PSYCHOTHERAPIST REACTS to Ren- The Tale of Jenny & Screech
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PSYCHOTHERAPIST REACTS to Ren- The Tale of Jenny & Screech
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love this one. Only thing I don't understand is why 90% of reactors don't seem to understand at first that Screech killed Jenny. He swung his blade, and the statue that she was turned to butter, meaning she melted onto the ground, then he says she found a place to sleep, meaning she's left lying there on the ground, and when he says I guess she escaped, she escaped this world. Seems straightforward to me, lol.
It also surprises me how many seem to completely miss what Violet’s father did to her as a child. Just right over their heads at least 80% of the time.
he seemed to miss a whole load more than that....and yeah its pretty simple to follow...psychotherapist can't understand a metaphor....unbelievable !
@@GhostWatcher2024 Yes, as someone whose mind works a lot in symbolism and metaphors when thinking things over it can be hard for me to remember that other people have minds that operate very differently.
I find that people who pause a lot, don't get it. Maybe because they pause they interpretate themselves instead of just listening. Then they miss the clues.
Exactly, I don't get it how English-speaking people can't catch it. English is not my first language and it's not hard to understand. When people can't connect the twins, when Ren finish it with saying their names blows my mind
The way he goes in and out of character blows my mind. Chalk Outlines is a song with Ren and Chinchilla and is a great one for mental health content.
How to be me is also a very good song for mental health. The only thing I would say is that it was written just after one of his friends unfortunately committed suicide
@@Pip_Bear and performed on the bridge - which makes it real personal.
I'd also say "Insomnia" and "Depression" are another two very raw and honest songs he did about mental health.
@@Pip_Bear "How To Be Me" was written for his best friend who committed suicide
You did realize that Violet was their mom? I think you were so upset by the story you missed that. he said we must rewind the hands of time for Violets' tale. She was jenny and schrech mom.
I think he knows but just didn’t mention
a side note...Jenny and screech was released in 2019....Violet's tale set in 2005....jenny and screech were 14yrs old
@@888records I highly doubt that, Violet being Jenny and Screech'''s mother was the only thing connecting the third tale to the first two, so if he caught that he would have said it.
I thought it was pretty clear when he didn’t mention the reveal it was because it went right over his head.
Yup, honestly he missed EVERYTHING, except the walls where white. I've been subbed to this channel since the beginning, but I dunno if he's just trying to do too much with the marketing and spreading himself out too much to capitalize on the success, but it's almost like he doesn't pay attention to 90% of the videos now. What drew me in was the claims of a mental health professional and the expectation of reactions from that perspective seem to have dissipated. Some of the easiest/most obvious breakdowns of people like Ren, or Bo Burnham, he's just watching to watch (and the obvious, views), and it really is disappointing because fans of individuals like Bo and Ren are often times looking for that connection, that someone out there understands them. Something you'd hope to draw with a 'mental health professional". These reactions sometimes do more bad than good.
I don't mean to be critical, and he'll never read this anyways, but the way this channel was built to draw in a specific type of viewer, seems to be extremely insincere. He's getting that bag, so good for him But I am critical, because not only did he catch any of the obvious things, that Rend just SAID straight up, there wasn't any breakdown and/or making connections between the non-obvious. Things like how we learn about Jenny and Screech, and their behavior, and how you find out later they were reflections of their parents. Jenny/Violet both silent and dominated individuals, whereas Screech was the loud, violent antagonist just like his father. Literally SO MANY things to breakdown from a mental health perspective, and we get "sheesh it's a lot to take in", like yea man that's why we are here. Anyways, for anyone still reading this, I'm sorry for rambling.
Amazing how many reactors miss the fact that Jenny's been murdered by Screech at the conclusion of Jenny's Tale. I have to admit it took me a second to recognize the symbolism when Ren as narrator poetically alludes to her passing, saying she "found a place to sleep on the cold concrete" and "I guess she escaped.' He was referring to an eternal slumber releasing her from her unhappy life, albeit in a sad and heartbreaking way. As someone who loves lyricism and storytelling in music, I have to say Ren is a top-notch manipulator of the English language in addition to his incredible musical talent.
It’s the way he says Sleep with a over pronounced P suggesting it’s a forever sleep. If you listen to all the other times he says sleep it’s just normal.
Yeah he definitely pronounces that sleep more intensely to make it clear that he does not mean it literally
Ren's mastery of language puts him up there with the likes of William Shakespeare, Edgar Allan Poe, Lord Byron, and John Milton just to name a few that come readily to mind.
I don't know why to be honest, i feel like its super clear, but i've seen a couple of reactors go back a couple of times and still not understand the words...
@@Asperibra maybes as simple as they just ain’t picking up the accent there. I don’t even think he has a strong accent at all tho but 90% of American reactors don’t understand him and need lyrics. Maybe they don’t get the ‘the statue she was turned to butter in a breath’ 🤷🏻♂️
I think you missed the fact that Violet 's twins were Jenny and Screech(James).
The videos are filmed in the North Laine and the Lanes in Brighton. Jenny’s and Screech’s tales are filmed in what was the area of Brighton known as Pimlico that no longer exist - slums demolished (well documented for abject poverty) on repeat over the centuries, much of the area is now a car park, the back steps of the car park is where Screech’s Tale starts). Orange Row continues to be a Street art sweet ever changing spot. About 400m from the Royal Pavilion - a place Queen Victoria is reported to have sold the local council (a different title at the time) for £1. Brighton has affluence, art, pleasure, desperation and abject poverty on full view all the time.
An apology for my clumsy thumb and small screen typing.
Palace not place.
The Pavillion was sold to the forerunners of the council for £53,000 in 1850
This is so cool! Thank you for this information😊👍
I taught myself to play classical guitar when I was eleven, 48 years later am still a beginner and in awe of people like Ren who can just do it😁
This was all filmed in Brighton England where Ren is from.
Ren has a video where he does all 3 songs live with a 4th one thrown in that fits with the trilogy in a event he set up in one of the alleyways he filmed the original videos. Hundreds of people were there and Ren was blown away by the turn out.
Jenny and Screech are twins (they didn’t know it.) Violet was their mom.
I am so glad to see more from Ren on here your channel. I haven't heard a song from Ren that I haven't liked yet. The emotion were so real, and raw. His music hits so hard but oddly gives me a sense of hope
Thanks so much Leslie!😊👍
Violet was Jenny and Screech’s Mom. They were adopted and didn’t know they were twins.
This tale is so tragic. It reminds me of a Shakespearean tragedy. A few things that I've picked up on from various watches and reactors.
Jenny, like her mother Violet, is not in a good place. At 14 she is out walking the streets of London in the middle of the night in high healed shoes. Something she has done a 1,000 times. This could indicate she's working the streets.
Screech, like his mother Violet and sister Jenny doesn't have a good home life. He too is out walking the streets of London at night at 14 resorting to a life of crime.
One line that caught my attention this time was talking about the Devil wanting Screech's soul. It said "the Devil's come to Dance. But Ren over emphasises the S sounds at the end of dance, sounding almost like a snake hissing.
Edit: I was just rewatching and realized it's not when the devil is wanting Screech's soul, it's before Violet gets beaten.
Something I read was that Ren explained in Screech's Tale when he knocks on Patrick's door but Patrick isn't home so screech calls his girlfriend but she is busy, she was busy fooling around with Patrick thus why he wasn't home.
And lastly, something I didn't pick up on was in Violet's Tale the line "London city, far from pretty, 2-0-0-5", the 2-0-0-5 is referring to the year 2005 not like a zip code or address. The trilogy was released in 2019 so 2005 was 14 years earlier. Jenny and Screech were 14 years old. Foreshadowing that the twins were Jenny and Screech.
@MrNiccholas "One line that caught my attention this time was talking about the Devil wanting Screech's soul. It said "the Devil's come to Dance. But Ren over emphasises the S sounds at the end of dance, sounding almost like a snake hissing. " I just wanted to comment - I also heard this! Well spotted! Good on you for spotting it. It shows the depths of thought that Ren put into the writing & production.
@@MarkTomblin Hadn't picked up on that before. The planning in it is so good, the timing to be in specific places at the right moment in the song, like when he used the acoustic's to echo up the stairwell for example at just the right part in the song.
It wasn't a trilogy until Violet's tale was released in July 2022, three years after Jenny and screetch's tale.
@@Dog_will_hunt interesting! I just assumed they all came out together. I just recently discovered Ren from a reaction to Hi Ren and am still working my way back through his videos. Problem is I keep getting stuck on videos that I have to watch over and over because they are so good and deep!
@@MarkTomblin I've probably watched Ren's video 20 times and 20 different reaction videos and this was the first time I heard this!
It relates to mental health....domestic violence and how the cycle perpetuates.
Also note that he is recording these live in one take.
Thank you Rosco 😊👍
This is a modern day Shakespearean tragedy.
In his Live shows he goes into more detail... like Jenny being a street walker, getting stopped by the cop Richard!
Also... Patrick doesn't answer because he's Busy with his girl... the one he calls, being told she's Busy!
He catches them... flips out... kills Jenny, then gets himeslf killed by the Cop, Richard, that his girl called when she got caught with Patrick!
There's more... but I'll save that... as I see him making part 4... Richard's Tale!
Maybe... Perhaps!?!
Artist , capitol A, nothing less!!
Ren portrays each character and the narrator of his stories. Plus walking, plus play the guitar. Talent just pure talent
I've gone through most of Rens back catalog both solo and with his band. I'm stunned at his creativity. I truly think he's one of the best overall musicians I've ever known. I hope he comes back from his treatment in Canada a new man.
Screw that we're keeping him!
All three were filmed in Brighton, Ren's home town. There are a lot of back alleys like this covered in graffitti, some ares aeas are done by pro's and attract photographers. It is tghe nearest big town to me and it is fun recognising the locations in Ren's videos.
He must have filmed these late at night though as I have never seen them empty!
Ren lives in Brighton a extremely well known seaside resort for 100s of years. Ren uses Brighton in alot of his videos, so this is filmed in Brighton which is on the south coast of England.
Ren has explained that Patrick was at Screeches girlfriends house that's why she said he could not come round. It's amazing that Ren has more of a story within the trilogy.
Great reaction 👍 been waiting for you to do this
Ren the modern day William Shakespeare pure genius many thanks for a great reaction love and respect from the UK 👍👍👍👍👍👍🌟😀😀 amazing channel 👍
”The statue that she was turned to butter in a breath.”
Did you even catch that Screech unknowingly murdered his twin sister? The one single thing connecting Violet's Tale to the other two tales was Violet being their mother, and it seems you totally missed it.
It seems to me that they were separated at birth.
@@crystal95405Correct. thus "unknowingly" since they never met.
“The Tale of Jenny and Screech” is truly a modern day Shakespearean tradgey.
It's Brighton in the uk, the song however references London City!
My intuition has never failed me. And I grew up walking the streets of NYC at all hours, early mornings for work and very late after a night out. And in NYC our bars don’t close until 4am. The one time I was off my game, I got mugged. Learned never to ignore that niggling feeling again. Since then I have ALWAYS followed my gut and kept myself safe that way. It’s something my mother instilled in me and I’ll forever be grateful for it. If something feels off, it is.
Almost everyone is so blown away by the end of "Violet's Tale" that they never even think about the fact that Screech's girlfriend and best friend, Patrick were both "busy" at the same time. WHY? It adds a whole other layer to the story. Also how the twins who were born on the same day, also died on the same day...without ever knowing each other. Full circle. Side by side and one street apart. Musical GENIUS.
because it's complete conjecture, and IMO, simply trashy....but that's just me.
true enough, they were both busy, however never once did the artist himself, WHO ACTUALLY WROTE the entire piece, ever even allude to them being "busy" with one another. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
PLEASE, JUST STOP. 🙏🏼
THIS literary narration excellence, not white-trash theatre (and I'm fully Caucasian, from the Appalachian mountains. SMALL town, East TN, to be specific ....so don't even go there with me on the issue of "white trash theatre. i know it well. I've LIVED it).
postulating such a narrative as you have here is, as they say in my "neck of the woods" TACKY, at best.
And who noticed what Screetch said right before the phone call to his girlfriend?
...with something far more sinister in mind does await
he has skills....love him
not gona lie i was expecting you to comment about patterns, from generations
You should react to Watsky - Talking to Myself. And maybe the tiny glowing screens trilogy
So Jenny and screech are brother and sister. The surviving twins from Violets tale. We don’t know how they were separated or was he so out of his mind he didn’t recognize her. She froze like her mother violet and he killed his sister just as his father did their mother. Nature nurture it all such a shame!!
their mom died, their dad probably went to prison for her murder, they probably were put into the system, separated as often is done. The story shows the vicious generational cycle of dysfunction - Violet being abused as a lil girl, her leaving home at 16, her being abused by her boyfriend, her dying tragically, Schreech having his father's temper, Jenny walking on the streets at 14, both dying tragically. :(
So other than missing most of the main points of the story well done, great reaction! lol
The most impressive part is that no one went out shouting at them for screaming late at night lmao.
There is no one like Ren just love him so much ❤❤
I do too. I have a maternal feeling for him! I love his music, but love him as a person even more.
Thanks for seeing it from the victims from of view, you are a true professional
Perhaps it was to much watching of Soap operas' with my mother when I was younger, but The moment when he sings about Violet, Asking the Doctor to save her Babies. I knew what was going down.... great reaction.
Loved your reaction. Your intelligence goes hand in hand with your compassion 👍❤
Totally awesome and beautiful reaction bro. Thank you
Thank you for reacting to Ren. I've had a hard time with the trilogy in the past, too. I loved the music and the creativity, but the story made me feel sad and confused (when I listened to it for the first time, I wasn't even able to get through it), and hearing that last sentence of Jenny's tale made it all feel even more tragic (not sure whether you caught it?).
When I listened to this reaction recently, it made things fall into place for me, and it reconciled me with the trilogy. It was pretty eye-opening. th-cam.com/video/NiAe7GguSxc/w-d-xo.html
I'd love to see you react to more of Ren's work! I'd be especially curious to hear your thoughts about Depression and Insomnia.
Great reaction thank you ❤
Thanks for doing this one
Did you get the story? Your reaction leaves me to believe no. Screech kills Jenny--The police kill Screech---then Ren rewinds time from 2019 to 2005 to tell Violets tale--Violet is killed by Stevie after giving birth to her twins who turn out to be Jenny & Screech who were obviously raised separately and Screech didn’t know he was robbing and killing his twin sister Jenny.
LOVED your reaction, Tom.. as always! Hope you get around to one called 'Chalk Outlines'. I'm stuck on it for now. it hits me hard in the feels. 🎶💖🤗😎💜🔥
6:09 "I don't even know what ended up happening between the two of them" - wtf dude, did you even listen to the song?!?
Screech reached for the sheath of
The *blade* with the teeth
That could bite through steel
And slice concrete and he *swung* possessed
With the devil in his chest
And the statue that she was
*Turned to butter* in a breath
It was a quiet dark night on an empty street
Somewhere in London city
*Jenny laid still on the cold concrete*
"that's what we're going to find out next" - nope, I can't... this is... nope!
YOU NEED TO DO VIOLETS TALE AGAIN
This is Brighton S coast UK about an hr or so from London. This area of Brighton is kemptown I think with all the graffiti. But he also uses an area called "the lanes'
"European OR German town" lmao, yeah in the foreign land of Germany that resides somewhere, I've heard tales of Germany, but never believed it actually existed! Just kidding, though it was funny to hear it like that, but then again it's always funny when I hear Americans talk about Europe and how little about it they know in general. I see others already informed you that it was shot in Brighton.
What I found so interesting in this story was that the central character in all of this insanity, in Jenny's mugging, James (Screech) being a victim of the streets and killed by the police at 14, then learning even earlier than that when Violet was raised and left and abused, all of these things happened and all of these people were victims of London itself. He talks so much about the fact that London city and downtown zip codes of London, all the things that happen, but like they happen all the time. He's talking about these tales and the thing tying them all together is London itself. IDK, maybe I'm reaching, just something I thought about during the video.
2-0-0-5 was the year not zip codes.
@@stevenmeyer9674 okay
@@patriciahughes7516 you are right tho this kinda stuff happens daily. London in fact all of Britain ain’t as pretty as it’s always painted out to be especially the last decade and it only seems to get worse
He said London, But I think it could be any city anywhere. And London is actually less likely as the setting for this particular story, If for no other reason than as a rule Police in Britain don't carry guns. That is not to say it couldn't happen in London just less likely than some of the worlds cities,
@@imswat890 I'm not saying you're wrong, I understand your points. I just think, from what he's saying, that my statement holds truth. And yes 2005 as a year rather than a postal code is much more logical.
Ren went to School for Music.
It’s Brighton
Its in Brighton..where he filmed this👍😎
.... Did he not get that jenny and screech were siblings...?
Brighton UK
Her baby (babies) were Jenny and Screech. They are all connected
Ren 🥰👏👏👏👏
Thanks for the reaction, but just go bk and listen to the last 30 seconds of violet's tale, and find the crazy clever twist that ties all 3 tales together! 👍
Jenny and Screech is Violets babies
Looks like you didn't get Violet was there mum and screech killed his sister.
Rewind and listen to the last few lines.
Could you react to "Black smoke rising" or "Heat above" by Greta Van Fleet. They're a rock band that gives off classic rock vibes. I'd love to see your opinion!
He's a bard
It's almost like you're not listening to the lyrics he says London city, you ask "where is this", he clearly describes Jenny being murdered, and you ask "what happened to Jenny"
Clearly I have a lot more to learn, maybe it’s over my head😩
Try Ren ft Bibi - Crutch it’s a bit older and stunningly beautiful
It has always been a mystery to me the morbid fascination human beings have for the tragedies of life. Maybe they just long to feel something, with no distinction whether the emotion is positive or negative. Maybe they have an appreciation for the macabre and it's juxtaposition to their own stale lives. Or maybe it makes them feel a little less miserable about their own insecurity and inadequacy. I don't know, but I much prefer the message of HI Ren to this tale of dark irony, even though I can appreciate the artistic and talented performance of this song.
i, personally, gravitate more toward tragedy.
I've never attributed it to ANY of the reasons you hypothesized here. which, IMO, all feel more cynical than is normal....but what us normal 🤷🏻♀️ that's highly subjective, as well, i reckon.
i attribute the magnetism for tragedy to it's relatability. I can't imagine everyone has felt happiness, but I'd bet my life, EVERYone's felt pain....a most dour revelation, nonetheless a reality.
relatability.
@@deadassdgaf100 Sure, could be relatability. Although, it seems unlikely to me that most of the people gravitating toward the kinds of morbid themes such as depicted in this song enjoy it because they can relate. Can you really relate to a brother killing the sister he never knew he had? And I doubt that someone who could relate would want to be reminded of that trauma.
I'm not being cynical though, I'm genuinely curious. I work in mental health, have studied some of the psychology around these types of traumatic events, listen daily to stories that make this song seem like a weekend at Disneyland(bit of an exaggeration). Nevertheless, there is more to it than relatability.
Perhaps a more plausible theory might be that it connects with the darkness within ourselves, allowing us to explore those dark corners of ourselves without having to endure it in reality. A form of interfacing the shadow as Jung would refer to it. I honestly just don't know.
@@TheJohmac no. definitely not the morbid aspects heard here. i totally meant more generally speaking, so i get your point there.... but you did state "morbid topics" just generally.
@@TheJohmac your end point definitely based, as well. i resonate with Jungian philosophy. 100%
for me its because my dad was always overprotective growing up and taught me how to box and stuff in case I am ever walking alone. stories like jennys tale (and I study law so various cases) make me think what I would do in that situation to avoid getting hurt. I think thats why people watch true crime documentaries. can never be too prepared.
By the lack of reaction I can tell you did not pick up the twist at the end....Violet had twins at death....Jenny and Screech...thus, unknowingly, Screech killed his twin 14 year old sister and then died mere minutes later, one street away.
Don't know what happened,i thought he killed her she found a place to sleep... I'll keep watching...
I wish you wouldn’t have edited your actual reaction to the end after hearing “a girl named Jenny and a boy named screech” .
Hope you listen to tour patients better than you listened to this. You missed little things like that Screech killed Jenny, and the whole tragedy of the tales, that Jenny and Screech were the brother and sister twins of Violet.
he missed it......
I respect the work you do man but you should of said at the end you didnt quite get it! It took me a few playthroughs to understand that Violet was Jenny/Screechs mum.
There was no reacrion at the end, even surprise or uncertainty.. then it switched to a discussion. It seems any reaction was cut out.
I love watching your vids but it would have been less disingenuous to acknowledge you weren't quite sure and be genuine from that point
I was great with the piano but absolutely horrible the the guitar. I don't think Ren has don anything with piano but I'm sure he would make make plebs like us look foolish.
he plays piano and like you'd expect plays rather well above average
I'm really shocked that a psychotherapist is such a bad listener. He completely missed .... well everything. You should think a psychotherapist should get the little nuances, since it's his work. Very disappointing.
Educate me “oh wise one” or are you just wanting a platform to trash someone. What did I not hear after listening to this for the first time? Or do you just have an issue with mental health professionals?
My advice to you sir is this: stop putting yourself in positions you know you cannot get out of.
you seemed to struggle with the story, which is fairly easy to follow, and did you miss the whole twist at the end ?...a psychotherapist, really ?
Thanks for the healthy dose of bashing me. I’m sure Ren would approve!👍
@@ReactionTherapyOfficial very good, I see what you did there...i didn't realise that trying to make another person feel guilty was part of the therapist's handbook.
@Tony Mckenzie maybe you shouldn't be an A$$ hole. He's a psychotherapist, and a human. People miss things. He has every right to flip it back on you for coming in like one of the pricks Ren writes about. A little self reflection could do you some good.
@@Agispsi you seem very aggressive over very little...name calling, really ?
@@Agispsi thank you Chris 😊
and another listens but does not hear