THE TRUTH BEHIND SWISS SALARIES
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2021
- The average salary in Switzerland is indicated as CHF 6'500. Does it mean that the average worker in Switzerland earns around CHF 6'500? Definitely not! Check my video to find out why!
Please note that this is based on my experience and experience/knowledge of people I consulted before doing this video. There are always exceptions and different situations where what I say does not apply. Salaries in Switzerland depend on many factors and can vary a lot. What I suggest is to always check your case and not to rely on the "Swiss average salary".
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A good point of view why people move to Switzerland is not to become rich. But to avoid being borderline poor in their countries. So achieving a decent middle/high class is not a given. And most countries don't provide that. Even the "advanced" ones. And I believe you think the same coming from Italy. I think it's similar, coming from Greece.
Did you move to Switzerland?
Thanks for your honesty. Excellent video!
Thanks! 😊
Really interesting! Thanks for sharing. Something that isn't talked about enough.
You explained it extremely good, and it actually applies to other countries as well. People forget the ranking salaries are averages, and the top position salaries tend to distort that average. Some people complain that rankings should also reflect the median ones. On top of that, comparing is hard.. is it gross or net? And once that is answered, what does social security covers vs in other countries.
Thx for this eye opener.
Your video makes complete sense (and, like you said, not only in Switzerland, but, really, anywhere)!! So, what I got from watching your video, is that the middleclass salaries/wages in Switzerland are between CHF5000-8000/month; everything above CHF8000/month is income associated with the bourgeoisie, while salaries/wages between CHF2000-5000/month are income associated with immigrants, and the working class (and that a living salary/wage in Switzerland begins at CHF4000/month).
BRAVO ,HVALA NA ISTINI ❤
Very practical & informative. Actually I want to know from you that let assume that, if I would have a italian master degree(selected one from politechnico di milano) & will be knowing Italian say upto B1, being a construction professional (having 8+ yrs experience in India before master in italy & 1 year experience in Italy after master) would I be able to work in Ticino canton or any other part of Switzerland (let's consider will not staying long time in Italy after master & moving to Switzerland as get a better offer) based on English & Italian or I must learn German also (high or swiss)??
If you are going to live in Ticino I think Italian and English are sufficient. For the French part of Switzerland you need to learn French. For the German part of Switzerland it depends, in Zurich you might be good with English only but for the rest you definitely need to learn German. Swiss German is not something you can really learn, you need to learn high German first.
@@Italianabroad Ok thanks a lot 🇮🇳
if hes an indian panjabi mc guy english or german doesnt count. no gain in learning it. nobody will understand him xD @@Italianabroad
When talking about this numbers, you are talking about the salaries before or after taxes? Thank you!
Before taxes!
So true! I think many people assume that if you have a job in Switzerland, you are filthy rich. But in many instances this cannot be further from the truth!🙂 It's also sad to see the disparity between Swiss and foreign workers doing the same job.
I am living under 4k salary in switzerland and I am renting a studio... I always look for jobs but since I cant speak german almost everytime I get rejected...
thank you for the information
there's a reason why, when it comes to disclosing salaries, the median is a more effective indicator than the mean (average)
ENG Hi, what's the name of the website for checking in your salary? Thanks
IT Ciao qual è il sito per misurare se il tuo salario è appropriato?
Si chiama Glassdoor!
do big tech companies pay well in Switzerland for IT type jobs like they do in the USA?
Well, I don’t know how much they pay in the USA 😂 if it s a big international company then they pay well, a normal company I believe would give a normal salary. And then it depends on what kind of IT job, most of the companies I worked for, IT was not in Switzerland.
In the Philippines very different if you are a foreigner they going to love you to hire no question ask but if are a Filipino applying for a job in the Philippines you need to have a good school to be hire that why we have so many people working as a overseas worker
Thank you for telling us the truth about jobs and salaries in Switzerland. Greetings from Albania ! :)
Ciao, io ho una disabilitá visiva, sai se anche in Svizzera il sistema di inserimento per le categorie protette é simile?
Ciao! Mi dispiace ma sinceramente non lo so. Però una mia collega ha scoperto l’anno scorso che il figlio ha una disabilità e ha deciso di tornare in Polonia (il suo paese d’origine) perché in Svizzera non aveva gli stessi vantaggi del sistema sanitario/lavorativo polacco (abbiamo discusso e sono simili a quelli italiani), quindi penso sinceramente di no. Però con certezza non ti so dire, mi dispiace!
Di una cosa però devi tenere conto, la sanità in Svizzera non è pubblica ma privata, quindi qualsiasi problema hai, devi sborsare un sacco di soldi!
@@Italianabroad la sanita e pubblica in svizzera....gli ospedali cantonali accettano di curare anche chi non ha il diritto...e poi se ne fara carico il cantone, di sicuro se hai una disabilita nonhai accesso a tutte le tutele come se fossi nato, ma a parte di esse e dipende dal permesso di soggiorno.
you help me a lot thanx!!!!!
What salary should i ask for in a 2lv line of it support?
Check on Glassdoor, I am not familiar with this field !
Mam salary range for doctors in switzerland? Nice video.
www.google.com/search?q=doctor+salary+switzerland&rlz=1CDGOYI_enCH598CH598&oq=doctor+salary&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l4.5946j0j4&hl=en-GB&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
This is median salary which means that half the workers earn less and half earn more - it's not skewed by mega-high earners. For historical reasons it could be that the higher half has a higher proportion of Swiss. The exchange rate has halved for some currencies over the last couple of decades and this is why older Swiss workers (and some older non-Swiss) can be on a high salary. Foreigners are employed now on salaries which would be equivalent/attractive when compared to their foreign salary. When a company really wants a Swiss worker, it's likely that they have to pay more to attract that worker. It's market forces. Many foreigners jump at the chance of earning a salary which would be low for a Swiss person. It can easily be the case that foreign managers get employed on lower salaries than their secretary.
Anyone knows how much a mechanical engineer can earn per year with 2 years of experience?
Thanks for your help and advice madam please some information about bsc anesthesia and bsc neoroscience job opportunities
I am sorry but I don’t know about these sectors, it’s too specific.
What a good yearly salary for mid manager in Geneva would be?
I am sorry but I would have no idea for the French part of Switzerland! Depends on what industry anyway!
Genève is insanely expensive. A mid level manager there usually earns in between 8000-9000 fr. With experience you can reach 10,000. Above 10,000 is for higher lever manager who can earn upto 15,000 per month.
Is there an age limit to enter in the Switzerland workforce? Particularly in the teaching profession? Is there the possibility to get hired if I don't speak fluently any of the 4 Swiss official languages? But I am fluent in both English and Spanish...
Well it depends: if you are a teacher and you don’t speak any of the 4 languages then you have to find a job in one of the international schools. You have no other possibilities. How easy is it to find a job in those? Well this I really don’t know! I don’t believe there is an age limit, Swiss people start to work very early, but then if you are close to retirement it is more difficult to be hired.
@@Italianabroad: thanks so much for your prompt response... I tried some international schools but I don't think it is easy - I see them as more as a "who you know" and not your Resume... But I think that once my qualifications and experience are officially recognized by the Swiss authorities I may have the chance for an English speaking job in other settings (international business offices, etc.) What do you think? :)... or if I want to market my crafts, and fashion creations as a self employed, how could I do that?
I honestly didn’t get my education officially recognized, I think it’s more based on your experience. But I am not sure if I’m some specific business you must have your education recognized. As for self employment I am afraid I cannot help you with that as I don’t have enough knowledge about that!
What Swiss regions have the best/highest salaries?
Zürich and Zug !
Da greco il mio sogno è vivere in Svizzera, con questi termini. Grazie tante.
As a greek my dream is to live in Switzerland, even by these terms. Thank you a lot. 🇬🇷🇮🇹❤️
As a Greek in Switzerland I don’t see why this is a dream, it is just across the border (if you live in Italy).
@@annas4843 I live in Greece currently and the cost of living, the high house rents and the bureaucracy makes very difficult for somebody to immigrate there.
@@manolissar1034 depends… do you expect to have a fully furnished house from day 1? Do you expect gold will grow under your balcony?
It’s not like that. And there is not really so much bureaucracy, not at all if you compared it to Greece 😅
I arrived as a student here, first trip for interviews and then 2 weeks later to settle. I had few hundred euros in my pocket and not really knowing what I will find or how long I will stay. I was waiting for my first and second intern salary to come in to pay deposit for a house, third salary to buy some basic furniture and so on. Months passed and now it’s been already 6 years since that day…
And how long it took me to get a permit? 20mins for first B permit, 10mins x 2 visits for the permanent C permit. Ofc you need a job offer in place for the system to work that fast..
@@annas4843 The last one maybe is the most difficult part. Anyway thanks for the information. 👍
@@manolissar1034 ….and that explains why simple reality remains a dream for you.
I doubt it really helped you at all, as you missed the point. But cool.. 👍
Ciao mi piacciono le tue video perché spieghi molto bene e chiaramente pure
Io vivo in Italia ma vorrei cercare un lavoro in Svizzera però ho il permesso di soggiorno italiano , non so se riuscirò a trovare qualcosa in Svizzera e ho 21 anni con due anni di esperienza nell’ambito metalmeccanico ; faccio elettricista
Ciao! Sono contenta che i miei video ti piacciano! Col permesso di soggiorno italiano non puoi cercare lavoro in Svizzera. Devi essere cittadino di un paese europeo. Altrimenti deve assumerti un’azienda Svizzera e dimostrare allo stato Svizzero che nessun’altro cittadino europeo può fare il lavoro che fai tu. Non è impossible ma è molto più difficile!
@@Italianabroad grazie mille bon allora mi arrendo , questo sogno di poter trovare un lavoro lo lascio volare allora . Grazie davvero che mi hai risposto
Are software engineers considered to be highly paid the same as bankers ? I’ve seen average salaries around 8000 CHF per month, after taxes, (canton is Ticino)
Yes, it can also be combined if you work in IT in the banking industry.
A middle level software engineer is around 120000 gross year salary. which is 10k per month. Forget about Ticino, which has the lowest salaries in CH. Zurich is the place to be for an IT guy
120K CHF per year seems really sad for a software engineer. And then you have a 45% tax on that. Google, Amazon and other companies here in the USA start at 200-250K USD minimum right out of college in the Bay Area, Seattle etc
You don’t have 45% of tax here in Switzerland. You can’t compare a USA salary with a Swiss one. 120k a year is a very high salary.
Wts the nurse salary freshers as u know? There.. In Swiss plz rply..
www.jobs.ch/en/salary/?canton=ch&term=nurse
www.payscale.com/research/CH/Job=Registered_Nurse_(RN)/Salary
www.salaryexplorer.com/salary-survey.php?loc=210&loctype=1&job=865&jobtype=3
As far as managers making more than standard employees, it is the same all over the world. The Swiss had an initiative to restrict the difference, but the Swiss said NO, because in the other countries there are no restrictions and they felt that qualified people would leave. If you go into banking, there is a higher salary, but that is your choice when looking to get into a profession, just like doctor, lawyer, teacher, dentist... so if you don't earn as much, maybe you should change professions.
It is true that most Swiss are not rich, but with 6,000 - 7,000 francs you certainly have a comfortable life. Swiss also get 4 weeks vacation and a 13th salary at the end of the year, taxes are relatively low at around 20% as well and the quality of life is high.
Not everyone gets a 6-7k salary, this is a very good salary in Switzerland. Most people are around 4K.
You forgot to say something about the so called " prestation complémentaire " which means that you pay very little in taxes and at the same time you get benefits.
It is not true that the salaries are not known ... I worked for a company where someone took the EXCEL listing of all salaries and gave it to everyone else working there !
At the end of the day it is not the salary of Fr. 6,500,00 that makes the difference when rent is Fr. 2,500 in Suisse and Fr. 1,000.00 in Italy or France. It costs a lot more in Suisse.
Do Swiss people get paid 13 months?
Normally yes!
You are very special nice video.
6500 CHF brutto ir netto? Thanks
Brutto
and how much will you have on your hands after taxes? if your salary is let's say 5000?
In a year you will have to pay more or less one and a half month salary in taxes. So in one year you would have to pay 7500-8000 chf of taxes.
@@Italianabroad thx
True talk
Hi, i have an opportunity to go to work to Zürich. I am a Technician in perception systems. Im living in Munich right now, and i earn 47.000€, my wife earns another 30.000€ let´s say... They offer me 60.000 francs... do you think it is fair? i can speak spanish, german, english and italian, and i have almost 4 years of experience besides im 22... i think it is not enough, and what worries the most, is making my wife leave her job, and struggle to find something in switzerland ( she just speak spanish )... i just want a good future for her.... should i try to negotiate my salary? Cheers... hopefully can you help me
60000 chf a year before taxes? This is really a bad offer. I would say you should earn 90’000 but I am not sure what exactly your job is so I can’t really be sure. But Zurich has the higher salaries and higher costs of living. Did you try to find your company on Glassdoor to see the salary range ?
If your wife just speak Spanish it will be difficult for her to find a job. She needs at least to speak English at a very good level. Is the company relocating you or did you find the job offer on your own? If they are relocating you, you can ask a higher salary to compensate for your wife.
@@ItalianabroadYes, before taxes. I saw similar jobs on glassdoor, and all of them exceed 70.000... i find the offer and they offer me this salary after 3 interviews. They didn´t even asked me if it is fair for me. I sent already an email telling them that the salary is too low imo
@@Italianabroad i think 5000 francs after taxes is a fair number
@@Italianabroad Hi, i want to let you know, that i renegotiate my salary, and i reached 15.000 chf more, which i find fair, thanks a lot for orientating me!
This video reflects a very typical Italian view of the world. Italians often see themselves as victims, it's always someone else's fault and nothing can ever be done about it - it's the "system" (alternatively, replace "system" with "the state", "the government", "the managers", "the mafia", "the bankers", "the capitalists", "the politicians", "the rich" or "the Swiss"). You'll notice how she segments the Swiss society into exactly these classical Italian, socialistic frames of reference.
Of course, when people socialized in dysfunctional societies migrate into highly structured and highly competitive societies like Switzerland that are heavily oriented towards free markets, individual responsibility, national identity, conservatism and self regulation (i.e. direct democracy), they have problems to adequately analyze the new reality with their earlier acquired frames of reference and thus to create successful strategies for adapting. A country with 4 national languages(!), 26 federal states that each have their own CONSTITUTION, their own parliaments, their own laws and even their own tax systems does NOT have a "salary system", there are no "hidden forces" at work and no conspiracies are being enacted by the nasty "people in charge".
There are many videos of immigrants to Switzerland that seem to have a much more realistic view of the complexities of salaries in Switzerland than this one...
😂😂😂 and you are the typical Swiss I must say!
@@Italianabroad Glad you liked it. 😂
Glad you liked my video 😉
La Svizzera può essere anche costosa ma penso che, se fai attenzione, qualcosa a fine mese ti rimane in tasca.. poi se si lavora in 2 penso sia ancora meglio. Fammi sapere la tua!
Si, se hai uno stipendio medio comunque riesci a vivere e metterti via qualcosa. Vivere però significa non mangiare fuori tutti i giorni, o andare dall’estero sta ogni settimana... bisogna fare attenzione. Se si lavora in due è meglio perché dividi le spese dell’affitto quindi in tasca ti rimane molto di più!
@@Italianabroad un'ultima tua opinione: com'è dal punto di vista lavorativo essere un dipendente lì? nel senso ti "spremono" di più che in Italia? c'è un clima sereno in ufficio? ci sono momenti di chiaccherate con i colleghi? colleghi che ti aiutano? etc.
Dipende, in generale gli orari lavorativi standard sono meglio dell’Italia, si inizia presto la mattina, mezz’ora o un’ora massimo di pausa pranzo la alle 17:30 sei a casa e ti puoi godere la serata. Però mi sono trovata in situazioni in cui lavoravo 15 ore al giorno quindi dipende dall’azienda. Però i colleghi di lavoro rimangono colleghi di lavoro e non amici, non si esce la sera insieme, spesso non si pranza neanche insieme. Il clima/chiacchiere dipende ovviamente da dove lavori.
What a lovely girl! Man...Switzerland is the ideal but really...my dream is to live in Italia , maybe is because im Argentinian but despite the struggles Italia goes through, everyone still lowkey knows it's an amazing place spilling prestige all over it.
Are 75k chf in Zug ok?
It depends which industry but in general is a good salary. Zug had low taxes
@@Italianabroad grazie, si tratta di fintech ed é una multinazionale americana :)
In belgium everyone earns the same
Nationality doesn t matter
1000 annual gross salary difference is nothing :) I can say that for the same position there can be a difference up to 10000fr
I mean monthly salary 🙄
@@Italianabroad oh that's a lot then 😉
Salaries depend on many things. If you have a high qualification as a physician or maybe a scientist - and from Germany - you can get even a higher salary as a Swiss Native! That makes Swiss colleages sometimes jealous.
Yes, I have realized that not many Swiss have a high qualification, like phd etc, so most of the time high qualified workers are foreigners.
This video isn't quite accurate concerning cross border workers. If they earn less it is because they are taking advantage of a lower cost of living in their own country and commuting, it is their choice. As an member of Shengen, they could move to Switzerland, pay taxes in Switzerland and pay Swiss rent prices, then they would also get a salary equivalent to that of a person living and working in Switzerland.
It's true my dear baby
They should publish the median salary, not the average.
The cross border people can do a lot with the Swiss Franc in their own countries.
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I'm aiming to get at least an internship over there next year as a Data Scientist or any related titles.
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can i live with a 5.5k salary in St Gallen?
Yes, you can but it always depends on your life style.
It's the way it is. Go and work in Greece or India
Same old comment ..
Well done! It is good to say out loud how racists the Swiss are! Especially to foreigners who are MORE QUALIFIED than themselves… not to mention they made the foreigners pay more for the same objet or service, for example the car insurance is 30% more expensive if you are foreigner, if you ask money to the bank…guess what ? You have a bigger interest rate…and so on and so worth…at least now they let the Italians enter in the restaurants…which some 80 years ago was prohibited with prohibition signs at the doors!! Can you imagine?
Sorry, but as a Canadian who has lived in Switzerland for over 25 years and is married to a Swiss person, I think that this person doesn't really know wtf she is talking about. Not an authority on life in Switzerland that is for sure.
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That’s pretty terrible that foreigners are offered less. That should be illegal. My opinion about Switzerland just took a huge dive. Seems very backward.
When I hear expats, I would think of freelancer or remote worker who lives in cheap living expense countries. Now I have a different view of expats!
I didn’t know that!
"Expats", usually, means bourgeois/wealthy immigrants.
3:11 this is not true. i earned with 20 y old as a yugo 10k a month later even more 120 an hour (all social benefits) while i finished my studium and all the things. wanted to start a new one. my father cant read and write btw....
to me it is also an Anathema that grown people are still arguing with fixed numbers and dont show relative comperable numbers like the kaufkraft. the kaufkraft (dont know english word) is the only relevant kennzahl here. also im shocked that peeps actually are thankful in the comments that you can explain well that managers and swiss people earn more then the general foreigner....WOW SHERLOCK. like in ANY country in the wooooorld
Bankers earn enough money, they’ve got nothing to moan about.
This is *median* salary which means that half the workers earn less and half earn more - it's not skewed by mega-high earners. For historical reasons it could be that the higher half has a higher proportion of Swiss. The exchange rate has halved for some currencies over the last couple of decades and this is why older Swiss workers (and some older non-Swiss) can be on a high salary. Foreigners are employed now on salaries which would be equivalent/attractive when compared to their foreign salary. When a company really wants a Swiss worker, it's likely that they have to pay more to attract that worker. It's market forces. Many foreigners jump at the chance of earning a salary which would be low for a Swiss person. It can easily be the case that foreign managers get employed on lower salaries than their secretary.
I don’t totally agree. I’m Italian so I need to have a salary which is equivalent/attractive to the Italian one even if I have never worked in Italy but in Switzerland and live in Switzerland? I don’t talk about 8 years ago when I arrived, but still now and still when I am more qualified than my Swiss colleagues.
Switzerland has a relatively low population and has attracted rich foreigners for a few decades now, which resulted in switzerland having about 1 million millionaires. Which is about 15% of the population, 15% can certainly push up the median salary.
@@toffeeFairy Only under specific circumstances. It'll raise the cut point slightly.
What????? If you are doing a job in Switzerland, you will have to earn a Swiss salary. Why are you comparing it to the foreign salary??? Where are you going to pay the bills? In Switzerland or in your foreign country??? And if a Turk or an Italian or a Portuguese does the same job as a Swiss WHY should the Swiss earn more??? Can you explain please? Or are you a Swiss?