Great video and idea! You can also use that fly line backing as a "level line". That's my preferred line type. It's an in-between option for standard level line and that pvc option. A little heavier than level line, but not saggy like pvc can be. I like it when I use a setup like a hopper/dropper.
This is the set up I use to teach the scouts in the Fly Fishing merit badge... It seems easier for them to learn to cast the level 2 and 3 wt level fly line than a lighter fluorocarbon fly line. I tie a 6 inch piece of 8# teat mono to the fly line with a nail knot and a loop in the other end. I attach about 3 feet of 4# test mono with a Loop to Loop knot to form my leader. Kids are pretty hard on "leaders" when learning to cast and while fishing ... having the loop to loop connection makes it quick and easy to switch a new leader for ones filled with wind knots. LOL. Good video.
Just heard about Tenkara fishing and have been contemplating this very idea of adapting some Western line techniques for windy conditions. Really happy this popped up on my feed. So maybe I’m not nutz. Would like to see a follow up video on how it’s working and what you’ve learned and any adjustments. Thanks!!
Good stuff! I've been using a similar setup with some of my stiffer tenkara rods. I found running lines in .026in (.66mm) and .032in (.81mm) that work with my rods. The .026in is the most versatile in longer lengths (longer than the rod) and I use the .032in on rod length or shorter lines, because it loads the rod easier and it is great for casting hopper-dropper setups and in windy conditions. I still like size #3, 3.5 or 4 fluoro lines with my light action rods.
Thanks! It's great to hear you are having success with this type of approach. I appreciate your examples of line diameter to rod characteristics and conditions. I don't have it quite that dialed in yet. I feel like I try to reinvent the wheel every time I build one, haha. Thank you!
Couple of questions: Have you tried going directly to tippet from the floating line? I'll be looking to use 5x tippet. Edited after re watching video and question answered ;) Thanks for the video, it was just what I was looking for!
Excellent modification. I usually use level line like most tenkara anglers. But I might give a try this line system. This is so simple which is great in unexpected situation, like sudden rain, wind or cold season which the fingers don’t corporate.
@@bryanjames1376 It worked great!! Much much easy to do the roll cast, which is very practical in over grown canopy area. I use sighter tippet to make it tapered.
@@GoFishingOften Thank you for your reply. I just found out this line system is perfect for smallmouth in the creek. They love big flies that were dragged by this flyline. The line slack is a huge no-no on trout fishing yet very practical on bass fishing.
Iv been using this for bluegill for years you can lay your line and rod out for extra distance and use the bright pvc line as your strike indicator. Not really tenkara but a fun and productive way to fish for panfish.
I’d love to see a close up or some with larger rope of the knots you tie. I understand the nail connection line to tippet, but the backing to floating line would be nice to see better.
2 questions....you only tied the tippet side of the nail knot. Are you relying on the knot staying tight by squeezing onto the floating line? And whats the purpose of the tippet ring? Don't you just tie the fly to the tippet? Great video by the way I just read the other comments and the answer to question 2 is that the tippet ring is on the leader, not the tippet.
Thank you! I'm not sure what happened to the links. It must have been an operator error on my part. I edited the description with the new new links, and it appears to be working. Thanks for letting me know!
I put a tippet ring on the end of the leader to make the transition to the tippet easier. I know many people don't like rings, but I use them because I'm not very good at fancy knots. Thanks for checking out the video!
an even cheaper option which works well for me is using 8-10ft floating tapered polyleader .( thin tapered coating over 10-20lb mono) In Western fly fishing they are used to replace tapered or tied mono leaders . In uk typical cost is £4-6 10ft polyleaders typically weigh 2-2.5 grammes (equivalent to 3wt fly line ) .
Hello . Je suis français et pêche au tenkara comme vous. Je voulais savoir d'où vient votre canne et quelle longueur fait elle ??? Merci pour vos réponses.
I'm new to tenkara and just purchased my first rod...it's a fat tire from tenkara rod co and it's purpose is for fishing mangrove snapper, grouper and snook... what combination would you use if you were me...20lbs backing with 15 or 20 floating line and 20 or 30lbs backing with 20 or 30lbs floating line for snook and grouper...I can use some suggestions... thanks
Thanks for subscribing! The backin loop I tied here is 2" in length, but it's not a critical measurement. Just make sure to account for it in your desired competed length. Does that answer your question?
They are our 1st Gen Tenkara Line Winders, which are no longer available. You can however gab a set of our new ZipWinder V3 on our website here: gofishingoften.com/product/zip-winder-v3s/ Thanks!
Best line option are those monocore lines uses in euronymph equioment. For stuff rid like the Tony ten the PVC coated one are relly a good choice cuse they cast better tua tradicional tenkara lines.
Tenkara es la técnica perfecta para río de montaña la cual permite pescar sigilosamente a variadas profundidades con una misma línea e incluso con una misma mosca y para nada se requieren líneas flotantes como en el western style. La clave es APRENDER la técnica
Great video and idea! You can also use that fly line backing as a "level line". That's my preferred line type. It's an in-between option for standard level line and that pvc option. A little heavier than level line, but not saggy like pvc can be. I like it when I use a setup like a hopper/dropper.
This is the set up I use to teach the scouts in the Fly Fishing merit badge... It seems easier for them to learn to cast the level 2 and 3 wt level fly line than a lighter fluorocarbon fly line. I tie a 6 inch piece of 8# teat mono to the fly line with a nail knot and a loop in the other end. I attach about 3 feet of 4# test mono with a Loop to Loop knot to form my leader. Kids are pretty hard on "leaders" when learning to cast and while fishing ... having the loop to loop connection makes it quick and easy to switch a new leader for ones filled with wind knots. LOL. Good video.
So glad you popped up in my feed today
Just heard about Tenkara fishing and have been contemplating this very idea of adapting some Western line techniques for windy conditions. Really happy this popped up on my feed. So maybe I’m not nutz. Would like to see a follow up video on how it’s working and what you’ve learned and any adjustments. Thanks!!
Good stuff! I've been using a similar setup with some of my stiffer tenkara rods. I found running lines in .026in (.66mm) and .032in (.81mm) that work with my rods. The .026in is the most versatile in longer lengths (longer than the rod) and I use the .032in on rod length or shorter lines, because it loads the rod easier and it is great for casting hopper-dropper setups and in windy conditions. I still like size #3, 3.5 or 4 fluoro lines with my light action rods.
Thanks! It's great to hear you are having success with this type of approach. I appreciate your examples of line diameter to rod characteristics and conditions. I don't have it quite that dialed in yet. I feel like I try to reinvent the wheel every time I build one, haha.
Thank you!
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Thanks man!
This is a great idea. I've and some line by fureling braid and seems to work well. But this is much simpler thanks for sharing.
Couple of questions:
Have you tried going directly to tippet from the floating line?
I'll be looking to use 5x tippet.
Edited after re watching video and question answered ;)
Thanks for the video, it was just what I was looking for!
Really could use a
close-up of the set up it’s hard to see from that distance!
Just found you. Subscribed. THX much. Cheers!
But thanks for the great info it makes sense!
Could you use the colourful fly line backing as a furled leader?
... try doing a half a rod length leader off a 24ft rod...
Aside from that, great info.
It would be nice to see how you attached the backing loop to the rod-end of the level line. I wasn`t able to see it clearly.
Excellent modification. I usually use level line like most tenkara anglers. But I might give a try this line system. This is so simple which is great in unexpected situation, like sudden rain, wind or cold season which the fingers don’t corporate.
how'd it work?
@@bryanjames1376 It worked great!! Much much easy to do the roll cast, which is very practical in over grown canopy area. I use sighter tippet to make it tapered.
Thank you! I agree things get tricky when your fingers don't cooperate.
@@GoFishingOften Thank you for your reply. I just found out this line system is perfect for smallmouth in the creek. They love big flies that were dragged by this flyline. The line slack is a huge no-no on trout fishing yet very practical on bass fishing.
Iv been using this for bluegill for years you can lay your line and rod out for extra distance and use the bright pvc line as your strike indicator. Not really tenkara but a fun and productive way to fish for panfish.
As long as your using a fly with a reel less rod it’s tenkara adapted your western use
I’d love to see a close up or some with larger rope of the knots you tie. I understand the nail connection line to tippet, but the backing to floating line would be nice to see better.
I NEED THE SAME HELP
good job bro
Thank you!
What Tenkara rod are you using? Can you share where you bought it from please? Thanks
Hey! It's the tiny ten, use discount code: TAKE5 tinytenkara.com/?ref=bxh9xzve8hp
2 questions....you only tied the tippet side of the nail knot. Are you relying on the knot staying tight by squeezing onto the floating line? And whats the purpose of the tippet ring? Don't you just tie the fly to the tippet?
Great video by the way
I just read the other comments and the answer to question 2 is that the tippet ring is on the leader, not the tippet.
Hello, can I find out the name of the rod that was used in this video?
It is a Tiny ten. Here is a referral link and coupon code if you are interested.
tinytenkara.com/?ref=bxh9xzve8hp
Coupon code: TAKE5 for 5% off
Thanks
Cool video. It appears the links only take you to the home page of Amazon instead of the items.
Thank you!
I'm not sure what happened to the links. It must have been an operator error on my part. I edited the description with the new new links, and it appears to be working. Thanks for letting me know!
Dude...great vid... can you post a link for the Tiny rod... I've searched but no joy maybe I have the name wrong!
Thank you! Here is an affiliate link tinytenkara.com/?ref=bxh9xzve8hp
You can use coupon code TAKE5 at checkout for 5% off.
How long the Leader?
Interesting.
Why do you put a tippet ring at the end of the tippet? Thanks.
That makes sense. I thought you were adding it to the tippet, not the leader. I use tiny tippet rings with no bearings.
I put a tippet ring on the end of the leader to make the transition to the tippet easier. I know many people don't like rings, but I use them because I'm not very good at fancy knots. Thanks for checking out the video!
Also what lbs leader material for both rig setups... probably using 1x tippet for snapper and x0 for grouper and snook... thanks again
an even cheaper option which works well for me is using 8-10ft floating tapered polyleader .( thin tapered coating over 10-20lb mono) In Western fly fishing they are used to replace tapered or tied mono leaders . In uk typical cost is £4-6 10ft polyleaders typically weigh 2-2.5 grammes (equivalent to 3wt fly line ) .
3 bucks here in the us
Hello . Je suis français et pêche au tenkara comme vous. Je voulais savoir d'où vient votre canne et quelle longueur fait elle ???
Merci pour vos réponses.
I'm new to tenkara and just purchased my first rod...it's a fat tire from tenkara rod co and it's purpose is for fishing mangrove snapper, grouper and snook... what combination would you use if you were me...20lbs backing with 15 or 20 floating line and 20 or 30lbs backing with 20 or 30lbs floating line for snook and grouper...I can use some suggestions... thanks
Subscribed. How long is the completed backing piece?
Thanks for subscribing!
The backin loop I tied here is 2" in length, but it's not a critical measurement. Just make sure to account for it in your desired competed length.
Does that answer your question?
PVC line 5 ft?
Whats the line keepers you have on that Tiny Ten?
They are our 1st Gen Tenkara Line Winders, which are no longer available. You can however gab a set of our new ZipWinder V3 on our website here: gofishingoften.com/product/zip-winder-v3s/
Thanks!
how much tippet do you usually run with that set up?
About 1' or so. It depends on what rod I'm using and the type of water I'm fishing. Thanks for checking out the video!
Looks like the crossbreed line
Best line option are those monocore lines uses in euronymph equioment.
For stuff rid like the Tony ten the PVC coated one are relly a good choice cuse they cast better tua tradicional tenkara lines.
Have any links?
my nail knots keep pulling out and stripping off the layer of my fly line any tips for stopping that from happening?
@@GoFishingOften thanks i got a tool that helps but i still get steelhead stripping off floting layer from time to time.
Look up using super glue and sliding tippet in to core of flyline.
Try putting a figure 8 knot at the end of the fly line if your nail knot is slipping. The nail not won’t slide past the knot.
Tenkara es la técnica perfecta para río de montaña la cual permite pescar sigilosamente a variadas profundidades con una misma línea e incluso con una misma mosca y para nada se requieren líneas flotantes como en el western style. La clave es APRENDER la técnica
Línea flotante no es Tenkara
Please don't forget braided lines!
How do I know which line reducer and hook keeper are on my rod?