Next Sunday we’re building the road crossing on the switch in yard inside. When the weather turns bad we go inside when it turns better we go outside! That’s the advantage of having a railroad that’s both in and outside
Wow!!! You say, "lets run some trains' and the first thing I see is No. 50, one of my favorites. I like 2-6-6-2 tank locos. Thanks, my heart fluttered just a little. ;-)
You kidlets; aren't you so glad you're, over the top, enterprising? This seems to me, to be a whole lot of work for a hobbyist, in their early 20s, but Dale and Karen, you're plowing through your golden years and the energy level is remarkable. The results, however, are exhilarating. I always remember, my parents had often said, the family that can play together will stay together. The same can also be said about praying together. What a glorious project you've initiated, and it's obvious, that you're very pleased with the progression. So, keep up the wonderful effort.
Yeah it seems our entire lives revolve around going over to the garage and just building cool stuff. Nothing wrong with that especially in the middle of a pandemic! And next summer we’re hoping to get back to traveling in a bit to
I love that Frosty the Snowman mail truck. All you need is a little Fred Astaire driving it and singing! Pressure treated wood is prone to twisting because there is so much moisture in it to start. In fact when we rebuilt our balcony I did a lot of research and a couple contractors said don’t use it for your posts because the bottom half can’t be tied together with a lateral rail as it rises above our patio and we need to walk under it. We used Douglas Fir which the previous owners used years before, and then Trex composite decking and their PVC railing and post covers. I think had your lamp posts been tied together with a lateral 2x4 and then the diagonal and horizontal pieces at the top had strong ties (brackets) connecting them with carriage bolts they would have not twisted.
THAT IS SO AWESOME!! Not everyday you see a layout inside and out. Hope We'll get to see more of your indoor/outdoor g scale layout! 😁 Greetings from Poland :)
My mother had one of those wall hangings (the one with the hotel) in her house. Sadly I haven't seen it for years and it wasn't among her things when she passed. Still, seeing it brought back some fond memories. Thanks!
The one with the mill on it is the hard went to find. The one with the hotel in the western street is actually the easiest to find because that’s the one everyone loved! They’re all over eBay and they’re typically around $50, but the shipping is also about $50! Or score you can bag one with free shipping! Oddly enough those cost $100! So one way or the other if you’re going to spend 100 bucks on one of these things
I saw one of those model T snow cats at the imperial palace car collection in Las Vegas years ago. I understand that car is somewhere on the West Coast now. But some company had a Contract with the post office to convert model tees in the snow cats for postal delivery on the East Coast, the New England states. And a few of those are around in collections.
Thanks! Next week we’re back inside working on that part. Because it’s been snowing. Actually right now it’s great but we’ve been working on site for the last week or so because it’s been so cold
@@ToyManTelevision yep been cold here also so been in the train shed doing work on remote couplers for my diesel switcher/yard engine with the heater on. Stay warm...
One thing about Covid is we’re getting a lot done with our models. And now with our ice surgeries we really can’t film to driving around so I’ve decided to just do this progress reports on the rail road!
You too are a hoot! Stay safe! Loved the update and glad you were able to mitigate some of the warping issues. I have a friend who has one of the aluminum bodied Shasta Daylight coaches from 1946 and it's doing the same thing where the body meets the steel base and where all the stainless handirons were attached. Not sure how that Noalox will work on a real scale railcar but worth a shot!
I love that building interior! My Wife got a dollhouse kit and we're working on lots of interior details for it now that the building itself is mostly complete. We made some furniture from the scraps from that as well. She's achieved her childhood dream of owning a great big dollhouse, and I've achieved mine of owning a live steam locomotive! Next stop - getting one big enough to ride on!
Very nice work ,gives me the ideas I need , mine was on the ground and the weather washed away the ballast gravel so has been taken up, hope you are keeping safe and well....we have just had a 17 people outbreak of covid and panic shutdowns inplace here in Adelaide South Australia we're hoping for the best outcome as the vaccine isn't far off👏👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️❤️👀👀👍🏻👍🏻
Hi Kevin! Hope you are well. I’ve always loved these old model T snow cats. As I understand it they were built by a second supplier for the post office
Didn't know about the hot sun problems, great to know. I saw a real pair of snow skis for a model t when I was young. Recently I purchased a Ford script wrench for a pre WW1 model T. 4 dollars at a garage sale. Your pictures will make great postcards. A very informative video.
Yeah I just need to get that wiring issue solved will be fun running in the snow for the first time. That is to say running a railroad in the snow will be fun for the first time ever because in the past when I’ve done it it’s been really a miserable cold experience. Nothing worse than kneeling down in a foot of wet snow.
I hope is that next year I can do the garden section. The huge planter box that connects the garage to the grapevine fence. In a perfect world I could also put in the loop if I can get the planter box and I’ll call that great
What a job and yes I used to live in those hot temperatures what a challenge for anything outside. Enjoy working on the railroad! Also loved the miniatures at the start!
The blazing hot sun really makes a mess out of the track. The smell in the water do you have a bad effect on other things but it’s that blazing hot sun that’s the real problem
Yall have done a fantastic job! Im glad yall are finally finishing your layout yall have worked very hard i know youve been waiting to get it up and rolling, again its looking awesome! And yes Christmas cards will be awesome especially with the snow blower just wow!😎 hope everyone is doing ok, im good no Complaints im doing a lot better and finally enjoying screwing around, take care be safe and hope to hear from yall soon have a awesome Thanksgiving
Here is a suggestion, on your crimped lugs use some Marine Heat Shrink tubing over the collar and wire, this will keep the joints from corrosion and losing their conductivity, plus they'll cover up the Red color and blend them with Black coloring, no need to paint!
That looks so amazing!!!! Today I'll be working on restoring models and cleaning up a little abandoned dolly from a fiber glass plant that can carry 300 pounds!!!
@@ToyManTelevision hay if you ever think about selling those vintage kemtron F Units. I would like to buy them and I treat them very well!! But they are yours so do as you with them
I’ve been debating actually putting a battery on board that. Still not sure if I want to do that or not but I think that would be a really neat thing to be able to do. But if I get the DCC working outside so it may as well just run from that
You’re one way or the other you will be adjusting your joints. Either your real joints or your knees and your hip! But that’s the nature of garden railroading.
Great work. For the bumpers, if you don't overspeed, just tie a tie over the track. I used some wood tie, and tied it with metal wire to both rails. It will block anything train at normal speed, and it is prototype accurate, at least for industrial narrow gauge. Best of it, it's cheap and quick to install.
After the near collision! I took some 4 inch grabber screws and just ran them down between the tires so that they stick up about 3 inches. Easy to remove when the time comes and they definitely will stop a 🚂
Dale, You have some of the neatest toys. Those locomotives that you own and show in this video are awesome. The moving linkages on steam locomotives are what I feel interests people on them. The larger the scale the more focal these parts become. The backdrops that you have are so neat. How do you find and come up with this stuff. It is a true gift. (Oh be the way it is the heat (the sun) heating up the water in the wood that causes all of the problems.) You and Karyn have are gifted (me not so much) (I usually have to redo things two or three times till I am satisfied . How does Karyn come up with the one line responses to you....
Thanks!! Back when I had my garden rail road that was down on the ground I love the look of it but I hated everything else about it! And that was back with my knees and hips and everything actually worked! But I had all kinds of old cushions and stuff that I would lay on the ground for kneeling on when I was working on the ground just bringing trains out from in the house and getting them on to the track was a hassle
Looks fantastic you two! Seems like there is always problems looking for solutions on the Railroad...One of my solutions was to skip most track wiring and go the battery car route with remote. Thanks for the early Christmas card video!
On my old railroad I had two trains that ran on batteries. One of which was a rail bus. And that one got more use than any other thing on the entire railroad because I could just set it on the track and forget about it. If I wanted to run the throttle I could but generally I just turn it on and let it run around for a couple hours till the batteries went flat.
Dale, I two have a USA trains Rotary Plow and have used it to plow snow. It will throw snow properly but I have encountered a few issues when doing so. 1 - The motor does not have enough oomph to clear more than lightly packed snow 1" or less deep. 2 - The mechanism does not gain enough speed to throw properly at voltages which allow for realistic control of the pusher locomotive. I'd suggest as part of your rebuild project add both a beefier motor and make the thing battery powered, radio controlled using the tender as battery storage.
My original plan back when I bought this 25 years ago Ir so was to put a heavier motor and a rechargeable motorcycle battery in there! But now with DCC I’m thinking of running it off of DCC so that I can turn the rotor on and off and even change directions from the controller. But I still will probably want to put a much heavier motor in there
The backdrop buildings look great. I'm sure, with your skills, you can come up with something very similar at a fraction of the cost to fill in more of the backdrop. In the UK, on outdoor layouts that use tar paper, they seem to favour the heavier type that you torch onto the wood to stop it lifting. Very picturesque with the snow too
Tim McCoy wife's account. Wife and I lived on the Oregon Coast. Gloria had done a lot of traveling in Europe and Britain. One time she was in Edinburgh and was walking with her Scots cousin's. They ran into this older gentleman, the weather was about 12C cloudy,windy,not raining."Nice day " he said . Gloria replied:"Nice day" being from the Oregon Coast it was true We both have Scots ancestry. I'd like to see Scotland some day.
@@tgmccoy1556 Ha ha! I have seen footage of Oregon and it has a bit of Scotland about it! I'm usually pretty impervious to the cold but the coldest I have ever been was an evening in Edinburgh! ;-)
It's a mythical thing known only to Western Americans and Australians. I'm in Southern California I've heard of rain but I've never actually seen it myself. (That's a joke of course... It does rain but not very often and only in the dead of winter.)
Ey lad. We have that here. It was imported from Mexico over 100 years ago. Kept t the snow, and the sun. We usually see about 110 degrees Fahrenheit swings across the year. Sometimes as much as 140°! Makes model railroading outdoors a little bit difficult. You do live in a wonderland. My grandma was from Bradford. A bit sour of you. But by western US norms anything under 300 miles is the neighborhood
I was so curious about this project, almost thought you had given up on it. Should have known better. Your solution on the decking is exactly what I was thinking of. FYI, on my Honda Super Cub I stained and urethaned OSB platform which shoulders the strapping for my saddlebags. The OSB is double zip tied to the luggage rack beneath. It is 1 1/2yrs of use and looks like the day I put in on. Same treatment for an outdoor table whose glass top fractured. I set my astronomy gear on this treated OSB insert. Lifts out and stores in the garage. The urethane is a water based coating which holds up extremely well. Your layout is coming together very nicely and looks wonderful. Can hardly wait for it to be done.
Cut off the red and black sleeves on the top side track power. You can mix powdered pigments to the color you need with silicone caulking. That will give you a color matched waterproof seal on your eyelets.
Yep the plan now is to go back and paint out the colors on those connections. And then the entire track is going to be ballasted in brown aquarium gravel. It’s too expensive to use on the ground level rail road but up here the fact is it’s a nice clean wash product that easily moves around makes it perfect. Also if the brown is readily available and even 35 pound bags for not a lot of money. So that should look good and will cover up all the red and black wires and all I need to hide are the spade logs
Here Long Island New York we use a lot of ‘pressure-treated’ lumber and plywood. It stays sturdy no matter water, winds, freezing or sunlight. It’s guaranteed to last for 30 years. And yes, we do sometimes suffer 100 degree weather.
@@ToyManTelevision - I use 3/4 inch pressure treated plywood and it has never warped. But there are probably other companies selling them where you live with different chemicals applied within. I love your outside layout so far.
Hi folks, I wish my weather problem was a lot of sun but unfortunately my problem is the normal UK weather system of plenty of rain and at the moment my outside layout is under 2 inches of snow which for a '00 gauge' 1:76 scale is a bit of problem at the moment. I see you have used a similar deck construction to the one I have used, roofing felt is excellent to protect the timber deck, mine uses 3 inch treated fence posts and the deck is 6 inch by 1 inch treated timber which I coated with a bitumen coating and then covered it with left-over roofing felt from when I recovered my wife's garden shed, never throw anything away as it will be useful one day. I am assuming you are now a mature person so the height of track bed is rather important, I am 75 so my track varies between 3 foot 6 inches and 4 foot above the ground so my arthritic knees don't suffer too much. Good luck with the progression, I am sure it is going to give many hours of enjoyment when it is "finished".
Hello! Wow OO in the garden! You are brave! But as we know if you get the trains up off the ground not only your knees but the trains do MUCH better. While I love seeing ground level railways the day when we could build and operate such a layout is long past.
The snow scenes looked great ! Your lumber should be seasoned 3-6 months preferably,and kiln dried.Have you considered putting a canopy over the top for the hottest weather ? We don't get snow here (once-2011)usually and summer temps are 20-30 C in Levin,N.Z.Further north and south we do,but we are in the middle bit with mostly mild climate.
Know how you feel on electric, took me awhile, but I finally found a solid electrician. Took forever! Love your customized LGB mogul! Could I pick your brain one day on how you did that so nicely? Have two 2019s, one is perfect and one needs some serious restoration, and a lot of the parts are missing and impossible to get (been trying to find the snowplow and bead trap stack forever ), so I would love to replicate something like what you have done. Layout is looking fantastic !🍿👏🏻😍 that MALLAY! 😂🤷🏻♂️👏🏻 (yea, mallet) I finished restoring one of the two, and that’s that on parts I can find, time to go custom! Awesome snowcat and rotary snow plow !! I need a Christmas card 😂🤷🏻♂️
Hi! Yeah that one mogul it’s in the video is my oldest Mogul. It started off in life is what I like to call the circus mogul! But it’s that very first one with the really bright red color. So where the paint is scratch to see bright red plastic underneath there. For quite some time I had it dressed out for Rio Grande Southern. Anyway repainted it about 20 years ago to Colorado central. The stack is brass I don’t remember who made it but it was a brass casting that you could buy. Reworked the pilot with just some sheet plastic and stuff. The coal bunker ditto it’s all just cheap plastic form in to hold actual coal. Usually runs really well but as it hadn’t moved in 20 years it has a bit of a hitch to it’s get along. Just needs a little running in and I think but maybe some lubrication?
@@ToyManTelevision Yes sir thank you for all of the good information as soon as I finish restoring this Santa Fe bluebonnet LGB model I will move onto the Colorado and southern once again. It does indeed look like mine did prior to opening the bottom and losing it up I will give that a shot for sure
Love your project I have one of those LGB Mallets !!slowly Im building a outdoor G railway Its elevated a minimum of 24 inches so I can get the push mower under it Im building it out of steel 1 inch X 1/8 thick angle for the track bed rolled the curves in my shop ( I have a metal fab shop ) the spacers under it are 3 1/4 inches makes it right for how wide I need it using 2 X 1/8 box for the uprights the yard is not flat (berm walls underground house )so they are all are different long after cut they are dipped in red oxide primer to coat them inside and out to prevent rust and set in concrete 16 inches deep Im only having a 150 foot loop no turn outs and welding 1/4 round stock offset L shaped that looks like telegraph poles a single conductor on ceramic fence insulators to put a drop every 10 feet so I have no low voltage issues I am planning to use flex track so I have not as many joints to solder My partner worked out ( masters in math LOL ) that brass verses steel will have 1/4 inch expansion difference per 100 feet so ILL secure the track with self drilling screws left a bit loose see what happens learned that I need a drain hole in the uprights so water does not stand and freeze and split the metal !! remaining uprights will be set in gravel in the bottom then concrete poured not doing it backwards that collected water !
It didn’t on the old railroad. In fact because of the way it was hooked up I never lost power to any section of that railroad ever. The lugs I’m using are tinned brass and they are bolted directly to stainless steel. Seems to work OK
PLAN YOUR WORK AND WORK YOUR PLAN BE SAFE AND CAREFUL MASK UP WHEN YOU GO OUT ENJOY YOUR SCREWING AROUND TIME I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIDEO AND INFORMATION. JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA 👌😷😁👍
We've been working on our own outdoor garden railroad vision and I've been looking into battery-powered trains. I have never had much luck with track power, especially outdoors. Is this something you've considered? Seems like the ideal solution by my way of thinking...which is often flawed.
HI Stressless-- I use RailPro on my outdoor F scale. I've converted two engines , a 2 truck shay and a 10 wheeler. Working to convert a Connie and a 3 truck shay next. Good system.
My K36 has air wire. Not sure what exactly I want to do but yes I love battery power. It just depends really how many locomotives you want to run because it gets kind of expensive
When your track-powered engine crosses over the insulated joint you will still have a direct short due to the multiple axles on the engine. I'm sure you know this but did not address this situation in this video.
I would have put the reversing section on the loop itself, keeping same power orientation on the double track. That would avoid this nasty crossover issue.
Given my track plan I only need to reverse direction to go back inside the building. Moreover I wanted to be able to use the double track section as a passing track. So it’s a little bit diabolical. But the entire eastbound mean between the switches and including the switches will be at the reverse loop. That way I can take a train all the way around the West Loop, onto the double track, through the crossover and then back inside the garage without having to back in. Once inside I can turn the locomotive on the turntable. Certainly not the normal way of this would be done but if I have worked it out right and I sure hope I have, It will be great
A great project. Keep up the good work. Hope it lasts through years of weather. How do you cope with rain or snow melt given the underlay is roof felt and should be water proof and you have an edge on the track area? Where I live we don't have snow problems but plenty of heat problems for garden railways.
Nice Job! I cant wait to see when its finished! Feels kinda nice when you actually get to run trains the first time dont it? :) (even if you have to run extension cords)
how are you doing on rainy days? are you also putting some holes so that not having a puddle of water on your deck? or are you modeling also sewers? maybe the background house. also finding in a secondhand store? put next time few figures for your christmas card.
My original plan and I’m just not sure I’m going to stay with that, was to drill 5 inch holes in various strategic places and then put plant pots in those holes connected to drip lines from the sprinklers below implant Alberta Spruces in them.
Dale, Thank you thank you!!! I know you and Karen have tons of projects to do but I've been wanting for weeks for you too get back to your railroad. That top covering looks like cork board good choice !! Or you putting down blast on the outside track ?? Still having a hard time trying to find those plaques you use for outdoor buildings.
I love those connections from the bus to the drop downs. Where do you get those? You mentioned your drop downs were 22 gauge but what size is the bus wire? Love your videos and your explanation of what works and where you had issues. That really helps everyone, around the world. I noticed some of your comments are from overseas. How cool!!
When I get the power hooked up out there that’s one of the things I wanna do is to get that bus line running around to do inside so I don’t have to drape cords in the wet snow. And then if we want to run the snow plow we can just turn it on and run it!
I do have a plan for drainage up there. First I need to see where water pools. I also want to actually bring water up there because I want to have some actual plantains so I’ve figured out a way to tie into the sprinkling system with some drip lines so will be water coming and going!
Yes it is! Need to finish it, get the hand grabs on in some weathering. I’m thinking of painting the black tender the same gray to match I think that will look better. The coal bunker which doesn’t exist at all on that model needs to be covered over as that’s what they did with the rotaries to keep the snow off the coal. load. And then for years I’ve been debating if I want to put on board batteries which was my original plan or now with DCC to make it run from DCC so I can turn the rotary on and off and even reverse the direction of the rotor!
Officially sun kinks are called thermal misalignments. Lay track at the hottest ambient temperature of the region. On the real railroad they lay track and then heat the track with rail heaters. (let's say at Palm springs that would heat it to 122° and in Eugene Oregon they would lay it at 95°) then all's the track can do is shrink it cannot expand anymore. I don't know if there's an artificial way of you heating your track without damaging it.
And the idea of leaving the track outside in 105° heat doesn’t sound very appealing! So what I’m doing is just trying to predict the expansion based on my test piece that I put down earlier. Hopefully I’ve left it off gap and if not then I will fix it! I do know with the prototype rail I saw a very interesting video on this as their role in the rail they’re actually using two different kinds of metal in the inner core of metal is hardened as the outer core is rolled over it in under pressure sort of like priestess concrete. Anyway it helps prevent expansion and contraction
Is 22 and 12 gauge wire too small? For my 2r o scale I am using 10 gauge bus and 14 gauge feed with connections every track section. In the past I used 12 and 16 and found the voltage drop was too high.
Hum... don’t know. I’ve always used 12 gauge. The drops at so short (pun) that the drop seems nonexistent. I suspect if I ran 4 FAs that could be a problem. On my old railroad I also had the buss tied to power in three places. This will be different, fed from one point near the center.
I looked through the comments so as not to repeat, so here goes. You mentioned waiting for the electrician to wire into the panel. Unless there is an ordinance that this must be done by a certified electrician you should be able to do this yourself since you do all the other wiring. I'm not a certified electrician but but back in the day I installed about 20 electric services, mostly 200 amp, got them inspected and the utility energized them. Wiring into the panel is a lot easier than running the circuit wiring.
I had more to type but I hit the send arrow, sorry about that. Here's more. Take off the panel cover and check things out. Seems like wiring into the panel frightens most folks, just don't stand bare foot in a puddle of water on a concrete floor and you should be fine. Since this is for an outdoor circuit you will need to hookup to a Ground Fault Interrupter (GFI) breaker. There should be at least one in the panel where receptacles close to water are connected (like bathroom and kitchen). However I would recommend that you put the new wire on its own dedicated circuit. You can take your time examining everything the panel before tinkering if you so choose. Advice can be had where you purchase you electrical supplies. For a new circuit you will need space in the panel, i.e. the bus bar. If none is available we're talking a sub feed panel here. That's a bit more complicated. Then you'll have to wait for your electrician when ever that happens. Good luck.
Hi. Yeah I am I’m a little hesitant to tie into the breaker box for a couple of different reasons. I have done that in the past but I always find it unnerving. But in this case I can’t find a main shut off for the breaker panel! I’m not sure about the electrician who put this in a few years ago, but I don’t see your main breaker. There must be one but there doesn’t appear to be one. So how do you work on a breaker panel if you can’t kill the power to it? Moreover what I’d like to do just kind of us a fun thing is I’ve got this old old old motor breaker for a huge industrial motor that’s in our Square D panel it’s really old and that’s hanging on the back of the building. So I brought the wires over to bear and what I’d like to do is tie that into this huge switch I’m turn the whole railroad on by throwing that switch. But I’m not sure that old panel is safe. And I have no idea how to hook that big switch into the breaker box. It used to be hooked to the breaker box until the cabling is all still there it’s just unhooked at the breaker box. But I can’t figure out how to shut off the power to the breaker box! And I’m not sure it’s safe to be using a big motor controller to turn on the lights in the backyard. Pretty sure it would be fine. Anyway I want to get a licensed electrician to do all of that I was supposed to meet blowing myself up!
@@ToyManTelevision In my days of doing electrical work (on the side) I came across two instances where sub feed panels (one without a main breaker) were installed. Problem for me at least is add up all the breaker amps and that usually exceeds the capacity of the service entrance cable. Some places permit this, I'm not a fan. If that is the case at the Garage Hall (did I get that right?), there are two fixes best for someone with a little more experience. Install an appropriate breaker, i.e. 100 or 200 amp and run the service entrance cable through that and it will energize the bus bar or replace the panel with a dedicated main panel (that's a lot more of changing wires). In either case the electric meter will have to be pulled, of course, with the permission of the utility company since a seal will need to be cut. Here's good news, I'm finished buggy you about this, at least.
Thats so cool!!! Looking forward to seeing more trains running on the layout. Seeing the snow plow and snowmobile on the layout was amazing!!! Will the layout have a turn table and if you wanted to can you run a big boy on you layout? Also, did you guys get to watch that video I shared with you on the locomotives in the ocean?
Hi. Yes there will be a turntable of the engine shop inside but no way couldn’t turn a big boy! It’s going to have a 36 inch bridge in that in and of itself is a monster problem. I guess I didn’t see that video I chased a lot of links but I don’t remember seeing locomotives in the ocean. Do you remember which video you responded to so I can go looking for the link?
@@ToyManTelevision hi. It is in the video link is in the comments in the last dirt the cat video you posted. Unfortunately it has now been blocked by TH-cam for copyright issues. I will try to find an article and put it in the comments section for you. Sorry for the delay.
Expansion joints required. Probably expansion joints need to be spaced every 10 ft or so. Recommend asking an engineer for advice on temperature expansion and placement of joints
On my old railroad I had all of those joints clamped tight. I counted on the fact that the track was free to move around in the battle list and head curves and very few Street sections. The curves would simply get broader or near her with the temperature
No lox is like antisize,gets on everything, marine ply or backerboard type ship lap siding but putting that "desert sand 90# will help..why don't you just run S.O.cord to a D box, ( distribution) then no electrician required? As always, my best to you 2 you'll get-er-done Thanks for starting our Sundays with a hoot,Toot-toot ...
Right now the cable goes over to an old old old existing box on the side of the building. Which to mix through to the circuit breakers on the inside but it’s disconnected there. So I’d like him to look that over and if wiring in the old box is good hook it back up and connect my outdoor Romax to that
I love you guy's keep it up, Great show
Next Sunday we’re building the road crossing on the switch in yard inside. When the weather turns bad we go inside when it turns better we go outside! That’s the advantage of having a railroad that’s both in and outside
Wow!!! You say, "lets run some trains' and the first thing I see is No. 50, one of my favorites. I like 2-6-6-2 tank locos. Thanks, my heart fluttered just a little. ;-)
Have you seen our video with Uinta 50 on the worlds largest backyard railroad?
@@ToyManTelevision OH yes, I sure did.
Looks great! Later once you get the power to the tracks you need to plow some snow that will look great! Thanks for sharing!👍
You guys are still amazing! What a wonderful video. Thank you so much for sharing. ❣️
Thanks
You kidlets; aren't you so glad you're, over the top, enterprising? This seems to me, to be a whole lot of work for a hobbyist, in their early 20s, but Dale and Karen, you're plowing through your golden years and the energy level is remarkable. The results, however, are exhilarating. I always remember, my parents had often said, the family that can play together will stay together. The same can also be said about praying together. What a glorious project you've initiated, and it's obvious, that you're very pleased with the progression. So, keep up the wonderful effort.
Yeah it seems our entire lives revolve around going over to the garage and just building cool stuff. Nothing wrong with that especially in the middle of a pandemic! And next summer we’re hoping to get back to traveling in a bit to
What a great update! I am always so interested in hearing how you two are getting along with the garden railroad.
Looks great so far!
I just love your creativity! Layout looks soooooooooo real!w👍✌️😊🙏🏼🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂
I love that Frosty the Snowman mail truck. All you need is a little Fred Astaire driving it and singing!
Pressure treated wood is prone to twisting because there is so much moisture in it to start. In fact when we rebuilt our balcony I did a lot of research and a couple contractors said don’t use it for your posts because the bottom half can’t be tied together with a lateral rail as it rises above our patio and we need to walk under it. We used Douglas Fir which the previous owners used years before, and then Trex composite decking and their PVC railing and post covers. I think had your lamp posts been tied together with a lateral 2x4 and then the diagonal and horizontal pieces at the top had strong ties (brackets) connecting them with carriage bolts they would have not twisted.
THAT IS SO AWESOME!! Not everyday you see a layout inside and out. Hope We'll get to see more of your indoor/outdoor g scale layout! 😁
Greetings from Poland :)
My mother had one of those wall hangings (the one with the hotel) in her house. Sadly I haven't seen it for years and it wasn't among her things when she passed. Still, seeing it brought back some fond memories. Thanks!
The one with the mill on it is the hard went to find. The one with the hotel in the western street is actually the easiest to find because that’s the one everyone loved! They’re all over eBay and they’re typically around $50, but the shipping is also about $50! Or score you can bag one with free shipping! Oddly enough those cost $100! So one way or the other if you’re going to spend 100 bucks on one of these things
I have the distinct pleasure of seeing one of those snowblowers up near Snoqualmie. Quite bizarre!
Very nice looking forward to seeing it finished 😀
Next summer the raised garden planter!
That grade crossing looks really nice. Looking forward to the video in regards.
Just stumbled upon your guy's channel after years of not watching! And how fun you mentioned St. George, my in-laws live there!
Love the Uintah #50! Awesome engine.
Did you see the live stream version of that on the worlds largest backyard railroad a few weeks ago?
Awesome outdoor layout!
Thanks
Spectacular job Love the model T snowcat
I saw one of those model T snow cats at the imperial palace car collection in Las Vegas years ago. I understand that car is somewhere on the West Coast now. But some company had a Contract with the post office to convert model tees in the snow cats for postal delivery on the East Coast, the New England states. And a few of those are around in collections.
@@ToyManTelevision I saw on TH-cam there are several clubs that operate the model T snowcats
Great fun watching you build and run the garden railroad...
Thanks! Next week we’re back inside working on that part. Because it’s been snowing. Actually right now it’s great but we’ve been working on site for the last week or so because it’s been so cold
@@ToyManTelevision yep been cold here also so been in the train shed doing work on remote couplers for my diesel switcher/yard engine with the heater on. Stay warm...
I love that winter scene! nice crossing too
Thanks
I am really glad to see how far you have gotten with the railroad, keep it going!
One thing about Covid is we’re getting a lot done with our models. And now with our ice surgeries we really can’t film to driving around so I’ve decided to just do this progress reports on the rail road!
Awesome layout y’all!!! We’re down here in Bradenton, FL. I sure do miss the snow season. BADLY! Stay safe and God bless.🇺🇸
I love the first snow storm just as much as I hate the last one! Nothing wrong with winter it just goes on too long
You too are a hoot! Stay safe! Loved the update and glad you were able to mitigate some of the warping issues. I have a friend who has one of the aluminum bodied Shasta Daylight coaches from 1946 and it's doing the same thing where the body meets the steel base and where all the stainless handirons were attached. Not sure how that Noalox will work on a real scale railcar but worth a shot!
Looking good! Regards Stephen.
I love that building interior! My Wife got a dollhouse kit and we're working on lots of interior details for it now that the building itself is mostly complete. We made some furniture from the scraps from that as well.
She's achieved her childhood dream of owning a great big dollhouse, and I've achieved mine of owning a live steam locomotive!
Next stop - getting one big enough to ride on!
That’s cool.
Fascinating!!
Thanks.
Very nice work ,gives me the ideas I need , mine was on the ground and the weather washed away the ballast gravel so has been taken up, hope you are keeping safe and well....we have just had a 17 people outbreak of covid and panic shutdowns inplace here in Adelaide South Australia we're hoping for the best outcome as the vaccine isn't far off👏👏👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️❤️👀👀👍🏻👍🏻
Dale, Love the T and the snow thrower. Really a nice town to visit.
Hi Kevin! Hope you are well. I’ve always loved these old model T snow cats. As I understand it they were built by a second supplier for the post office
You have done a beautiful job, I love the looks!
Thanks. The weathers turn nice and so we’re planning to get some more work done out there
Didn't know about the hot sun problems, great to know. I saw a real pair of snow skis for a model t when I was young. Recently I purchased a Ford script wrench for a pre WW1 model T. 4 dollars at a garage sale. Your pictures will make great postcards. A very informative video.
I love everything model T from the 09 to the 27. In fact when I was in high school I had a 1927 model T pick up truck
Love your videos. You guys are awesome together. So much talent. Keep the videos coming.
Thanks!!!!
I love the Model T Snow Cat, very beautiful in the snow, all your trains look so cool. Wish I still had my layout I did long ago, HO scale.
Build a new one!
I can't wait to see thisayout in action in the snow!
Yeah I just need to get that wiring issue solved will be fun running in the snow for the first time. That is to say running a railroad in the snow will be fun for the first time ever because in the past when I’ve done it it’s been really a miserable cold experience. Nothing worse than kneeling down in a foot of wet snow.
Coming along nice. 👍
I hope is that next year I can do the garden section. The huge planter box that connects the garage to the grapevine fence. In a perfect world I could also put in the loop if I can get the planter box and I’ll call that great
What a job and yes I used to live in those hot temperatures what a challenge for anything outside. Enjoy working on the railroad! Also loved the miniatures at the start!
The blazing hot sun really makes a mess out of the track. The smell in the water do you have a bad effect on other things but it’s that blazing hot sun that’s the real problem
Yall have done a fantastic job! Im glad yall are finally finishing your layout yall have worked very hard i know youve been waiting to get it up and rolling, again its looking awesome! And yes Christmas cards will be awesome especially with the snow blower just wow!😎 hope everyone is doing ok, im good no Complaints im doing a lot better and finally enjoying screwing around, take care be safe and hope to hear from yall soon have a awesome Thanksgiving
Here is a suggestion, on your crimped lugs use some Marine Heat Shrink tubing over the collar and wire, this will keep the joints from corrosion and losing their conductivity, plus they'll cover up the Red color and blend them with Black coloring, no need to paint!
That looks so amazing!!!! Today I'll be working on restoring models and cleaning up a little abandoned dolly from a fiber glass plant that can carry 300 pounds!!!
Cool project.
@@ToyManTelevision thanks!!! You guys also have a very cool project
@@ToyManTelevision hay if you ever think about selling those vintage kemtron F Units. I would like to buy them and I treat them very well!! But they are yours so do as you with them
Love this one. It's cool. Great job.
Thanks!!
Looks great 👍
Thanks!!
Great video. Nice locos. Looks like fun.
It’s really going to be fun when it has a loop to loop truck plan out there and K’NEX to the inside
Great! I love rotary snowplows!
I’ve been debating actually putting a battery on board that. Still not sure if I want to do that or not but I think that would be a really neat thing to be able to do. But if I get the DCC working outside so it may as well just run from that
Far to neat! Or as they say on the East coast, wickedly awesome. Another great video. You guys continually out do yourselves.
Boston. Just wicked awesome.
It looks fantastic Dale! Having it off the ground is definitely the way to go your joints will thank you!
You’re one way or the other you will be adjusting your joints. Either your real joints or your knees and your hip! But that’s the nature of garden railroading.
“South bound” had me cackling 😂
Good advice. Awesome show!
Thanks!!
Great work. For the bumpers, if you don't overspeed, just tie a tie over the track. I used some wood tie, and tied it with metal wire to both rails. It will block anything train at normal speed, and it is prototype accurate, at least for industrial narrow gauge. Best of it, it's cheap and quick to install.
After the near collision! I took some 4 inch grabber screws and just ran them down between the tires so that they stick up about 3 inches. Easy to remove when the time comes and they definitely will stop a 🚂
Dale, You have some of the neatest toys. Those locomotives that you own and show in this video are awesome. The moving linkages on steam locomotives are what I feel interests people on them. The larger the scale the more focal these parts become.
The backdrops that you have are so neat. How do you find and come up with this stuff. It is a true gift. (Oh be the way it is the heat (the sun) heating up the water in the wood that causes all of the problems.) You and Karyn have are gifted (me not so much) (I usually have to redo things two or three times till I am satisfied . How does Karyn come up with the one line responses to you....
your video about uintah #50 sent me down an expensive rabbit hole to get both of those engines in HO,... i regret nothing
another great video both !
Thanks!!!
Just love it thanks
Thx again I'm watching now
Thanks.
Very nice. Wish I lived closer to be able to come help with your electrical work. Working now on my own version of Garagemajal.
I like the bench work. I hate bending over myself. (Bad back) as always great video! Absolutely my favorite TH-cam channel!
Thanks!! Back when I had my garden rail road that was down on the ground I love the look of it but I hated everything else about it! And that was back with my knees and hips and everything actually worked! But I had all kinds of old cushions and stuff that I would lay on the ground for kneeling on when I was working on the ground just bringing trains out from in the house and getting them on to the track was a hassle
Come on down to Texas in August when it’s 120 degrees in the direct sun. Then you will understand.
You are going to turn into Ken Patterson with the train photography you can make now.
The Model T looks like something Professor Fate would have built like in the movie The Great Race! LOL
Looks fantastic you two! Seems like there is always problems looking for solutions on the Railroad...One of my solutions was to skip most track wiring and go the battery car route with remote. Thanks for the early Christmas card video!
On my old railroad I had two trains that ran on batteries. One of which was a rail bus. And that one got more use than any other thing on the entire railroad because I could just set it on the track and forget about it. If I wanted to run the throttle I could but generally I just turn it on and let it run around for a couple hours till the batteries went flat.
Dale, I two have a USA trains Rotary Plow and have used it to plow snow. It will throw snow properly but I have encountered a few issues when doing so.
1 - The motor does not have enough oomph to clear more than lightly packed snow 1" or less deep.
2 - The mechanism does not gain enough speed to throw properly at voltages which allow for realistic control of the pusher locomotive.
I'd suggest as part of your rebuild project add both a beefier motor and make the thing battery powered, radio controlled using the tender as battery storage.
My original plan back when I bought this 25 years ago Ir so was to put a heavier motor and a rechargeable motorcycle battery in there! But now with DCC I’m thinking of running it off of DCC so that I can turn the rotor on and off and even change directions from the controller. But I still will probably want to put a much heavier motor in there
I live in Scotland - what is this "hot sun" of which you speak?!
The backdrop buildings look great. I'm sure, with your skills, you can come up with something very similar at a fraction of the cost to fill in more of the backdrop. In the UK, on outdoor layouts that use tar paper, they seem to favour the heavier type that you torch onto the wood to stop it lifting. Very picturesque with the snow too
Tim McCoy wife's account.
Wife and I lived on the Oregon Coast. Gloria had done a lot of traveling in Europe and Britain. One time she was in Edinburgh and was walking with her Scots cousin's. They
ran into this older gentleman, the weather was about 12C cloudy,windy,not raining."Nice day " he said . Gloria replied:"Nice day" being from the Oregon Coast it was true
We both have Scots ancestry.
I'd like to see Scotland some day.
@@tgmccoy1556 Ha ha! I have seen footage of Oregon and it has a bit of Scotland about it! I'm usually pretty impervious to the cold but the coldest I have ever been was an evening in Edinburgh! ;-)
It's a mythical thing known only to Western Americans and Australians. I'm in Southern California I've heard of rain but I've never actually seen it myself. (That's a joke of course... It does rain but not very often and only in the dead of winter.)
Ey lad. We have that here. It was imported from Mexico over 100 years ago. Kept t the snow, and the sun. We usually see about 110 degrees Fahrenheit swings across the year. Sometimes as much as 140°! Makes model railroading outdoors a little bit difficult. You do live in a wonderland. My grandma was from Bradford. A bit sour of you. But by western US norms anything under 300 miles is the neighborhood
I was so curious about this project, almost thought you had given up on it. Should have known better. Your solution on the decking is exactly what I was thinking of. FYI, on my Honda Super Cub I stained and urethaned OSB platform which shoulders the strapping for my saddlebags. The OSB is double zip tied to the luggage rack beneath. It is 1 1/2yrs of use and looks like the day I put in on. Same treatment for an outdoor table whose glass top fractured. I set my astronomy gear on this treated OSB insert. Lifts out and stores in the garage. The urethane is a water based coating which holds up extremely well.
Your layout is coming together very nicely and looks wonderful. Can hardly wait for it to be done.
Cut off the red and black sleeves on the top side track power. You can mix powdered pigments to the color you need with silicone caulking. That will give you a color matched waterproof seal on your eyelets.
Yep the plan now is to go back and paint out the colors on those connections. And then the entire track is going to be ballasted in brown aquarium gravel. It’s too expensive to use on the ground level rail road but up here the fact is it’s a nice clean wash product that easily moves around makes it perfect. Also if the brown is readily available and even 35 pound bags for not a lot of money. So that should look good and will cover up all the red and black wires and all I need to hide are the spade logs
Here Long Island New York we use a lot of ‘pressure-treated’ lumber and plywood. It stays sturdy no matter water, winds, freezing or sunlight. It’s guaranteed to last for 30 years. And yes, we do sometimes suffer 100 degree weather.
It’s just the warping that’s giving me a problem. I think the wood was not seasoned very well if at all.
@@ToyManTelevision - I use 3/4 inch pressure treated plywood and it has never warped. But there are probably other companies selling them where you live with different chemicals applied within.
I love your outside layout so far.
Hi folks, I wish my weather problem was a lot of sun but unfortunately my problem is the normal UK weather system of plenty of rain and at the moment my outside layout is under 2 inches of snow which for a '00 gauge' 1:76 scale is a bit of problem at the moment. I see you have used a similar deck construction to the one I have used, roofing felt is excellent to protect the timber deck, mine uses 3 inch treated fence posts and the deck is 6 inch by 1 inch treated timber which I coated with a bitumen coating and then covered it with left-over roofing felt from when I recovered my wife's garden shed, never throw anything away as it will be useful one day. I am assuming you are now a mature person so the height of track bed is rather important, I am 75 so my track varies between 3 foot 6 inches and 4 foot above the ground so my arthritic knees don't suffer too much. Good luck with the progression, I am sure it is going to give many hours of enjoyment when it is "finished".
Hello! Wow OO in the garden! You are brave! But as we know if you get the trains up off the ground not only your knees but the trains do MUCH better. While I love seeing ground level railways the day when we could build and operate such a layout is long past.
The snow scenes looked great ! Your lumber should be seasoned 3-6 months preferably,and kiln dried.Have you considered putting a canopy over the top for the hottest weather ? We don't get snow here (once-2011)usually and summer temps are 20-30 C in Levin,N.Z.Further north and south we do,but we are in the middle bit with mostly mild climate.
I beams for stringers help with the warping
Know how you feel on electric, took me awhile, but I finally found a solid electrician. Took forever!
Love your customized LGB mogul! Could I pick your brain one day on how you did that so nicely? Have two 2019s, one is perfect and one needs some serious restoration, and a lot of the parts are missing and impossible to get (been trying to find the snowplow and bead trap stack forever ), so I would love to replicate something like what you have done. Layout is looking fantastic !🍿👏🏻😍 that MALLAY! 😂🤷🏻♂️👏🏻 (yea, mallet)
I finished restoring one of the two, and that’s that on parts I can find, time to go custom! Awesome snowcat and rotary snow plow !! I need a Christmas card 😂🤷🏻♂️
Hi! Yeah that one mogul it’s in the video is my oldest Mogul. It started off in life is what I like to call the circus mogul! But it’s that very first one with the really bright red color. So where the paint is scratch to see bright red plastic underneath there. For quite some time I had it dressed out for Rio Grande Southern. Anyway repainted it about 20 years ago to Colorado central. The stack is brass I don’t remember who made it but it was a brass casting that you could buy. Reworked the pilot with just some sheet plastic and stuff. The coal bunker ditto it’s all just cheap plastic form in to hold actual coal. Usually runs really well but as it hadn’t moved in 20 years it has a bit of a hitch to it’s get along. Just needs a little running in and I think but maybe some lubrication?
@@ToyManTelevision Yes sir thank you for all of the good information as soon as I finish restoring this Santa Fe bluebonnet LGB model I will move onto the Colorado and southern once again. It does indeed look like mine did prior to opening the bottom and losing it up I will give that a shot for sure
Love your project I have one of those LGB Mallets !!slowly Im building a outdoor G railway Its elevated a minimum of 24 inches so I can get the push mower under it Im building it out of steel 1 inch X 1/8 thick angle for the track bed rolled the curves in my shop ( I have a metal fab shop ) the spacers under it are 3 1/4 inches makes it right for how wide I need it using 2 X 1/8 box for the uprights the yard is not flat (berm walls underground house )so they are all are different long after cut they are dipped in red oxide primer to coat them inside and out to prevent rust and set in concrete 16 inches deep Im only having a 150 foot loop no turn outs and welding 1/4 round stock offset L shaped that looks like telegraph poles a single conductor on ceramic fence insulators to put a drop every 10 feet so I have no low voltage issues I am planning to use flex track so I have not as many joints to solder My partner worked out ( masters in math LOL ) that brass verses steel will have 1/4 inch expansion difference per 100 feet so ILL secure the track with self drilling screws left a bit loose see what happens learned that I need a drain hole in the uprights so water does not stand and freeze and split the metal !! remaining uprights will be set in gravel in the bottom then concrete poured not doing it backwards that collected water !
Can't wait for the next instalment of the project.🚂🚃🚃🚃 Will weather, 🌨🌨🌩 effect the surface electrical connections? 🤔🤨
It didn’t on the old railroad. In fact because of the way it was hooked up I never lost power to any section of that railroad ever. The lugs I’m using are tinned brass and they are bolted directly to stainless steel. Seems to work OK
Post script: The roof felt is a neat idea. It hides a lot of sins. The track, trains, and scenery will hide the seams.
I just scored the Saloon/General store/Hotel wall hanging at a flea market for $60., I have been looking for one since I first saw your video.
Cool!!!!!!! That’s the best one. Good price too.
Come to Cash West Virginia and you’ll see Shay and Hysler and climax steam locomotives operate
Good morning! Its rather early this morning. Still lov your videos though.
I’ve started publishing videos at 8:30 AM East Coast instead of mountain.
PLAN YOUR WORK AND WORK YOUR PLAN BE SAFE AND CAREFUL MASK UP WHEN YOU GO OUT ENJOY YOUR SCREWING AROUND TIME I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIDEO AND INFORMATION. JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA 👌😷😁👍
Indeed!!!! Thanks!! Stay safe.
We've been working on our own outdoor garden railroad vision and I've been looking into battery-powered trains. I have never had much luck with track power, especially outdoors. Is this something you've considered? Seems like the ideal solution by my way of thinking...which is often flawed.
HI Stressless-- I use RailPro on my outdoor F scale. I've converted two engines , a 2 truck shay and a 10 wheeler. Working to convert a Connie and a 3 truck shay next. Good system.
My K36 has air wire. Not sure what exactly I want to do but yes I love battery power. It just depends really how many locomotives you want to run because it gets kind of expensive
Also try a wedge plough.⛄⛄✳
Yup
When your track-powered engine crosses over the insulated joint you will still have a direct short due to the multiple axles on the engine. I'm sure you know this but did not address this situation in this video.
I would have put the reversing section on the loop itself, keeping same power orientation on the double track. That would avoid this nasty crossover issue.
Given my track plan I only need to reverse direction to go back inside the building. Moreover I wanted to be able to use the double track section as a passing track. So it’s a little bit diabolical. But the entire eastbound mean between the switches and including the switches will be at the reverse loop. That way I can take a train all the way around the West Loop, onto the double track, through the crossover and then back inside the garage without having to back in. Once inside I can turn the locomotive on the turntable. Certainly not the normal way of this would be done but if I have worked it out right and I sure hope I have, It will be great
A great project. Keep up the good work. Hope it lasts through years of weather.
How do you cope with rain or snow melt given the underlay is roof felt and should be water proof and you have an edge on the track area?
Where I live we don't have snow problems but plenty of heat problems for garden railways.
Yup. Going to keep a eye on drainage. And I’ve applied ballast in one area as a test. I’ll show what happens
Nice Job! I cant wait to see when its finished! Feels kinda nice when you actually get to run trains the first time dont it? :) (even if you have to run extension cords)
Are you using Track power? or opting to up grade to "DEAD RAIL"( Air Wire System )?
how are you doing on rainy days? are you also putting some holes so that not having a puddle of water on your deck? or are you modeling also sewers? maybe the background house. also finding in a secondhand store? put next time few figures for your christmas card.
Models and Dutch drains with grates over them.
@@samfuller6273 i hope so... because it made me little bit worry, it is a lot of work
Hum...
My original plan and I’m just not sure I’m going to stay with that, was to drill 5 inch holes in various strategic places and then put plant pots in those holes connected to drip lines from the sprinklers below implant Alberta Spruces in them.
@@ToyManTelevision wait until it rains and mark the low spots. Then drill accordingly.
Dale,
Thank you thank you!!!
I know you and Karen have tons of projects to do but I've been wanting for weeks for you too get back to your railroad.
That top covering looks like cork board good choice !! Or you putting down blast on the outside track ??
Still having a hard time trying to find those plaques you use for outdoor buildings.
Next week we’re back on the inside part putting in the grade crossing in the switching yard. Then on to the locomotive shops
I love those connections from the bus to the drop downs. Where do you get those? You mentioned your drop downs were 22 gauge but what size is the bus wire? Love your videos and your explanation of what works and where you had issues. That really helps everyone, around the world. I noticed some of your comments are from overseas. How cool!!
Hi. Amazon. Bought an assortment pack as I had no idea what to get. The drops are 22 but the buss is 12. Also from Amazon. As are the drops.
Hay when it snows in the winter could you do a snow plowing video that would be cool.
When I get the power hooked up out there that’s one of the things I wanna do is to get that bus line running around to do inside so I don’t have to drape cords in the wet snow. And then if we want to run the snow plow we can just turn it on and run it!
@@ToyManTelevision ok nice👍
do you think drain points would help the area with the roofing material? Don't know how much rain you get
I do have a plan for drainage up there. First I need to see where water pools. I also want to actually bring water up there because I want to have some actual plantains so I’ve figured out a way to tie into the sprinkling system with some drip lines so will be water coming and going!
Is your rotary snowplow actually functional? It would be cool to plow some snow with actual trains once you get the electrical installed!
Yes it is! Need to finish it, get the hand grabs on in some weathering. I’m thinking of painting the black tender the same gray to match I think that will look better. The coal bunker which doesn’t exist at all on that model needs to be covered over as that’s what they did with the rotaries to keep the snow off the coal. load. And then for years I’ve been debating if I want to put on board batteries which was my original plan or now with DCC to make it run from DCC so I can turn the rotary on and off and even reverse the direction of the rotor!
Officially sun kinks are called thermal misalignments. Lay track at the hottest ambient temperature of the region. On the real railroad they lay track and then heat the track with rail heaters. (let's say at Palm springs that would heat it to 122° and in Eugene Oregon they would lay it at 95°) then all's the track can do is shrink it cannot expand anymore. I don't know if there's an artificial way of you heating your track without damaging it.
And the idea of leaving the track outside in 105° heat doesn’t sound very appealing! So what I’m doing is just trying to predict the expansion based on my test piece that I put down earlier. Hopefully I’ve left it off gap and if not then I will fix it! I do know with the prototype rail I saw a very interesting video on this as their role in the rail they’re actually using two different kinds of metal in the inner core of metal is hardened as the outer core is rolled over it in under pressure sort of like priestess concrete. Anyway it helps prevent expansion and contraction
Is 22 and 12 gauge wire too small? For my 2r o scale I am using 10 gauge bus and 14 gauge feed with connections every track section. In the past I used 12 and 16 and found the voltage drop was too high.
Hum... don’t know. I’ve always used 12 gauge. The drops at so short (pun) that the drop seems nonexistent. I suspect if I ran 4 FAs that could be a problem. On my old railroad I also had the buss tied to power in three places. This will be different, fed from one point near the center.
I looked through the comments so as not to repeat, so here goes. You mentioned waiting for the electrician to wire into the panel. Unless there is an ordinance that this must be done by a certified electrician you should be able to do this yourself since you do all the other wiring. I'm not a certified electrician but but back in the day I installed about 20 electric services, mostly 200 amp, got them inspected and the utility energized them. Wiring into the panel is a lot easier than running the circuit wiring.
I had more to type but I hit the send arrow, sorry about that. Here's more. Take off the panel cover and check things out. Seems like wiring into the panel frightens most folks, just don't stand bare foot in a puddle of water on a concrete floor and you should be fine. Since this is for an outdoor circuit you will need to hookup to a Ground Fault Interrupter (GFI) breaker. There should be at least one in the panel where receptacles close to water are connected (like bathroom and kitchen). However I would recommend that you put the new wire on its own dedicated circuit. You can take your time examining everything the panel before tinkering if you so choose. Advice can be had where you purchase you electrical supplies. For a new circuit you will need space in the panel, i.e. the bus bar. If none is available we're talking a sub feed panel here. That's a bit more complicated. Then you'll have to wait for your electrician when ever that happens. Good luck.
Hi. Yeah I am I’m a little hesitant to tie into the breaker box for a couple of different reasons. I have done that in the past but I always find it unnerving. But in this case I can’t find a main shut off for the breaker panel! I’m not sure about the electrician who put this in a few years ago, but I don’t see your main breaker. There must be one but there doesn’t appear to be one. So how do you work on a breaker panel if you can’t kill the power to it? Moreover what I’d like to do just kind of us a fun thing is I’ve got this old old old motor breaker for a huge industrial motor that’s in our Square D panel it’s really old and that’s hanging on the back of the building. So I brought the wires over to bear and what I’d like to do is tie that into this huge switch I’m turn the whole railroad on by throwing that switch. But I’m not sure that old panel is safe. And I have no idea how to hook that big switch into the breaker box. It used to be hooked to the breaker box until the cabling is all still there it’s just unhooked at the breaker box. But I can’t figure out how to shut off the power to the breaker box! And I’m not sure it’s safe to be using a big motor controller to turn on the lights in the backyard. Pretty sure it would be fine. Anyway I want to get a licensed electrician to do all of that I was supposed to meet blowing myself up!
@@ToyManTelevision In my days of doing electrical work (on the side) I came across two instances where sub feed panels (one without a main breaker) were installed. Problem for me at least is add up all the breaker amps and that usually exceeds the capacity of the service entrance cable. Some places permit this, I'm not a fan. If that is the case at the Garage Hall (did I get that right?), there are two fixes best for someone with a little more experience. Install an appropriate breaker, i.e. 100 or 200 amp and run the service entrance cable through that and it will energize the bus bar or replace the panel with a dedicated main panel (that's a lot more of changing wires). In either case the electric meter will have to be pulled, of course, with the permission of the utility company since a seal will need to be cut. Here's good news, I'm finished buggy you about this, at least.
Thats so cool!!! Looking forward to seeing more trains running on the layout. Seeing the snow plow and snowmobile on the layout was amazing!!! Will the layout have a turn table and if you wanted to can you run a big boy on you layout? Also, did you guys get to watch that video I shared with you on the locomotives in the ocean?
Hi. Yes there will be a turntable of the engine shop inside but no way couldn’t turn a big boy! It’s going to have a 36 inch bridge in that in and of itself is a monster problem. I guess I didn’t see that video I chased a lot of links but I don’t remember seeing locomotives in the ocean. Do you remember which video you responded to so I can go looking for the link?
@@ToyManTelevision hi. It is in the video link is in the comments in the last dirt the cat video you posted. Unfortunately it has now been blocked by TH-cam for copyright issues. I will try to find an article and put it in the comments section for you. Sorry for the delay.
I like to call OSB "Was-wood". 😉
Yes it was.
Forgot to mention Karyns books are neat. To kill a mockingbird!
Expansion joints required. Probably expansion joints need to be spaced every 10 ft or so. Recommend asking an engineer for advice on temperature expansion and placement of joints
On my old railroad I had all of those joints clamped tight. I counted on the fact that the track was free to move around in the battle list and head curves and very few Street sections. The curves would simply get broader or near her with the temperature
Why are you using Aluminum track for track power?? Aluminum doesn't conduct track power very well. It's best for battery power.
Yup. But I have 1200 feet of it! And using the buss it works well. Harder to clean too. But...
Was the station the one Karen built a couple years ago? Looked old
Hi. Nope. That one is special!! We use it under the Christmas tree only.
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No lox is like antisize,gets on everything, marine ply or backerboard type ship lap siding but putting that "desert sand 90# will help..why don't you just run S.O.cord to a D box, ( distribution) then no electrician required?
As always, my best to you 2 you'll get-er-done
Thanks for starting our Sundays with a hoot,Toot-toot ...
Right now the cable goes over to an old old old existing box on the side of the building. Which to mix through to the circuit breakers on the inside but it’s disconnected there. So I’d like him to look that over and if wiring in the old box is good hook it back up and connect my outdoor Romax to that
Awesome layout y’all!!! We’re down here in Bradenton, FL. I sure do miss the snow season. BADLY! Stay safe and God bless.🇺🇸
I’ve often said I love the first snow storm almost as much as I hate the last one! There’s nothing wrong with winter but boy it goes on too long!