I feel like watching LTT is like watching a nature documentary where the cameraman has an ethical obligation to not help a dying animal, especially when Linus is balancing a computer on the edge of two flimsy plastic tubs, one of which is filled with water, while ripping open a bag of ice with his *teeth.*
I am like number 64 on this comment Someone needs to hire a voice over person and redo some of the video with what the nature person would be saying like "here we see Linus Sebastian, clearly instruct a subordinate, not to climb on the wheeled elevated platform"
"took a while but I got the cover off of my B550M AM4 motherboard and installed my new intel core i9 12400KF, I don't know why they keep the cover on those."
This video is basically just Linus trying to re-invent custom watercooling "What if we took heat fins, and put them in water" "Hmm, adding a pump to move the water around would be more effective at cooling"
dont really need pump to move water around with that amount of water and heat source... convection current will do the trick.. but provide the surface of the water could cool down fast enough to prevent thermal throttling
not really, it's inverting a water cooler. In normal water coolers the water is used to transport the heat away from the cpu into the fins which get air cooled by fans. Here he's literally using water as the cooler medium for the fins, if anything this is TRUE water cooling.
@@Zuilli completely agree. And eventually this system will gain temperature because it's just storing the heat in the water. Unless you bring in air to move the heat into the room, or water from the sink, it'll eventually gain temperature until equilibrium is reached (which would probably be at least room temperature)
13:41 Great idea allowing the guy notorious for dropping items to be leaning a Power Supply right over a container of water one handed while distracted opening a bag XD
What do you think premium ice is made out of ice 9? It's made of ice Now this makes me think that somebody out there thinks that ice of higher numbers is made out of ice of lower numbers not the difference between charcoal and diamond
@@Gobbbbb I know I'm adding to the joke the first line is stating the obvious the second one's making another joke that fancier versions of water do exist just not really as a substance more of a structure
@@djchameleon6582 Ah sorry, reading text properly isn't a strong suit of mine lol. It's always been funny to me that people pay a lot money for ice, especially when they take it home and put it in their freezer. My mum does it and it bothers me so much, we even have ice trays 🙄
I was just about to say it too. (Good thing I checked if there was already a comment about it. *Stares at the people who type essentialy the same comments repeatability on videos*)
Reminds me of Major Hardware and his water-cooling of an air-cooler some two years ago. Though he enclosed the fins with its own reservoir. Remember it worked, sort of.
@@centlytical was gonna give you a like, but then i saw you still had the same number of likes that the previous guy said so i didn't want to ruin it. so here's 👍a thumbs up
CEO of the company, personally owns the building, wrote the script and decided what they are doing, AND this video was probably his idea in the first place. But he doesn't make the rules!
@@trapical Linus doesn't do much ideas and almost no scripts other than of devices he personally tests. That's given considering he has specialised people for that kind of stuff
Honestly, if you could find a more elegant and safe way to do it, literally just dunking the heat sink in water *could* potentially be a valid cooling option.
What you ought to do is cover the heat sink in a plastic, waterproof frame and take a water pump which will continually drag cool water through the heat sinks. Basically it’ll be a safer version of water cooling.
You could totally make a silicon barrier between the water and the delicate bits that seals around the heat pipes and submerge your cooler in a circulating water feature. Like a lazy river through PC islands.
But if you are going to this length, at this point whats the points of even bothering with heatsink and water at all? Just submerge whole pc into oil based non-conductive liquid designed specifically for this. This is what lot of miners do to save on power usage.
Also, might try placing the pump on its side (if possible) and directing the water output at the opposite wall, setting up a circulation pattern in the tank. Or a magnetic stirrer such as used in chem labs.
This would actually work really well if you had a proper rubber seal between the back of the case and the reservoir that snugged around the heat pipes with silicone. Then you could have a case that's computer on top, sealed container of water on the bottom, with heatskinks going through the seal down into the water, and a pump to move around the water. In practice I think this would actually be safer and more effective than a regular water cooling setup because it's fail-safe: the water is always below the computer and cannot fall upwards.
I feel like it would work even better if a massive heatspreader like this one were enclosed with a pump inside of it to act as a big AIO. Circulating the liquid slowly from a big heatsync to a cooling reservoir and so forth would probably work so much better than current AIOs. This video really makes you think.
But for the safety part, you're absolutely right. This would be a lot better by what you said. I'm thinking more in terms of marketability and portability
I did this as an electronics shop project in sophomore year of high school. I flex sealed a plexiglass box around a hyper 212 and put it into a water cooling loop. It worked really well until the box broke and water went all over the motherboard
This video gave me an idea. 1) fill a bucket with water. 2) put a heat sink in it, but with the mounting hardware above the water line. 3) put it in the freezer. 4) test how a block of ice works as a cooler.
Amusingly, my neighbor discovered that this ends very badly. When water freezes into ice, it expands, and it will happily bend/warp/break delicate metal bits that are submerged within it, especially at the surface. (I might have thoroughly enjoyed watching him prove me right about just how bad of an idea it was to try to do XD)
Also Ice Water > Ice when it comes to cooling shit. Many people don't realise this but ice water is always at the freezing point of water and is far superior when it comes to cooling because it's a liquid not a solid and thus far superior at dissipating heat. Ice may be able to reach sub freezing temperatures but at the end of the day you'd be better off creating a saline ice water solution. If you want to get serious about cooling I recommend buying a block of dry ice and dissolving it in acetone/isopropyl-alcohol. You can easily reach -75°C that way.
The passive cooling heatsink would most likely work much better if it was mounted horizontal to the chassis, since the fins didn’t allow airflow to pass through the fins in this configuration. I’m surprised you didn’t think of that
Technically, less steps. No tubes, reservoirs, or fittings to worry about. Just slap the heatsink on, fill a bucket with ice water, drop in a submersible pump, and you're good to go! No bleeding the loop, no fans to cable manage, and probably a heck of a lot cheaper too! Not saying this is smart.. There are just less steps, and it's definitely unique so there's that. 😂
3 things I really wish you had tried: 1) mount the water pump on the side of the tub, so the water flows through the fins of the cooler. 2) putting that massive cpu cooler that came with the MB on a GPU 3) rigging that motherboard for LN2. Seem like you might be able to mount a pot on there in a way that keeps condensation off of the board.
Major Hardware sends his regards :D Edit: When you said you wanna come up with something more "usable", PLS do a colab with Major Hardware! He did something like this a while ago and he deserves it :)
Technically speaking, you could buy a marine type freezer kit, drill some holes in the provided heat sink, and put the coils from the freezer kit inside the cooler, then encase that in foam so you don't have to run it 24/7 and that would probably cool this to shits. It wouldn't be feasible with a regular pc, because that would condensate inside the sensitive areas, but with this, you could buy two sheets of copper sticker and put them on the case facing the cooler and on a separator board facing the case, killing off condensation. TLDR this setup is the first setup that can be freezer cooled without running excessive lines away from the CPU.
This is actually a superb way of designing mobos and CPU coolers imo, all the heat of the CPU is on a separate side, so the GPU and CPU is separated to allow for lower temps, less hot air mixing up in close proximity, plus the CPU cooler can then be designed to be spread out across the back of the mobo like the one in this video, add to that 1 or two jumbo 200mm fans, which are much quieter than smaller ones and move much more air, now you have the GPU in its own compartment being cooled and the hot air extracted, same for the PSU, and the CPU is separated at the back, pretty much the most refined ATX design we have seen so far, everything back in the day was huddled together in a tight poorly designed case, the PSU was right by the CPU which was right above the GPU, plus the north and south bridge and the memory, all that heat in close proximity can't be good for thermals, stability, machine life expectancy and so on. Then they just have to work on some PC cases with this updated ATX form factor, one with a nice big separate area sealed off to isolate the CPU and it's cooler, this should end up with lower noise output as well.
Here is an idea, get a top dropping ice machine, port a hole at the bottom where ice/water would collected then feed that same cooler block from inside and stick the cpu connecting part out, seal and connect and run to your hearts content, install a nactua water poof fan from inside the ice maker blowing inwards from left or right to vise versa to keep water flowing through the fins. Now you would use your current case along with the same cooler and only need the super cheap ice machine, additionally you could drill two port holes on the lid and connect fans inside pointing out to blow outwards, which would provide a little bonus AC to your immediate area.
@@communistgooglepartybolshe5511 to be fair it's not the same design, but the same concept, still though would be cool if LTT with its bigger budget could make what MH made but more reliable and better designed for the water flow.
Linus you can revisit the "whole room cooling" again with these reverse PC's all coolers touching the wall, into a copper piping that Luke's dad installed.
if you were worried about metal dust contamination and such, you could run it as a closed system, where the intake for the system was ported in from an ac unit or refrigerator/freezer that was pulling air in from outside. you might need to seal the electronic components, as constant exposure to that kind of cold air could cause moisture buildup, perhaps the cooling box could contain a small dehumidifier. this would obviously consume a lot of power, but would be a practical solution that wouldn't see a computer sitting so close to a vat of water.
@@danieljensen2626 the weight of a mb yes but there was a massive heatsink behind the board, that's why i'm so concerned because that is really heavy - really just look at how bent that slot is, and the angle of both memory sticks. it's not even a metal reinforced slot like we've been seeing on some high-end boards these days
Linus - submerges the NHD-15 into a bucket of Ice Water. Noctua - "He did what? . . . . . Linussssssssssssssssss!" Noctua Tech - "Can we make that work for real?"
@@Deses Actually, that was a great video where he built the enclosure to basically make the heatsink into a super efficient water block. Linus, with all that workshop gear could have done an amazing version of that without nearly shorting out a system in the process.
This is the reason why people love Linus and his team, we love seeing him struggling on what he do best, playing on those techs, doing the unusual stuffs... and WTH that water splash almost gave me a heart attack
13:47 - I love how Linus talks about how he employees a bunch of people and then he tries to balance a pc on a plastic bin with one hand and open ice with the other. Classic Linus Butter Tips.
The reverse mount CPU is such an innovative option for people wanting to build passive cooling solutions or manage cooling in their machine. I'm imagining a lot of crazy build you could do with this! Hopefully more manufacturers make this an option!
@@Sencess Yep linus is a madman. Makes me wonder what he would do if Yvonne didnt keep him in check. Granted it's for the best whole room water cooling was a bit much
Exactly, he's the CEO. He's not in charge of things like that. He has other people for things like that. My guess is that Yvonne and Nick are the ones who actually make the rules in LMG.
@@LaDeXi yeah but still. Linus Media Group is his company and he is the face of it. He himself has a say on most of the videos that they do, I'm sure. After all its his reputation on the line so he must be controlling content and the actions of staff in episodes to some degree.
@@spawngaming3261 Yes, to some degree, so your right on a technicality by 15% and the joke is right on a technicality by 85%. the COO actually comes up with the rules and the CEO signs off on them. I guess always being right to some degree is the funniest joke of all time /SARCASM.
There are already some motherboards that allow you to install an m.2 drive on the back. The main reason why manufacturers usually don’t put other slots on the back is because traditional cases don’t have the space behind the motherboard to fit things like a ram slot.
There's already enough space on one side for 99% of use cases. If they used both sides it would only increase their costs and make it a pain in the ass to assemble while also forcing you to buy a WIDE computer case.
Sitting a MacBook with the bottom resting on a water surface to cool it, building multiple very jank versions of air and water cooling blocks including a very poorly cast one they made out of aluminum, reusing the parts from a mineral oil submerged pc. This is honestly pretty simple compared so many of the other jank things they have done.
I think a magnetic stir bar in the bottom of the tub would have made the water flow better or a very gentle wave machine to get water and air contact with the fins
Linus in other videos: "Look at how many people work for me!" Linus in this video: "I'm the only person who can be in this video holding a computer balanced on 2 plastic tubs filled with water"
With the electricity and water linus just wanted to take the risk to ensure the safety of his employees cause thats the kind of man he is. Nah i kid he totally had dude hold the computer that is plugged in to mains above buckets of water after trying to crush that mans dreams of climbing on the table.
Lol, yeah, watching him balance a computer over a tub of water while struggling to open a bag of ice was one of the most risky things I've ever seen on this channel, haha.
When I was a kid I won a science fair by running performance tests on a junk computer with air cooling vs dry ice directly on the heat sink lol. This brought back memories.
there is a "thing" about these type of LTT video's that take me back to '90's LAN parties at about 5am when crazy ideas seem like the right thing to do
6:04 Regarding the missing CMOS battery, I guess is because the shipping policy in China -- absolutely no battery for air shipping! If you want to ship it with the battery, you have to choose ocean shipping, but that means you have to wait a few months to receive the product.
I've been continuously surprised at how well regular ass hardware holds up to dust. We've got a client who does architectural steel and most of their shop systems are basically coated in iron filings and yet despite being normal ass optiplexes they basically all still work fine.
On a related note, I'm constantly surprised by how well modern hardware holds up to Linus... He does all the things I grew up learning to NEVER do, yet it all mostly works out. Goes to show you just how resilient modern computer hardware is
Today the thought occurred that maybe it is possible to make a passive cooled setup with a mineral oil / transformer oil mister setup in order to "water cool" the passive cooling. I think that would work too. With a non conductive liquid mist cooling you theoretically have a sealed case too.
Major Hardware actually did the whole "Water Cooling an Air Cooler" thing Two years.. That being said it was an awesome series of videos and I'm glad to see it expanded on by another TH-camr that I enjoy watching! Just needed to give credit where it's due! Here is a link to Major Hardware's original video: th-cam.com/video/bXFxuqzLu1Q/w-d-xo.html Cheers!
Hell that wasn't crazy enough, he also did an "Air Cooling a Water Cooler" replacing the radiator and fans with a weird 3d printed bucket fountain nuclear cooling tower thing. The stupid thing worked. I thought it would do nothing but it worked. And the clockwork fan worked, I thought it would blow to pieces and it was loud as hell but it worked. WTF
Having seen this idea be properly done a long time ago, and already knowing it works when done right, I am glad to see you guys give it a try in the same spirited "winging it" fasion, as usual :)
Yeah, MajorHardware did this ages ago. It's a shitty but workable solution if you somehow have access to all of the other watercooling components but can't get a CPU block.
I'm betting you that the people who designed this also designed a special case for it where the heat sink could radiate the heat onto the case which would then get wicked away by the air.
I feel like watching LTT is like watching a nature documentary where the cameraman has an ethical obligation to not help a dying animal, especially when Linus is balancing a computer on the edge of two flimsy plastic tubs, one of which is filled with water, while ripping open a bag of ice with his *teeth.*
There's.... something eeriely accurate with this comment. It's so strangely perfect for the entirety of LTT.
I am like number 64 on this comment
Someone needs to hire a voice over person and redo some of the video with what the nature person would be saying like "here we see Linus Sebastian, clearly instruct a subordinate, not to climb on the wheeled elevated platform"
Lmao, I wish I could save comments. I was thinking the same thing
I think that only applies when Linus+Alex+workShop align.
@@Kafj302 David Attenborough's voice would be perfect
8:04 "with a Dremel, anything is compatible with anything"
wise words
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Ordered wrong replacement fans for my gpu, a dremel got it to fit and work anyway
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...and Duct Tape
Finally I found an easy watercooling tutorial without all that pump, res and fitting blabla. Thanks.
And it's cheap!
I mean like you can change the water after every 1 game if you find a good box
@@EsherAxe I just set a water sprinkler connected to the mains to spray water continuously at the cooler, works like a charm.
@@EsherAxe add a spigot, open it to make room and drop in some ice while you're in the lobby. Boom.
Easily portable too.
"With a dremel anything is compatible anything" is the single best tech tip I've ever gotten from this channel
"took a while but I got the cover off of my B550M AM4 motherboard and installed my new intel core i9 12400KF, I don't know why they keep the cover on those."
Its true!
“Came on, I don’t make the rules around here”
- the CEO
Welllllll...there is always Yvonne...
@@graveyj2000 is that the girl with pink hair who keeps screaming?
@@sanchitkarpe6576 Yvonne is linus' wife
@@vnicolescu oh
*come on
rofl. Loved the bucket water cooling. Pretty fun experiment and interesting results. Exactly what I would expect of you guys!
@@DGARedRavenLMAO!
Hi :D
Water wasn't extreme enough. They should've dunked it in mineral oil.
I don't know if that's an insult or a compliment xD
What is rofi?
Am I stupid?
"We're learning so many things today that will never be applicable to anyone else ever again." Isn't this what you do most of the time?
true
Reminds me of the school system
Someone said it!!!
@@MusicSounds LOL.
@@MusicSounds you see the difference here is that it's fun
love the editing lol. "you're not getting on the table Alex!" cuts to Alex fully on the table
"You're not getting on the table, Alex"
Next frame Alex is on the table.
Are you internet explorer?
When Linus said "You're not getting on the table, Alex", I knew that Alex would get on the table for sure. This is LTT after all.
@@Jamrocks2899 only he knows
Alex cannot be stopped, Alex only does Alex things
God damn it
This video is basically just Linus trying to re-invent custom watercooling
"What if we took heat fins, and put them in water"
"Hmm, adding a pump to move the water around would be more effective at cooling"
dont really need pump to move water around with that amount of water and heat source... convection current will do the trick.. but provide the surface of the water could cool down fast enough to prevent thermal throttling
@@victorng2996 It’s still more efficient to have a pump than a fucking bucket.
not really, it's inverting a water cooler. In normal water coolers the water is used to transport the heat away from the cpu into the fins which get air cooled by fans. Here he's literally using water as the cooler medium for the fins, if anything this is TRUE water cooling.
@@Zuilli completely agree. And eventually this system will gain temperature because it's just storing the heat in the water. Unless you bring in air to move the heat into the room, or water from the sink, it'll eventually gain temperature until equilibrium is reached (which would probably be at least room temperature)
@@NN-qj4sk well i said convection current thus the heat source has to be at the bottom o_o
13:41 Great idea allowing the guy notorious for dropping items to be leaning a Power Supply right over a container of water one handed while distracted opening a bag XD
I Expected "BOOM" every second ;) and a video how we fried our server with water ;)
"PREMIUM ICE"
"get the ingredients please"
Ingredients: WATER
What do you think premium ice is made out of ice 9? It's made of ice
Now this makes me think that somebody out there thinks that ice of higher numbers is made out of ice of lower numbers not the difference between charcoal and diamond
@@djchameleon6582 That's the joke.
@@djchameleon6582 That's the joke.
@@Gobbbbb I know I'm adding to the joke the first line is stating the obvious the second one's making another joke that fancier versions of water do exist just not really as a substance more of a structure
@@djchameleon6582 Ah sorry, reading text properly isn't a strong suit of mine lol.
It's always been funny to me that people pay a lot money for ice, especially when they take it home and put it in their freezer.
My mum does it and it bothers me so much, we even have ice trays 🙄
Major hardware water-cooled an air-cooler, he built an acrylic case for it too. It was a pretty cool video aswell
I was just about to say it too.
(Good thing I checked if there was already a comment about it. *Stares at the people who type essentialy the same comments repeatability on videos*)
That’s the guy who 3D prints fan made fans right?
It was an amazing concept.
@@willphillips2522 Yep, one of my fav shows on yt. Hes done some other fun experiments aswell.
Came to give Major Hardware a shout-out!
"We're NOT getting on the table Alex"
*Alex on the table less than one second later*
13:45 - this is a perfect summary of LTT. A dripping computer balanced on a plastic container while tearing a bag of ice open with the mouth.
I’ve seen so many comments about him opening bag with his mouth, what’s the issue here? How is this worth mentioning ?
@@Recline-0 It is hard to describe. There's something _undecent_ about it - Uncultured maybe. Like wearing socks in sandals.
"I was super excited about it until i had to actually touch it"
this could interpreted in another way
Omg 😂
Bro 😳
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That's what she said
Reminds me of Major Hardware and his water-cooling of an air-cooler some two years ago. Though he enclosed the fins with its own reservoir. Remember it worked, sort of.
He did a check up on that a little bit ago didn't he?
@MajorHardware
Yeah that's the first thing I thought of when I saw the title.
His was way more professional too. LTT could learn a few things from him.
@@sienile ...but then it would not be LTT.
@@katarjin - Sure it would, just with less of Linus torturing tech. :p
"dang, my mouse battery is dead, brb"
"dang, my water cooler bucket ran out of ice, brb"
was gonna give you a like, but then i saw you had 69 likes so i didn't want to ruin it. so here's 👍a thumbs up
@@snappedmzakeszar9877 was gonna give you a like, but then i saw you had 6 likes so i didn't want to ruin it. so here's 👍a thumbs up
@@AOmega72 lmao bruh HAHAHAHHQ
@@AOmega72 so here's 👍a thumbs up
@@centlytical was gonna give you a like, but then i saw you still had the same number of likes that the previous guy said so i didn't want to ruin it. so here's 👍a thumbs up
Computer flipped on its side, heatsink submerged in ice water. Clocking in at 8 degrees C.
Linus: I think we can do better.
"We are learning so many things that will never be applicable to anyone else ever again." sums up the whole vid.
Linus: I don’t make the rules around here.
Also Linus: **Is literally the CEO of the company and makes most of the rules**
CEO of the company, personally owns the building, wrote the script and decided what they are doing, AND this video was probably his idea in the first place. But he doesn't make the rules!
@@trapical nah I think they rent
@@trapical As the credits clearly say Alex actually wrote the script and as such presumaply was also the one whose idea it was.
@@trapical Linus doesn't do much ideas and almost no scripts other than of devices he personally tests. That's given considering he has specialised people for that kind of stuff
not anymore!
Mom: "Go and build a PC with the neighbors kids!"
The neighbors kids:
U deserve more likes
9:59^
@@John-hk3qs legend
@@John-hk3qs i just wanted to comment this
thats not what my mom would say!
Honestly, if you could find a more elegant and safe way to do it, literally just dunking the heat sink in water *could* potentially be a valid cooling option.
I feel like it might cause condensation on the electronics which isn't a good idea
What you ought to do is cover the heat sink in a plastic, waterproof frame and take a water pump which will continually drag cool water through the heat sinks. Basically it’ll be a safer version of water cooling.
Dunk the whole thing in mineral oil
God this is the most anxiety-inducing video from LTT I have seen in a few years....
No Sarah's pc build happened recently
Clearly you didn't see the car radiator liquid cooled build
@@DevanTavaresTV yeah that one
Excluding the Sarah build, omg that poor heatsink.
Excluding the Sarah build, omg that poor heatsink.
"Alex invited me to his superbowl party one time, that was nice of him!"
"Yeah, you brought your kids."
ahhahaha
NGL going with kids at the first date is kinda red flag.
You could totally make a silicon barrier between the water and the delicate bits that seals around the heat pipes and submerge your cooler in a circulating water feature. Like a lazy river through PC islands.
But if you are going to this length, at this point whats the points of even bothering with heatsink and water at all?
Just submerge whole pc into oil based non-conductive liquid designed specifically for this. This is what lot of miners do to save on power usage.
This is literally what the company did to publicize the motherboard lol, in gamer nexus video is shown
Also, might try placing the pump on its side (if possible) and directing the water output at the opposite wall, setting up a circulation pattern in the tank. Or a magnetic stirrer such as used in chem labs.
Just imagine a waterfall-like Build. Where the Water is running through the cooler. That would be dope!
This would actually work really well if you had a proper rubber seal between the back of the case and the reservoir that snugged around the heat pipes with silicone. Then you could have a case that's computer on top, sealed container of water on the bottom, with heatskinks going through the seal down into the water, and a pump to move around the water. In practice I think this would actually be safer and more effective than a regular water cooling setup because it's fail-safe: the water is always below the computer and cannot fall upwards.
I feel like it would work even better if a massive heatspreader like this one were enclosed with a pump inside of it to act as a big AIO. Circulating the liquid slowly from a big heatsync to a cooling reservoir and so forth would probably work so much better than current AIOs. This video really makes you think.
But for the safety part, you're absolutely right. This would be a lot better by what you said. I'm thinking more in terms of marketability and portability
@@infatuated9970 There's a simpler solution of just immersing the computer in a non-electrically conductive liquid.
@@LutraLovegood It isn't the same though. Because of the viscosity of mineral oil, it is less effective than water at pulling heat away.
Makes me wonder. would it be cheaper to just buy bags of ice for this kind of setup than whatever it costs to run an AIO pump haha
Weird shenanigans by Linus and Alex is always a great video
I did this as an electronics shop project in sophomore year of high school. I flex sealed a plexiglass box around a hyper 212 and put it into a water cooling loop. It worked really well until the box broke and water went all over the motherboard
Major Hardware did something similar though think he used aquarium glue.
“I don’t make the rules around here, Alex” - Linus, CEO of Linus Media Group
Yvonne does.
@@michaelkemmerer1 yep, the real CEO is always the woman in the room.
He was taking to Brandon.
oooops ___sheeesh
Lol
Forget buckets of water I was expecting something like a case with an integrated waterfall fountain running over the cooler.
This video gave me an idea. 1) fill a bucket with water. 2) put a heat sink in it, but with the mounting hardware above the water line. 3) put it in the freezer. 4) test how a block of ice works as a cooler.
Amusingly, my neighbor discovered that this ends very badly.
When water freezes into ice, it expands, and it will happily bend/warp/break delicate metal bits that are submerged within it, especially at the surface.
(I might have thoroughly enjoyed watching him prove me right about just how bad of an idea it was to try to do XD)
It depends on what metals are placed in. Material like whats in the heat sink inside a freezer will be fine.
best power economy 2021
Also Ice Water > Ice when it comes to cooling shit.
Many people don't realise this but ice water is always at the freezing point of water and is far superior when it comes to cooling because it's a liquid not a solid and thus far superior at dissipating heat. Ice may be able to reach sub freezing temperatures but at the end of the day you'd be better off creating a saline ice water solution.
If you want to get serious about cooling I recommend buying a block of dry ice and dissolving it in acetone/isopropyl-alcohol. You can easily reach -75°C that way.
A solid block of ice can actually insulate pretty well too, depending on whatever other environmental factors are involved.
“You’re not getting on the table ALEX”
Next cut: *is on table*
I dont think I've felt more stress watching a video then when Linus mixes water with a computer 😰
Same
ive broken three laptops trying stuff like this
why am i so dumb
The passive cooling heatsink would most likely work much better if it was mounted horizontal to the chassis, since the fins didn’t allow airflow to pass through the fins in this configuration.
I’m surprised you didn’t think of that
I mean... There is NO WAY it was supposed to work with flaps horizontally without any active cooling. That's just common engineering sense!
"With a Dremel, everything is compatible."
I believe that's going to go on a LTT t-shirt
If Ifixit started selling Dremels they'd be making millions in no time
I never buy merch but that might actually get me to give in
If it isn't on their planned merch list... it damn well should be ! XD
Original title before they change it: "We Water Coolee an Air Cooler!
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Got a screenshot!
3 hours and they still haven't knowticed.
I don't know how or why this doesn't have more attention
i noticed it like instantly
only og's will remember
14:48
"I don't make the rules around here Brandon."
- Linus Sebastian, CEO of Linus Media Group
LOL
Wife is the real boss and he knows it :P
Yvonne is who makes the rules
@@DocTime56 now we know who's the bos
But he doesn't have mechanical hands
Before you open the ice bag, you drop it on a hard concrete floor a couple of times, and that breaks up the ice.
Rick: “Well that’s just water cooling with extra steps!”
Technically, less steps. No tubes, reservoirs, or fittings to worry about. Just slap the heatsink on, fill a bucket with ice water, drop in a submersible pump, and you're good to go! No bleeding the loop, no fans to cable manage, and probably a heck of a lot cheaper too!
Not saying this is smart.. There are just less steps, and it's definitely unique so there's that. 😂
Omg yes XD
not to mentioned that you dont need fans anymore ,whats not to like, its water
some heatsinks have copper tubing and you can just pump water throw them and it will be both air and water cooled
@@FukkenDubben agree i did the water cooling verion of this back in 2010 and 2013 full guide and experiment details are on toms hardware froms
"I was super excited about it until I had to actually touch it"
That's what she said
😂
LMFAOOO
if youtube had comment awards, i'd give you one. thank you for your service o7
Nice catch!
"you're not getting on the table, Alex!"
*hard cut to alex on the table*
If you add salt into iced water it hits down to -17 degrees. It cant freeze above aswell. Might add salt next time.
This is the LTT content I've been missing. Just wish they would do benchmarks before and after
"I don't make the rules around here" - Linus, titular owner of his company
He’s a mad scientist of water cooling he doesn’t make rules, he abides them.. then bend them
5:20 give that person a raise. Balls of steel
It's Alex the Great
Would actually be pretty interesting in a double-wide case
3 things I really wish you had tried:
1) mount the water pump on the side of the tub, so the water flows through the fins of the cooler.
2) putting that massive cpu cooler that came with the MB on a GPU
3) rigging that motherboard for LN2. Seem like you might be able to mount a pot on there in a way that keeps condensation off of the board.
Could've mounted a noctua industrial fan on the heatsink lol
@@bacon.cheesecake gamernexus already did it
Major Hardware sends his regards :D
Edit: When you said you wanna come up with something more "usable", PLS do a colab with Major Hardware! He did something like this a while ago and he deserves it :)
+1 for Major Hardware
Was going to comment the same. :-P
"Where's your computer?"
"Inside the icebox over there."
I have a bucket here, also a waterpump for the pool outside. I just need that flipped motherboard.
Technically speaking, you could buy a marine type freezer kit, drill some holes in the provided heat sink, and put the coils from the freezer kit inside the cooler, then encase that in foam so you don't have to run it 24/7 and that would probably cool this to shits. It wouldn't be feasible with a regular pc, because that would condensate inside the sensitive areas, but with this, you could buy two sheets of copper sticker and put them on the case facing the cooler and on a separator board facing the case, killing off condensation.
TLDR this setup is the first setup that can be freezer cooled without running excessive lines away from the CPU.
"Submerged in water"
This is actually a superb way of designing mobos and CPU coolers imo, all the heat of the CPU is on a separate side, so the GPU and CPU is separated to allow for lower temps, less hot air mixing up in close proximity, plus the CPU cooler can then be designed to be spread out across the back of the mobo like the one in this video, add to that 1 or two jumbo 200mm fans, which are much quieter than smaller ones and move much more air, now you have the GPU in its own compartment being cooled and the hot air extracted, same for the PSU, and the CPU is separated at the back, pretty much the most refined ATX design we have seen so far, everything back in the day was huddled together in a tight poorly designed case, the PSU was right by the CPU which was right above the GPU, plus the north and south bridge and the memory, all that heat in close proximity can't be good for thermals, stability, machine life expectancy and so on.
Then they just have to work on some PC cases with this updated ATX form factor, one with a nice big separate area sealed off to isolate the CPU and it's cooler, this should end up with lower noise output as well.
5:22 the only time you get to hit your boss and he can't complain as he wasn't looking to be able to dodge it
Enjoy that very much i did.
Ahhh who does that?? 😂😂🤣
@@NoName-fo9ty precisely 😂
In the face
5:21
*I'm not gonna miss a chance to throw something at boss with no consequences*
That alone made this video worth watching
SURELY this is the reason to bring back the Mineral PC? We can start calling Luke ‘slick’ again!
oooooo good one
Yes
They should re do a “mineral oil” build with 3M Novec engineering fluid it’s used in servers to submerge the racks and cools components quite well
Yeah was thinking the same thing. They need to make another mineral oil cooler build , it's been years since the last one
I was thinking the same thing. Mineral oil builds were so cool. Haven't seen that for ages
Here is an idea, get a top dropping ice machine, port a hole at the bottom where ice/water would collected then feed that same cooler block from inside and stick the cpu connecting part out, seal and connect and run to your hearts content, install a nactua water poof fan from inside the ice maker blowing inwards from left or right to vise versa to keep water flowing through the fins.
Now you would use your current case along with the same cooler and only need the super cheap ice machine, additionally you could drill two port holes on the lid and connect fans inside pointing out to blow outwards, which would provide a little bonus AC to your immediate area.
Real ogs remember who sealed a heatsink in a plastic box filled with water before Linus did this lol
Major Hardware for those who are interested
Linus steals every good idea out there & uses it ... guy has zero talent around him & zero individual thought ... sheep in wolves clothing
First thing I thought wen I saw the thumbnail on this video. :P
@@communistgooglepartybolshe5511 what'll you do cry about it?
@@communistgooglepartybolshe5511 to be fair it's not the same design, but the same concept, still though would be cool if LTT with its bigger budget could make what MH made but more reliable and better designed for the water flow.
Linus you can revisit the "whole room cooling" again with these reverse PC's all coolers touching the wall, into a copper piping that Luke's dad installed.
You guys should credit major hardware too, he did a full water loop using a 212 and some rads
And tested it again a year later and it still worked!
Yeah they should credit him
Who ?
And he did it a long time ago so this isn't even a question that needed answering.
if you were worried about metal dust contamination and such, you could run it as a closed system, where the intake for the system was ported in from an ac unit or refrigerator/freezer that was pulling air in from outside. you might need to seal the electronic components, as constant exposure to that kind of cold air could cause moisture buildup, perhaps the cooling box could contain a small dehumidifier. this would obviously consume a lot of power, but would be a practical solution that wouldn't see a computer sitting so close to a vat of water.
“You’re not getting on the table, Alex” *cut to Alex on said table*
7:17 Literally panicked for Linus almost ripping off that memory slot in the way he holds the entire thing
Really surprised to see that actually
I'm 99% sure RAM slots can support the weight of a motherboard as long as you aren't shaking it... The board is not exactly heavy.
@@danieljensen2626 the weight of a mb yes but there was a massive heatsink behind the board, that's why i'm so concerned because that is really heavy - really just look at how bent that slot is, and the angle of both memory sticks. it's not even a metal reinforced slot like we've been seeing on some high-end boards these days
Linus - submerges the NHD-15 into a bucket of Ice Water.
Noctua - "He did what? . . . . . Linussssssssssssssssss!"
Noctua Tech - "Can we make that work for real?"
Major Hardware actually did!
@@Deses Actually, that was a great video where he built the enclosure to basically make the heatsink into a super efficient water block. Linus, with all that workshop gear could have done an amazing version of that without nearly shorting out a system in the process.
i wish youd revisit this idea and build an eclosure for a standard tower cooler to be water cooled with pumps and whatnot.
yeah its a great concept for an heat exchanger.... and then we call it hmm maybe "radiator"😐
This is the reason why people love Linus and his team, we love seeing him struggling on what he do best, playing on those techs, doing the unusual stuffs... and WTH that water splash almost gave me a heart attack
13:47 - I love how Linus talks about how he employees a bunch of people and then he tries to balance a pc on a plastic bin with one hand and open ice with the other. Classic Linus Butter Tips.
This is like that old Major Hardware video combined with GN's coverage of this motherboard/case.
"We are learning so many things today that will never be applicable to anyone ever again."
-Linus
These "Top Gear" Projects are always my favourite.
TONOIGHT ON LTT:
Linus eats a plastic bag
Alex climbs on a table
and James says "cow"
Yeah you just explained why I love these so much
Same here ! i really enjoy them
The reverse mount CPU is such an innovative option for people wanting to build passive cooling solutions or manage cooling in their machine. I'm imagining a lot of crazy build you could do with this! Hopefully more manufacturers make this an option!
“I don’t make the rules around here, Brandon”
- The man who most certainly makes the rules.
Nah. The one who makes the rules is a woman. Her name starts with Yv and ends with onne.
@@georgf9279 what a bright observation from someone who's probably never been to LMGHQ, not to mention actually working there
@@matnovak and very accurate. Yvonne and someone else (I cant remember who) basically run the backbone of lmg
@@_._shinonome_._ not rly, having a spreadsheet with appointment dates isn’t much. She’s just a nepotism hire.
@@NN-qj4sk you can actually save on taxes by hiring your own family members for your business. It's not a "nepotism hire" lol
9:57 The Best moment in LTT history!
“I don’t make the rules around here Brandon”
Yes, we all know Yvonne is Linus’s boss.
I love when Alex and Linus get to gether and do insane stuff like this. This was the craziest thing yet though! Wow!
Watch whole room water cooling
@@nicofish1000 that was insane
@@Sencess Yep linus is a madman. Makes me wonder what he would do if Yvonne didnt keep him in check. Granted it's for the best whole room water cooling was a bit much
Brendon - "this is so stupid."
Linus - " yeah well, I don't make the rules."
Me - " Umm. Aren't you the founder and CEO of the company?"
Obviously not. He is a product of the company.
Exactly, he's the CEO. He's not in charge of things like that. He has other people for things like that. My guess is that Yvonne and Nick are the ones who actually make the rules in LMG.
@@LaDeXi yeah but still. Linus Media Group is his company and he is the face of it. He himself has a say on most of the videos that they do, I'm sure. After all its his reputation on the line so he must be controlling content and the actions of staff in episodes to some degree.
@@spawngaming3261 Yes, to some degree, so your right on a technicality by 15% and the joke is right on a technicality by 85%. the COO actually comes up with the rules and the CEO signs off on them. I guess always being right to some degree is the funniest joke of all time /SARCASM.
You'd probably want to find a way to have the fins on the heatsink oriented vertically for better convection
Next project: Watercooling a watercooler watercooled pc
dis some mrbeast lvl stuff right here
@literally ur dope can you stop spamming junk
I've always wondered why no motherboards allow you to utilize both sides for components so that you can manage space more easily.
There are already some motherboards that allow you to install an m.2 drive on the back. The main reason why manufacturers usually don’t put other slots on the back is because traditional cases don’t have the space behind the motherboard to fit things like a ram slot.
There's already enough space on one side for 99% of use cases. If they used both sides it would only increase their costs and make it a pain in the ass to assemble while also forcing you to buy a WIDE computer case.
@@SwervingLemon It would be good for anything smaller than micro-ATX. Imagine having a mini-ITX with 4 PCIe x16 slots.
@@ajhauter5049 the Mini ITX spec doesn’t allow for that though
This is why
Oh sweet, a new Major Hardware video!
"Hey wait a minute I've seen those before?"
"How? It's brand new!"
This is so much like inception but just so wrong
I was looking for this comment
Came looking for this comment . I am satisfied.
@@TheEvil909295 🙌
I love these cooling vids. maybe they can do one on "is it possible to make a dry ice cooler?"
Now that bucket full of water is how you use your heat energy from the computer efficiently to cook your food after some heavy gaming.
WHILE you are gaming XD
@@Heinz76Harald Expert level 😉
KFConsole has nothing on this solution for ramen gaming.
Sous vide your steak while you game
I heavily doubt you would cook, but heat your food is possible
Over the years, they've done some pretty jank and dangerous things, but DAMN this takes the cake by a mile
whole room watercooling?
@@bxn4l I dont think that was very jank. It took a lot of effort, and was pretty custom, but, it wasnt leaking or anything like that
The original Chiller was more dangerous with the exposed capacitors if I rememebr correctly.
Sitting a MacBook with the bottom resting on a water surface to cool it, building multiple very jank versions of air and water cooling blocks including a very poorly cast one they made out of aluminum, reusing the parts from a mineral oil submerged pc. This is honestly pretty simple compared so many of the other jank things they have done.
5:20 there's only 1 right thing to do when your boss attempts a no-look catch.
I think a magnetic stir bar in the bottom of the tub would have made the water flow better or a very gentle wave machine to get water and air contact with the fins
Linus in other videos: "Look at how many people work for me!" Linus in this video: "I'm the only person who can be in this video holding a computer balanced on 2 plastic tubs filled with water"
I was literally cringing watching his assistant balance the computer at 14:11
I mean, it's his shit, so yeah I'd rather he be the one using it around water.
With the electricity and water linus just wanted to take the risk to ensure the safety of his employees cause thats the kind of man he is. Nah i kid he totally had dude hold the computer that is plugged in to mains above buckets of water after trying to crush that mans dreams of climbing on the table.
Lol, yeah, watching him balance a computer over a tub of water while struggling to open a bag of ice was one of the most risky things I've ever seen on this channel, haha.
I really hope Jay gets his hands on one of these. It would make his sub-ambient and cryo-cooling attempts so much easier.
"Its not stupid if it works" best line ever lol
Define "works"...
@@guiorgy 16:22
Its about to not to if you keep tilting that computer over a pool of water
When I was a kid I won a science fair by running performance tests on a junk computer with air cooling vs dry ice directly on the heat sink lol. This brought back memories.
Dry ice smoked it right?
it shouldnt since dry ice turns directly to gas @@brentongilmore5853
every mobo should be like this. it would make keeping your components clean so much easier and it would probably work really well at dissipating heat
Linus: “it’s really splashing Alex”
Alex: 😬
there is a "thing" about these type of LTT video's that take me back to '90's LAN parties at about 5am when crazy ideas seem like the right thing to do
i love how quickly you realised that "no look catch" with a screwdriver was a bad idea 🤣
6:04 Regarding the missing CMOS battery, I guess is because the shipping policy in China -- absolutely no battery for air shipping! If you want to ship it with the battery, you have to choose ocean shipping, but that means you have to wait a few months to receive the product.
I've been continuously surprised at how well regular ass hardware holds up to dust. We've got a client who does architectural steel and most of their shop systems are basically coated in iron filings and yet despite being normal ass optiplexes they basically all still work fine.
On a related note, I'm constantly surprised by how well modern hardware holds up to Linus... He does all the things I grew up learning to NEVER do, yet it all mostly works out. Goes to show you just how resilient modern computer hardware is
@@TjPhysicist Whenever I build a PC I always think I probably broke something, then I boot it up and everything works perfectly lol.
"It's a lot better than having them flop around like a lot of other guys do" - linus Sebastian 2021
Than
I love that i read this before watching this video so it was absolutely out of context :D
@@timplacke1521 the best context is no context
Ah yes of course :D
11:50 "I just need to... need to... Oh god!"
I just noticed, happy 10th anniversary to Linus and Yvonne!
Today the thought occurred that maybe it is possible to make a passive cooled setup with a mineral oil / transformer oil mister setup in order to "water cool" the passive cooling. I think that would work too. With a non conductive liquid mist cooling you theoretically have a sealed case too.
Major Hardware actually did the whole "Water Cooling an Air Cooler" thing Two years.. That being said it was an awesome series of videos and I'm glad to see it expanded on by another TH-camr that I enjoy watching! Just needed to give credit where it's due! Here is a link to Major Hardware's original video: th-cam.com/video/bXFxuqzLu1Q/w-d-xo.html
Cheers!
Yes I agree it was a pretty good series. :)
This isnt a unique patented idea. What credit?
People being doing dumb shit like this way before any youtuber .....acting like major hardware the first dude to ever do this..
Hell that wasn't crazy enough, he also did an "Air Cooling a Water Cooler" replacing the radiator and fans with a weird 3d printed bucket fountain nuclear cooling tower thing. The stupid thing worked. I thought it would do nothing but it worked. And the clockwork fan worked, I thought it would blow to pieces and it was loud as hell but it worked. WTF
This is actually a repeated video altogether and is not new one that LTT uploaded today at all. I remember seeing this exact one last month.
Having seen this idea be properly done a long time ago, and already knowing it works when done right, I am glad to see you guys give it a try in the same spirited "winging it" fasion, as usual :)
Yeah, MajorHardware did this ages ago. It's a shitty but workable solution if you somehow have access to all of the other watercooling components but can't get a CPU block.
"What Happens if you Water Cool an Air Cooler?"
It gets wet.
I'm betting you that the people who designed this also designed a special case for it where the heat sink could radiate the heat onto the case which would then get wicked away by the air.