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Why not approach your local university and get the engineering students to design heat sinks and then do comparisons/testing. Winning student gets a computer for their studies. Promo for Linus, Uni and sponsor company, wins all round.
That's actually a really good idea. +1.
because thats not fun. if you want something good, you go to the store and buy it. That's not the purpose of the video
too clever for them.
Oh gosh, I would love to do something like that. I am currently in my mechanical engineering masters!
Also on a side note, their project on the water cooling Room and PC's could have been so much better and cheaper, with a little advice by a real engineer. But I guess that would have killed some of the fun in watching the video, for some at least.
bene20080 and the consultation fee by the engineer?
All this really proves is intel's stock cooler is entirely worthless.
@Trusty Frying Pan the stock cooler is included in the price
Hey, it's not entirely useless, you can refurbish it into a nice beer can lmfao
The new ones suck, the old copper core coolers are kinda "good".
Intel keeps costs and profits reasonable by not over-specifying on stock coolers. Thier coolers are designed to work only under the CPU's standard clocking and voltages in a typical case, but you always have to spend more if you want to push performance.
Gotta admit, I used it for nine years, and finally I got myself a noctua dh15, and I wonder how I could live before.
"You're over budget!"
"You had a blank check to buy tools, so that's no excuse."
I really love Linus' logic
Over budget for the project (in both time and money) vs having a blank check to get their own machining workshop set up so they could do projects like this and case mods and such a bit more professionally then just using a dremel and file on everything.
@@Gamerboi99 I kinda feel bad for them doing something like this in a week is very hard if your not a professional. Then designing something is very hard
@@peelthebananna9827 the thing is, they are proffesionals, but i get the feel that they underestimated how much work it takes to make a decent product
I don't feel bad at all, you can tell Alex is smart and educated, while linus has zero skills in this domain, but in vid #2 you can tell linus is trying to take a lot of credit, but you can also tell he has no idea what he's talking about, Alex has an engineering brain, and it shows
@@Gamerboi99 bruh
Alex: "they cost like 80 bucks"
Linus: "and you were just ruining them??"
Also Linus: "you have a blank check"
@Bernardo Hagen At the end of the day this has nothing to do with him being wrong by saying check
Why are we talking about how Cheque/check is pronounced?
@Bernardo Hagen and it's your ignorance for trying to correct a word with multiple spellings.
Darth Nihilus they are filming in Canada as Canadians. It is cheque.
@@hunter1586 Holy shit shut the fuck up about, "Um, It's actually cheque 🤓." whenever someone replys to you about whether it's cheque or check. It means the same fucking thing, just spelt differently. If you're really gonna be a grammar cop, then you need to apply this bull to every word. Instead of using shit, poop, or whatever variations of caca is, you have to use the original. This is what I thought at the top of my head was so don't target this shit like your life depends on it.
I like how Alex is always smiling and laughing in every video like he knows a dirty little secret that nobody else does.
Ashish Jois
Well, He laughed at a dick joke.
Whoops, I meant sex joke, the actual joke is when you ejaculate in a woman lmao
6:27
Alex, Dennis and techlinked man are my favs
He is...
"You're paying me to do this."
I think we all know that little "secret"... I mean, come on. Come on.
AS a former machinist. Yes Linus. You do want to apply that while it is spinning....
@Jason Sifer im just 16 and I know that
A bridgeport would be a great addition to their shop I think.. that hand tool work .... bleh.
actually you want to aply it if you got a cooling rig at least bigger diameters we did it was Ø35 mm hole but still you want to apply it constantly
@@valentinpetrovitsch9406 are you agreeing with him or did you misunderstand
JimTheKid they have one. They didn’t when they did this video but they have one now
You know it’s Linus Tech Tips when the angle grinder is labeled “ANGLE GRINDER”
And the saw is labeled "SAW"
Matheus Pacheco DO NOT DROP
And the hammer is labeled "HAMMER"
Yaa funnny
>walks up to a drill press
"Huh, it's basically a milling machine."
This should be good.
it's helpful to know that Alex was in SAE Baja. So I am pretty sure he knows the difference^^ More of an inside joke i guess
Exsatly what i thought 🤣
Me, who has actually operated a mill: WHERE ARE THE OTHER MOVEMENT AXIS LINUS
I have no idea what should be done, but I know drill pressing bunch of aluminium plates isn't it chief.
Oh you fancy Americans with your fancy words, in Germany we call it just how it looks😂
Like we call it Tischbohrmaschine (Table Drill)
Or in this specific version Standbohrmaschine/Säulenbohrmaschine (Standing/Pillar drill)😂
@ 15:40 you cannot read the thermals from reflective metals, the emissivity affects the read temperature... stick some black tape over it and try again!
that actually kinda makes sense...
That heat camera is reading IR light (or heat waves) emitted from a surface, it can accurately read the temperature of a see through pane of glass.
98ahni - thermal cameras cannot read the temperature of reflective surfaces, the kind of surface effects the readings taken. Reflective metals are particularly prone to false readings, which is why they are normally painted or taped when readings need to be taken.
98ahni
Thermal cameras can't see trough regular glass only sapphire.
And shiny metals is like a mirror for it so you can't read the temperature on it, read the manual for any thermal cam.
Lol, that's exactly what my thermodynamics professor told me. I had never used one and didn't read the manual let alone think about how it worked. Seeing that I now know that it's based on blackbody radiation it's pretty obvious.
comment section summed up:
>watches a video called sketchy heatsinks
>complains that the heatsinks (and processes used) are sketchy
#aluminumSheetLivesMatter #heatpipeLivesMatter
Your comment is sketchy
Not as sketchy as that heatsink.
yeet
Welcome to the comments section. Where common sense goes to die
Now that Alex actually has a workshop full of the right tools, we need to see what he can do with them
Yesss
“You can’t just slap a block of aluminum on the CPU, though.”
Pretty sure that was LITERALLY the end result of episode 2. It didn’t even have a fan except for a Corsair 120mm vaguely blowing next to it.
You gave him a blank check, and he was over budget? Don't know how that happens 😂👀🍵🕵
Catalyst Reaction prob not what he expecting him to spend
I'm thinking he said cheque
#linusmanagementtips
Games With Nic comedy gold
What I've learned about blank checks: The boss gets to write the amount in at the end based on your results :D
As a cpu, this is hot to watch
Hey, I'm a big fan.
This shit hertz to read.
xd
You cuda made a better joke
Durv2 as a heat sink. Getting drilled by Linus as lube flies everywhere. Pretty hot.
"you had a blank cheque to get the tools you needed" some time later... (Their mega workshop vid)
That's what happens when you tell somebody, on camera, that they had a blank check. They say "Ok, Then let's DO THIS!" That's what I would, do anyway.
Going back and watching this, I actually feel so bad for Alex. I can think of so many different ways to do this so easily in a properly equipped machine shop, and he's got a hacksaw.
I have to behonest here Im not to impressed with Alexes work. Since he more or less can buy what he wants.
@@stalkinghawk9244 Not really. Just because he had a blank cheque doesn't mean he's got an unlimited budget or even a huge one at all.
@@jackass5066 From all the machines he has got sofar. He has enough to get this job done correctly.
Alex is not very impressive at fabrication. I 100% guarentee i could produce a product way better than this with the budget they had and im no wizard
@@colossalbreacker sometimes the simplest things are the easiest
5:40 YES YOU DO APPLY IT WHILE IT'S SPINNING LINUS! THIS IS WHY YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE TOOLS!
+
In all seriousness. Most people have a small oil can with like a gooseneck thing. A little pump that you press with ur thumb squirts oil onto the drill bit. If you don't do this you wear out your drill bit. Cause it over heats
I've never even used tools and i know that 😂
I ended up filling an old sore throat spray bottle with my cutting oil.
One spritz and it soothes your overheating endmill and makes the flutes glide through the metal like butter! :P
WTF do you need oil when drilling aluminum?
Note about soldering heatpipes: You can solder them, you just need to use a different type of solder. Personally, I use this stuff called ChipQuik, it's a different alloy that melts well below the explosion temperature of heatpipes. I recommend either a VERY powerful soldering iron or a pencil torch, heatpipes are hard to warm up by design.
That thermal epoxy is probably one of the biggest performance losses.
Also, heatpipe bending is easy, just a couple rules: 3x pipe diameter is minimum bend radius, this is to protect the inner capillary lining that allows the heatpipe to function. I recommend using bending springs and a template, that worked very well for me.
And an important note about heatpipe selection: Not all heatpipes are created equal. There are different capillary linings that are more or less effective and which operate in different positions. Sintered heatpipes are best f you're going to be in a variety of orientations, ridged heatpipes are horizontal only, but can carry way more energy because the fluid can flow faster.
Nice. I don't know what any of those are, but it's interesting.
As a mechanic, my eyes are bleeding while watching you guys doing all rhis stuff xD but soo funny 😀
I’m not a mechanic but my eyes still bleed 😆
Bro im mechanic too!!!
@RexTech thanks bro i earn a lot of money i need to find a Big booty gymshark girlfriend now
@RexTech im mechanic on amazon mechanical turk
I'm pretty sure that bench vise is not supposed to go on a drill press 🤔
It's awesome to see how far Alex has come. He was incredibly shy when he first started. He's come out of his shell in this video and as of 2021 he's a great host filled with confidence. Really nice to see a smart guy like him doing so great :)
Alex shifted his menace vectorand instead of being a menace to himself, became a menace to his cohosts.
Swear to god, there's either a Frankenstein or Ivo Robotnik inside his head.
That red footage looks just that bit better in crispy clean 360p
haha
well done buddy
Yay, we can see the jankiness in clear detail. XD
360p you lucky man i only got 144p
The execution of this reminds me of Top Gear making a convertible people carrier.
I loved that episode
What about hammerhead eagle I thrust ?
@ ooh yeah, I remember that one.
Linus Tech Tips: Ambitious but rubbish
Man now I really remember why I miss old top gear. If it isn’t Jeremy Richard and James then it ain’t top gear.
1 year later:
Linus: makes a heatsink that are better than noctua
As a soulless algorithm, this is so recommendable to watch!
Ok Goggle. Turn off my Light.
As an actual machinist, this is soooooo painful to watch.
Winterfalke Yeah i thougt that too haha
As a former machinist, it's still sooooo painful to watch.
As a current engineer, this made me have pain in a specific part of my body
The appeal of this series is that we know for certain LTT will fuck it up. A skilled craftsman making a quality heatsink from parts? Boooooriiiiing.
OMG this is killing me too
As a professional machinist I can appreciate just how sketchy this is.
I'm surprised they didn't break a drill
Right think we all have bodged something in the shop just to get it done. I still have a ball pein hammer I made from scrap cause someone stole mine out of my box.
does one get customers first in order to afford tools? and how do you get a place? because a place is so expensive.
@@snorttroll4379 It is a catch 22, usually you make money working for someone else, and if brave enough you use those savings ( plus a loan often ) to start a business.
I absolutely love coming back to these videos of Alex, especially comparing them to his more recent works
Exactly why I'm here atm
Every DIY project Alex does is fascinating. These videos are the perfect blend of thoughtful engineering and fly-by-the-seat-of-their-pants chaos
This is the video that you watch in shop class for examples of what not to do
BRNKoINSANITY All that yummy aluminum dust
Yeah lmao
Oh hey BRNK!
Dude, if Linus said ok, you should buy a cnc router for things like this.
Сергей Л he wouldn’t say yes to that
The Hunter why not you can buy kits for 2000$ that work perfectly fine. Obviously you have to build it yourself but they would shy away from that
Stef A that's still 2000 for 1 video they couldn't justify spending that
They've got a CNC laser cutter, if they can justify that, they can justify a CNC router, kinda goes against the spirit of the series though
The Hunter um whut, do you know how many views this video is going to get? Not to mention they could use it in more videos in the future
Alex is the perfect "this is not what you're supposed to do, but it works" type of worker.
Every company needs a handy-man like that ;)
I love how Linus said “your calling what your doing machining” and cuts to angle grinder clip.
This guy is to Linus what Linus is to literally everyone else when he's doing his own thing.
You mean worse than Linus? Okay. And Linus is certainly a worse hobby machinist than many of us here.
I can't wait until he just buys a CNC machine probably around episode 6 of this series.
Valix lol
Yesz
What is shown at 4:03? I thought that was a CNC machine.
Malus It's a 3d printer to make the makeshift drill guide
+Malus +Mr. JAM That is not a CNC or a 3D Printer. It's a Laser Cutter.
"trust me i'm an engineer"
I really like how you labeled the ankle grinder. Very helpful
I'm not sure what the point of this series is. Is it to point out how hard it is to engineer? if so mission accomplished
It's just fun
just fun to try man
Did Linus just like a comment?!
As an Engineer, this is hilarious and I love it
It also proves just how bad the stock cooler is
Alex is a very practical man with a nice name. I like him
Agreed.
I love the name Alex too. It's my husband's name. But I also agree that smile and also he is just a big cute softy...
You know it's gonna be a great video, when Alex is involved. "Yeah, I was just gonna eyeball it". Love you Alex :D
I love how he says “I don’t need you to get off to be satisfied” I feel bad for his wife
When you said it's been over a year since the last episode I about shit myself. Time goes by fast, or maybe I watched those episodes late.
T D lol same here.
Dear Linus, thank you for picking on calling that "machining". I had a boss once who constantly told me to "machine" things and we had no machine tools, so he meant grind. I always corrected him because it pissed me off that we didn't have the tools.
HotRodHippie I thought your username for a sec was HotRedNipple lol
They are IT people. It is amazing none of them killed themselves or blew up the whole city.
I bet you're a blast to work with
You dogg on their "machining" but honestly this was a great video. I am sure plenty of us have considered trying something just like this, in just as much of a half baked fashion. Harkens back to the days when Linus made amazing content. Was truly entertaining, even the semi toxic banter between them.
(protip for the future, instead of thermal epoxy, use a solder pot to create liquid solder that you can pour. flux the heatpipes and cpu-block holes, pour solder and insert heatpipes)
Just go machine shop gg
"Heat pipes will explode when you... Heat them".
Can't wait to see the next episode with the new gear folks!
best video ever.
As a heatsink engineer with some workshop experience this is painful, but still very entertaining
i dont know what the right tools are, but i know that the ones they used were not it.
the pain.
Haha I was thinking the same thing
Where can i place an order for a custom heatsink?
If it works... job done... will people pay for it, eh.
Justin Clonts what was your first hint, the angle grinder? 😂
With all the new experiments at LTT, soon we'll see Linus Manufacturing Tips.
No, just no..
You know you're dealing with professionals when the angle grinder has a label "angle grinder" on it.
That's how you make sure it's the workshop angle grinder.
You shouldn't use bedroom angle grinder in workshop
@@nandulalkrishna923 Exactly! Sometimes I find my roommate using the kitchen angle grinder in the workshop. Thats gotta stay sanitary, dumbass!
@@thekingoffailure9967 I die a little inside whenever my housemate uses my fabric angle grinder on paper
There are people who work at LMG who don't know or don't have any experience with an angle grinder, so that label is there for them. So in situations where someone asks another person to fetch one they don't waste a whole butt-ton of time looking for one.
Ever since y'all hired some great engineers, this channel has been exciting
Woah woah throw away those grinding discs you used to grind on the aluminum right away. You never use regular grinding discs on soft metal such as aluminum. The metal can get embedded into the disc throwing it off balance and spinning at 10k-15k rpm will cause it to shatter throwing shrapnel everywhere. Also becareful placing the grinder down on the disc. The same issue can happen if you smack the grinding disc into a hard surface. Had one guy at work split his guts open because the grinding disc exploded.
John Morales the second part is right, you never set it down on the disc, but spinning at 15k rpm shouldn't make it fail seeing as operating rpm is 11-12k. theyre supposed to have the max rpm printed on them, which is usually 22k or higher, ive seen 60k on really good discs
Woah that's serious
Don't forget that balanced operating range is way different than unbalanced one, vibrations are a bitch and destroy everything you can imagine
Those were aluminum cutting discs, we're not a fan of potential disc explosions either.
I love the Angle Grinder marking on it, I have a feeling someone had to hardscript the build, but wasn't there when shot! :) A 125mm disc has a periferal speed of 353km/h or 220Mph at 15000rpm, of course it can hurt you if it splits!
heads up, NEVER EVER use gloves with a drill press or rotary sander. the danger of the glove catching in the bit/belt is WAY to high to risk, it can rip your hand clean off.
also...DON'T USE GRINDER CUTTING DISCS ON ALUMINIUM. I can't stress this enough guys, aluminium self-welds so it clogs the edge of the disc which can then overheat and explode. Goggles good, bits of grinder disc embedded in face around goggles bad
Nothing like degloving a hand of its flesh .
The glove thing is true. Happened to me at school, was lucky enough to press the emergency stop. An oh yeah it ran at 1150 rpm
I hope Linus Tech Tips sees your comment & go through OSHA guideline (not as a comedic burden on LTT, but I genuinely worry about workplace safety for companies that I like such as LTT)
Fuck OSHA also they don't have osha guidlines in CA.
Linus: "I approve everything you want to buy!" Also linus: "You spent money on GOOD QUALITY HEAT PIPES??"
I really like the videos with Alex, and he is really lucky to have a boss which is letting him buy all he needs
Sketchy Heatsink: Intel stock cooler.
Can it be as bad as the old AMD stock cooler? Oh, I remember the grinding sounds...
Cavey Manta Nothing is worse than the sound of your Intel stock cooler constantly speeding up and slowing down.
you clearly never had amd fx and stock cooler for it... th-cam.com/video/aTsZ1UBJR9c/w-d-xo.html
Hahah i love alexs ideas...he needs his own series
Called Shit Alex Does that does not turn out shit!
Wow, I find it amazing you guys approved this project without a CNC mill and pretty crazy you spent $80 on heat pipes, cool to see the heatsink working
As "stupid" as this video may seem, I'm using this as a reference to create my own custom heatsink.
Really great job, Alex!
Scrapyard wars but you have to hand manufacture the cooling for the CPU and GPU.
As a fabricator, this is painful to watch.
I laughed when they said they can't solder it. Because i often solder heat pipes in laptops with a torch. Though soldering aluminum with torch is really tricky.
And they can't even cut aluminium by hand.
Agreed
Thinking the same
I honestly can't understand why they pay him to do this shit... Is it... is it supposed to be entertaining? The way he fucks up every single thing he touches?
You guys totally need to do this again with all your new tech/tools
Watching this a day after the watercooling the red camera video. They have come a long way!
"You can't just slap a block of aluminum on the CPU"
Well there goes the first 2 videos
Have that man build a whole pc like this!
Need a part 4!! He can for sure do a better job now
I've been watching this channel and these videos for ages and it's only just occured to me that every time these guy videos with Linus, it's almost like they're being audited by their boss every. single. time.
"I don't need you to get off to be satisfied" Linus 2018
was looking for this comment
Same Tho. XD
Well, we know what his sex life is like.
This video is a great illustration of why machine shops exist lol
They used the hell out of that drill press though
this needs a revisit, with the new shop and all the equipment they have I bet they could do a really good job now
This makes me feel so much better about my current project.
I'd love to see them run a competition for home made heat sinks where they give the winner a new GPU or something.
"give the winner a new GPU or something" cause he is going to need a new one anyway :D
I'm up for this.
As a "as a " commenter, these comments are hard to watch!
@@JesseO-nh3us as a commenter,this is
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i would love to see another attempt at this just due to all the cool tech they have now
I love how these are computer guys, but I am envious of all of their woodworking equipment.
Instead of drilling holes to size, you need to drill them slightly too small, then heat up the block to expand the holes, so that they shrink and weld the pieces together.
clever ^^
nope. you have to freeze the heatpipes and then heat up the block.
its the same as placing ball bearings in an engine.
@@Mirael28 logiC.
@NPC #19548796 'Tolerances would be sloppy using only a drill press. Need a mill'... Riiiiight, no. Drill presses are used to drill holes to a few microns tolerances. Mills are for for milling and drills are for for drilling. Just because a mill has a drive designed for axial pressure doesn't mean it is magically more accurate than a drill. Good drills have fantastic linear stability and will blow most mills out of the park when making straight holes, especially on run out. Each tool has a purpose, and they excel at that.
Thermal shrinkage isn't a weld, it's a compressive type of contact. The materials dont fuse like in welding but rather clamp down. It's a compression join, rather than a weld which is meaning making the two parts into one solid. A thermal joint like this can still be undone with a controlled cooling and heating unlike a weld which will require cutting, since both materials are not just bonded but fused or mixed.
Friction welding is a different but totally cool topic you can look up.
'It's hard to criticize others people's products as of now'.....nice video
Would love to see a new one of these made with all your new equipment and see if it comes out any better!
Pretty interesting to see the progression of Alex. Nowadays he creates professional mechanical engineer level drawings in Solidworks, does amazing CNC work, and designs everything with a great level of forethought (even if on-the-fly). Nice to see that advancement
I almost did not watch this but boy am I glad I did.
Yea stupid but informative, More like this please.
As much as I love Linus this is cringy as fuck!
alexphotoman what the hell? this video was awesome
Chad Mojito 🇫🇷🍔🐀 good for you!
As a consumer this is so entertaining to watch.
I love it! That was a SUCCESS. Good job guys👌
I have the impression that the angle Grinder is your preffered Tool of engeneering ^^
I like that
That voiceover tho... Crispy documentary mode
Yea that needs to go
It's like watching a modern version of the Red Green Show. Remember Alex, if the ladies don't find ya handsome, they should at least find ya handy.
LOL!
Now that you've gotten all of the correct equipment, are you going to do another?
I'm really looking forward on this
Lol linus throwing his foot down in the start "you had a blank check to buy the tools needed"
As a painful this is machinist to watch
Why are you wording up your mixes?
THIS IS PAINFUL FOR ANYONE
sorry
I think anyone involved in Engineering is hurt bit by this.
As a educator, it hurts also 😂😂😂
as a hurts, it educator also
So early, it's still 360p
same
2 Minutes later and it is still 360P
In The Mind of Kibara same
Same :/
In The Mind of Kibara Still 360p, fuckin nasty
We need another episode like this in 2021!
Coming from this to the workshop they have come a long way
As a kid with no machining skills at all. This is painful to watch.
Not a kid and not exactly no machining skills, but very minimal, and yeah i think i could do a better job on the machining par.
@Advocatus Diaboli lmao no
Jacobee Games as a no machining with kid skills at all. This is watch to painful.
@@Ferotiq argeed
As an active machinist this is completely painful to watch. However I do have to give them some credit on the fact that they did a lot better than I expected.
That bender cost $20?
If they had paid you $20 to take it, it would still have been overpriced.
Is it really that bad?
Nah, it's got a scrap value of at least half a cent, maybe even several cents if you time your trip to the scrapyard right.
Still a dick move to sell it at any price with "bender" on the label.
Watching Linus doing these cooling ideas before CNC machines and after it was A BIG DIFFERENCE
This series definitely needs a revisit once the LTT Lab is up and running
Please more, more, more! More sketchy series! Make all the things! This was so entertaining. Plus you need to get your money's worth out of those machines. #moresketchystuffplease
i would have bashed Linus if he did the video entirely, but watching Alex getting proud over nothing and his shenanigans is enjoyable even though the heatsink sucks
it was very brave of you to publish this :-)
George Michel careless whisper.
Very good video Linus.
As a budding machinist this is painful lol!
Well, as someone who can’t file a straight line properly this was amazing. Blew me away but can you tell me how can I get better ?
look up clickspring if you want filing tips
OMG right, I've been a metal worker/machinist for years and watching anything on this channel involving tools is painful to watch
Shrut Sanghvi
Go to a local technology center and ask about the Advanced Manufacturing class, or the machining class, they go about other names as well, but I'm sure that they will be more than willing to teach you the basics of machining. I learned as a student in one, but we had an adult who came and learned from my instructor. So long as you do a better job at being a good student than the actual students in the class, you'll be fine
As a learning mechanic (and eventually aviation technician) how the hell do you screw up making a copper tube 90 degrees?! Hint it's not the tools fault ;P
This needs an update, what with their new CNC and better experience at working with heat pipes...
Now that you all have a fully functional workshop with all the bells and whistles and precision equipment I'd like to see you try this again
Makes me chuckle thanks linus