The Sabonis take is 100% facts because he was drafted in '86 in the first round and for some reason didnt/couldnt play until '95, it was crazy af. He was an absolute animal in Europe during those years
@@tominator028 you mean he was from occupied Lithuania, not Russia right? And besides you know why he wasn't allowed to leave? He was the best player in the SSSR (Soviet Union) 1 other player was drafted also from there Sarunas Marciulionis, but he played in golden state run DMC team both of them are in the HoF though.
Bro the 2010 Finals forever lives in my memory as my favorite series I’ve ever watched. Walked into school the next day, last day of school, walked right up to my Celtic fan English teacher, and went “where was Pierce?????? I thought he was the mannnnn!!!!!”
as a lakers fan whose best friend is a heat fan, i look back and wonder if the 2020 ring would still have as big of an asterisk if the heat won. i swear it feels like people only clown so hard on it because it was lebron and the lakers. if jimmy was able to carry his team past "kobe's honorary 6th," i really think there would be way less hoopla regarding the bubble.
@@goldlion9066 If we remove the "J" from your name we get Amari Stouadmire's first name, which leads into the fact that Russell Westbrook averaged a triple double last season.
Honestly I completely agree with his arvydas sabonis takes because he truly was a monster if only Russia would have allowed him to leave because if memory serves me it was quite literally Russia not letting him leave he would have been a 25 and 10 guy who could have averaged five assists easily if allowed to be a facilitator to an extent.
Hearing fans try to take away any championship is always funny to me. To this day, some Sixers & Celtics fans still tell me about how they could've won in 2019 (as they're clearly still dealing with trauma from Kawhi's greatness)
There are no such things as a Mickey Mouse ring. Everyone has an opportunity and out of 30 teams, 29 of them squander it. It’s not the best team’s fault that their contemporaries failed to do their job.
i love this video cuz it shows how stupid ppl who say a certain team doesn’t deserve a ring cuz so and so happened when in reality every team got a bit of luck in order to win a chip
@@seymourdollaz8424 , yea, but Kobe at least won 2 as the guy. KD will never win a championship as the guy, and Kyrie will never be anything without Lebron, and the farther we get from 2016, the more it will show.
As a Dallas Mavs fan, I was only 10 in 2006 when that series went down. I have gone back and rewatched highlights of that series and the foul calls are….. horrific. Thankfully the 2011 title happened.
Or maybe DWade was just too good? The Mavs were never a good defensive team and Dirk was never a good defender (which is why lots of people have kg over him) maybe they didn’t have enough patience to not foul one of the greatest slashers of all time???
I stared watching bball in 06 and became a huge d wade fan. Also watched the Celtics go from trash to 66-16 with a chip. Then 2010 was painful af. Wild ride to the start of my nba fan hood
I feel your pain I hate that we lost Game 7 in 2010 if Perk never got hurt we would’ve won that game but it didn’t help in game 7 we had a lead and didn’t finish it we can make up for it! ☘️
The 81 Houston rockets also had the mvp of the league Moses Malone…. Despite the 40-42 record (last mvp to win on a losing record) I would say the voters got it right since he carried his team to the finals
I had a feeling when Kobe Bryant tragically died in the helicopter crash that the Lakers would win the title that year. It just seemed to make sense. Also Anthony Davis and Lebron were an unstoppable duo that year.
Funfact: The 96 Bulls have a 58-4 against NON-EXPANSION teams. The Bulls only had a 14-6 record against EXPANSION teams. If anything, the Expansion teams kinda made it harder.
@@ferchango6359 exactly bro. More teams means more variety, which means more elite and talented players you have to take down. Less teams, means an easier time to the chip. Just look at bill Russel. All time great, top ten, fifteen player of all time, but he did play against a bunch of plumbers and only 8 or 9 teams.
About sabonis The United States had some trade thing with Soviet countries where their athletes could not play in western countries. that’s not really a reach to me. Especially knowing how dominant he was in Russia. Dude was luka levels of dominant.
I accidently Stumbled upon your channel and at first I didn't think I would like it but you guys have became my favorite current subscription I always look forward and get excited from your uploads and constantly binge and rewatch your episodes Great job on everything. If possible I would like to see some of the older style videos like top 50 lists or ranking a players season but with having sages commentary aswell I think would be a cool video but anyways great job on everything.
Jerry West in 2007 as GM of the Grizzlies gifted the Lakers Pau for some M&Ms Lakers traded Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton, Aaron McKie, the draft rights to Marc Gasol and two first-round picks to the Grizzlies in exchange for Pau Gasol and a second-round ...At the time Marc Gasol was not projected to be as good as he turned out
11:03 Blowing a 15 point lead from good defense would be astounding, but usually its just missing shots constantly. Especially if your stats plummet, miraculous defense.
Arvydas Sabonis was the original European unicorn --> 7'3", dominant in the paint both offensively and defensively, could pass, could shoot three pointers etc... people just didn't see him in his physical prime and he had ankle, knee and Achilles tendon injuries
i love this video cause he really gave no argument for the 2011 mavericks lol. 2011 being the first real championship of all time is so poetic. dirk's one ring holds more weight than all of KD's, thats for damn sure lol but yeah i love this video cause it basically makes every ring a "bubble."
Bubble ring is a countless ring , everybody knows that one has an asterisk, it doesnt count, there were no competence what so ever. And James came out saying it was the most difficult one? HAHAHAHAHA what a joke... and asked for respect? GTFOH man respect is earned...Mickey Mouse ring DOESNT COUNT!!!
Kobe and the Lakers would have easily beaten LeBron's Cavs in the finals in 2009. People forget that the reason LeBron has such a high winning percentage against Kobe was because between 04-05 to 06-07 Kobe's team was trash; and between 2011-2016, LeBron was either on the big 3 Heat, or Kobe was completely out of his prime (2013-14 - 2015-16 seasons). However during the 2008-2009 season the Lakers swept the Cavs during the regular season. LeBron and the Cavs would have lost to the Lakers in most likely 5, but at most 6 games.
@Mark Good Yeah I think you're really misunderstanding the point that I'm bringing up. I have LeBron over Kobe all time, so I'm not necessarily arguing Kobe is a better player. My main point is in the 08-09 season LeBron and the Cavs would have hands-down lost to the Lakers if they met in the finals. Lol I agree with you on the Pau point. The closest player on an all time level LeBron had was 2 time All star, and all time Cleveland Cavalier Zydrunas Ilgaskus. Outside of that Mo Williams was an all star in that season, but he isn't on Ilgaskus all time ranking imo. Also while you're right about LeBron's stats being superior on an average basis against Kobe in those match-ups; you have to take into consideration context. Like for example, all of Kobe's stats cumulatively dropped on his last 3 years. That's not LeBron's fault, but clearly Kobe was washed when he faced LeBron in those years, and as a result, his stats would dip. That being said; yes LeBron is higher than Kobe all time, but I am certain in 09 he would've lost in the finals.
This is reaching hard but let's be real those are the Skip's 'arguments' on national TV!!! 'Avoiding x team', 'team choking', 'saving someone's legacy', 'baby team', sounds a lot like Skip to me
Dude missed some good points 2016 Iggy had back problems as well. No iggy, draymond, Bogut, left us with no defense for games 5 & 6. Game 7 was just a choke job. And Devon booker got injured in 2021 as well. He still played but it affected him
I think more people would accept the bubble championship if LeBron and the Lakers were even remotely good in any of their other seasons. But it was two embarrassing playoff misses, one embarrassing first round exit, and a bubble ring. In context, I never got a good idea of how good the team actually was, bc they spectacularly failed at everything else
Lakers in 2020 were way better built than 2021, they had more size and BETTER veteran leadership in Lebron and Rondo. They also lost key players who fit well in the system after 2020
Gotta love that, having no competition (less teams) and having a lot of competition (more teams) in the league are both negatives and therefore asterisks.
Born in Chicago, during the bulls second three-peat run. Now I live in Boston and I got into the NBA a little while before they dropped the last dance. Now the Celtics are in the finals against the warriors. Don’t break my heart, Tatum.
Sounds like a Skip Bayless excuse vid; literally all the chips against bron & anyone a threat to MJ This vid sums up Skip Bayless’ theory for each chip
This man video was like yall coach suck, injuries happened, better teams lost earlier, yall dont play defense, yall dont play offense, to many freethrows, foreign players wont leave home, nobody's good at basketball I rest my case! 😂😂😂😂 This was a great video though Loved It!
This vid was obviously made by a lebron fan. 2013- ray allen didn’t save the heat, he saved lebrons legacy with that shot. Also why wasn’t Tim Duncan in to close the game?
The ‘01 Bucks were an offensive monster that season and had swept the Lakers, so it might’ve gone down similar to the ‘04 Pistons, where nobody expects the Lakers to lose. Would it have been more iconic, probably not, but potentially a better series.
i’ll try my best to invalidate the warriors one since it happened: played a nuggets team that was missing their 2nd and 3rd best players, poole injured ja in round 2 and he was out for the series, they got to play the d all as luka’s instead of the first seed suns, key injuries in the west like ad/kawhi/dame (just throwing names out), and played an inexperienced celtics team with no finals appearances
Lmaoo i love how the video did what it was intended to do, i see it only hurt yall boys when it was about MJ tho… at tht point it was personal huh?? 😂 Try not to take personal challenge lowkey.
you can always find a reason why a team didnt win a title by just skill. back during the nba lockout season san antonio won a ring, when jordan won his first title they said the lakers were old, when the piston beat the lakers magic got hurt, when isaiah got hurt the lakers beat them. some say the celtics wouldnt have won all those titles if the league was bigger and it had more black players... it doesnt matter luck is behind all titles in some form or fashion.
In 1991 their players getting hurt to miss game 5… the bulls were already up 3-1 and the lakers were ready to throw in the towel…. As for magic having hiv… the dude won an mvp just 1 year ago, his team finished with the 2nd best record in the conference but were the 2 seed because of the old division rules….. all the laker players were around 28-31 so they were far from being old….
@@BeginnerHoops no I believe the lakers dodged all the hard matchups in a bubble with no home court and time to rest. It’s a sham ring and no one serious actually considers it worth anything
@@LukaMagic97 LMAOOO clippers blowing a 3-1 lead and bucks getting swept was the lakers fault?? If you a clipper fan or lebron hater just admit it haha
1996 bulls vs sonics the reason The coach didn’t put Payton on Jordan because Payton was coming back from a minor injury and he thought he needed Payton more on offense…. It’s hard to say if the outcome would’ve been different because had Payton had more energy towards defense he would’ve had less energy on offense…. So it’s up in the air….
Wish that kawhi stayed in Toronto, he could have won like two more to solidified his position as of the upper echelons even more rather than todays time.
9:25 Gary Payton came out and also said in a interview he was playing hurt or something like that in a VladTV Interview which is why he wasn’t guarding Jordan at first till games 4 and 5
I mean the Gary Payton one is facts though. They were winning with Payton guarding Jordan but the coach was too stupid to think of that until they were 1 game away from going home. I don't think that's a reach at all that if they just did it from the beginning then Seattle probably wins.
That's hardly an asterisk though, I mean you cant blame the shortcomings of not making that decision an asterisk. Also, you heard what MJ had to say about that.
@@goldenstatewarriors9418 MJ and Kobe both have egos the size of planets so I put 0 stock into what they said about themselves. Also what's he supposed to say? "Oh yeah, Gary Payton was kicking my fucking ass."
jordan will obviously say that but looking back at series and stats payton was clamping jordan hard. dude shot like 5-20 or something in a game@@goldenstatewarriors9418
So according to this dude, a Championship only counts if every team has no players suffer injuries, no trade acquisitions occur, and only the #1 seeded teams of the regular season are entitled to play each other in the finals...and there can be no longer be any more expansion teams from now until the end of the league. Flawless logic right there. NBA 2kwhatever simulations can't even pull that shit off.
Nah sayin a Shaq team taking too many free throws is rigged is craaaaaazzzyyyyyyy. I need somebody to check the percentages on those Lakers and Heat series.
He had a good point with that Utah one. I'm surprised. I did not know about those shots whatsoever, accept for the "pushoff" and I mean outside of that, his takes were hilariously bad.
As an ohioan who is a life long celtics fan, it seems like the NBA has never wanted lebron to actually dominate. Also as a bengals fan, we got beef now. Lol
Yeah Tim Donaghy is a pos but you're out your mind if you don't think they still don't rig these games. It's the no calls now that you don't see. And giving the team that's getting crushed by 20 a bunch of fouls while they're down to even out the numbers. Go watch a podcast with Tim in it he's calling out everyone. In fact this just happened in the Jazz Mavs series. When the Jazz would get close to winning the Mavs would get a bunch of calls to put them back in the lead... The refs are also petty as hell, it's quite interesting actually. Fucked up though. Especially because the Mavs were the underdog every game... Someone made a huge payout on that series.
At least he made the distinction that the Sixers and Raptors was the semi's, a lot of people seem to think the was the Conference Finals. I've also argued with a guy who thought the "Bubble" was a completely different season from the '20 season.
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@@lemonandcornmaster4861 what a coincidence
disagree
The Sabonis take is 100% facts because he was drafted in '86 in the first round and for some reason didnt/couldnt play until '95, it was crazy af. He was an absolute animal in Europe during those years
Because he was from Russia and they didn’t want him in America. Cold War stuff.
@@tominator028 looks like something similar would happen today
@@tominator028 you mean he was from occupied Lithuania, not Russia right? And besides you know why he wasn't allowed to leave? He was the best player in the SSSR (Soviet Union) 1 other player was drafted also from there Sarunas Marciulionis, but he played in golden state run DMC team both of them are in the HoF though.
When overseas players get drafted they usually still have contracts with the overseas team they play for so he prolly had a 10 year deal with them
@@703ebankz Again.. no. Lithuania was occupied by Soviet Union and Sabonis couldn't leave, because Soviets wouldn't let him
Grown men in this world have probably laughed at the Lakers saying the word "Bubble" more than I said "Bubble" in my entire past adolescence.😂
It’s
SOLZ, SAGE, AND MCCOCKINER ALL IN ONE VID
the real big 3
Mccockiner 😩
They have reacted to a Barry video another time
Bro the 2010 Finals forever lives in my memory as my favorite series I’ve ever watched. Walked into school the next day, last day of school, walked right up to my Celtic fan English teacher, and went “where was Pierce?????? I thought he was the mannnnn!!!!!”
Black mamba was not letting that series slip out his hand
True. You can put an Asterisk on ANY title if you look hard enough for one.
Exactly. Imagine trying to take away the accomplishments of the past.
@@Solodolo842006 Heat win was rigged idgaf
as a lakers fan whose best friend is a heat fan, i look back and wonder if the 2020 ring would still have as big of an asterisk if the heat won. i swear it feels like people only clown so hard on it because it was lebron and the lakers. if jimmy was able to carry his team past "kobe's honorary 6th," i really think there would be way less hoopla regarding the bubble.
thats obvious lol. Its only to discredit bron@@ghostflame9211
@@ghostflame9211bingo
Barry is some of the best content on the site. Also, did you know that Russell Westbrook is averaging a triple double?
Goat.
I didn't? What stats my man
I knew that, but I know you didn’t know that Russell Westbrook averaged a triple double.
Barrys content is trash
@@goldlion9066 If we remove the "J" from your name we get Amari Stouadmire's first name, which leads into the fact that Russell Westbrook averaged a triple double last season.
Honestly I completely agree with his arvydas sabonis takes because he truly was a monster if only Russia would have allowed him to leave because if memory serves me it was quite literally Russia not letting him leave he would have been a 25 and 10 guy who could have averaged five assists easily if allowed to be a facilitator to an extent.
I mean have you seen accomplishments it's absolutely insane I say that he would have been a guaranteed 11 time all star at a minimum
I truly believe the Blazers would have owned the 1990s if Sabonis was allowed to play instead of the Bulls.
True. What we see from Jokic is what we could’ve seen from Sabonis had he gotten proper NBA experience and time
The same team that put a jacket on petrovic nice thinking
@@akeme25 y’all are pushing it lmaoo
Barry is awesome. Love his NBA and NFL content. He’s absolutely hilarious
Arvydas Sabonis would’ve been a top 25 player if he played in the NBA in his prime
Hearing fans try to take away any championship is always funny to me. To this day, some Sixers & Celtics fans still tell me about how they could've won in 2019 (as they're clearly still dealing with trauma from Kawhi's greatness)
In 2019 the Celtics got steam rolled by the bucks. They blew them out in game 1 yes but the bucks put their foot down
@@kingchiarito7695 best series of Middleton’s career
Philly fans have a legit claim that they could've won. Game 7 last second shot is hardly decisive
didn't kawhi hit a lucky shot tho
@@ubadman1 No they don't lol the game was still tied so even if Kawhi missed the shot the game would've just gone to OT where the 76ers were 2-3
Sage saying he’d be top 20 in the 80s is crazy af.
Not really
@@bme4449 Ok
It's wild. The 80s is nothing like the 50s and 60s, he funny af for saying that.
@@icarusxiii lmao frfr. The ignorance level is astounding.
In the 50s I'd be the greatest player of all time
There are no such things as a Mickey Mouse ring. Everyone has an opportunity and out of 30 teams, 29 of them squander it. It’s not the best team’s fault that their contemporaries failed to do their job.
Right. The video is for shits and giggles and just showing that you can put an asterisk on anything.
i love this video cuz it shows how stupid ppl who say a certain team doesn’t deserve a ring cuz so and so happened when in reality every team got a bit of luck in order to win a chip
“The 2 best number 2’s on the same team crazy”😂😂😂😂
Is a facts tho 😭😭
Idk kobe was a number 2 for 3 rings.
@@seymourdollaz8424 what bleach u drinking?
@@dmunneh9527 he clearly was cause Steph ain’t get swept yet 😂😂
@@seymourdollaz8424 , yea, but Kobe at least won 2 as the guy. KD will never win a championship as the guy, and Kyrie will never be anything without Lebron, and the farther we get from 2016, the more it will show.
KD is still the guy. kyrie is a 2 but kd is not. Sure he joined warriors but him and steph were equals@@calvisblevinsjr2700
As a Dallas Mavs fan, I was only 10 in 2006 when that series went down. I have gone back and rewatched highlights of that series and the foul calls are….. horrific. Thankfully the 2011 title happened.
Dwyane wade was also fantastic , as he was in 2011 too, it’s a shame he had to babysit Lebron in that series
it’s quite obvious david stern knew he wronged the mavs so he forced lebron to throw the series. it’s truly the only logical explanation my brotha
@@cartierjosh nah bro didn't you hear it was the mob
Or maybe DWade was just too good? The Mavs were never a good defensive team and Dirk was never a good defender (which is why lots of people have kg over him) maybe they didn’t have enough patience to not foul one of the greatest slashers of all time???
@@Arturo_Kilgore_Morgan some people really shouldn't have social media
I stared watching bball in 06 and became a huge d wade fan. Also watched the Celtics go from trash to 66-16 with a chip. Then 2010 was painful af. Wild ride to the start of my nba fan hood
I feel your pain I hate that we lost Game 7 in 2010 if Perk never got hurt we would’ve won that game but it didn’t help in game 7 we had a lead and didn’t finish it we can make up for it! ☘️
@@JDolla93 yeah it was like 12 in the fourth quarter, but good old doc found a way to blow that lead 😢
@@crippledepre9539 you right man 😭 between that and Game 6 ECF 2012 why didn’t we close out?! Lebron played like a mad man
Barry is such a troll, free content honestly lmao
The 81 Houston rockets also had the mvp of the league Moses Malone…. Despite the 40-42 record (last mvp to win on a losing record) I would say the voters got it right since he carried his team to the finals
Suree these rings don’t count but did you know Russell Westbrook averaged a triple double
Back to Back
@@xxidlk999xx6 To back
@@bilindameen6302 and almost to back
Damn not a single ring in the history of the NBA counts........that sucks
I had a feeling when Kobe Bryant tragically died in the helicopter crash that the Lakers would win the title that year. It just seemed to make sense. Also Anthony Davis and Lebron were an unstoppable duo that year.
Sage can’t be talking about being top 20 in the 80s after seeing his jumper 😭
“The way you got magic was mickey” 😂😂
Barry needs more love from the community
Funfact: The 96 Bulls have a 58-4 against NON-EXPANSION teams. The Bulls only had a 14-6 record against EXPANSION teams. If anything, the Expansion teams kinda made it harder.
People are stupid, the expansions created a lot of Legendary Duos instead of having full stacked HOF teams.
I think the point of that statement was expansion teams took good players from non expansion teams, making it easier for the bulls.
@@ferchango6359 exactly bro. More teams means more variety, which means more elite and talented players you have to take down. Less teams, means an easier time to the chip. Just look at bill Russel. All time great, top ten, fifteen player of all time, but he did play against a bunch of plumbers and only 8 or 9 teams.
@@paulh.9937 more teams also means more talent dilution and chances for lesser talent to fill more roster spots
@@Devhawk124 then that would also make it easier for ever other contenting team as well.
You have a Logical fallacy here.
MESSAGE!
About sabonis
The United States had some trade thing with Soviet countries where their athletes could not play in western countries. that’s not really a reach to me. Especially knowing how dominant he was in Russia. Dude was luka levels of dominant.
I accidently Stumbled upon your channel and at first I didn't think I would like it but you guys have became my favorite current subscription I always look forward and get excited from your uploads and constantly binge and rewatch your episodes Great job on everything.
If possible I would like to see some of the older style videos like top 50 lists or ranking a players season but with having sages commentary aswell I think would be a cool video but anyways great job on everything.
13:24 BRO WTF DID THAT COME FROM AND ITS NOT A FOUL (every raptors fan ever including me)
Jerry West in 2007 as GM of the Grizzlies gifted the Lakers Pau for some M&Ms
Lakers traded Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton, Aaron McKie, the draft rights to Marc Gasol and two first-round picks to the Grizzlies in exchange for Pau Gasol and a second-round
...At the time Marc Gasol was not projected to be as good as he turned out
And we got Stephen A's incredible Kwame rant out of this
2020 wasn't just a bubble playoff but Orlando had home court advantage during the entire playoffs and blew it
Lol fr
11:03 Blowing a 15 point lead from good defense would be astounding, but usually its just missing shots constantly. Especially if your stats plummet, miraculous defense.
Arvydas Sabonis was the original European unicorn --> 7'3", dominant in the paint both offensively and defensively, could pass, could shoot three pointers etc... people just didn't see him in his physical prime and he had ankle, knee and Achilles tendon injuries
We need more Barry reactions y’all are hilarious anytime y’all look at his videos
i love this video cause he really gave no argument for the 2011 mavericks lol. 2011 being the first real championship of all time is so poetic. dirk's one ring holds more weight than all of KD's, thats for damn sure lol
but yeah i love this video cause it basically makes every ring a "bubble."
Bubble ring is a countless ring , everybody knows that one has an asterisk, it doesnt count, there were no competence what so ever. And James came out saying it was the most difficult one? HAHAHAHAHA what a joke... and asked for respect? GTFOH man respect is earned...Mickey Mouse ring DOESNT COUNT!!!
What's with all the capital letters? And no it still counts as all rings count. You wouldn't say this if the Lakers didn't win it.
16:18 the way sage said "Them Rams man" is hilarious
Sage is such a mood 😂😂😂
Kobe and the Lakers would have easily beaten LeBron's Cavs in the finals in 2009. People forget that the reason LeBron has such a high winning percentage against Kobe was because between 04-05 to 06-07 Kobe's team was trash; and between 2011-2016, LeBron was either on the big 3 Heat, or Kobe was completely out of his prime (2013-14 - 2015-16 seasons). However during the 2008-2009 season the Lakers swept the Cavs during the regular season. LeBron and the Cavs would have lost to the Lakers in most likely 5, but at most 6 games.
@Mark Good Yeah I think you're really misunderstanding the point that I'm bringing up. I have LeBron over Kobe all time, so I'm not necessarily arguing Kobe is a better player. My main point is in the 08-09 season LeBron and the Cavs would have hands-down lost to the Lakers if they met in the finals. Lol I agree with you on the Pau point. The closest player on an all time level LeBron had was 2 time All star, and all time Cleveland Cavalier Zydrunas Ilgaskus. Outside of that Mo Williams was an all star in that season, but he isn't on Ilgaskus all time ranking imo.
Also while you're right about LeBron's stats being superior on an average basis against Kobe in those match-ups; you have to take into consideration context. Like for example, all of Kobe's stats cumulatively dropped on his last 3 years. That's not LeBron's fault, but clearly Kobe was washed when he faced LeBron in those years, and as a result, his stats would dip. That being said; yes LeBron is higher than Kobe all time, but I am certain in 09 he would've lost in the finals.
This is reaching hard but let's be real those are the Skip's 'arguments' on national TV!!! 'Avoiding x team', 'team choking', 'saving someone's legacy', 'baby team', sounds a lot like Skip to me
Dude missed some good points 2016 Iggy had back problems as well. No iggy, draymond, Bogut, left us with no defense for games 5 & 6. Game 7 was just a choke job. And Devon booker got injured in 2021 as well. He still played but it affected him
@Tolu Ojo He flew all over the court against the fraud Suns after Brook Lopez destroyed the Kevin Huerter ECF team.
@Tolu Ojo facts
I think more people would accept the bubble championship if LeBron and the Lakers were even remotely good in any of their other seasons. But it was two embarrassing playoff misses, one embarrassing first round exit, and a bubble ring. In context, I never got a good idea of how good the team actually was, bc they spectacularly failed at everything else
Y'all would accept it because LeBrons name is associated with it if it was anybody else? No.
Lakers in 2020 were way better built than 2021, they had more size and BETTER veteran leadership in Lebron and Rondo. They also lost key players who fit well in the system after 2020
@@Kilooma So they didn't have veteran leadership out of LeBron for the next two years after that lol.
@@Kilooma facts
Everyone would accept the ring if the Lakers didn't win it.
I’m 4:16 minutes in and they didn’t stop the video not once to say some dumb shit. I’m proud
Gotta love that, having no competition (less teams) and having a lot of competition (more teams) in the league are both negatives and therefore asterisks.
Fucking perfect
This dude be like: This team beat the Cavs in the first round, but Lebron wasn't even born yet, so this is a mickey mouse ring.
I don't know how I got here but you had me laughing so hard bros. "Even the way they got Magic was Mickey" I fucking spit up my drink. XD
Y’all should’ve kept zooming in on Sage at 0:39 you know how he feels about segregation basketball 🤣
Y’all complaining about all his explanations. But saying Lebron winning a title in the bubble due too a worldwide pandemic is credible
Solz: HMMM
Sage: I AIN'T GON LIE
Born in Chicago, during the bulls second three-peat run. Now I live in Boston and I got into the NBA a little while before they dropped the last dance. Now the Celtics are in the finals against the warriors. Don’t break my heart, Tatum.
This didn't age well
Let’s give it another year
@@patbres1205 good luck
He said at the beginning that if you get pissed off, then he did his job
That Mickey Mouse ring bull shit pisses me off how is it any less of a fucking ring
1:19 last moment I watched this video. Couldn't keep up with not hearing the original video over the laugh of a commentator
Y’all need to get Barry on the podcast
Barry is the funniest sports “analyst” on youtube
Wow…it just caught me off guard you guys started watching basketball in 2010….
Sounds like a Skip Bayless excuse vid; literally all the chips against bron & anyone a threat to MJ
This vid sums up Skip Bayless’ theory for each chip
That's why when people call 2020 a fake ring its dumb.
EXACTLY!!
bro i know barry was CRYING shitting on 2016 lmao.
automatic subtitles made "KD's better!" into "Kitty Bear" and that's a W 😂
I love Barry McCockner. Dude cracks me up
This man video was like yall coach suck, injuries happened, better teams lost earlier, yall dont play defense, yall dont play offense, to many freethrows, foreign players wont leave home, nobody's good at basketball I rest my case! 😂😂😂😂 This was a great video though Loved It!
This vid was obviously made by a lebron fan.
2013- ray allen didn’t save the heat, he saved lebrons legacy with that shot. Also why wasn’t Tim Duncan in to close the game?
Nah you just a butthurt old head fan🤣
I love Barry’s videos so much
The ‘01 Bucks were an offensive monster that season and had swept the Lakers, so it might’ve gone down similar to the ‘04 Pistons, where nobody expects the Lakers to lose. Would it have been more iconic, probably not, but potentially a better series.
I'm trying to remember the 2001 bucks
I been said this for years ... They didnt want Bucks cause it would actually made the finals interesting. Plus they wanted Sixers to play
i’ll try my best to invalidate the warriors one since it happened: played a nuggets team that was missing their 2nd and 3rd best players, poole injured ja in round 2 and he was out for the series, they got to play the d all as luka’s instead of the first seed suns, key injuries in the west like ad/kawhi/dame (just throwing names out), and played an inexperienced celtics team with no finals appearances
27 free throws is ridiculous but gotta remember hack a shaq was used religiously in 4th qrts
Those calls were mostly called on Wade.
Funny thing is, the only thing that triggered me 💀💀😂 is when Solz said “imagine the bucks vs pelicans in the finals” 😭😭😭💔
You can legit put a asterisk on any ring in nba history, lol
I’m glad my favorite player, CP3, wasn’t mentioned in this video
I AIN'T GON LIE not putting Payton on MJ from the start was dumb as hell.
FINALLY someone actually exposes the bulls win over jazz, MJ clear as day pushed him but the refs are obv bias
Lmaoo i love how the video did what it was intended to do, i see it only hurt yall boys when it was about MJ tho… at tht point it was personal huh?? 😂 Try not to take personal challenge lowkey.
People always reacts when MJ
this is a certified hood classic
you can always find a reason why a team didnt win a title by just skill. back during the nba lockout season san antonio won a ring, when jordan won his first title they said the lakers were old, when the piston beat the lakers magic got hurt, when isaiah got hurt the lakers beat them. some say the celtics wouldnt have won all those titles if the league was bigger and it had more black players... it doesnt matter luck is behind all titles in some form or fashion.
In 1991 their players getting hurt to miss game 5… the bulls were already up 3-1 and the lakers were ready to throw in the towel…. As for magic having hiv… the dude won an mvp just 1 year ago, his team finished with the 2nd best record in the conference but were the 2 seed because of the old division rules….. all the laker players were around 28-31 so they were far from being old….
2020 is still the most illegitimate ring out there
How? You really think the heat with bam and dragic would've beaten the lakers?
No 2021 is.
@@BeginnerHoops no I believe the lakers dodged all the hard matchups in a bubble with no home court and time to rest. It’s a sham ring and no one serious actually considers it worth anything
@@LukaMagic97 LMAOOO clippers blowing a 3-1 lead and bucks getting swept was the lakers fault?? If you a clipper fan or lebron hater just admit it haha
@@BeginnerHoops neither, I’m just a realist. Fake ass ring bro. Didn’t matter who won it it’s fraudulent as fuck
1996 bulls vs sonics the reason The coach didn’t put Payton on Jordan because Payton was coming back from a minor injury and he thought he needed Payton more on offense…. It’s hard to say if the outcome would’ve been different because had Payton had more energy towards defense he would’ve had less energy on offense…. So it’s up in the air….
The bubblelicious bubble ring
Wish that kawhi stayed in Toronto, he could have won like two more to solidified his position as of the upper echelons even more rather than todays time.
9:25 Gary Payton came out and also said in a interview he was playing hurt or something like that in a VladTV Interview which is why he wasn’t guarding Jordan at first till games 4 and 5
Solz started watching basketball in 2010? I feel old AF!
Great perspective during your discussion and the wrap up.
I mean the Gary Payton one is facts though. They were winning with Payton guarding Jordan but the coach was too stupid to think of that until they were 1 game away from going home. I don't think that's a reach at all that if they just did it from the beginning then Seattle probably wins.
Nah Seattle ain't winning against Jordan but they could've lost in 7 tho
That's hardly an asterisk though, I mean you cant blame the shortcomings of not making that decision an asterisk. Also, you heard what MJ had to say about that.
@@goldenstatewarriors9418 MJ and Kobe both have egos the size of planets so I put 0 stock into what they said about themselves. Also what's he supposed to say? "Oh yeah, Gary Payton was kicking my fucking ass."
jordan will obviously say that but looking back at series and stats payton was clamping jordan hard. dude shot like 5-20 or something in a game@@goldenstatewarriors9418
Tso is a Steelers fan big ass W
So according to this dude, a Championship only counts if every team has no players suffer injuries, no trade acquisitions occur, and only the #1 seeded teams of the regular season are entitled to play each other in the finals...and there can be no longer be any more expansion teams from now until the end of the league. Flawless logic right there. NBA 2kwhatever simulations can't even pull that shit off.
What’s so funny is the guy reading the reasons why each teams is soooo sarcastic espically when he drops an F bomb
Bruh it's true I hate that people act like there hasn't always been injures or just things happen that's why it takes work and some luck
Nah sayin a Shaq team taking too many free throws is rigged is craaaaaazzzyyyyyyy. I need somebody to check the percentages on those Lakers and Heat series.
He had a good point with that Utah one. I'm surprised. I did not know about those shots whatsoever, accept for the "pushoff" and I mean outside of that, his takes were hilariously bad.
The finals should just be refs vs injuries every year
The Bubble ring shit mad annoying. People only say that cause it’s Lebron and wtf would you like him too do.
As an ohioan who is a life long celtics fan, it seems like the NBA has never wanted lebron to actually dominate.
Also as a bengals fan, we got beef now. Lol
Solz forgot it was the 80s the Celtics probably were doing cocaine in the finals
Sage thats a W steelers fan always knew I liked you
Yeah Tim Donaghy is a pos but you're out your mind if you don't think they still don't rig these games. It's the no calls now that you don't see. And giving the team that's getting crushed by 20 a bunch of fouls while they're down to even out the numbers. Go watch a podcast with Tim in it he's calling out everyone. In fact this just happened in the Jazz Mavs series. When the Jazz would get close to winning the Mavs would get a bunch of calls to put them back in the lead... The refs are also petty as hell, it's quite interesting actually. Fucked up though. Especially because the Mavs were the underdog every game... Someone made a huge payout on that series.
I saving this video for future arguments and Steelers is one of the greatest if not the greatest franchise
At least he made the distinction that the Sixers and Raptors was the semi's, a lot of people seem to think the was the Conference Finals. I've also argued with a guy who thought the "Bubble" was a completely different season from the '20 season.
Look at my dogs reacting to a dog
I gave it a like for the TB12 comment at the end haha
Dirk's ring is the most legit championship ring of all time. It's the one ring to rule them all.
Nah it’s just fuck bron ong