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CitizenCon predictions:
- Armoured frogs
- Starsky and Hutch gameplay
- New location: Xanadu
- Jam sandwiches
- Names 2.0: Clive, Sandra, Little Kenny
- Cinnamon production plant POI
- Musical lava
- Badger pheromones
- Theresa May dance emoji
Getting to yet another citcon with the innevitable non release of pyro is just too embarassing at this point
They just lie to their face and they still go😂
my predictions:
No squadron42 in 2024.
No squadron42 in 2025.
No squadron42 in 2026.
No working servermeshing in 2024 or 2025.
No basebuilding in 2024 or 2025.
No new gameplay modes or quest types.
More 100$+ ships that aren't really any different than existing ships.
I don't care about them showing someone traveling from Stanton to Pyro. Why? Because Chris stood on that CitCon 2019 stage and straight up showed a Carrack that was different than what we got traveling through a wormhole and he literally acted like it was actual game play and not a pre-rendered video and then said it was coming in 2020.
If they show it now, it doesn't matter because how do I know he's being honest this time?
You already know cig is not a honest developer / company. They can never ever be trusted again, after all these years of blatant raw delusions.
You know: Chris Roberts is not honest.
Well, they tried to focus on “stuff we can deliver in 12 months” last Citizencon, and look how that turned out. So maybe they’ll go back to “stuff we can’t deliver in 12 years.”
Sandworm equivent to create hype.
The funding must flow.
funding = spice
We will see,
Sandworms
Black Holes
Promises, promises and more promises.
CIG has never promised anything but ongoing development
@@christianmolick8647😂
I want to see a playable demo for Squadron42 released to everyone, and a release date. Also want to see what Nyx and a reworked Delamar/Levski look like now.
I'm scared to see what they did to my baby levski
Was some leaks of a reworked levski like 3 years ago
I have always been in this for SQ42. 😊 Hope it comes soon.
Huh lol, don't get me wrong. I would like to put my hand on a sq42 scenario and be privileged to a cinematic but chances of this happening ate so slim I can confidently say lol
@echo5827 levski to begin with from lore standpoint us part of another star system, nit stanton, sad as ambient and a bit style too demarked itself from lego stanton.. I don't ask any better than seeing levski 2.x but would that provoke right or false hope for extra star system beside pyro???
I fear endless concept sales again, lots of videos with fake footage and promises that won't be kept anyway.
And ships that will get nerfed weeks after release.
One thing that excites me about Planet Tech V5 that I have not seen anyone mention so far are: jungle biomes!
They finally got the jungle biome tech working, and that is what I want to see! While a lot of people have been complaining about ground vehicles being useless and stuff like the ATLS not serving a purpose outside of hangars, all-terrain vehicles will absolutely come in handy in a properly done jungle biome. You will either need a mech to get around or something like the Cyclone or URSA rover, especially if they do a good tree-top canopy to force ships to have to land a decent ways away from POIs.
Ah yes great call, I forgot about that!
With a lot of foligage and underbrush using a vehicle would be more of a detriment than anything no?
@@Fuar11 Depends. Wheeled vehicles would be useful in swampy areas that aren't too deep, whereas mechs would be useful for areas with a lot of thick foliage and underbrush.
EDIT: Come to think of it, stuff like the MPUV might also come in handy due to how small it is.
tho i think planet tech v5 will improve on the vehicle problem
“Properly done” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
Oh that's easy!
They'll tell you that Squadron 42 is "feature ready" ™ and that "Pyro will come next year" ™
They'll show you some vertical slides to fuel the hype and talk about new features that they want to implement to buy more time.
And you'all be hyped and start buying more ships (that either will never be released or nerfed to oblivion a few months later), so the comedy can go on for yet another year.
Really hoping to see Maelstorm and Planet Tech V5 showcasing all new biomes in new systems.
They HAVE TO.
I need to see where they're at with weather.
@@thumpertron lol
Lol
One thing to note is that Citizencon would have been mostly planned out earlier in the year, back when they though 4.0 would be out before Citizencon, so there's a good chance it's at least somewhat based on what comes after 4.0, such as Nyx and stuff.
"i'm tired bawss". Let's face it, if they put meshing and 4.0 in tomorrow it'd still feel like the empty husk it feels like today 😐
People will still feel that way even when 1.0 comes out, and that's because players consume content as soon as they come out then there's nothing left to do.
Those who take huge breaks or wait for the release will probably enjoy it better since they'll have a lot of content to go through.
@@gk.4102 It's making more and more sense to me that they should just stop feeding us and get on with the rest of the missing components.
We will be happy enough with a bunch of private, moddable servers, while they finish this freaking game off. A new survey asking for this would probably do very well.
If SC still feels like an empty husk after 4.0 it's not gonna get any better, just forget about it. For those of us who played when it was an empty husk, it's decent now there's just no reason to play
@@misapheonix If CIG stops releasing quaterly content to the public in order to save it for 1.0, then SC dies. Nobody will fund the project if they don't get some content right away in return.
Yep Pyro will have the same boring content that Stanton does just in a whole new area.
More needs to be done on Orgs in game for sure. It needs a whole dedicated menu in game for it, recruiting and promotions in game, org decals on ships and armour/outfits and of course bases in future.
SQ42 will be just two more years away
This is the first CitCon, that I'm not quite sure what they have to show that would... excite me. So many delays of everything in year 12 makes it hard to be optimistic anymore. I need 4.0 this year and a SQ42 release date to finally be able to have some belief again. Sick of them pushing these two down the road over and over.. and over again.
4:02 Soulsinger = Death of a Space Man. It's because they want death of a space man to be separate from star engine, as they want to sell SE but retain DoaSM as a unique feature of SC.
That is by far the most salient explanation/theory for Soulsinger I've encountered so far, by far, bravo.
There is nothing they can show me at this point that could hype me up. But if Tony Z. shows up even a cameo... damn, that would be rare.
I'm attending for the first time as well! Really excited!
Have a blast mate and try to get 1 on 1 with your favorite dev
@@critic_empower_joke_rlaxtslife Don’t forget to ask ‘em “When?”
@@rolinthor Are you trying to get him kicked out? You know what happened to the people who did the T pose at last Citizincon right?
I hope the focus is on SQ42, Base Building, & Future Star Systems (after Pyro). I personally would like to see a small showcase of what's coming in 4.0 and beyond.
hope to see you there o7
I think "Soul singer" is going to be the sub title for squadron 42. Most of the Wing Commander games had them, eg Wing Commander 3: Heart of the Tiger. So "Squadron 42: Soul Singer" is probably what its full name is.
I agree. They will probably be finding the tech that allows respawns into new bodies the lore talks about.
I expect them to announce…
1: 4.0 to PTU
2: Galaxy doing base building
3: Economy systems working together (mining-refining-trading-crafting for example)
4: Squadron 42 release date from an actor (Hammil?)
5: 3rd system/ engine tech (maybe jungle tech)
And as out there predictions
6: Player market place for selling items like an auction house
Or
7: An alien race added (Banu/Xian?)
Shame on every shill who goes to these events. I cannot imagine a worse way to spend time.
Terra will be showcased and they'll explore inside its main landing zone, Similar to Area 18 showcase in citizencon 2017. That's my strong feeling
That would be cool!
Things i don't want to see/don't care abt:
-pyro/server meshing
-sq 42 stuff
-raytracing/global illumination
-polaris/ships in general
-player customization shit
Interesting Things:
- Gameloop panel:
- gameplay for refining, hacking and bounty hunting 2.0)
- concepts for medical 2.0, farming, datarunning and science
- Maelstrom stuff
- Building Interiors
- Quantum
- Planet tech v5
- dynamic crash sides
- seasons
- new Star System
- Npc interactions
One thing is for sure, they need to blow everybody away with plans for releasing multiple systems next year, not just Pyro, along with major changes as part of the road to 1.0 full release. It will be Squadron 42 focused I’m sure, including the confirmed release date of 1st Sep 2025.
Great video. I bet money they show the next star system, because Pyro has nothing important new to show.
I bet they'll be talking about SoulSinger. I have no idea what that is, but they'll be mentioning it.
Expectations: plans, hopes, dreams, hopes, possible things, anticipations, desires, prospects, assumptions, hopes, excuses, rationalization, and nothing else. So more of the same lies and broken promises that we've seen over the last 12 years.
After 12 years and $800 million, they should be at final release v1.0 or higher by now, not alpha v0.0.3.24.1. They're more worried about space cows and tattoos than they are actually fixing long standing bugs.
Time for them to shift all staff into new plans: stabilize Stanton and Pyro, fix 99% of bugs, beta by early next year with 1.0 by end of 2025. THEN they use this stable basis for adding the other systems and new features/items, use the current PTU for testing the new things, but never release it to live 1.x until 99% of bugs are fixed. Terra can be 2.0, and so on down the list for other systems and features.
Adding broken crap on top of other broken crap just complicates the bugs and resolution.
I have thought about this since you posted.
There is just so much going on with the game right now, I just don't see all of it coming together as one by next year at this time.
So this year's prediction is No game release for 2025 but much improved technically. That should help Alpha SC be more game like.
My confidence in CIG's ability to deliver is swiftly draining. RMQ was supposed to decrease latency. It was a dumpster fire. We'll see...
I'm not that invested though. I only spent one startet pack on it. Had some really fun sessions.
Top 3 predictions:
1. S42 release date. I don't want a 'window', that's too vague. I want a date.
2. I do think they'll show more Pyro stuff. Yes, I agree that it's a joke at this point but I don't think that will stop them.
3. Concept fluff that we won't see for another 5 years.
Lastly; it was heart wrenching when you listed the gameplay loops we are still waiting for. Just want to add "Science". Anyone else remember Science? I have a huge Endeavor spaceship to do Science but we still have no idea what that is. Maybe someday they'll figure it out as well and share it with us LOL !
I need habs, more decorations, things to do on my off time from cargo hauling all the time, I can feel it in my plums!
Citizencon the place where CIG tells does not promise to do what they do not do My prediction is that they will talk about traveling through multiple solar systems very soon (same topic as Citizen Con 2016 titled: 4.0 Traveling through multiple solar systems).
As it stands: Everything that will be presented about SC has no value, they are still stuck with 4.0, so nothing that we will see will be available in the near future, not even in the medium term. It's just a huge marketing campaign
Half of the stuff mentioned in the last one is already released tho.
@@SnowTerebi At least. And more care to the UI and the Starmap (which still fails to make some roads) would have more than appreciated
SQ42 is really why i backed the game in 2012. I really hope it gets a release within the next year.
N.1 rule with CIG: do not expect shit
Cant wait to hear more promises😂
I will be very upset if I don't see:
1. A roadmap for a roadmap
2. Over-promise
3. Pyro again
I expect hype. People are getting annoyed and like every year they will reset everyone's hype and wipe their annoyance
Id hope we get some kind of storage system where one can store extra ship weapon ammo and fuel onboard ships that have storage, like some infantry fighting vehicles do today when they dont need to keep the space for infantry.
And perhaps like how some fighter planes can carry extra fuel instead of missiles for longer rides.
C u at citizecon!!!!🎉
I'm not sure an extensive S42 demo can be shown - that would mean too many spoilers. All I personally want is Tony Z updating us on Quantum/StarSim, an SM section with detailed demonstration of why and how it will be made to work at scale given everything they've been accomplishing with it this year, and a preview of what's coming after Pyro.
I hope on some further announcements of gameplay loops like refining, data heist/hauling and hacking of such data as well as improved scanning with custom POI-markers created by players which they then can sell and/or repair gameplay to close the loop to mining and salvaging as well as hauling of goods.
Shipwise they still owe us the ground vehicle for base-building that can craft small outposts which was promised to get released somewhere this year at lasts CC and I expect some more middle sized ships from Consolidated Outland as so far they only have single-seater ships (Mustang i.e.) and some ground vehicles and then the Pioneer and nothing in between. As they announced last year, they use medium and larger sized ships as template for capital sized ships to speed up development. However, as they still have a backlog worth of probably 5-6 years of capital sized ships, I think we weill get some more medium-sized ships that serve a particular issue, i.e. more data-haulers (we currently only have the Herald and the MSR) and maybe some more tools to help us get our job done faster, like hover-trollys, forklifts or some mobile-deportable larger tractor beam that can lift the largest containers. Maybe we also get some information on drones.
In regards to SQ42 I expect a release announcement for Q4 2025 which might get delayed to summer 2026 while SC will get a roadmap announcement till beta, what is needed at minimum, what they also try to get in if possible and which content will be pushed for a post 1.0 releas. Maybe they talk also about other star systems, maybe release some system by the end of 2025, get in T1 of Quanta/StarSim to have a first shot of NPCs doing stuff in game.
Panel-wise we will probably have the usual ones like a lore one with a focus on some specific aspects like how we will see them first (as we probably wont get our 100 promised star system for a long time), one panel for graphic improvements (i.e. full multi-threaded Vulcan support), one dedicated to sound and sound engineering. Maybe Yogi is talking about MM and the current state and where they go next (and explain yet again why the old system didn't work with their vision). As last year there was no panel about Quanta/StarSim I expect some more updated information here as well. As more and more flora and fauna is added to the game and planet tech V5 was worked on I hope for some first in-game scenes from jungle or other more-alien like bioms. And maybe CIG will tell us what their Soulsinger thing is. I think this might be their new anti-cheat software or some improved audio-engine or VoIP-tool.
There will be alot of new stuff announced, none of the old stuff finished, and if you believe, they will release a 1.0 next year, you´re delusional
This guy has a huge copium reserve he's huffing. Wish I still had some but I'm all out
with 4.0/Pyro wrapping up, I wouldnt be surprised if they teased the next big location
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They can almost do a copy/paste of last year's topics (SQ42, 4.0, Pyro, server meshing, fire, farms, Maelstrom, bruising, etc..) because tbh, not so much changed.
Pyro playtest - again
SQ42 update - but no release or release date
A few new ships - but no fix for existing ships
A single capitalship - to keep people appy and distracted
Yeah, I am still going to Citizencon
We are almost there... just a few more millions...
Soulsinger could be one of two things: 1) Mobile companion app for S42 and SC. 2) It's the code name for the next generation console port of S42.
Why would they trademark a code name ?
SQ42, crafting and base building as big selling points on the road to 1.0. Hopefully not another game "Soulsinger" announced by Tony Z, not that I expect that whatsoever. Would have been awesome to attend in person, really considered it, but hard to justify the cost.
They will tell us that squadron 42 is yet again feature complete and go another year without releasing anything. And off course, more Pyro...another year.....
I agree (and hope) with the systems. Nix is pretty much done, and Odin (where Sq42 is based) should also be complete. I'm sorta hoping they drop another system along with Pyro and tell no one and you just gotta find it.
Thanks for the video
Nyx man, and release date for squadron. It's time,people are tired,we need some really big news,but really BIG.
My guess is we'll see a lot of really cool looking faked demos of stuff they haven't actually done any real work on and have no idea how to make work. They'll tell us that most of what they've shown us they hope to get to us within the next twelve months and then will proceed to deliver just under half of it in a shoddy tier 0 state. Just like last year.
-Star systems ...at least 1 (Terra)
-Alien races
-lootable/harvestable flora
(under-) water gameplay
I want nothing new announced. Nothing.
Just the stuff they've been promising or showing off for years to be completed and in game.
Their reputation over the quality of SQ42 (when it finally releases) means almost nothing at this point, their reputation is already well known to be 'over promise, never deliver'. Even if SQ42 is a great game, Star Citizen will still be there in the background missing features promised years ago. They can't shake that...
I'm guessing SoulSinger is either some kind of proprietary NPC AI character generator, or maybe software that manages the interactions of 'quanta' so that they resemble NPCs going on with their business in the background. Top 3 predictions of what we'll see at Citcon? Flyable Fat Fury, Hornet Mk2 variants (Ghost, Tracker), and a preview of Nyx.
i literally do not care what they show off. the only thing that matters is if they release S42, and if they release 1.0. Everything else is just marketing.
PREDECTION: Squadron release 2026
Too late,people are losing Hope on this project.They have to hurry up,It's necessary
Yeah always 2 years😅 it's like with nuclear fusion always 20 years
I'm starting to think 2026 also. Remember that GTA 6 is coming out next year and that game is going to own.
We may see a huge update on Quanta in conjunction with server meshing.
No hope and no expectations will give me only 'good' surprises. Cig lied too much last year, the year before, and the year before that, and so on.
Predictions: Underwhelming with a helping of unfulfilled promises for 2025.
i predict Soulsinger is a codename of a project and that is a SQ42 part two. We know SQ42 will have 3 games. Let see if that is the case.
Great, so the minute the first Squadron is out they will just start working on the second one and the PU will continue to get the ass end of development effort. smh
I agree. They need to sell another 10 years of star citizen to finance part II and deliver nothing of SC.
@@joebaxter6895ha! Let's wait for the actual release before we get up in arms over the second part taking up dev resources. You're skipping over the "CIG releasing a game" part
@@echo5827 I dont need to wait to "get up in arms". CIGs history tells you all you need to know about the future. And that is exactly what will happen.
@@joebaxter6895as long as the Squadron games arent bad im ok with that, pledged primarily for SQ anyways 😅
Bit early since they're gonna do the schedule soon but
They said very long first day and shorter second, so I'd think just a squadron trailer on the second day to end it off like last year
I'd be surprised to see the plans to 1.0 unless they plan to launch it next year. They'll probably mention it but I'm assuming we see 4.1-4.3 group of patches that they deliver in the next 1-1.5 years through sq42 release that set us up for 1.0. Unless 1.0 is SUPER cut back or they magically have tons of stuff ready
Jared keeps hinting at stuff at citizencon that I can't tell what he means. Something about the huge plans for distribution centers they haven't said before. Some more stuff about asteroid bases or rare components or something he didn't want to talk about. It'll be nice to hear about what's beyond pyro, they've talked about the first 5 systems and if 1.0 is getting close I wouldn't be surprised if they reveal the next 2. Nyx and Magnus or castra
Anyways I'll see you there
Im ready to get dissapointed...
My predilection is that we will see…. Chris Roberts! 😂
CIG stands for lies and milking sheeps
My wild predictions ... SQ42 release date, Base Building, Road to 1.0
I not sure what to expect in year 12 CC. I avoid the hype because the years old bugs impact me more and not much visibly changes imo.
God I wish to see my crucible in any form. I want to see reconcepts at the least.
NGL, one of the reasons i'm going to Citcon is the very very very very small chance Mark Hamill will be on stage announcing the date lol
Squadron ! I want more squadron ^^
Craziest thing I can imagine is, because they were shown at the very begining of the Star Engine video, CIG say we are getting all four star systems. . . by next citcon :o
Ofc they will 'say' that, and can even depend on a potential con delay lol
Those weren't systems in the trailer it was just a single star and some gas clouds
@@echo5827it was four stars. It even zooms past the Stanton star to confirm their relative size.
But tbh I didnt notice it either until a youtuber pointed it out!
My guess is that soulsinger is the marketable name they are giving to server meshing tech and replication layer tech. So they can package and sell this to other companies for some extra money.
I just want them to show new planet tech.
Whenever I play FreeFly, the planets are just uninteresting. From space the planets look great, but on the surface it is not.
I’m a player that loves to explore in a random direction and find interesting landscapes, but with the current planet tech I just don’t bother. The current planets don’t invite me to explore because the planets seem boring in design.
Hopefully someday they reach the level of diverse landscapes we see IRL and other games, and maybe planet v5 tech will make a good step into that direction.
I want to see progress on building interiors, alien NPCs, and a medical variant of the C2
I hope Soulsinger is a mod inside Starcitizen.
I believe CIG is doing massive crunch time right. They want to close out citizen con with a "and 4.0 is playable right now! (on ptu)".
Not sure if they are able to do it.
I'm gonna be bold here prior to watching this video.
Citcon will include the release of Sq42. Not a release date, a release
Lawl
PREDICTION for 2025: SC development funding 1billion before GTA 6 release, squadron 42 release around Jun
A bunch of bullshit is all your gonna hear
base building will be only nice pictures, until we have it in game means nothing
date for S42 will probably be delayed ,,next year,,
1.0 seems interesting, but has one issue ,,WHEN?,,
hype is big, but they always disappointed me. This year I expect nothing then promises for next 10 years.
I just hope for news on Sq42 with a fix reals date, like they say we could lunch it by dezmber but we want a 99% bug free game!
I dont give a Shit anymore tbh.
I want to hear the latest from Tony Z. That's the most important thing to me.
the best thing we could hear is that he left. maybe now they will finish the game.
does someone already said that there is, in roadmap, so many unananced vihicles... atls ready to go... DRONES will be on citcon... medical-rescue, repair, salvage-cut, rearm-tow... thats why enginering, new mfds.. and 5% that some science will come after radar and exploration... 15% that some economy will step in after base building, market, refining and crafting... and this is just to hype you up and to bring that we deserved
The Xbox SX at full throttle with upscaling and optimization where SQ42 should run fine at 30 fps.
This is the first citcon I'm going to (being UK, the third I could technically have gone to) and I really think this is the big one. I actually only bought my ticket yesterday but I'm super hype.
2023 nobody knew what to expect after covid and it really 'restarted' the project mentally I think for a lot of people. But this definitely feels like the Sq42 one, the one they wanted to do in 2016. A big Citcon with a lot of potentially crazy reveals, but mostly stuff that's tangible and 'close to shipping' with that big focus on a Sq42 release date, a roadmap to 1.0, and maybe a surprise 4.0 PTU.
I think Sq42 will be somewhen next year and 1.0 will be a Citcon thing, but if we're lucky, this will be the last of the 'Citizencon for the citizens' and the start of the one where we really get to be proud of the game.
I only hope to see ray tracing, vulkan, multithreading and Linux mentioned!
I dont want any promises but as much things released at citcon as possible and after it. They can't keep their timelines at all, fire is still not in game...
2 new star systems
New sub model with ingame advantages similar to ESO
SQ 42 demo
I don't think Star Citizen or SQ42 is even feasible on current gen consoles, simply due to memory limitations. The Xbox is simply out of the question, since no game can be released only on the Series X and the Series S has only 8 GBs of memory. But even if we would only consider the Series X and PS5 (or Pro), they only have around 14GBs of unified memory. Star Citizen has a footprint of ~ 20-35 GBs of memory with GPU and System memory combined. If the next generation of consoles go for 32 GBs of unified memory, porting the game could be feasible.
no pyro news i hope but another solar system like nyx or magnus would be welcome!
i think the strait to flyable will be the fat furry teased last year
I mean that ship is in the "coming out in the next 12 month" clip, so it won't be any surprise.
The IAE is still the larger ship sales event and there will definitely be a new starter (possible Crusader), and maybe a few more. And new concepts, too.
Wondering if roads will be part of a planet tech v5 panel
And maybe mark Hamill will be there with Henry Cavill