Modeling Water on Bottleneck Creek - Testing Woodland Scenics Deep Pour Water on the test section
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- More testing for Bottleneck Creek, this week trying out Woodland Scenics deep pour water.
While our creek and out test section for our creek is not at all deep, but we want to test this product even if other products would also work. In the past, we had used epoxy and polyester casting resin and had...well.. bad luck. One reason to try this product. But as it seems to be good, based on reviews, we needed to test it before using it at Bottleneck Creek.
First much of what comes with the kit is poor (pour?) or useless. The gloves are poor, the mixing cups grand IF you can get the measurement decals on correctly. Which is really hard to do. Our plastic bag had a leak, but we had no idea what the bag was meant to do anyway. BUT.. the resin is GREAT. who cares about all that other stuff.
The resin pours smoothly. Not too thick. NO STINK!!!! No smell at all in fact. Mixes well, and looks great. So we are sold. We will be using our own gloves, making sure to get the decal on correctly, or using a different measuring cup and taking care to NOT spill any on the landscaping.
One of the keys to success is preparing the river, pond, or stream bed. As it shows every detail shows. Which is a good thing on a shallow pond or stream like ours. As this stuff HATES water, everything needs to be dry and clean. And that's about it. On to the REAL Bottleneck Creek. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Love your videos you are the most talented person on this platform
Wow!!!! Thanks!!!!
I wouldn't worry about anything until everything's cured. So much is in the mind of the beholder anyway...looks good to me!
Your talent overwhelms me! Very creative👍✌️😊🙏🏼🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂
Gee! blush! Anyway thanks we’re working so hard on this thing but it’s really starting to show and we’re having a great time with it
I've always marveled at the details on model railroads at shows and a few other layouts but you folks have taken it to a new level! Great work friends I always enjoy your work.
Thanks!!!!!!
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Super nice job wow that’s so realistic that it makes me want to grab my fishing pole and head right over to that beautiful spot and spend the day there.
Thanks!!!!! Have you seen the teal one? This weeks show..
Dale, your water test came out very nice....really like the coattails that Karyn made....very nice and it all came out great.
Hi. Thanks!! Moved on to the teal creek. Now building the locomotive shed
How to make 🐟 in model rail roader. You can make fish out of aluminum foil. You paint the color of the fish on to the aluminum foil.
From Neil Schwerdt
Trying that soon.
Talk about watching paint dry!
The syringe will allow you way more control. You can mix it up in your cup suck it into the syringe and with the needle tip you can put it exactly where you want it.
A masterpiece of superb detail.
I never seen a person use a stick to control where the resin goes. Usually people just pour and hope for the best with things taped up at the ends. Looks great.
Good Job! Looks Outstanding!
Thanks 🙏
Great stuff. I'll have to get some.
Looks really good 👍
Awesome, keep up the great modeling!
Thanks
That experiment section really looks great
The moss looks so real 😊
Hi Dale & Karyn. I’d recommend looking for different beaker sizes as you can get quality plastic ones. When I was doing film photography I had several of them so you wouldn’t need to use a large one. I would also suggest a syringe where you could be more precise. Doing that would eliminate your stick. The results are great! Perhaps you can cover your drips with patches of grass. Put a frog on top of a rock or few. The baby powder and matte white give great results!!! Thanks for sharing! Happy Valentine’s Day and see you Tuesday.
Yeah we just found some on Amazon for really cheap about $.50 apiece. Also for $.90 apiece some syringes for applying the epoxy to the project
Looks amazing toyman!!!
Hi! Thanks!
Super job as usual you guys...just love it...Cheers from Canada and PLEASE...keep these clips coming...just AWESOME...
Hi. Thanks!!
Wow!
I have been looking to do something similar on my layout. It is great watching the video getting some great ideas. Thanks for doing these tutorials and thanks for your hard work sharing!
Do “dive in”. Super fun.
Hi Folks, Really enjoyed this vlog you both are so talented 💖keep up the good work and being transparent and real !!! Thank you 😊
Thanks!!! Lots mor to come. As always!!
Very good! Regards Stephen.
Hi. Thanks.
Great video 👍
Thanks
I attended church virtually, now I do my hobbying virtually.
Does Karyn have _no_ idea what Dale is up to? She is always so pleasantly surprised at each turn of the video.
Dale, give thanks this Valentine's Day for your partner in screwing around.
Hi. Thanks 🙏. Do stay safe. I think we see light ahead. Hope it’s not a headlight. But I think by next summer it will be the roaring twenties all over again. Everyone is so desperate to get living again.
Very, very nice look
Thanks!
Nice tips, good looking scene. I’ll try to copy some of your techniques for future projects. Thnx Dale 👍🏻
Thanks again for watching. Hope it helps
Looks great to me !!
Thanks
Fish? well, make one out of whatever and stick it on a short piece of clear fishing line and poke it into the pond etc. then pour your water. Bingo the fishing line just might disappear, I don't know, just another bob's hair brain idea. Little details like that is what makes the difference in a truly great model and a common place one. Also most folks will not see it, but wonder why the scene looks extra cool. That is the ultimate goal, it looks so real the eye doesn't catch it. Kind of like the old TV ad; "is it real, or is it Memorex". Great video, as always. ;-)
Hi. Trying sculpy and craft wire! Stay tuned.
Coming out great! Can’t wait to see it on the actual railroad! Take care!
Working on the single stall engine house right now as I’m out of rail. But soon we hope to have all the track in and working soon.
@@ToyManTelevision Awesome! Can’t wait to see it! Are you doing an interior in it too?
I have had a lot of success with Liquitex acrylic varnishes - I use the matt one all the time.
Not familiar with it.
Liked learning how to take the gloss off on the rocks. Very good to know. Looks very good. Waiting patiently for Tuesday.
Hi Ken. Yes the gloss creeping up the sides spoils the look. The flat clear really cleans it up. And I love the look of adding talcum
@@ToyManTelevision Need to look into the Woodland Scenic stuff has to be an acrylic of some kind. I would be interested in hearing if you use a heat gun to remove air bubbles and how well it works. Hope all is well with you and Karyn. It was interesting how she can answer you questions before you can. Funny how that happens.
@@kenshores9900 hi. Used a lighter. With a long torch end. I think it helped but not sure so we didn’t show it.
Couple of ideas. Have a few strategic pouring spots where you have removed the rock. Pour in those spots then replace the rock before the resin hardens. AND/OR Pour onto rocks you know will be submerged so it won’t matter if they get “wet”.
The flat clear really works great 😊. And the resin creeps up the banks and the flat clear fixes that too. Really works well.
Cool video by the way
Thanks!!!!
I went to a farm store and bought some large disposable syringes and put the wet water in them so it only goes where you want it. They are handy for other things like glue.
Hi. Thanks for the tip on those logs from Amazon. I just ordered two more sets for the On30 layout. I am replacing the resin logs from Bachmann and will scatter some around the logging site. Also enjoying replacing those chains and links on the skeleton cars. NOT!
They look great too !!
I grew up in Riverside California and you’re right our “river” was pretty pathetic most of the year 😄
I lived on the Casatas “River”. Some years there was no water at all. Most years puddles amidst the rocks. Every 10 years killed people. California....
Shinny water material on top of rocks.Solution brush on Testors Dull cote top coat. Probably require 2 coats min. Also works on covering up AC. accidental glue drops on finished models.
I use the dull coat often to cover up shiny goof spots, it works well.
Testors is the best. Was floquil railroad colors flat clear. I have two bottles Squirreled away. But it’s basically the same thing as the testers which is also really hard to find these days.
Nice job on the creek. The one thing about that deep pore by Woodland scenics is you do tend to get a few bubbles in there and I haven’t been able to figure out how exactly to get those out unless you sit there and watch thing thing dry which who has time for that. You’ll have fun with the static grass, I tried it out for the first time this last year and I absolutely love how it works.
I think the key is to stir it really slow. I have thought about vacuuming it as I actually have a vacuum pump for doing that. That pulls all the air out of anything that you put in there. But then you might get more in there is you pour it into the scenery in fact you will. I have seen a technique that we tried of coming back with a torch and heat in the surface and that will break whatever bubbles sit there but it won’t stop some from rising up.
And dulcote comes in a brushable liquid now adays! Will have to try the powder technique with it.
Yeah when I run out of this stuff I’m going to switch to that. They’re both a lacquer based paint and I swear they’re really the same thing. For some reason all of the testers paints have been off the market. Well we kind of know why testers went broke and was taken over by rust oleum. They’re the ones who made the paint all along in the first place so they’re just re-branding it under the testers name and putting it right back on the market.
Wow! That is turning out very nice! I love how that the sample and the real bottleneck creek is turning out.
Now building the single stall engine house. No rail. So on to other stuff
Looking good ! Hope when i do my creek i get the same sky light reflecting off the water as that is what im after...
Love the look!
One thing to consider is that pond is a Flood Pond being so close to the creek and wouldn't survive the summer.
So not necessary to have fish .
On the other hand I could find a little bit of gold mite settle down in it
We’re going to put fish somewhere up there but probably in a different pond. Karyn made some and they turned out great
AWESOME GOOD VIDEO VERY INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE I SAY GOOD TEST AWESOME GOOD RESULTS YOU BOTH ARE GOOD MODELERS AN THE RESULTS ARE PROOF. HAVE A WONDERFUL WEEKEND AND BE SAFE AND CAREFUL MASK UP WHEN YOU BOTH GO OUT PLEASE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR VIDEO JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA 👍🙏🙏👌😷😷🚂🚂😄😁
Hi. When it’s this cold and snow it’s actually quite pleasant to put on that mask! Especially while shoveling the snow. Also shoveling snow allows for social distancing as nobody wants to involve themselves in that. Anyway stay safe and have a nice day
Excellent video. Use a turkey baster. That way you can put it where you want it.
It would ruin a turkey baster but guess what we just found some syringes that are designed for doing epoxy! $.90 apiece use once and throw away
Those measuring glasses with the scale stickers on the side would be pretty easy to calibrate with a kitchen scale set to measure in grams. Put the cup on the scale and zero it out, then add 100 grams of water to the cup. 100 grams is the same as 100 ml, so just align the 100ml mark on the sticker to the top of the water line.
Found some ready to go on Amazon. Better than The decal.
Dale try using a pipette transferring liquid from the beaker to your layout, I believe it provide you with greater control when placing the liquid.
Are use those for transferring paint and they’re great. But we just found some syringes on Amazon for $.90 apiece that are just perfect for this as they have a really open nozzle. That and some graduated mixing cups
Try a craft store. They have very small fish for small mini gardens that you might be able to use.
We’ve seen those but Karyn really enjoys building them so she just made us an entire school of fish out of sculpy clay. She used the metallic silver as a base and then overlaid that with the translucent tan. Man do they look good
your water scene looks great wish i hadnt used the e-z water by w s cause it turned yellow
Thanks!! Yes this deep pour is great. The other stuff not great at all
Red Solo Cup... you’re my friend... 😆
Burp.
If you make a mistake with the water and spill it a little bit, you could maybe try a little scene with a bucket that someone tipped over. I feel like that would be a good alternative
Hey Dale to apply your epoxy look for dental irrigation syringes or west systems epoxy syringes. I know my local lumber yard carries glue syringes something like that will also work.
Tap Plastics carries syringes for epoxy. Most of the syringes I have used can be used multiple times before becoming unusable.
Hi. Don’t know how to clean it.. but will look into it!
@@ToyManTelevision with the west system syringes most of the time you can pull them apart after the resin hardens and remove the epoxy.
Been searching around on Amazon. Found the West system looks nice. But in the similar products aria found generic ones 10 for nine dollars! So 10 of them are on the way thanks for the tip!
@@ToyManTelevision you are welcome glad I could help you. I've done a lot of work with different resins and fiberglass so you learn tricks to get resin where you want it with out making a mess in the area. The joys of repair work be it composite or metal.
Nice job u two, half way through u read my mind, Karen can figure out some fish, behind a couple of your big rocks dig out a slightly deeper pool, trout will hold in those pools to stay out of the current to conserve energy then dart over to the side of the pool where the current is to eat whatever is coming down stream
Karyn made about 10 fish! Now to make a fishing big foot figure!
Ever see how those folks paint 3D fish in resin buy painting the fish layer by layer depending on size
No!! Interesting 🤔 how can we find that?
@@ToyManTelevision I’d look up 3D fish paintings on TH-cam . It’s on a larger scale but I’m sure the idea can be shrunk down
Great Video. You could paint on mod podge on rocks pour water and peel off mog podge
Thinking of using a syringe to place the water. And then keep using the flat clear. Really love the look. Dry but still”damp”..
@@ToyManTelevision I didn't think about the syringe. thats a great idea.
That big puddle away from the creek (California: river) can be easily accounted for by a nearby cow.
To funny!
@@kenshores9900 I confess have never been a Maryland Dairyer, but must say that I have been among Maryland Dairyers, and I know of what I speak!
When I lived in California on the other side of my street was a cow pasture. Well in fairness there was also buffalo but I digress. Anyway yeah I saw there were lots of mounds of stuff sometimes cow sometimes buffalo
@@ToyManTelevision I need the internet thing for "somewhere between 'LOL' and 'ROTFL'": _Well in fairness there was also buffalo but I digress._
Yes, when wandering amongst the beasts, one must discern not just the _mounds,_ but the _pools_ as well....
@@ToyManTelevision And one would think that with 4 stomachs bovines would do a better job of digesting their food. Didn’t settlers burn cow and Buffalo pies? At least you don’t live in a state that put all their eggs in a wind mill basket. Still no power. Lost track of the number of days.
Tiny cut pieces of silver/grey sewing thread would look like small fish moving through the water
Our scale is so large we can model them. Karyn made some!
Dale, I was wondering if the deep pour says it has reaction with PVA glue. I know Woodland's Realistic water says don't use around PVA glue. So I used Magic Water and I liked it so much I won't ever use anything else. You could have poured it from the top end of the stream and it would have flowed like real water to the lower end without having to pour in several spots, thus avoiding the spills. Also, I'm sure you've heard of Luke Towan from Australia. He does a fantastic job with fish underwater in a diorama. ...Claude
Oh yes just watch that! And Karyn made us a whole school of fish to use in our pond. They turned out really nice there posted on Facebook.
Great video. I wonder if you could use a syringe with that water like product?
We found some epoxy syringes online. .90 each. Work GREAT!
Cool video
Thanks.
Dale,
You could have avoided all that headache and just used clear resin epoxy from Hobby Lobby it works the same way.
This works well. My try’s with epoxy has not worked well. But haven’t tried that. But the WS is great. Even if the kit is silly. The product is great.
Next time try using an eye dropper or a syringe with a tube on the end of the syringe to get the material right where you want it...
A piece of aquarium air tubing fits on the end of a syringe real good. If you're using a larger syringe in the tube on syringe 💉 is bigger than the airline tube all you have to do is take a blow dryer and warm the end of the airline tube and then slide it over the end of your syringe 💉
I sure am enjoy watching you do this you're giving me lots of ideas for mine whenever I decide to get off my butt and get my put together. It's only been about three years since I decided I was going to put it together now I just got to put it together.. LOL...😂😆😂😆
Well you kids keep having fun
Much love and prayers you kids be blessed in Jesus name... BBE 🤗🤗
Hi Bobby. I found mixing cups and syringes for doing epoxy on Amazon. Came today! Huge syringes! Big nozzle. .90 each. Use once and toss. Mixing ups just like the ones that came with the kit but lettered. No stupid decal. So accurate!!
i have using for scale and mesturement of Milimetres. small paint cups with decals on. like some on hardware store can buy it (i think) also cheap for using and buying.
Found some disposable measuring cups on Amazon. Works great
@@ToyManTelevision i used that also and no more decals off with mili litres
Use tweezers to put the rocks in after the water material is down to prevent the tops of th e rocks from looking wet.
I like the rocks into the mud. The flat clear works great 👍
Nice. I never tried such resin "water", as I prefer faking with paint and gloss coat. But these bottles look strange for Woodland Scenics. No branding on them, and a lot of languages! German shouldn't be on it, as it is sold as Noch. Not sure Kato re -brands everything for Japanese market, but I also never seen Japanese on the WS products I have.
The Static King is great, at least compared to the cheap tool I had before. But you need to connect some external power to have it at its full potential (I had some old Braun shavers' power plug with just the good voltage, I just needed to fit the connector).
I applied some static grass just this morning, and the WS static grass glue is a lot easier to use than normal white glue. Don't forget to use several length of static grass to get a good coverage, I go from big to small (but some people do it in the other order), 12mm, 6mm, 4mm and 2mm.
Yeah I’m sure that both of this water product and the static king static grass tool are European made and probably sold in Europe under nock
@@ToyManTelevision I think that Noch is just rebranding most of the WS product, at list for grass and turf, and the static king is a WS orignal, Noch is still selling the flashlight like model (which WS used to rebrand).
Anyway, it is a bit of a pain, as it is hard to find the corresponding reference, WS being not easily available in France. I bought a lot from UK, but I'm not sure how it will go in the future.
How about sticking the rocks into the water with tweezers after you've poured it?
I really like the look of them stuck down in the mud and that works great. The key is to come back and cover up the shiny spots with a flat clear and they look great
In G scale I have seen real water being used. A fountain effect where water is pumped in, drained and, cycled back thru
Yup. Had that on my old layout outside. Thinking of doing that on the outside part of the railroad
How about using a small turkey baster? Or a funnel ?
We found some syringes on Amazon. .90 use once and toss. Perfect 👌🏼
Check out Luke Towan's Build an Ultra-Realistic River in the Alaskan Wilderness
Did! Wow!!!!!! Nice 3D printing too
Amazon has a pack of 60ml syringes with longer snouts with a wider opening that would possibly work great for a little more pinpoint placement of your fake water. Could be worth trying?!?!
Just bought 12. Thanks!!!
Why didn't you start at the top of the stream? Go with the flow,man .I see the reply about the syringe,this would direct the "water" better.Still looks a bit tricky. I have yet to do any water effects,so will follow with interest. You could also try a straw( make a funnel for the top with alu foil) .
Found some epoxy syringes on Amazon. Works great 👍.
Suggestion for apply the Water. What about a medical supply for a big syringe or Dollar store Turkey basters..?
Yeah we’ve been looking all over for something and we actually found some syringes for doing epoxy work. And then a search of Amazon turned them up for only $.90 apiece! Package of 10 so we bought some
Hi Toy Man TV. The test is looking fine. I'd say try something like these to place the "water" -
(google "disposable craft glue bottle aplicator")
Also, I've seen some cast-in fish made by modelling the fish from a piece of shaped styrene, paint the fish, then stick a small diameter pin through some Styrofoam strips and into the top to suspend the fish from above a few mm above a piece of wax paper. Then dribling on some thick "water" resin and letting it drip over the fish and run down to the paper, forming a clear "stand /base". Once it dries, glue them to the river bed and pour the rest of the "water" around them. Viola - fish suspended in the "water"....
Karen is one step ahead of you! She just made us an entire school of fish but out of sculpy clay. She use the metallic silver kind and then overloaded that with the transparent kind that has a tan tint to it. Turned out absolutely perfect! We have been trying to figure out how to mount them to the bottom of the river but something like what you’ve described
I have a question for you guys and anybody that reads this. I recently got into modle building and I am having trouble cleening my brushes. I wash them in hot water after painting, i use modle paint, and the brush still has paint. I tryed brush cleener but it ate the brushes. I am now using paint thiner and it somewat works. I also haveing the issue of the brushes coming apart after going through the cleener. My art teacher thinks that is because the brushes are old, there from my fathers modle building tools from the 60's, so i am concerned about running out of brushes. Can you give me any advice or tips please?
I use lacquer thinner. But it will east some brushes. I’ve loaded up on great but cheep brushes from China on Wish.com.
@@ToyManTelevision Thanks
What about a pipet to place this water in the tight spots. Cheap on amazon for a bag full. Once done. Throw out the pipet. Might work.
Are use those for mixing paint but they’re just not able to pull up something this thick.
But people have been recommending epoxy syringes to do designs for doing this exact thing. And we found them on Amazon for $.90 apiece in a pack of 10. Just want some throw away past they’re going to get full of dried on glue and ruined.
Good morning and happy Sunday Great video oh and by the way The wife the kids and I and father-in-law are coming to the Rat Fink reunion in June Is there a possibility of a meet up
Depend on Covid. Ilean is going forward and the city is giving an OK. But we will see. Looks good so far!!!
@@ToyManTelevision Cool the wife kids and I want to do the golden spike Promentory We will have a few days to see the local sites I hope we get to meet up
Do you have a video on how you made the rock in the water looks like it has moss on it
I think so…. But I just painted it on there before pouring the clear resin.
@@ToyManTelevision thank you for answering me I appreciate it
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Found it!
@@ToyManTelevision thank you 👍😃
How bout using an eye dropper to get down in between the rocks!
We just found some epoxy syringes on Amazon that her he designed for doing this exact thing. Only $.90 apiece so that’s what we’re gonna be using from now on
I had produced O scale fish but sneezed. All gone.
Yup. Don’t breathe
you have a loco train shop ?
in Denver caboose is dead!!!!
fish try some tin foil painted fish colors !
Yup! Shop coming along.
What about an eye dropper?
Looks great!!!
Just bought some syringes. .90 each. Going to try that.
🤔🤔🤔
Disposable pipette❓
Assuming that it isn’t possible to clean the containers etc.
Found mixing cups and syringes on Amazon!!
First
no caboose hobby's is closed permanently and no body sells model trains stuff hear.
Sucks. But there are shops out there. Just need to shop by internet or phone I guess.