The vid did a terrible job with the Jordan retirement rumor. The full version is that Jordan's father was murdered over a gambling debt Mike owed, and having that information go public would have sullied the reputation of the face of the league. So, Stern gave Mike a year to get things settled and they used his stint in the minors as a cover up.
@@lugiep608 Jimmy’s mom and MJ were in the same city at the same time around his conception. I believe it’s known that they had a physical relationship before. Jimmy has a similar build and face to MJ. Both are freakishly athletic and have similar play styles.
You can’t play with cramps. That’s all I’m gonna say about that. Had bad ones myself due to how much muscle I had compared to body fat, skin, etc. Like to the point where I struggled to extend certain limbs. That series probably taught LBJ a little bit about the importance of taking care of your body.
Yeah majority of people don’t understand how serious cramping is for more muscular people or don’t care to understand lol I used to try and explain to people because I’ve dealt with cramps myself multiple times while playing ball and it’s very disheartening having the control over your body slip away but it’s pointless trying to explain it to people who don’t want to get it for the sake of making jokes 🤷🏾♂️
Imagine how disheartening it would be for every young baller out there doing shooting drills everyday, to know that the top level of "competition" is actually fake? I wouldn't be surprised with refs being rigged a ref has actually come out before to say this. It's quite easy to rig games through refs. I just don't think the players are in on it like in WWE
The point they made about the WWE is why I laugh at those who constantly complain about the NBA being fixed. If that's the case, then why does the season still get millions of views and the league makes money? Because people want to be entertained, fixed or not. You'll hear the same people complain about sports being rigged still tune in to watch it all unfold due to the unpredictability, or the so called illusion, of it.
Except everyone knows the WWE is fake so it’s not a problem. They don’t try to hide it. People don’t care that it’s rigged. The NBA on the other hand isn’t supposed to be rigged. People that love the game of basketball as a competitive sport deserve to view it as such. The wrestling done in the WWE isn’t actually useable in a real wrestling match- not viable in actual wrestling competitions. There is a MAJOR difference between the fan bases. Accept that please.
The wwe is more or less so for young impressionable kids. I didn’t know it was fake until I grew up it’s not the same as the nba we are not under the assumption that it’s fake my friend although we want to be entertained obviously you can see that not only the fans but the players care about winning a championship so much so it breaks relationships as a result. I don’t complain about it being fixed but if it was fixed which at times I do believe it is then that’s a horrible look for the sport and I almost guarantee people will stop watching it or someone will come along and create their own league
You guys are one of the best basketball channels I've ever come across. With that being said I'd really like y'all to react to Hoop Reports...just anything he put out but just start with his last video...his takes towards the end of the video were NAAAASTY
I ain't gone lie I use to see yal and skim over on TH-cam but after I watched one video outta boredom the other day I binge watched like all of em 😂😂 yal funny af Also I hope yal saw your boy clarks new video dropped cuz whew the comedy 😂😂😂
The players are coworkers. That's why lockouts happen. Like good on them for the improved organization and willingness to treat the owners like they treat the players.
Don’t let your star players make friends on Team USA, only super-teams can come from it. 🤣 Or, give me more of that ‘17 Warriors… that ish was fun to watch. How else you think Draymond got KD’s number?
I was surprised to see that one. LeBron, Wade and Bosh had been known to be close friends for years before they teamed up, so everyone knew that they coordinated to be on the same team.
85' Draft: Yes (Money talks) MJ's 93' retirement: Too many questions plus the rumour linked to his dad's death (This ones too sad tbh) Bella twins: #### Yes. If you did once you probably did it again lol 02' Kings: Yes they got finessed out of that game. A guilty ref who's done it before c'mon Flu game: Nah he was hungover. (Try playing ball when your belly hurt or with the flu) CP3 trade: Unsure. Stern could have flexed the 1# pick in any scenario ( Did it for the Cavs 2 years in a row) Heat game: Nah that could of backfired on the spurs Heat super-team: Of course it's planned players talk lol but so what
Cm punk? You named him first!! Lol didn’t say the rock, hulk hogan, effin stone cold??? I haven’t watched since I was a kid, but those were some legends! Rey mysterio too!
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The vid did a terrible job with the Jordan retirement rumor. The full version is that Jordan's father was murdered over a gambling debt Mike owed, and having that information go public would have sullied the reputation of the face of the league. So, Stern gave Mike a year to get things settled and they used his stint in the minors as a cover up.
@Raytheslay flight is it you???
@Raytheslay curry aint even better than tim duncan
@@Dick-Cheese-4 you said “even” like it’s easy to be better than Tim Duncan lol that man is a monster. 😂
Thats wild
Jordan was making millions upon millions at that point. So idk what Debt MJ could've owned to get his fathers killed.
Ofc we still talkin about CM punk
"So they told MJ to stop it and get some help?"
"I ain't doing this with you."
@Raytheslay please tell me you’re joking
@@legendarywiimaster he didn't make the finals 10 times, I'm just saying.
@Raytheslay fax Sam Bowie better
As an avid wrestling fan the wwe mention had me dying 😂
Same lol I did not expect them to mention it like that. Cool to know that they are WWE fans.
MJ Jimmy Butler conspiracy is my favorite because it’s the most believable.
fr i agree
How so?
@@lugiep608 Jimmy’s mom and MJ were in the same city at the same time around his conception. I believe it’s known that they had a physical relationship before. Jimmy has a similar build and face to MJ. Both are freakishly athletic and have similar play styles.
@@ChicoTooCold jimmy is not a freak athlete tho but honestly would be cool if this was true
@@RebornSauce he is he just don’t be doing the most. He goes for efficiency instead of being flashy.
S/o sage for all the WWE references
nah yall d riding the lakers is crazy😭
Sage is a Lakers fan so I get it, don’t know why Solz is doing it.
This video ignored the fact that Otto Porter Jr. Could've been Wilts son.
I’d say grandson, wilt would be too old to be his dad (then again it is wilt so you never know)
You can’t play with cramps. That’s all I’m gonna say about that. Had bad ones myself due to how much muscle I had compared to body fat, skin, etc. Like to the point where I struggled to extend certain limbs. That series probably taught LBJ a little bit about the importance of taking care of your body.
Yeah majority of people don’t understand how serious cramping is for more muscular people or don’t care to understand lol
I used to try and explain to people because I’ve dealt with cramps myself multiple times while playing ball and it’s very disheartening having the control over your body slip away but it’s pointless trying to explain it to people who don’t want to get it for the sake of making jokes 🤷🏾♂️
@@YungLanxx Fr. Cramps are absolutely no joke.
lebron is just not versatile enough smh 🤦🏽♂️ can’t believe this your goat
@@ajay3285 not like you could play while cramping like that
This the guy the homies was talking abt is going to go crazy in the comments 😂😂😂👆
"KD still coming." 😑
Imagine how disheartening it would be for every young baller out there doing shooting drills everyday, to know that the top level of "competition" is actually fake? I wouldn't be surprised with refs being rigged a ref has actually come out before to say this. It's quite easy to rig games through refs. I just don't think the players are in on it like in WWE
Yeah agree
Is it weird that ever single one of these theories happened with David Stern as commissioner’s ?
I love this channel so much bruh
We acknowledge sage ☝🏾
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“ my palms is sweaty , weak knees arms are heavy … 🤦🏽♂️” - Lebron
SOLZ is losing weight, good for u man
OSN just made top 25 all time and its just a clown list. Gotta react to that
😔 just the one time I could have seen my team win a championship
They were screwed over 😥
Peja got his....
-Mavs fan.
Back in my day.🤣
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Bro why😂
Ned from Spider-Man and Chris tucker from rush hour
This man called LeBron frozone lmao im dead
Solz: you want to see peja Stojakovic and Kenyon Martin stop
Me: yeah I really did 😔
Yeah he’s one of my favorite players ever, the fuck
As a Celtics fan nobody wanted to see the lakers in the finals it’s better to have a different face in there
Also, Hedo Turkgolu, Chris Webber, Mike Bibby? Like why did they choose Peja of all the names?! 😂
The point they made about the WWE is why I laugh at those who constantly complain about the NBA being fixed. If that's the case, then why does the season still get millions of views and the league makes money? Because people want to be entertained, fixed or not. You'll hear the same people complain about sports being rigged still tune in to watch it all unfold due to the unpredictability, or the so called illusion, of it.
What illusion 😭😭
Maybe the people that complain care less about entertainment and more about the integrity of competition. I know that’s what I care about at least
Except everyone knows the WWE is fake so it’s not a problem. They don’t try to hide it. People don’t care that it’s rigged. The NBA on the other hand isn’t supposed to be rigged. People that love the game of basketball as a competitive sport deserve to view it as such. The wrestling done in the WWE isn’t actually useable in a real wrestling match- not viable in actual wrestling competitions. There is a MAJOR difference between the fan bases. Accept that please.
The wwe is more or less so for young impressionable kids. I didn’t know it was fake until I grew up it’s not the same as the nba we are not under the assumption that it’s fake my friend although we want to be entertained obviously you can see that not only the fans but the players care about winning a championship so much so it breaks relationships as a result. I don’t complain about it being fixed but if it was fixed which at times I do believe it is then that’s a horrible look for the sport and I almost guarantee people will stop watching it or someone will come along and create their own league
WWE is a show, NBA is a competition. That’s the difference
Sage is a real Laker homer cuz that Kings Lakers series is barely even a conspiracy anymore
As a Mavs fan, it sucks how the world collectively chooses to ignore and forget how blatantly fixed the 06 Finals were.
Sage is cool but he’s a habitual line stepper.
@@AdolphSaxOfficial fixed is the wrong word the refs were paid to stop them from winning the game 6
@@itsgems3029 paying official to guarantee a win is literally fixing games lol
1 for Sage, nothing will ever beat nostalgia
You guys are one of the best basketball channels I've ever come across. With that being said I'd really like y'all to react to Hoop Reports...just anything he put out but just start with his last video...his takes towards the end of the video were NAAAASTY
He has been straight on point for the past 3 months, man’s has a time machine
@@ronancasey8556 I wasn't saying everything he did was crazy but his last vid did have some suspect takes. Overall he has good content
@@djsworld5467 he has not missed. Everything he says is straight up facts. He was calling the warriors chip in February
@@ronancasey8556 I was calling for that at the end of last year. Everyone should’ve been able to see that
That Sacramento Kings slander was so disrespectful 😂😂😂😂
I ain't gone lie I use to see yal and skim over on TH-cam but after I watched one video outta boredom the other day I binge watched like all of em 😂😂 yal funny af
Also I hope yal saw your boy clarks new video dropped cuz whew the comedy 😂😂😂
That lakers kings game was so rigged
Confirmed Bron would never be able to compete against the 80s Celtics with no AC in the Garden
Sage said the Morris twins was doing the Bella’s twin Magic 😭😭😭😭
u guys are becoming more entertaining video by video
I must've missed the Jordan butler part
SOLZ & SAGEEE.... ACKNOWLEDGE ME ☝🏽
He can guard all five positions but can't handle the maintenance man? Is this your king? 😂😂
Ight frozone d up 😂😂
Jimmy butler might be MJ sons but did he average a triple double like Russell Westbrook?
@Raytheslay you good bro?
@@Parchia No, he's not good.
mj and butler realy look realy alike its crazy
The craziest nba conspiracy was Russel Westbrook averaging a triple double, like how did he do that?
Being a seasonal ball player is crazy
Get an ice cream and ball is HILARITY…. Subscribes off that alone
I half expected the MJ is Jimmy Butler's real dad theory to show up here.
This theory is buggin
Basketball illuminati actually proved the frozen envelope false
The players are coworkers. That's why lockouts happen. Like good on them for the improved organization and willingness to treat the owners like they treat the players.
Jimmy butler is really MJ adopted son remember watching mike korezemba video about that
Ight Frozone T up is crazy 😂😂
love this video 📸
Common you know I neeeeeeedddd it upload again
I’m a lakers fan but that kings series playing out like that is nasty
They didn't understand any of the conspiracies lol
Paolo had similar issue to LeBron. He has to manage oversweating
This vid just made me realize how shady and corrupt David Stern is
Bro saved the game
You call it corrupt I call it business minded
Lmfao “IM BLEEDING GREEN” 🤓
Sheboygan boygan 🤣🤣🤣
8:26 Sage lost my respect 😪
The draft lottery one is just objectively true
If you really wanna put your NBA tinfoil hat on watch some cosgrove
Cm punk just came back. No reminiscing needed.
14:50. Everybody knew that was happening. It wasn’t a surprise
Basketball Illuminati. Basketball Illuminati. Basketball Illuminati.
Say it three times to keep your third eye open
Your telling me I can 1v1 LeBron with no A/C???
1:53 NBA got exposed years ago 😂😂 y’all must live under a rock
Osn made a top 25 list of all time, I think y’all should take a look💀
They did 💀
We need David Stern now...more than ever in todays world he was a REAL ONE!
Silver is better
@@Zack_410yeah right hes still terrible he said that his favorite finals match up is lakers vs lakers he was probably behind the reason of kings loss
Just realized solz is wearing a white hate with coke on it
wake up SOLZ AND SAGE posted
on a serious note ACKNOWLEDGE HIM ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾
no more defrozen now its LeFreezer
Btw, there are AC in europe, maybe not in france
Lmao I was so early I got a notification while watching the video.
Players could sign longer than 4 year deals back when LeBron was signing his extension with Cleveland I believe
So are you guys stating that Stern was right to rig G6 for the Lakers over the Kings? Because of ratings?
Fr like cmon at least kings vs nets wouldn’t be a boring sweep
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imagine being mad that the lakers nets knicks or warriors didnt make finals
😭😭😭 the Kings Lakers thing was funny
Tbh hear me out, if the spurs actually did that shii, that's tuff
No A/c Jordan would have took that personally
Can someone time stamp the jimmy butler theory please I can’t find it
short answer: yes
long answer: yessssssssssssssssssss
Love the vids
Don’t let your star players make friends on Team USA, only super-teams can come from it. 🤣 Or, give me more of that ‘17 Warriors… that ish was fun to watch. How else you think Draymond got KD’s number?
Yeah, I don't think the big three is a conspiracy, we know they coordinated and I am pretty sure it was discussed openly the year before.
I was surprised to see that one. LeBron, Wade and Bosh had been known to be close friends for years before they teamed up, so everyone knew that they coordinated to be on the same team.
Isn’t there video where you can see the creased envelope?
You know its true its damn true
Just face it, LeBron started the player generated super teams👌🏽
Hate on Bron uplift mj smh
85' Draft: Yes (Money talks)
MJ's 93' retirement: Too many questions plus the rumour linked to his dad's death (This ones too sad tbh)
Bella twins: #### Yes. If you did once you probably did it again lol
02' Kings: Yes they got finessed out of that game. A guilty ref who's done it before c'mon
Flu game: Nah he was hungover. (Try playing ball when your belly hurt or with the flu)
CP3 trade: Unsure. Stern could have flexed the 1# pick in any scenario ( Did it for the Cavs 2 years in a row)
Heat game: Nah that could of backfired on the spurs
Heat super-team: Of course it's planned players talk lol but so what
The spurs big 3 was used to heat
React to swishout “2016 finals changed everything “
yes the morris twins did that you cant change my mind
David Stern was a STERN business man, god damn. All this shit tie back to HIM.
Cm punk? You named him first!! Lol didn’t say the rock, hulk hogan, effin stone cold??? I haven’t watched since I was a kid, but those were some legends! Rey mysterio too!
OH NAH 😭😭😭
I guys should takeover the pod don’t lie podcast…
OSN top 25 of all time reaction???👀
Kd did that with the nets tho
Guess Bron really is from up north 🤣. If you can't play in the heat idk bout you...
We the ones 🩸👆🏾
Fuck the pretext, Russel Westbrook averaged a triple double. Alright give me my likes please. Thanks
10:09 Come on, the man got drunk, ate an entire pizza, and that makes you sick the next day. Nothing wrong with it just no conspiracy.