How This ONE Thing Single-Handedly Ruined Competitive League of Legends
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Banner command was my go to before players abused it because i preferred items that was rarely seen and expose my singed style
15:55 fierik xdddddd wtf italian stremer wold clip wher did u get that xd
In 21:07 you mentioned a forum about riot seeking out ideas for a split pushing item. You mind linking us the forum as it's not in the description currently
Thanks
You also said 300 seconds cooldown, suppose you meant 3 minutes. Nice video, keep it up :))
Will there be a duskblade video? The item which literally causes assassins to be balanced around it making them the worst class in the game without them. Such a unfun item to build and makes all assassin builds linear. However Ap assassins don't get balanced around this item to they seem to deal more damage then a zed or a talon. How leblanc and Diana can one shot without being able to counter while Ad assassins NEED duskblade to work.
Here before this monstrosity is reincarnated as “ Hullbreaker”
*maniacal laughter*
For having tried it, it is a pretty decent item but not op at all
@@louisa4725 use on the Tower Obliterator Yorick, you gonna love it
@@vleos9325 i used it with nasus
Nah.
Hullbreaker is even more OP than the Banner. Which is worse lol.
"70% damage reduction to EVERYTHING instead. Sounds okay in theory, right?" I don't know in what universe that would ever sound okay "in theory"
Still wondering why they didnt just make it take normal dmg instead..
I think he meant in comparison to full immunity to magic damage
Lol people like you always find 1 thing to pick at, he had a much bigger point going on
They should just put 50% of all damage n this would be case close, which idiot set to 100% damage? It's immortal already
Could of just made it 25%
"You don't want Caitlyn to be constantly proccing Demolish"
*stares in Grasp Cait*
Yesss
Riot in 2021: Welcome back old friend
It’s looking a lot better. Finger crossed that it’s good enough to buy.
@@zat1245 i hope you are being sarcastic
@@blitzan2363
No, I seriously hope it’s good enough.
@@zat1245 ok I'm taking you are like bronze at the game so i wont demolish your wording.... "hope its good enough"
@@blitzan2363
Well, we won’t know if it’ll actually be useful till it releases. Anyone who thinks they know beforehand is just arrogant. But I really like this more leveled “Banner of Command” for those who would like speck into it for more split pushing power. But the stats from the passive could be hit or miss or not worth losing the space for a different item so we’ll have to see how it performs.
Make a vid on how pro play balancing has ruined League for solo q
not a bad idea
Agree :D
pro play balancing ? I think you misspelled Ryze's balancing.
@@an0nsaiko890 ryze .. azir .. akali .. irelia .. aatrox .. urgot .. sejuane ... Everytime they say they want a stable meta then they make 50 changes in 3 patches XD
Balance team btw, Imagine if they remove ryze because they can't balance him anymore like their items.
*No one builds banner*
Riot: Buff it
*No one builds banner*
Riot: Buff it
*No one builds banner*
Riot: Buff it
*Banner breaks the game*
Riot(with surpised Pikachu face): We can't balance it, it's gone
They reworked it again and again.
Then forgot about the other changes to the game when they fixed that last bug....
yea, rito reverted leblanc and kogmaw, but couldn't just revert banner.
Honestly, real issue was baron buff change from a stat gain to a minion buff.
so stupid to throw so much work and experience away just because of one failed nerf attempt.
I built it but then again I played Zilean when banner had AP
"Why not just play Ashe"
Ashe arrow flies by
Omg I miss Ashe. I miss when AP Ashe was kinda ok even though it was always shit.
SNIPER ASHE!!
and missed
lmao yeah i saw that
"mage supports should love this item. they didnt, in fact no one did"
>laughs in heimerdinger
INDEED A WISE CHOICE
this was a staple for supports for years when it around. second 3 e supports built it alot despite him not saying so and fighters built it for pushing too. the main problem of the item lay in its long cooldown so it was hard to use it multiple times for a push and most people playing the game even in high elo cant manage waves. they know how to bounce waves but they dont know how to slow push waves. and further is that you have to push another lane the same time the banner minion hits a tower which you can do but its really hard to get your allies to commit at any time.
I remember heim blocking minion waves...
*Riot banned the Banner of Command*
because Kled should be the only one in Command
"CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!"
AXE AXE AXE AAAXE!
VICIOUS
"TAAAKE NO PRISONEEEEEEEERS!"
kled was still years off the radar tho
Banner zzrot Malzahar: “Come forth my armies!”
Yorick: Am I a joke to you?
@@mariobrand2257 Well, to me he isn't. Not after seeing the Commander Yorick video. Yorick with ZZro, Banner, Ghoulds, Maiden, and Herald. You can imagine why he isn't a joke to me, and will remain the commander of a real army forever.
@@astrofan8775 just go on summon 12 ghouls /meiden and Zzrot portal across the map while a teamfight is going in the midlane... RiP 3 towers right there.. or the game... You pick the sceinro..
Yessssss
@@mariobrand2257 at the time yorick was a joke tho XD
I would love a "commander" champion based around mechanics like banner and zz'rot
I know that isnt what you are asking , but azir is basically him commanding his soldiers.
Summoner roles in most RPG games are rarely played, so champs like Azir and Malzahar are also rarely played. I won't lie, I love Summoner type characters, and I do want another jungler like Ivern but controls the Monsters instead.
Malhazar: Im a joke to you?
Yorick
[Laughs in heimerdinger]
"they tell us they're looking for a healthy way to introduce a tower pushing item" b- ... but ... Ohm Wrecker ...
Ohhhhh boi, that item was fun. Will always remember those epic plays on Rakan with Ohmwrecker...
That wasn't a tower pushing tool that was a dive tool. The whole goal of a push tool is to push in and take tower. Ohmwrecker essentially zhonya'd the tower.
@@acecun6202 It was an excellent dive tool BUT I still allowed the turret to take damage making it very hard for the person defending the turret to keep it alive while the demolish tank its probably being used by is crushing the tower with 3 autos.
Now they have volibears R as ohmwrecker LOL
I know it wasn't balanced but men... Building that item with bard was so much fun.
love banner of command even though it ruined everything
Same dude. It was my core item on bard support for two years, and then they just removed it :(
Buiding that item in midlane was so much fun my team won the game because me and my duoQ partner built that Item it was so funny that I won every game just because of that Item.
#FreeBannerOne
#BRINGBANNERBACK
I loved make heimerdinger top whit banner, it was an item that give a reason 4 two people come top just to stop a brainded yordle.
6:14
Chat Log, my favorite part of this vid.
"They made it better for mages"
> footage of a Renekton using said item
Anyone else notice at 6:20 everyone spamming "RAPE" in the all chat? Glad to see the community was still the same back then as it is now lol
Yeah I saw that too...
Good old days
@@jackperrin3852 why the suspension marks? It was back when the game was lighthearted and didn't ban you for everything
@@nonoun9619 because spamming the word rape isnt lightherated or fun its just toxic nd gross grow up kid
@@nonoun9619 back when u could banter with ur adc about his farm sucking an he merely laugh and pick up on why u suck WITHOUT ANY ANGER I miss that
Riot: *reworks Banner of Command*
Players: I think that's bit overpower item now
Riot: Oh
Riot: *removes Banner of Command*
Players: ???
You left out the 10 iterations it went through before that, starting as a summoner spell in alpha. They tried for *years* to make it work until they finally decided that it couldn't be done and removed it.
I loved playing Banner of Command + Zzrot Portal Heimerdinger toplane. The god of the split push.
Vietnam Flashbacks
U may have beat me 0 5 in lane, however.......I still win with persistence period. Please send your whole team. For I, heimer, have the split push of 4 champs. Pick your loss reason.
Don’t forget talisman too for extra speed.
The build was BoC, ZZrot and Rylai's was the core of the build. then you'd usually build a Zhonya's. What i loved most was when you take TP and send your Promoted minion mid and put the ZZrot down in the botlane tribrush and push all 3 lanes at once.
Yorick main: am i a joke to you?
12:10 I think that 200 magic resist would be actually pretty op :DD
You forgot to mention the time when Soraka could heal those empowered cannons, she could split push by herself with only one minion left, using Banner of Command. RIP Soraka.
18:00 , damn dat Elwynn forest music got me nostalgic
Exil is like Animal Planet of League of Legends - good content, good quality, and hella knowledge.
And orgasmic voice
And deserves to have way more subs honestly
Except his narration is riddled with mistakes like "two hundred magic resist"
The nostalgia of seeing all of the summoners is amazing. 10 years later I’m still playing but for a short time I can remember what it was like to enjoy playing.
If you don't like it find a new game
Hullbreaker, baby. Its just banner of command but with a pirate hat. 100% better
not rly
God I miss going zzrot, banner, and a bunch of AP on singed and just proxying while my minions did everything for me
Jordan Jordan RIP banner.
I dont miss it at all shit like that was cancer
Don’t forget it’s acceptable on singed because well he is Toxic (also he’s EUW mascot)
I missed Banner of Command :(
People used to ping me and asked why I bought it, "Dude, I"m facing a mage"
I won my lane and helped take others, and they all said "Banner OP"
Like, no. you could've switch your AP top with AD mid, but you didn't
It was the only way to really fight ap tops. Just go banner and just stop their shove
I miss it so much :(
So basically Rito gave up and said "Well I guess no one can have it then" and commited thanos snap instead of making reasonable changes
not even 200 years could balance this item. or this game.
Loved the WoW music in the background such good ambience
I HEARD RUNESCAPE ELF MUSIC TOO
and the first music was jirayas theme from naruto
What expansion? I dont recognize it
What’s the music playing at 1:34
@@brdon2099 its a lofi remix, pretty sure like above guy said, a remake of jaraiya theme.
Promote, you want a 2 week vacation, BISH!
hahahahaha
I remember back in the days when LoL was just released,there was a strategy that allowed your team to kill Baron Nashor at lvl 9.Pretty sure it involved Soraka and Banner summoner spell
I have a group of 5 people in my friends list years later where we all went Smite Promote. We all lost lane, but destroyed the jungle, deleted every objective, and just pushed mid with promote and smite for the big minion waves. One of my favorite memories of playing League of Legends early.
3:10
1. Ashe's E at the time was to give you bonus gold with every minion kill. Not hawk shot.
2. Clairvoyance gave you vision for a lot longer and in a bigger radius than the blue trinket. It also worked globally.
3. Clairvoyance gave you true sight and it even gave you sight for a few seconds on every you hit with the clairvoyance. So you would see enemies even after it was out. This was op in Team Fights, as you could get rid of any bushplay and similar.
It was OP against junglers as well. Junglers basically just farmed and counterjungled all game(unless it was Nocturne)
Exil are you lowkey telling us how hyped you are for classic WoW with these background music bangers?
BagOfTricks that’s what I’m sayin man. I about flipped out when I heard the Elwynn Forest song in the background
Ur voice sounds familiar
Ur like the guy talking at proguides.
I do the voice at proguides too!
@@Exil22 i love watching proguides
Lol yes he definitely sounds like Phreak from riot 😁 honestly should be a cater
One of my favorite builds when I started league in Season 5 was Sion with ZZ'rot and Banner of Command, with what could be considered the OG int sion build.
omg you are such a really good director and guionist. I can't imagine how much time of research it took you to pull out this video and not only this one, but every video about League's history, liked and subscribed.
"Promote got a two week vacation" is that a nightblue reference I detect
W A S T H I S A N I G H T B L U E R E F E R E N C E ?
Insert roaming teemo support gameplay here
ngl, watching streamers using banner of command in season 8 was fucking hilarious. I enjoyed it while it lasted
I remember the imaqtpie game when legit every single person bought it, 5 banners vs 5 banners
You forgot that the 15% minion damage worked on Heimerdinger's Turrets. It was my core item when i started playing League and mained the Donger.
completely forgot about that.
They seriously removed the item for that? All they had to do was remove the capability to promote baron empowered minions, reduce the champion damage reduction to around 35% and add minion damage reduction to the promoted unit or buff per minion kill. This way if the player ignores the promoted minions they will be punished by losing objectives or turrets but it's easy to kill if you just use skills on it.
What the hell riot? Use your facking brain.
The problem with that is that the Baron buff is applied on an AOE, so there would reach a point in which Banner´s active would literally be unusable, making it only a lackluster tank item that no one would build because other items would have more or less the same stats and actives/slash passives that didn´t become unusable at a certain point. Hope I made myself clear.
@@zandromex8985 Did you know that there are times where your team hasn't just killed baron
I think it would be better if the gold generation wouldnt be random.
So it could be some sort of aura in which this minion collects gold for you.
If you can reduce the cost of that Item while getting pressure It wouldnt need that much stats on the empowered minion.
Did you miss the entire video? They didn't remove it because it was OP at the end. They removed it because it was either OP or useless *forever, since alpha*. That last version was just the final attempt after years of working on it before they decided it was never gonna work and removed it. If they did what you said, it would just become useless again. What's the point of going back and forth for literal years. It did not and would not ever work as an ability. So they finally got rid of it.
Riot has a history of questionable decisions, remember Aatrox? Reworked him then just completely erased it.
I hear 2 Week Vacation
I died
#freenubrac
#laughingmyfuckingassoff
i love that you are using world of warcraft background music from elwynn forest
WoW Classic soundtracks
Watching this now, makes me amazed on how much have you improved your editing skills. Good job and keep up the good work!
As someone that's been playing League on and off since launch, these videos are a lot of fun. It's so easy to forget that some of these things actually existed in the game. Thanks for putting these together.
And 1 year later the minion buffing part is back again with a vengeance
this video made me realized that a lot of aura items have been since deleted or removed (rip iron locket of solari)
Those items are inherently unbalanced design and once purchased, would be as strong how many champions you have within the radius. Considering the size of the map in League they don't want aura items whirlpooling the game down to 5v5 bubblewraps.
RIP bulwark
2021 Update! Hullbreaker seems to be their new take on the “Banner of Command” concept. It looks fantastic. Fingers crossed!
:)
Riot should watch this video before releasing that new item with the minion buff. Because apparently they forgot about Banner of Command and ZZ'rot and what WONDERFUL additions to the game those were.
I remember when I just started playing I always rushed aegis into face of the mountain into banner of command , good times
"...Chances are less than 1% of you have ever seen this or know what this is"
I hope that was a joke statistic
Maybe not less than 1% but im pretty sure its less than 10%, since league wasnt nearly as known back then and many people have stopped playing since.
I doubt a lot of people have been playing from season 3, and are currently watching Exil's videos.
@@dweep9546 Some of us are getting shown vids from league youtubers now that tft is released and people are playing it like hearthstone youtubers, played back in season 1 till something like 4 or 5 and stopped, now playing tft and watching some league stuff.
been playimg for almost 2 years, never heardo fi t
I think it was a joke about all the clock bait ads "LESS THAN 1% OF PEOPLE CAN PASS THIS LEVEL"
i miss this item so much. my fav was the baron cannon and giving it atkspd with old nunu buff
Move banner of command to the runes and act like overgrowth. Every time you kill a minion your minions health and resistances increase. This stacks up to a maximum of 12 stacks and has a 20s cooldown.
The effect only works around your champion.
This could be a viable tank or fighter rune to replace overgrowth.
Sure it wasn't balanced but it was such a fun item
i agree it was fun
didnt know this channel. nice narrative and good content. subscribed!
Thank you man
Love you videos dude! No clickbait, lots of in depth explanation and so much intresting
Ironically banner Malzahar stat in patch 4 is an extension of the old promote voidling strat pre-season 1. The voidlings followed you could be promoted to a big minion and would trick the system to spawn a new voidling while keeping the big minion. So every time your voidling respawned you would promote it and would have a hoard of minions that can 1 man push a lane.
The nostalgia in this is insane^^ Reminds me of one game i had back in season 2 or sth like that against 5 tanks with TP / Fortify. Most disgusting thing i had to witness til this day
Yeah talking about tanks, i remember when tanks and warmogs was super meta, and we had one game against 5 tanks that got fed, literally nobody could kill them, they just trolled our team for like 15 to 20 min
Actually Removing the magic immunity would have fixed it :D Or maybe 25% instead of 75% damage reduction.
they hotfixed nerf the damage reduction from 70 to 40 before they removed it, also they nerfed the damage stacking from the baron buff
That Elwynn Forest & Stormwind music in the background tho.
Hey thats me! 18:21 I remember that game, it was brutal to watch enemy team completely helpless against one powerful minion, great video btw
Honestly you have some of the highest quality league vids on youtube keep it up!!!
Im glad thank you!!
Now I kinda wish they made a gamemode where every OP thing that they removed would be in it
bro your videos are really interesting, pure, keep it up you got something here
15:55 i see a wild MrLaFierik
Unpopular Opinion:
Rito should bring back Surge and debatably Promote to bring back different play styles
True, but they are more likely to remove some more items, like it was, for example, with a sightstone or shielding support item
This would most likely create some cheese strats that would only ever be played below gold elo
@@owdado8319 I don`t get why thats an issue, huge % of players (in fact I think most of them) are gold elo and lower anyway so it is still a huge part of the game.. there`s like only 1% that are actually pro/grandmaster+ players in the game so why only balance around that.. same reasons they reworked so many niche champs just because they were too out of meta even though many people actully enjoyed playing these weird champs and got really good at them
@@Darduel true, then I guess it'd just be a matter of Riot thinking too many cheese options is annoying for the players. And about the niche champs, I guess they want to make more champs more viable and sell more skins(? I do miss old Swain a lot. They prob could´ve kept old or legacy versions of each hero and few would complain.
I don't know why but I regret the old triforce that was giving crit chance
I lowkey still sometimes forget that it doesn't have crit anymore
you mean "miss the old triforce"?
Or the ap. Oh man I miss sheen's ap
Almost 5 years later and this is stillmy favorite Exil video
I used to take banner on Zilean sup as one of my last two items in season 5 or six when it had ap. It let you push in a lane and group up with your team. It was really useful. Two bannered Baron buffed run down bot lane was fun.
I typically took Zz rot on Braum around the same time for the same reason or to help hold or push up top if I was falling behind and recall.
I know this is before they came to prominence but they could be used this way and in an effective manner at least at lower ranks.
Nobody:
5:37
Nb3: YO PROMOTE. YOU WANT 2 WEEK VACATION?
The quality of your videos is amazing
Oh my God I fogot entirely Promote was a summoner spell! God the memories!
Surprised you didn't mention that Banner worked on Zyra's plants and Elise's spiders as well, which made support Zyra fairly oppressive and Elise could clear and take drag/baron very quickly.
Love the music. Im glaf someone is using jeff heidenreich's music
Senior Bunny the song is so nice, do you know which one of his songs it is?
@@cosmichoney.-.5533 I dont know the specific song, but if you go on spotify i know its in the album vanish
6:23 that guy typing in all chat would have gotten 2 weeks vacation by today's standards XD
Loved the video.
I remember Banner of Command so vividly. I wonder if you're going to hit this itens:
Leviathan
Sword of Occultist
Philosofer's Stone
Heart of Gold
Pick of Destiny
Force of Nature (I miss this one so much)
Innervating Locket (Go Guardsmanbob!)
Zhonnya's Ring
Madred's Bloodrazor
Milady
Void Staff
Keep up with the good work, I think it's amazing to see this type of content. It's refreshing, but also nostalgic.
Nice video I still miss Raptor Cloak as an early game item on Nasus, it was kinda of op.
*looks at thumbnail* BROTHER MAN, BANNER OF COMMAND WAS AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE BEST ITEM OF ALL TIME
Ian McDonald when did they remove I took like a year break and came back and suddenly my favorite item was gone
Brand account name somewhere around June 2018 in patch 8.12
3:15 "less than one percent of you have even seen this image" but you put it in the video, a minute before that. so its like 100% lol
imo they coulda make BOC active replace minion with a buffed unit that cannot be rebuff with baron buff.
The main problem of its removal is due to the range increase on the baron buff... the item itself, even with the magic immunity isn't "broken" when the cannon minion walks inside of the tower range and marksman can actually do something and tanks can cc it.
I'd like to see promote brought back as a summoner. With some major buffs and a longer cooldown, the biggest buff I'd like to give it is by turning the minion into a pet like Yorick's R where while the summoner is on CD you can use the summoner key bind to control the minion or it automatically targets what you target, i'd also like each minion(melee, range and cannon) to have a unique special attacks that you've promoted when you are controlling it to attack.
I remember playing alot of Heimer back then and someone showed me redmercys video and we duo'd Heimerdinger malz bot lane, we'd always get 2 banners before the 20min mark along with a rylias and liandra's had a 70%+ win rate if we were just slightly ahead inhib was a guarantee. I also used it solo top with Heimer where rylias, banner and zz'rot was just obnoxious even as a tank item because of heimer's regen passive being buffed, I loved it the only counter was for the enemy team to buy 2 banners must of had dozens of games with 8+ banners it was absolute madness.
2022: *belveth released*
A Zz'rot as champion itself
And now it's actually back, as the Hullbreaker, nice
when i first started league it was just before banner was turned from a summoner spell into an item. and me being kinda new at the time and pretty bad at CS id take the spell as itd give me cs from the buffed minion. i played annie mid. id almost always target a cannon minion and it helped me win lane pretty easily. but yah...
Been playing from alpha till season 2. That summoner spell page brought back memories.
Season 3 was my baby and look how they have massacred it.
Not really but I do miss s3 it was so fun and I had so much more time to play
So much more time to do everything.
So what rank are you then and now?
Ace Shadow why did you bring rank here?The games are made for fun,so he was having a lot of fun with it
Damn I remember when someone ran teleport and revive back in the days lmao
I really love the concept of promote, empowering minions. There are no other items or skills could do that in nowadays.
During a time, my core items as bard were redemption and banner, honestly bards kit is not empowered that much by normal support items, that is why usually his build is more creative, with his high mobility pushing waves and creating pressure points was a really interesting way to play, not overpowered or anything but I did live this item
They literally just had to reduce damage taken from AoE abilities.
They should remove Ohm Wrecker. Like I never even see Nasuses buy that item.
I have played this game for about 7 years and I can’t honestly remember seing it in soloQ more than 5 times. Lol.
@@cottage3106 5 is too much lol
As I recall, the reason it still exists is that it was introduced as part of a referral program. I do think they could change the active to something less shit, though.
I remember building it along with Zz'Roth on Sion. I would empower a cannon, leave a portal open and go fight in mid or any other lane while those two farmed for my life stacking. It was an easy way to get S on Sion :D
when i first build this back in the days i thought this is just an item for magic resist but now i didn't even know it can do this
I think the 70% damage reduction was a step in the right direction had they just adjusted the numbers to say like 40 or 30% i think it would of been a good item not to strong but not to weak at the same time
damn just imagine the summoner spell in this meta and the turret plate gold it might have actually been good on early stomping top laner like panth
sion would be broken
sion will be broken
When I see that picture at 3:48 It gave me butterfly of nostalgia to my heart
I just recently had a match as yorick top with a malzahar midlane. Once malz and the jungler got rift herald they came top as I took the last plates, and we just pushed to victory there and then.
Next video must be Runic Bulwark. I miss this item Everytime i play thresh or Taric
When the MVP in a competitive match is a minion, something's really gone wrong.
I miss using promote on nunu. I called the cannons my near sized moose cannons. Using nunus move and attack speed buff on promoted minions was the best!