do influencers have a responsibility to be good people?

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  • influencer...influenza...hm
    who are some influencers/celebs you admire and who are some that you don't get the hype?
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  • @yonyokai4593
    @yonyokai4593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +685

    The thing is that everyone has the responsibility to be decent, when someone does something bad, if they’re an influencer or not you call them out,

    • @Kaybye555
      @Kaybye555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      This is my opinion too. They just have more attention but that's part of it. You don't get the privilege of being famous without having those eyes on you. I get people get crazy about nothing but when they are doing general BAD things I think it's good they get called out 🤷‍♀️

    • @natalia-jp1tm
      @natalia-jp1tm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      and that’s totally understandable the problem is the cancellation thing

  • @kateflynn4782
    @kateflynn4782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +498

    I voted yes in the poll, my mind isn’t fully made up... like I’m on the fence tbh, I definitely feel like if you are making money off your career as a influencer you should consider the impact of what you post on your following, like a little thought might go a long way sometimes. However influencers don’t owe us perfection. The reasons influencers get “cancelled” or called out get so petty though, save your energy for serious issues and learn to judge morality outside of your favourite influencers.
    And 100% agree on the point about politics, people should form political opinions from more varied and insightful sources than their favourite influencers. Like why do you think a fashion influencer should be teaching us about the impacts of capitalism... enjoy the style tips and calm down babes.

    • @MadisynBrown
      @MadisynBrown  3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      all facts

    • @margaux5308
      @margaux5308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      totally agree! they should be able to make mistakes but are literally called influencers so they influence people.

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  • @EmmaxoOCE
    @EmmaxoOCE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +337

    i think if you’re an ‘influencer’ the name says enough. you influence your audience, you don’t have to be perfect but don’t do illegal shit lmao.
    edit; but people getting mad over influencers lifestyle choices especially when the people judging them do stupid shit as well is enough to think that sometimes their criticisms are hypocritical lol

  • @carmenyt
    @carmenyt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    here in the future hearing “James Charles was found not to be a sexual predator” 😭🖐

    • @sunny...3602
      @sunny...3602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LMAO same

    • @Dtzeo503
      @Dtzeo503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This video didn't age well. Hopefully she talks more about this issue.

    • @Dtzeo503
      @Dtzeo503 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notsaying8300 ?

    • @YearOnACloud
      @YearOnACloud 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dtzeo503 it’s true lmao

  • @sanjana4876
    @sanjana4876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    at a normal 9-5 job, you don't get to pick and choose what responsibilities you want to have...the same should apply to influencers. if they're making money off of us, you have a responsibility to us and not make stupid decisions so publicly. esp bc most 'huge' influencers have a lot of children in their audience.
    when it comes to politics and social issues, i agree. a lot of times these privileged people end up spreading more harm than good and speak over Black activists. also it's pushing this idea that posting on tiktok and social media is activism, which it's not (i feel like that's a whole other topic lol)
    with the bestdressed thing...she's done a lot of lowkey insensitive things (imo) and i honestly don't think anyone's trying to cancel her. in general, i don't think cancel culture is even real...like no one who's gotten "canceled" has ever faced real/long-term repercussions.
    love the video :) I'm rlly enjoying your channel!

    • @HighAsHeckPriestess
      @HighAsHeckPriestess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Being responsible with influence doesn't have to mean they stop having human experiences, and that's the real point.

  • @matthewsullivan3804
    @matthewsullivan3804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I think the internet can really bring out the worst in people, especially the people that love drama and go out of their way to cause drama and hate at other people's expense just cos its exciting for them.
    imo noone has a responsibility to be an activist, or supporting charities and shit. HOWEVER i think influencers do have a responsibility to be good people, just like the rest of us. to me being a good person just means not hurting people and taking responsibility for your actions. it DOESNT mean caring about everyone or trying to help everyone. its enough to care about people that are close to you and that help you, and noone on the internet is close to you.
    travelling during a pandemic isnt bad cos youre setting a bad example, its bad cos youre risking people's health, and you need to take responsibility for that.

  • @yafavegirljas
    @yafavegirljas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    girl, this video are exactly my thoughts. I made the same video on my channel a while back as well but omg the best dressed situation ticked me off entirely. Like, as I watched those videos there was NOTHING that made best dressed problematic everyone just sounded jealous of her success tbh! I also feel like the WORST comments are like when people say " famous people signed up for fame, they should be good role models"??? Like what? We as a society make stupid people famous every single day and now we expect them to be the pinnacle of morality? IT'S NOT CLICKING BABES 😂 and like you said, it's okay for people to have different opinions than you; FORM YOUR OWN OPINIONS & leave the sheep behaviour for actual sheep pls

    • @MadisynBrown
      @MadisynBrown  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      loved your video! glad that a fellow sisterrrr is sharing my perspective on this

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  • @gialee4640
    @gialee4640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I feel like at first, call-outs were amazing for removing dangerous people from power, whether they were racists or assaulting others - it was meant for the disempowered to have a voice in the removal of abusers. Nowadays a small time artist can get cancelled for drawing a “problematic” anime character on twitter. It’s out of control, ridiculous, and frankly useless. I think it comes down to motivation: is someone trying to remove a dangerous person from their power, or is someone just trying to punish someone else, because they themselves feel powerless? Now, because everyone is “cancelled” at some point or another, it almost means nothing. People like that Louis comedian guy - who ruined the careers of the women he assaulted - are now quietly returning to stages and finding welcome because “everyone gets cancelled at some point”. I feel like what it’s become has ruined its purpose in the first place. I also feel like “cancelling” has just become a guise under which people feel like they have the green light to bully others.

    • @Twistai
      @Twistai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i mean this was commented like four months ago but unsurprisingly still applies- i've never liked or joined in on cancel culture because it almost always disgusts me. yes, if a person does something problematic they should obviously be called out for it. however, almost always the "problematic thing" an influencer did was an honest mistake, because, you know, they are a human being. and yet in the replies instead of seeing an explanation of why what the influencer did was wrong or a simple "hey, you need to stop, this is very bad", you get people commenting freak, disgusting, awful person, etc. some go as far as saying they deserve to be bullied or even die because of what they've done. people will preach anti-bullying and acceptance of everyone and then go and do shit like that- it makes me wonder what the hell they think they're doing

  • @sockpant
    @sockpant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Honestly your video reminded me not to get so swept up in the anger/hate of influencers. Esp because, ngl its fun to watch videos clowning them for what they did wrong. I need to go back to reality tv for my drama fix lolol. I feel like the term influencer implies too much that they influence people’s politics/morals/day-to-day, when rather they influence people’s time & dollar.

    • @MadisynBrown
      @MadisynBrown  3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      thank you for saying that. “they influence peoples time and dollar” so true, very well said. and yeah the influencer hate train can be very entertaining which is def why people get so carried away. it can also serve as an ego boost to the viewer making them think “i’m better than them, i would never do that”.

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  • @Spacevalentine
    @Spacevalentine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    i don’t care about influencers, however they - like anyone else being selfish in a pandemic - should face the consequences of their actions, which i have never seen happen and it makes me angry: especially because they can often get away with more than the average person. for example, in the uk there was a big thing where influencers were going to dubai - and they were allowed to whereas normal people weren’t. they shouldn’t get special treatment and they shouldn’t have the option to do selfish things in a pandemic because they will always choose to do it and get away with it.

  • @kiiikaaaaaaaaaa7099
    @kiiikaaaaaaaaaa7099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I love your videos, I always look forward to watching you :3

  • @art.thomas
    @art.thomas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    So many topics to discuss!
    Personally, I believe influencer's should do good with their influence. As an adult, I can make my own decisions, but kids look to adults, and now also influencers, to know what's good and bad, what's cool and what's not. Some parents don't know how to monitor what their kids watch online and some don't care to.
    However, it is ultimately up to the influencer whether they want to be a good influence or not, even if they audience is unaware what the creator's intentions are.
    Cancel culture is getting a bit petty, but I do think it's still important when it comes to influencers/ celebrities committing crimes against and/ or being hateful towards certain demographics and communities. For example, R. Kelly grooming children for his sexual advances does not equate to people accusing Bruno Mars for cultural appropriation even though they were both considered bases for cancellation.
    I don't think influencers should be cancelled for partying during a pandemic, but I don't appreciate it and it is dangerous. I haven't noticed it encouraging people to party and the kids who would believe its okay to party need to ask permission from their parents, who I hope, would say no. Representation matters and all that, but I think the conversation around partying during this time is predominantly "why? it's not worth it," so I'm not pressed.

  • @jodi-annjohnson5005
    @jodi-annjohnson5005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Hey (: I am one of the new subscribers. I have a lot of opinions on cancel culture. I'm not American. I live in Jamaica and I am in my final year of medical school, so I have to admit I do have more of an outsider perspective on cancel culture, and agree with your point that they shouldn't be expected to be a good person.
    Personally, I only care about influencers and celebrities travelling because of the health risks. You didn't mention it, but a lot of Americans (celebrities, influencers and the everyday person) have been travelling to our region and other countries, and it's not been sitting right with a lot of us (in CARICOM at least). A lot of times, the justification is they're "taking care of their mental health". That type of entitlement has been pissing a lot of Caribbean citizens off. Though honestly, another issue has been returning citizens who refuse to adhere to the 2 week quarantine mandated by all CARICOM governments.
    I don't expect a celebrity to be a good person tbh. I don't know them and they are marketing themselves, so what I see is an image. But, I do care about those who make travel seem ok, when a lot of lower middle income countries like mine, won't be seeing the vaccine for awhile. I will have graduated medical school, so I'll probably be amongst the first people to receive the vaccine, but most of the region won't be receiving it until 2023/2024 tbh. People normalizing travel in a pandemic is truly the definition of privilege and tone-deaf.
    Tl;dr They are people who have gotten famous. But, when what you're doing causes harm, you should be called out for it. Even if the person (influencer/celebrity/citizen) doesn't change, people following what's happening will at least you know it's messed up and selfish.

    • @jodi-annjohnson5005
      @jodi-annjohnson5005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Speaking for my country and the region in general, we don't really have a celebrity culture. We tend to just be proud and elevate people when they do well. But, the shift in celebrity culture I think started happening after Trayvon Martin passed away, and subsequently the Ferguson Riots and BLM. That's one thing I think the CRM in the States had over the current BLM movement: celebrities were actively reminded that they were not to be leaders if they hadn't done the work and/or had the education. Nowadays, people keep looking to celebrities for that, and it's doing more harm than good.

    • @MadisynBrown
      @MadisynBrown  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      thank you for sharing that, those were great points! i love hearing how non american ppl view celebs/influencer culture. and i totally agree that normalizing travel is not a good look and can cause major consequences that go beyond the individual who is traveling.

    • @jodi-annjohnson5005
      @jodi-annjohnson5005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MadisynBrown No problem (: Thank you for sharing your videos. I am binge watching you now. I am happy the algorithm suggested you to me

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  • @alexisnevrose2420
    @alexisnevrose2420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Influencers: their job is literally to influence. So yes They should be good role models but not saints (at the end of the day they’re humans). It’s their job.

  • @anattynook
    @anattynook 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    honestly your videos have been SOOO necessary for me these past few months as a creator hahhaha it's so easy for social media to become a toxic place with lots of unreasonable demands but watching your videos reminds me of the simple virtue of being able to share your opinions and have a complex/nuanced understanding of the world and yourself. THANK U!

  • @theunicornhead7271
    @theunicornhead7271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Although I agree most of what you said but I just feel like we need to call them out because they're risking people's lives. I do agree that they won't care but small things do become bigger things. I still haven't formed a sure opinion on this but this is just my take right now.

  • @sid570
    @sid570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've binged so many of your videos today. It's always refreshing to hear and learn from your perspective or commentary on issues regarding gender issues, politics, and just social media in general. I'd compare you to SNEAKO, if you've seen his content. Good stuff, keep it up frfr

  • @miasouth1659
    @miasouth1659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’d say everyone has a personal duty to be a decent person. However, some influencers don’t even want to be influencers/role models, but we put them on that pedestal (sometimes against their will) anyway. Now this is a small pop of influencers but still

  • @odin4306
    @odin4306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'd say majority of influencers are not good people, especially seeing the way they've acted throughout the pandemic. Superiority complex and overall disregard for the safety of others.

  • @dokessezeaka5159
    @dokessezeaka5159 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you! I had this same thought about Cardi b when she first got famous. Everyone was praising how "real and authentic" she was, but that doesn't excuse her behaviour and the fact that she's a man nasty person, under the guise of "comedy". I also find it weird how people idolize influencers as their reason for living, which is honestly sad that you have to count on someone who doesn't know who you are as your reason for existence. GOD should be your only reason for existing.

  • @carmenjin7824
    @carmenjin7824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is like we expect the most from the people who we know will give us the least.

  • @clementine866
    @clementine866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I agree that parents should teach their children that these ppl online are not the ppl that should be their role models but I also think influencers have some responsibility they are called influencers for a reason because they influence other ppl if that makes sense lmao

  • @ahsokatano4628
    @ahsokatano4628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Personally I say no. They’re not responsible for other peoples kids. That’s the parents job

  • @AngelGrey_
    @AngelGrey_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I definitely get this but still feel like if an influencer knows that they have a huge following that looks up to them and they affect they should at least try to give a good example.

  • @insomniaaaaa4813
    @insomniaaaaa4813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I see your point. But I think they do have a responsibility to be a good person because everyone does.

  • @fran8951
    @fran8951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    yeah I get that they're just people that have massive followings, but they should be a little aware of what's appropriate to post at certain times. Like maybe posting themselves at a party to their young audience during a pandemic is probably not a good idea, and may in turn make the younger audience less likely to take the pandemic seriously. i don't think they should be cancelled for that just that they should note to their audience that staying safe during the pandemic is a priority

  • @marciavox8105
    @marciavox8105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I understand what you’re saying, that they are just human, but at the same time, I do wish that they had to pass a test or something to become influencers. Just so we can pick the best PEOPLE to become famous, who are going to be seen every day by millions. Also, I think that their behavior (to an extent) encourages people to behave like them. Since famous people are awarded more attention for behaving the way they do, other people seek the same attention by doing the same things. Just my thoughts.

    • @MadisynBrown
      @MadisynBrown  3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      LOL imagine a world where you had to take a test to be famous. that would be kinda cool. i’m just laughing at the idea of 6ix9ine or jake paul taking the test and failing miserably. but yeah the way we make ppl famous so baffling to be cause there are plenty of low grade humans with millions of followers and too much money.

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  • @pipelayomimiko
    @pipelayomimiko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm such a fan
    Been binge watching
    You feel like an older sis to me🤭❤️

  • @frankie9772
    @frankie9772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I mostly agree to this but I should mention just how many kids are dumb enough to follow their favorite influencers into anything. However I also think that parents shouldn’t expose their kids to social media until they’re more mature so go figure.

  • @Name-tn1zg
    @Name-tn1zg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m honestly influenced mostly by my parents and a little bit from my friend I’ve never been influenced by an influencer. Cancel culture WAS effective but now ppl cancel anyone they can. It’s becoming a joke now.
    And I think if u see an influencer doing bad shit educate them why they’re wrong instead of attacking them and if they didn’t change that’s on them tbh cuz caring too much will not change them. I feel like leaving them on their own to think abt what they’ve done is better

  • @mayacokie4811
    @mayacokie4811 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wanna say ur vids are great, i clean my room to them then stop half way cuz ur vids are so intriguing 😂💁🏾‍♀️💖✨ my room may never get clean tbh👀

  • @JamesRWaddell
    @JamesRWaddell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have an instagram, and I know what influence and influencing, the words, mean. So I have a vague concept of what an influencer is and how it's a job or something to become. I can't think of one single person I follow on instagram that has influenced me to buy a product, etc. I despise that I have to watch ads and commercials as it is, seeings how it's someone telling me what to do, buy, be and how my life isn't complete without their product. That being said, celebrities, rock stars, sports heros, and influencers are not and should never concern themselves with being a role model. Unless that is something they want to be, otherwise these people are adults who have a job and a life, a life lived by uniquely flawed humans who don't owe society any explanation or need permission. Should society find their actions unacceptable then society will not buy your albums, or go to your events, etc. Parents are ultimately responsible to teach their kids to do what's right as well as to be involved in their kids life enough to know if he or she is idolizing a star without character or with opinions that are shameful or offensive. It's always easier to blame others than to be active and proactively searching for a solution or the help you need.

  • @loliwinxedits6095
    @loliwinxedits6095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All these comments are just saying "YEAH BUT-."
    they just want to validate bullying others

  • @salpetre4502
    @salpetre4502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I get and agree with what you mean : influencers should not be role models.
    Problem is they are, like physically, empirically, they are. :c

  • @hannahmixter6423
    @hannahmixter6423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can't remember how I voted in the poll because I think yes and no.
    A lot of people hold influencers to a much higher standard than their friends, peers and themselves, and I think that's hypocritical and unrealistic. Like you said, they are only people and I don't think it makes sense to hold them to a standard of perfection. If you wouldn't criticize your friend for doing something, and especially if you would do that thing yourself, you should probably grant an influencer that same level of humanity.
    But when it comes to important things like traveling during a pandemic, I think we should probably be holding both our friends and influencers accountable. If we are posting our opinions and information on staying responsible during the pandemic on social media for our friends to see, criticizing influencers for being irresponsible doesn't seem like an unfair standard.

  • @Arinaretina
    @Arinaretina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I feel like when you’re an influencer, you should consider the impact of what you have on your audience. Most of the time now, influencers have a _really_ young audience, almost shockingly. They look up to them for inspiration, so whatever opinions the influencer has will, y’know, influence them. I guess that’s why it’s important for them to speak up on certain matters, because their opinions can (possibly) change others’ opinions.
    Though I definitely don’t think they need to be perfect, and influencers get cancelled over the most petty things now honestly. But I feel if they’ve made a mistake, they need to own up and apologise genuinely for it. That’s the problem I have - like okay, you’ve set a bad example, fine, then clear it up and tell people don’t follow what you did and take down the original content. Like it’s that simple. People aren’t necessarily gonna forgive you, but it’s not your job to convince them.

  • @knessy
    @knessy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree that it should ultimately be up to people's parents to teach them right from wrong, but there are a lot of parents who have horrible views which forces their kids to look elsewhere for proper guidance. A great source for kids, especially now, to learn about different worldviews is from the people they watch online. I think if you are going to be a public persona, I believe that you owe it to the public to be a good person and promote good morals. Of course, no one is obligated to do that, but it makes sense that these influencers should be held accountable for their bad actions and views just like any other person would. Some people don't have parents with morally or ethically sound views and look to others for help, so imo I think influencers should just keep that in mind. Like honestly just don't set a bad example for kids and everything will be fine!

  • @maple9905
    @maple9905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think everyone has a responsibility to be good, and to be a decent human being. But the thing is, these days, literally anybody can have a platform, you can't expect these people to be literal angels, like- anybody can become an "influencer" and it isn't hard to teach your children to "think critically" as you said. I'm not really sure where I stand on it though, I can see where everyone is coming from

  • @ConstanceZak
    @ConstanceZak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    girl- I love your videos

  • @frannylissetrodriguez4066
    @frannylissetrodriguez4066 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @makkerfelix
    @makkerfelix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if their content is geared towards kids, yes. Because nowadays parents just let the internet raise their kids. But like the example of tommyinnit where he had to go to therapy for the backlash from being FRIENDS with someone who doesn't have a squeaky clean record. Then were to strict.

  • @lovelydays1968
    @lovelydays1968 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    about the best dressed situation, with the amazon sponsorship, i believe around that time she didn’t have nearly as many subscribers as she does now, like you said “you would do it too for a check” amazon is a huge company and the opportunity to make good money. and i’m sure that like you said most of the people commenting about it, have bought from amazon before. so if they want to demonize ashley for working with amazon, then they should hold themselves to the same standard . also people hate to see women and women of color especially succcedd.

  • @puppy2cats
    @puppy2cats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with you

  • @jyotiswamy6305
    @jyotiswamy6305 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you want to be my best friend.....like where have you been all my life!?!?! love your energy

  • @Utimavasconcelos
    @Utimavasconcelos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Influencers and Celebrities is a WHOLE different thing. I’m tired of seeing influencers being called celebrities. Plus the majority of influencers are TIKTOKERS

  • @hydrofrolicwildflower3393
    @hydrofrolicwildflower3393 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NOT MY GIRL BESTDRESSED ON THE THUMBNAIL 😭🖐

  • @genedalefield
    @genedalefield 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very reasonable. I think it's true that young people generally don't take that much from influencers. And moreover, it's the Internet, it'll pass by into obscurity fairly soon.

  • @fatimaamir5266
    @fatimaamir5266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you are so real

  • @islandrebelmakeup4653
    @islandrebelmakeup4653 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing I think they have a responsibility for is what all business have a responsibility for: honesty in marketing. For example, I think fitness influencers should be transparent about any plastic surgery they have had on their bodies that skew appearance of their progress so people know what to expect if they try the same things.

  • @aonx7325
    @aonx7325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    With the point about james charles, I dont really feel that people rushing to "cancel" over being an alleged sexual predator as you said while not doing the same in regards to him not taking covid very seriously shows a set of wrong priorities. I feel like you could make points as to why they're both equally deserving of getting someone cancelled, though I dont think it would come off very genuine to many because I'd say not taking covid seriously usually is/reflects selfishness and ignorance, and I think being a sexual predator is above that. But maybe your point was more about how he got cancelled for something that wasn't even true? I dont know, but I think another aspect may be that there are many people who dont take covid as seriously as they should. That obviously doesnt make it better, but I do find it kinda interesting to think about how influencers will get so much direct backlash as if they're the only people doing things sometimes. Like, everyone else in the world doing the same will never get that direct backlash, but I guess you could say that with a lot of things.
    Anywaysss, yea, I don't know. I feel like sexual predators aren't the same types of messed up people as those who dont consistently take covid precautions seriously. I'm not sure if you were even trying to say that haha, but I think many would rather take away the career of a sexual predator rather than someone who was selfish and ignorant regarding covid. I also think "canceling" people is somewhat overrated in regards to what it actually does. I mean, yea, Shane and Jeffree got "cancelled" (more so shane) I guess, but they had years of things boiling up against them. A lot of the times, I feel like canceling people is just a common consensus of anger and backlash that usually fades away. But yeaaa, that's just my opinion, sorry for the ramble haha (and I def get your side thooo)

  • @itscrystalstevens
    @itscrystalstevens 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s the art of critical thinking for me ✨

  • @skillzzzzzzzzz
    @skillzzzzzzzzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think what’s tricky is what is the definition of an “influencer” like ya, this person posting random vlogs or like structured content yes very relatable i can see myself in them, however once you get PR, start making sponsored content/doing brand deals, etc like that’s where it starts to get tricky for me bc that is no longer relatable and said person has crossed that weird threshold from person posting online with a following to “influencer” at least that’s how i view it all if that makes any sense lol basically what is an influencer considered now like i feel it’s always changing ya know lol

  • @chloetreagus5663
    @chloetreagus5663 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    where is ur green zip up from? love ur channel

  • @phelontletapile4721
    @phelontletapile4721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    finally someone talk about this

  • @lizzyjones8418
    @lizzyjones8418 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My take on it is that they should be good people and set good examples, but in no way do they need to be perfect and people really need to stop expecting them to be.
    I get that it’s good to be called out, but as normal people when someone calls us out for our bad behaviour it’s usually someone close to us who cares about us and wants us to be the best version of ourselves, rather than hundreds of thousands of strangers on the internet. People reallyyyyy need to see the difference between calling out when it comes to normal people and influencers. I feel so stressed just thinking about thousands of people calling me out for a mistake I made.
    And I 10000% agree about political issues. These young people need to form opinions based off of all sides and their own life experiences, not just copying what someone on Instagram believes in. I feel it’s creating these really extreme people who are really close minded and it’s scary.

  • @arusu1806
    @arusu1806 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why people need to stop holding onto people but values. Values never fail you.

  • @baasandulameegii5081
    @baasandulameegii5081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    U are my influencer since yesterday . Im not even joking 🤡💀😎😎

  • @MostlyCloudy
    @MostlyCloudy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    '"Influencers" do have an obligation, it's in the name. Celebs have no such obligation.

    • @MostlyCloudy
      @MostlyCloudy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @KERENE SMITH i mean it doesn't have to be positive but if it's negative they're trash.

  • @chirpsythismorning
    @chirpsythismorning 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree. I hate the word influencer though because it's such a loaded word that implies a responsibility to influence, ideally in a positive way. But I think the outrage largely has to do with fandom mentality. Because most influencers and celebrities in general thrive on an audience that thinks they are perfect. And maybe they don't actually think it, but that's what 99% of their comments are. And so on Twitter especially, there is a hierarchy of call-out culture among fandoms, where anyone who is a fan of the trending "x is over party" hashtag of the week, is now complicit to all the bad things that influencer has done, all because of the that very support. It's also created this narrative where people say cancel culture can't exist because people who mess up or even fuck up tremendously, are still going to have a fanbase that supports them no matter what, and so it can't exist. I disagree though. I think a lot of people don't go online much so they don't obsess over peoples actions, and I also think forgiving people and not holding resentments isn't necessarily a bad thing, its actually quite mature and grounded in reality. Obsessing over the negatives of others can really shed light on how a person is just deflecting from their own mistakes. If you have a bunch of time to call-out others, but no time to check yourself, you are in no position to tell other people who they can and can't support.

  • @toriwang3573
    @toriwang3573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:12 ended up being true but a lot of his fans don't give a shirt anymore

  • @medhyak148
    @medhyak148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG getting flashbacks of that “bestdressed is problematic” video. Like I get it, nobody is beyond criticism, but a lot of the points were a reeeaaachhh, and really mean spirited. You can tell the creator had that “oh she made an Amazon video when she talks shit about capitalism. Hypocrisy” point and realised she needed more to pRoVe that Ashley’s super problematic, so she scavenged for stuff like “oh, she’s hiding her privileged background” and “she MADE her friend move for her own sake” or whatnot. Like- no. Often times, it’s young successful women who get dragged for being “problematic” when they’re just living their lives, or for having even the slightest of controversial opinions. Like, I’m not saying criticism is never warranted, but we can agree a lot of the times it gets extremely excessive.

  • @capybarastrange4077
    @capybarastrange4077 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you

  • @kyootzee
    @kyootzee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If they present themselves as moral authorities, yes. The viewers give their trust to the influencer. They give attention, validation, and money. If the influencer does things that harm people, they betray that trust… if we assume viewers are people and not bots. If an influencer is self aware of their shortcomings, people seem to trust that more. We’re a tribal species. People tend to trust influencers they identify with and trash those they see as the enemy. There are some that have rabid fanbase full of sycophants and enablers. They can’t seem to get canceled no matter how harmful their actions are. Trying to do the right thing and stand up for what you believe in can be dangerous and make the mob more defensive. Engaging with narcissists and their enablers only gives the cult more energy. They feed off your energy whether it is positive or negative. Best thing to do is be your own person and be above anyone’s influence. Unplug from the matrix.

  • @wendyful
    @wendyful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah... Ariana Grande is dead to some of my friends because the donut thing. I just cant understand that lol. I can think so many things that are worst than that, and that I am sure most people have done

  • @Lily-lj4sj
    @Lily-lj4sj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    lmao kids have NOTHING to do on social media...
    parents are responsable for they kids protection and education
    not strangers on internet called "influencers".

  • @themonarchofbaddecisionmak1405
    @themonarchofbaddecisionmak1405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tbh.i think it's better to teach children, tweens and teens to think for themselves and not to let others influence your actions.Influencers aren't teachers.they're just people who happened to get popular enough to be called influencers.

  • @idyllday
    @idyllday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i mean they’re a grown ass person, young people should be raised by their parents? influencers arent their parents, they’re strangers over the internet who have zero responsibility for anyone but themself?

  • @dagmarmedabrejlova8825
    @dagmarmedabrejlova8825 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    me likes🖤

  • @sprinkelle1165
    @sprinkelle1165 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before i've seen this video
    "Kinda, they kinda do. Their called influencers for a reason, they influence the public into copying their lifestyle. So if they start doing something negative, chances are their fans are gonna do the same."
    My opinion after this video:
    HAvent watched the vid yet

  • @heart2553
    @heart2553 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:29 as a young impressionable 12 year old girl: no 😭, but also i am quite mature for my age lol

  • @cloudiiqueenofnewtropilis
    @cloudiiqueenofnewtropilis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This goes for TH-camrs too honestly. Especially minors like myself, like- your expected to be a child while behaving like an adult and making adult decisions at the same time and it’s really hard to do. I can’t imagine what celebrities must feel like being canceled for acting like P E O P L E. which you know- THEY ARE?

  • @eleaalmy7020
    @eleaalmy7020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think the part with which i fundamentally disagree is when you say that influencers are human, that they are just like us. no, they are not. they do not talk to us as friends from their room anymore. this has became their job. and as such, they have responsability. the function of their job IS to influence people. it actually means that they have to influence us into buying things they are paid to promote (becoming sandwich-men and most often not even mentionning the fact that they are getting paid for their ads, in order to fool us even more into the illusion of a proximity between us, viewers, and them, and thus making it easier for them to influence us, since we take their advertisment for the nice advice of a friend). since it is their JOB to influence others, it is also their duty to use this influence to do good. your job is supposed to contribute to society in a way. being a public figure is a choice they made, and since they capitalize on the illusion of caring for their audience and being close to them, they might as well push the illusion forward
    (edit) i've been rethinking about that and i also came across the fact that this demand for positive influence is only directed towards influencers that identify as women. i don't know what to do with this, but i just think that it is quite tiring that women have to bear all of this pressure while men can keep on being silent.

    • @tooth5276
      @tooth5276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think she just means that they have emotions, feelings ...uk human qualities just like us :)

  • @jjane
    @jjane 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that, obviously, they're not going to be "good" people. Objectively, no one is a truly good person. It's impossible, we're human after all. HOWEVER, if you have a platform, where you influence people it's important to be aware of your image and actions online because it has an impact (which is why they are literally called "influencer"). You don't have to be good, just responsible with your audience.

  • @evieneaville9059
    @evieneaville9059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love taylor swift. she is a great person and has great music. but if she does something that i don't agree with like not where a mask then whatever i'm wearing the thing keeping me from death :) even though she wears one and has the vaccine.

  • @ninin117
    @ninin117 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:11 people are mad about that because it’s extremely hypocritical

  • @reni6184
    @reni6184 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    famous people have the ability to tell they're opinions louder and it effects a lot. I hope it wouldn't be like that but it is.for example israeli people don't want to play a nazis composers in concerts like Wagner. and it's not that they have some antisemitic message in what they create, we don't want to support them because they Influenced us badly by saying their antisemitic opinions. also a lot of famous people that don't usually post their opinions suddenly post them because they find something important enough for them to say. it doesn't mean they have to speak out about everything.
    it's different when people start hating on a celebrity for not speaking out about something important. it literally dont and shouldn't effect anything/anyone. who said they have to speak about these things? a celebrity is just a celebrity. If a music celebrity didnt speak about something politic some people find important it just means nothing.
    sorry about my English I tried my best to formulate it as I want.

  • @yazzerino
    @yazzerino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just feel like influencers like Eugenia Cooney should not be on any platform because she promotes unhealthy and self destructive behavior while denying, gaslighting and manipulating her audience into thinking everything's fine when she's not she's sick and she needs professional help

  • @zahraanimations2840
    @zahraanimations2840 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isaiah russell bailey is a great actor but he dos not have the hype that he deserves

  • @kamrynn6382
    @kamrynn6382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    when ariana grande licked the donuts i was in elementary school & my republican religious grandma explained it to me even tho i already knew about it and told me i needed to stop supporting her and she was a bad person. & it made me cry & she was basically like “not trying to be a bitch but i meant what i said.”

  • @Alexandra-nd8cf
    @Alexandra-nd8cf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First 5 minutes in, I very much disagree. Influencers are called 'influencers' for a reason, by them doing highly controversial things they are influencing a young audience that is still struggling to properly think for themselves. The ideas of 'what's the point' 'they're not going to change' are damaging, you can't have that attitude when partying during covid can put actual LIVES at risk - that's like giving up on fighting racism or sexism, because 'they're not going to change' - the point is to spread awareness and hopefully reach the people who watch their videos so that they realise what their favourite influencers are doing is wrong.

  • @claudiaaifuwa4319
    @claudiaaifuwa4319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you oversimplify the issue. I know you don’t care but you are not the demographic

  • @claudiaaifuwa4319
    @claudiaaifuwa4319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just because many people do it doesn’t mean it’s right lol and I really think you don’t understand that concept

    • @Thomas.jefferson
      @Thomas.jefferson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      She's right bc she is saying that influencers will do whatever they want no matter what so ppl making youtube videos abt it is not gonna make them stop
      Bet many are still following them on tiktok and youtube No matter what they do so... She s right

  • @PlatoneMusic
    @PlatoneMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Girl licking a donut that’s not yours and is meant to be bought by someone else is a big thing wtf 😬

  • @5lhunt
    @5lhunt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like your videos and generally I agree with your opinion but honestly I think this is a really bad take.