil to practice low magic as it is for the government to profiteer in war.
Always enjoy hearing your take on things, and maybe im speaking out of ignorance but my reservations from becoming a creator was the invocation of demons, blood ritual sacrifice which i wrongly assumed that all the ethereal things used in workings were derived from pacts of fallen entities. Thanks for helping to demystify the taboo for me
The love of money is the root of all evil. I think money makes you more of what you are. If one has always been generous and then one inherits a large sum of money then I think it’ll make one more generous. Conversely if one is selfish and all about themselves then money will make one more so. Thankfully this video is not about another that I suddenly have to get. Clearly more money, for me, would be spent on all the books you have reviewed .
Respectfully, I disagree. The lack of money is more powerful. The scarcity and poverty mindset is what leads the weakest of us to fall from inherent grace.
Regarding Heaven & Hell being created by Dante, I believe in Zoroastrianism (the first monotheistic religion) immortal souls that balance in favour of good over evil go to what Zarathustra referred to simply as the "best existence" - or heaven - and those immortal souls that balance in favour of evil go to the "worst existence" - or hell, and remain there until the end of time.
Interesting perspective. I'm outside the Abrahamic tradition, but it's a take on it that I think is conducive to self-development more than traditional Christianity certainly. I wonder though how your theory would account for sociopaths - people who cause harm to others yet seem to feel no internal distress over doing such?
I am not a Christian, but I have no problem with anyone based solely on the faith that they choose. I honestly believe that heaven and hell are very personal things. The concept is as old as all religions. Hell for me would be working 7 days a week with no opportunity to sleep until I wake up at least one day a week. Heaven for me is having the opportunity to have free time to spend with my beautiful wife and my son. I would go through any hell to be with my Heaven.
This is a very deep concept that no one else has ever put into words. I've always known that heaven and hell has been your personal consciousness Which could never die. imagine being stuck in a dreaming nightmare for Eternity although you cannot physically be hurt, the mind Convinces us that it's real. Maybe this is why plant medicines have positive and negative effects on the psyche. The experience can lead to stress and anxiety or pleasure and Bliss but it all depends on you. Foolish fish could you recommend a book on this subject
actually if you really understand 'karma' even being a 'good person' can bring you 'bad experiences' because it is cause or effect. and i would say 'calibration' (you calibrate to people / events, and people calibrate to you.
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Dude I feel like crying. I am 30 years old, lifelong christian, and feeling finally like another believer is sharing how I feel. Thank you for this video. It's helpful for me for sure.
Check out John St Julien, he is a christian and white magician (altho he would never call himself that). He runs a childrens home in Tanzania and has manifested alot of good things
You're not a Christian if you don't trust God and resort to spirits that are dead (aka not in heaven) or evil (demons). The quotes used in this video from the bible are completely taken out of context. Terrible (and probably deliberate) exegesis.
@@ricardodiazdeleon134 is using your friend for help or doctor not trusting in God? Also how & why is using angels & demons bad
@@ricardodiazdeleon134I believe in God, yet I still listen to weather reports and I take the advice of my doctor.
Almost everyone probably practices magic regularly. It's just that most are unaware they are stuck in a long term mass societal spell that's not of their own making. Pawns in the game.
Yes, if you make a wish and blow out birthday candles....OOPS
You're doing magick 😆
Definitely, but that's a sort of minor magic that's approved of and sanctioned by society. I wonder if anyone ever had any of those wishes come true. I pretty much gave up on that when I realized Santa and the Easter bunny were fake. A really long time ago.
The most obvious hidden spells are hiding in plain sight, right in the language. Hell-O; used billions of times daily. There's tons more where that came from. Far more underhanded. Mass mind control works.
But perception is everything. Heaven and hell are always available.
I do love learning about the spells right in our language. I had not ever thought about it before but there are many.
Spell-ing
@@TheAmethystSpirit excuse me but would you mind telling me where could I learn more about that? I don't even know what to search but I'm interested! (just a yt video would be more than enough!)
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Put this in the search bar....
etymology of english magic
Tons of videos come up. I'm not sure I've seen any of them. I did notice Lifting the Veil in there a couple times and the 'Great Arcanum'. Those should be pretty good.
Hey, thanks so much for making this video. I am the daughter of a Southern Baptist preacher. I used to highly cling to the religion I was taught, until I moved halfway across the world to live on my own. That opened me up to question what I'd been taught, but I was still afraid to do so, lest I go to hell. It took 1.5 yrs of therapy before I could even express doubt about my religious beliefs, and the first time I uttered it aloud, my throat clamped down and began spasming. My therapist had to run get me water and it took 20 mins for me to be able to speak again. That's how engrained it was.
But after that, I began to explore. The Christian God never responded to me. But with regular meditation, it didn't take long for something else to begin responding to me. To the point it was undeniable. Less than a year later, my energetic awareness popped off spontaneously and allll the entities came to say sup.
But I still struggled with fear because I'd been taught every entity free roaming the earth was a demon. And I for sure encountered some demons, but also many good and helpful entities.
Anyway, point is I've been energetically aware for 2 years but only started practicing the lbrp 3 weeks ago. Despite how profoundly better I felt, the symbolism and occult aspect would cause my ego to slip in words like "you're gonna go to hell for this. You're probably summoning demons rn. They're gonna trick you and drag you to hell."
But your video has helped. Most people who practice Magick/occult dislike Christians. It's nice to hear a perspective from someone who... Doesn't.
Keep going!
how could you tell what was a demon?
Damn, Jesus was kind of a badass. I guess that's what Nietzsche meant when he said "there was only one Christian, he died on the cross."
That was my conclusion when I read the 4 gospels and I was like "wait... this ain't the Jesus I've been told about!" XD
I think he may have been one badass magician and they found his powers to be unsettling hence the cross. It's possible
@@wigsy9386 he was killed not for magick all though many times the Pharisees compared him to a devil. They said something like “only devils can tell devils what to do and they listen “ but Jesus was killed for saying he was the son of god which means he was saying he and god were one and the same.
@@reyskully7778 So in ways he was seen as the demiurge, only the demiurge would feel that his evil would be good and only seen as evil to those that don't understand him. It's an interesting subject and thought process for me.
@@wigsy9386 Jesus in my opinion is so much more than a man, the body everyone equated to as Jesus was just his flesh and he identify with his flesh in the same way if u burned ur tee shirt.. u wouldn’t think by burning ur shirt that I was harming u. Jesus identified himself with the source and was killed for it and he was killed by the people who claimed to be in contact with the source… people were routinely kept out of the temple because of fleshly issues and the contents of their hearts were ignored. All they did was kill the flesh of Jesus and in so he never truly died. I believe this is the meaning of the idea that Jesus resurrected. Even the Bible never explained what the disciples saw when Jesus came to them but he didn’t let them touch him because I believe he had no form to touch but the disciples identified the flesh of Jesus with the source itself so when the source began to interact with them they saw it as Jesus himself… it’s a beautiful topic to discuss and I’d love to discuss it more with others if they wish to as well 💪💪
I believe that magick, at it's most basic level, is neutral. It is what each practitioner does with it in intent and action that determines the type of results wielded from it and the path that you go down.
For me personally, hell is simply the unacknowledged path of the firestarter. If you throw enough matches around (war, looking down on others, curses, greed, hatred, gossip, etc...), eventually you end up setting yourself on fire. I think the golden rule was actually a veiled warning. "Do unto others as you would like them to do unto you" could have ended with "...or you end up in a hell of your own creation".
Oddly enough, the more that I tuned into what Jesus said, the less the church resonated with me. So I chose to follow the teachings of Jesus and left the church.
Well said.
@@janndoe3718 Was thinking the same!
What the heck is a firestarter? I think someones been listening to a bit too much Prodigy lately XD
Good insight, I thought that too. But I'm also universalist and follow Christ. 🙂 Was looking up Firestarter, interesting... 🦀
Sure you do. And I guess you particularly follow His teaching about not practicing the magic arts (Revelation 22:15), which if you do, Jesus warns, will result in eternal damnation.
I'm loving your teaching! I've served as a Christian pastor for a little more than 8 years now-everything you say in this video accords with my understanding of the faith. Great job! I look forward to learning more from you. Thanks! :)
Are you still practicing Christianity? And why?
I wonder how many pastors understand Christianity in this light and say nothing directly due to the dark age ideals most common Christians hold.
Sir, are you a Freemason?
@@mistawess Practicing Jesus' way? Yes, as I understand it. My religious study and practice enrich my life and, by nearly all reports, the lives of those with whom I share community. However, I'm exploring spiritual terrain well beyond the boundaries of what many other Christians would deem acceptable. James Hollis is a Jungian Psychologist who talks about the psychic strength necessary to hold in creative tension ambiguity, ambivalence, and anxiety. Most Christians and traditional religionists of all stripes value religion precisely because it relieves them of these things. I believe Jesus' living faith, insight, inspiration, and power had their source in such incomprehensible Mystery. I know not her name. I know not that she is my mother or what that means. I know not that this is her breast, and from it, comes milk, or that this is my mouth and with it, I suckle, or the significance of any of that. I do not know how or why this contact and interaction between these various objects satisfies or drives me to such satisfaction. I only give myself to the impulse to cry, the impulse to latch on, the impulse to suck. And miracle of miracles, my soul is deeply nourished, and I thrive. I rarely meet another person, especially among more traditional Christians, who can find rest nursing at God's breast in infantile silence and peace. Most demand answers. Most demand a clear distinction of categories. Most demand clear direction. Most demand assurance of absolute, unending pleasure or the total absence of pain as compensation for the insults, injuries, and injustices suffered in this life. I'm not most, and I feel that quite acutely. But I'm in love with the Mystery. I believe that Paraclete has yet to empty Her milk supply. And I'm still hungry and still quite small. I can't even speak a word of my Mother's language, though I've listened to Her voice all my life. I just babble with the rest of the babies. And cry when my belly feels less than full. "If we are 'out of our mind,' as some say, it is for God; if we are in our right mind, it is for you." ;)
@@reyskully7778 Being friends and colleagues with several other pastors, I assure you that if we are legion, I got separated from the group. But I also can attest that many pastors are presented information in school that they never talk about from the pulpit. Some of that is because they only learned it to get the grade. But it didn't accord with the framework they developed as younger people, so they discarded it immediately. For others, it takes so much informational scaffolding for a layperson to even glimpse some of this stuff that preachers can teach on it effectively in 20 minutes once a week and still satisfy the preaching expectations of the general churchgoing. Yeah, honestly, you said it quite nicely: "...due to the dark age ideals most common Christians hold." Helping Christians unlearn those "dark age ideals" is more effectively done individually, slowly, over many conversations, over a long period of time. And even them, that embedded Sunday school theology has ridiculous staying power.
I love this so much. I have been terrified but it's like the universe is shoving me toward magic. I appreciate you making a video that really helps me understand. Thank you 😊
Same. I stopped looking into it completely at one point. But time and time again I find myself randomly getting back into it.
I feel the same way
Cheers to fellow introverts that seek the spirit of the law over the letter and the capacity of discernment to know when they are aligned. The wrap up was the best, "Be kind to others, they may not have had the privilege of an indoctrination free life."
That is awesome.
Hell Is Empty, and all the Devils are here! - William Shakespeare said it best!
Wow!! I absolutely love this! I’m a Christian I also love Magic and focusing on an enchanting lifestyle. Your channel is a wonderful blessing to me. Thank you. I’ve enjoyed your insight so much.
Just FYI, I'm reading "Soul Journeys" by Daniel L. Prechtel et al. and as a magick-loving Christian, you might like it too :) about what Christianity and Shamanism can learn from each other.
I am a philosopher, an ocultist and I am a Christian by my True self and my background and I can tell you than I rarely seen such a wise explanation about the spiritual realms of the world.
You are truly a wise person.
I love you ❤️ and appreciate you a lot for your enlightenment on the true spiritual path.
Only the TRUE will make us free in spirit!
Thanks Foolish Fish for everything you have done and continue to do . This video has liberated me from fear of heaven and he'll. Thanks a great deal
This is a phenomenal example of what Christianity could be in the world
If anyone wants to truly understand the astral where you go after you die (temporarily) then look to the theosophists and their explanation of death and the afterlife if your are struggling with the warped christian views. You go to whatever level you are on earth and shed your patterns, some that you enjoy (like ignorance, selfish tendencies, judgmental behaviours, controlling behaviors ect) they speak of seven levels of the astral (which even though spoken as layers, are just a way for people to categorize and conceptualize the astral, there really are not divisions). The lowest two of the seven layers are where major drug addictions are shed, hurtful or hateful tendencies are shed, the lowest level is where the most devious tendencies like the addiction to murder and rapist type mental and emotional patterns are shed. The middle is what you would consider purgatory if you were catholic, just lile boring mundane on earth where you believe you are still doing what you did on earth, the highest two levels are good and amazing. At the top level you basically do whatever you want to do, go around helping others and being full of love and joy and beauty. After all these are shed (when you are ready to let go of all those things) you go through a second death and move up to a realm of learning in preparation for the next lifetime, learning everything that you choose. You have a soul family there that you incarnate with and also masters that don't incarnate anymore (mostly) that are helping you learn how to become like them and learn the lessons of earth and love. Then you move up to the highest realm called deva chan (which is pure spirit) where you can choose to reincarnate to finish lessons and choose your next birth, or if you have let go of all of your desire to incarnate, you can stay in that type of blissful state. Most people end up in the middle astral or higher after death. Some people incarnate as soon as two days after death and others many years... On average usually 87 years between births and can be as long as 1200 years, or never if that is what you choose. Just some solace for people that are as indoctrinated as I was in their adolescence. You only go to where you are at in this life because you experience what you believe and most people have no idea that they are dead after they leave here. Like a dream where you experience what you believe. That is the astral. Learn advanced astral projection and just stay in your room or visit a friend and gradually move to the outer reaches so that you know how to navigate the astral. The theosophists say to try an picture and visualize a diety you trust often like jesus, or krishna, mother mary, madonna, or an angel you trust or guru that has died and if you do it enough, saying come get me when I die, then your soul family or guides (masters) can appear in that form to make you feel safe enough to lead you out of "your own mental projections".... Hope that helps
Love this!
This is also in line with what the Early Hindu Vedic texts said about the afterlife, The Vedas are full of wonderful information, and are some of if not the oldest books written on spiritual revelation. The only thing i'd like to say about your wonderful explanation, is "2 days" in the astral could be 100 millennia here on earth, since technically time is virtually non existent or at the very least much slower the higher up you go, and we don't necessarily reincarnate on a linear earth time line, that is, we can reincarnate in any time period that would best serve the lessons we must learn or how we will serve the earth etc. But of course that is just what I've gleaned in my own research. Great explanation, peace and love brother!
@@Space_Ghost_Hunter Have a look at the book 'The Light Of Egypt' by Thomas H Burgoyne ✨
Whoa! This is DEEP! I hope this is true. 🤗Let me get to researching!
@Brandon Question….Are you describing each Sefirot when you speak of each level where you shed your traits after death? With that being said, is Malkuth the lower where you shed addiction and murder, then move up the Tree of Life from there?
the Bible is FULL OF MAGIC 🪄 and I love it 🖤🤍🙏🏽
High Priests practiced “the craft” and divination and were ordained to do so.
Heaven/Hell is a mindset and a projection of ones inner state
Exactly Psalms is the most powerful spellbook ever written😂
You are a blessing for those of us just dipping our toes into the mystic arts. And I'm sure for the adept practioners as well. Please keep up these insightful and honest videos. You're approach is more genuine than anyone else on the sight.
Inside Singularity - Hadit - Yin - Pentagram - Microcosm
Outside Expansion - Nuit - Yang - Hexagram - Macrocosm
Or as James Maynard Keenan put it - Spiral Out! Keep Going!
Yes! Exactly 🍳
Spiral out a la Hegel!!! Spin baby! SPIN! 😜
Oh how I appreciate a Tool reference. XX
It seems that some people are confused by the word 'magic,' and what it means. Some people, even some pagans, think that all magic is witchcraft and therefore forbidden by the Bible. That is, they conflate magic with witchcraft. However, the Bible does not condemn all magic. It condemns the misuse of magic, consorting with false gods or idols, consulting the dead, and consorting with demons or evil spirits.
Communication with angels is common in the Old Testament. Abraham and Lot were visited by angels. Gideon was visited by an angel. Jacob was met by angels in Gen. 32:1-2, and wrestled with an angel in Gen. 32:24-30. Angels were assigned to protect and guide Israel through the wilderness in Ex. 14:19, 23:20-23. An angel appeared to Joshua.
In the New Testament an angel appeared to Mary, and to Zacharias. Angels appeared to shepherds at the birth of Jesus. An angel strengthened Jesus in the garden of Gethsemane.
Divination was practiced by high profile biblical characters. Joseph has a silver cup used for divination in Gen. 44:2, 5, and admits to divination in Gen. 44:15. The Urim and Thummim were used for divining God's will in Num. 27:21, 1 Sam. 28:6. The Urim and Thummim were placed in the ephod of the high priest in Ex. 28:4, 6, 28, 30. Which is used by David to divine God's will in 1 Sam. 23:2, 4, 6, 9-12, 30:7-8. Lots were also used to divine God's will. Prov. 16:33, 18:18, Lev. 16:8, Josh. 18:6-10, 1 Sam. 14:41-42, Acts 1:26. Gideon used a fleece to divine God's will in Judges 6:36-40. But, Gideon made an ephod that became a snare unto him and his house in Judges 8:27. Probably because it wasn't in the tabernacle and being worn by a priest, but was in Ophrah where Gideon had built an altar. Perhaps similar to Micah in Judges 17:5-13, and 18:14-31. They went astray in worshipping other gods.
Jacob used magic in Gen. 30:37-43, as he was instructed by an angel of God in a dream, Gen. 31:9-13. Moses was instructed to use magic in Exodus 4:2-9. Which he did in Ex. 7:8-12, 15-21, 8:1-6, 16-17, 20-24: 9:3-6, 8-10, 22-25: 10:12-15, 21-22. In Ezekiel 4:1-17, 5:1-4, Ezekiel is instructed in sympathetic magic. In Jeremiah 27:2, Jeremiah is instructed to wear a yoke as a sign or form of sympathetic magic, which is broken by Hananiah in Jer. 28:10, also as sympathetic magic in conflict with Jeremiah, and which results in Hananiah's death in Jer. 28:15-17. While these can be argued to merely be metaphorical portrayals of prophecy, the principle of a sympathetic connection between the symbol and the reality is still there and is enacted with real world consequences for rebellion and rejection of the message. God's magicians, miracle workers, etc., can be resisted and rejected, imprisoned and executed, but there are still consequences.
Jesus turned water into wine; multiplied fish and loaves of bread; walked on water; calmed storms; increased Peter's catch of fish; manifested money from a fish's mouth; healed people; cast out demons; raised the dead; and in John 14:12, he said, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." Did Jesus feed the whole world? No. Did Jesus heal everyone? No. Matt. 13:57-58, "And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country, and in his own house. And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief." Psalm 78:41, "Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One."
Thank you! This is a great list! 😊🙏
@@FoolishFishBooks. I forgot one. When God told Moses to make a brazen serpent on a pole so that anyone who had been bitten by a venomous snake could be healed by simply looking at the brazen serpent.
May God bless you and shine light on your path. 🙏
But aren't demons and evil spirits just whatever pagan deities christians don't like despite the characteristics of that deity?
@@crater35. No. Demons and evil spirits are the ghosts of the Nephilim and Rephaim, which are separate from fallen angels. Many pagan gods were Nephilim or Rephaim, but not all Nephilim/Rephaim were pagan gods. For instance, Josephus claimed that the Titans, and the gods of the Greeks and Romans were from the same giants that were called Nephilim and Rephaim in the scriptures. They were called Nephilim before the flood, and Rephaim, Anakim, Emim, Horim, and Avim after the flood. See Deut. 2:10-23, and Num. 13:33. However the two words 'Rephaim,' and 'Nephilim,' are often translated as 'giants.' In Deut. 3:11, it says that king Og of Bashan was all that remained of the remant of giants (rephaim). In Isaiah 26:13-14, it talks about the hebrews having had other "lords" over them, "O Lord our God, other lords beside thee have had dominion over us: but by thee only will we make mention of thy name." In the next verse it says, "They are dead ('muwth'), they shall not live; they are deceased ('rephaim'), they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish."
The word 'rephaim' is translated as 'the dead,' 'dead ones,' or in some translations as 'shades,' i.e. ghosts, in scripture after the death of king David because it is most often used in the context of hell, but not in the context of the spirits of human beings in Abraham's bosom. Before the death of king David the word 'rephaim,' is usually translated as 'giants.' This is because they had been exterminated by the time that David died. Many people read the passages about God telling the Hebrews to exterminate people groups and accuse God of being a psychopath, but the tribes that were targeted were the giant clans, the offspring and descendants of the mating between fallen angels and human women. Isaiah 14:21, speaks about Lucifer, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" And, in verse 21 it says, "Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities."
In Isaiah 14:19, it says, "But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet." In this verse, the word translated as 'abominable branch,' is 'neser,' and is a loan word from Egyptian that means 'dead god,' a deified dead king, like the mummified pharaohs of Egypt. However, because of the lack of vowels in the oldest Hebrew texts, it is possible that the word is the Hebrew word 'nasar,' which means 'watcher,' and refers to the angelic beings spoken of in Daniel. Yet, Daniel is written in Aramaic and the word translated as 'watcher,' in Daniel is 'ir.' Still, there is one place where the word 'watcher,' is translated from the Hebrew 'nasar,' and refers to the same angelic beings, and that is Jeremiah 4:16, "Make ye mention to the nations; behold, publish against Jerusalem, that watchers (nasar) come from a far country, and give out their voice against the cities of Judah." The language here is similar to that of Dan. 4:17, "This matter is by decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones..." As well as Isaiah 13:5, "They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the Lord, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land." Consequently, it is my opinion that the "watchers," in Jer. 4:16, are angelic beings like those in Daniel 4, since they are decreeing or crying out judgment, and come from a "far country," akin to that in Isaiah 13:5.
Nevertheless, the point is that the fallen ones, the fallen angels, were considered pagan gods in the Bible, while their mortal giant children were also considered to be gods to some people groups, but there is a theological difference. According to Deut. 32:8, God assigned angels to govern the nations. "When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the angels of God." (Septuagint translation). And, in Psalm 82:1, it says, "God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods." Verse 6, "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the Most High." Verse 7, "But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes."
So, from the biblical perspective only angels were referred to as "gods." And, only the disembodied spirits, the ghosts of the dead Rephaim were considered demons. However, if some pagans had Rephaim as their god or gods, they wouldn't be demons until they died and their spirit was left to wander the earth. The Rephaim have no resurrection, "they shall not rise." So, while it is probably true that some pagan gods were demons/spirits of the Rephaim, it is also true that some were mortal Rephaim with long life spans that only became demons after they died. But, they wouldn't have been gods according to the biblical paradigm. Only the angels that God assigned to the different nations were considered "gods." Plus, there was idolatry which is merely worshipping some physical object, statue, or symbol that has no actual spirit, as if it has supernatural power. Idols might be dedicated to demons, and used to channel demons, but without that connection they are just dead objects. Some might refer to it as animism. Hence, not all pagan gods would have been considered demons or evil spirits. But some would have been if they met the right qualifications.
Lastly, since your question assumes a non-biblical paradigm where any pagan god is demonized simply because it is pagan, the question over-simplifies the issue and mischaracterizes the biblical paradigm. I'm not trying to offend you: you probably don't know any other perspective. I am just pointing out that your question has assumptions that don't allow a yes response even if it has happened that way in some instances since it is not the paradigm that the judeo-christian traditions are rooted in. Likes or dislikes, and the characteristics of the deity, have nothing to do with why a pagan god might be considered a demon. And, it is that part of your question that I give a definite, "No," to, even if it is the case that some pagan gods were demons/spirits of the dead Rephaim. That is, the reason why a pagan god might be considered a demon, is not because of the reason you asked about.
Further, if God assigned angels to be "gods," over the different nations then those pagan gods that remained loyal and obedient to Yahweh would not have been considered evil spirits, let alone rephaim/demons. There are instances of God assigning angels to guide and guard Israel, as well as punish Israel. And, instances of God indicating that there were other nations and people that were under his authority and enjoyed his favor, or suffered his judgment, and that he could use for his purposes. And, in the book of Daniel there is an account of the angel Michael, the "prince" (prinicipality) of Israel contending with the angelic prince of Greece. After the coming of Jesus, that arrangement of there being different angelic princes or gods over the different nations changed though.
To elaborate further I would need to refer to texts that are considered apocryphal, so I will leave it here unless you have more questions.
Wow, I wish I could save a comment! Great biblical summary!
As a Christian , i still believe picking one of the Abrahamic Religions if you want to avoid "hell" and go to "heaven". Imo i think it lays out the best guidelines/rules/laws for humanity to achieve this. I understand why some people do not like them. The reason why i say this is that with Magick it can be tricky to fully understand or grasp what you are doing and personally i think the impact could be worse than what we believe. I understand there is spells and Magick for good such as healing and things of similar nature but do we really know where this power is coming from. Most people watching this vid, including myself believe that there is more that meets the eye in this world like engery, entities demons, angels and all of that stuff. I do believe in Magick in all it forms and the bible even speaks about it with king Solomon who conjured many demons. Personally i believe when looking for answers that are above our aura or engery field we can simply not comprehend it as we are not designed for such knowledge. At the end of the day it depends on if you believe that these holy books are from God or not.
Amazing video!
Loved the approach and insights, and couldn’t agree more.
As Lon Milo says...”It's All In Your Head ... You Just Have No Idea How Big Your Head Is”...keep the good work FF!
Gotta love Lon! It's the quote that made me decide I could trust him 😄♥️
Hell! what crazy dogma is this. Everyone knows our hearts are weighed against a feather, whilst a Doberman licks his lips.
Haha! 😅
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ma’ay you have a great day for this😂 i have a lot of gra’atitude for this comment
🤣😂😭💀The way I cackled while reading this post!!
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I'm converting to Catholicism and I respect you and your channel since I believe in Magick and I'm very fascinated by it and everything related to it: Carl Jung, Kabbalah and Alchemy.
I follow Christ's commandments and way of life because for me He (Besides being God incarnated) taught us the ultimate Magick: the Eternal Life!
Btw I'm not trying to convert anyone here, just showing my perspective
You're in good company then, catholicism is a very neatly packaged reimagining of paganism. The result of our transition from the age of the ram to the age of the fish.
@@rred8674 Yes! Most people use the argument of "coincidence" between various religions and prophecies from the world to say that one religion is just a copy of another one, but for me this is synchronicity. The fact that aristotelian and (neo)platonic views of transcendence and the nature of the soul is fascinating of how close they were to christian theology, and in the Indian philosophy there is the Advaita Vedanta, it is also close to the view of non dualism in christianity.
I am Catholic from birth and you will greatly enjoy the magic ritual that is the mass. 😊
I really want to make a reaction video to this but I will tell my experience in short here:
I grew up as a Jehovah's Witness and the stories they tell from encountering anything that might reek of demons that attracts demons and how they tortured those who came in contact.
The video addressed guilt for doing something bad but didn't seem to address the guilt I was feeling at the time: Guilt from seeking truth and feeling condemned for doing so and most of the time being torn apart from following the call from God inside me to come closer by seeking truth and the moral rules of the JW community.
I studied in that time NLP (near-linguistic programming) and Hypnosis. Wanting to help other people I used it to help people get rid of fears and phobias, learn new behaviours and unlearn behaviour that was no longer needed. Yes, I got in trouble because I was learning more about strange and seemingly forbidden things and second because me helping people was seen a bandage fix and not trusting in how God would soon fix everything.
I began to understand that the power that was told of in ancient scripture like the bible was mostly from people, prophets having direct contact and having conversations with angels. And that the rituals were the core and the theories around those experiences were build around it.
My understanding was that the more closest experience I could have with the divine the purer the message would be.
I began to study magick as a way to understand and achieve that.
While being fearful about books and other physical items about things that might reek of demons I started to learn about magick...I tested the waters with downloading PDF files from Crowleys books and began to read. I love all kinds of magick traditions. I started with high magick and chaos magick. (yes, I had night I could not sleep out of fear but I was convinced that truth can not hurt the truth seeker or more accurately that not knowing can hurt far more than knowing and gaining understanding is a divine act.)
I held on to Williams Blake view of the Divine and the divine in us and still do.
(I could tell much more but I made this comment already way too long.)
My parents divorced when I was 2. My mom studied with the JW's and wanted out. For whatever reason, she realized her only way to get TOTALLY out was to light up a cigarette after a meeting one day. She was promptly disfellowshipped. I've often wondered why she didn't just quit.
@@peacefuldaizy5717 any religious organisation tempts to create a strong ingroup feeling (and a strong fear for what is outside often too). it’s not only a religion you say goodbye but the longer you are in it the more relationships, people, people who many called you friend, people you come to see as a second family, you say goodbye. That is what hurt me the most when leaving: It felt like I was betraying people who came to see me as friends, best friends even. It took me so long to find a few people I could really connect with and when they connected with me ..after a while ..I announced I left. I left the door open for them to connect with me again..but they didn’t.
@@Healitall : This is true. We have several family members who are JW, and they basically shunned my mom because she was disfellowshipped. I never thought about if she lost any close friends when she was disfellowshipped, but I am now thinking she did.
I also grew up a jw, was atheist after that for a little while, then had a really weird and cool experience and believed more in a higher power than ever before. Spent years searching and trying to make sense of the Bible to no avail. Then a bunch synchronicitys started happening, and here I am, subscribed to this channel. Life's a trip, just gotta let go and see where it leads you I guess.
I grew up as a JW myself and so much of this resonates with my experience. Just want you to know that you are seen.
Since you mentioned Blake I think Isaiah’s statement “the voice of honest indignation is the voice of God” is worth mentioning here.
Blessed be, Brother.
My attraction to magick has been one of attempting to salve the hell that is my own mind. To learn to operate in a sick world with a sick mind.
Thank you for challenging the walls most people grow up surrounded by in religion. I only opened my mind two years ago and really started questioning what I was taught as a "baptist" Christian. I had a very lengthy conversation ( 8 hours long) with a norse pagan which blew the lid off my brain pan. I was astounded, and absolutely captivated. My journey for knowledge and spiritual truth began. It's been a lonely path thus far, mentally challenging as old stigmas rise up constantly and have to be overcome, but also liberating and comforting as well. Knowing now that magik is simply a tool, like a knife, or firearms, and the responsibility is on the person who wields it, gives me much comfort in the matter. Your videos have been and are instrumental in finding good material, jumping off points, and pushing the restraints on my mind. Thank you.
I always kinda liked Swedenborg's interpretation of his experiences when he explained that Heaven and Hell were states of mind.
Thanks
Thank you so much, @zentynt! That's very kind! 😄🙏
Amazing perspective. Especially because it's coming from someone who identifies as a Christian. Thank you for your time in putting this together
I'm from the old school of thought. """It is not what you do it is how you do it at whom you do that to..."""I tried to be respectful to everyone to me there is no heaven or hell it is the heaven or hell you have in your heart that determines how light your feather is when you pass on...
It does actually matter what you do. Some "acts" are essentially passive and constitute giving into desire/craving rather than reaffirming the active domination by one's soul. If you eat a lot of sugar because it's very pleasurable for you, you are allowing the active principle of your soul to be nullified, which will cause a lot of distress if you cannot overcome it before death. It will impede you from certain tests that await you.
You might think that you aren't distressed by eating sugar, but that would be utterly false, because craving in itself is a privation that prevents one from attaining spiritual enlightenment. One must learn how to dominate one's desires in some way so that one ceases to fall into the futile "fulfilment" of mere cycles. This might mean detatching yourself during pleasurable experiences, being mindful when you engage in experiences by opposing desire and then engaging in the act unpassionately, or it could mean meeting one's desires only in moderation. It's a lot more complicated than "do no harm," because the greatest harm you can ever do is to yourself and often its cause remains invisible if you aren't wise.
@@Thes4LT I'mma keep this 💯 with you. I'm a hell of a lot more than what this medallion that represents me is. Check out the video and go to the next level then maybe things WILL sweeten up for you too... Yeah I'm that person that others thought is last that has become first...
From what I’ve experienced (and this may be aligned with the orthodox Christian view) Hell is the same light of God:absolute Truth and Hell is the rejection of that absolute Truth. For us when we reject that Truth it feels like a burning flame but fir those who surrender to that Truth it’s a brilliant bright light that fills us with peace. So our perceptions and rejection or acceptance of the absolute Truth (Gods will and Gods law) are what generate that experience and allow us to exist at these various planes of consciousness. But that’s just my experience and perception at this stage . Departing from this plane out of sync with Truth seems like it will lead to an expansion of suffering and until we repent (turn our backs) to our misguided desires and desire what God desires we’re ultimately setting ourselves up for a painful existence
Foolish Fish really does have the best comments section for insightful discussions ❤
Damn, looks like I may be watching all the saturdays now...damn, much more fun videos that i expected! Nice approach to these sir. As for hell, i never believed in an afterlife hell, especially as most of the Jesuits and Basilian fathers in school either said there was no hell and that we all go to heaven -- to them this was without question a "medieval" aspect of the church left behind in practice and preaching if not in doctrine -- but then of course I explored dmt realms and found places that echoed the darker realms I've seen in spirit travelling. It struck me even if you spent what seemed like a day in some of these...places of consciousness...that would be far worse than any hell of which I've heard from preachers. But not even the most hellish of these hyperspaces pales in comparison to the hell you can enter in THIS world while alive. Thoughtful stuff, merci.
I'm not even half way through your video but whoa is this the part of TH-cam I've longed for
I've been going through a mental health breakdown mixed with other stuff and it helped crystalized quite a bit for me
Thank you
:) I'm so glad you're enjoying it! :)
Same here I’ve been struggling with mental health problems lately and I know that a loving god doesn’t want that for me….. the church and people I know don’t like, that I like to play heavy metal rock music on my guitar, but I am sure if god my father loves me, he would want me to do something that makes me happy and to do something that puts my soul at ease so I’ve been playing guitar hardcore for the past couple weeks again and my mental health issues are getting better
Question for all the christian magicians here:
How would you describe your relationship with god? And/or with jesus/christ?
What was the significance of the sacrifice/resurrection?
How do you interpet the second coming?
What is christ consciousness?
Hi FF... how interesting and entertaining. However, I would like to recognize the FF Community... such great comments and input. This video really woke up the people. Each comment was on point and respectful to one another. That is a sign of respect and loyal to your channel. You and the FF Community are appreciated. Thanks folks... learned a lot from each of you!! Stay safe and question everything😜
Got to hand it to you guys, you really are, collectively, just the best!
You have opened a whole new world to this 75 year old. Thank you.
Wishing you courage and blessings during any shift in world models you end up with, Bob! Maybe a video I made called "A problem with my religion" can shed further light.
Hey, killing a witch doesn't mean the witch is going to hell, right? 😅
One of the last straws before I stopped going to church completely was realizing that during confession, the priest was more troubled that I had not visited church each and every week than by the things which were actually troubling me.
I mean it's a giveaway, for sure! 😅
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Thanks!
Thank you so much! My best wishes to you! 🙏
My dude, the concepts you're presenting are so well thought through. Very much appreciate your thoughts.
How beautiful and eloquently stated. Thank You.
We are created. We are created to create. To not do so is to laugh in the face of Spirit, to deny our natural existence, and to dim our lights to a pathetic flicker.
Create, you that are created.
God looks at your heart. So intent, and where your heart is at.... that will be your answer. I think any true Christian will KNOW (through the Holy Ghost) whether they are in Gods will or not. Thank you for addressing this topic Foolie. I think the devil worshippers or practitioners of the darker side/elements of Magick know they are doing something wrong. Conviction of the spirit should guide the practitioner. Peace go with you all!
The strangest part of most people’s “hell theories” is that a just and righteous god created this place and that the majority of humanity will end up there. They base this on scripture that states no man comes to the father except through me ~Jesus. And most of these same people believe mankind is born into sin. So the only way to escape the fate of eternal hell is to embrace a life dedicated to Jesus. Meanwhile the tempting and deceiving spirits which lead man to sin become the overseers of such a place.
Why would a just and righteous god create man who “loves the world so much that he sent his only begotten...” also hate the world so much as to damn everybody else (the majority of mankind) to a tortured eternity?
The only explanation that I can come up with, is that he didn’t like what the World was turning into.
@Martin Luther where did sin come from?
Or as Max Igan has said before, "What is spelling? We use magick all the time when we write. We use symbols called words to convey a message, or to bind an agreement. Essentially we're casting a spell".
10:37 Hearing this. I think it was your second or so video here in this Playlist. It was eye-opening. Along with the story you were covering at the time. I am still glad to have found your content.
Since I've started my path, this has been my inner mind chatter, coming from a heavy catholic background, it just didn't felt right to call GOD and pray for him without a true understanding of what I was calling Father or Mother. As long as you hear your heart and your inner gut then you'll know what path you need to take. If I'm going to hell? It's scary the thought of it...but is scarier the idea of not living fully before you depart, and still, you are tied down to your own fears and judgments. Thank you Foolish Fish for this video.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for making this. I’ve been struggling with this question for some time and it’s really been inhibiting my spiritual journey. I want to keep my Christianity, it’s always been a part of me, I just know there’s more out there though and I don’t feel like I can just ignore that.
And thank you for that last bit at the end. I did not enjoy an indoctrination free life or childhood. That stuff is etched into me. But I still can’t help but see the beauty in Christianity. That’s why I just can’t bring myself to give it up, despite my broader spiritual interests and interests in magick. This gave me a lot to think about, so thank you again.
So I've been watching your videos for about a year now and I can honestly say they have truly enriched my life with valuable intake and information about topics most people must touch or talk about out loud ,keep up the GREAT WORK.
That was very much full of depth. I'm going to like 👍 this video and binge on more due to my ability to resonate with these vibes! Lol
Man, your content is pure GOLD from every point of view. You don't know how it means to me. Blessings!
I had an idea about this while visiting a historic Spiritual community- Cassadega, FL. Growing up orthodox Christian, this town was infamous. As an open minded adult I found a gem of a place. I came to the conclusion that sometimes people get a satisfaction from feeling exclusive with the power to judge. It can be intoxicating. Maybe this is a coping mechanism to thier own inner shame. We should definately exercise discernment but through wisdom and the capacity of a receptive heart.
Anyway, love your projections into the ether. Keep it up please.
When I was in middle school I was invited by my teacher to play the role of one of the Magi that visited Christ during the nativity school play. That role stuck with me for the rest of my life.
I use magick to help my "neighbors" as much as myself
You have a really cool view here, I don't necessarily agree with you, I find it really weird, we supposedly live in the same universe but the way you explain it is so different than the way I see it, that it makes me think if we really do live in the same "place". It's nice to remember that my interpretation of reality isn't the ultimate interpretation of reality, most times I act as if I'm the center of the universe, without even realizing it.
I had to play this video twice… perfect timing. As a Christian, I needed to hear this. Thank you!
I'm so glad this resonated! 🙏
That final comment has been definetly a thing to overcome for me.. I have been one of those peoole that for multiple resons grew up without being indoctrinated into any religion or faith and have judged people harshly for falling into sets of believes, as it seems so "logical" and evident to me that it is not their own ideas that guide them.. HOW DARE THEY not think like me xD
Ah, for sure, it's easy to miss how tight the trap is! 🙏 Seems so obvious... Just step out! But I love the trap... And if I even think of what it might be like out of the trap or that I don't love the trap, I'll experience pain and terror forever, and I'll never be allowed back in...
Absolutely stunning video, FF! Superb content, and flawless religious reasoning, backed up by scripture.
if you want to know more about the penetration of Magic into the Christian Middle Ages, then read the very good book: "Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition". Frances Yates
Wow this looks like a fascinating read, thank you for the suggestion!
The hunt is on! Thank you!
Completely off-topic, Denis. I love this video's background effect. So calming 😌
Thankyou for this fascinating upload, I consider myself a Christian but I have stopped practicing magick, as it's the dogma left over from my strict catholic upbringing.
But certain spiritual experiences from practicing has thrown the catholic dogma as a lie. But it leads me with more questions.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I've stumble on the work of Manly P. Hall (Magic: a treatise on esoteric ethics) and he says that a black magician is someone that practices magick with selfish goals in mind... But, by that definition we are all black magicians... Even people that pray for good health...
I love you Foolish Fish, you've changed my view of the world for the better more than once.
the divine comedy is great because it's some nerd writing about how he got a personal tour of hell and all his posting enemies were there, it's extremely relateable
well maybe they weren't posting enemies yet, posting not having been invented until luther's classic 95-tweet thread, but dante was way too online for someone born before the line
Great talk! I was listening to an organ music livestream earlier today, and when one person announced in the live chat that he was gay, another told him that he would go to hell, in other words to the pit of fire. I love the saying attributed to Rabi'a that she wanted to put out the fires of hell and burn heaven so people would want God for Himself, not for immortality. It's sad that the fear of hell should still inflict so much suffering on so many. I recently read a biography of John Betjeman in which it said that he feared going to hell because of having a mistress. I thought that it was terrible that he had felt like that.
Doing the LBRP with Raphael, Gabriel, Michael and Uriel and then going to hell for using angelic help sounds pretty dumb in my honest opinion :'')
Facts
The road to hell is paved with good intentions
Especially when YOU YOURSELF recall a life where you were hanging out with the angels - so essentially it's just you calling on some old friends and teachers for help. And to be clear, the density and compression aspect of this particular (reality we live in) realm ALONE likens it unto hell - and the inclination for people to harm others (whether because they themselves are wounded, ignorant, scared, or just wanting to exert their own power) sort of just clinches the fact in SO many respects.
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But LBRH is used Pagan Gods like Isis, Apophis and Osiris, and in the Upper LBRH the form and mantra of Egyptian pagan Gods is adopted. In the Bible it says that there is only one God
The narrative in the presentation is well appreciated.
Hi Denis, interesting subject to cover. A few thoughts, first, the question is based upon the religious version of Hell and would therefore include Heaven. So one of the issues to discuss is the belief in the present version of the scriptures. We have no idea what has been left out of the religious books, by the people in power, in order to control the masses before main stream media was introduced. I’m more of the multi dimensional, vibrational, sort of life after death. Your “location” when your physical body dies, is dependant upon the vibration of your spirit/soul. If you do good deeds, which would include good magick, for others, your vibration will be higher and therefore, you will “achieve entry” to higher vibrating realms. In contrast, if your magick is solely for personal gain, causes hurt to others in some way, or focused only on the ego and not for the benefit of others, then you vibrate at a lower frequency and are then only able to access those levels or dimensions that correspondence with your vibration. So the answer depends upon the motivation for your magick, do it for the benefit of others, good outcome, do it to hurt others, not good
I used to wonder this because I was raised a Pentecostal and felt so guilty about being interested in stuff that was forbidden like magic, the occult, other religions, etc. But I don't feel guilty anymore, I have found a little bit of the truth and know I'm doing what's right. Also the Orthodox version of Christianity is more limited and rigid. So if you haven't already i recommend reading about the "Gnostics" You will find what the different groups that fall under that label had a lot of interesting ideas
That was a fantastic bible verse. Good work. I don't necessarily think all people who work with demons are in a world of pain or problems but it depends how you approach said spirits and whether you do what you need to for self protection, also, be respectful of the spirits.
Amazing video! I always wondered about this topic. Thanks for shinning a light ❤️🤘
The funny thing is "magic" and "spells" and "prayer" are all one in the same thing. It's just that one uses circles and symbols for protection as opposed to the word of God. One uses tools for amplification as opposed to numbers of people for amplification.
When you pray, you are indeed casting a spell. You are taking your intention and putting it out into the universe with the hope that it will manifest into a miracle of God. The same can be said of spell work.
If you remove the dogma then it is all the same thing.
Organized religion is not religion but organized business which somehow avoids paying taxes. Now that's Magic!
I just feel people that use fear to preach is just to keep people as their salary. You don’t tell your bread and butter it’s their right to research the truth. When they say search the scriptures. They literally tell you read the Bible only . The more I read the more questions I had then I had to go find out who wrote the Bible and the discovery is astounding. Now I like magic these days maybe I will evolve again but knowing is very important to me.
Sola Scriptura is complicated. I believe God speaks through other books beside those of the Bible. The Holy Spirit is ever-present. It can be felt when viewing the great christians artworks such as Bernini's 'Ecstasy of St. Theresa," and Michelangelo's own Pieta.
I was always told that it's not money, but the LOVE of money that is the root of all evil
Hell is where we are now. Jesus said it in the gnostic book of Philip. We are climbing ...or ascending out of hell. King Solomon practiced various forms of Magicka.
I followed the Right Hand Path or similar to that, through the devoted and dedicated path that the SDA prescribe to. It led me to find perfect oneness with the Divine. Through my experience I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia, and my walk came to an end. I still have that peace that I was given, even though the medication puts the power on hold. Then years later, on point of prophecy, I was given a massive download as the medicine vaned. There I learned about the multiverse and how the beginning of the universe occurred. I did not see it, but the thoughts came to me explaining how the universe and multiverse is connected. I focused on the love we are supposed to have for one another, and saw then that the path of Christ and Yahweh, were both a path of destruction. Later I learned that Jesus and Christ are two different people. The gospels conflate the two and brings stories of the true Jesus and attaches it to Christ. Jesus said himself that they were not to call him Christ.
Christ was a perfectionist, he was good but he was a fanatical person that cannot handle any deviation from his character. It is a misguided concept and approach to how life functions, we do not need to be just like him in order to live in peace and harmony, we only need to apply the tenets of how to live our life. We can be either Chaotic good or Lawful evil, and if we hold to these alignments, we can live in perfect harmony. It is only when Chaos is mixed with Evil and when Law and Order is mixed with Good, that we get disharmony.
It was when I learned that it was Barabbas and not Christ that died on the cross that more of the picture began to complete itself. If the Scapegoat died on the Cross, and the Lords Goat was led into the wilderness, and later died the way the scapegoat should have died, then the plan of redemption failed. Who then is Barabbas? In myth it was the most beautiful brother that was killed by Zeus and Poseidon and sent into the underworld, or Earth - Hades. He has many names, such as Baldr from norse myth, Anu from Mesapotanian myth, but the point is, Christianity is based on the wrong pillar, the death of Christ. So it ultimately fails. Not to say that there is no power in Christianity, there is, but it only comes when we connect to JESUS, not the Christ. If we do that, then we receive what is called the Righteousness of Christ and are safe from all harm that the two gods of the Bible can ever inflict on anyone. This power is real, it is very powerful, but it is chaotic. The Power of a black hole. Unless balance is found, if this power is given free reign it will consume all light.
This is why I look to walk the Left Hand Path, to harness the power of the White Hole, to add light instead of absorbing it. It should be said also, that absorbing LIGHT, makes you good. And it had to be done in order to turn around and be able to heal the world by giving out the light that you have absorbed. And this was how Jesus, the true Jesus was able to heal others. Or so I believe. :) So first, Walk the Right Hand path until you become one with Divinity, then the Left Path so you can give off that Light in form of Healing to the sick and poor. Combined you have the power of LIFE and DEATH, or Chaos and Order. All tings die, it is the natural order of things. Chaos Lives forever, Order dies. It is the Speed of Chaos or Darkness that we measured and not the speed of light, for Light is a constant 0 speed, darkness moves very fast. Anyway, enough rambling from a madman. :)
@@ronnyandersen6733 Surely Jesus is a metaphor or symbol for something rather than a person we connect with? Or is it not that simple but both in a way?
@@mikuspalmis Everyone can connect with their alter ego, the higher self in the mirrored reality. This is very difficult to do, as it is a transfer of energy. It is still us but there is a switch in perception. Each being that exists are also unique. Jesus is the direct expression of the Source in our world. He is also a symbol for the alter ego, since he is the Source expressed in individuals. Thus everyone can connect with him, and the one they connect with is unique to themselves, for it is themselves. It is like One becoming Many, although he also have a direct manifestation as well. Normal Christianity states that we connect to the Spirit of Jesus, we then die and he remains. Thus it is he who lives in us and enables us to move about. In a sense we become Jesus, or an extension of him.
It is the Non Dual that becomes Dual. So everyone can become like him, and he also have someone that is him in a more direct way.
Exactly how this is I have not yet figured out, but I lean towards the individuality and uniqueness of beings or souls. We can get the character of Jesus and become part of him, as we are his children, all of us, regardless of faith.
It is when we speak of Christ that things get somewhat confused, as Jesus and Christ are two different people. It is important that we connect to the right principle: I connected with Love, and thus had the switch with my alter ego. That is how I understand it. My entire worldview changed over night, it just took a little time for it to manifest due to medication. :)
Your channel has cleared alot of things for me thank you for video. I feel like my pursuit of knowledge and truth has come full swing. Everything seems much clearer now. Thank you.
Wasn't expecting to like this as much as your other videos, not being a Christian, but I found your take thought-provoking. Thank you.
I love your channel, thank you very much for sharing your very interesting thoughts and knowledge.
As one who doesn't believe in Hell and used to be a Satanist, I think that the ideas you put forth here are wise and beautiful. Jesus was quite a wise man, he has my honor. Being in a religion is one thing, living by it is another entirely. I don't consider myself Christian but the more I learn about that faith, the more I'm amazed how the church actually have such a poor understanding of the Bible. Unfortunately this is common not just is Christianity, but in all the most followed faiths. Even some Pagan religions suffer from this.
Being comfortable I think is a great emphasis that needs to be taken into consideration. You shouldn't work with energies and entities that you aren't comfortable with, and you shouldn't tell others they are wrong for not associating with them. This goes for both spiritual entities and people, as I've learned having attended churches. There are churches that are rather welcoming and churches that reek of dishonesty, and many in-between.
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You're the only TH-camr I don't mind watching the ads for :)
I deeply appreciate that, @saul :D
Hel lo om from sweden and Norse paganism was my introduction to spiritual experience.
Hel in Norse mythology is the goddess of the underworld or afterlife
Hel is also what we call the afterlife
What’s interesting about this is that today we use the word Hel in our everyday language and it means WHOLE and Holy in Swedish is Helig.
So one could put one and two together and come to the conclusion that when we die we “become”(as if we weren’t already) one you God again, become whole, our perspectives expands again and we come back to the ultimate reality.
Hel means whole.
Helig means holy.
Hela means heal.
Gospel of Thomas #102 I think Jesus said it best when he said... "Damn the Pharisees! They are like a dog sleeping in the cattle manger: the dog neither eats nor [lets] the cattle eat."
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Very thoughtful and well expressed and this really provoked some awesome comments and conversation, which I guess is a testiment to that.❤️
i just read doors of perception and heavan and hell so i was so psyched to see you post this video and even more psyched when you mentioned it
Biiiig favourite of mine :D What mind, that Aldous Huxley, eh?
Would love more videos on the topic of demons! I find your point of view on it fascinating
Hey man , i just wanted you to know , your videos are having a big impact on my life lately , esoteric knowledge is the best source of knowledge !
Keep the good work coming 🔮
Really glad to stumble upon here on such a great video for a first time.
Personally I find this topic asked frequently in my mind. And the answer I've come up with is am I doing magick for my desires or for God? Sometimes they coerce but I'm not talking about coerce moments. I always try to do magick with Yeshua's purpose in mind. For I feel when I do magick solely for myself is when magick feels like an evil in my life than a good. I find working with demons not all that worth it personally, considering how vocal angels are with me, though that is just me, I am not you. Solomon worked heavy with demons and didn't lose favor with God until he decided (or you could argue charmed) to do a ceremony for another deity. Which if you plan on being Christian and using magick I would keep that in mind. Chances are other deity's will talk to you, which I've personally never had a problem with, at times it can be quite enlightening, though the temptation to worship them is quite strong. Let us not forget the Christian God is a jealous one. When it comes to churches, I personally don't go to church, I find most churches to be quite corrupt (I remember going to one of these corrupt churches and when I was in my car afterward I couldn't stop crying for how much they have corrupted the word of God). Personally my interpretation is to find a group of friends with pure good intentions toward you that can meet at a somewhat regular basis to have higher level conversations and to keep countability of each other so that they may not tread into evil purposes. This group of friends must be people you rely on absolutely, for they are your church. Please choose wisely. And lastly never forget Love. Amen.
What's being warned against isn't necessarily "excess" of wealth, but rather, focus on wealth as an object of living. A king is entitled to the riches of his kingdom; as the head of the imperial/feudal hierarchy, naturally he gets to command its economy and reap its benefits, just as the lord has the right to command his subjects. If we say otherwise we damage the principles of authority and hierarchy that work on both the earthly and heavenly realm.
A king who rejects God in favor of wealth is obviously evil, but one can have wealth whilst still embracing God foremost. A good analogy to help people understand why this is the case might be Prince Siddhartha, the first Buddha. He was from a noble family and had all the wealth he could possibly need, yet it wasn't an impediment during his path to enlightenment. He even states how his noble birth allowed him to avoid the privations and vicissitudes of work, better enabling his awakening. Many ascetics and magicians were nobles -- Brahmin (priests) in India were at the top of the caste hierarchy and it was held that they ought not to work strenuous jobs. Many of them were wealthy. In fact, if you go back earlier, Brahmin and Kshatriya (kingly/warrior caste) were effectively rolled into one. Even today, you can see wealth imbalances between the historical Brahmins and Shudra. This is a normal part of the cosmic order and isn't a problem.
However, in the Judeo-Christian tradition, the concept/personification of Mammon is relevant. Mammon is wealth-for-itself, greed, avarice, materialism, all rolled into one. This is what is really evil, not merely holding wealth, because it directs one's gaze toward contingent and temporary things rather than the eternity and transcendence of God. Anything that causes this inversion is evil, such as ignorance (avidya,) attachment, and so on. To put it in a nutshell, the goal of life is like the symbol of Sagittarius, the archer who shoots an arrow up into the air: To escape the cycle of generation and corruption and embrace the transcendent.
Something to point out here that I think was mistaken in the video is the idea that absence of wealth is itself evil; I would advance an opposing view on the grounds that differentiation of people is part of the natural order, and various pathways exist for them to attain a level of transcendent already that do not require wealth. This is the role of exoteric religions, which are open and available to all people and which often perform charitable work. Not everyone is cut out for high magick and the esoteric, it's by its very definition hidden and accessible only to qualified people. People's positions in society are not an accident, it's informed by Karma, the influence of the stars, and a bunch of other factors. We also don't have equal spiritual faculties nor even bodily faculties (differences in intelligence and inhibition for one.) The universe is an unfair place, according to the principles of differentiation and hierarchy, so there's nothing really evil about people existing in some lower place in the material hierarchy.
Even in the case where a noble soul is born among the poor there are still possibilities when one lacks money (this does happen, Siddhartha did not base qualification for his doctrine of awakening on heredity, but instead on varna, that is, one's individual qualifications, which are not necessarily hereditary.) One can realize a complete life of detachment without money, it's a matter of inner strength, will, and overcoming. It would be harder, but still possible, to overcome the challenges of poverty on a path to awakening.
Then there are other ascetic magickal rituals, for example, those expounded by the UR group as what they call "solar magick." A similar idea can be found in the Mithraic tradition. The UR group utilizes the symbols of alchemy to transmute the inner self, allowing it to gain magickal faculties and receive higher initiations. These rituals (exempting the ceremonial ones, which are not necessary) do not require any money to accomplish, and even the ones that do require materials could be done without them with good results. The books themselves are attainable for people of modest income (Introduction to Magic vol. 1 - 3) and of course there are means to acquire them on the internet for those with even more modest income, not that I recommend doing so.
The possibility of using low magic as an ascetic tool (ascetic as the Buddhists define it, whatever aids you in practice,) is interesting but dangerous. Its essential direction is to take higher energies and direct them downward/horizontally, which is in essence profanity. It is truly evil, but one could perhaps balance it if it were part of an ultimate upward action. I think it's worth avoiding for the simple reason that what's occurring on the metaphysical/intellectual plane is essentially evil when one operates low magic. Intellectuality knows no relativity, so an evil action is fundamentally still evil. It is as evil to practice low magic as it is for the government to profiteer in war.
Excellent, as always, you deliver on all points :)
I'm so glad you you like it, Gabriel! 😊🙏 Best wishes to you!
Thank you this video. The topic keeps flying back to me after putting the thought out into the universe.
Always enjoy hearing your take on things, and maybe im speaking out of ignorance but my reservations from becoming a creator was the invocation of demons, blood ritual sacrifice which i wrongly assumed that all the ethereal things used in workings were derived from pacts of fallen entities. Thanks for helping to demystify the taboo for me
The love of money is the root of all evil. I think money makes you more of what you are. If one has always been generous and then one inherits a large sum of money then I think it’ll make one more generous. Conversely if one is selfish and all about themselves then money will make one more so. Thankfully this video is not about another that I suddenly have to get. Clearly more money, for me, would be spent on all the books you have reviewed .
I like this assessment, very original of you
Respectfully, I disagree. The lack of money is more powerful. The scarcity and poverty mindset is what leads the weakest of us to fall from inherent grace.
@@Artemis583 yes, we all know about the Secret, now can we do some real magick?
@@atis9061 What is the point of the sarcastic tone? Especially when no one was actually responding to you.
Regarding Heaven & Hell being created by Dante, I believe in Zoroastrianism (the first monotheistic religion) immortal souls that balance in favour of good over evil go to what Zarathustra referred to simply as the "best existence" - or heaven - and those immortal souls that balance in favour of evil go to the "worst existence" - or hell, and remain there until the end of time.
Interesting perspective. I'm outside the Abrahamic tradition, but it's a take on it that I think is conducive to self-development more than traditional Christianity certainly.
I wonder though how your theory would account for sociopaths - people who cause harm to others yet seem to feel no internal distress over doing such?
I am not a Christian, but I have no problem with anyone based solely on the faith that they choose. I honestly believe that heaven and hell are very personal things. The concept is as old as all religions. Hell for me would be working 7 days a week with no opportunity to sleep until I wake up at least one day a week. Heaven for me is having the opportunity to have free time to spend with my beautiful wife and my son. I would go through any hell to be with my Heaven.
On the topic of Christianity, can you talk about Gnosticism and magick?
This is a very deep concept that no one else has ever put into words. I've always known that heaven and hell has been your personal consciousness Which could never die. imagine being stuck in a dreaming nightmare for Eternity although you cannot physically be hurt, the mind Convinces us that it's real. Maybe this is why plant medicines have positive and negative effects on the psyche. The experience can lead to stress and anxiety or pleasure and Bliss but it all depends on you.
Foolish fish could you recommend a book on this subject
The Doors of Perception and Heaven and He'll by Aldous Huxley.
I looooved the way you explained karma in this video, especially without mentioning it clearly.
actually if you really understand 'karma' even being a 'good person' can bring you 'bad experiences' because it is cause or effect.
and i would say 'calibration' (you calibrate to people / events, and people calibrate to you.