J Greenseed or gassing it in corners or turning, it’s not just about twisting up and down, it’s also about the play side to side because of your shackles. Your main drive tire will try to go a head of your other tire
Im building a c10 and am planning on anywhere from 400 to 600 hp would it be better to go with short traction bars or longer ones that go to the center of the frame
So I put the 7 1/2 inch rough country suspension lift on my 09 Chevy Silverado with 20 x 12 -44 Moto metal 970s and 35 12 1/2 klever rt and did the Norcal mod and it still rubs at full turn
I got an 08 2500 HD rado with a RC 6 inch lift . I'm running 35x12.5 Kanati mud hogs. And 16 inch ion alloys -38 offsets and no rub. You think its the 20_inch rims your running?
After watching some videos showing axle wrap, I'm curious to know if they would also help with smoothing out the acceleration and deceleration jolts when shifting a manual. I can drive it like a limousine, but it takes a lot of concentration and I feel like I'm putting a lot more wear on my clutch when I do.
QUESTION: can I daily/tow/ drive on the highway with traction bars??? Got a silverado SS 6.0 full bolt ons that I would like to get some for...mostly a street machine
@@majerstud as long as the mount on axle is on the top there is no difference. You can jack a truck sky high but you’re still gonna get hung up in a foot or two of mud cuz that’s how high the pumpkin of the axle is off the ground
last time i checked into getting some they are only recommended for a 5in lift or higher i would assume they sit pretty low and would prolly scrape (or come close to) on any less of a lift.
You see traction bars on lifted trucks to hold the axle from twisting due to the lift block. BUT they can also be beneficial on stock or slightly lower trucks as well that put down decent power to hold the axle from hopping.
@@jorgel673 if you crank a lot of torque, the bars help there. If you offroad a lot, i wouldnt worry about it. If you have the racer/offroad truck 454 with a kit putting it into a 492, or a 572, 632 etc. Then i would get detachable so you dont destroy the leafs. Before you ask. Yes, i am the type guy to buy a $1500 1990s 3500 dually and put a wide single slick tire with a 632 $12,000 engine into it.
No intention to be antagonistic but m seeing real negative using them. The need is because of the lift or high lift, but the traction bars negate your clearance on the axles as well as the underside. Definitely cool looking I'll give you that. For racing its moot but out on the rocks the lost clearance can be a real problem leaving you stranded. Wouldn't the proper leaf springs to get rid of lift block while asl ridding you of the clearance issues with traction bars be a better choice? Am I getting this right?
If i put mcgaughys 9 inch lift kit on my 19 at4 1500 could i put the rough cou try tract bar on my tryck or would i need the same companies tract bar whose kit i have
You see traction bars on lifted trucks to hold the axle from twisting due to the lift block. BUT they can also be beneficial on stock or slightly lower trucks as well that put down decent power to hold the axle from hopping!
Traction bars are always a good addition under high powered trucks or trucks that are used the majority of the time to pull heavy loads. Whether you should add one to your build is up to you to decide if you are worried about the rear axle moving.
I have their Tier 4 control arms on my 06 Ram 3500 and I love them so far. Flex like crazy when I disconnect the front sway bar, super easy to adjust and strong as hell. Priced right as well especially with Johnny Joints on both ends.
Does it make the suspension stiffer or does it make it ride like factory. Because i installed some leaf spring clamps andni did stop the wheel hop but it made the truck very stiff
Ladder bars n traction bars are two different things but same concept but , ladder go to frame to axle, traction are just a under or over axle and connect to leaf springs and r a axle hop more than wrap ish but help on the not as good as ladder but cheaper 🤷🏻♂️
@@fishhuntadventure 👍 yah not sure what I was thinking 💭 I guess I was trying to differentiate between leaf spring traction bars and the better frame to axle bars
I want traction bars on my 97 f350 I feel it hope around sometimes and I do toe with it and I use it for work and I want to take it drag racing at a event next year what would be a good company to get traction bars from for my obs 7.3 ?
You see traction bars on lifted trucks to hold the axle from twisting due to the lift block. BUT they can also be beneficial on stock or slightly lower trucks as well that put down decent power to hold the axle from hopping!
You see traction bars on lifted trucks to hold the axle from twisting due to the lift block. BUT they can also be beneficial on stock or slightly lower trucks as well that put down decent power to hold the axle from hopping!
You see traction bars on lifted trucks to hold the axle from twisting due to the lift block. BUT they can also be beneficial on stock or slightly lower trucks as well that put down decent power to hold the axle from hopping!
You see traction bars on lifted trucks to hold the axle from twisting due to the lift block. BUT they can also be beneficial on stock or slightly lower trucks as well that put down decent power to hold the axle from hopping!
steven moreno I hear ya 👍that’s kinda my point , all these lifts have block lifts for rear and maybe a add a leaf 👎 when you can find a 4-6” rear spring lift separate for about $200 for both , so you really end up paying for the front lift axle drop and what not for the IFS and shocks, ..... and here’s a couple blocks and u bolts worth $100 maybe 🤷🏻♂️ thanks 👍
@@888films-4 they said this... “They are good on any truck that needs them. I would need to know what the year, make, and model of your truck is and how much lift you have to see if we offer any traction bars. They are not available for all applications.”
Ok so I’ve got a 17 eco boost f-150 that has a lot of axle rotation and vibration. it’s tuned has a 3:73 ratio and 34” toyo RT’s on a bilstien 5100 set up. Tires are fairly well balanced as we’ve checked a couple times. Would traction bars work at a leveled height? It seems ridiculous looking at that height but like a old muscle car there is kinda no alternative other than new spring packs really? I’d be interested to see if anyone suffers the same highway vibrations and generally sloppy axle rotation on a relatively good shape f150 and if this has stabilized it some. I Enjoy your shows and was nice to see you back with someone real to talk too on today’s video. 🤙🏼
No. Leafsprings and a four link is not leafsprings and a 'trac bar' . Leafsprings and trac bars use 1 shackle in stock location. Four link with leafsprings adds another shackle to the front of the leaf spring and is very rarely done. Usually four links themselves have coil or coilover springs and do not include the use of leafsprings.
I have HSPs traction bars and I can guarantee that they do help a lot! Def an amazing upgrade for people who tow a lot !
Can you guys do best dually wheels just got one and needing some ideas
Short traction bars work just fine as long as they are made correctly mine are only 3ft long and I sled pull and drag race and I’m making around 1k hp
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I would like a video explaining about 3 or 4 link suspensions
rate whistlindisel monstermax!!
I put One Up Offroad trac. bars on my 3rd gen 5.9 complete bolt on they work great.
Depends on how much power your truck has. If you can feel your drive shaft hit the bottom of your truck, you need them.
J Greenseed or gassing it in corners or turning, it’s not just about twisting up and down, it’s also about the play side to side because of your shackles. Your main drive tire will try to go a head of your other tire
@@WS1_AUTOS_N_STUFF what?
@@Zyphen4866 your lead springs buckle under load allowing the axle to pivot forward and backward as well as up and down
Im building a c10 and am planning on anywhere from 400 to 600 hp would it be better to go with short traction bars or longer ones that go to the center of the frame
So I put the 7 1/2 inch rough country suspension lift on my 09 Chevy Silverado with 20 x 12 -44 Moto metal 970s and 35 12 1/2 klever rt and did the Norcal mod and it still rubs at full turn
Should a bought a Ford. Round wheel wells vs square always go round. Can u fit something half round in a half square? Kinda hard to do
I got an 08 2500 HD rado with a RC 6 inch lift . I'm running 35x12.5 Kanati mud hogs. And 16 inch ion alloys -38 offsets and no rub. You think its the 20_inch rims your running?
After watching some videos showing axle wrap, I'm curious to know if they would also help with smoothing out the acceleration and deceleration jolts when shifting a manual.
I can drive it like a limousine, but it takes a lot of concentration and I feel like I'm putting a lot more wear on my clutch when I do.
I'd imagine it would help then
No, they would offer zero benefit smoothing out the acc/deceleration jolt from driving a manual.
Jolt from a manual? Operator error
Wow! Very well explained! Great visuals! Thank you!!!!
Wehrli Custom Fab makes really good traction bars as well. That’s where I buy most of my truck parts 👌🏼
QUESTION: can I daily/tow/ drive on the highway with traction bars??? Got a silverado SS 6.0 full bolt ons that I would like to get some for...mostly a street machine
Yes, it helps with alignment too
Gerardo G. Sure can!
I would love to get some but don’t know if the loss of clearance is worth it
My thoughts exactly.
@@majerstud as long as the mount on axle is on the top there is no difference. You can jack a truck sky high but you’re still gonna get hung up in a foot or two of mud cuz that’s how high the pumpkin of the axle is off the ground
Should they be used on low lifts/levels
last time i checked into getting some they are only recommended for a 5in lift or higher i would assume they sit pretty low and would prolly scrape (or come close to) on any less of a lift.
You see traction bars on lifted trucks to hold the axle from twisting due to the lift block. BUT they can also be beneficial on stock or slightly lower trucks as well that put down decent power to hold the axle from hopping.
@@jorgel673 if you crank a lot of torque, the bars help there. If you offroad a lot, i wouldnt worry about it. If you have the racer/offroad truck 454 with a kit putting it into a 492, or a 572, 632 etc. Then i would get detachable so you dont destroy the leafs.
Before you ask. Yes, i am the type guy to buy a $1500 1990s 3500 dually and put a wide single slick tire with a 632 $12,000 engine into it.
Cody Banker exactly mine hops and its got 2inch drop shacks and 2 inch pucks so its pretty much level
can u make a video about quadrasteers?
No intention to be antagonistic but m seeing real negative using them. The need is because of the lift or high lift, but the traction bars negate your clearance on the axles as well as the underside. Definitely cool looking I'll give you that. For racing its moot but out on the rocks the lost clearance can be a real problem leaving you stranded. Wouldn't the proper leaf springs to get rid of lift block while asl ridding you of the clearance issues with traction bars be a better choice? Am I getting this right?
If i put mcgaughys 9 inch lift kit on my 19 at4 1500 could i put the rough cou try tract bar on my tryck or would i need the same companies tract bar whose kit i have
I would keep it all one brand!
What about for a 2014 sierra 1500 with level kit??
What about roadmaster active suspension ?
RoadMaster is geared more toward adding load/ towing capacity. Not quite the same as true traction bars.
Excellent video!
Does this have anything to do with wheel hop during break burn
could never find traction bars for my 08 f150, lifted 6 inches. help?
Autoanything.com procomp traction bars + mounting bracket
Shoot us an email to info@customoffsets.com and we can help! 🙏
try reaper traction bars or caltracs, i run caltracs on my 04
If I put the carli full leaf upgrade on my 3rd gen ram to get a smother ride will traction bars stiffen the ride ? Or will it still ride nice
I have a 3 inch RC lift. Could I run traction bars in that small of a lift?
You see traction bars on lifted trucks to hold the axle from twisting due to the lift block. BUT they can also be beneficial on stock or slightly lower trucks as well that put down decent power to hold the axle from hopping!
He explained all this in the video doesn’t matter the size of your lift it’s about what the traction bars do
Are these worth it to install for example in a 1500 truck small 4" lift making stock power 260-320hp?
Wondering the same exact thing rn but with a 6 inch lift
Would you recommend that bar for a 4" lift?.
Traction bars are always a good addition under high powered trucks or trucks that are used the majority of the time to pull heavy loads. Whether you should add one to your build is up to you to decide if you are worried about the rear axle moving.
Which a lot of lifts have rear blocks to lift instead of springs causing lil more axle rap , which I agree, any time u can get ladder bars do it 👍
Is core 4x4 a good brand?
I have their Tier 4 control arms on my 06 Ram 3500 and I love them so far. Flex like crazy when I disconnect the front sway bar, super easy to adjust and strong as hell. Priced right as well especially with Johnny Joints on both ends.
Is it necessary to put some on my Tacoma with a 6” lift?
It’s a Tacoma. No
Does it make the suspension stiffer or does it make it ride like factory. Because i installed some leaf spring clamps andni did stop the wheel hop but it made the truck very stiff
Ladder bars n traction bars are two different things but same concept but , ladder go to frame to axle, traction are just a under or over axle and connect to leaf springs and r a axle hop more than wrap ish but help on the not as good as ladder but cheaper 🤷🏻♂️
A ladder bar is a traction bar, dude. Length has nothing to do with it b
@@fishhuntadventure 👍 yah not sure what I was thinking 💭 I guess I was trying to differentiate between leaf spring traction bars and the better frame to axle bars
How long of a traction bar would work for an ext cab short bed 2001 GMC Sierra 1500 with a 4 inch suspension lift
I just asked for this video a few weeks ago thanks for the upload
Hope you enjoyed it!
I run L&L ladder bars on my big block 78 k10.
How does this affect coil rear end setups?
Any coil or coilover rear suspension system would have rear control arms or link bars, thus eliminating the need for traction bars.
can you talk about dive Bars?
Is there brackets for differential support?
BDS offers fixed traction bars as well. What’s the difference between the two?
I want traction bars on my 97 f350 I feel it hope around sometimes and I do toe with it and I use it for work and I want to take it drag racing at a event next year what would be a good company to get traction bars from for my obs 7.3 ?
I have a 4 inch lift in my duramax and plan on pulling it. Do you recommend traction bars or not? I’m pretty much bone stock
Would traction bars help get rid of highway vibrations?
You see traction bars on lifted trucks to hold the axle from twisting due to the lift block. BUT they can also be beneficial on stock or slightly lower trucks as well that put down decent power to hold the axle from hopping!
Are they good for just driving not lifting heavy stuff or off-road?
You see traction bars on lifted trucks to hold the axle from twisting due to the lift block. BUT they can also be beneficial on stock or slightly lower trucks as well that put down decent power to hold the axle from hopping!
I got a 2015 gmc sierra Z it had the 6.2 option and i needed my trac bars i even snapped a bolt on one and it s a nice fts lift 🤦🏻♂️😭.
Will they help on my civic?
They will not!!
Is there traction bars for a 3rd gen Tacoma on 6 inch lift?
Shoot us an email to info@customoffsets.com and our experts can help! 🙏
I like the look of a traction bar
I have no idea of it has already been asked but is it worth doing track bars on a smaller lift, 4 inches or 6 inches?
You see traction bars on lifted trucks to hold the axle from twisting due to the lift block. BUT they can also be beneficial on stock or slightly lower trucks as well that put down decent power to hold the axle from hopping!
Do they make trac bars for a lifted rwd f-150
Shoot us an email to info@customoffsets.com and we can check!
Did they give you a link to one?
Neutral drop making an appearance !
are traction bars only for diesel trucks?
Gas trucks can benefit from them as well!
So was there a minimum lift height you need to use these bars? Are they just for the big lift show truck types?
@David 99 wouldn't those be considered cal tracks? I don't know the extent of your homies truck but typically thats what a lowered truck will have
You see traction bars on lifted trucks to hold the axle from twisting due to the lift block. BUT they can also be beneficial on stock or slightly lower trucks as well that put down decent power to hold the axle from hopping!
Custom Offsets could of swore you just repeated yourself from the video listen up ladies and gentlemen
Should do block vs spring lift
WS1 AUTO’S N STUFF spring is always better but blocks are way cheaper
steven moreno I hear ya 👍that’s kinda my point , all these lifts have block lifts for rear and maybe a add a leaf 👎 when you can find a 4-6” rear spring lift separate for about $200 for both , so you really end up paying for the front lift axle drop and what not for the IFS and shocks, ..... and here’s a couple blocks and u bolts worth $100 maybe 🤷🏻♂️ thanks 👍
I call it axle or wheel hop u got big tires or torque it cuts that axle hop down
Why did you move the rifle?
Hey I just learn something new today
HSP has sweet traction bars🤘
Can you put them on a 2WD truck?
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Would these be good for a 2WD
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What they say?
@@888films-4 they said this...
“They are good on any truck that needs them. I would need to know what the year, make, and model of your truck is and how much lift you have to see if we offer any traction bars. They are not available for all applications.”
Can you put traction bars on a gasoline truck
You definitely can!
They work!!!
This was the best explanation ever, straight forward and to the point, I like it
Not really - no it wasn’t
He is confused about the difference between “trac bars” and traction bars.
He ignorantly mixed the terms a bunch of times.
Lil plug for my boys in Brooklyn
I’m running the icon ones on my FJ and they are great
Rough country looks cool but seems like you give up a lot of ground clearance
When I do burnouts I get major wheel hop, this started happening after I lowered my truck, would these completely solve that problem?
I’m looking into the Speed Engineering ones
Heyyyyyy. Oh that makes sense
Love the vid.
SUV video?
Great video Fuller.
I’ll be adding a set to my Excursion with a 6 inch BDS lift.
Hope gone they aren't made for 12th Gen f150s?
Shoot us an email to info@customoffsets.com and our experts can help check man! 🙏
Made for looks
Fuck yea they are
WHEEL HOP!!!
Traction bars for cars? Do you have
Ladder bar never heard that
@neutraldrop you guys got a spot in this video getting famous boys worst case Ontario 😂😂😂 trailer park boys reference
Ok so I’ve got a 17 eco boost f-150 that has a lot of axle rotation and vibration. it’s tuned has a 3:73 ratio and 34” toyo RT’s on a bilstien 5100 set up. Tires are fairly well balanced as we’ve checked a couple times. Would traction bars work at a leveled height? It seems ridiculous looking at that height but like a old muscle car there is kinda no alternative other than new spring packs really? I’d be interested to see if anyone suffers the same highway vibrations and generally sloppy axle rotation on a relatively good shape f150 and if this has stabilized it some. I Enjoy your shows and was nice to see you back with someone real to talk too on today’s video. 🤙🏼
Tubular dude!!!
Hi
This was actually a pretty good informative vid
Legit 🤘
Another name for trac bars is a 4 link setup
No. Leafsprings and a four link is not leafsprings and a 'trac bar' . Leafsprings and trac bars use 1 shackle in stock location. Four link with leafsprings adds another shackle to the front of the leaf spring and is very rarely done. Usually four links themselves have coil or coilover springs and do not include the use of leafsprings.
You don’t have every lift kit I could ever want you don’t have a Cummins first gen lift kit on there
Shoot us an email to info@customoffsets.com and we should be able to get that for you!
So what you’re saying is 98% of guys have them for aesthetics
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First!
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They look ridiculous