This is something else man. This is the kind of grimdark fiction that blows the entire universe of 40k out the water. It always comes from niche games too. Especially game manuals. Archimedean Dynasty, Shadow Empire, Earth 2150, and more. Thank you for this.
As someone who dabbled in the old forums and played a bit of this online, I am happy to see this game still get some love. The compendium is a work of art!
I've probably said this before on your other SS videos, but you're a true king chad for these. They're simple, well done, and cover what is a criminally underlooked piece of sci-fi lore.
Cool video, I never knew that the Metagens "helped' us out that way with the recon and yea it's heavily implied without actually coming out and saying it that the timeline is the same both campaigns just with a few differences. One small thing I found interesting was that Prometheus was so bent on exterminating humanity but spared and assimilated that group of weird cynical hackers the "Dystopian SNO-MEN" due to their efficient use and overall love to technology. PS poor Melanie.
Thank you for this, I used to play this as a child, and I loved it. And have fond memories of it. But I did not remember what a wonderful and complex story it had.
My bad on this one, this is a reupload of the same Starsiege video from yesterday. There seemed to be a weird audio bug for the previous video which bothered me enough to try and fix it.
I never got to play Starsiege (Tribes was my first experience with the setting), so this was very interesting to me. I'll need to watch the other videos you made soon. You are a very captivating narrator and have a good voice for it. I look forward to seeing more from you in the future. c:
Love this. First of these I've seen but you did great work on this one! So much nostalgia in this game, would love to see these early games make their way into modern releases.
damn im amazed not many views man, fantastic work, played the original games back in the day, even still have the user manual with its rediculous amount of backstory :P
The good ole days of modding. My very first adjustment to computer code was dramatically increasing the range on the mortar. I learned more useful information getting computers to play games with my friends in my professional career than all that junk about mitochondria. Though now a degree in genetics is looking f-i-i-i-n-e
ExoSquad! Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time. That actually might be a good idea, but we don't get Peacock where I am and none of the streaming services seem to carry it. But that is something worth looking into down the road.
Thank you. Loved this game. Multiplayer was fun. And I've been convinced for over a decade this would be a great movie. You definitely scratched the itch
This game was soooooo immersive. It’s the first PC game I ever played and I loved the H3LL out of it. Funny though, I remember hearing Harabec’s voice thinking, “That guy is doing a poor job at sounding like Mark Hamill.” Yea, I know...smh.
They did other stuff not covered in this video as well. They would mount loudspeakers/comms arrays to their HERCs and play the screams of their torture victims at max volume to unnerve the humans. Poisoned food and water supplies where they couldn't crack the defenses and stuff too.
I was ranked 97th on the Shifter V1 servers! I burned through every ink cartridge I could get my hands on printing off all the lore. I fucking love the futuristic wild west frontier aesthetic. Tribes, Total Annihilation (Planetary Annihilation now) Command and Conquer, Soldier of Fortune, Rainbow Six (OG) Warcrafts I-III. Fuck.... soon.... soon I will be able to play video games again. I'm still itching for RDR2 ever since I saw the South Park Episode lol. Thanks for making this man, oh shit Warhammer! that was my name, before I knew what games workshop was.
Fantastic yet again! Your style reminds me of Tex from @BlackPantsLegion but without all the meme-ing. You do great work and I can’t wait to see what you do next! Any bucket-list projects or things you want to touch on eventually?
Thanks a lot! I'd be lying if I said I didn't take inspiration from Tex and the Legion on how to do this kind of thing. In terms of bucket list projects, I'm not sure I can think of anything that I'm not already doing now. But I'm sure something will come up eventually.
@@MacsLore Fair enough! Well, if you just so HAPPENED to do more Wing Commander stuff (Terran-Kilrathi war??) I’m sure you’d have an appreciative audience!
While I'm here commenting, Joey ST on Twitter sent me a very interesting essay speculating what The Masters (You know them, right?) true purpose in The Devastation and why they left the Tharsis Cache and why its tech was so easy to adapt to Human use. Its good stuff, and he points to direct sources that led him to this line of speculation and even pulls stuff from the Tribes fiction guide. Starsiege doesn't get much lore theorizing (or any for that matter). So its worth a look, you can check it out here: medium.com/@joeysisco/starsiege-the-masters-plan-a75591023278
Could you cover the whole backstory of starsiege and earthsiege? I have a doc file that covers the entire timeline from ours all the way to tribes. Its a great read. Id love a video so much on it. Its the original canon of the entire series.
Eventually, yes. I have the complete writers guide for both SS and the Tribes 1-era, a setting outline by Blake Hutchins for SS:2845, and random bits along with the timeline that the old Starsiege Universe worked on with Blake. The main thing is choosing which parts to cover and finding visual elements that would work.
The Starsiege Discord was trying to plug some new version of an all-in-one Starsiege install. I've never tried it, as I use a much older version, but you can look into it yourself at starsiegeplayers.com/download
The cybrid campaign is cannon along with the human. They run along the same line just during different time points within the starsiege. Its something that drives me crazy that so many don't actually look deeper and notice this. Its the same story just from different perspectives. Bek and Caanon are known to have look-a-likes or stand ins. The bek and caanon you kill in the cybrid campaign aren't the real ones. The real ones were on the mission cardinal spear. Your next killed the look-a-likes. Most of this can be found in the logs and text within the game. But some of it is within one campaign, where the other bit of information is in the other. Great video otherwise and this is very common.
While it's not beyond the realm of possibility that they had stand-ins for Harabec & Caanon, I dont believe I've seen anything that's been stated in the O-Web entries or the Writers Guide thats implied or even mentioned their usage. Even if it was true, it still doesn't explain the differences in how the Melanie event plays out depending on which campaign you're playing, the arrival of Alliance forces on Earth, the Cybrids using Trojan Horse children to destroy Dies Irae ships , and the placement of a large asteroid in the pathway of the Dies Irae beam forcing the Alliance to call the project a failure. Unless there really is an official document or recorded verdict on this from an official source that I haven't seen, I'm still inclined to believe that the campaigns are alternate timelines that are almost identical and not one timeline.
Yeah, as far as I know they own it all. It was a package deal when they made the offer for Tribes. Hell, I think it even might have included Hunter Hunted & Stellar 7/Nova 9 .
So I’ve been recently watching your stuff (most especially that Homeworld stuff, absolutely fantastic) and I’ve only realized that the image is Kongou so cheers to another Kongou enjoyer and your amazing stuff!
'Canaan and his squad defeated the dark intellect'
Tyris Larkin: the **fuck**
This is something else man. This is the kind of grimdark fiction that blows the entire universe of 40k out the water. It always comes from niche games too. Especially game manuals. Archimedean Dynasty, Shadow Empire, Earth 2150, and more. Thank you for this.
Starbound's Ruin: "*Ahem* ...tentacles?"
Halo's Covenant: "I will glass Earth. >:V"
Starsiege's Cybrids: *destroying hospitals, targeting medics, and destroying temples* "War crimes? What's that?"
Dont forget their liquification of the Human , aka children.
As someone who dabbled in the old forums and played a bit of this online, I am happy to see this game still get some love. The compendium is a work of art!
I've probably said this before on your other SS videos, but you're a true king chad for these.
They're simple, well done, and cover what is a criminally underlooked piece of sci-fi lore.
Christ and Hunter, this brings back memories.
The Hunter will return.
Earthsiege and Missionforce: Cyberstorm were great games in the setting as well.
You're a great narrator.
Cool video, I never knew that the Metagens "helped' us out that way with the recon and yea it's heavily implied without actually coming out and saying it that the timeline is the same both campaigns just with a few differences. One small thing I found interesting was that Prometheus was so bent on exterminating humanity but spared and assimilated that group of weird cynical hackers the "Dystopian SNO-MEN" due to their efficient use and overall love to technology. PS poor Melanie.
I've never played any of the Starsiege games, but I absolutely loved your lore videos and watched them all! Thanks!
You should; it's a great game, though the world building is probably the best part.
Bit of a bitch to get it running on modern OSes though
Thank you for this, I used to play this as a child, and I loved it. And have fond memories of it. But I did not remember what a wonderful and complex story it had.
Subscribed. Starsiege/Earthsiege and Freespace were my go-to games growing up, this is awesome.
All I remember was how awesome Mission Force Cyberstorm was to a 12 year old me.
Great video! Starsiege is so underappreciated!
Thanks! And yeah, it's a shame Starsiege doesnt get much exposure except for maybe the occasional lets play.
I wholeheartedly agree!
Nice to see this old game get some lore love.
My bad on this one, this is a reupload of the same Starsiege video from yesterday. There seemed to be a weird audio bug for the previous video which bothered me enough to try and fix it.
I never got to play Starsiege (Tribes was my first experience with the setting), so this was very interesting to me. I'll need to watch the other videos you made soon. You are a very captivating narrator and have a good voice for it. I look forward to seeing more from you in the future. c:
Thanks!
Been with starsiege since 1999
At 5 years old
Never gonna give it up
Love this. First of these I've seen but you did great work on this one! So much nostalgia in this game, would love to see these early games make their way into modern releases.
damn im amazed not many views man, fantastic work, played the original games back in the day, even still have the user manual with its rediculous amount of backstory :P
This was awesome...I like how you mixed the Cybrid campaign into the story. Very entertaining...
The good ole days of modding. My very first adjustment to computer code was dramatically increasing the range on the mortar. I learned more useful information getting computers to play games with my friends in my professional career than all that junk about mitochondria. Though now a degree in genetics is looking f-i-i-i-n-e
hi there is another underrated sci fi mech universe called exosquad it currently streams on peacock the show has a great story and lore to it
ExoSquad! Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time. That actually might be a good idea, but we don't get Peacock where I am and none of the streaming services seem to carry it. But that is something worth looking into down the road.
@@MacsLore thank you
I need me some Neo Sapiens! ExoSquad was absolutely fantastic.
Thank you. Loved this game. Multiplayer was fun. And I've been convinced for over a decade this would be a great movie. You definitely scratched the itch
This game was soooooo immersive. It’s the first PC game I ever played and I loved the H3LL out of it.
Funny though, I remember hearing Harabec’s voice thinking, “That guy is doing a poor job at sounding like Mark Hamill.” Yea, I know...smh.
15:27 Jesus fuck that's fucked up
They did other stuff not covered in this video as well.
They would mount loudspeakers/comms arrays to their HERCs and play the screams of their torture victims at max volume to unnerve the humans.
Poisoned food and water supplies where they couldn't crack the defenses and stuff too.
I was ranked 97th on the Shifter V1 servers! I burned through every ink cartridge I could get my hands on printing off all the lore. I fucking love the futuristic wild west frontier aesthetic. Tribes, Total Annihilation (Planetary Annihilation now) Command and Conquer, Soldier of Fortune, Rainbow Six (OG) Warcrafts I-III. Fuck.... soon.... soon I will be able to play video games again. I'm still itching for RDR2 ever since I saw the South Park Episode lol. Thanks for making this man, oh shit Warhammer! that was my name, before I knew what games workshop was.
Even though this is differently my generation game I had never heard of this universe thanks for the vids. =)
I loved this game back in the day, it's definitely an IP fit for resurrection (maybe merging it with Tribes).
Fantastic yet again! Your style reminds me of Tex from @BlackPantsLegion but without all the meme-ing. You do great work and I can’t wait to see what you do next! Any bucket-list projects or things you want to touch on eventually?
Thanks a lot! I'd be lying if I said I didn't take inspiration from Tex and the Legion on how to do this kind of thing. In terms of bucket list projects, I'm not sure I can think of anything that I'm not already doing now. But I'm sure something will come up eventually.
@@MacsLore Fair enough! Well, if you just so HAPPENED to do more Wing Commander stuff (Terran-Kilrathi war??) I’m sure you’d have an appreciative audience!
Oh, I'm nowhere near done with the Wing Commander universe. There's way too much stuff to cover in it to stop now.
Subscribed! I miss Starsiege!
Growing up with it as a pre-teen was quite something back in the day.
This was great! I was a player back in the day when it first came out. [TFC]Wolfe~PPt~
The Testcase Fan Club? Now there' a name I haven't heard in a very long time.
@@MacsLore we are still active on facebook, well those of us still alive anyway lol we are all old men and women now
Great video. Cannot wait for next!
There's a discord where u can still download this game for windows
I played this game so much online and miss it lol. I loved it as an alternative to Mechwarrior
While I'm here commenting, Joey ST on Twitter sent me a very interesting essay speculating what The Masters (You know them, right?) true purpose in The Devastation and why they left the Tharsis Cache and why its tech was so easy to adapt to Human use. Its good stuff, and he points to direct sources that led him to this line of speculation and even pulls stuff from the Tribes fiction guide.
Starsiege doesn't get much lore theorizing (or any for that matter). So its worth a look, you can check it out here: medium.com/@joeysisco/starsiege-the-masters-plan-a75591023278
Thank you very much. Guess what......weither its unity, unreal engine, or Source, The Hunter will return soon.....that is all I will say for now.
Could you cover the whole backstory of starsiege and earthsiege? I have a doc file that covers the entire timeline from ours all the way to tribes. Its a great read. Id love a video so much on it. Its the original canon of the entire series.
Eventually, yes. I have the complete writers guide for both SS and the Tribes 1-era, a setting outline by Blake Hutchins for SS:2845, and random bits along with the timeline that the old Starsiege Universe worked on with Blake. The main thing is choosing which parts to cover and finding visual elements that would work.
I wish they would add it to GOG cant even buy this anymore your excellent videos make me wanna play
The Starsiege Discord was trying to plug some new version of an all-in-one Starsiege install. I've never tried it, as I use a much older version, but you can look into it yourself at starsiegeplayers.com/download
ah pls do a tribes video now that theres a new tribes game announced within the new starsiege trilogy thats being worked on
God I still play this game constantly
Praise First-Thought/Giver-of-Will
Acknowledge\\Submit
What's the name of the song\band at the ending?
I played. And I enjoyed the game.
The cybrid campaign is cannon along with the human. They run along the same line just during different time points within the starsiege. Its something that drives me crazy that so many don't actually look deeper and notice this. Its the same story just from different perspectives. Bek and Caanon are known to have look-a-likes or stand ins. The bek and caanon you kill in the cybrid campaign aren't the real ones. The real ones were on the mission cardinal spear. Your next killed the look-a-likes. Most of this can be found in the logs and text within the game. But some of it is within one campaign, where the other bit of information is in the other.
Great video otherwise and this is very common.
While it's not beyond the realm of possibility that they had stand-ins for Harabec & Caanon, I dont believe I've seen anything that's been stated in the O-Web entries or the Writers Guide thats implied or even mentioned their usage. Even if it was true, it still doesn't explain the differences in how the Melanie event plays out depending on which campaign you're playing, the arrival of Alliance forces on Earth, the Cybrids using Trojan Horse children to destroy Dies Irae ships , and the placement of a large asteroid in the pathway of the Dies Irae beam forcing the Alliance to call the project a failure.
Unless there really is an official document or recorded verdict on this from an official source that I haven't seen, I'm still inclined to believe that the campaigns are alternate timelines that are almost identical and not one timeline.
If Battletech is slowly coming back, why doesn't Starsiege/Tribes come back too.
I wish. Hi-Rez only has the IP because they were a package deal with Tribes. The last I heard they were 'only' interested in developing for Tribes.
It's better this way. A modern game would just be endless cutscenes of people sitting around talking.
I was the annoying 9 year old towards the games death who went by Tom Clansey, misspelled
16:27
The evil bastards
They forgot to tell us that Elon Musk warned us about the Cybrids.😂
It's a shame hi-rez owns this now (Probably, by way of tribes?), and hi-rez only does lootbox money-print games and not great single player stories.
Yeah, as far as I know they own it all. It was a package deal when they made the offer for Tribes. Hell, I think it even might have included Hunter Hunted & Stellar 7/Nova 9 .
So I’ve been recently watching your stuff (most especially that Homeworld stuff, absolutely fantastic) and I’ve only realized that the image is Kongou so cheers to another Kongou enjoyer and your amazing stuff!
Burning Love is the only love for me, fellow man of culture.
@@MacsLore Hell yeah! Banningu Rabu all the way!