Good video. One line I'd add to your list is a floating mono line. The best I've found is Varivas AIRS floating shooting line in 24 pound. It's actually hollow core so it floats well for nymphing and dry/dropper flies and is lighter than the thinnest coated lines for easy line suspension without the drape affect of coated lines. It tangles less than furled lines for nymphing too.
all i want to do is catch a good number of quality brook trout and a good mess of blue gills, it just happens that the best fishing i found was on those tiny creeks that have hardly any water in them or the ponds that are not much larger than a mud puddle those are the best fishing i have found
Nice and succinct info but what about lever furled and braided lines? I make my own furled lines from commercial braid and have found some commercial woven braided line sold by the meter, in the ultralight camping equipment which casts like a dream on my 13 ft tenkara 4/3 rod.
Any of the 3 different lines will work. But if it were me setting up a rod to fish dry flies on a small stream I would go either 8 or 10.5 ft crossbreed (depending on what size rod I'm fishing and the size of the stream/are there any obstacles like trees) and 3 ft. of tippet. Also when fishing small streams especially in the summer time I would start with a bigger fly just to make sure to get their attention and because its easier to see. And if that doesn't work then I would start sizing down my fly. Good luck!
My 8yo daughter and I, caught 4 steelhead on a 20 ft HT Shooting star! Now that i know about tenkara,im going to get an actual tenkara rod. I love catching steelhed on that huge pole! idk how my daughter manipulates it ,but she brought them to me so i could catch them by hand. 25 inch steelhead. We are going for pike on a tenkara rod,also catfish. I need a big game tenkara rod, something to handle salmon also.
Thats awesome! When targeting bigger fish like salmon or steelhead we will typically use the Rocky rod its our longest and beefiest rod. But so much fun landing those big fish on a rod like that!
Brand new to Tenkara, putting together supplies. Furled line came with my new rod. I ordered some tapered floating line - lightweight mono core. When should I use the tapered floating line? Thanks . . .
Hey Richard great question. Furled line is more of an all around line meaning that it does everything fairly well. It will float (if you apply floatant), it will sink if you don't. So you can fish dry flies when it floats and nymphs/tenkara flies when you aren't using floatant on it. The CrossBreed line or pvc coated floating line is mainly for dry flies. While a level line is going to be the best option for nymphs/tenkara flies. While all of the lines can do all of these things, they do work best when using them for their specific purpose. Hope that answered some of your questions!
There is no exact way to do it, but it's mostly preference. I think a sweet spot is having a line about the same length as the rod or a little bit shorter, with an extra 3-4 ft of tippet. So the overall line might be a few feet longer than the whole rod.
12 ft. rod I would go with a 10 ft. line and then anywhere from 2-6 feet of tippet depending on what you feel comfortable with. That would be a good place to start. Play around with different tippet lengths until you find your sweet spot. And then if you find you want a little bit more line 13 ft. works great for fishing lakes or ponds.
What about shorter rods? I've got a 12ft hellbender but I picked up a 5ft rod for the tighter spots. What line would you recommend for the smaller one?
Hi Jean. It really depends on the water and how big of bass you are going for. You don't really want your line + tippet to be too long because then it becomes more difficult to land the fish. we recommend usually between 2-5 feet of tippet generally. Personally I just unspool the tippet to the length of my armspan or maybe a little bit less. But it is something you can play around with and figure out what works for you.
I'm new to tenkara but I don't understand the need for a loop of backing, etc. on the rod end of the line. If you can tie a knot in it that holds the loop, why not just tie a loop in it to connect to the lilian? Thanks! PS - hit the like button as soon as you said, "Do I look like I do yoga?"!
great question. you definitely do not need the backing loop it just makes it easier to attach to the lillian. the backing loop is really easy to remove also so if you wanted to just go line to lillian its a quick fix
Great question and it really depends. If you are fishing small creeks that are fast and the fish aren't that picky then you can keep it all on the water. But if I am fishing slower water to picky fish then i generally keep all of my line off the water and just allow a little bit of tippet to hit the water.
I guess that depends on what fly you are fishing with and what your goal is. If you want your fly to get down quickly then the level line cuts through the water the quickest and will put your wetfly in the right spot. If you are dry fly fishing then the crossbreed will do a better job at keeping your fly on top.
Is the tippet included in your calculation for total length or are you talking about just the line and the tippet would be beyond the amount matching the rod?
I almost always opt for the 10.5 with that size of rod (unless I am fishing a lake then I might go 13 ft. Or if I am primarily fishing small tight water I might use 8 ft. line).
Excellent! New to tenkara and this removed the mystery that other TK fishermen like to attach to this ancient Japanese secret. Why don't they keep it as simple as it really? Glorified cane pole.
Thanks! While there are definitely a lot of nuances to Tenkara and different ways to go about it we like to explain things as simply as possible from our perspective and let others decide how they want to fish it. Cheers!
@@SDPBALLCOACH Also, ever weigh a cane pole. The comparison is tired and lazy. cane poles, crappie poles etc. weight 3x as much and have much different action.
@@BrettPrice1983 I don't doubt it. I've never fished Tenkara but it might be a good setup to carry in the truck behind/under the seat... Even for pond/lakes in warm water areas...
@@SDPBALLCOACH It's absolutely amazing for this. And ditch fishing (in WI all water is public access so you can walk down into the ditch, then down into the river and fish it)
@@tenkararodco nice. i have had a few of them over the years to haul MX bikes/camper conversions. my favorite was my old Grand Cabin 15pax hiace. that thing was a beast.
William Wojcieszek I really like the crossbreed line in that situation. Slap a little payette paste on the furled tip of the crossbreed line so it acts like an indicator and then go as deep as you need with your tippet. It’s just Deadly William deadly!
William Wojcieszek there is really not much difference and that’s why Tenkara rods work great for euro nymphing. The long rod allows for a drag free presentation especially when tight line nymphing.
Very helpful. Even 4 years later. Thanks
Glad you still found it helpful!
Good video. One line I'd add to your list is a floating mono line. The best I've found is Varivas AIRS floating shooting line in 24 pound. It's actually hollow core so it floats well for nymphing and dry/dropper flies and is lighter than the thinnest coated lines for easy line suspension without the drape affect of coated lines. It tangles less than furled lines for nymphing too.
Enjoyed the award winning video, explained what I needed with the different lines.
Started weird, and got weirder. I approve.
Haha whoops
Silly, but quite informative! Thank you!!
haha hopefully the silliness wasn't distracting!
I make furled line from 15-20 pound ...... heavier for wind and sinks really good.....yup
all i want to do is catch a good number of quality brook trout and a good mess of blue gills, it just happens that the best fishing i found was on those tiny creeks that have hardly any water in them or the ponds that are not much larger than a mud puddle those are the best fishing i have found
Love catching bluegills on dry flies up here in the northeast, highly underrated fishery
Nice and succinct info but what about lever furled and braided lines? I make my own furled lines from commercial braid and have found some commercial woven braided line sold by the meter, in the ultralight camping equipment which casts like a dream on my 13 ft tenkara 4/3 rod.
Great explanation! Wish you guys did this a few years ago when I got started with tenkara fishing.
We definitely should have done this one a long time ago! Any other videos you'd like to see in the future, we're always open to suggestions.
@@tenkararodco How about a video going over all the flies you sell and how/when to use them?
@@waltlongmire6277 That is one we have on the shortlist! Watch for it in the coming month.
@@tenkararodcocasting techniques would be good
I want to use dry flies to catch trout on small streams. Do I use crossbreed line and 3 feet of tipet? Anything else?
Thanks!
Any of the 3 different lines will work. But if it were me setting up a rod to fish dry flies on a small stream I would go either 8 or 10.5 ft crossbreed (depending on what size rod I'm fishing and the size of the stream/are there any obstacles like trees) and 3 ft. of tippet. Also when fishing small streams especially in the summer time I would start with a bigger fly just to make sure to get their attention and because its easier to see. And if that doesn't work then I would start sizing down my fly. Good luck!
I just discovered this amazing style of fishing (have no gear though) what would you recommend for first overall rod . I live in Pittsburgh.
Teton Zoom is a good choice just because it can be fished at multiple lengths.
My 8yo daughter and I, caught 4 steelhead on a 20 ft HT Shooting star! Now that i know about tenkara,im going to get an actual tenkara rod. I love catching steelhed on that huge pole! idk how my daughter manipulates it ,but she brought them to me so i could catch them by hand. 25 inch steelhead. We are going for pike on a tenkara rod,also catfish. I need a big game tenkara rod, something to handle salmon also.
Thats awesome! When targeting bigger fish like salmon or steelhead we will typically use the Rocky rod its our longest and beefiest rod. But so much fun landing those big fish on a rod like that!
Great video!
Sup!!!
Thanks for the info!
No problem!
Wondering how the cross breed would work on the 10’ bear tooth. Just purchased one.
That is a great combo in my opinion. For dry flies the crossbreed line is hard to beat!
Which flies should I be using on the beartooth with a cross breed?
Looks like the narrows down in Preston ID
Correct!
Yeah, I saw Napoleon in the background
Brand new to Tenkara, putting together supplies. Furled line came with my new rod. I ordered some tapered floating line - lightweight mono core. When should I use the tapered floating line? Thanks . . .
Hey Richard great question. Furled line is more of an all around line meaning that it does everything fairly well. It will float (if you apply floatant), it will sink if you don't. So you can fish dry flies when it floats and nymphs/tenkara flies when you aren't using floatant on it. The CrossBreed line or pvc coated floating line is mainly for dry flies. While a level line is going to be the best option for nymphs/tenkara flies. While all of the lines can do all of these things, they do work best when using them for their specific purpose. Hope that answered some of your questions!
If you apply a paste to furled line, are you stuck with a floating line?
It will keep it floaty for a while but at some point you will have to apply more.
So should my line be as long a my rod including the tip it on the end or should the tip it be added on to the length making it longer then the rod?
There is no exact way to do it, but it's mostly preference. I think a sweet spot is having a line about the same length as the rod or a little bit shorter, with an extra 3-4 ft of tippet. So the overall line might be a few feet longer than the whole rod.
great vid Kudos
So if I have a 12' rod should I use a 10' line with 2' of tippet or 12' line and then add tippet? Thanks
12 ft. rod I would go with a 10 ft. line and then anywhere from 2-6 feet of tippet depending on what you feel comfortable with. That would be a good place to start. Play around with different tippet lengths until you find your sweet spot. And then if you find you want a little bit more line 13 ft. works great for fishing lakes or ponds.
Thanks for the response. Copy that. Keep up the videos
I bought the 12” Fat tire rod combo. It seems that it doesn’t cast as far as it should. Would changing my line help with that?
What type of water are you fishing with it? You can definitely use a longer line if you need to cast farther.
What about shorter rods? I've got a 12ft hellbender but I picked up a 5ft rod for the tighter spots. What line would you recommend for the smaller one?
5 ft rod sounds fun! Go shorter on the line for sure. We make an 8 ft. line that would probably work for that size rod.
Where do you buy the cribari flys?
We sell kebaris on our website
Tenkara 12ft how long tippet to fish black bass,please
Bonjour de France
Hi Jean. It really depends on the water and how big of bass you are going for. You don't really want your line + tippet to be too long because then it becomes more difficult to land the fish. we recommend usually between 2-5 feet of tippet generally. Personally I just unspool the tippet to the length of my armspan or maybe a little bit less. But it is something you can play around with and figure out what works for you.
We’re talking academy award here!
haha thanks william!
I'm new to tenkara but I don't understand the need for a loop of backing, etc. on the rod end of the line. If you can tie a knot in it that holds the loop, why not just tie a loop in it to connect to the lilian? Thanks!
PS - hit the like button as soon as you said, "Do I look like I do yoga?"!
great question. you definitely do not need the backing loop it just makes it easier to attach to the lillian. the backing loop is really easy to remove also so if you wanted to just go line to lillian its a quick fix
When using the crossbreed line. How much of the line do you want in/out of the water?
Great question and it really depends. If you are fishing small creeks that are fast and the fish aren't that picky then you can keep it all on the water. But if I am fishing slower water to picky fish then i generally keep all of my line off the water and just allow a little bit of tippet to hit the water.
Which crossbred lines should I get for a while cloud and a Sierra
I really like the 8 ft. line for the white cloud and the 10.5 for the sierra.
What line to use in stronger current?
I guess that depends on what fly you are fishing with and what your goal is. If you want your fly to get down quickly then the level line cuts through the water the quickest and will put your wetfly in the right spot. If you are dry fly fishing then the crossbreed will do a better job at keeping your fly on top.
Is it possible to make a DIY crossbreed line, if you have the components on hand?
Yes absolutely! The only tricky part is finding the right diameter of PVC line but definitely doable.
Can you please find a Filson edtion rod kicking in the corner and sell it to me. Thank you.
we will have a look!
Are Tenkara flies consider wet or dry?
Traditional tenkara flies would be considered wet flies
Is the tippet included in your calculation for total length or are you talking about just the line and the tippet would be beyond the amount matching the rod?
Our line lengths are without tippet. Kind of the go to would be a 12 ft. rod, 10.5 ft. line, and then 3-5 ft. of tippet.
i have a 10 ft rod. what length crossbreed should i use?
I almost always opt for the 10.5 with that size of rod (unless I am fishing a lake then I might go 13 ft. Or if I am primarily fishing small tight water I might use 8 ft. line).
Excellent! New to tenkara and this removed the mystery that other TK fishermen like to attach to this ancient Japanese secret.
Why don't they keep it as simple as it really?
Glorified cane pole.
Thanks! While there are definitely a lot of nuances to Tenkara and different ways to go about it we like to explain things as simply as possible from our perspective and let others decide how they want to fish it. Cheers!
Ever try to collapse n put a Cane pole in your lunch box?
@@SDPBALLCOACH Also, ever weigh a cane pole. The comparison is tired and lazy. cane poles, crappie poles etc. weight 3x as much and have much different action.
@@BrettPrice1983
I don't doubt it. I've never fished Tenkara but it might be a good setup to carry in the truck behind/under the seat...
Even for pond/lakes in warm water areas...
@@SDPBALLCOACH It's absolutely amazing for this. And ditch fishing (in WI all water is public access so you can walk down into the ditch, then down into the river and fish it)
What's a Kebari fly?
Kebari is Japanese for "fly" we are usually referring to the Japanese style sakasa tenkara fly.
@@tenkararodco seems kind of silly to call it a fly fly. Why not just call it a sakasa?
@@jonathanantunez7636 Well... yeah... when you put it that way!
Hahahahaha I'd Buy Your Product just from this Awesomenessss Video hahaha
Haha thanks!
how did you get a toyota Hi-Ace in Idaho?
They’re actually pretty easy to buy, import, and register these days
@@tenkararodco nice. i have had a few of them over the years to haul MX bikes/camper conversions. my favorite was my old Grand Cabin 15pax hiace. that thing was a beast.
Tuna…..you are a funny guy!
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What line do you suggest for tight line nymphing in say ~3-4 feet of water?
William Wojcieszek I really like the crossbreed line in that situation. Slap a little payette paste on the furled tip of the crossbreed line so it acts like an indicator and then go as deep as you need with your tippet. It’s just Deadly William deadly!
Tanner Flake that’s cool. So really, what’s the benefit of a specialized euro nymph rod over tenkara, just easier to land bigger fish?
William Wojcieszek there is really not much difference and that’s why Tenkara rods work great for euro nymphing. The long rod allows for a drag free presentation especially when tight line nymphing.
Be serious when you are doing your job
haha next time
Who needs a line keeper when you have two ears!?
Very good point!
If you really want to convince us you are a yoga dummy, you’ll need to wear the yoga pants. 😂
Haha we tried but TH-cam took it down!
tunas do yoga????
Weston B. K mon Weston... um yeah I am actually starting to do yoga because its pretty rad. Next time I will wear my yoga pants!!!
@@tannerflake163 yogas is the best everybody should do it
:D
Is he supposed to be funny?
Maybe just not taking himself too seriously...bit of an art 😏