@@DUMBDUDEGAMER that would be cool but I think it would turn out like the lan party on the top of the mountain, which if you didn't see, didn't really end the best
@@psycl0ptic i think he's on about when they set up wifi for their parents or someone, across a lake, as well as from one of his own buildings to another and got roughly 6Gbps
@@DuyNguyen-yx2vd He reminds me of one of my friends that I used to work with in an IT R&D datacenter doing support and I've had to remind him several times that he shouldn't always make miracles happen because it sets a bad precedent and expectation that most of the other support team can't live up to.
“You with the city” “Naw we just have a building and are running a cable” “Oh thanks man we’ve tried and it’s been hard” What a good Canadian conversation
In the US it would've been some karen coming out complaining that they didn't have a permit, are disturbing the peace, etc... and would've called the cops
TLDR: Don't do 3 ports on your LAG between sites. For your "future proofing" I would advise against doing 3 ports in an LACP LAG/Port channel. The load balancing algorithm is only optimal in powers of 2. So 1, 2, 4, or 8 is good and 3, 5, 6, or 7 will be sub-optimal. There are 8 subqueues of the load sharing algorithm for the LAG which are assigned to members whenever a port came up in the LAG group. Traffic is allocated to the subqueues in a round robin manner. Using 100Gbps ports, the following summarizes the allocations and effect: 2 ports - each port get 4 subqueues - bandwidth is 2x100Gbps = 200Gbps (2x 100Gbps flows) 3 ports - two get 3, one gets 2 - bandwidth is 2x100Gbps, 1x67Gbps = 267Gbps (2 x 100Gbps, 1 x 67gbps flows) 4 ports - all get 2 subqueues - bandwidth is 4x100Gbps = 400Gbps (4 x 100Gbps flows) 5 ports - 3 get 2 subqueues, 2 get 1 subqueues - bandwidth is 3x100Gbps. 2x50Gbps = 400Gbps (3 x 100Gbps, 2 x 50Gbps flows) 6 ports - 2 get 2 subqueues, 4 get 1 subqueues - bandwidth is 2x100Gpbs, 4x50Gpbs = 400Gbps (2 x 100Gbps, 4 x 50Gbps flows) 7 ports - 1 get 2 subqueues, 6 get 1 subqueues - bandwidth is 1x100Gbps, 6x50Gbps = 400Gbps (1 x 100Gbps flows, 6 x 50Gbps flows) 8 ports - all get 1 subqueues - bandwidth is 8x100Gbps = 800Gbps (8 x 100Gbps flows) Because a data stream/flow can only go over one link at a time, no one user will ever see more than 100Gbps. If the flow decides to go over the port that has an odd number of subqueues, they will max at less than 100Gbps on that flow. I worked at an ISP and one of our customers insisted on having 3x10G connections for their transit and were mad when they only were utilizing a max of 26.7gbps of what they thought should have been 30Gbps.
@R Hamlet You could certainly have a 3rd line physically connected, just dont have it as an active member of the LAG until there is a damaged line. Adding the 3rd line creates the imbalance of the load sharing algo as described in the original comment.
@R Hamlet Overall total throughput (shared between multiple users/data streams) could be faster (267gbps vs 200gbps) but you would also run the risk of having an individual data stream limited to 67gbps. Any single user will never have a speed test over 100gbps and the unlucky user who's data stream goes over the third link will never be over 67gbps. Most providers or large enterprises dont want to have inconsistencies like that in their network (someone will randomly get the 3rd link that has lower speeds). For a home/small enterprise network like this it wouldn't hurt. It is just something to be aware of and will explain why some users randomly will only max at 67gbps on their "300gbps lag". Imagine trying to troubleshoot this if you didn't know about suboptimal load sharing in LAGs, it would be a nightmare lol.
@R Hamlet I have never seen any cable runs that were odd numbers unless one pair got damaged. So you would have to run 2 extra or be forced to do two runs which would be double.
@@williamjohnson4297 "but you would also run the risk of having an individual data stream limited to 67gbps." Like any machines they have connected could ever come close to that speed.
I understood the need for all of the writers, editors and camera operators. I knew that the business team had to deal with a lot of things too. I didn't realise that part of the reason LMG has to work without Linus is that he'll spend a day crawling through bushes. Imagine someone asking you where the CEO of the company is and you have to point to someone landscaping out back. Love it.
@@Dimage666 It'd be like filming a humming bird. Just imagine a guy in a suit worth more than you make in a month, on his knees pulling cables. That's Dan. Also he drives an I8 and somehow managed to fit more stuff in there than you can fit on your car
I installed Fiber Optics from the very beginning of its introduction until I retired 5 years ago. The only time I sustained damage was when an apprentice flipped it up into the air and popped it on the ground to try and unloop it. Shattered over 100 feet. Cut and splice time. Overpulling destroys it. Slow and easy is the rule. It is very sturdy when handled properly and never dropped. Love the stuff for distance. Now I prefer point to point microwave for less than a mile.
@@BlackViperMWG We didn't see them clean and inspect the fibre ends. Or don't know if the light levels are within spec for the XFPs (giving the distance and specs at the start of the video it 'should' be ok) as for handling of the fibre those cables are pretty durable so though bush bashing with them isn't recommend, it probably didn't do them any harm. Leaving the drum out in the rain is pretty standard practice (for subcontractors)
@@BlackViperMWG As an electrician in the US. It works, thats everything he did right. Him as the owner, (speculating here) he is not required to follow the cascade of rules that we as professionals need to, which leads into the "wrong" part. This part I am limited in my knowledge, but one thing that I can say for sure is that, since the cable is easily accessible, and susceptible to damage from external factors, that it needs to be in conduit, or placed where it can not be accessed by "normal" means. Basically, since he ran it in some bushes, if he was trying to make this a permanent setup, he would have to bury it, or place it in conduit, to protect it. That is probably the biggest thing. Then, he would need a permit for such project, and pay all relevant taxes, thousands in conduit (pvc would work). It would have to be buried at least two feet below ground, which where he was, you "could" do it by hand. Bah, this is turning longer then it needs to be. Basically there is a lot of red flags that need to be addressed to "officially" make this a reality, and a lot more than just the cable. God I love my job sometimes. lol
@@JoshuaCasey Another time and place for vertical video, for me, is if the primary purpose of the recording is to capture the moment/memory and not necessarily share online for viewing on horizontal displays. Vertical framing sometimes lets you get more relevant stuff into the shot, especially in tight spaces. Even in this video, we were able to see more of Linus and get a better idea of what the context was and what he was doing when the orientation was vertical.
@@sntslilhlpr6601 Been there - done it to myself - like going from horizontal to vertical and back several times in one clip. Later I swear at myself while cutting, zooming, uprezzing and crossfading ....
As a infrastructure engineer that has worked with fiber optic deployments and DWDM it was interesting to watch you do this. One of the things you should consider getting is an OTDR. That would allow you to characterize the cable, measure things like Chromatic Dispersion and it would tell you the quality of the glass used. It's also helpful in telling you if/where a break is exactly on your fiber. I would suggest a video series on OTDR and your experiences with it.
I worked a job where we tested our spare fibers in the fall and spring when it was frozen the deepest. This was in an area that the fiber ran across the Arctic Circle.
Linus: This is a temporary deployment Linus 6 years later on WAN show: Remember that fibreoptic cable between the two offices which we said we'd only use temporarly as a proof-of-concept? Yeah we used that for the last couple of years no problem.
@@alexr2761 They probably just frame it as temporary so non of the land owners, city, landlords complain. And in a couple of weeks, everyone will have forgotten about it. They might burry the ends and thats it.
you should try working in an old city like Philadelphia. imagine running cable through alleys that haven't been cleaned in decades. having people threaten you with guns, dogs and running brand new cable over meth labs. Then having to go back in later and fix the cable because it got melted by a meth lab catching fire. Sometimes I think I should write stories about the s*** I saw there.
Respect for taking the head role in this and leading the charge. I could have easily see CEO of any other company showing up, filming his bit at the end and in the beggining of the pull and letting people on a payroll deal with the hard part.
@@heliumnetworking5103 I don't watch Linus regularly so I'm missing whatever you're hinting at. Does Linus not work anymore or just come to the office for the video shoots? Does he treat his employees terribly or something?
My brother is an arborist/landscaper and I’ve worked with him many times. This is very hard work working through thick brambles/spiked vines. It’s exhausting, it’s hot (at least in Australia), it’s dirty, and you get scratched and filthy. You come home and there’s dirt in places it should NEVER be. Great job lads.
@@Wolan. They probably don't have written permission from all the land owners & businesses that it's crossing. And getting that permission would take lawyers and a lot of renting fees. Which is why they were quoted a crazy price to have another company do the same so of run.
If it does break use Optical Time Domain Refractometer to find the break. They are really accurate now, down to the linear foot of the fracture even if you're miles away. (2:03) Linus said he didn't know how to find a break in the fiber if it should occur during installation or handling.
It's probably super vague. I work as an IT admin and my employment contract says 'works as an IT admin and - if needed - other equivalent tasks within his skills and capabilities'. I'd have to really change tracks for my work to no longer fit the contract.
Actual Logistic job posting: "Must have a sense of humor and a positive, get it done attitude" Read: "Excellent 'chirping from the bench' must match competence level. Individuals with a respect for authority figures need not apply."
@@Steamrick Yeah, in business-critical functions such as IT these days, you might be required to do practically anything to get the job done. I've been there, done that!
That's more of a Colin Furze kind of thing. Apparently the next stage of home tunnel project is to make a personal bat-cave for his car to be lowered into on a lift.
@@izzard An edited 15 minutes... He was probably actively working for alot more than 15 minutes to get through that brush. They aren't going to film every uneventful, silent second of him crawling through that crap. I hope that wink is a sign of you just trolling.
@@izzard I don't watch Linus regularly so I'm missing whatever you're hinting at. Does Linus not work anymore or just come to the office for the video shoots? Does he treat his employees terribly or something?
Kudos to Jake for using a RAM disk to benchmark the network. It's nothing new but it was a smart and quick thinking to have on the spot to solve the problem at hand which was to benchmark the network/connection. ❤
What makes you think that he came up with that on the spot? You know that they plan these videos? And how to test the speed is part of that pre-planning.
Can we just take a minute to appreciate Jake. He seems to have turned into one of the most valuable member of LMG. From converting Linus' house into a tech paradise, to being the go-to guy when keeping all the new buildings connected. Well done Jake.
I’ll be honest, Jake makes me cringe a little especially back in previous videos at linus’s house (if I was yvonne I’d be saying a big FU😂) slating things and overall slightly egotistical… clearly he knows his stuff but that’s my two cents
While I fully agree that Linus should be wearing a helmet for everyday tasks, skipping the hard hat and wearing protective glasses would've done a lot more in the PPE department.
I oversaw the installation of a fiber network for a school district through the 2000's. It took several years, but we built a 30 mile fiber network. It was so great to turn that on.
One of my sisters works at a company that lays down fiber optic cables over long distances. She got her kid a summer job there a few years back, and listening to her describe how bad he was at the job was always hilarious. He once spent over an hour trying to roll up a cable, only for someone else to undo all of his work and then fully roll up the cable in less than 5 minutes. That said, having him around was actually quite useful for the company because it turns out that hard labor tends to result in larger men that can't fit down the "hole". My nephew on the other hand, didn't have any trouble fitting down the hole, so they did have a use for him.
@@theenzoferrari458 back then, probably not. Now, I sure hope so. I'm not 100% sure, but I think one of his most frequent gigs since then has been is in construction. You would need to be really, really bad at a job in order to not pick up any skills over the course of a few years.
Same shit basically happened to me when I started doing stage tech work, I'd start rolling a cable, not in the worst way, but my boss came and said "we don't roll cables like this at (company name)" and redid all my work faster than I did it the wrong way. But ya gotta learn somehow.
What I love about Linus is his pure excitement for IT. He is not the "know it all guy" but he will try the best he can to figure it out with the help of his employees.
@@Dimage666 Exactly, the smart management/owner doesn't need to know everything, just enough to make sure they employ the people who do - and then give them the support they need to do their jobs. This is one of the reasons many businesses fail - especially after new owners/management take over - because they don't understand this, especially the latter bit!
"We stole this computer from the keyboard testing robot", and thus by issuing this specific sequence of words for the first time in all history, Linus inadvertently brings about the apocalypse. It's hard not to be caught up with the camaraderie and enthusiasm of the team on this endeavour. This also shows the tenacity that has helped to turn LTT into the force that it is, hats off.
I'm 100% certain they are keeping this and made a company-wide pact to never mention the connection between HQ and lab. The whole "we are pulling it back" stuff is a decoy. Man, I know I would, if I could.
@@Great.Milenko As long as it's good enough for legal teams to not be up their asses. They don't wanna really fool anyone but just have plausible deniability of unofficially laying new cables through other peoples yards
i agree. they're totally doing this. i just don't know about the tripping liability of the cable in the woods. it's one thing if someone trips on a tree trunk, but it's another to trip on a linus media group fibre cable
If we have deliberately breaking them at 0, and extremely pedantic absolute best practice no exceptions no slip ups at 10, am I right in thinking this video is about a 3 in terms of fibre handling?
I'm glad you pointed out that this was entirely for the memes. If it wasn't already blatantly obvious to anyone else watching, there is functionally zero difference between what they did, and just keeping the completely intact spool in a single office and testing the speed by connecting both ends in the same room.
@@Likeomgitznich I wonder what the cost of 600m of that right of way would be edit: I feel like the equipment wouldn’t be exorbitantly costly to trench and backfill to however deep the regulatory requirement would be. It’s flat ground. Is that area rocky?
Parhaps? I’ve not heard of it. It has to be spooled. How else would you store or transport it? I know some stock exchanges and seducers t applications intentionally spool miles of fiber to test artificial run length or to actually create latency
As a guy, who studied fiber communications in high school, worked at a sub-contractor for the big telcos in my country, and now in one of the big telcos as a fiber planning and implementation intern (which for me ends next week), this video brings back memories about what I’ve done before when I used to run cables through trenches and ducts + splicing them lol.
I've got that same switch on order, it's a real game changer! Affordable enough for (slightly crazy) homelabbers, solid enough for (slightly hacky) businesses.
That's some serious speeds and I'm surprised at how affordable the cable and equipment actually is. I have a 40 acre property and now I want to run fibre from on end to the other just because I can.
Same, I've been looking at that MikroTik switch for a while but it's still in short supply where I am so I can't order it yet. But I guess it's still possible to lay the fibre and just start at 1 or 10 gigabit until stock of the 100G switch becomes available.
@@Berkeloid0 The fibre does not care about speed. A 10G fibre trx can be obtained for under 10$. Mikrotik switches with 10G sfp+ are also very affordable.
@@higihups Yep, that's what I meant by "lay the fibre and start at 1 or 10G", then you can upgrade to 100G using the same fibre when the 100G is available to buy
I work for a telecoms company in England and it’s great seeing the equipment I work on in videos like this! Also glad you appreciate the work the cable gangs do, they do such a hard job!
didn't your toe nails curl aswell at 6:11 ? pulling a cable during it's whole length through the tiny opening between fence and the non-rounded edges of the fence mounting? this metal is going to have field day rusting due to the outer mantle being scratched. just take the time to properly dismantle the fence, pull the cable through, and put the fence together afterwards. cable guy from germany.
@@andresmithe298 would you be so kind as to link me to my enlightenment? don't want to come as cocky but i am not for information without the point to it. since i obviously did miss it then. thank you (=
Fiber-guy from germany here. I usually do the connections between cable sections (dunno how you guys call these things in english) and the final meassurements/certification. Usually on 96' and 144' fiber cables. It's cool to see them have some fiber on camera :D
@@deinemudder3066 I'm not going to re-watch a half hour video. They said it repeatedly, they were doing this for jokes once they saw how cheap the cable was and explicitly said it was temporary...
I do similar Point-to-Point installs as yours. I use a 27" minitrencher machine (look it up) to dig a small 2" trench and drop the fiber in afterward. Could be useful once your proof of concept is done. The machine can even fit on a plane once disassembled.
This channel is insane. There is no other channel with such insane content. It's like it took all of the freak shows from old discovery channel, and multiplied them by 100
@@spankbuda7466 the company I work for is running new construction across rural America to get high speed internet to people who need it. Been working with this company for over 5 years now, and have been working on the same contract. Our office runs about 6 crews. All the crews together get about 20 miles of fiber installed a week. Some of the fiber reels we work with are 20,000 foot worth of fiber, which we have to run as one continuous piece, for max speed. The biggest fiber cable I've ran is a 288count fiber, meaning that there is 288 stands of fiber optic line inside the cable.
@@akanitrix9079 That sounds highly unlikely for any company to run FREE fiber service through rural parts just so a small percentage of potential households could have high speed internet. I'm near some rural parts that the cable company refuses to extend their service lines to the few homes not only charging them a ridiculous fee but having them sign a lengthy long term contract.
As a fiber optic cable tech/installer, I gotta say I never thought of this method to install cable, usually we just put it in conduit and split runs up with boxes… you guys are way ahead of the game!
They actually are working on 400gbit BiDi (bidirectional) transceivers that would allow this cable to do 2.4Tbit a second. They make use 2 different wavelengths for send and receive, allowing you to utilize 1 strand of fiber for an entire connection. 1/2.5gbps BiDi transceivers are common in FTH deployments. They do have 100gbit BiDi transcievers available today, although they're pretty pricey ($4600 for a pair of transceivers).
Yeah a product I worked on in 2018 could do 1.2 Tbps BiDi on a single fiber easily. Now we have QSFP pluggables that do 800G and a 2.4Tb module coming soon. 100Gbps is not a challenge anymore lol.
@@iinsomniaaaaa I was working on a SM connection between 2 floors at our data center for a customer. They kept getting a small reflectance that was really messing with their connection. I asked them how much they were using, Gigbit, 10 Gig, 100 Gig, 300 Gig? She said it was a 4 Terabit connection using transport gear. I found the issue in a dark fiber panel and got them cleaned. I just could not believe how much they had going through 1 strand. Now that the transport gear is more common in the data center, it is like nothing now.
The absolute best videos come from linus and jake bantering and figuring out stuff around the shop and their houses, I honestly cant get enough of those type videos.
Used to install the conduit that fiber runs through, we did an insane run under the intracoastal in Clearwater,FL that everyone swore was impossible with a Vermeer 40/40, had to bring in trailers of drill pipes and load/unload them by hand. We got it done.
I sincerely don't care about cable running, I'm watching the entire video solely because everyone at LTT is entertaining and funny, generally likable people, them being my age range probably helps, I could watch these guys do anything, should be an extra channel of LTT crew doing random anything, I'd watch for sure
The white stick coming out the end is a strength member used to hold the cable in place when it’s fed into a node in the ground. So the weight of the cable is on the member rather than the fibres
This man is officially my superhero, seeing my dreams and fantasies come to life through a dude with a passion, I absolutely love it!!! Best channel so far!
Fun fact: you can figure out where the break is. Send a pulse down the fiber and it'll reflect partially from the break. In case there is one, that is. For bush removal I'd suggest shrapnel.
I remember when Linus was unboxing high end PC cases in a park with a camcorder and now he has 2 industrial grade buildings with a whole lot of professional staff members
Three actually, although I honestly think it might be 4. 5 side-by-side units in building 1 (4 for main office, connected, and 1 with a firewall between it and main that is the workshop) OldLab (that is now Creator Warehouse, in a industrial park right next door to park 1, with a dedicated beamformed wireless link to main office) NewLab (with this fibre run), and I think he has another 1 unit in the same industrial park but different building as Main HQ that is for logistics warehousing? Don't quote me idk what the *possible* 4th building was used for, but I thought I remembered him having 2 wireless dishes on the roof of Main before he bought newlab
Something I love about Linus is that there you have the guy, the CEO of the business running that very TH-cam channel! In the literal trenches with his team. That's a great example to follow!
Linus will never ask his employees to do something that he wouldn't do himself, which is nice. Unfortunately for them, Linus has a lackluster sense of self-preservation.
It's at least commercial-grade. If you ever want something to "just work" you buy the commercial-grade product. Consumer-grade is often literally designed to break.
Now imagine the nerds who designed the first trans-atlantic fiber optic link in 1988, they must've been jumping out of their skin to see that shit working
im a rural land surveyor. what linus dealt with in this video gave me some good laughs, reminds me of my own work... crawling through blackberry bushes and tickweed all day.
Addition to the brush tip. When dealing with something more sturdy like thistle, grab them below the mulch/soil line. There will be no thorns or they will be too soft to puncture.
I'm a fiber optic technician by trade. Needless to say this was hard to watch 🤣 Great job making it happen though. We live just getting stuff done. Also, a tip for the future: always pull a higher count fiber than you need. Just so you have more than enough strands for future expansion. I've seen it MANY times. A 6ct seems like enough and then down the line you find you need more strands. Food for thought. Great job guys. Cheers!
I would go the extra mile and put in a 24 or 48ct cable. But I would do it with direct bury, but with Mircoduct and blown fiber. Just laying a 2 or 4ct 7/4mm duct and blowing a single 24ct microcable would be enough for now and would leave room for expansion. And if the duct gets damaged the downtime is shorter by just blowing a new cable, than splicing in an outdoor enclosure or laying a new direct burial cable
@@katarjin yes blowing in the cable. It’s essentially a compressor that fills up a conduit with air. Then two little belts push the cable into the conduit. The cable rides on the air that’s filled the conduit and the person on the other end can just figure 8 it or coil it for the next run. Depending on the conduit size you can blow miles at a time. Way way better than pulling it in.
@@katarjin ya, inside a 14/10mm og a 12/8mm plastic tube. A machine that runs on air, pushes with about 4bar on some tracks through the machine, and blows air through the pipe at 14bar, and me and my buddy (we work as a fibee blowing team) we can blow a fiber cable 2500meters in one take, takes about 1hour
The shield of the fibre cable is a big lightning conductor. You need to bond each end of the cable to ground and stop it at the edge of the building so that you don't bring the lightning strike inside the building and not only kill the equipment but also create a danger to the people in the building. Switch to a patch cord at the building envelope and leave the shielded portion of the cable outside. Better yet - use an all dielectric version of the cable with no metal in it - much safer.
@@helljumper912 Well I mean they aren't keeping it...soooo they can buy a different one when they do it again... :) The Non-Armoured version is even cheaper.
@@tomjzed Yes definitely they sure are not "keeping" it.... I mean nobody would want that. They will definitely go the 1000$ / month method instead ....
I'm surprised your business complex doesn't have any underground conduits for joint telco access that you could run your fiber through. A lot of industrial parks run conduits rather than having the telcos/ISPs do it because they don't want the complex to be locked into a single vendor. Industrial parks and office complexes that do this usually run a conduit along the front of each row of buildings and then run out to the road where the telcos/ISPs can get access, so if you want telco A instead of telco B, they don't have to trench or run new aerial cable, they can just run through the conduit to get into your building.
I'm surprised they didn't just take the reel of cable to their server room and test it there. It's still 2300ft of cable. It's just wrapped around a reel. Video may have been shorter and not as much fun though 🤔
@@trigbagger This was possibly to show the city they could do it and demonstration puproses for others so they can get a proper permit approved. Or it was just for the vid. But I suspect the work to get through the brush was more than just for the video.
Literally just seeing this after a fibre deployment to 35 individual homes from a Fibre headend 40Km away here in Wales UK! We use a multimode fibre over these distances with a starting spine cable of 144 individual fibres, in theory (taking 'spares' out of the equation) each fibre can feed 32premises via a 32way splitter. Fibre is impressive stuff, and not as easily broken as you'd think! it has incredible tensile strength, but put a slight kink in a bare fibre and you'll see it snap with no force at all.
As a cable technician, you generally don’t run coax cable more than 400 feet unless necessary, you loose quite a bit of signal to get to 400 and then starting at 400 you loose an extreme amount, even using rg11
Not only does the metal casing on the "shielded fiber" add strength, it also allows utility locators to locate them when buried. Some fibers are not shielded though and require a separate wire for tracing.
I somehow get the feeling that the whole "this is only temporary and for testing" is a statement purely made for some legal reasons. It would be by far not the jankiest setup they've ever done.
He kinda gave it away at one point where he mentioned that other people would come after him and micro trench. You don't micro trench for a temporary test.
There is a german proverb: "There is nothing better than a good provisional install." A a work colleague has stickers that look like industry normed shields that spell "Long term provisional"
I can't help but think here in the states if someone came out and saw someone poking around in the greenbelt behind a business or home or something that the conversation would have been a lot different. There would have been police called, and a giant argument if it's legal or not to run a cable even if it's not hurting anyone eventually getting the city and the courts involved all stemming from the "hello?"
Learning that Linus grew up on a farm in the episode with his sister has helped explain SO MUCH about how he tackles certain tasks/challenges. His particular brand of go-get-em masculinity is definitely rooted in working long hard hours on a farm for sure. Reminds me of myself at times. He seems like the kinda guy that doesn't pussyfoot around challenges and will call anyone out that does.
I feel like Linus "worked" on the farm until he was 17 then got a job at a tech store and never looked back... Wait.... isn't that what actually happened? 😂
@@bentboybbz that may be the case but spending those formative years working with your family to run a family business essentially is real shit. just because he went off to do his own thing eventually doesn't negate the obvious work ethic he developed in those early years
@@djarumz as somebody who is a gardened and works with other gardeners, face protection is something that everybody knows they should wear but rarely do
Fiber optic cables are never classified by "PAIRS" but rather the strand count. Copper followed a pairing of Tip and Ring to make a PAIR of isolated conductors thus a "24 PAIR" telephone cable would have 48 conductors. You order fiber as a "48F" as in 48 fibers.
That might be true but when you're connecting to a consumer switch you need one strand in either direction, so the number of pairs tells you how many full-duplex links you can get over the cable which is what they were most interested in. It might not be the term the professionals use, but it's much more useful for their application.
@@Berkeloid0 or you could be wrong and assuming you are right. Show me one part number for any cable that has a "pair" designation on it. And you can get a full duplex link over 1 strand. It is called BiDi SFP. Uses different wavelengths on the same physical strand. I'll send you a picture of what date I became an FOA certified splicer and you send me a picture of your cracker Jack A+ certificate and let's see who has the experience to back their claims.
@@jeffreyburrows3562 Why do you suddenly need to prove you're a professional and question my qualifications? Of course I'm not qualified, and I'm not even disagreeing with you, I'm just explaining why they chose to describe the cable to viewers in terms of pairs, even though it's not the way the cables are sold. They were just explaining the cable in terms that made sense for their use case, nothing more.
@@Berkeloid0 I was actually just letting them know how to properly designate a fiber count for people that are watching this and potentially looking at a career in Telecom. You jump back in with your 2 cents saying it's ok to miss designate it. So yes I'm going to enlighten the viewers that I have the justification to correct their misunderstanding. Sorry your feelings are hurt, that doesn't really matter in telecommunications.
Imagine you're sitting there trying to do your work with a hard deadline that you have to meet tomorrow. Then Linus comes barging in with a banana coloured helmet, gardening gloves and a GoPro strapped to his chest yelling "COME HELP ME PULL THIS BLACK CABLE".
I am a fiber optic technician from South Africa , this was hilarious to watch thanx allot LTT . Unusually for runs like that we would either plant 7M poles ever 50M or bury it underground . One thing i must admit is that the pre terminated cable is not something i would have recommended for this run . Pull none terminated to each building into a joint / buddy box and then terminate at the box to where ever you need it . But thanx for this video , love seeing you guys work with things that some of us do for a living :)
I think here it may have been worth getting in touch with the local electrical utility, they already have poles in place that run immediately outside of both buildings. Lots of utility companies are amenable to sharing infrastructure with non competing uses to the point of having departments dedicated to negotiating such agreements. After all if they are not a competitor then it is just a way to cut costs by sharing the costs of maintaining those poles with another user that also needs the same thing you do but for a different business with an unrelated customer base so it is win-win.
It’s honestly so surreal to have you explain to me how to handle the local flora of my stomping grounds, I can totally relate to the whole “brushing motion” when grabbing the blackberries
Back in the Stone Age, they used to run the old Coax Cable for network runs. It was "lovingly" referred to as "Frozen Garden Hose". Needless to say, this fibre run is a lot more manageable comparable to the good old days.
Working with Mikrotik every day, I can truely say their stuff is really affordable given no license fees as well for their solid performance its totally worth looking into. Even the flexibility for various deployments just really pays itself of. Would be interesting if LTT would look into their CCR router range and maybe even use for the office or so.
Yeah, they should replace their current pfsense router with a Mikrotik CCR router. They said they have 10gig internet but their pfsense box seems to max out at 5gig. A Mikrotik router would be able to route 10gig just fine.
@@TandSylvester not as a firewall. if firewalling+queues it probably maxes at around 5gbps. if only firewall you can enable fasttrack and probably get well beyond 10 gpbs.
I clicked this video that has been sitting in my notifications for 4 days without any expectation to have this much fun, Dan is the enough amount of energy to counter Linuses without killing any mood, loved this adventure.
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I'm pretty sure no amount of distance, either land or water, can stop Linus from setting up wifi/ethernet.
I want to see him set up a lan party on the north pole.
@@DUMBDUDEGAMER that would be cool but I think it would turn out like the lan party on the top of the mountain, which if you didn't see, didn't really end the best
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there is no WiFi involved here, only optical signals.
@@psycl0ptic i think he's on about when they set up wifi for their parents or someone, across a lake, as well as from one of his own buildings to another and got roughly 6Gbps
Dan always sounds like he's got nothing left to lose and enjoys the freedom of that situation.
I love him. I hope we see him more!
Dan is just comedy gold!
@@curbyi76 he works with/for Linus, he must actually have nothing left to lose lol
Dan has this ability to just say whatever and I just trust him. Sometimes he's obviously lying and I'm still like "That guy knows things".
Dan's great we don't deserve him.
@@DuyNguyen-yx2vd He reminds me of one of my friends that I used to work with in an IT R&D datacenter doing support and I've had to remind him several times that he shouldn't always make miracles happen because it sets a bad precedent and expectation that most of the other support team can't live up to.
“You with the city”
“Naw we just have a building and are running a cable”
“Oh thanks man we’ve tried and it’s been hard”
What a good Canadian conversation
Haha.. Canadians being Canadians haha.. so calm and chilled
In the US it would've been some karen coming out complaining that they didn't have a permit, are disturbing the peace, etc... and would've called the cops
@@dalanoyo that’s exactly what I was about to say
Probebly checking first if he's not trespassing.
@@dalanoyo probably wouldve gotten shot
TLDR: Don't do 3 ports on your LAG between sites.
For your "future proofing" I would advise against doing 3 ports in an LACP LAG/Port channel. The load balancing algorithm is only optimal in powers of 2. So 1, 2, 4, or 8 is good and 3, 5, 6, or 7 will be sub-optimal.
There are 8 subqueues of the load sharing algorithm for the LAG which are assigned to members whenever a port came up in the LAG group. Traffic is allocated to the subqueues in a round robin manner.
Using 100Gbps ports, the following summarizes the allocations and effect:
2 ports - each port get 4 subqueues - bandwidth is 2x100Gbps = 200Gbps (2x 100Gbps flows)
3 ports - two get 3, one gets 2 - bandwidth is 2x100Gbps, 1x67Gbps = 267Gbps (2 x 100Gbps, 1 x 67gbps flows)
4 ports - all get 2 subqueues - bandwidth is 4x100Gbps = 400Gbps (4 x 100Gbps flows)
5 ports - 3 get 2 subqueues, 2 get 1 subqueues - bandwidth is 3x100Gbps. 2x50Gbps = 400Gbps (3 x 100Gbps, 2 x 50Gbps flows)
6 ports - 2 get 2 subqueues, 4 get 1 subqueues - bandwidth is 2x100Gpbs, 4x50Gpbs = 400Gbps (2 x 100Gbps, 4 x 50Gbps flows)
7 ports - 1 get 2 subqueues, 6 get 1 subqueues - bandwidth is 1x100Gbps, 6x50Gbps = 400Gbps (1 x 100Gbps flows, 6 x 50Gbps flows)
8 ports - all get 1 subqueues - bandwidth is 8x100Gbps = 800Gbps (8 x 100Gbps flows)
Because a data stream/flow can only go over one link at a time, no one user will ever see more than 100Gbps. If the flow decides to go over the port that has an odd number of subqueues, they will max at less than 100Gbps on that flow.
I worked at an ISP and one of our customers insisted on having 3x10G connections for their transit and were mad when they only were utilizing a max of 26.7gbps of what they thought should have been 30Gbps.
Right on par. Good information here.
@R Hamlet You could certainly have a 3rd line physically connected, just dont have it as an active member of the LAG until there is a damaged line. Adding the 3rd line creates the imbalance of the load sharing algo as described in the original comment.
@R Hamlet Overall total throughput (shared between multiple users/data streams) could be faster (267gbps vs 200gbps) but you would also run the risk of having an individual data stream limited to 67gbps. Any single user will never have a speed test over 100gbps and the unlucky user who's data stream goes over the third link will never be over 67gbps.
Most providers or large enterprises dont want to have inconsistencies like that in their network (someone will randomly get the 3rd link that has lower speeds). For a home/small enterprise network like this it wouldn't hurt.
It is just something to be aware of and will explain why some users randomly will only max at 67gbps on their "300gbps lag". Imagine trying to troubleshoot this if you didn't know about suboptimal load sharing in LAGs, it would be a nightmare lol.
@R Hamlet I have never seen any cable runs that were odd numbers unless one pair got damaged. So you would have to run 2 extra or be forced to do two runs which would be double.
@@williamjohnson4297 "but you would also run the risk of having an individual data stream limited to 67gbps."
Like any machines they have connected could ever come close to that speed.
I understood the need for all of the writers, editors and camera operators. I knew that the business team had to deal with a lot of things too.
I didn't realise that part of the reason LMG has to work without Linus is that he'll spend a day crawling through bushes.
Imagine someone asking you where the CEO of the company is and you have to point to someone landscaping out back. Love it.
I honestly work for a company with a CEO like that and it is awesome! He's also somehow more insane that Linus
@@clank400 please tell me you can film him and upload it.. would be awsome to see..
@@Dimage666 It'd be like filming a humming bird. Just imagine a guy in a suit worth more than you make in a month, on his knees pulling cables. That's Dan. Also he drives an I8 and somehow managed to fit more stuff in there than you can fit on your car
@@clank400 That's hilarious. And I bet the IT team hates him :D
@@clank400 That's hilarious. I hope you ain't liying, because that guy is very cool! 😄
This is the only channel that can get me to enjoy watching a 30 minute video about connecting a cable
All of what happened in this video is basically what our parents see when we go behind the TV and switch something from HDMI1 to HDMI2.
Holy shit I didn't realize this video was 30 minutes long before reading your comment, felt like 15 to me :o
@@FunielAudio same here, what are we doing with our lives....
@@chi11estpanda Learning about tech and getting entertained, I'll take it
The deeper the overgrowth, the more Canadian Linus becomes.
Was takin' him back to his farm days as a child, eh?
the exchange with that neighbor was shockingly canadian
@@CarsMeetsBikes I’m American and I have had a very similar Exchange before but not involving blackberries
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@@CarsMeetsBikes I was literally about to comment this. I’ve seen people get fired up over less but this was really civil instead
I installed Fiber Optics from the very beginning of its introduction until I retired 5 years ago. The only time I sustained damage was when an apprentice flipped it up into the air and popped it on the ground to try and unloop it. Shattered over 100 feet. Cut and splice time. Overpulling destroys it. Slow and easy is the rule. It is very sturdy when handled properly and never dropped. Love the stuff for distance. Now I prefer point to point microwave for less than a mile.
Depends on where you are… I live in an area with a lot of dark fiber…
This is either madness or brilliance. It's remarkable how often those two traits coincide
As a fiber optic lineman, I find this extremely entertaining.
Tell us, what did they do right and wrong?
@@BlackViperMWG Yes
@@BlackViperMWG We didn't see them clean and inspect the fibre ends. Or don't know if the light levels are within spec for the XFPs (giving the distance and specs at the start of the video it 'should' be ok) as for handling of the fibre those cables are pretty durable so though bush bashing with them isn't recommend, it probably didn't do them any harm. Leaving the drum out in the rain is pretty standard practice (for subcontractors)
@@BlackViperMWG As an electrician in the US. It works, thats everything he did right. Him as the owner, (speculating here) he is not required to follow the cascade of rules that we as professionals need to, which leads into the "wrong" part. This part I am limited in my knowledge, but one thing that I can say for sure is that, since the cable is easily accessible, and susceptible to damage from external factors, that it needs to be in conduit, or placed where it can not be accessed by "normal" means. Basically, since he ran it in some bushes, if he was trying to make this a permanent setup, he would have to bury it, or place it in conduit, to protect it. That is probably the biggest thing. Then, he would need a permit for such project, and pay all relevant taxes, thousands in conduit (pvc would work). It would have to be buried at least two feet below ground, which where he was, you "could" do it by hand. Bah, this is turning longer then it needs to be. Basically there is a lot of red flags that need to be addressed to "officially" make this a reality, and a lot more than just the cable. God I love my job sometimes. lol
This is all done manually, now I want to setup my own
Thank you Linus, for standing up for horizontal filming.
lol and then he just turns his phone without stopping the recording so the editor has to fix it in post.
@@KlodFather it exists and thats called 4:3
@@JoshuaCasey Another time and place for vertical video, for me, is if the primary purpose of the recording is to capture the moment/memory and not necessarily share online for viewing on horizontal displays. Vertical framing sometimes lets you get more relevant stuff into the shot, especially in tight spaces. Even in this video, we were able to see more of Linus and get a better idea of what the context was and what he was doing when the orientation was vertical.
@@sntslilhlpr6601 Been there - done it to myself - like going from horizontal to vertical and back several times in one clip. Later I swear at myself while cutting, zooming, uprezzing and crossfading ....
Heh, short joke
As a infrastructure engineer that has worked with fiber optic deployments and DWDM it was interesting to watch you do this. One of the things you should consider getting is an OTDR. That would allow you to characterize the cable, measure things like Chromatic Dispersion and it would tell you the quality of the glass used. It's also helpful in telling you if/where a break is exactly on your fiber. I would suggest a video series on OTDR and your experiences with it.
Yep, always OTDR your cable. Sometimes, all it takes is a dirty connector to ruin your day.
I would test it before even pulling it
I worked a job where we tested our spare fibers in the fall and spring when it was frozen the deepest. This was in an area that the fiber ran across the Arctic Circle.
I have no idea about what you wrote, wish I did. Software Engineer by day, slowly building a home lab at night.
Linus: This is a temporary deployment
Linus 6 years later on WAN show: Remember that fibreoptic cable between the two offices which we said we'd only use temporarly as a proof-of-concept? Yeah we used that for the last couple of years no problem.
"now that it has proven its concept we left it operating"
Haven't finished the vid but I hope they buried it if it will end up permanent.
Someone mowing the lawn can snap it.
That thing will DEFINITELY be permanent
@@EmotionalWeather Ye, that was my first thought as well, no way they gonna get rid of it.
@@alexr2761 They probably just frame it as temporary so non of the land owners, city, landlords complain. And in a couple of weeks, everyone will have forgotten about it. They might burry the ends and thats it.
I'm constantly impressed by how knowledgeable and dangerous Jake has become. Well done
I just hope he takes good care of his heath.
@@shadowcheto85 wear the belly with pride 0:55
Right?! I'm always baffled at how much knowledge this kid has. Even when he's making shit up, it sounds legit. 🤣
I'm sure he has enough knowledge that he would be able to start up his own TH-cam channel
Legit scary
As a Cable Puller working for Bell Canada, it really felt like Linus was saying thank you to me.
you should try working in an old city like Philadelphia. imagine running cable through alleys that haven't been cleaned in decades. having people threaten you with guns, dogs and running brand new cable over meth labs. Then having to go back in later and fix the cable because it got melted by a meth lab catching fire. Sometimes I think I should write stories about the s*** I saw there.
@@MikeTsBees Go for it. Sounds like a cyberpunk Noir as it is!
@@MikeTsBees FELT THIS ONE...
As a FTTH deployment project manager i will just say this… BEWARE OF SQUIRRELS 😂
Eh im a Data tech for Bell Canada was about to say bless them cable pullers ahahah
Respect for taking the head role in this and leading the charge. I could have easily see CEO of any other company showing up, filming his bit at the end and in the beggining of the pull and letting people on a payroll deal with the hard part.
LOL. Apart from he's the main host so has to be in Vids. You say 'hard part' like, he crawled in a bush for abit and yelled for TH-cam
Such a hero
@@heliumnetworking5103 I don't watch Linus regularly so I'm missing whatever you're hinting at. Does Linus not work anymore or just come to the office for the video shoots? Does he treat his employees terribly or something?
hes also the smallest person at the company so it helps in the bushwacking.
The Dan & Linus duo was the pairing i didnt know i needed. The David Attenborough impersonation by dan was perfectly executed
My brother is an arborist/landscaper and I’ve worked with him many times. This is very hard work working through thick brambles/spiked vines. It’s exhausting, it’s hot (at least in Australia), it’s dirty, and you get scratched and filthy. You come home and there’s dirt in places it should NEVER be. Great job lads.
He needed a battery operated commercial hedge trimmer and just whack everything
While Linus may say that it's just a temporary deployment for the memes, we all know that nothing is as permanent as a temporary solution.
Can't wait for the 1 year update.
This is definitely temporary for legal reasons. Otherwise they would of run it on the road like they have done for other long cable tests.
@@Fconig1 anyone knows why they can't?
@@Wolan. They probably don't have written permission from all the land owners & businesses that it's crossing. And getting that permission would take lawyers and a lot of renting fees. Which is why they were quoted a crazy price to have another company do the same so of run.
@@Fconig1 yeah it's "temporary" for legal reasons. It's not like the fine they'll get if somebody gets upset about it in 10 years will break the bank.
Thanks for the captions. Canadian is sometimes a difficult language to understand for us English speakers.
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If it does break use Optical Time Domain Refractometer to find the break. They are really accurate now, down to the linear foot of the fracture even if you're miles away. (2:03) Linus said he didn't know how to find a break in the fiber if it should occur during installation or handling.
Call Fluke and ask for a fiber tester. They are somewhat expensive but Linus probably needs one at this point anyway due to his love of fiber.
Ha I was going to say...uhh OTDR guys not that big of a deal ;)
And a fuser. Mechanical splices with indexing gell are out!
@@ClayinSWVA Flukes OTDR is trash. Use a ExFo or AFL. Fluke is better for copper their solutions for Fiber aren’t great.
my dad works for exfo he could probably send Linus one of their portable otdr
I'd love to see an individual employment agreement from LMG. It probably just says "Your duties and responsibilities are whatever the script says".
It's probably super vague. I work as an IT admin and my employment contract says 'works as an IT admin and - if needed - other equivalent tasks within his skills and capabilities'. I'd have to really change tracks for my work to no longer fit the contract.
Actual Logistic job posting: "Must have a sense of humor and a positive, get it done attitude"
Read: "Excellent 'chirping from the bench' must match competence level. Individuals with a respect for authority figures need not apply."
@@Steamrick Yeah, in business-critical functions such as IT these days, you might be required to do practically anything to get the job done. I've been there, done that!
@@Steamrick that must be great
Imagine you're just chilling in your basement, minding your own business, and Linus suddenly digs through the wall with a fiber cable.
lol
Hi Linus. The switch is back there. Just don't monitor my traffic.
I'd be like: "sick, thanks! Give me a 100G uplink and I haven't seen anything, go right ahead" 😆
That's more of a Colin Furze kind of thing. Apparently the next stage of home tunnel project is to make a personal bat-cave for his car to be lowered into on a lift.
Why hello there.
It's videos like this why I realize Linus is as successful as he is... Relentless hard work even when he could delegate
For at least the 15 minutes he was on camera, anyway! ;)
3:50 He did delegate but they didn't do it, lol
@@izzard An edited 15 minutes... He was probably actively working for alot more than 15 minutes to get through that brush. They aren't going to film every uneventful, silent second of him crawling through that crap. I hope that wink is a sign of you just trolling.
@@kodykm3231 “Trolling” makes it sound malicious.
“;)” is famously internet-speak for sardonic incredulity.
@@izzard I don't watch Linus regularly so I'm missing whatever you're hinting at. Does Linus not work anymore or just come to the office for the video shoots? Does he treat his employees terribly or something?
Kudos to Jake for using a RAM disk to benchmark the network. It's nothing new but it was a smart and quick thinking to have on the spot to solve the problem at hand which was to benchmark the network/connection. ❤
I was really glad to see that too.
What makes you think that he came up with that on the spot?
You know that they plan these videos? And how to test the speed is part of that pre-planning.
"Unfortunately we couldn't find any cooling fans, but we did find this leaf blower."
Has a more Linus sentence ever existed
He didn't zip tie it to the card, so I think there's still a little room for growth...
Can we just take a minute to appreciate Jake. He seems to have turned into one of the most valuable member of LMG. From converting Linus' house into a tech paradise, to being the go-to guy when keeping all the new buildings connected. Well done Jake.
Can we appreciate Linus? More I watch LTT videos, more I think that this man can do anything. I feel pure respect to him
When it comes to the ultra technical things, Anthony is the man. I am envious of that guy's knowledge.
I’ll be honest, Jake makes me cringe a little especially back in previous videos at linus’s house (if I was yvonne I’d be saying a big FU😂) slating things and overall slightly egotistical… clearly he knows his stuff but that’s my two cents
And he is fcking 21 YO
@@WazNKylo Not sure what you're referring to, but you gotta keep in mind how young he is. Most people his age are still in university.
While I fully agree that Linus should be wearing a helmet for everyday tasks, skipping the hard hat and wearing protective glasses would've done a lot more in the PPE department.
I oversaw the installation of a fiber network for a school district through the 2000's. It took several years, but we built a 30 mile fiber network. It was so great to turn that on.
Was this school district in a state starting with C and a county starting with D by any chance?
yes but are you ugly?
@@baseduck I mean thousands of districts have been having fiber cables placed for the past two decades so that is highly unlikely
@@baseduck NM
One of my sisters works at a company that lays down fiber optic cables over long distances. She got her kid a summer job there a few years back, and listening to her describe how bad he was at the job was always hilarious. He once spent over an hour trying to roll up a cable, only for someone else to undo all of his work and then fully roll up the cable in less than 5 minutes. That said, having him around was actually quite useful for the company because it turns out that hard labor tends to result in larger men that can't fit down the "hole". My nephew on the other hand, didn't have any trouble fitting down the hole, so they did have a use for him.
Does he not know how to electrician tie a electrical cord?
@@theenzoferrari458 back then, probably not. Now, I sure hope so. I'm not 100% sure, but I think one of his most frequent gigs since then has been is in construction. You would need to be really, really bad at a job in order to not pick up any skills over the course of a few years.
reminds me of how during the industrial revolution, they used child labor in the coal mines cos the kids could fit into holes easier
Same shit basically happened to me when I started doing stage tech work, I'd start rolling a cable, not in the worst way, but my boss came and said "we don't roll cables like this at (company name)" and redid all my work faster than I did it the wrong way. But ya gotta learn somehow.
ego hurting job... i am useful because i am small...
What I love about Linus is his pure excitement for IT.
He is not the "know it all guy" but he will try the best he can to figure it out with the help of his employees.
That is the best part of running his company. He don´t have to know it all. He just hires people that know the things he need.
@@Dimage666
Exactly, the smart management/owner doesn't need to know everything, just enough to make sure they employ the people who do - and then give them the support they need to do their jobs.
This is one of the reasons many businesses fail - especially after new owners/management take over - because they don't understand this, especially the latter bit!
"We stole this computer from the keyboard testing robot", and thus by issuing this specific sequence of words for the first time in all history, Linus inadvertently brings about the apocalypse. It's hard not to be caught up with the camaraderie and enthusiasm of the team on this endeavour. This also shows the tenacity that has helped to turn LTT into the force that it is, hats off.
I love how chill their neighbor company BC Plant Health Care were with this project and how they asked for LTT merch lmfao
Yeah all the exchanges in this video seemed really chill
@@adlib0950 Welcome to Canada.
@@Brurgh the definition of this country
@@GoldGull sad..
@@MapleMan1984 please explain why you think that
If you have a breakage you could use a device called an OTDR to locate the fault within a meter. It's pretty impressive stuff.
And the fibre welder, which can align them withing nanometers and weld 2 glass fibres ;) (also costs around 15-30k)
@@daanwdv And the enclosure to house it and all that, it's not cheap by any stretch to fix it, but it's also not insanely expensive, just a bit 😅
This is what I do for a living in the UK.
I remember my old ethernet card could tell a cable length if it was unplugged. must be the same concept. Nice stuff for sure!
@@daanwdv for that type of deployment a 800-900$ splice machine is plenty capable to splice the fibers at acceptable attenuation.
I'm 100% certain they are keeping this and made a company-wide pact to never mention the connection between HQ and lab. The whole "we are pulling it back" stuff is a decoy. Man, I know I would, if I could.
yup, they're good presenters but terrible actors... pretty sure they're hoping everyone forgets about it.
@@Great.Milenko As long as it's good enough for legal teams to not be up their asses. They don't wanna really fool anyone but just have plausible deniability of unofficially laying new cables through other peoples yards
i agree. they're totally doing this. i just don't know about the tripping liability of the cable in the woods. it's one thing if someone trips on a tree trunk, but it's another to trip on a linus media group fibre cable
"I told you guys to pull that cable back years ago!" Plausible deniability. Don't fix it until someone complains.
It's all fun and games until some jerk comes at it with pliers.
As a Fiber Optic engineer, look up DWDM, Mux/Demux.
Also start a cable pull at the middle of the route, pull to one side then go to the otherside.
He should also look in to 802.11AE and Layer 2 encryption, espacially if he is transmitting Media files.
Watching this as a fiber optic technician, this episode was hilarious
i have pulled many, many miles of this stuff. underground and on poles. dont miss it one bit
If we have deliberately breaking them at 0, and extremely pedantic absolute best practice no exceptions no slip ups at 10, am I right in thinking this video is about a 3 in terms of fibre handling?
@@TAP7a nah the cable is cheap and way more durable then you might think. even if you break the fiber they can patch it.
@@cabeiri6653 sure but the idea is to not have to splice it back together.
This episode is a fiber optic technician? How would that work?
I'm glad you pointed out that this was entirely for the memes. If it wasn't already blatantly obvious to anyone else watching, there is functionally zero difference between what they did, and just keeping the completely intact spool in a single office and testing the speed by connecting both ends in the same room.
It’s just for the memes…wink wink nudge nudge 😂
@@Likeomgitznich he’s for sure using it. He mentioned in a previous video he wanted to do it.
@@Likeomgitznich I wonder what the cost of 600m of that right of way would be
edit: I feel like the equipment wouldn’t be exorbitantly costly to trench and backfill to however deep the regulatory requirement would be. It’s flat ground. Is that area rocky?
Parhaps? I’ve not heard of it. It has to be spooled. How else would you store or transport it?
I know some stock exchanges and seducers t applications intentionally spool miles of fiber to test artificial run length or to actually create latency
Nobodies gonna stop him... so yeah I guess he's gonna use it anyways. It's literally in no one's way.
As a guy, who studied fiber communications in high school, worked at a sub-contractor for the big telcos in my country, and now in one of the big telcos as a fiber planning and implementation intern (which for me ends next week), this video brings back memories about what I’ve done before when I used to run cables through trenches and ducts + splicing them lol.
I've got that same switch on order, it's a real game changer! Affordable enough for (slightly crazy) homelabbers, solid enough for (slightly hacky) businesses.
I will always tune in for Dan Tech Tips. He's such a joy to watch.
easily one of the quickest on-air guys to win over my approval!
There's something so magical about watching Linus emerge from the bushes. Still in socks and sandals. Absolute legend
He wore sneakers earlier 10:50. Unfortunately.
Linus: I shall now go NEGOTIATE
Neighbors: we want screwdrivers and backpacks or no cable line
Linus: …ok
That was the most flattering blackmail I've ever heard of.
@@nickwallette6201 blackmail? This is a game of CIV6. XD
Ah yes... the negotiator.
Given the costs that's probably going to be thousands of dollars of merchandise tho
That guy knew what he was doing. Those both seem like great products but are a bit pricey. Getting one each for their team was brilliant on his part.
That's some serious speeds and I'm surprised at how affordable the cable and equipment actually is. I have a 40 acre property and now I want to run fibre from on end to the other just because I can.
Same, I've been looking at that MikroTik switch for a while but it's still in short supply where I am so I can't order it yet. But I guess it's still possible to lay the fibre and just start at 1 or 10 gigabit until stock of the 100G switch becomes available.
@@Berkeloid0 The fibre does not care about speed. A 10G fibre trx can be obtained for under 10$. Mikrotik switches with 10G sfp+ are also very affordable.
@@higihups Yep, that's what I meant by "lay the fibre and start at 1 or 10G", then you can upgrade to 100G using the same fibre when the 100G is available to buy
I work for a telecoms company in England and it’s great seeing the equipment I work on in videos like this! Also glad you appreciate the work the cable gangs do, they do such a hard job!
didn't your toe nails curl aswell at 6:11 ? pulling a cable during it's whole length through the tiny opening between fence and the non-rounded edges of the fence mounting? this metal is going to have field day rusting due to the outer mantle being scratched. just take the time to properly dismantle the fence, pull the cable through, and put the fence together afterwards.
cable guy from germany.
@@deinemudder3066 I think you may have missed the part where its temporary.
@@andresmithe298 would you be so kind as to link me to my enlightenment? don't want to come as cocky but i am not for information without the point to it. since i obviously did miss it then. thank you (=
Fiber-guy from germany here. I usually do the connections between cable sections (dunno how you guys call these things in english) and the final meassurements/certification. Usually on 96' and 144' fiber cables.
It's cool to see them have some fiber on camera :D
@@deinemudder3066 I'm not going to re-watch a half hour video. They said it repeatedly, they were doing this for jokes once they saw how cheap the cable was and explicitly said it was temporary...
Dan is possibly the best hire you guys have had in a while EDIT: Linus' turning up of the Canadian hospitality at 9:00 was turbo cute
Yep. Only what is missing is one of them should offer a donut
As opposed to hearing a shotgun being racked?
I do similar Point-to-Point installs as yours. I use a 27" minitrencher machine (look it up) to dig a small 2" trench and drop the fiber in afterward. Could be useful once your proof of concept is done. The machine can even fit on a plane once disassembled.
This channel is insane. There is no other channel with such insane content.
It's like it took all of the freak shows from old discovery channel, and multiplied them by 100
Loved seeing this. I work as a cable lineman. I typically run around 10,000 ft of fiber optic line a day.
King.
Linus runs about 10,000 mm of fibre optic a week.
What do you mean by daily? Meaning, the company that you're working for got a contract and you have been pulling Fiber for month?
@@spankbuda7466 the company I work for is running new construction across rural America to get high speed internet to people who need it. Been working with this company for over 5 years now, and have been working on the same contract. Our office runs about 6 crews. All the crews together get about 20 miles of fiber installed a week. Some of the fiber reels we work with are 20,000 foot worth of fiber, which we have to run as one continuous piece, for max speed. The biggest fiber cable I've ran is a 288count fiber, meaning that there is 288 stands of fiber optic line inside the cable.
@@akanitrix9079 That sounds highly unlikely for any company to run FREE fiber service through rural parts just so a small percentage of potential households could have high speed internet. I'm near some rural parts that the cable company refuses to extend their service lines to the few homes not only charging them a ridiculous fee but having them sign a lengthy long term contract.
I work for an ISP in Wisconsin and we do fiber runs like this solo all the time. Glad you had help.
What would normal depth be for a cable like that?
As a fiber optic cable tech/installer, I gotta say I never thought of this method to install cable, usually we just put it in conduit and split runs up with boxes… you guys are way ahead of the game!
The conduit box method is better. There's less chances the main cable would break from being moved around, plugged and unplugged in the office.
My little brother was an installer of these cables, so it’s really cool to see what he must’ve been working with. This video is very interesting
They actually are working on 400gbit BiDi (bidirectional) transceivers that would allow this cable to do 2.4Tbit a second. They make use 2 different wavelengths for send and receive, allowing you to utilize 1 strand of fiber for an entire connection. 1/2.5gbps BiDi transceivers are common in FTH deployments. They do have 100gbit BiDi transcievers available today, although they're pretty pricey ($4600 for a pair of transceivers).
Yeah a product I worked on in 2018 could do 1.2 Tbps BiDi on a single fiber easily. Now we have QSFP pluggables that do 800G and a 2.4Tb module coming soon. 100Gbps is not a challenge anymore lol.
@@iinsomniaaaaa I was working on a SM connection between 2 floors at our data center for a customer. They kept getting a small reflectance that was really messing with their connection. I asked them how much they were using, Gigbit, 10 Gig, 100 Gig, 300 Gig? She said it was a 4 Terabit connection using transport gear. I found the issue in a dark fiber panel and got them cleaned. I just could not believe how much they had going through 1 strand. Now that the transport gear is more common in the data center, it is like nothing now.
whomst'd've need 2.4Tbit/sec speed beside datacenter?
@roy k who do you think we're selling to lol?
TASTE THE RAINBOW!!!...with multi colored lasers & frequency specific beam splitters!!!😋
Dan may be one of the greatest recent additions to the LMG video crew. His humor is so on point.
With the handheld filming style of this, and Linus's channelling of pure "Michael Scott" energy, this could basically just be an episode of The Office
The Office - "Outside"
The absolute best videos come from linus and jake bantering and figuring out stuff around the shop and their houses, I honestly cant get enough of those type videos.
Linus going through the bush was some of the most hilarious things I have ever seen. This also shows that he is one STRONG man.
He got that farm boy strength
According to what though? Pulling the cable?
@@BlackViperMWG brush clearing ain't easy
Dan is a most excellent hire and should be in more videos just providing commentary.
Used to install the conduit that fiber runs through, we did an insane run under the intracoastal in Clearwater,FL that everyone swore was impossible with a Vermeer 40/40, had to bring in trailers of drill pipes and load/unload them by hand. We got it done.
I sincerely don't care about cable running, I'm watching the entire video solely because everyone at LTT is entertaining and funny, generally likable people, them being my age range probably helps, I could watch these guys do anything, should be an extra channel of LTT crew doing random anything, I'd watch for sure
If you don't mind paying, Floatplane is the place to watch the crew doing random anything lol
The white stick coming out the end is a strength member used to hold the cable in place when it’s fed into a node in the ground. So the weight of the cable is on the member rather than the fibres
The screwdrivers and backpacks for that company was the most expensive part of this whole project
It is actually awesome how the ltt team looks close together, makes the watching experience so wholesome
This man is officially my superhero, seeing my dreams and fantasies come to life through a dude with a passion, I absolutely love it!!! Best channel so far!
Linus soon gonna build his own datacenter
I'd be surprised if he doesn't have one already
Sadly that can't happen. You don't know about the energy crunch coming, eh?
Well, good luck!
he should . IF anyone deserves success its Linus i love the fact that i also live in the same city as him. maybe one day ill get an autograph
At this point or maybe even in future he should have a block named after him
yea he'll most definitely expand his headquarters
Fun fact: you can figure out where the break is. Send a pulse down the fiber and it'll reflect partially from the break. In case there is one, that is. For bush removal I'd suggest shrapnel.
This also works on Cat5/6/7/etc a similar way
I believe that it's called "Time Domain Reflectometry"!!!
@@fookingsog correct and you use an OTDR unit to send and read that information in real time
Napalm more effective or flame thrower
*Bwoomph*
Linus: What the heck was that?
Dan: You said to clear the bush...
I felt so calm when Dan started narrating at 12:20. His voice is so calm and soothing. He should do that more often 😂
This scaled down makes so much sense for a detached garage or barn.
I remember when Linus was unboxing high end PC cases in a park with a camcorder and now he has 2 industrial grade buildings with a whole lot of professional staff members
Three actually, although I honestly think it might be 4. 5 side-by-side units in building 1 (4 for main office, connected, and 1 with a firewall between it and main that is the workshop) OldLab (that is now Creator Warehouse, in a industrial park right next door to park 1, with a dedicated beamformed wireless link to main office) NewLab (with this fibre run), and I think he has another 1 unit in the same industrial park but different building as Main HQ that is for logistics warehousing? Don't quote me idk what the *possible* 4th building was used for, but I thought I remembered him having 2 wireless dishes on the roof of Main before he bought newlab
Love watching Linus slowly lose his sanity as Linus makes his journey through the woods
Man I love Dan. His energy is just the perfect level of discrete chaos
i think Linus is a pretty good boss, he does all this work on his own rather than making someone else do it.
I do agree that he is a good boss, but we only see the stuff that makes for a good video so of course he'd be doing it haha
Something I love about Linus is that there you have the guy, the CEO of the business running that very TH-cam channel! In the literal trenches with his team.
That's a great example to follow!
More like “They want to charge HOW MUCH for two guys to pull that cable? That’s ridiculous. I’ll do it myself for free, and make a video out of it”
@@amd2800barton they asked me for money now I'll make the money
Linus will never ask his employees to do something that he wouldn't do himself, which is nice. Unfortunately for them, Linus has a lackluster sense of self-preservation.
@@voltr3d569 pulled a uno reverse card on them
Or as I like to call it, the network switch
So basically this was less hard than installing two synced gaming monitors in Linus home. It just worked.
It's at least commercial-grade. If you ever want something to "just work" you buy the commercial-grade product. Consumer-grade is often literally designed to break.
It's almost as if millions of companies around the globe and literally the whole world's economy relied on this tech every single day.
Now imagine the nerds who designed the first trans-atlantic fiber optic link in 1988, they must've been jumping out of their skin to see that shit working
Yeah well Linus got things so complicated at home that if he dies tomorrow I don't think Yvonne or the kids know how to turn on one PC :))
im a rural land surveyor. what linus dealt with in this video gave me some good laughs, reminds me of my own work... crawling through blackberry bushes and tickweed all day.
Addition to the brush tip. When dealing with something more sturdy like thistle, grab them below the mulch/soil line. There will be no thorns or they will be too soft to puncture.
I'm a fiber optic technician by trade. Needless to say this was hard to watch 🤣 Great job making it happen though. We live just getting stuff done. Also, a tip for the future: always pull a higher count fiber than you need. Just so you have more than enough strands for future expansion. I've seen it MANY times. A 6ct seems like enough and then down the line you find you need more strands. Food for thought. Great job guys. Cheers!
I would go the extra mile and put in a 24 or 48ct cable. But I would do it with direct bury, but with Mircoduct and blown fiber. Just laying a 2 or 4ct 7/4mm duct and blowing a single 24ct microcable would be enough for now and would leave room for expansion. And if the duct gets damaged the downtime is shorter by just blowing a new cable, than splicing in an outdoor enclosure or laying a new direct burial cable
Or you could just do a bit of CWDM, whole new video I that.
@@florichi ...blowing a cable?
@@katarjin yes blowing in the cable. It’s essentially a compressor that fills up a conduit with air. Then two little belts push the cable into the conduit. The cable rides on the air that’s filled the conduit and the person on the other end can just figure 8 it or coil it for the next run. Depending on the conduit size you can blow miles at a time. Way way better than pulling it in.
@@katarjin ya, inside a 14/10mm og a 12/8mm plastic tube. A machine that runs on air, pushes with about 4bar on some tracks through the machine, and blows air through the pipe at 14bar, and me and my buddy (we work as a fibee blowing team) we can blow a fiber cable 2500meters in one take, takes about 1hour
The shield of the fibre cable is a big lightning conductor. You need to bond each end of the cable to ground and stop it at the edge of the building so that you don't bring the lightning strike inside the building and not only kill the equipment but also create a danger to the people in the building. Switch to a patch cord at the building envelope and leave the shielded portion of the cable outside. Better yet - use an all dielectric version of the cable with no metal in it - much safer.
Sooo.....you gonna send them one then?
@@helljumper912 Well I mean they aren't keeping it...soooo they can buy a different one when they do it again... :) The Non-Armoured version is even cheaper.
@@tomjzed Yes definitely they sure are not "keeping" it.... I mean nobody would want that. They will definitely go the 1000$ / month method instead ....
@@DarkNexarius They said at the beginning of the video this is only a test. A proof of concept if you will. Did you not pay attention?
A test that it would function. They’ll come behind and bury it.
I'm surprised your business complex doesn't have any underground conduits for joint telco access that you could run your fiber through. A lot of industrial parks run conduits rather than having the telcos/ISPs do it because they don't want the complex to be locked into a single vendor. Industrial parks and office complexes that do this usually run a conduit along the front of each row of buildings and then run out to the road where the telcos/ISPs can get access, so if you want telco A instead of telco B, they don't have to trench or run new aerial cable, they can just run through the conduit to get into your building.
AFAIK he has buildings in 3 different business parks at this point, and this is a solution to connect two of them together
I'm surprised they didn't just take the reel of cable to their server room and test it there. It's still 2300ft of cable. It's just wrapped around a reel. Video may have been shorter and not as much fun though 🤔
@@trigbagger This was possibly to show the city they could do it and demonstration puproses for others so they can get a proper permit approved. Or it was just for the vid. But I suspect the work to get through the brush was more than just for the video.
@@trigbagger That is hilariously true.
Literally just seeing this after a fibre deployment to 35 individual homes from a Fibre headend 40Km away here in Wales UK!
We use a multimode fibre over these distances with a starting spine cable of 144 individual fibres, in theory (taking 'spares' out of the equation) each fibre can feed 32premises via a 32way splitter.
Fibre is impressive stuff, and not as easily broken as you'd think! it has incredible tensile strength, but put a slight kink in a bare fibre and you'll see it snap with no force at all.
That tech guy from the other company was the most prepared negotiator ever! @21:30
Linus really said "Fine... I'll do it myself..."
Yeah, basically what Musk said to Russia. So things are likely going to escalate from here with LTT.
if the alternative was paying his ISP 100k/year I would say that too
I love watching the LTT team do aspects of what I do for work day to day, but at the absolute highest end
lol the absolute highest end? Highest end jank lol
You OSP or ISP?
They didn't even go 400G, lol
@@NeilCapell I didn't say anything about their ability, just the equipment 😅
What's funny is 800G gear is on the horizon in the next 6-12 months from most vendors, aside Nvidia who leapt ahead this year, lol
As a cable technician, you generally don’t run coax cable more than 400 feet unless necessary, you loose quite a bit of signal to get to 400 and then starting at 400 you loose an extreme amount, even using rg11
Not only does the metal casing on the "shielded fiber" add strength, it also allows utility locators to locate them when buried. Some fibers are not shielded though and require a separate wire for tracing.
I somehow get the feeling that the whole "this is only temporary and for testing" is a statement purely made for some legal reasons. It would be by far not the jankiest setup they've ever done.
He kinda gave it away at one point where he mentioned that other people would come after him and micro trench. You don't micro trench for a temporary test.
In addition: giving away backpacks and screwdrivers for just a test is also a bit pricey. Makes much more sense if it is permanent.
Nah nah nah, they definitely dug it back up after the test.
Eh, it's temporary until they find some other cool way to do it.
There is a german proverb: "There is nothing better than a good provisional install." A a work colleague has stickers that look like industry normed shields that spell "Long term provisional"
Linus: We gotta do this carefully
Also Linus: doing it as carelessly as possible
I can't help but think here in the states if someone came out and saw someone poking around in the greenbelt behind a business or home or something that the conversation would have been a lot different. There would have been police called, and a giant argument if it's legal or not to run a cable even if it's not hurting anyone eventually getting the city and the courts involved all stemming from the "hello?"
Learning that Linus grew up on a farm in the episode with his sister has helped explain SO MUCH about how he tackles certain tasks/challenges. His particular brand of go-get-em masculinity is definitely rooted in working long hard hours on a farm for sure. Reminds me of myself at times. He seems like the kinda guy that doesn't pussyfoot around challenges and will call anyone out that does.
I feel like Linus "worked" on the farm until he was 17 then got a job at a tech store and never looked back... Wait.... isn't that what actually happened? 😂
@@bentboybbz basically
@@bentboybbz that may be the case but spending those formative years working with your family to run a family business essentially is real shit. just because he went off to do his own thing eventually doesn't negate the obvious work ethic he developed in those early years
linus being actually experienced and smart about doing outdoor stuff, that was legit unexpected
He grew up on a fram, so...
Safety glasses when thwacking about in the bush might have been wise though, that eyebrow cut was pretty close to the eye!
@@djarumz Linus is nothing if not a *bit* too overly confident in himself and his abilities, lmao.
@@djarumz as somebody who is a gardened and works with other gardeners, face protection is something that everybody knows they should wear but rarely do
Linus: "This is just a temporary solution"
Also Linus: "I'm going to clear 3 feet so you can micro trench it"
methinks line 1 was legalese
yeah, there's no way he isn't making this into a permanent solution at some point
All you have to do is bury the fibre in a trench to make the install permanent.
correct term is called a Permatemp
Fiber optic cables are never classified by "PAIRS" but rather the strand count. Copper followed a pairing of Tip and Ring to make a PAIR of isolated conductors thus a "24 PAIR" telephone cable would have 48 conductors. You order fiber as a "48F" as in 48 fibers.
Being stated by the same person suggesting that a 2300ft run is "impossible" when the same principle connects continents.
That might be true but when you're connecting to a consumer switch you need one strand in either direction, so the number of pairs tells you how many full-duplex links you can get over the cable which is what they were most interested in. It might not be the term the professionals use, but it's much more useful for their application.
@@Berkeloid0 or you could be wrong and assuming you are right.
Show me one part number for any cable that has a "pair" designation on it. And you can get a full duplex link over 1 strand. It is called BiDi SFP. Uses different wavelengths on the same physical strand. I'll send you a picture of what date I became an FOA certified splicer and you send me a picture of your cracker Jack A+ certificate and let's see who has the experience to back their claims.
@@jeffreyburrows3562 Why do you suddenly need to prove you're a professional and question my qualifications? Of course I'm not qualified, and I'm not even disagreeing with you, I'm just explaining why they chose to describe the cable to viewers in terms of pairs, even though it's not the way the cables are sold. They were just explaining the cable in terms that made sense for their use case, nothing more.
@@Berkeloid0 I was actually just letting them know how to properly designate a fiber count for people that are watching this and potentially looking at a career in Telecom. You jump back in with your 2 cents saying it's ok to miss designate it. So yes I'm going to enlighten the viewers that I have the justification to correct their misunderstanding. Sorry your feelings are hurt, that doesn't really matter in telecommunications.
Imagine you're sitting there trying to do your work with a hard deadline that you have to meet tomorrow. Then Linus comes barging in with a banana coloured helmet, gardening gloves and a GoPro strapped to his chest yelling "COME HELP ME PULL THIS BLACK CABLE".
Yeah and they just left and they left linus in the forest without telling him 🤣
I am a fiber optic technician from South Africa , this was hilarious to watch thanx allot LTT .
Unusually for runs like that we would either plant 7M poles ever 50M or bury it underground . One thing i must admit is that the pre terminated cable is not something i would have recommended for this run . Pull none terminated to each building into a joint / buddy box and then terminate at the box to where ever you need it . But thanx for this video , love seeing you guys work with things that some of us do for a living :)
That makes a lot of sense, and I have zero knowledge about fiber optics. 😄
Isn't the device for terminating the wires like thousands of dollars?
@@lazyman114 you can hire a fusion splicer for maybe $100 a day or something
I think here it may have been worth getting in touch with the local electrical utility, they already have poles in place that run immediately outside of both buildings. Lots of utility companies are amenable to sharing infrastructure with non competing uses to the point of having departments dedicated to negotiating such agreements. After all if they are not a competitor then it is just a way to cut costs by sharing the costs of maintaining those poles with another user that also needs the same thing you do but for a different business with an unrelated customer base so it is win-win.
I knew linus was doing something not 100% as it should be
It’s honestly so surreal to have you explain to me how to handle the local flora of my stomping grounds, I can totally relate to the whole “brushing motion” when grabbing the blackberries
Back in the Stone Age, they used to run the old Coax Cable for network runs. It was "lovingly" referred to as "Frozen Garden Hose". Needless to say, this fibre run is a lot more manageable comparable to the good old days.
Working with Mikrotik every day, I can truely say their stuff is really affordable given no license fees as well for their solid performance its totally worth looking into. Even the flexibility for various deployments just really pays itself of. Would be interesting if LTT would look into their CCR router range and maybe even use for the office or so.
Yeah, they should replace their current pfsense router with a Mikrotik CCR router. They said they have 10gig internet but their pfsense box seems to max out at 5gig. A Mikrotik router would be able to route 10gig just fine.
@@1idd0kun Nevermind 10G the 2216 goes with 100Gbps with hardware offloading
@@TandSylvester not as a firewall. if firewalling+queues it probably maxes at around 5gbps. if only firewall you can enable fasttrack and probably get well beyond 10 gpbs.
MikroTik is so underrated. It's easy to use, cheap and built pretty well. You can get a router made out of metal for like $70.
@@nilleftw idk about "easy to use" chief.
Update: Infinite Cables saw the video and are now charging $10,000 for that same spool.
Thanks Linus!
It's nice to see a leader get into it and do the labor. Linus is a good guy. Keep up the awesome, folks. 🤙🏾
I clicked this video that has been sitting in my notifications for 4 days without any expectation to have this much fun, Dan is the enough amount of energy to counter Linuses without killing any mood, loved this adventure.