Why Did Nintendo REJECT Mario & Luigi Partners in Time? The REAL Reasons
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 มี.ค. 2018
- Why did Mario & Luigi Partners in Time not get a remake but Bowser's Inside Story did get a remake announced in the new Nintendo Direct? This is a very weird situation with Nintendo rejecting a game for a remake and skipping past it entirely but in this video I try to uncover the real reason why Nintendo made this decision.
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Siiroth Ah, I see. I see now. Yes, I do.
Siiroth My theory:fawfull return
Siiroth i subbed sub to meh too
You should do a video, why the Luigi's Mansion Remake is coming for the 3DS and not for the Switch!
ZeldaGrossmeister because the 2 is in 3ds
partners in time was my favorite M&L game.....i'm very salty now
I agree, i LOVE mario and luigi partners in time
Hey Peeps *>has Mario and Luigi bowsers inside story as his profile picure*
Rainbowcat139 OMG UR MY NEW SEMPAI
I really liked Partners in time and I don't really understand why so many people hate it
It was my favorite as well, really disappointed they just skipped it
You completely ignored the fact that Partners in Time and Bowser’s Inside Story were released 5 years apart from each other. PiT came out when the DS was still new, whereas BiS came out when MANY people had a DS and the DSi was released.
Also, that math at the beginning is way off. BiS didn’t sell 4x as much. It’s more around 2.5x.
So true omg
Regardless BiS sold more copies LOL
M&L BIS sold 3.77 millions copies, It's safe to say that it sold about 4 million.
M&L games were becoming more popular
by each year
Partners in Time is really underrated, i really loved the game and the story. It’s flawless
For real most people who hate on it just found it hard
@@lucid_ i remember when i played it at first i didnt understand what i ws supposed to do but i didnt stop trying and the more i learned the better i got but sadly i never defeated the final boss which sucks but i feel like if i get the game again ill be ready cause it been a long time n all
I agree for the most part, I don’t like Shrowser, it’s the biggest flaw with the game, but other than that I agree.
I wouldn't exactly call it flawless, but it definitely is underrated.
No it has flaws but it’s still amazing!
People didn't like partners in time because it is widely known as the most difficult m&l game. I see it as a new and challenging way to play a fun game.
Yeah if they would put easy mode it will be the favorite is game of all time
Welll.... an hour ago I beat it!
How long did you beat it
Is it a year
Cuz I am on Yoshi's Island
Now the shroob cameo is disrespectful, hollow, and mocking us
the windy sage what does that mean
Glitchy it now feels like that cameo is mocking us about a reality that didn't happen
That is a point, what are they going to do with that “secret boss” fight?
Nice Guy
They can't really do it this time round.
In the original, I'm pretty sure that secret fight gave you a new bros attack.
It wasn't a cosmetic difference like Geno
Yes, but the shroob battle is less subtle than a mini game that not everyone will even play. While you might claim that the shroob battle was optional, it is more likely that someone is going to go looking for the bros attack and notice something is different.
how could partners in time be the worst?
Best final boss music
Best Boss music
is actually really dark which makes the story more interesting
Theres just something indescribable about PIT that also makes it my favorite
and i almost forgot the "POH PAH" sounds with green shells
The special attack system was ass tho they really should have brought back bros attacks
Bis had the best final boss music
Because the babies were annoying as fuck
To be honest, I liked Bowser’s Inside Story more than Partners in Time. But what’s also unique with Partners in Time is the final bosses were 2 Princesses Shroobs, those mushroom alien creatures, instead of Bowser, which makes it also interesting. Even the minions of the Shroob were also unique too. But I do like Partners in Time as well. And yeah, I wish Nintendo made Partners in Time remake for 3ds tho.
I do think the final boss music in Partners in time was good but I like Bowser Inside story final boss music a whole lot more
Best boss music also goes to Dream team for me.
On the bright side, Partners in time has the gritzy desert theme because I really like that one.
Partners in time is the best M&L game i played, its dark atmosphere and its music are so good tbh everytime i played i feel alone and playing it for the first time it can actually to be "scary" here isnt some random villain who wants to rule the world or something, its literally aliens wanting to "kill" everyone alive and infect all the world, and it had the best plot twists in the entire series
I love Partners in Time though...
MarioGMan25 same 👍
MarioGMan25 same
Same
same. i have Bit but i tbh pit is just wow my fav imo..
We all do
cool, one of my favorite games ever made is considered shit
Ikr😔🤚
I'm still crying
silentgamerz yeah :(
not to us bro
Partners in time is actually my favorite one... but this is surely linked to the fact it was my first Mario & Luigi game.
Nouche it was my second and favorite so that might not affect it as much as you would think
@I-Got-U-Fam : I do not understand.
Nouche I was just saying that the reason PIT was your favorite is probably not because it was your first one
My favorite is dream team but i honestly really want to play a remake of PIT
My fav is superstar saga and I like PiT
The only two I played were partners in Time and inside story and I honestly like partners better
same
that was my situation when I was a kid I got both games but I loved partners in time better
same same. Yes BiS has more content, minigames etc, but being the only two I played, it felt so "plastic", too colorful and light. PiT makes me feel immersed everytime because "uh oh this is serious business"
Siiroth: They skipped PIT because of sales
Me: The BIS Remake sold 20,000 copies, bruh.
A total of 4.5 million copies he said.
@@garbagechannelngl the original did the remake sold like crap
It sold 20000 copies for two crucial reasons:
1. It was released in the 3ds after its lifespan had already ended.
In fact, it was the second-to-last game to be released on the 3ds (the last being Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn which sold about the same amount).
2. You could already play it on the 3ds if you bought the original.
If they made it for the Switch, it would've probably sold at the very least a million copies.
So, the ones who did buy it:
1. Still had a 3DS and cared about it
2. Were big M&L fans but for some reason they didn't buy the original BIS
Those are the 20000 people who bought it.
Imagine how partners in time remake would sell
So, you really need 8 MINUTES to say over and overy again:
1) Partners in time didn't sell very well
2) Most fans agree Partners in time it's not the best of the saga
Couldn't that be said in.... mmmh.... 30 seconds, maybe?
Federico Gastón López Silvera That easily could've been a reddit post that one can read in that amount of time
So fucking condescending.
Can't wait for the Dream Team remake, that game has needed to be on 3DS for too long,
Let's Play?! Hold the fuck up
Wait what
Sarcasm dude
Dark Mario Dream Team 3DS remake would be Amazing, but Paper Jam for the 3DS would be best
Yeah dude
Partners in time is actualy my favorite game of all time
The 16 bit guys I’m with you on that one
Lol
me toooooooooooooooo
Honestly, PiT is not only my favorite M&L game, it's also my favorite game of all time.
There is one other, but fairly small reason that I think is *part* of the reason they remade the 3rd game.
In Superstar Saga's remake, at the end of the Minion story, there are sprites for Fawful's mechs, which appeared in the 3rd game, so they already have material to work with for the 3rd game.
Inside Story has a secret boss where you face the Shroobs. They would have to make these in-game sprites, and that would give them material to work with, should they decide to remake the 2nd game.
and so when they will have remade the shroob battle they will have material to work with in PiT remake, makes sense
Andrew Hopson it was weird and cool seeing the mechawfuls in bowsers minion
A few sprites are the reason they could make this remake? ...MAKES SENSE?!
Andrew Hopson but if my memory is correct, Fawful is in PiT. So if they do a remake of that after this, it’d cause a lot of confusion to newer players should they do that
NintenFizz He was in it but not as himself really, the person playing knew it was him because of that amazing smile but he was disguised in a cloak and worked as a badge shop owner.
Really I always considered partners in time as the best
YAS
I disagree, it is the second best in my opinion, but if it was remade, then it might be the best. However, they may make a remake as a surprise. I hope so.
It's my favourite
I agree with this guy
How old were you when you first got PiT?
Partners in time was one of my favourites! I loved it as a kid and just replayed it recently and it's still a fantastic experience. Do people really say it's a bad game? I'm kinda shook
ima be on my deathbed and see
[Mario and Luigi: Partners in time Remake!]
And I'm finna just say
"nice"
*dies*
@Duplizapper Mario And luigi: partners in time
Real life edition
@@Commander-peepers last year we started to live toad town irl
Personally, I liked partners in time more than bowsers inside story. I think I liked it more because I played it first.
Erick Loreto-cortez me to
Lmao, nostalgia
Erick Loreto-cortez and when you die from a Boss or a tough enemy I like starting at peaches castles and beating the enemy again the level progress is still their so when you defeating the enemy again your getting stronger so the too much heath problem really doesn't matter to me it a rpg I just think it a problem because people do the enemy's underleveled
me too
Me too. My favorite part of PiT is the music.
Honestly, quality is a terrible excuse. Even most fans who see PiT as a weaker entry still enjoy the game at least a bit because they enjoy the series and its gameplay. It's not like it's Sticker Star and doesn't even look/feel like the original. But here's the thing - if a game does has flaws, that should make it even a more logical choice to remake it, not ignore it. This is because when something is flawed, there is more things to improve on, which is kind of the purpose of remaking games to begin with. Why not improve the quality of the series at large by fixing a weaker entry? With PiT, they could actually make the game feel different by implementing a SP system, better control scheme for the babies, etc. The BiS remake will likely feel almost just a graphical upgrade and that's it.
To be honest, I preferred PiT over BiS, despite its flaws. I preferred the plot and it felt more serious / intense. Kinda disappointed that they're ignoring it's existence when there was lots of potential here to make it even better.
HDRookie they could doside quests. In peaches castle PIT there is a toad that says it went to hollyjolly a saw a GIANT MONSTER.
HDRookie The monster isn’t present in the game though maybe a lost boss fight and the toad was forgot to be cut but they could add a boss fight
You know it's bad in the world when even the lesser preferred games don't get remakes, video games are getting as bad as Hollywood...
I like it the second most, a remake could fix the flaws. The purpose of remakes is to improve a game that is already good. I see the competition though between it and one of the best games of all time though.
Well if you remember Chuggaaconroy's complaint about one area of the game: Hollijolli Village and it's surrounding area. He makes a fair point.
After the tutorial part in that game, if you ever go back to it throughout the rest of the adventure. There is virtually NOTHING there, it wasn't used for anything else like a secret boss or boss rush mode or anything.
A remake could make very well use of that area for practically anything.
partners in time was a great freaking game
it was the game that introduced me to the series
and I simply dont understand the flak its been getting
Im actually really sad about this... because it's one of my Favorite from the''Mario and Luigi'' Series.
It just had this atmosphere and story... everything beatiful about it...!
Rand0m 55 fuck I accidentally hit my ball sack and I can’t fucking sleep
Never mind the Mario & Luigi series, what about the remake of Super Princess Peach? That game was the motherfucking bomb back in the day!
NintendoTV64 Probably get a lot of feminists sniveling about the emotions thing and all the PMS jokes that came from it
Be cool if they did make another game for her though!
Mysterious K this makes no sense, what feminist wouldn't want a female lead character?
also this guy fucking gets it that game was stellar
oh boy SPP is underrated as heck, I wish they would have remade it
That and Yoshi’s Island remade a third time
What the heck. Partners in Time is like one of the best DS games with Pkmn Mystery Dungeon.
William Carlos Funny.
William Carlos nah
William Carlos Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is pretty fun
William Carlos
Probably in your opinion, but it's not the case. Still, an amazing game
@@mechacode8527 Top 51 best sold game on the DS, just so you know that it's a fact and not an opinion. (I know i'm 10 month late but let that be a lesson to you all who scream OPINION when they don't like something.)
I just hope that, one day, we'll get a remake of partners in time. I always found that game to be most enjoyable from the series.
I liked bowsers inside story and all BUT LETS ALL PRAY IT DOESN’T HAVE THAT CARROT WIGGLER MINIGAME. It hurts me every time in try it :/
RobloxKid Nenahlo omg I fucking hate that carrot wiggled mini game, it took me about 20 minutes to complete that fucking minigame.
Chances are, yes, since it is a "remake" after all.
RobloxKid Nenahlo The carrot minigame isn't that bad compared to the dreaded pollen minigame
TheNintendoNerd let hope that Nintendo put a “skip this mini-game?” on the game.
Super WolfieStar I doubt it, but that would be awesome
They might be ignoring Partners in Time because it completely debunks their reason for excluding new characters in Paper Jam: "you can't have two of all the main characters AND new characters"
(I'm kidding but seriously PIT did prove that they could've done more with Paper Jam but made it basic anyway. I'm hoping they do something with PIT in the coming period leading to the BIS remake)
fawfulthegreat64 my theory
Superstar saga: the villain is fawful
Bowser inside story:the villain is fawful
The next new mario & luigi game:the villain is fawful
fire creeper but in Superstar saga the real Mastermind is cackletta and in bis Is the dark star
supersuato123 yes in this game not *the* main antagonist
but he is one of the main antagonist
Wait 2 of everyone and then new characters? What do you mean? I mean I kinda understand but...
Paper jam in my opinion is the biggest missed opportunity in videogames.
The hate on Partners in time is exaggerated. It' was a good and funnny game imo. May be better than or second to only bowser's inside story. But paper jam bros was the real garbage
Dezzebot wahe I agree. Also, with Bowsers Inside Story, they have more resources for it.
Dream Team was mediocre
03bgood hadn't played that one. But I can say Partners in time was fun y and innovative in including the small bros. The thing i can understand is that people hated the backtracking. But I don't agree with it being bad. Paper jam bros is the worst from the ones I played. MAario &Lugio has gone downhill like paper mario but ironically the reason paper mario went down hill is because Nintendo wanted to give the real rpg-style of paper mario (n64 and Gamecube ) to Mario&Luigi but that didn't work out. Now they have 2 mediocre game series
The only reason you like PiT is because you can compare it to Paper Jam. You need to play real games like Super Mario RPG for the SNES to realize that Nintendo used to be creative when handling their IP.
Well, I don't... Look, Partners in Time is REALLY slow. And in the new engine, it will be VERY short.
Partners in time is my favourite Mario & Luigi game T.T
Paper Jam and Dream Team Bros are clearly worser than partners in time.
*W O R S E R* The grammatically correct phrase would be worse.
Dream Team was awesome though.
DREAM TEAM IS THE BEST WITH PIT
No, no, no you've got it all wrong. Dream Team was fantastic, I loved that game. However Paper Jam isn't as fun and I dropped it pretty quick, it seems that anything Paper Mario touches just sucks anymore.
And Paper Mario TTYD was my absolute favorite of that series. Such a shame.
Dream Team was awesome. Tf you talkin about. Paper Jam was.....bleh.
I honestly think partners in time was a way better game than bowsers inside story. The ending or partners in time made me cry.
Leaf soundtrack is good in BIS
@@devilsaur yeah but most soundtracks arnt that good but partners in time music is god tier it perfectly capture the area that it resemble best example is toad town and vim factory
@@user-bb2op9he1x Really, I heard PIT did not have that much great OST Usually BIS and/or DT had the best.
2:14
Partners in time : 1.7 M
Bowsers inside story : 4.5 M
“4 times the amount of units “:
1.7 X 4 = 6.8 ( nowhere near 4.5 Million units)
1.7 X 2 = 3.4
1.7 X 3 = 5.1
1.7 X 2.5 = 4.25
So you should have said “ all most 2 and a half more units because 4 TIMES MORE is a long shot . Do you math boii !!!
lol this is just a joke
well...
when someone says "almost" they mean that it's not quite there, so I think 3x would be more accurate.
Saif Al Hammadi hi
Wait, Bowser’s Inside Story sold 2.5 more units? Wow! That’s amazing! Those 2.5 units really made a difference, I see.
NathanGuiaYT A Bowser's Inside Story unit is a Bowser Inside Story unit. You can't say it's only a half.
Oh god, how did TJ memes get involved!?
Honestly, I would have bought the Partners in Time remake since I have never played it, but I already own Bowsers Inside Story, and so do so many other people. I’m not going to buy it just for Bowser Juniors Journey and weird graphics in my opinion. I prefer the old graphics for Mario and Luigi games, and its not like they change too much of the main game either. Even so, Mario and Luigi Partners in Time is actually pretty good according to multiple friends, it was probably just over shadowed by Bowsers Inside Story and thats why it wasn’t very popular. I feel like Nintendo has been getting a little too money hungry with all these remakes recently and we are all ignoring it because of the Smash Switch hype. Not only do I feel like they should be putting these Mario and Luigi remakes on the Switch, which would, pretty obviously, get more sales, they should also be putting the Luigi’s Mansion remake on the Switch, since they actually have to downgrade the graphics to put it on the 3DS. Like, if your gonna put a Captain Toad remake on both the 3DS and the Switch, then do it with the other games too! They would be rich!
Well, BIS wouldn't work for the swith AT ALL in my opinion. The original game had 2 screens. The top mainly for Bowser (when in his body) and the bottom for M&L (")
I feel like it would take something away to have it on one screen only
NickG.19 and luigi mansion is coming to switch yeah no a remake now a original game
Partners in time is my favourite mario rpg because of the uniqueness it has in the story and it has a lot of variety like the envoirements and the enemies. I think this game actually was one of the most interesting ones because it is not at all like the other games in the series. This game feels more serious and intense, and the feeling of the mushroom kingdom being invaded by aliens is a really different and cool idea. These are my thoughts.
It’s a real shame, because Partners in Time was a fantastic game. PiT was absolutely integral to my childhood, and I’d love to see it completely remastered. The storyline was surprisingly incredible, the villains were intimidating, the score was unbeatable, and the potential for a sidequest story is absolutely there. It’s a real shame.
I think probably because in Partner's in Time it was weird to control 4 character at the same time, and you would have to back track often to control the baby bros and the adult bros, when look at both screens on the DS. I saw some people say that the boss battles were too easy, there were no sidequests, the story is weak, and the game is too linear. Me personally I can see where they are coming from but I still like the game for what it is. If Nintendo would've remake Parnters in Time and fixed all of its issues it had then maybe it would be a great remake but its a shame they went for Bowser's Inside Story, don't get me wrong that game is also amazing, but I was so shocked and disappointed that Partner's in Time was skipped for a remake.
francisjairam
D: but still, I want it
How about if they added a sidestory called Princess Peach's Quest? It'll be the 1st Mario & Luigi game where you play as Princess Peach.
they could just make a new game with princess peach mostly a sequel to super princess peach on the ds
Maybe because it was too dark? I mean, it has sucking the vim out of toads, an alien species bent on destruction, and destroyed toad towns.
but that's what made it good it showed that it wasn't looking around with these enemies and how your future was on the line but not so seriously so you can enjoy the fun and silly moments
The first and only Mario & Luigi game I ever played was Bowser's Inside Story and I liked it a lot
So I guess everyone did get stuck at that part :O
nope and my first game was partners in time my brother had it and I played without him knowing it but at that time I was but a little 4 year old or more child that didn't know how to speak english so I didn't get far into the game then my brotther sold the game my heart was broken and my first mario and luigi game that I played until the finally was bowser's inside story and yet it is not my favourite still freeckin waiting for the remake nintendo
Me too
It is the best in the series, one of the best games of all time. But even the worst game (Paper Jam) is still great.
Same
I got stuck in that boss battle where that stupid pig gets ice powers and kills me in one hit.
Partners in time is my favourite and when I heard about this I was upset
Why nintendo...
Partners im time was my favourite...
Because superstar saga and bowser inside story sold the most copies. Partners in time sold the least. Sadly these remakes are decided on sales. I agree that partners in time was very good tough. It may be up there with bowser inside story and superstar saga
Looks like Nintendo made a bad idea because the 2 remakes sold like ass
(Probably because it was on the dying 3DS)
I like Partners in Time a lot better than BIS.
But I get why this happened. Go with what's popular.
(I could rant about why I think BIS is overrated, but I'll only go there if asked.)
Runningon Cylinders do it
frederp fakbeard Well, you asked for it. I'm not sure whether you think that BIS is the best in the series or think it's as hit-and-miss as I do, but I'll at least do my best to convince you why I found PIT and SS to be more enjoyable, so much to the point where BIS is the game that convinced me not to even bother with DT & PJ. If those games are good, then I don't even know, but if they've fixed any issues I've had with BIS, then I'm all for hearing about it. All right, no more beating around the bush, it's SHOWTIME!
1. Plot: SS had a pretty unique idea to explore a new kingdom and fight a witch to get Peach's voice back which allowed for simple funny adventures. It laid the foundation of the series strongly. PIT got even more ambitious by involving time travel and featured a surprisingly dark tale of alien invasion. The babies added some much needed levity with their cuteness. I can understand people's complaint of how linear PIT is, but at least it's focused and got a lot out of its areas as you proceed through them. The Toadbert's drawing stylus rub plot twist was one I hadn't seen coming till then, completely changing my perception of the Cobalt Star and adding another layer to the plot effectively. BIS is where things get interesting because I think it throws a lot of ideas at the wall, and only some manage to stick. The first thing we're introduced to in BIS, presumably the CENTRAL conflict is the Blorbs. They're mostly an afterthought though in execution due to how severely Bowser hijacks the plot with his own self-serving motives. We don't even get the mcguffin of Star Cures (played out like Beanstar Pieces) until the second half of the game, and even then it's mostly to break the barriers to Peach's Castle. POOR BLORBED TOADS! That was so useless in hindsight and not in any way funny. Bowser vores the Bros. Kirby-style, and a lot of what we do is fight a brilliant but reused foe because how dare he take over other people's castles! Fawful is one of my favorite aspects of BIS, but the way he convinces Bowser's Army to sell out to him destroyed my perception of Bowser as at the very least a good ruler of loyal subjects. Count Bleck had Nastasia to brainwash the Koopa Troop, but the majority of BIS enemies weren't brainwashed, so I think they should've been mostly opposing Fawful. (I seriously felt like everybody just hated Bowser more than ever which isn't very fun considering we're finally getting to play from his perspective.) This whole game felt a lot more mean spirited than its predecessors, and one more thing I kinda disliked was that its areas didn't feel very interesting to me besides the castle areas and some of the 2D "Inside Story" dungeons. It plodded the game out when these overworld sections were reused for minimal story progression (such as the Sockop part.) Dark Star was an okay final threat, but it almost felt like Fawful should've prepared for it better, not been sidelined in wake of the power he sought in my opinion. Dark Star was more parasitic than symbiotic when it did join with Fawful for the final boss fight, but I kinda felt bad for him for that reason. (Wasn't he already thwarted? What could he have possibly gained from winning that?)
2. Characters: You don't spend a lot of time with the minor characters of SS or PIT besides E. Gadd, Peasley, Stuffwell, Toadsworth(s), and Queen Bean/Lady Lima, but somehow nearly everybody managed to get some funny lines or memorable moments. The babies were fantastic additions to the party, and cameo bosses like Petey and Birdo were a fun surprise. Popple and Fawful were hilarious, and I love those guys. BIS had some really dull extras like the Broque Monsieur (he's French HAR-DEE-HAR-HAR!), The Green Shy Guy, Hat Goomba, and Paratroopa trio, Globins (how are these things funny?), Chakron (holy heck you're boring), and even Midbus who is okay at best at being Fawful's henchman. The only extra I liked was Dr. Toadley for his egotistical personality and exaggerated expressions. He felt like he could've fit in with the extras of games 1 & 2. STARLOW/CHIPPY is a character I absolutely HATED having to put up with. In other Mario RPG games I usually love the spunky female companions (such as Goombella) which would've been a much better way of portraying this Starlow (who is a redone model of an ENEMY from PIT), but instead she comes off as more of a condesceding entitled control-freak BRAT without much extremely needed power to back up that kind of status she'd been given. If Starlow had made bigger positive contributions, then I might've tolerated her annoyance as a tutorial character, but I really just wish she wasn't in the game in the first place (or the next two games. I hear she's less awful in them, but BIS turned me away from her soooooo fast.) Fawful himself was once again my favorite part of BIS. He's so funny in a very unique and dorky yet credible way, and he's pretty clever too. (Too bad they freaking killed him off!)
3. Gameplay Stuff: Not too much to complain about here tbh, but I'll say the Special Move mechanics were pretty stupid in BIS. They pretty much scale up slowly in power as you progress, and there's a lot of them, some of which odd to get used to right before a major encounter. SS had fewer moves which got pretty cool with ADVANCE techniques. PIT had more conventional items which were always useful no matter where in the game you were, and I loved that part. It was so nice considering PIT bosses had a lot of health, so managing items rather than SP kept the pace pretty nicely. BIS is just USE THIS MOVE BECAUSE IT'S THE NEWEST AND BEST NOW! Also BADGES, what the heck happened to badges in BIS? They're a silly little bar which restores a slim amount of HP when full and feel way too tacked on for their own good. This bar would've been much better served for Special Bro. Moves (Like Star Power in Paper Mario 1 & 2.) The 2D sections feel pretty unfair for trying to evade some enemies, and making Bowser chug water or gnaw at Icy Midbus is disturbing for how long it goes on. The worlds other than the castles are forgettable (and besides perhaps Plaque Beach, the only one with its own toothy gimmick and catchy music.) BIGGEST PROBLEM YET!!!! Repeated Minigame sequences! These are when you power-up Bowser as the Bros. to do some essentially QTE or kick off a Giant Battle or whatever else they feel like trapping the Bros. in a room multiple times to do for Bowser. (All of these have Tutorials too, many of which unskippable.) (Freaking Jigsaw Puzzles!? Why is this even here!?) And the Blowy Fawful Express makes you blow, and that really blows so hard it blows my mind!
4. Bosses: This is similar to my character problem, but BIS has the most BORING boss ideas yet for the series. One of the POSITIVE ones is LITERAL GARBAGE! Many are just random bugs, WAIT that stupid blue one is a Sage the heck!? Wiggler has no new gimmick. Blooper Statue is bland. Random Germs are ehhh. MINECRAFT Mario and Luigi was another GOOD one! Giant Fights were ehhh in hindsight (Did we really need FOUR of them, minigame and all?) None of these guys I actually liked fighting all that much besides Dark Fawful, one of the fairest and most interesting bosses in the game.
5. Personal Bias: I just didn't like BIS as much as SS and PIT. There you have it! :)
I prefer SS, BIT, PIT in that order. The reason Nintendo killed off Fawful is because the trilogy ended. The villain/trader was in all 3 games, and ended up as very powerful person. I felt as though the Dark Star was an add on to Dark Fawful, making him more powerful.
I agree with you that the Blorbs felt like an after thought, like the development team needed something to kick start the adventure. It feels like the went "We completed the entire game except the beginning, we need something to start the adventure."
The Star Cure didn't feel like a good mcguffin, like the Beanstar did. You stumble upon each peace and BAM! You are in act 3 (Act 1: Everything before Star Cure search, Act 2 Star Cure Search, Act 3: Peach's Castle.
Fawful took over the minion through hypnosis or the gas he uses in SS, I thought that was clear enough.
I am going to address something myself that you didn't mention. The Wiggler Carrot Minigame: WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT.
Starlow is a bratty bi-otch, she does almost nothing, I would love to see that fixed.
I like the SP/BP system they use, I despise with a passion the item system for PIT. Bowser was already a total goofball, that is why in Dream Team they make him the TRUE Final villain, not a copy or being possessed, but someone who betrayed the Nightmare King, it is a good plot twist like the one PIT.
If you like the two new crying tiny ones than I would imagine you enjoyed controlling Bowser better or to the same degree. I would love to see Nintendo spice up the environments that the Bros. and Bowser go through.
PIT bosses were just damage sponges, the name of the game was copy flower and that is pretty boring so I don't understand why you are complaining about the Special Attacks, you can also PRACTICE these special attacks, there is an option in the menu to. There is 9 Special attacks for the Bros. and 6 for Bowser, that isn't a lot to "manage." PIT had 10 bros items that is only 3 more. Don't bullshit me with that is "a lot." The only reason you had to "manage items was because the Bosses where damage sponges which seems pretty lazy to me. All you need was a basket load of copy flowers and mix flowers.
In my opinion BIT has the same amount of problems as PIT I want them both to have a remake.
Aurora Borealis I agree with many of the points you brought up. And yeah, I did enjoy playing through the game as Bowser. I'll admit my gripe on Special Moves was definitely my weakest. I still liked the PIT Items because they were simple so learning how to use all four buttons to fight/dodge wasn't too hard. (Bosses only felt like "damage sponges" in PIT after the Bowser(s) of Thwomp Volcano, go figure it's only after this mid-late game point that you can even get the Copy/Mix Flowers. Prior to this we've got Trampolines, Cannonballers, Flowers, and Pocket Chomp.) I'll also admit I could've practiced the BIS Special Moves more. (For Bowser once you get Broggy Bonker that's all you need for the rest of the game.)
I didn't see a lot of the hypnosis effects on Fawful's part. (Swirly Glasses don't actually mean hypnosis.)
CARROT: I didn't think that was nearly as bad as the Fawful Express's forced mic. I've played PvZ, so tapping the screen quickly is easy for me, and they even give you a CLEAR ALL/CLEAR SOME goodie in some of the chunks, so if I was lucky enough to get that, then it'd be over even faster. PLUS you only were required to do it once, so it was much easier for me to forget about.
I agree with the point about copy flowers, but they come into the game sooner than the Broggy Attack. Also the Broggy Attack is optional, however it is the best Bowser Attack and it can be hard to get if you are bad at button mashing. I couldn't get past the Chakron part because I sucked nuts at button mashing. I wan't Nintendo to keep some of the button mashing in, but not all of, and the Carrot game need to be fixed.
I thought the game implied that Fawful used some substance or hypnosis to get the minions to work for him. They could fix that up in the remastered BIS. The forced mic isn't too bad, at least for me. For those with bad mics they were screwed. Once again, another thing to fix. I also played PvZ on DS, it doesn't require as much tapping as the Carrot Minigame.
Mario Luigi bowser inside story was truly impeccable...
I loved it...
I'm pretty sure I completed it 5 times or more
I remember trying to complete it quickly, I managed to get to Midbus boss fight (first fight in the castle) in 1 day
Phoenix Mario I could never beat the final boss I my ds lite hinge broke because of mashing the buttons so hard
SuperSmashMaster43 when I was little I had trouble inhaling fawful when he got out of dark bowser and tried to get back in.
When I did, I screamed so high because I finally inhaled him.
But then after that it was easy and yes, I did play it more than once
Phoenix Mario yeah same that's the part I had trouble on. Still never beat the final boss lol.
Needs more Fawful
SuperSmashMaster43 what is the thing that made it so hard to finish up the greatest battle in the game?
Nintendo thought 4 buttons were too much and partners in time used them
and they thought that remaking the most sold game would be a succes but it’s not since most people already have the original
they should’ve remade partners in time to show us that it deserves get a second chance
PiT is crucial to the series, considering that the Mario and Luigi we play as in BiS, are baby Mario and baby Luigi and the adult Mario and Luigi we use is probably the SS Mario and Luigi. I’m ok if they don’t make a remake of PiT but they can’t take away parts that were Giving parts of the timeline.
Here’s a little theory:
What if the M&L we see in the remakes were the Babies from PIT all grown up. And since the Shroobs were defeated, PIT didn’t happen in the “Remake Timeline”.
that would not make sense. the older mario bros from pit are the babies grown up
Umm the Mario & Luigi from Inside Story already were the babies from Partners in Time, it's said in the dialogue before the secret Shroob boss fight.
Real_SuperPig Yeah But that’s in the “Original Timeline” in the “Remake Timeline” The shroobs were already defeated thus the adventure didn’t happen.
JustLuke That was just Luigi’s memory. In PIT memory can be “Edited” sort of. Remember when E. Gadd had that water idea.
Manipulated is what I meant to say.
I think Nintendo didn't forget about Partners In Time and they will revisit it in the future but they decided to go right with Bowser's Inside Story first since it's the fan favorite of the series. Also think about this. 2 of 3 games are getting the Dream Team/Paper Jam treatment. Once Bowser's Inside Story remake is released all that remains is Partners In Time. I can sort of see that being remade as well just for the sake of a complete remake library. They just prioritized Superstar Saga and Bowser's Inside Story first because those are fan favorites.
ZeldaKing64 i think they not make partner in time because he prepare the return of a big antagonist
@@firecreeper2249 Cackletta?
Hero of Legend No the shroobs.The Shroobs will return.
Given it seen 4 years... I kinda seriously doubt that
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I think that BiS is the only M&L game that is superior to PiT. It is my opinion that the series got successively better with each new entry until it peaked at BiS. After that, DT was slightly inferior and PJ was very much inferior to all four of the previous entries.
While it is a close contender with BiS, I think that PiT had the most interesting storyline, and that was largely because the writers dared to make the game darker. PiT has a lot more dark elements than an average Mario game, with Toads having their life force drained, everyone being turned into mushrooms, the Shroobs attempting to LITERALLY EXECUTE Princess Peach and... just EVERYTHING about the Elder Princess Shroob. BiS HAS dark elements as well, but I don't think it stands up to how far PiT was willing to go without getting ridiculous. The dark atmosphere of PiT wasn't matched [in my opinion] until DT, which had some truly frightening moments. While I certainly never consider 'darkness' to be the main attraction of a Mario game, PiT stands out from the other games in my mind because of its willingness to have some.
Another argument I've heard about PiT is that it isn't nearly as funny as other entries in the series. While it is definitely more serious than any of the others, it is not devoid of humor by any means. It doesn't, however, hold a candle to BiS's truly genius writing. I'm not really sure it's fair to compare PiT's humor to BiS's since I would say BiS is the funniest video game I've ever played that wasn't made for the sole intention of being funny [and I'm sure most fans would agree with me].
Gameplay-wise, BiS is also superior to PiT if you ask me. The switching between the bros. and Bowser is handled so smoothly, it almost makes you feel like you get two games in one. PiT unfortunately can't match that. End result, when it really comes down to it, I have to admit that PiT is not as good as BiS.
BUT.
BUT. BUT. BUT. BUT. BUT.
PiT is NOT a bad game. It is an extremely good game. It is not as good as BiS, but next to BiS, just about anything pales in comparison. PiT is an engaging experience with an interesting storyline, decent writing, a great soundtrack, and perfectly solid gameplay that [in my opinion] improves upon the already excellent formula SS set before it. I'm afraid I do not understand why so many people dislike this game.
I love the Mario and Luigi series more than almost any other video game line; it had a major impact on my life as an adolescent and boosted me into an interest in video game writing that has lasted to this day. I'd honestly buy a remake of either PiT or BiS without asking any questions. However, the fact that Nintendo is probably never going to remake PiT doesn't bother me. PiT is an excellent game in its own right and people who own a 3DS can still play it [if... they can find it, of course]. It doesn't NEED a remake. Neither does BiS, but if I were going to introduce someone who'd never played a Mario and Luigi game to the series, I'd probably start with Bowser's Inside Story--which, despite heavy competition from its incredible predecessors, still stands as the best game in the series to me and many other fans.
I just hope that the next game they make is a new entry. I'd honestly rather have that than a remake of PiT... especially if they relearned while remaking SS and BiS what made those games, and their series, special. No more Paper Jams, Nintendo! Please!
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I would recommend the first game or rather the remastered first game SS as it explains a lot of what happened in BIS.
This opinion affected me
But in a good way
I agree with those points too, but you clearly said it better than I could
Well, that's very kind of you, thank you. :)
Josiah Schiewe
Seeing people like you in the Internet is rare. I completely agree with you.
This opinion affected me
But in a negative way
I don't agree with those points too, BUTT you clearly said it in a bader way than i could
Anyone who says partners in time is shit, fight me
Partners in time in my opion will always be the best Mario rpg because Nintendo took a risk to make it different (controlling 4 characters instead of the usual 2) and it was very creative I also think the story was really good but this is just my personal opion it might also be because I played it first then bowsers inside story. I think that the ds Mario RPGs were the best out of the bunch.
partners in crime oh yeah
SwiperTheFox bowser's inside story took the much bigger risk of controlling bowser, and giant battles, instead of having 2 weaker copies of the bros like partners in time did
scrungy you remember the giant pink yoshi from partners in time? Much more vore there
I AM CRYING IF PARTNERS IN TIME WON'T GET RENAMED!!!
Uh... You want a rename for it? Mario and Luigi: Adventures in Babysitting.
I never understood why Nintendo never put DS games on the 3DS's Virtual Console.
Because the 3DS is compatible with NDS games by HARDWARE, so you just put the ds card in and it will play, no emulation requiered
MetalMatiaxs X I was just thinking that it should be able to also run a digital version of a DS game to, Nintendo could have made some extra money buy putting old DS games on Virtual Console for the 3DS. The WiiU had Xenoblade Chronicles and Mario Galaxy put on the eShop, the WiiU could play Wii games.
Also some people just like buying games digitally or they don't like buying used copies.
Matthew Wells Porting NDS games on the 3DS VC means making another emulator, and that is not worth it, because that also means extra time and effort for something that is already there in fisical form.
TL;DR: too much time and work needed for just an emulator when the console is already compatible since launch day
MetalMatiaxs X actually, it wouldn't require an emulator but a reroute function. It would basically need to be a better dsiware game. The Wii U can have Wii games in the virtual console cause of it being able to reroute the ISO of the game as a disk and running it. The 3ds can't do that however. If they modified the dsiware to allow it to run retail DS games then that would literally be a win win however its impossible due to it being a system thing instead of a programming thing.
So? It still be unnesesary, because that still requieres time and effort for a big update for the system that is still not worth it, becuase of retro-compatibility of the actual system using the card slot.
The NDS VC will be better for another console, like the switch, even if i don't know how are they going to do it
I don't think it's that they didn't want to remake Partners in Time, they just knew that people would really love a Bowser's Inside Story Remake so they made that first. Also, since the Shroobs make a cameo appearance in this game as a secret boss, it might also be to "test the waters" for how to make the HD Shroob sprite before you make the game that's focused entirely around them. Why do you think the HD Bowser sprite was made more similar to the BIS one in the Superstar Saga remake? How about the Mechawfuls' appearance? They'd likely do the same for Shroobs.
years later i am still playing my DS copy of PiT knowing its my favorite game in the mario and luigi series
Partners in time is my favorite!
Camilo Whitfield mine too
Camilo Whitfield that pfp fits well with the comment😂
seriously like the worst Mario and Luigi RPG of the Saga
Pablo quirque No one asked for your opinion.
Pablo quirque fuck you're opinion
While these are some reasons, I’m pretty sure they will do PiT later, I think the reason there doing BiS right now is because, look at when it’s coming out, 2019, and look at when the original came out, 2009, so I thinks it’s for the 10 year anniversary for BiS
And SS was remade, almost 15 years later
03bgood is that supposed to be a reason why it isn’t or something or is it why it is, I can’t tell
Lemmy Koopa Maybe PIT will come this year?
D.C Productions What part of later then BIT do you not understand?
Lemmy Koopa It's not that it's hard to understand. It's just that it goes all over the place once splitting up is possible
A possible reason why partners in time should have been remade was because it did not sell that many copies and fans of the series would posdibly give it a second chance or those who have never played can get a chance to try it out for the first time. I hope they remake it one day because I love that game.
I think Bowser’s Inside story sold way more because it came out later in the 2000s where the DS was gaining more steam and users. While when Partners In Time released prior to that large influx of incoming DS owners
I bet they’re probably remaking BIS to appeal to the fetishists. Think about it, there’s a Bros Attack where Luigi eats loads of junk food and gets really fat and Mario throws him at enemies and at one point, Mario inhales air from vents, causing him to inflate like a balloon so that he and Luigi can float over long gaps. And let’s not forget the part where Bowser stuffs his face at a victory feast and gets so fat that he can’t move and gets stuck in a hole in the floor.
DeviantART loves BIS.
Haha, nice one. XD
He's (probably) not serious, silly.
Danny Palin
I was honestly thinking about that posibility.
Danny Palin No mention of the blorbs or the water drinking?
Oh, yeah, and not forgetting vore.
Well, the reason why people hate partners in time is because of ONE reason:
The fact that you had to buy Special attacks with coins and not using SP ( Special points, like in Bowsers inside story ) Remaking games usually have the motive to FIX what was bad about the game, you say ( and most of the fan base say ) that Bowsers Inside story is a perfect game, but PiT isn’t , and that’s why it needs a remake more than Bowsers inside story.
i Mean, don't get me wrong, i loved Bowser's inside Stor, the story is better than PiT BUT !!! THERE ARE BABIES IN THIS GAME !!!
Saif Al Hammadi Exactly
Saif Al Hammadi not really, the story and game mechanics just weren’t as good.
I loved SSS but thought PiT was boring to the point where I couldn't finish it. The game panders excessively to the lowest common denominator (children who don't know better). And I forgot to mention how much of a chore battles are!
+DerpDerp3000 The opposite happened for me, and I was at an appropriate level during those fights.
I never had to buy any special attacks through any of my playthroughs. They are dropped enough and there are plenty of blocks that offer 2,4, even 12 of any special attack. Don't get me wrong I understand the chance of running out of special attacks can be an issue but you have to try pretty hard to do it. But it can be fixed and if this system was fixed to a lot of fans' liking than it would bring a ton more sales for that game. The word can be spread and more people will try it out because they heard the original had a flaw that wasn't liked.
Mario And Luigi Partners In Time + Baby Bowser's Pilots
I just finished partners in time after superstar saga and loved it as much as the first game
So when is this remake being remade?
Edit: the remakes remake ( not the original is being remade )
Dylan Jenkins remastered*
When they port it to switch.
2019
Dylan Jenkins
Looks like you’re first, so you get a Crown: 👑
I really dont get why people think that people dont like PIT because you have to control and switch between 4 characters at a time... Heres the thing: You control Mario and Luigi at the same time, Baby Mario and Baby Luigi at the same time. Sometimes all 4 at the same time. So its like controlling '2' and sometimes '1' character at the same time and you switch between them. And in BIS you do the same. Luigi follows Mario so thats 1 and Bowser is 2 and you switch between the '2'
You’re right about sales being a major role as to why they’d skip Partners in Time, but I think it’s cause of the date.
BIS is about to become 10 years old and since it is one of the most popular Mario RPGS out there, it could be they would celebrate a popular games anniversary. It’d be pretty weird to release a remake for PIT when BIS gets its decade old anniversary.
I still remember one of my friends constantly playing bowsers inside story in school and saying that it’s his favourite game, so I ended up getting it as well. I had already owned dream team and started to become a huge fan of the series.
There's also something else to take into consideration: The base games themselves.
Bowser's Inside Story practically requires a DS to function, using both screens to keep track of both Mario & Luigi and Bowser, and touch controls for the minigames and giant battles.
Partners in Time didn't really use a lot of these features a lot. [If at all, I can't really remember] A Partners in Time remake would be able to use the more powerful hardware of the Switch without really sacrificing anything.
I personally believe Alphadream is remaking Bowser's Inside Story to get the 3DS out of the way and start developing for the Switch. I think we'll be seeing a Partners in Time Remake on the Switch in either 2020 or 2021.
PresumptuousPopplio EXACTLY
+PresumptuousPopplio
YAY!
BUTBUTBUT!
What about when you have to rub the dirt off the picture of Princess Shroob?
How could they do that without the 3DS!?
Well that's one of the very few instances that it can be used that I can remember. It could easily be transferred into a cutscene or simply just use the joystick to wipe it off.
If it was on the Switch they would have to change most of the things that used the dual screen such as the bosses, some bros items and when you had to separate the 2 pairs of bros to solve puzzles
It Would Be Insane If The Made A Partner's In Time Remake.
I know right.
Luis Fernando what are you talking about it would be great!!!
@@themoonhasrisen2129 It would be amazing and nuts.
Uejsi Lulja Ohhhhhh it probably won’t happen do to the poor sales of sss and bis remakes but I hope 🤞 it does happen
@@themoonhasrisen2129 Believe me the remake is going to be so fantastic and the sales are gonig to be so high.
I enjoyed both DS M&L games, but PiT was by far my favored game. Something about it has kept me coming back. Trying to find used copies after my initial one was stolen, downloading the roms so I could play it on my laptop, etc. I have a poster for PiT, and it came out in '05, a game that came out when the DS was still VERY young, whereas BIS was released a long time after, giving Nintendo plenty of time to perfect controls, graphics, story, etc.
I played BIS before PIT so I has a special place in my heart
I hate that barely anyone cared about the Bowser's Inside Story remake. I cried tears of joy when it was announced.
dongledude. Remakes are kinda lazy when we could have gotten something new
dongledude.
I would probably reacted the same as etika when smash 5 was announced but I lost my 3ds years ago lol
Honestly, I only played dream team and paper jam, but I was more interested in Bowsers inside story than partners in time (mostly because Bowser was a good guy). But if they were to make a second story for partners in time, it would be a bit more complicated to make (in terms of story and plot) because of the jump between the past and present, especially when Bowser villains had a small role in the game.
Well they could have just announced bowsers inside story to show that the 3ds will still sell into 2019. Maybe they already started work on a remake for partners in time in secret. I mean they have egad talking about the invention of the time machine in the minion quest so they could have it hidden behind closed doors
I say Partners in Time was the best, not just the fact that it was my first one, but the story just felt like it clicked together
My favorites from best to worst
1. Superstar Saga
2. Partners In Time
3. Bowser’s Inside Story
I wish more people liked Partners in Time :( i loved it so much, it was one of my favorite games from my childhood
James Bryant It makes me feel bad tath PiT is considered the worst, I actually loved that Game.
It's not an terrible game by all means. But it is one of the worst Mario & Luigi games honestly.
Worker: Sir, We Cant Come Up With The Name Of Partner In Time Remake!
Nintendo: Then Remake Bowser's Inside Story! Oh, And Please Add Bowser's Jr. Journey In The Remake.
Worker: BRILLIANT!
Me: Why Not Partner In Time + Starlow's Adventure Or Revenge Of Fawful?
Starlow's Adventures= Her Adventures Before They Met Mario Bros.
Or
Revenge Of Fawful= Fawful Want To Avenge Cackletta And We Will Find Out How Fawful Met Or Hired Midbus
I would love to know how Fawful found and hired Midbus
Yeach reverge of fawful is a great idea
Or Princess Shroobs Invasion
They will most likely show how fawful hires midbus in bowser jrs journey
Fuck ya boy Starlow WAS NOT in Partners in Time.
We need Stuffwell back. That boi was really something else.
I really loved M&L partners and time and to see how they would recreate the items partner attacks would be nice
They probably needed to use the Fawful theme to make the A Fateful Clash! DX because the theme could be forgotten and they wanted to remember to use the theme, so they left partners in time for another year and decided to do Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story DX.
Partners in time was my FAVORITE ONE GOD DAMN IT!!!!
i would we really happy if they brought parters in time for switch
Yeah that would be cool but switch doesnt have 2 screens like ds or 3ds have
@@Legacyfenwick I think like the emulators have that. 2 screens horizontal. That would be cool for that
From what I can guess, after Paper Jam sold only a fraction of what Dream Team and Bowser's Inside Story sold, I think AlphaDream decided that rather than make a new Mario & Luigi game, I think AlphaDream instead opted to go the safe route and remake some of their older games instead. They first released the remake of Superstar Saga, which didn't sell that well from what I have heard. So, after that, their mentality was, out of desperation, OK, Bowser's Inside Story is our best-selling game and sold more than Partners in Time, so we'll remake that game next. And unfortunately, much like the Superstar Saga remake, the BIS remake did not sell well either. And I think after these three failures, it was pretty much the final nail in the coffin. It's a shame, though, because I legitimately believe had the Superstar Saga and Bowser's Inside Story remakes sold better, they would have eventually gone back to remake Partners In Time. But then again, with the main complaint I've heard from a lot of people being "There's no point in remaking Bowser's Inside Story because you can play DS games on 3DS", I'm very doubtful that a Partners In Time remake would have fared any better than the Superstar Saga and Bowser's Inside Story remakes.
I dont think it is because of sales or anything, but because they missed the 10 year anniversary for PiT, so they are planning to release it on the 15 year anniversary. BiS just got to the 10 year anniversary, so it is special.
I love Parters in Time because was My firts MARIO Game, I prefer BIS, but I would like more a remake of PIT :"v
:v means Spanish. I can see it!
Dani_88 why don’t you just replay it if you like it so much no remake needed
So people would rather preforming surgery in Bowser rather that travel back in time and save the world from mutated mushrooms.
*HMMMMMMMM*
*intresting*
That is so random...
@@NyctobloomCreations4658 I mean so is preforming surgery on bowser.
@@yeraveragedegenerate5360...i was talking about both
The bad sales could also be due to Partners in Time coming out so early in the DS lifespan so not many people had a DS at the time of release so it went under the radar especially with Mario Kart DS and New Super Mario Bros coming out at a similar time.
Holy shit. They rejected my favorite Mario and Luigi game I played as a child. Is there even anyone who loves partners in time while growing up?
I love partners in time
Luke the glorious gamer it’s my favorite game
I’m not going to buy the remake. Why? You may ask? Because I already have the original. If PiT gets a remake. I’ll buy it. Why Because I have but it has potential to be refined.
So does inside story.............
@@akeemtaylor8375 no inside story realise all of its ideas there is little to no room for improvement
@@Ivytheherbert it doesnt matter any ways because you was what happened
Let’s be real tho, PiT had the best enemy designs. Period.
Yet no signs about a Legend of the 7 Stars remake...
The 3D and the lower screen can easily make the game much better, and many would like to hear the remixes they would make to the soundtracks, or maybe to even make the Samus and Link cameos a bit canon.
I know this comment is old, but you actually have to thank Square Enix for that. The reason Geno never really had a presence in Mario anymore and why Square Enix suddenly shifted from making Final Fantasy a mainly Nintendo franchise to a mainly third party franchise is because of a huge spat the two companies had over who owned the characters exclusive to Legend of the Seven Stars, most particularly Geno and Mallow. Even today, Square Enix and Nintendo aren't exactly on the greatest of terms, with SE only re-releasing their games on Switch for sales over fandom (Almost every FF game released on Switch costs way more than if you just bought it on Steam or the PS Store) and offering extremely limited content in terms of FF's Smash representage (literally 1 Character, 1 Stage, and 3 Songs. Rumor has it SE is salty about not getting any money from the Fighter's Pass DLC)
Partners in time was my childhood
All these people loving PiT just brought a smile to my face
nintendo didn’t want to take a risk cause partners in time sold the worst.... I’m still salty to this day.
I have an interesting idea, since we know that bowser inside story is planned to be made next year, what if the teaser trailer for BIS DX, it's a somewhat hidden hint that the partners in time remake is going to be made this year. And that we don't know it. I mean, who knows. Let's hope that in a later Nintendo Direct, (which we don't know when) it will probably announce what I'm talking about and it be planned to be released this fall.
Aw man. Partners in Time was a REALLY good game
I was scare to see a lot of people agree with the "worst" game... but finally I saw a lot of "It's my favorite" !! So it's not the worse !! It mad my childhood ! I LOVE the story of this game !
It really does suck that even if they wanted to remake the second game, they cant now
I like to think of it more like "Bowser's Revenge".
Everyone's complaining that Partners in Time got skipped, but what they pay less attention to is that Bowser's Inside Story was skipped first--back on the Wii U VC. Superstar Saga was released on VC in 2014, then came Partners in Time in 2015...but Bowser's Inside Story, despite being one of the most demanded DS games for VC, never made the cut.
After the Superstar Saga remake, Bowser finally saw his chance to get his game rereleased before Partners in Time could steal his thunder...again. But this was more than a simple emulation. It was a full-blown remake, complete with enhanced graphics, a few adjustments, and even an extensive new mode starring his son! Mere payback doesn't cut it for Bowser; he needs a compensation fee as well!
Okay, explain how giant battles would work on Virtual Console. That's also practically why the BIS remake was on the 3DS. Plus, AD said they're not sure whether or not BIS DX was their last 3DS game. Probably is, so PIT is likely to make the cut on switch by 2020 or 2021.
Have you ever played a DS VC game? There's a lot more screen settings than commonly advertised. One of them, "Vertical Screens", would be perfect for giant battles.
YoshiFlutterJump ok never mind
Partners in time is actually the best game
Loved partners in time so man
Even if the reasons you give here were the case, it would’ve been nice if they actually did give Partners in Time another chance in selling more by remaking that game first. I mean sure there are other ways to play Partners in Time, but it would’ve been nice to experience that one in the style the recent games have had along with fixing some of the issue it may have had.