To my great relief my psychiatrist assured me I am not any of these 3. I remember our last session clearly as he confidently diagnosed me as just an asshole.
There is a big difference between "anti-social" and simply "un-social." I think it's used incorrectly here. "Anti" and "Un" mean very different things. I am "Un-social." I simply don't Need to be around people, and I enjoy my time alone. I do Not try to prevent other people from being around each other, and I can enjoy small doses of People.
I dated a covert narcissist who was probably also a sociopath. He showed no empathy. Was deliberately mean & cruel. Was a pathological liar. He had me fooled in the beginning by love bombing me & being very charming. It wasnt long before he was constantly hurting me by gaslighting , ghosting me, blocking me & running away. Them woukd come running back a few days later. My mistake was every taking him back the first time. Made my life miserable for 5 years.
Narcissist are quite aware of peoples feelings. I’ve been around many of them. They just do not care. [CLARIFICATION: NARCISSIST ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES, and if they are impacted. I have been around two directly for 32 years and a coven of 20 for 10 years; all care about how they are “affected” & “effected”, not about the wellbeing of their “supply-victim”.]
This is precisely true. Many people don't know this about them but they are very aware of peoples feelings. They study people intensely they use your feelings to manipulate and abuse.
Yeah and they're cowards also. When you start giving them pain they run away like bitches because they care up most about they're own well being. Then they try to fuck u over behind your back in a sneaky way.
Narcissists will often go undiagnosed. They don't see anything wrong with their behavior, so why go to a therapist unless they want someone to hear their sob stories. If they're more of a covert type, they will be playing the victim anyway--everyone else is the problem. Right? Going to therapy with someone like that only gives them more ammunition to hurt you later. Please, be careful! Bottom line: Don't rely on whether or not someone has been diagnosed with any psychological disorder. Instead, ask yourself if they treat you well and with kindness. If they are toxic and harmful to you, the safer option of cutting your losses and moving on is often smarter. Why would you want to allow someone in your life to continue to mistreat you? If they are toxic, recognize that poor behavior and move on. Many who did not and thought they could help someone wish they did--including myself. Learn from our mistakes and save yourselves the pain of dealing with them because these people very often do not want to let you go once you are in their lives. Be careful. Be smart. Peace and safety to all...
Psychopathy isn't that hard to spot on kids. It's actually harder to spot on adults. Any kid can get weird at times but psychopath kids are weird all the time. They're usually extremely cruel to siblings and friends and unresponsive to punishment. Parents of such children often just pray for a change. It's a rare condition.
True because you lack fear, including the fear of punishment. Your thinking is completely goal oriented but your still dumb as a child. A lot of is actually experimentation not necessarily evil intent. As an adult you’ve learned how you’re supposed to act and feel so you can adjust your behavior. Therapy is a great learning tool for that. You can’t change it. Your amygdala works differently. And honestly you would not want to if you had it. The thought that you have no emotion is wrong. There is 5 basic emotions. Happiness, Sadness, Fear, Anger and Disgust. It’s the Sadness and especially the Fear that we don’t feel. Happiness is weak. Anger and Disgust we feel. I think I probably feel Disgust stronger than normal people. Anger took some time to control. I feel lack of fear is what people envy a lot of times. It’s definitely the main reason you wouldn’t want to cure it. The amount of scenarios of terrible things that could happen a normal person’s brain can come up with… no thank you. Mine doesn’t even consider a negative outcome. It definitely gives you an advantage in occupations that are dangerous and require logical thinking detached from emotion. Also usually very reward driven. Not all exhibit anti social behavior. There is a thing called well adjusted psychopath. Still doesn’t make you warm and fuzzy but unless you also have sadistic tendencies you care just as little to harm others than to help them.
When I was a child, I recall a few children, usually boys, who were very cruel to animals and even to insects, enjoying watching them suffer. I suspect now that they were psychopaths.
@@truthseeker3031 I never directed it towards animals. Always felt it was pathetic to pick a victim that much weaker than you, but I wasn’t allowed to be alone with other children. My condition was MOST obvious to everyone around at Kindergarten age. Still pretty bad in Elementary school, but you could have just thought I was a big bully by that age. Nowadays you could only tell in a life threatening situation. Been studied by doctors quite a bit because it’s extremely rare in females. To take pleasure in suffering makes you a sadist. It isn’t quite the same than lack of empathy. One is not caring, and one is getting enjoyment from it. You can have sadistic tendencies without being a psychopath, and you can be a psychopath without sadistic tendencies. However, if a psychopath has those tendencies they are MUCH more likely to act them out because they lack fear of the consequences of their actions. Those children who were cruel to animals were actually my preferred victims. Made me look like the hero to target “bad” people and made me feel superior at the same time. I was the Apex predator, that preys on other predators instead of prey. I prayed to get kidnapped by a serial killer when I was a kid, because I was convinced they would be my victim, and no one on earth would look at it as anything but self defense 😂
@@beatemuller3690 As I stated, they enjoyed suffering so they caused it; therefore, had no empathy. If a person has empathy, instead of CAUSING suffering, they try to prevent it and help the person because they actually "feel" for that person.
@@truthseeker3031 you are correct. If you enjoy causing suffering, you lack empathy. BUT you can lack empathy without enjoying to cause suffering. I just wanted to make that distinction because a lot of people mix that up.
I think it's narcissistic when a person constantly talks over top of others, constantly. I don't mean the occasional slip when we get too excited in a conversion. I'm talking about the people who do it every single conversation they have.
My ex was that way he would over talk me and his favorite thing to say to me was "you have no words here" or "you have no conversation here" especially when he was raging at me
Funny I’m a narcissist but I just leave people alone and just don’t talk at all because I have been called annoying and such so I just don’t even try it anymore
I noticed that with all kinds of narcissist that they are covered or malignant. Like you said there's nothing wrong with being excited about something that you accidentally talked over someone it's innocent you can kind of tell. But with a narcissist, they feel the need to always be right and when they see that you are getting the attention that they crave while speaking on certain subjects, they purposely try to drown you out with your loud talking even if you are valid in what you're saying. Even when they see that you're about to get a word in they will raise their voice and if your silent they'll bring their voice back down I noticed that. Most of the time when they're talking over you they're only doing it while you're talkin but if if you decide to be silent then they will break character if that makes sense. Because usually they're just repeating the same things over and over really loudly trying to drown out your logic but if you decide to be quiet and let them talk so they can look stupid, all of a sudden there speech will slow down and they'll get quiet too. A good example of this was a recording of a young rapper named Big latto versus Nicki Minaj. Go look it up I don't really pay attention to the mainstream like that but I happen to watch it one day and that's exactly what I saw. Nicki was trying to drown out the young lady's voice when she was making sense and asking her pertinent questions. The moment the girl decided to be quiet and let her talk Nikki speech pattern changed immediately once she heard her own self talk. They talk over people but they really ain't saying s*** is what I'm trying to say😅
You need to also remember that many people may appear to have one of - or two or three of - these three personality disorders. They may just have the traits and not be a narcissist, sociopath or psychopath. I was raised by a narc, so in my teenage and early twenties I acted a lot like one too, but once I realized I was acting wrong, I went to work changing myself to be better. Some times they don’t have the actual disorder, sometimes, they just learned and internalized their parents behavior
The "learned behavior" part was what the video said is the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath. The psychopath's illness is innate. The sociopath's is learned from his environment. I'm not saying you are either one. I am happy you got better.
Their is a criteria in the DSMV for diagnosing personality disorders and test have to be taken. They are also many co morbid traits and personality disorders such as HPD/NPD or the malignant narcissist with the dark triad or dark tetrad.
I agree. An individual might not really have one of these personality disorders. But might only have Narcissistic, Sociopathic or Psychopathic tendencies.
Narcissistic = I, Me, My! = Passive-aggressive = you are responsible for what's happening to them when your behavior does not model their expectations.
I agree with your Narcissist comment, they are all about themselves… and they love to make you think you’re going crazy, and they love adoration, and think of others as prizes or property… Passive-aggressive people hate confrontation, and instead of being assertive/arguing, they will agree or give the silent treatment, for example: play mind games, get even, damage the other’s property, etc… or they may agree with the other (if they care for them) and do what they demand for a little while and then resent the other, and instead of confronting the other, they avoid communicating and then act out in aggressive ways and when the other calls them out on it, the passive-aggressor will deny it was about them and blame it on someone or something else…
One doesn't have to be able to diagnose someone as a difficult personality. All they need to know is it's a spectrum of disorders. Cluster B personality disorders are all dangerous to a peaceful and fulfilling life and should all be avoided when possible.
Pay attention to how they treat others, If you are put on a path that they designed be careful. If they hurt others its just a matter of time before you get hurt too.
I have heard that when a person is dating they should observe how their date treats the wait staff. But I don't know if this is a legit way of seeing indication of the disorders discussed in the video.
Regarding the narcissistic, this is really vague and generalised information. For example, a malignant narcissist has severe and intentional impacts on those around them.
OMG there is so much wrong with the therapeutic community. It seems so many (like most med professions) are just in it for the money and like keeping patients coming back for more. I think "talk" therapy is a fraud. If a therapist doesn't start a patient on CBT, DBT or some other concrete method, they are of very little therapeutic value.
My own father was an example of that - a highly manipulative sociopath and a psychiatrist. My mom, who divorced him when I was 5, was of the opinion that many of those types go into that field to try to cure themselves. They like to sample the mind altering drugs samples given to them by the pharma-reps themselves too, which is another red flag, I think. - He also had his own mother (my grandma) addicted to psych drugs, which was highly unethical, and destroyed her life too in the end.
Five of my friends have degrees and or😢 careers as psychotherapist’s. One freely admits he pursued the field trying to figure himself out. He has worked hard to curtail his deceitful kleptomania, and has almost succeeded. His strategy is to tell close friends his problem to they could empathize and help him stay a normal course.Put himself into a career where there is nothing to steal but keeps his mind busy. Pleasant person to be around. The second had a career in the psych field which if anything damaged him further. Will not listen to those who try to help him. Hard to say if he is psycho or socio. Prone to periods of paranoia and rage against others. He is difficult to be around. Third quit the field as prominent therapist he says to maintainhis own sanity. Began a second, successful and happy carer as a carpenter. One of the most pleasant persons you will ever meet. 😂 The other two are outstanding human beings.
Sociopaths and Psychopaths are unpredictable. They can really succeed in business, probably because they don’t let pesky feelings or relationships get in the way. But they also have trouble understanding and fitting into society. They can become angry and have no limits.
People with these symptoms, including myself, need cognitive behavioral therapy or CBT. It changed my life drastically. Especially with close relationships.
Having nothing to do with any of these awful personalities is the most affective way to deal with them?! Most of us have gut feeling and we should go with that?? - Prevention is the key!
Antisocial traits would appear to exist on a spectrum.... and I honestly believe that when the majority of people use the word "psychopath" (similar to the word "addict") as a way of distancing themselves from these abhorrent behaviors.... as a means of telling themselves "I couldn't be driven to do these things, because they have this condition and I don't." .... It also doubles as a means of excusing our own mistreatment of them. When you tell yourself someone can't feel emotions, it suddenly becomes impossible to treat them too harshly. Im on the spectrum, and my mother is a covert narcissist. It bothers her that I don't like to read through her self-flattering small-talk scripts, she told herself that I was a psychopath, and then treated me like I have no feelings... for 30 years, without feeling bad about it. That's where I got this name from. I told a Dr. that I thought I was a psychopath, and he said "well if you are, you're sure are one, SOCIALIZED PSYCHOPATH. Same with addict.... and "addict" is simply a traumatized person, who first found relief in a substance or some other activity that releases dopamine. That's all.... they aren't born with it... and they are no different physiologically. That's hard for most people to accept.
I find this interesting because I tend to believe that people DONT think that ppl struggling with addiction are any different physically or physiologically. On the contrary, I think most think that ppl with addiction have a character defect, a morality deficit, if you will and nothing more. They're just "bad seeds" in the eyes of many or even most. They don't understand that ppl with addiction may have went through childhood trauma such as the loss of a parent at a young age, abuse, neglect, etc. They also don't realize that ppl may struggle with a condition that they end up trying to mask or "medicate" themselves for such as depression, anxiety or any other various condition. Just watch, I'm sure someone will disagree with me here and let me know that ppl who have a drug addiction problem ARE in fact, bad ppl and that they deserve no mercy on their souls. lol.
Sociopath and covert narcissist here, or rather, I should say one in recovery. I’ve found psychedelics and empathogenic drugs quite wonderful for healing and dealing with those issues.
Best wishes on recovery. I am glad you are working it! Yeah, the prospect that such drugs may be therapeutic is fascinating. I'm afraid the stigma attached to their use will mitigate much medical research. Hopefully over time their efficacy will be established. But if Big Pharma can't make big bucks on it don't bet the farm on their acceptance. Decriminalization would be a great start. But look how long that took for weed. Best wishes on all of that too, for you, Vickie.
Listen you know your thing obviously. But I know plenty of narcissist that do it not simply just to be admired, simply so they can get their way about absolutely every single thing that goes on with the people around them.
The best way to learn what a narcissist really is...Be raised by my evil mother. I'm 50 and I still can't handle relationships or trust anyone. I so resent what she did to me. She drove all my childhood friends away and loved to humiliate me in front of anyone I ever knew. When she ran out of ways to destroy me she held me back in school even though I was doing better than I had in previous years. I hope shes burning in hell if there is one.
Your not alone mate... I'm 56, and dad protected me from my covert narc mother. He died when I was 16, and then she began to let loose...finally left home at 21. My brother, 2 years younger, did not escape so easily... he's still an alcoholic today. Mom died 2014, and when I got the call from the hospital at 9:20 on a Monday, that she had a massive stroke, I took my time getting to the hospital. I arrived at noon, and she was reported as clinically brain dead by the emergency physician. I had no hesitation telling the Dr. to go ahead and take her off life support. I left the hospital for the nearest bar and ordered a single malt scotch, and felt grateful.
What kind of person NEVER no matter what denies everything they do to cause pain or embarrassment? What kind of person takes full control over another person? What type of person goes into a meltdown when they experience boundaries from another person and blames another person of being a narcissist for putting up boundaries?
I've had one of each in a "romantic relationship" capacity. The traits/behaviors overlap for sure. An experience with each will help you identify them all no matter the over lapping traits or lack thereof. The sociopath with narcissistic personality disorder was the worst of the 3...however, this helped me (along with research) figure out the other 2
@@JDawg271Your statement puts you in all 3 categories. But at least you don't mind outing yourself publicly. So yes there are partner types that these 3 traits of people go after. Just the same in how a person picks a comment to reply to, to victim shame and point out there overt good nature (the 3 types favorite victim supply) so if you think there something wrong with being a nurturing type person. Then that says more about you, than it does them. And I hate to break it to ya... but there's nothing rare about those types of people. I had one as a mother, my daughter just broke up with one... I have 2 cousins that are as well. And most people have interacted with one of the types and often just don't know it. So no, it's not rare at all. I think if you'd do real research and look up the numbers... you'd find that it's a lot more common than you think. Especially in this day and age.
Love the video. 1)Do you agree social media has been a narcissist dream come true due to all the instant gratification? 2) Is there another form/type of narcissist called malignant bipolar narcissist?
Thank you for your comment. As far as your first question, of course, instant gratification made possible by social media allows a narcissist to achieve instant gratification. We'll actually be covering more on this topic in a future video. For your second question, I would say that the term is not an official one. There are some key characteristics of bipolar and NPD that overlap, like being overly impulsive or setting unattainable goals. And some people could, in theory, have both. The overall agreement in the mental health treatment community is that it's people with bipolar disorder that have some narcissistic traits, usually during manic episodes. We're making a couple of videos on the topic of bipolar as well, so stay tuned. Thank you for watching!
Only a Narcissist would set themselves up with thier Own channel staring only themselves, talking about themselves, thinking they're experts on something to get you to follow them get addicted to following listening to them seeking constant praise admiration literally ASKING you to like subscribe to their channel . ... Seriously TH-cam is a Narcissist dream!
@@wellnesslenses. I look forward to discussions on the effects of social media with or encouraging narcissists. My son is dealing with his 15 year old daughter and her mother, she isolates herself with her phone and social media friends, while showing rudeness and contempt for her father while he attempts to have a relationship with her. We’re it not her daughter you would not give her the time of day.
My ex boyfriend is very clearly a narcissist while my ex best friend is a psychopath. I dealt with their abuse back to back and I haven’t been the same since.
Most likely they’re not and you’re just diagnosing. People can be assholes and bad people without being clinically mentally ill. You wouldn’t know for sure unless they went to an actual psychologist. People throw around these terms way too much without understanding how rare these disorders really are, lol.
I have been with 2 of the 3. Possibly all 3. My most serious relationships have been with a sociopath and a narcissistic person. Currently going on 5 yrs with the narcissist. We have a 2 yr old. We both have some mental illnesses and let me tell you, its hard. Hes my best friend and the love of my life but sometimes its too much. All ive ever attracted are narcissists, psychopaths and sociopaths. Its another con of being an empath. We are healers so we attract the broken
Princess Siren is the name of someone who's a pain in the ass- I hope your karma brings blessings all the same. Take accountability and learn whatever it is that you're supposed to learn while going through this
@@user-gp5yh7eg4z @user-gp5yh7eg4z lol waita jump to conclusions, im probably a pain in the ass from all the mental illnesses ive developed from bullies and abusers. Ima survivor hun. And im well worth it. Siren is just a stage name. Ima 'princess' because good ppl should be treated good and i dont get good treatment. Im an empath and a nurterer, im everyones mom. Im a healer so ima target. Ironic cus you legit just bashed me and you dont even know me. Are you a narcissist yourself? Lmao. i hope all the enlightment for myself, but saying i need to take accountability makes it seem like you know me and my situations and you fr dont. I have taken accountability time and time again, its those i interact with that need to take accountability.
@@user-gp5yh7eg4z as for my karma and blessings, yes i take all of it day by day. Its rough. Dont know why people do me so wrong, when i treat people so good
I've endured misidentification for the past year or so and at times I can barely take it. It's not my fault, due to the work that I did during the pandemic I wore a mask for 10 hours per day for 3 years. I lost a lot of my ability to express properly with my face and I very nearly lost my mind. I was a part of getting COVID tests out to the world, I gave my joy, my freedom and my free time in sacrifice in order to help keep people safe. The assumptions that people make are so painful and they must each be addressed individually which as an introvert I don't have a clue as to how to begin. People see in me a thing that they don't understand but it is anything but cruelty or a lack of conscience, I did what I did because I love people and now I just wish that even one person can see whom I really am. I am creative, I love, I hurt and I am alone and entirely misjudged for things that I must exhaustively explain. How do I get back from here? How do I find my people?
my mother is a covert narcissist... Her: "I spent my life being so kind. I'm a saint. I've spent my whole life saving everyone around me they would be dead if it wasn't for me. Im so sacrificial. In reality: she'll do something like -random as hell- goes and sweeps and mops my living room acts like she's going to faint from exhaustion the whole time while ding it and when i don't give her admiration for it yells at me for 40 mins straight and then brings it up in conversations for the next 5 years but how i still owe her for it. oh and come to find out the whole time she only cleaned the floor cus she spilled coffee on it and can't take responsibility for that mistake 😂😂😂 like holy shit it's enough to make you wanna scream
My entire immediate family has a mixture of all of these. I'm super terrified of my younger brother because he's everyone of these he beat me up and called the cops on me years ago he got on top of me punching me in my head. I felt my soul truly to leave but he threatened to say I beat him and he went in the bathroom and and put little marks on his face to pretend it was a couple rings I had on he put big knots all over my head and he threatens other things lies to people about me. We're in our 50's. And I will jump off a cliff before I let him abuse me. I'm too good and nice to him and mom and they both go crazy if I as much disagree or ask him why he would steal off us after he's been babied by mom. He's chocked her ect and she cooks takes his plate and I'm the scapegoat empath I hate them both now. I was pushed!!!! Mark my word they are going to PAY !!!
@@rimmalikover9724 I live alone but this was year's ago although he stayed at my apartment because he was homeless and still is except one of his buddies paid one of their friends that lived alone 200.00 a month for him and his gf to freeload off him because mom's Apt manager said he can't even come back or she'll get evicted if she doesn't call the cop's. He's 53 and she's 49 she uses excuses not to work says she has stomach problems but she eats alot and is big. I've had troubles with my stomach before and was skeletal. Even her mom knows she's lying to not work. And they were staying with mom's neighbor who is a chronic alcoholic and he was tired of them staying there but he was in love with the chic my brother is with. He is a narcissist and he has extremely bad anger issues with women but not with men. He is a yellow bellied coward. I have cut ties with him and I have strong boundaries with mom
Your mom created a monster. When don't correct and discipline a child that's a recipe for disaster. She normalize his toxic behavior and condones it. Please leave and never contact them again. Stay away. He will meet the wrong person and they won't back down to him. Seems like he only is vicious to women
I am 50 years old have no criminal behavior and never have. Have always had trouble keeping jobs don’t know that I manipulate people but might more than I think. I fit parts of several of these disorders so it is all so confusing to me. I like the field of psychology and so want to study it probably because of my own disorder.
Trouble holding a job is a huge sign of sociopathy or narcissism because they can't do anything they don't find exciting or interesting or that gives them instant gratification. I guess it depends on the reason you can't hold a job...do you just get bored and stop going? Are you frequently finding heated conflict at work? Or are you anxious and/or depressed? Or do you feel incapable of doing the work because you're not understanding exactly what you're supposed to do? If it's the last 2 it's probably not sociopathy or narcissism. Do you genuinely feel bad for other people when they experience pain or sadness? Do you find that you put your desires above everyone else's needs regardless of it hurts them emotionally, financially, or physically? Then you are likely a sociopath or narcissist
@@aurora8749 I attended work as scheduled and as far as I know performed my jobs as I am supposed to. Several times I end up finding out that for some reasons they ended up not being pleased with my performance no matter how hard I tried. I do all that I think I can to improve with no ability to achieve their performance metrics. At other times I just end up somehow disappointing them in some other way I can’t explain because they don’t tell me why they just say it’s not working out. That’s the most frustrating one for me because I get no explanation of what I even did wrong. It’s like they just stopped liking my face or something.
@@darrencole97 you might have asd like me. Narrasisims too broad I think it's a internet meme at this point.. Anyone can be a narrasist given the right situation.
@@aurora8749 I always go to work, never late, & think I am doing what they want until they tell me that I am not. Tends to shock me when I am told that I am not. They don’t take me aside and tell me I need to change something they just let me go. It happened to both me and my wife on the exact same day at our last job at the same place.
So I completely understand and agree with a lot of that but at the same time if someone is like that they usually never want to receive help because they don't recognize that they have those issues to begin with
These are quite informative. A word of caution for other viewers, and I say this not as a professional so take it with the proverbial grain of salt. I took an introductory psychology course in college. When we got to the section on abnormal psychology, which I found fascinating, I was alarmed. At the end of that section I talked with the teacher about the fact that I can see all these in myself. He laughed and said good. He then told me that everyone has all of these traits. The problem begins with one becomes dominate. As long as they are all balanced and control remains the person is normal. If this isn't kept in mind it is very easy for the hypochondriac in all of us can really get out of hand. I think that is the biggest reason for seeking professional help if there is really concern. As an aside, for the decades since I've referred to myself and a person with an inferiority complex with delusions of grandeur. Does that make me a narcissist?
You left out communal narcissist. Communal narcissism - "Unlike people with good, charitable intentions, a communal narcissist is a person who is only behaving well and helping others for the sake of receiving praise for their actions or being perceived as morally superior."
Well….. They all are identifiers of personality types, not Psychological Disorders. All Psychopaths and sociopaths are narcissistic. Not all narcissist are psychopathic or sociopathic.
I wonder how a psychopath or sociopath would manipulate a narcissist through fake praise, dares and what not to make them do their bidding or even humiliate them for fun.
Honestly by now I'm quite sure close to every depressed person have an issue with pathologic narcissism. Those people mostly suffer from what *they* feel, what the world has done to *them* and what life can't or will not provide to *them*. Best treatment surely would be to advice them to distance them from themselves and try to more connect with others and care more for them then their own self. But not to and beyond a point of total self-carelessness.
Dating an abusive sociopath turned my world upside down. I have never met such a broken "evil" person and I won't plan on being around one ever again if I can help it. I was threatened to be killed and i watched his anger grow and become closer and closer to killing me when hed attack me, or he'd threaten to kill himself, and I'd be harmed anytime I tried to leave. No phone or keys to my car. He was a victim of violence in his own home and perhaps that destructive force inspires him now. His parents failed him miserably. He loved admiration, he has all the traits of a narcissist, but there is such a deep rooted hurt that hes learned to cope and create a false projection of self while maintaining the very cunning and wicked side that even i couldnt fully recognize for the 4 years we were together until after i left. I watched how he turned people against eachother like pawns at our work together, while maintaining blamelessness. I pray the past remain my past, and i hope he discovered some truth that he is capable of becoming the person i loved and believed in. Not this.
@user-oy1hk1hp9q I was naive and manipulatable. He threatened to kill himself, and I felt sorry for him. Then his violence turned on me and he made me feel like I was to blame. I'm glad you have not and likely will not experience this level of torment from another individual
Fucking thank you! I have issues, and I'm on my own personal crusade of learning and spreading awareness to help people get help in dealing with their issues. We can stem the tides of ignorance, discrimination and suffering resultant from increasing numbers of individuals with dangerous personality disorders left untreated or improperly treated.
Been told by more than one professional...the sick ones usual dont seek help because they think its everyone else. Theyre fine. The victims go to shrinks. True sense of the word victims...not the modern one.
I dated someone with all of these perfectly positioned in the right places for nearly 2 years. Diligently researching and studying them and I was thrilled with how a 22 year old 40 kg max standing at 5’4” with the cutest smile and a charming smile adding to it a real listener(Could completely fake Empathy and Compassion-may sometimes feel abit of compassion ) could possibly move so calculated in order to find victims to get them do what she want it. Everything planned out and emotionless. Completing the recipe a mother that has lost identity mentally and environmentally thinking and acting like man , being her role model.These traits have been thrown around everywhere maliciously that I feel like they don’t carry the same weight they used to. But this is coming from a 30 year old educated well aware and someone whom may have dated or had interaction with over 100 woman diffrent ages backgrounds and personalities.someone whom studied and mastered each personality disorder and genetic disorder, one of the books that I recently wrote was about “Master The Art of Manipulation” such a person is a Silent Venomous weapon, that you’ll love and sacrifice for willingly blindly and completely. Trust me :)
In covert narcissism you're describing the woman I studied to understand narcissism. I often wondered the impact of her psychopath and sociopath parents. Her parents raised her in ways that didn't push her in the direction of success and I feel really bad about the fact that she is so vulnerable and yet too selfish to help.
Bad info! Most sociopaths keep to themselves and learn how to deal with the environment. It's only when they're triggered and hurt someone's feelings without feeling any emotion when you know they have this trait. I have a family member who is a sociopath who is a perfectly nice person and admits they simply lack empathy. 90% of sociopaths are non-violent and more than half are non manipulative
Your next video should be about telling the difference between an actual psychopath and a psychopath wannabe edgelord. And why Hollywood romanticizes psychopaths or why Hollywood characters portrayed as psychopaths like the joker from batman are so popular.
real, it’s hilarious, these 15 year old little tik tok kids diagnosing themselves as a psychopath because they watched a slightly gory video and didn’t feel remorse ONCE, especially when raised in a physically and emotionally secure household.
I find this topic fascinating and one peculiar observation I’ve made about people who are toxic is that they are constantly talking about money. Not your CPA or money manager but ordinary people who just can’t seem to stop talking about money. How much they have, how much they spend or how much things cost and huge control issues with other people in conjunction with money. I talk about money with my friends and family and my spouse but if I get around someone who is always talking about money they are usually incredibly toxic and sometimes incredibly dangerous
Yep. Like my roommate coming into my room while I'm in Therapy over a 32 yr old cold case. My roommate has stole 12 SD cards wiped one sd card and a hard drive clean. She is after my trail cams which are in my room to monitor my therapy cats. I am blown away she has been stealing from me. She always complains about never getting a golden star on her homework while in grade school....WTF. She's 62 yrs old.
So, what's up with violent bullies? Aren't they just insecure sadistic narcissists? They don't seem to be ASPD like sociopaths or psychopaths where there is an impaired ability to empathise with their victims, it's more like they're deliberately causing the violence to see the negative feelings in the victim.
3:56 - The Classic narcissist 6:11 - Sociopaths 9:17 - the difference between narcissists and sociopaths 11:14 - the difference between Psychopaths and Sociopaths
You just described a LARGE portion of women in america on the dating market and sociopath, in particular, describing those with very vocal and public criticism of the so-called “Passport Bros” 🤔🤔🤔
But what if you are an empath and you are in an on/off with a narcissist? When I am ready to date again, obviously I would be ashamed to even admit that I put up with the mental, emotional, psychological abuse, and am constantly expected to listen to their problems. And sometimes their problems they will amplify. For example they told me they have to leave their apartment by the end of the month. And I was trying to help them find a place. Money is no problem for them, but out of 25 places, something was wrong with each and every one of them, so I asked genuinely if he wanted my help in finding a place or if he was just wanting to vent? But the next time I see him, he has just paid another year at the place he lives at now, the same place he was telling me he had to be out of by the end of the month. So I started just listening instead of offering advice, unless he wanted it. Also he willingly left his job because he’s an alcoholic and doesn’t want to work because he’s a trust fund baby (57 years old, and I am 30). But he has so much work experience in so many different fields, he has a college degree, he looks 15 years younger than he is, and he is incredibly charming with strangers. But he will talk about no place ever hiring him….and not offering any advice, just trying to console him, I will say ‘I’m sure there are plenty of companies that would be so happy to have you as part of their team. You have a wide set of skills and experience, you’re intelligent, you’re sociable. I couldn’t think of anyone better to hire.’…but when i give words of encouragement he gets more aggressive and talks about how AI is taking over, journalism is dead, he would never want to teach kids to surf, he has a job offer by his best friend who allows him to drink on the job in construction…but he doesn’t want to do it. But I would never tell him ‘you just don’t want to work’….because I’m very careful not to attack his ethic or ego, plus that’s just not helpful to say….but his pessimistic attitude about everything his so disheartening. And it’s exhausting because I have to listen for hours on end, and there is no solution, it is just rants. And complaining how everyone around him (his divorce lawyers, his daughter’s therapist, his landlord/best friend/boss) The one guy who he could go work for in construction any day, and the owner of the one place he is able to live in without apparently ever having any rental history prior. However, now he has rental history. And he has amazing credit, and he has proof of money, because his father left him a lot of money, and he gets paid 2,500 a month from his soon to be ex wife. But no check stubs. I told him that there are plenty of places that let people move in that don’t have jobs, but that DO have money. But anyways the more that I try to remove his obstacles, the angrier he gets. So I just listen and nod in agreement now. And it is so exhausting. In the future though, I wouldn’t want to let someone who I was dating know that I put up with that. Along with a lot of hateful comments, followed by ‘I never said that’, followed by me saying don’t gas light me, followed by him saying ‘no you’re gaslighting me saying I said that I never said that!’….and when I do confront him it is not to make him a ‘bad guy’ it is because some of the things he has said are so offensive and hurtful, and I just wanted him to acknowledge that my pain was/is valid.
But long story short he won’t admit it and I can’t talk about those things anymore because I cannot stand to hear him deny saying something that he said directly to my face. But yeah long story short, I would be embarrassed of telling someone whom I was dating about what I had put up with in the past. But if we got serious, and we built trust, I would like to at least let my partner know about a past relationship because I don’t know if I will subconsciously be guarded because I don’t want any of my past traumas to be used against me, or I am afraid of ‘falling for’ the initial parts of a relationship where the guy is trying to win me over. How will I know if it’s genuine or a trap? 😞
@@jodibowers9047 TLDR = Too Long, Didn’t Read Ummmm, you got a lot going on in your dating life…A LOT. But you don’t see why someone would rather deal with dating someone who DOESN’T have all that going on?? Your whole explanation just made his point on why to avoid a woman that says she’s an empath that used to date a narcissist. Long story short, she will bring a VERY dysfunctional view of dating to the relationship and cause you unnecessary problems because of it.
One of the first things a person is supposed to learn about psychology is that psychology is subjective. This video talk about sociopaths as if we don't know how to follow a rule. It isn't like that at all, otherwise,how was I able to accomplish a military service? I might not care about the rules or about others,but I'm able to have empathy and to decide if do or not something that I'm aware is gonna hurt somebody. I can still being rational as long my temper haven't been triggered. Even when I get bored of anything and anyone,even when I don't have personal goals either I'm just not interested in anything. If anyone give me a job I accomplish it effectively,cause I have no distractions. And if I fall in love, which is totally possible, I'm extremely loyal. Where's that in your analysis? You need to clarify if you're a psychologist or a psychiatrist, because if you're a psychiatrist then you deal with people who has already being in trouble and require a treatment,not with people in general. As a sociopath I can guarantee than the most self aware you are,the more you can avoid being harmful for anyone around. I may not be able to control my temper,but I can recognize when this is gonna be triggered and I can choose if stay or leave before that happens. About the "enjoyment of the suffer" is not even a pleasure,is more a relief of tension. 1 out of each 30 people is inside the antisocial spectrum,only because the sociopaths that you heard of are the ones with psychopathic behavior. Doesn't mean everybody is the same.
I feel the same, I may be very manipulative and and do things only when it benefits me and makes me happy but I still care for my family and friends, and the people I manipulate.
@@laandafam4565 Im curious, does your level of caring come at the costs of how ppl are benefitting you? Like if your friends and family or even the people youre manipulating aren't of service does that change how you interact with them? For instance, are you more likely to be distant/colder with them if they're not benefitting you in some way?
Your problem is that you want to be labeled a sociopath. ASPD is a spectrum. It is not either or psychopath/sociopath. You most likely find it cool, hence your rant going on about yourself, so you are attempting at every facet to say that you are but this this this and this do not check off because “everyone is different.” Yes they are, that is why we have a spectrum with sociopath and psychopath in the radical portion. Sociopath is a definite term with specific issues and characteristics, such is the psychopath. You just have aspd..
The real conversation we should be having is how we can hold those people accountable when they engage in clearly criminal behavior that directly harms people in their path.
Our family was terrorized by a person with all 3. The most Evil narcissist at fort then brought in the other two. I have no words to describe the utter distraction she could bring. Thank God she on the other side of the country now !!!🤬🤬. 👵🏻👩🌾❣️
I am sorry I feel that it is important for me to let you know this was explained very poorly. Minute things are explained correctly, but so much is left out, so much is not explained correctly. Please find other videos.
I did not know there was a difference. All three have interchangeable characteristics with one another. Does anyone really need to learn how to deal with them other than just don't deal with them.😮
Thank you for keeping the truth about narcissism to 2. I had to nose divine into this since I had to understand my toxic marriage and everything I read over the past 5 years (even though I just left 1 year ago) always talked about 2. It was not until social media pick up and started to create multiple categories which then in my eye misdirected from the truth.
manic narcissist victim survivor here. the struggles experienced have set me back in life. it took years to make as much progress as I have but something is still missing preventing my ability to confidently live my life is there a store that sells self-esteem and or confidence understand I might have to get it programmed to my frequency a lot like the anti-theft system and a car key all joking aside are there any free strategies that I could use
I give narcissist a taste of their own medicine. I feel wrong most times. But sometimes , I… like it. But I would never want to hurt those who don’t harm me. I’d be lying if I said I don’t seek revenge.
I sort of wonder if I am a Narcissist given these traits that I have just heard. But no one has ever called me that and I have an ability to make good friendships which do last. I will say I do care about how other people see me but at the same time I do care how I view other people so I guess that answers my own question. I am not a Narcissist
I think I've only had experiences with psychopaths. They are the worst ppl ever. They can cover their lack of empathy well. They trick you into thinking you're crazy for suspecting that.
"The sociopath manipulates by saying he's going to kill himself" Yes, I'm in contact with one since two years and he lies about being a soldier whos out on a mission and "I may get killed today, I've arranged for my friend to let you know if I do" I think thats the part of him that needs reassurance that he matters to others due to his deep pathological insecurity. We're talking a guy thats so insecure he doesnt even dare to meet. He doesnt even dare to show his face, only his body and very few times bc its welltrained. Imagine to live with that level of insecurity.
I think I met someone who exhibited those behaviors that you described, deeply insecure about himself so he adopts a false superiority complex in attempts to conceal it. Overall in person he comes across as sociable to a superficial level, empathetic, and fairly considerate. But when talking to him indirectly by text he tends to come off as rather more contemplative, reserved, cunning, shrewd, arrogant, critical, judgmental, callous/lack of empathy, and texts me sardonic belittling comments when I stand up for myself..which later in person he would say he is only joking. And he might have also been a little sadistic. It dawned on me today that the person I'm describing here actually presented more characteristics of a Dark Empath. Therefore he tends to possess little bit of Machivellian, Narcissistic, and Psychopathic traits. 😐
@@spookyanalyst9432 "Only joking" cant take the responsability for what he said and that it hurt you, puts the blame on you for not being able to take a joke, arrogance, critical, sadistic.. You're describing a covert narcissist. Does he bring sad stories alot? Is he the guy who "I aaalways do my absolute best to ot judge others or be mean..." --> Insert fake tear?
The thing to keep in mind is that these labels are a blanket term that can’t fully capture an individual, just like schizophrenia is unique to every person who has it, the same can be said of the dark triad. My ex wife is schizophrenic, my older brother is a sociopath (diagnosed) and I’m pretty sure I’m a dark empath. Doesn’t make any of us bad people. Nor does it mean all of these traits are present. If you think you fall into this category, do your own research, come to your conclusions, and most importantly don’t let it define you. It’s possible to feel love, I do. It’s possible to feel empathy, just in different ways than what’s socially acceptable
As someone with ASPD, I love bursting the bubble of narcissists, humiliating them in front of others. Whenever I meet one I try to figure out what their biggest insecurity is so I can pick at it till I’ve worn away their sanity 😂
Also, as it is a spectrum there are clusters within the spectrum. Narcissism is one spectrum. There are multiple types of narcissistic personality disorder such as Covert,. Overt, Malignant and Grandiose to name a few.
these labels describe everyone - it is is just a spectrum. i have yet to meet someone who wasn't self centered to some degree or another, because everyone is a 'self' -- everyone refers to themselves as "i" or "me' -- this is normal-- everyone is the self. you see in this universe life feeds on life- a living organism can only sustain itself on the destruction of some other living organism, so where this all comes from. if no one were 'selfish', then no one would survive long enough to reproduce, creating more 'selfish' organisms and so on. even cooperation and socialization are actually selfish individuals pooling their self interests together for mutual defense, support and so on
Sometimes these traits, or patterns, as i prefer to view them, can be a result of some serious underdevelopment/illness. True. But sometimes these empathic feelings might be blocked by the very same amygdala due to being marked as "leading to pain" based on what the person survived in their childhood. This, at least, is the reason why I don't like these labels at all. Some narcissists and sociopaths, and probably even psychopaths, ARE really victims, not just pretending to be ones every time they get "attacked" - or so they overdramatically feel based on prev experience. You see, its especially easy to fall into that type of denial and aggression patterns when you're young and still trying to find your place whilst not knowing much about neither society, nor humans, not even yourself. And those in contact with such people, instead of trying to show some empathy and genuinely communicate such persons out of it step by step, oftentimes prefer to just see it as a big red flag, which of course causes additional distress in those poor sunk-in-denial creatures, and voila, you have lifelong bitterness and ocassional violence. Not their job thus not their fault I guess, but so much for the empathy, aye? Been there, somewhere in between sociopath and narcissist, based on explaination. 36yo, still am. Did i kill or seriously injure someone? Not really, no, i'm repulsed by the very thought. But do I feel like I could, based on circumstances? Yep. So... yeah, trying to figure the way out. For now it looks like my apathy was a mistake and organising my own life might help: scheduling time, breaking down desires into smaller tasks for reinforcement effect, and so on, classical "transform your life" stuff. Cause i've wasted too much time just expecting eveyone to value me just for breathing, bitching when they didn't, while excusing myself for not striving to just DO something with the glowing eyes, thus to give myself a reason for self-respect. This in turn caused me to ignore the others feelings and needs, which in turn of course drops my value to a negative in their eyes, a simple circle. Neurotic gravity loop of a kind. Oh well. Wish me patience and luck. And I hope someone younger who experiences similar issues will find this helpful, luck to ya too. The world is not your enemy, bros and sis. Life's hard, but get a helmet and carry on, you can be good and most people can appreciate this.
There seems to be an observational issue between what the conditions are like or cause, and then what methods these people use to live with their conditions. Crime or taking advantage of people 'are useful'; which is why so-called normal people also do lots of crime and take advantage of other people too.
If you add a label and you are young and insecure doesn’t mean you are that way. Constant love from family and friends is the best answer in my understanding. Not labelling or abandoning your family in a time of need or insecurity is the best bet.
I agree with this theory, these type of ppl are seriously cunning, manipulative and unscrupulous, providing them with information sessions ( psychiatry) will arm and enable them to better camouflage themselves and use the knowledge to prey on and take down their targets. I have personal experience with this, and I am highly skeptical with the notion that these ppl can be treated. They are what they are, I liken it to trying to rehabilitate a shark so it behaves as a dolphin. A predator is a predator, treat it as a gentle, friendly creature at your own risk but don’t be surprised when it attacks, it is just acting in line with its true nature.
I feel lie a lot doesn’t make sense a lot of the time. I know a friend of mine, lie a lot to just not get punished or for the face. I remember there was one time we were trying to find a place picnic, but we can’t found one so we lied an obviously lie to make our situation looks better, but what it actually does is make it more stupid cause everyone knew there is no such a place in my home town. But god damn I still consider the lies she had told is still at a massive level, even when I grow up. It’s like drinking or eating she does so much, she has a caring farther, I wonder maybe her mom is too strict for her to say the truth.
Wellness Lenses: I URGE you to repeat this video, but Add Asperger's Syndrome. What's going on inside the head of us "A.S." people is clearly different but what the rest of the world sees may appear to fit one of these others. I tend to think we Aspergers CAUSE other people to turn into Sociopaths. I've had several "best friends" want to kill me because THEY CAN'T READ ME correctly. It's as ridiculous as a man telling his wife, "Hey honey, during the half-time show I'm running to the store for more beer." And she replies, "OH! So you think my thighs are too fat!" I genuinely have worn a voice recorder when I interact with someone and on one occasion it kept me out of jail.
After knowing narcs all my life I got an asperger friend (did not know it at the time.) The confusion I felt! I knew this person had empathy but often the importance of his tasks, routines, interests etc felt like arrogance 😅. Turn out I was exactly the kind of person suitable as friend for aspergers, secure, empathic and moral, but it was the most confusing experience ever! What I liked was that he always told the truth sometimes too harshly but still 😂after narcs that was refreshing! I also knew he had empathy since I saw his reaction to a pic of an old lady, and so on, he could get really teary if someone was sad too. My looong experience of difficult people had made me very patient so I never wanted to kill him 😂but I can say one thing, because I knew he was not a narc but showed similar traits made me confused to the extreme, until I understood what he had! Fortunately I liked the friendship so my main goal all the time was to understand and help him. Had I known before, maybe I had been more considerate, no... I was already, but I would have had less questions in my mind. What I learned? To have my own time and barriers too i.e to love myself finally. And he said I have taught him how to show love to people. So I guess it was good for us both in the end.
I think this really makes it look possible to have a healthy relationship with a narcissist… you can’t! Don’t excuse this behavior they enjoy the game you are a toy they will always cheat just stay away from Them, they are extremely dangerous for your life and wellbeing
Narcissists who have tendencies to harm others, in my opinion they are psychopaths. These kind narcissists of narcissists, they know how to kill others without touching. Most of them will do lies, false accusations to their targets until their targets lost their job, lost their support system, lost their mind.
I’m not saying NOT to intervene if you think someone is dating a narcissist/socio/psychopath, but don’t be surprised if your efforts get you nowhere. I suppose it will always at least help them think about it.
I believe my spouse has a touch of narcissistic behavior. He can be extremely charming but because there are things he has trouble doing because of a lack of education, he gets frustrated and nasty and one-sided about most things. He can express his human emotions well ( cry, sad, hurt , pain ect...) but can't seem to feel for the other person who may have gone through similar experiences and gets mad when confronted with the inconsiderate behavior.
What are you waiting for?. RUN 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️ I would like you read the book "Without Conscience" Robert Hare. Zero contact forever. Life is beautiful 🌹
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To my great relief my psychiatrist assured me I am not any of these 3. I remember our last session clearly as he confidently diagnosed me as just an asshole.
LOL... same here.
Dude same here 😂
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"Sir, I may have to inform you that you're diagnosed with *_kolonistic personally disorder._* I'm very sorry."
@@LumaSloth lmfao 🤣🤣🤣
There is a big difference between "anti-social" and simply "un-social." I think it's used incorrectly here. "Anti" and "Un" mean very different things. I am "Un-social." I simply don't Need to be around people, and I enjoy my time alone. I do Not try to prevent other people from being around each other, and I can enjoy small doses of People.
Yes me as well, most people are a waste of time, I’m almost 70 and this has been my experience through my life
I never fit in with girls
They all look he same and don’t want someone like he around, I look differently
That’s just the it is, always been
You're an introvert then.
It’s called asocial instead of “un-social”
Introvert here too.
I dated a covert narcissist who was probably also a sociopath. He showed no empathy. Was deliberately mean & cruel. Was a pathological liar. He had me fooled in the beginning by love bombing me & being very charming. It wasnt long before he was constantly hurting me by gaslighting , ghosting me, blocking me & running away. Them woukd come running back a few days later. My mistake was every taking him back the first time. Made my life miserable for 5 years.
Poor guy probably suffers mental health issues
I read in an article that many covert narcissists exhibit psychopathic tendencies.
After ending and getting back together for 5 years how exactly did it end for good? Or what made it end for good?
Miss u 2 babe.
Omg exactly same here!!! But 7.5 years 😢 4 years free now.. still healing
Narcissist are quite aware of peoples feelings. I’ve been around many of them. They just do not care.
[CLARIFICATION: NARCISSIST ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES, and if they are impacted. I have been around two directly for 32 years and a coven of 20 for 10 years; all care about how they are “affected” & “effected”, not about the wellbeing of their “supply-victim”.]
This is precisely true. Many people don't know this about them but they are very aware of peoples feelings. They study people intensely they use your feelings to manipulate and abuse.
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Only about them self😢
@@uyoebyik no we fucking dont
Yeah and they're cowards also. When you start giving them pain they run away like bitches because they care up most about they're own well being. Then they try to fuck u over behind your back in a sneaky way.
Narcissists will often go undiagnosed. They don't see anything wrong with their behavior, so why go to a therapist unless they want someone to hear their sob stories. If they're more of a covert type, they will be playing the victim anyway--everyone else is the problem. Right? Going to therapy with someone like that only gives them more ammunition to hurt you later. Please, be careful!
Bottom line: Don't rely on whether or not someone has been diagnosed with any psychological disorder. Instead, ask yourself if they treat you well and with kindness. If they are toxic and harmful to you, the safer option of cutting your losses and moving on is often smarter. Why would you want to allow someone in your life to continue to mistreat you? If they are toxic, recognize that poor behavior and move on.
Many who did not and thought they could help someone wish they did--including myself. Learn from our mistakes and save yourselves the pain of dealing with them because these people very often do not want to let you go once you are in their lives. Be careful. Be smart. Peace and safety to all...
More people need to see your comment because it seems a bit overlooked.
Ps: thanks
It's so very hard to get away from a psycho narc
Excellent advice!!! Thank you 😊
One more bs from an 'expert'.
Being unkind and toxic abuse are two different things but look similar at a distance.
Psychopathy isn't that hard to spot on kids. It's actually harder to spot on adults. Any kid can get weird at times but psychopath kids are weird all the time. They're usually extremely cruel to siblings and friends and unresponsive to punishment. Parents of such children often just pray for a change. It's a rare condition.
True because you lack fear, including the fear of punishment. Your thinking is completely goal oriented but your still dumb as a child. A lot of is actually experimentation not necessarily evil intent. As an adult you’ve learned how you’re supposed to act and feel so you can adjust your behavior. Therapy is a great learning tool for that. You can’t change it. Your amygdala works differently. And honestly you would not want to if you had it. The thought that you have no emotion is wrong. There is 5 basic emotions. Happiness, Sadness, Fear, Anger and Disgust. It’s the Sadness and especially the Fear that we don’t feel. Happiness is weak. Anger and Disgust we feel. I think I probably feel Disgust stronger than normal people. Anger took some time to control. I feel lack of fear is what people envy a lot of times. It’s definitely the main reason you wouldn’t want to cure it. The amount of scenarios of terrible things that could happen a normal person’s brain can come up with… no thank you. Mine doesn’t even consider a negative outcome. It definitely gives you an advantage in occupations that are dangerous and require logical thinking detached from emotion. Also usually very reward driven. Not all exhibit anti social behavior. There is a thing called well adjusted psychopath. Still doesn’t make you warm and fuzzy but unless you also have sadistic tendencies you care just as little to harm others than to help them.
When I was a child, I recall a few children, usually boys, who were very cruel to animals and even to insects, enjoying watching them suffer. I suspect now that they were psychopaths.
@@truthseeker3031 I never directed it towards animals. Always felt it was pathetic to pick a victim that much weaker than you, but I wasn’t allowed to be alone with other children. My condition was MOST obvious to everyone around at Kindergarten age. Still pretty bad in Elementary school, but you could have just thought I was a big bully by that age. Nowadays you could only tell in a life threatening situation. Been studied by doctors quite a bit because it’s extremely rare in females.
To take pleasure in suffering makes you a sadist. It isn’t quite the same than lack of empathy. One is not caring, and one is getting enjoyment from it. You can have sadistic tendencies without being a psychopath, and you can be a psychopath without sadistic tendencies. However, if a psychopath has those tendencies they are MUCH more likely to act them out because they lack fear of the consequences of their actions.
Those children who were cruel to animals were actually my preferred victims. Made me look like the hero to target “bad” people and made me feel superior at the same time. I was the Apex predator, that preys on other predators instead of prey.
I prayed to get kidnapped by a serial killer when I was a kid, because I was convinced they would be my victim, and no one on earth would look at it as anything but self defense 😂
@@beatemuller3690 As I stated, they enjoyed suffering so they caused it; therefore, had no empathy. If a person has empathy, instead of CAUSING suffering, they try to prevent it and help the person because they actually "feel" for that person.
@@truthseeker3031 you are correct. If you enjoy causing suffering, you lack empathy. BUT you can lack empathy without enjoying to cause suffering. I just wanted to make that distinction because a lot of people mix that up.
I think it's narcissistic when a person constantly talks over top of others, constantly. I don't mean the occasional slip when we get too excited in a conversion. I'm talking about the people who do it every single conversation they have.
My ex was that way he would over talk me and his favorite thing to say to me was "you have no words here" or "you have no conversation here" especially when he was raging at me
@@medulgurlroxx885 yeah they really think the world revolves around their words
Funny I’m a narcissist but I just leave people alone and just don’t talk at all because I have been called annoying and such so I just don’t even try it anymore
@@medulgurlroxx885 i believe the appropriate response there would be word. Then calmly state that see you do have a word here. Checkmate
I noticed that with all kinds of narcissist that they are covered or malignant. Like you said there's nothing wrong with being excited about something that you accidentally talked over someone it's innocent you can kind of tell. But with a narcissist, they feel the need to always be right and when they see that you are getting the attention that they crave while speaking on certain subjects, they purposely try to drown you out with your loud talking even if you are valid in what you're saying. Even when they see that you're about to get a word in they will raise their voice and if your silent they'll bring their voice back down I noticed that. Most of the time when they're talking over you they're only doing it while you're talkin but if if you decide to be silent then they will break character if that makes sense. Because usually they're just repeating the same things over and over really loudly trying to drown out your logic but if you decide to be quiet and let them talk so they can look stupid, all of a sudden there speech will slow down and they'll get quiet too. A good example of this was a recording of a young rapper named Big latto versus Nicki Minaj. Go look it up I don't really pay attention to the mainstream like that but I happen to watch it one day and that's exactly what I saw. Nicki was trying to drown out the young lady's voice when she was making sense and asking her pertinent questions. The moment the girl decided to be quiet and let her talk Nikki speech pattern changed immediately once she heard her own self talk. They talk over people but they really ain't saying s*** is what I'm trying to say😅
You need to also remember that many people may appear to have one of - or two or three of - these three personality disorders. They may just have the traits and not be a narcissist, sociopath or psychopath. I was raised by a narc, so in my teenage and early twenties I acted a lot like one too, but once I realized I was acting wrong, I went to work changing myself to be better. Some times they don’t have the actual disorder, sometimes, they just learned and internalized their parents behavior
The "learned behavior" part was what the video said is the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath. The psychopath's illness is innate. The sociopath's is learned from his environment. I'm not saying you are either one. I am happy you got better.
Their is a criteria in the DSMV for diagnosing personality disorders and test have to be taken. They are also many co morbid traits and personality disorders such as HPD/NPD or the malignant narcissist with the dark triad or dark tetrad.
@@phoenixrisin2269 The DSM gives mental health providers excuses to charge more money. 😜
CPTSD?
I agree. An individual might not really have one of these personality disorders. But might only have Narcissistic, Sociopathic or Psychopathic tendencies.
Narcissistic = I, Me, My! = Passive-aggressive = you are responsible for what's happening to them when your behavior does not model their expectations.
I agree with your Narcissist comment, they are all about themselves… and they love to make you think you’re going crazy, and they love adoration, and think of others as prizes or property…
Passive-aggressive people hate confrontation, and instead of being assertive/arguing, they will agree or give the silent treatment, for example: play mind games, get even, damage the other’s property, etc… or they may agree with the other (if they care for them) and do what they demand for a little while and then resent the other, and instead of confronting the other, they avoid communicating and then act out in aggressive ways and when the other calls them out on it, the passive-aggressor will deny it was about them and blame it on someone or something else…
Yes, that's what a traumatized person is like. That's quite normal, they are protecting themselves.
@@name5876and it's sucks when you think about it 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
One doesn't have to be able to diagnose someone as a difficult personality. All they need to know is it's a spectrum of disorders. Cluster B personality disorders are all dangerous to a peaceful and fulfilling life and should all be avoided when possible.
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Well that's kind of stigmatising...
@@VampiraVonGhoulscout sadly it's true.
Abuse is still abuse no matter what diagnosis. Get out stay out.
@@VampiraVonGhoulscout is it stigmatizing to say that cancer spreads?
Pay attention to how they treat others, If you are put on a path that they designed be careful. If they hurt others its just a matter of time before you get hurt too.
True!
Exactly !! I always say .. it you see them do harm , steal from , gossip , slander, etc .. know they Will Do It To You !!
I have heard that when a person is dating they should observe how their date treats the wait staff. But I don't know if this is a legit way of seeing indication of the disorders discussed in the video.
@@dngrwllrbnsn_ I would look for how they're treating their close family and how the whole family interacts. This will be the future.
Just be careful with all people, a person does not know what's hiding behind the rocks.
Or the charming mask that melts and morphs into the face of raging fury or icy cold detachment when they slice the victim's throat.
Regarding the narcissistic, this is really vague and generalised information. For example, a malignant narcissist has severe and intentional impacts on those around them.
Therapists can be the worst when it comes to these 3 traits, beware. !
OMG there is so much wrong with the therapeutic community. It seems so many (like most med professions) are just in it for the money and like keeping patients coming back for more. I think "talk" therapy is a fraud. If a therapist doesn't start a patient on CBT, DBT or some other concrete method, they are of very little therapeutic value.
My own father was an example of that - a highly manipulative sociopath and a psychiatrist. My mom, who divorced him when I was 5, was of the opinion that many of those types go into that field to try to cure themselves. They like to sample the mind altering drugs samples given to them by the pharma-reps themselves too, which is another red flag, I think. - He also had his own mother (my grandma) addicted to psych drugs, which was highly unethical, and destroyed her life too in the end.
Five of my friends have degrees and or😢 careers as psychotherapist’s.
One freely admits he pursued the field trying to figure himself out. He has worked hard to curtail his deceitful kleptomania, and has almost succeeded. His strategy is to tell close friends his problem to they could empathize and help him stay a normal course.Put himself into a career where there is nothing to steal but keeps his mind busy. Pleasant person to be around.
The second had a career in the psych field which if anything damaged him further. Will not listen to those who try to help him. Hard to say if he is psycho or socio. Prone to periods of paranoia and rage against others. He is difficult to be around.
Third quit the field as prominent therapist he says to maintainhis own sanity. Began a second, successful and happy carer as a carpenter. One of the most pleasant persons you will ever meet. 😂
The other two are outstanding human beings.
All you need to know is if somebody is narcissistic. All 3 are. So it's really irrelevant. Avoid them all.
True, sociopaths and psychopaths also only care about themselves just like narcissists. Never really looked at it that way before
Avoid them all is the golden rule, but some psychopaths and sociopaths are much more dangerous than a neurotic narcissist. =D
Sociopaths and Psychopaths are unpredictable. They can really succeed in business, probably because they don’t let pesky feelings or relationships get in the way. But they also have trouble understanding and fitting into society. They can become angry and have no limits.
But the narcissist is the weaker one they want attention and they think they're special😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
People with these symptoms, including myself, need cognitive behavioral therapy or CBT. It changed my life drastically. Especially with close relationships.
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Spot on
What about DBT? I thought it was better suited for such symptoms?
CPTSD?
Are you diagnosed too? I have way too many questions to ask but I dont want to seem pushy
Having nothing to do with any of these awful personalities is the most affective way to deal with them?! Most of us have gut feeling and we should go with that?? - Prevention is the key!
Antisocial traits would appear to exist on a spectrum.... and I honestly believe that when the majority of people use the word "psychopath" (similar to the word "addict") as a way of distancing themselves from these abhorrent behaviors.... as a means of telling themselves "I couldn't be driven to do these things, because they have this condition and I don't." ....
It also doubles as a means of excusing our own mistreatment of them. When you tell yourself someone can't feel emotions, it suddenly becomes impossible to treat them too harshly.
Im on the spectrum, and my mother is a covert narcissist. It bothers her that I don't like to read through her self-flattering small-talk scripts, she told herself that I was a psychopath, and then treated me like I have no feelings... for 30 years, without feeling bad about it. That's where I got this name from. I told a Dr. that I thought I was a psychopath, and he said "well if you are, you're sure are one, SOCIALIZED PSYCHOPATH.
Same with addict.... and "addict" is simply a traumatized person, who first found relief in a substance or some other activity that releases dopamine. That's all.... they aren't born with it... and they are no different physiologically. That's hard for most people to accept.
I find this interesting because I tend to believe that people DONT think that ppl struggling with addiction are any different physically or physiologically. On the contrary, I think most think that ppl with addiction have a character defect, a morality deficit, if you will and nothing more. They're just "bad seeds" in the eyes of many or even most. They don't understand that ppl with addiction may have went through childhood trauma such as the loss of a parent at a young age, abuse, neglect, etc. They also don't realize that ppl may struggle with a condition that they end up trying to mask or "medicate" themselves for such as depression, anxiety or any other various condition.
Just watch, I'm sure someone will disagree with me here and let me know that ppl who have a drug addiction problem ARE in fact, bad ppl and that they deserve no mercy on their souls. lol.
Sociopath and covert narcissist here, or rather, I should say one in recovery. I’ve found psychedelics and empathogenic drugs quite wonderful for healing and dealing with those issues.
not a good idea to be self medicating. a medical professional's help should be sought.
Best wishes on recovery. I am glad you are working it! Yeah, the prospect that such drugs may be therapeutic is fascinating. I'm afraid the stigma attached to their use will mitigate much medical research. Hopefully over time their efficacy will be established. But if Big Pharma can't make big bucks on it don't bet the farm on their acceptance. Decriminalization would be a great start. But look how long that took for weed. Best wishes on all of that too, for you, Vickie.
psychedelics are known to be affective but not yet on prescription so I don't know how a Dr could help with that one
I appreciate these videos so much... I have often suspected later in life that I am a target for narcissists. This helps greatly.
Listen you know your thing obviously. But I know plenty of narcissist that do it not simply just to be admired, simply so they can get their way about absolutely every single thing that goes on with the people around them.
The best way to learn what a narcissist really is...Be raised by my evil mother. I'm 50 and I still can't handle relationships or trust anyone. I so resent what she did to me. She drove all my childhood friends away and loved to humiliate me in front of anyone I ever knew. When she ran out of ways to destroy me she held me back in school even though I was doing better than I had in previous years. I hope shes burning in hell if there is one.
Your not alone mate... I'm 56, and dad protected me from my covert narc mother. He died when I was 16, and then she began to let loose...finally left home at 21. My brother, 2 years younger, did not escape so easily... he's still an alcoholic today. Mom died 2014, and when I got the call from the hospital at 9:20 on a Monday, that she had a massive stroke, I took my time getting to the hospital. I arrived at noon, and she was reported as clinically brain dead by the emergency physician. I had no hesitation telling the Dr. to go ahead and take her off life support. I left the hospital for the nearest bar and ordered a single malt scotch, and felt grateful.
@@josephzsoka874 Guys, such terrible ways to have live. This is so sad. I wish you best.
What kind of person NEVER no matter what denies everything they do to cause pain or embarrassment? What kind of person takes full control over another person? What type of person goes into a meltdown when they experience boundaries from another person and blames another person of being a narcissist for putting up boundaries?
My sister.
My mother
I've had one of each in a "romantic relationship" capacity. The traits/behaviors overlap for sure. An experience with each will help you identify them all no matter the over lapping traits or lack thereof.
The sociopath with narcissistic personality disorder was the worst of the 3...however, this helped me (along with research) figure out the other 2
Enjoy being punished then?
I hope the next one is "Mr Right." You need a break!
@@JDawg271Your statement puts you in all 3 categories.
But at least you don't mind outing yourself publicly.
So yes there are partner types that these 3 traits of people go after. Just the same in how a person picks a comment to reply to, to victim shame and point out there overt good nature (the 3 types favorite victim supply) so if you think there something wrong with being a nurturing type person. Then that says more about you, than it does them.
And I hate to break it to ya... but there's nothing rare about those types of people. I had one as a mother, my daughter just broke up with one... I have 2 cousins that are as well. And most people have interacted with one of the types and often just don't know it. So no, it's not rare at all. I think if you'd do real research and look up the numbers... you'd find that it's a lot more common than you think. Especially in this day and age.
Love the video.
1)Do you agree social media has been a narcissist dream come true due to all the instant gratification?
2) Is there another form/type of narcissist called malignant bipolar narcissist?
Thank you for your comment. As far as your first question, of course, instant gratification made possible by social media allows a narcissist to achieve instant gratification. We'll actually be covering more on this topic in a future video. For your second question, I would say that the term is not an official one. There are some key characteristics of bipolar and NPD that overlap, like being overly impulsive or setting unattainable goals. And some people could, in theory, have both. The overall agreement in the mental health treatment community is that it's people with bipolar disorder that have some narcissistic traits, usually during manic episodes. We're making a couple of videos on the topic of bipolar as well, so stay tuned. Thank you for watching!
@@wellnesslenses yes...
Only a Narcissist would set themselves up with thier Own channel staring only themselves, talking about themselves, thinking they're experts on something to get you to follow them get addicted to following listening to them seeking constant praise admiration literally ASKING you to like subscribe to their channel .
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Seriously TH-cam is a Narcissist dream!
@@wellnesslenses. I look forward to discussions on the effects of social media with or encouraging narcissists. My son is dealing with his 15 year old daughter and her mother, she isolates herself with her phone and social media friends, while showing rudeness and contempt for her father while he attempts to have a relationship with her. We’re it not her daughter you would not give her the time of day.
My ex boyfriend is very clearly a narcissist while my ex best friend is a psychopath. I dealt with their abuse back to back and I haven’t been the same since.
Most likely they’re not and you’re just diagnosing. People can be assholes and bad people without being clinically mentally ill. You wouldn’t know for sure unless they went to an actual psychologist. People throw around these terms way too much without understanding how rare these disorders really are, lol.
My fellow psychopaths and sociopaths, we're not alone in our lack of empathy here. I feel for you even though I don't have empathy.
Lol 😂
I'm not sure if it's meant to be but sarcasm is lovely. Thanks for the levity
Can you elaborate here, sir?
I have been with 2 of the 3. Possibly all 3. My most serious relationships have been with a sociopath and a narcissistic person. Currently going on 5 yrs with the narcissist. We have a 2 yr old. We both have some mental illnesses and let me tell you, its hard. Hes my best friend and the love of my life but sometimes its too much. All ive ever attracted are narcissists, psychopaths and sociopaths. Its another con of being an empath. We are healers so we attract the broken
Same here. I wish you the best 🖤
@@snowredsnow666 thanks dude, you as well!
Princess Siren is the name of someone who's a pain in the ass- I hope your karma brings blessings all the same. Take accountability and learn whatever it is that you're supposed to learn while going through this
@@user-gp5yh7eg4z @user-gp5yh7eg4z lol waita jump to conclusions, im probably a pain in the ass from all the mental illnesses ive developed from bullies and abusers. Ima survivor hun. And im well worth it. Siren is just a stage name. Ima 'princess' because good ppl should be treated good and i dont get good treatment. Im an empath and a nurterer, im everyones mom. Im a healer so ima target. Ironic cus you legit just bashed me and you dont even know me. Are you a narcissist yourself? Lmao. i hope all the enlightment for myself, but saying i need to take accountability makes it seem like you know me and my situations and you fr dont. I have taken accountability time and time again, its those i interact with that need to take accountability.
@@user-gp5yh7eg4z as for my karma and blessings, yes i take all of it day by day. Its rough. Dont know why people do me so wrong, when i treat people so good
I've endured misidentification for the past year or so and at times I can barely take it. It's not my fault, due to the work that I did during the pandemic I wore a mask for 10 hours per day for 3 years. I lost a lot of my ability to express properly with my face and I very nearly lost my mind. I was a part of getting COVID tests out to the world, I gave my joy, my freedom and my free time in sacrifice in order to help keep people safe. The assumptions that people make are so painful and they must each be addressed individually which as an introvert I don't have a clue as to how to begin. People see in me a thing that they don't understand but it is anything but cruelty or a lack of conscience, I did what I did because I love people and now I just wish that even one person can see whom I really am. I am creative, I love, I hurt and I am alone and entirely misjudged for things that I must exhaustively explain. How do I get back from here? How do I find my people?
my mother is a covert narcissist... Her: "I spent my life being so kind. I'm a saint. I've spent my whole life saving everyone around me they would be dead if it wasn't for me. Im so sacrificial.
In reality: she'll do something like -random as hell- goes and sweeps and mops my living room acts like she's going to faint from exhaustion the whole time while ding it and when i don't give her admiration for it yells at me for 40 mins straight and then brings it up in conversations for the next 5 years but how i still owe her for it. oh and come to find out the whole time she only cleaned the floor cus she spilled coffee on it and can't take responsibility for that mistake 😂😂😂 like holy shit it's enough to make you wanna scream
My entire immediate family has a mixture of all of these. I'm super terrified of my younger brother because he's everyone of these he beat me up and called the cops on me years ago he got on top of me punching me in my head. I felt my soul truly to leave but he threatened to say I beat him and he went in the bathroom and and put little marks on his face to pretend it was a couple rings I had on he put big knots all over my head and he threatens other things lies to people about me. We're in our 50's. And I will jump off a cliff before I let him abuse me. I'm too good and nice to him and mom and they both go crazy if I as much disagree or ask him why he would steal off us after he's been babied by mom. He's chocked her ect and she cooks takes his plate and I'm the scapegoat empath I hate them both now. I was pushed!!!! Mark my word they are going to PAY !!!
Can you move out and go no contact with your relatives?
@@rimmalikover9724 I live alone but this was year's ago although he stayed at my apartment because he was homeless and still is except one of his buddies paid one of their friends that lived alone 200.00 a month for him and his gf to freeload off him because mom's Apt manager said he can't even come back or she'll get evicted if she doesn't call the cop's. He's 53 and she's 49 she uses excuses not to work says she has stomach problems but she eats alot and is big. I've had troubles with my stomach before and was skeletal. Even her mom knows she's lying to not work. And they were staying with mom's neighbor who is a chronic alcoholic and he was tired of them staying there but he was in love with the chic my brother is with. He is a narcissist and he has extremely bad anger issues with women but not with men. He is a yellow bellied coward. I have cut ties with him and I have strong boundaries with mom
You need a rock solid relationship with GOD
and don't worry about anything else
Start wearing a bodycam
Your mom created a monster. When don't correct and discipline a child that's a recipe for disaster. She normalize his toxic behavior and condones it. Please leave and never contact them again. Stay away. He will meet the wrong person and they won't back down to him. Seems like he only is vicious to women
I am 50 years old have no criminal behavior and never have. Have always had trouble keeping jobs don’t know that I manipulate people but might more than I think. I fit parts of several of these disorders so it is all so confusing to me. I like the field of psychology and so want to study it probably because of my own disorder.
Trouble holding a job is a huge sign of sociopathy or narcissism because they can't do anything they don't find exciting or interesting or that gives them instant gratification. I guess it depends on the reason you can't hold a job...do you just get bored and stop going? Are you frequently finding heated conflict at work? Or are you anxious and/or depressed? Or do you feel incapable of doing the work because you're not understanding exactly what you're supposed to do? If it's the last 2 it's probably not sociopathy or narcissism. Do you genuinely feel bad for other people when they experience pain or sadness? Do you find that you put your desires above everyone else's needs regardless of it hurts them emotionally, financially, or physically? Then you are likely a sociopath or narcissist
@@aurora8749 I attended work as scheduled and as far as I know performed my jobs as I am supposed to. Several times I end up finding out that for some reasons they ended up not being pleased with my performance no matter how hard I tried. I do all that I think I can to improve with no ability to achieve their performance metrics. At other times I just end up somehow disappointing them in some other way I can’t explain because they don’t tell me why they just say it’s not working out. That’s the most frustrating one for me because I get no explanation of what I even did wrong. It’s like they just stopped liking my face or something.
@@darrencole97 you might have asd like me. Narrasisims too broad I think it's a internet meme at this point.. Anyone can be a narrasist given the right situation.
Don't die as a piece of shit and treat people well
@@aurora8749 I always go to work, never late, & think I am doing what they want until they tell me that I am not. Tends to shock me when I am told that I am not. They don’t take me aside and tell me I need to change something they just let me go. It happened to both me and my wife on the exact same day at our last job at the same place.
confidence my family fill of Narcissists 💀💀💀💀
WE ARE ALL ONE ❤ NO matter who or what❤ may God bless You all 🎉
So I completely understand and agree with a lot of that but at the same time if someone is like that they usually never want to receive help because they don't recognize that they have those issues to begin with
Clear, concise info; easily digested. Ty♡
Glad it was helpful!
I grew up in a conflict zone and my reflections are every one seemed to display these characteristics "even me" !
My adult daughter is a narc. I e listened to so many things on this but you definitely explained it to a T. I love your channel
These are quite informative. A word of caution for other viewers, and I say this not as a professional so take it with the proverbial grain of salt.
I took an introductory psychology course in college. When we got to the section on abnormal psychology, which I found fascinating, I was alarmed. At the end of that section I talked with the teacher about the fact that I can see all these in myself. He laughed and said good. He then told me that everyone has all of these traits. The problem begins with one becomes dominate. As long as they are all balanced and control remains the person is normal.
If this isn't kept in mind it is very easy for the hypochondriac in all of us can really get out of hand. I think that is the biggest reason for seeking professional help if there is really concern.
As an aside, for the decades since I've referred to myself and a person with an inferiority complex with delusions of grandeur. Does that make me a narcissist?
i think so
I think it might make you normal...
You left out communal narcissist.
Communal narcissism - "Unlike people with good, charitable intentions, a communal narcissist is a person who is only behaving well and helping others for the sake of receiving praise for their actions or being perceived as morally superior."
Well…..
They all are identifiers of personality types, not Psychological Disorders.
All Psychopaths and sociopaths are narcissistic. Not all narcissist are psychopathic or sociopathic.
I wonder how a psychopath or sociopath would manipulate a narcissist through fake praise, dares and what not to make them do their bidding or even humiliate them for fun.
Honestly by now I'm quite sure close to every depressed person have an issue with pathologic narcissism.
Those people mostly suffer from what *they* feel, what the world has done to *them* and what life can't or will not provide to *them*.
Best treatment surely would be to advice them to distance them from themselves and try to more connect with others and care more for them then their own self.
But not to and beyond a point of total self-carelessness.
Dating an abusive sociopath turned my world upside down. I have never met such a broken "evil" person and I won't plan on being around one ever again if I can help it. I was threatened to be killed and i watched his anger grow and become closer and closer to killing me when hed attack me, or he'd threaten to kill himself, and I'd be harmed anytime I tried to leave. No phone or keys to my car. He was a victim of violence in his own home and perhaps that destructive force inspires him now. His parents failed him miserably. He loved admiration, he has all the traits of a narcissist, but there is such a deep rooted hurt that hes learned to cope and create a false projection of self while maintaining the very cunning and wicked side that even i couldnt fully recognize for the 4 years we were together until after i left. I watched how he turned people against eachother like pawns at our work together, while maintaining blamelessness. I pray the past remain my past, and i hope he discovered some truth that he is capable of becoming the person i loved and believed in. Not this.
@user-oy1hk1hp9q I was naive and manipulatable. He threatened to kill himself, and I felt sorry for him. Then his violence turned on me and he made me feel like I was to blame. I'm glad you have not and likely will not experience this level of torment from another individual
Most politicians fall into one of those three types
Many therapists also fall into one of those three types too.
Your giving politicians to much credit. Most are just grifters. Or garden variety whores.
Fucking thank you! I have issues, and I'm on my own personal crusade of learning and spreading awareness to help people get help in dealing with their issues. We can stem the tides of ignorance, discrimination and suffering resultant from increasing numbers of individuals with dangerous personality disorders left untreated or improperly treated.
Same here ~ iam aware now
Been told by more than one professional...the sick ones usual dont seek help because they think its everyone else. Theyre fine.
The victims go to shrinks. True sense of the word victims...not the modern one.
I dated someone with all of these perfectly positioned in the right places for nearly 2 years. Diligently researching and studying them and I was thrilled with how a 22 year old 40 kg max standing at 5’4” with the cutest smile and a charming smile adding to it a real listener(Could completely fake Empathy and Compassion-may sometimes feel abit of compassion ) could possibly move so calculated in order to find victims to get them do what she want it. Everything planned out and emotionless. Completing the recipe a mother that has lost identity mentally and environmentally thinking and acting like man , being her role model.These traits have been thrown around everywhere maliciously that I feel like they don’t carry the same weight they used to. But this is coming from a 30 year old educated well aware and someone whom may have dated or had interaction with over 100 woman diffrent ages backgrounds and personalities.someone whom studied and mastered each personality disorder and genetic disorder, one of the books that I recently wrote was about “Master The Art of Manipulation” such a person is a Silent Venomous weapon, that you’ll love and sacrifice for willingly blindly and completely. Trust me :)
In covert narcissism you're describing the woman I studied to understand narcissism. I often wondered the impact of her psychopath and sociopath parents. Her parents raised her in ways that didn't push her in the direction of success and I feel really bad about the fact that she is so vulnerable and yet too selfish to help.
Bad info! Most sociopaths keep to themselves and learn how to deal with the environment. It's only when they're triggered and hurt someone's feelings without feeling any emotion when you know they have this trait. I have a family member who is a sociopath who is a perfectly nice person and admits they simply lack empathy. 90% of sociopaths are non-violent and more than half are non manipulative
Your next video should be about telling the difference between an actual psychopath and a psychopath wannabe edgelord. And why Hollywood romanticizes psychopaths or why Hollywood characters portrayed as psychopaths like the joker from batman are so popular.
real, it’s hilarious, these 15 year old little tik tok kids diagnosing themselves as a psychopath because they watched a slightly gory video and didn’t feel remorse ONCE, especially when raised in a physically and emotionally secure household.
I find this topic fascinating and one peculiar observation I’ve made about people who are toxic is that they are constantly talking about money. Not your CPA or money manager but ordinary people who just can’t seem to stop talking about money. How much they have, how much they spend or how much things cost and huge control issues with other people in conjunction with money. I talk about money with my friends and family and my spouse but if I get around someone who is always talking about money they are usually incredibly toxic and sometimes incredibly dangerous
Hard to live with these people. Unfortunately they don’t have any responsability for their actions.😢
Yep. Like my roommate coming into my room while I'm in Therapy over a 32 yr old cold case. My roommate has stole 12 SD cards wiped one sd card and a hard drive clean. She is after my trail cams which are in my room to monitor my therapy cats. I am blown away she has been stealing from me.
She always complains about never getting a golden star on her homework while in grade school....WTF. She's 62 yrs old.
It is your responsibility to avoid them, not theirs to avoid you. xD
So, what's up with violent bullies? Aren't they just insecure sadistic narcissists? They don't seem to be ASPD like sociopaths or psychopaths where there is an impaired ability to empathise with their victims, it's more like they're deliberately causing the violence to see the negative feelings in the victim.
These three types makes life a Virtual hell for All People...GOD BLESS THEM WITH EMPATHY, CONSCIENCE AND COMPASSION...
3:56 - The Classic narcissist
6:11 - Sociopaths
9:17 - the difference between narcissists and sociopaths
11:14 - the difference between Psychopaths and Sociopaths
I’m so happy I found this channel
You just described a LARGE portion of women in america on the dating market and sociopath, in particular, describing those with very vocal and public criticism of the so-called “Passport Bros” 🤔🤔🤔
Yeah, and look out for the ones that say they are empaths and were in a bad relationship with a narcissist; that's the biggest red flag in my book.
@@casepatts9322 yeah I’m not looking out for anything because I’m already checked out 🤣 I don’t date in america anymore and I been happy ever since
But what if you are an empath and you are in an on/off with a narcissist? When I am ready to date again, obviously I would be ashamed to even admit that I put up with the mental, emotional, psychological abuse, and am constantly expected to listen to their problems. And sometimes their problems they will amplify. For example they told me they have to leave their apartment by the end of the month. And I was trying to help them find a place. Money is no problem for them, but out of 25 places, something was wrong with each and every one of them, so I asked genuinely if he wanted my help in finding a place or if he was just wanting to vent? But the next time I see him, he has just paid another year at the place he lives at now, the same place he was telling me he had to be out of by the end of the month. So I started just listening instead of offering advice, unless he wanted it. Also he willingly left his job because he’s an alcoholic and doesn’t want to work because he’s a trust fund baby (57 years old, and I am 30). But he has so much work experience in so many different fields, he has a college degree, he looks 15 years younger than he is, and he is incredibly charming with strangers. But he will talk about no place ever hiring him….and not offering any advice, just trying to console him, I will say ‘I’m sure there are plenty of companies that would be so happy to have you as part of their team. You have a wide set of skills and experience, you’re intelligent, you’re sociable. I couldn’t think of anyone better to hire.’…but when i give words of encouragement he gets more aggressive and talks about how AI is taking over, journalism is dead, he would never want to teach kids to surf, he has a job offer by his best friend who allows him to drink on the job in construction…but he doesn’t want to do it. But I would never tell him ‘you just don’t want to work’….because I’m very careful not to attack his ethic or ego, plus that’s just not helpful to say….but his pessimistic attitude about everything his so disheartening. And it’s exhausting because I have to listen for hours on end, and there is no solution, it is just rants. And complaining how everyone around him (his divorce lawyers, his daughter’s therapist, his landlord/best friend/boss) The one guy who he could go work for in construction any day, and the owner of the one place he is able to live in without apparently ever having any rental history prior. However, now he has rental history. And he has amazing credit, and he has proof of money, because his father left him a lot of money, and he gets paid 2,500 a month from his soon to be ex wife. But no check stubs. I told him that there are plenty of places that let people move in that don’t have jobs, but that DO have money. But anyways the more that I try to remove his obstacles, the angrier he gets. So I just listen and nod in agreement now. And it is so exhausting.
In the future though, I wouldn’t want to let someone who I was dating know that I put up with that. Along with a lot of hateful comments, followed by ‘I never said that’, followed by me saying don’t gas light me, followed by him saying ‘no you’re gaslighting me saying I said that I never said that!’….and when I do confront him it is not to make him a ‘bad guy’ it is because some of the things he has said are so offensive and hurtful, and I just wanted him to acknowledge that my pain was/is valid.
But long story short he won’t admit it and I can’t talk about those things anymore because I cannot stand to hear him deny saying something that he said directly to my face.
But yeah long story short, I would be embarrassed of telling someone whom I was dating about what I had put up with in the past. But if we got serious, and we built trust, I would like to at least let my partner know about a past relationship because I don’t know if I will subconsciously be guarded because I don’t want any of my past traumas to be used against me, or I am afraid of ‘falling for’ the initial parts of a relationship where the guy is trying to win me over. How will I know if it’s genuine or a trap? 😞
@@jodibowers9047 TLDR = Too Long, Didn’t Read
Ummmm, you got a lot going on in your dating life…A LOT. But you don’t see why someone would rather deal with dating someone who DOESN’T have all that going on?? Your whole explanation just made his point on why to avoid a woman that says she’s an empath that used to date a narcissist. Long story short, she will bring a VERY dysfunctional view of dating to the relationship and cause you unnecessary problems because of it.
I’m a sociopath when I feel I am slighted even in the slightest my mind goes to violence immediately but I’ve learn to control myself.
Thats anger issues
@@leonvanschoor and what did we watch in this video. Sociopaths have anger(aka impulse issues). So like I said. I am a sociopath
One of the first things a person is supposed to learn about psychology is that psychology is subjective.
This video talk about sociopaths as if we don't know how to follow a rule.
It isn't like that at all, otherwise,how was I able to accomplish a military service?
I might not care about the rules or about others,but I'm able to have empathy and to decide if do or not something that I'm aware is gonna hurt somebody.
I can still being rational as long my temper haven't been triggered.
Even when I get bored of anything and anyone,even when I don't have personal goals either I'm just not interested in anything.
If anyone give me a job I accomplish it effectively,cause I have no distractions.
And if I fall in love, which is totally possible, I'm extremely loyal.
Where's that in your analysis?
You need to clarify if you're a psychologist or a psychiatrist, because if you're a psychiatrist then you deal with people who has already being in trouble and require a treatment,not with people in general.
As a sociopath I can guarantee than the most self aware you are,the more you can avoid being harmful for anyone around.
I may not be able to control my temper,but I can recognize when this is gonna be triggered and I can choose if stay or leave before that happens.
About the "enjoyment of the suffer" is not even a pleasure,is more a relief of tension.
1 out of each 30 people is inside the antisocial spectrum,only because the sociopaths that you heard of are the ones with psychopathic behavior.
Doesn't mean everybody is the same.
I feel the same, I may be very manipulative and and do things only when it benefits me and makes me happy but I still care for my family and friends, and the people I manipulate.
@@laandafam4565 Im curious, does your level of caring come at the costs of how ppl are benefitting you? Like if your friends and family or even the people youre manipulating aren't of service does that change how you interact with them? For instance, are you more likely to be distant/colder with them if they're not benefitting you in some way?
Your problem is that you want to be labeled a sociopath. ASPD is a spectrum. It is not either or psychopath/sociopath. You most likely find it cool, hence your rant going on about yourself, so you are attempting at every facet to say that you are but this this this and this do not check off because “everyone is different.” Yes they are, that is why we have a spectrum with sociopath and psychopath in the radical portion. Sociopath is a definite term with specific issues and characteristics, such is the psychopath. You just have aspd..
The real conversation we should be having is how we can hold those people accountable when they engage in clearly criminal behavior that directly harms people in their path.
Our family was terrorized by a person with all 3. The most Evil narcissist at fort then brought in the other two. I have no words to describe the utter distraction she could bring. Thank God she on the other side of the country now !!!🤬🤬. 👵🏻👩🌾❣️
Birds of a feather flock together. Being mobbed by a group of these rude, loud and violent people traumatises their multiple victims.
The image of the psychopath is inacurrate. They're actually quite calm before, during and after their action.
This was well explained and I hope more and more awareness in mental health is taken more serious in my country🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I am sorry I feel that it is important for me to let you know this was explained very poorly. Minute things are explained correctly, but so much is left out, so much is not explained correctly. Please find other videos.
I have found that here in the US mental health is taken fairly seriously, but access to treatment is very lacking.
I did not know there was a difference. All three have interchangeable characteristics with one another. Does anyone really need to learn how to deal with them other than just don't deal with them.😮
Excellent work. Thank you !!!🎉
Thank you for keeping the truth about narcissism to 2. I had to nose divine into this since I had to understand my toxic marriage and everything I read over the past 5 years (even though I just left 1 year ago) always talked about 2. It was not until social media pick up and started to create multiple categories which then in my eye misdirected from the truth.
There was these three categories prior social media.
Watching this video to figure out what kind of cruel person I am
Very educational information.
Thanks for this information!
I would think that giving these kinds of people help, would also help them to utilize their condition better
Most of them won't want help, they think there's nothing wrong with them.
It seems like all the good people are gone.
manic narcissist victim survivor here. the struggles experienced have set me back in life. it took years to make as much progress as I have but something is still missing preventing my ability to confidently live my life is there a store that sells self-esteem and or confidence understand I might have to get it programmed to my frequency a lot like the anti-theft system and a car key all joking aside are there any free strategies that I could use
can you talk about bipolar?
Already working on it!
Bpd vs bipolar
It sucks that so many psychopaths hold so baby positions of power. I have a problem with making them feel threatened
I give narcissist a taste of their own medicine. I feel wrong most times. But sometimes , I… like it.
But I would never want to hurt those who don’t harm me. I’d be lying if I said I don’t seek revenge.
we need to bring back common confusion
I just found this channel and I have to say it was pleasant suprise
Thanks so much!!
I sort of wonder if I am a Narcissist given these traits that I have just heard. But no one has ever called me that and I have an ability to make good friendships which do last. I will say I do care about how other people see me but at the same time I do care how I view other people so I guess that answers my own question. I am not a Narcissist
With a spongebob profile? no don’t worry
I think I've only had experiences with psychopaths. They are the worst ppl ever. They can cover their lack of empathy well. They trick you into thinking you're crazy for suspecting that.
"The sociopath manipulates by saying he's going to kill himself" Yes, I'm in contact with one since two years and he lies about being a soldier whos out on a mission and "I may get killed today, I've arranged for my friend to let you know if I do" I think thats the part of him that needs reassurance that he matters to others due to his deep pathological insecurity. We're talking a guy thats so insecure he doesnt even dare to meet. He doesnt even dare to show his face, only his body and very few times bc its welltrained. Imagine to live with that level of insecurity.
I think I met someone who exhibited those behaviors that you described, deeply insecure about himself so he adopts a false superiority complex in attempts to conceal it. Overall in person he comes across as sociable to a superficial level, empathetic, and fairly considerate. But when talking to him indirectly by text he tends to come off as rather more contemplative, reserved, cunning, shrewd, arrogant, critical, judgmental, callous/lack of empathy, and texts me sardonic belittling comments when I stand up for myself..which later in person he would say he is only joking. And he might have also been a little sadistic. It dawned on me today that the person I'm describing here actually presented more characteristics of a Dark Empath. Therefore he tends to possess little bit of Machivellian, Narcissistic, and Psychopathic traits. 😐
@@spookyanalyst9432 "Only joking" cant take the responsability for what he said and that it hurt you, puts the blame on you for not being able to take a joke, arrogance, critical, sadistic.. You're describing a covert narcissist. Does he bring sad stories alot? Is he the guy who "I aaalways do my absolute best to ot judge others or be mean..." --> Insert fake tear?
I'm Psychopath and my girl is sociopath. According to given traits😕!
In that case, why do you care? jk lol
Yeah no I'm also scared, hey but I feel a long lasting guilt when I realise I hurt someone. When I realise, not that I usually do
The thing to keep in mind is that these labels are a blanket term that can’t fully capture an individual, just like schizophrenia is unique to every person who has it, the same can be said of the dark triad. My ex wife is schizophrenic, my older brother is a sociopath (diagnosed) and I’m pretty sure I’m a dark empath. Doesn’t make any of us bad people. Nor does it mean all of these traits are present. If you think you fall into this category, do your own research, come to your conclusions, and most importantly don’t let it define you. It’s possible to feel love, I do. It’s possible to feel empathy, just in different ways than what’s socially acceptable
Ah yes, the perfect couple
that's something a psychopath wouldn't say
I don't think you need a psychological diagnosis to be a narcissist. They tend to be easy to spot.
As someone with ASPD, I love bursting the bubble of narcissists, humiliating them in front of others. Whenever I meet one I try to figure out what their biggest insecurity is so I can pick at it till I’ve worn away their sanity 😂
I’m pretty sure I’m a sociopath or psychopath
You should see a docter
@@laandafam4565 why
congrats 🥳
@@Nikoisgreat bruh?
Do you feel any human compassion?
Also, as it is a spectrum there are clusters within the spectrum. Narcissism is one spectrum. There are multiple types of narcissistic personality disorder such as Covert,. Overt, Malignant and Grandiose to name a few.
these labels describe everyone - it is is just a spectrum. i have yet to meet someone who wasn't self centered to some degree or another, because everyone is a 'self' -- everyone refers to themselves as "i" or "me' -- this is normal-- everyone is the self. you see in this universe life feeds on life- a living organism can only sustain itself on the destruction of some other living organism, so where this all comes from. if no one were 'selfish', then no one would survive long enough to reproduce, creating more 'selfish' organisms and so on. even cooperation and socialization are actually selfish individuals pooling their self interests together for mutual defense, support and so on
What is it called when a person always has to have people around them? Almost like a gang of people to do things with?
Sometimes these traits, or patterns, as i prefer to view them, can be a result of some serious underdevelopment/illness. True. But sometimes these empathic feelings might be blocked by the very same amygdala due to being marked as "leading to pain" based on what the person survived in their childhood. This, at least, is the reason why I don't like these labels at all.
Some narcissists and sociopaths, and probably even psychopaths, ARE really victims, not just pretending to be ones every time they get "attacked" - or so they overdramatically feel based on prev experience. You see, its especially easy to fall into that type of denial and aggression patterns when you're young and still trying to find your place whilst not knowing much about neither society, nor humans, not even yourself. And those in contact with such people, instead of trying to show some empathy and genuinely communicate such persons out of it step by step, oftentimes prefer to just see it as a big red flag, which of course causes additional distress in those poor sunk-in-denial creatures, and voila, you have lifelong bitterness and ocassional violence. Not their job thus not their fault I guess, but so much for the empathy, aye?
Been there, somewhere in between sociopath and narcissist, based on explaination. 36yo, still am. Did i kill or seriously injure someone? Not really, no, i'm repulsed by the very thought. But do I feel like I could, based on circumstances? Yep. So... yeah, trying to figure the way out. For now it looks like my apathy was a mistake and organising my own life might help: scheduling time, breaking down desires into smaller tasks for reinforcement effect, and so on, classical "transform your life" stuff. Cause i've wasted too much time just expecting eveyone to value me just for breathing, bitching when they didn't, while excusing myself for not striving to just DO something with the glowing eyes, thus to give myself a reason for self-respect. This in turn caused me to ignore the others feelings and needs, which in turn of course drops my value to a negative in their eyes, a simple circle. Neurotic gravity loop of a kind.
Oh well. Wish me patience and luck. And I hope someone younger who experiences similar issues will find this helpful, luck to ya too. The world is not your enemy, bros and sis. Life's hard, but get a helmet and carry on, you can be good and most people can appreciate this.
Everyone should watch for faking personality. I learned that's always to be watched for
There seems to be an observational issue between what the conditions are like or cause, and then what methods these people use to live with their conditions. Crime or taking advantage of people 'are useful'; which is why so-called normal people also do lots of crime and take advantage of other people too.
What are your thoughts about the current theory that therapy may only make psychopaths better at manipulation?
If you add a label and you are young and insecure doesn’t mean you are that way. Constant love from family and friends is the best answer in my understanding. Not labelling or abandoning your family in a time of need or insecurity is the best bet.
Therapy definitely made my ex better at manipulation
I agree with this theory, these type of ppl are seriously cunning, manipulative and unscrupulous, providing them with information sessions ( psychiatry) will arm and enable them to better camouflage themselves and use the knowledge to prey on and take down their targets.
I have personal experience with this, and I am highly skeptical with the notion that these ppl can be treated.
They are what they are, I liken it to trying to rehabilitate a shark so it behaves as a dolphin. A predator is a predator, treat it as a gentle, friendly creature at your own risk but don’t be surprised when it attacks, it is just acting in line with its true nature.
thats exactly why most therapists wont see certain diagnosed people, its not a theory its a known fact
I feel lie a lot doesn’t make sense a lot of the time. I know a friend of mine, lie a lot to just not get punished or for the face.
I remember there was one time we were trying to find a place picnic, but we can’t found one so we lied an obviously lie to make our situation looks better, but what it actually does is make it more stupid cause everyone knew there is no such a place in my home town.
But god damn I still consider the lies she had told is still at a massive level, even when I grow up. It’s like drinking or eating she does so much, she has a caring farther, I wonder maybe her mom is too strict for her to say the truth.
Wellness Lenses: I URGE you to repeat this video, but Add Asperger's Syndrome. What's going on inside the head of us "A.S." people is clearly different but what the rest of the world sees may appear to fit one of these others. I tend to think we Aspergers CAUSE other people to turn into Sociopaths. I've had several "best friends" want to kill me because THEY CAN'T READ ME correctly. It's as ridiculous as a man telling his wife, "Hey honey, during the half-time show I'm running to the store for more beer." And she replies, "OH! So you think my thighs are too fat!" I genuinely have worn a voice recorder when I interact with someone and on one occasion it kept me out of jail.
Thank you for your suggestions, will add to the list of future topics!
I suffer from cheeseburgers syndrome myself.
After knowing narcs all my life I got an asperger friend (did not know it at the time.) The confusion I felt! I knew this person had empathy but often the importance of his tasks, routines, interests etc felt like arrogance 😅. Turn out I was exactly the kind of person suitable as friend for aspergers, secure, empathic and moral, but it was the most confusing experience ever! What I liked was that he always told the truth sometimes too harshly but still 😂after narcs that was refreshing! I also knew he had empathy since I saw his reaction to a pic of an old lady, and so on, he could get really teary if someone was sad too. My looong experience of difficult people had made me very patient so I never wanted to kill him 😂but I can say one thing, because I knew he was not a narc but showed similar traits made me confused to the extreme, until I understood what he had! Fortunately I liked the friendship so my main goal all the time was to understand and help him. Had I known before, maybe I had been more considerate, no... I was already, but I would have had less questions in my mind. What I learned? To have my own time and barriers too i.e to love myself finally. And he said I have taught him how to show love to people. So I guess it was good for us both in the end.
I think this really makes it look possible to have a healthy relationship with a narcissist… you can’t! Don’t excuse this behavior they enjoy the game you are a toy they will always cheat just stay away from
Them, they are extremely dangerous for your life and wellbeing
💙🙏🏽Many Thanks & Shared🙏🏽💙
Thank you so much!
Narcissists who have tendencies to harm others, in my opinion they are psychopaths. These kind narcissists of narcissists, they know how to kill others without touching. Most of them will do lies, false accusations to their targets until their targets lost their job, lost their support system, lost their mind.
Thank you for teaching us about difference in these just watched some of your other videos interesting ! education to help others we need !🙏
I’m not saying NOT to intervene if you think someone is dating a narcissist/socio/psychopath, but don’t be surprised if your efforts get you nowhere. I suppose it will always at least help them think about it.
Narc level 1
Socio level 2
Psycho Boss level
I believe my spouse has a touch of narcissistic behavior. He can be extremely charming but because there are things he has trouble doing because of a lack of education, he gets frustrated and nasty and one-sided about most things. He can express his human emotions well ( cry, sad, hurt , pain ect...) but can't seem to feel for the other person who may have gone through similar experiences and gets mad when confronted with the inconsiderate behavior.
My father’s a “malignant narcissist”.
That must’ve been so difficult
@@wellnesslenses It’s still ongoing, my mother and him are split thankfully.
What are you waiting for?.
RUN 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️
I would like you read the book "Without Conscience" Robert Hare.
Zero contact forever.
Life is beautiful 🌹