Add solar panels to the top of the fuselage, and maybe a windmill on the tail. Turn the wing area into a sort of garden and maybe the other wing into a deck or shower area
My concept was to seek to acquire land adjacent to pinal airpark in AZ. then aircraft could be towed to adjacent land and have some valuable components, like landing gear, removed. I even visited the boneyard with my girlfriend, got a tour, went inside a boneyard 767. The guys showing us around were incredibly friendly and encouraging. I would love to build a community of people who are interested in such a project, theres well over 100 airliners at pinal at various stages of decommissioning. Doing such a project at scale could be alot more cost effective per home...a village of dozens of airliners would be unprecedented but actually seems like somewhat of a possible reality
Good job Jon! You should make more videos like this. I'm pretty sure if you post regularly it will bring more people to watch and more budget to work with. You are a great storyteller, very natural with amazing sense of humor.
I wanted to also add that the power inverter system in a class A RV will work quite well in your aircraft body , it is designed to handle high current loads. What is good about your class A Rv is that you have multiple redundant systems , power inverter battery system, onan generator and 50 amp plug in . Now even better is the black and grey tanks since with those , your housing could be moved easily to new location . Moreover the water tank , stove and fridge all use redundant power systems. I happen to be an electronics engineer let me know if you need other ideas . You could get a lot of cheap parts and pieces from scrapped RVs . Most class A RVs have a full sized shower, sink and toilet . You can get old Class A rvs for cheap $$$ and the advantage of that is you can design this aircraft housing for students to be moveable. Even better is that there are class A rvs with bunk beds and washer dryer -think about that . Myself , I would do a 5th wheel hitch set up and make it into an RV . Hope this helps . A little engineering .
Retired aircraft are located in kingman Arizona. Some are actually still functional as they are usually when airlines retire aircraft that’s where they end up. If you are starting a airline then you should ask the staff in kingman Arizona cause they would have that aircraft type available for purchase once they are retired but still ask the airline or regional airline if you can buy it from them.
How fantastic! To maximize space, you could do a side aisle, similar to a train sleeper berth. Narrow tongue and groove used horizontally on the walls would maintain full use of width. Can't wait to see this finished, it's going to look amazing. Cabins look awesome, btw!
Suggestion: Keep wing engines etc with one side sticking out from trees as close to forest as possible, maybe deck with bar on that side away from forest. Stick other side into forest and build out into it it with elevated cabins leaving the interior of plane into forest with great views of it, keep interior of plane for historic/communal/social use use... Get some other plane to be center piece of social areas between cabins and DC-6 poking out of forest... social/bbq around it...
id make that DC-6 more of a community lounge area, or café study area etc. You already have living space with the cabins, so it would be a cool to hang out with fellow students inside the DC-6 Cafe.
G, day from Sydney Australia. Thanks for keeping me posted about this chapter in your life. * Thankfully your arm wasn't full thickness burn- burns straight in cold water, that's for sure. * When concreting a large area why span it "all the way" put in temporary formwork fill with concrete, then pull it out: considering expansion joint and fill next section. * Fuselage DC-6 main circuit breaker board and plumbing valves in convenient locations (freezing water pipes) Fill with polystyrene foam insulation and line with plywood (grey recess line between sheets) and laminate sheeting in all wet areas. No tiles on curved surfaces. 🌏🛩️ "You are one unit"
0:00 look at that bob and doug hat! 11:20 look at that big yellow beast. that's a big boy. 13:00 omgg :/ rough burn. 14:25 "don't let a CFI design plumbing systems". were you able to extract the PEX or is it just buried and abandoned? 17:40 do you wish you'd built the cabins in place? 21:00 did you test the radiant tubing before the concrete? 😆 22:20 whoa, DC3. 26:00 learnings of grey, brown, and black. I like it.
Absolutely beautiful. I really wish I could cruise on up there and donate a few thousand hours to your dream. For just a CFI it looks like damn good job to me. Keep up the good work
Thank you! it's a learning curve for sure....spending today thawing out some pipes that got put too close to the outside wall in one of the cabins when it got built. Certainly lots of little lessons like that I'm learning quick and hard
Wow - what an amazing project Jon / Steph - it's amazing what you've accomplished in such a short time. Can't wait to stop by and say hello soon. I'll submit some design ideas, and maybe with luck, you like it? Stay warm during the winter months... - fantastic!!
On a very serious note. Next time you have a chain hooked up to pull something heavy like that dozer, put a jacket or a heavy blanket on the chain about mid way. If that chain snaps with tension on it, it becomes very deadly. Seen cabs of construction and farm equipment split in two when the chain lets go. Just trying to keep you safe! Love the content, and would like to come fly up there soon. How do we find out about the rates?
Hey Chris! Good tip! I like the idea...I had one snap a few weeks ago finally and got pretty lucky, missed my face by an inch or two. Turns out the final drives on the excavator are stronger than the stick swinging in (wouldn't have guessed). heavy blanket at halfway would certainly have absorbed a lot of that
Interesting project. Maybe an idea for exterior, I think you should keep the wings attached (I saw you were taking them off), it will add on to the plane-house look and could also be a design feature. I know it takes a lot of space too, but fuselage only to me would look strange.
Unbelievable!! We moved from 1/8 acre to 11 last year...and although we did not buy an excavator we have had some working here...my friends sitting on their couches think I work too hard here making this place the way we want it...we bought into property not on the runway but a partial owner of a private airport I am thankful for the old paved runway and my old hangar not shiny like a few neighbors but at least doesn't need to be torn down like some others......seeing you build the 'cabins' is inspirational as I want to build a hangout in the woods...cabin is really not the word those are like small houses very impressive when you could have made old school cabin style.....I would love to come learn from you and my wife just wants to see Alaska
Come on up and visit! Ya, 11 acres can certainly be a lot of work. We went from 1/10 of an acre to 115. It's easily a full time job for one person between all the seasons and runway mx, with the cabin and extra runway construction I could keep a crew of 4-6 busy year round. Good luck with the land!
You could use the toilets and showers from a class A RV . Should be pretty easy to retrofit . You could also use some other things from a class A Rv - fridge , stove and water heater . All of these items are made to run on batteries , generator and AC line . Could you guys use an advanced ground school instructor ?
Now this is epic. Can't wait! I've seen some of these in Anchorage and always thought they were cool. Can't wait to see if you are just going to use it as a fun thing to have on a property or even try to get it in the air again?
Love this project! You are going to have something worthy of your dreams when its fully functional. I would love to come up and do some training with you one day!
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 another Bearhawk? I was gonna guess Rans s21, but if it's got more power than a Kitfox, it probably isn't powered by the ubiquitous Rotax 912 series. I am really enjoying seeing your dreams come alive!! Thank you so much for sharing!! What an amazing place and amazing lifestyle you and Steph are building for yourselves!! Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
Hi Jon, Really enjoyed the video, admire your vision, fantastic place, cannot wait to see the finished product. BTW - Not sure if I missed it, but where in Alaska is your Pilot Lodge? Best regards Rob :)
Bench down, one bucket deep by one bucket wide and as many as required. The trench will look like a giant staircase on either side. You are way too deep to trust that the vertical sides of your trenches will hold. If one fails, it will come quick and anyone in the hole is dead. You have to hand dig them out, the machine will kill them if you try to use it, you will never get to them in time. That deep though, the weight of the soil falling on them will do the job. Anyone who jumps in the tench to start digging is at risk of getting buried as well. Am I just another internet expert? No, I have personally been on a job where a guy was buried. That guy was the owners son who was in a hurry to get one more pipe at the end of the day.
Do you possibly have some flight connections that we could partner with for flying dogs back and forth to the lower 48? We have a pet transport company (Paw Paws Express) and we cannot fly our clients snubnosed or oversized dogs to and from Alaska (English Bulldogs, Staffordshires, American Bulldogs, etc are all banned from commercial airlines)
I'd call Evert's and see if they have the ability to move live animals as cargo, otherwise only other option I could think of would be chartering a 206 for around $15-16k from ANC to SEA
Well obviously just using the DC6 to smuggle huge loads of some sort of illicit material from central America of course. ;) ...but ya, actually just working about 80-100 hours a week. I still flight instruct part time, but likely would not be able to finance everything just as a CFI working a 40hr week.
We do need someone to volunteer to come wire up the controls in the cockpit to flight sim controls! Hoping to turn the cockpit into a functioning simulator
Oh my, standing in those trenches without something to stabilize the walls is SUPER dangerous...I can't say it enough SUPER dangerous. That deep down if there is a cave-in, you are done. Having an excavator close to "dig" someone out isn't really a plan either. I hope you are all done with that work. I think you should stick to CFI'ing and stay away from the construction industry. From what I have seen you have flying safety down pretty well. Best of luck on your big plans...it will really be something when it is all done.
Add solar panels to the top of the fuselage, and maybe a windmill on the tail. Turn the wing area into a sort of garden and maybe the other wing into a deck or shower area
My concept was to seek to acquire land adjacent to pinal airpark in AZ. then aircraft could be towed to adjacent land and have some valuable components, like landing gear, removed. I even visited the boneyard with my girlfriend, got a tour, went inside a boneyard 767. The guys showing us around were incredibly friendly and encouraging. I would love to build a community of people who are interested in such a project, theres well over 100 airliners at pinal at various stages of decommissioning. Doing such a project at scale could be alot more cost effective per home...a village of dozens of airliners would be unprecedented but actually seems like somewhat of a possible reality
Good job Jon!
You should make more videos like this. I'm pretty sure if you post regularly it will bring more people to watch and more budget to work with. You are a great storyteller, very natural with amazing sense of humor.
Thank you! Hope to have some updates for everyone soon!
I wanted to also add that the power inverter system in a class A RV will work quite well in your aircraft body , it is designed to handle high current loads. What is good about your class A Rv is that you have multiple redundant systems , power inverter battery system, onan generator and 50 amp plug in . Now even better is the black and grey tanks since with those , your housing could be moved easily to new location . Moreover the water tank , stove and fridge all use redundant power systems. I happen to be an electronics engineer let me know if you need other ideas . You could get a lot of cheap parts and pieces from scrapped RVs . Most class A RVs have a full sized shower, sink and toilet . You can get old Class A rvs for cheap $$$ and the advantage of that is you can design this aircraft housing for students to be moveable. Even better is that there are class A rvs with bunk beds and washer dryer -think about that . Myself , I would do a 5th wheel hitch set up and make it into an RV . Hope this helps . A little engineering .
WOW. It's been my dream to convert an airliner to a home. this is so inspiring
Very cool Jon ! I can't wait to head on up there and check it all out !! :)
Little dogs are better than big dogs the little dogs are so brave and will wake u up all the time
Check out some of the bus conversion people generally known as “Van Life”. The concept is very similar to what you are trying to do.
Retired aircraft are located in kingman Arizona. Some are actually still functional as they are usually when airlines retire aircraft that’s where they end up. If you are starting a airline then you should ask the staff in kingman Arizona cause they would have that aircraft type available for purchase once they are retired but still ask the airline or regional airline if you can buy it from them.
Very cool project! I remember that airplane from when I used to fly out of FAI in the early 80’s.
how about making the plane cockpit into a flight simulator?
How fantastic! To maximize space, you could do a side aisle, similar to a train sleeper berth. Narrow tongue and groove used horizontally on the walls would maintain full use of width. Can't wait to see this finished, it's going to look amazing. Cabins look awesome, btw!
Thanks for the tips! Thinking T&G or some sort of shiplap. Thank you!
Narrowboat layouts might give you some inspiration, pretty similar dimensions!
I'll check it out!
So, shoot first and ask questions later eh? Might end up being an incredible project, can't wait to see it.
I was working the day they hauled the plane away, it was really impressive seeing it being disassembled and hauled away
Suggestion: Keep wing engines etc with one side sticking out from trees as close to forest as possible, maybe deck with bar on that side away from forest. Stick other side into forest and build out into it it with elevated cabins leaving the interior of plane into forest with great views of it, keep interior of plane for historic/communal/social use use... Get some other plane to be center piece of social areas between cabins and DC-6 poking out of forest... social/bbq around it...
Cool idea!
go for it!
ultralight house "" ,
treasure hidden at that work time, got my approval:)
I think every airplane needs a walkout basement.
lol...via the belly cargo doors?
id make that DC-6 more of a community lounge area, or café study area etc. You already have living space with the cabins, so it would be a cool to hang out with fellow students inside the DC-6 Cafe.
Funny you mentioned DC9 at the end instead of DC6....stay tuned and see what else shows up on the property ;)
G, day from Sydney Australia.
Thanks for keeping me posted about this chapter in your life.
* Thankfully your arm wasn't full thickness burn- burns straight in cold water, that's for sure.
* When concreting a large area why span it "all the way" put in temporary formwork fill with concrete, then pull it out: considering expansion joint and fill next section.
* Fuselage DC-6 main circuit breaker board and plumbing valves in convenient locations (freezing water pipes) Fill with polystyrene foam insulation and line with plywood (grey recess line between sheets) and laminate sheeting in all wet areas. No tiles on curved surfaces.
🌏🛩️ "You are one unit"
0:00 look at that bob and doug hat!
11:20 look at that big yellow beast. that's a big boy.
13:00 omgg :/ rough burn.
14:25 "don't let a CFI design plumbing systems". were you able to extract the PEX or is it just buried and abandoned?
17:40 do you wish you'd built the cabins in place?
21:00 did you test the radiant tubing before the concrete? 😆
22:20 whoa, DC3.
26:00 learnings of grey, brown, and black. I like it.
Absolutely beautiful. I really wish I could cruise on up there and donate a few thousand hours to your dream. For just a CFI it looks like damn good job to me. Keep up the good work
Thank you! it's a learning curve for sure....spending today thawing out some pipes that got put too close to the outside wall in one of the cabins when it got built. Certainly lots of little lessons like that I'm learning quick and hard
Wow - what an amazing project Jon / Steph - it's amazing what you've accomplished in such a short time. Can't wait to stop by and say hello soon. I'll submit some design ideas, and maybe with luck, you like it? Stay warm during the winter months... - fantastic!!
17:31 Holy crap that guy took a chance just to save 3 minutes!
On a very serious note. Next time you have a chain hooked up to pull something heavy like that dozer, put a jacket or a heavy blanket on the chain about mid way. If that chain snaps with tension on it, it becomes very deadly. Seen cabs of construction and farm equipment split in two when the chain lets go. Just trying to keep you safe! Love the content, and would like to come fly up there soon. How do we find out about the rates?
Hey Chris! Good tip! I like the idea...I had one snap a few weeks ago finally and got pretty lucky, missed my face by an inch or two. Turns out the final drives on the excavator are stronger than the stick swinging in (wouldn't have guessed). heavy blanket at halfway would certainly have absorbed a lot of that
Chains are the same as steel cables?
Kenotic energy?
🌏🤪
The next time I’m near the BGQ I’ll take a look for it. Can’t be to hard to find.
HOBBIT theme!!! already round -- sweet
Can't wait to see the Video and catch up with your plans for your empire...awesome news...
Thank you! It's exciting to share with everyone! Thanks for following along!
Definitely make it south facing, and make the cockpit a coffee deck. This isn't the one that crash landed in nenana is it?
Future dry cabins (w/ only a power umbilical) could be built on skids since you have an excavator to drag them around now.
Those are looking pretty attractive now, especially since one of our new cabins froze up and we've got some serious plumbing repairs to do...
Interesting project. Maybe an idea for exterior, I think you should keep the wings attached (I saw you were taking them off), it will add on to the plane-house look and could also be a design feature. I know it takes a lot of space too, but fuselage only to me would look strange.
We had to remove them for transport but they will be reattached!
Unbelievable!! We moved from 1/8 acre to 11 last year...and although we did not buy an excavator we have had some working here...my friends sitting on their couches think I work too hard here making this place the way we want it...we bought into property not on the runway but a partial owner of a private airport I am thankful for the old paved runway and my old hangar not shiny like a few neighbors but at least doesn't need to be torn down like some others......seeing you build the 'cabins' is inspirational as I want to build a hangout in the woods...cabin is really not the word those are like small houses very impressive when you could have made old school cabin style.....I would love to come learn from you and my wife just wants to see Alaska
Come on up and visit! Ya, 11 acres can certainly be a lot of work. We went from 1/10 of an acre to 115. It's easily a full time job for one person between all the seasons and runway mx, with the cabin and extra runway construction I could keep a crew of 4-6 busy year round. Good luck with the land!
You could use the toilets and showers from a class A RV . Should be pretty easy to retrofit . You could also use some other things from a class A Rv - fridge , stove and water heater . All of these items are made to run on batteries , generator and AC line . Could you guys use an advanced ground school instructor ?
Looks awesome.
I loaded 888DG many times in Fairbanks
Now this is epic. Can't wait! I've seen some of these in Anchorage and always thought they were cool. Can't wait to see if you are just going to use it as a fun thing to have on a property or even try to get it in the air again?
Find out tomorrow!
Love this project! You are going to have something worthy of your dreams when its fully functional. I would love to come up and do some training with you one day!
Come on up summer of 2023!
Good luck to you.
Thank you!
RE: unpacked box, is that a Bearhawk kit?
Inspiring! ❤❤
Do you have an airport code yet? Maybe in a couple of years, I’ll bring my 170 up to play around.
57AK
Love it. Thank you for the update.
So awesome! I'm guessing that kit plane is a kitfox. Would be a nice addition to the collection.
Close, but something with a little more power!
@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 another Bearhawk? I was gonna guess Rans s21, but if it's got more power than a Kitfox, it probably isn't powered by the ubiquitous Rotax 912 series. I am really enjoying seeing your dreams come alive!! Thank you so much for sharing!! What an amazing place and amazing lifestyle you and Steph are building for yourselves!! Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
I have a class at UAA at Merrill Field and they mentioned you acquiring the 727 there. Is that still happening?
Still working on it :)
Hi Jon, Really enjoyed the video, admire your vision, fantastic place, cannot wait to see the finished product. BTW - Not sure if I missed it, but where in Alaska is your Pilot Lodge? Best regards Rob :)
Hey Rob! Thank you for that! We're in Big Lake, just about 25 miles north of anchorage. The FAA identifier for our strip is 57AK.
Build it basic and low cost would be still awesome
It's sometimes said the cockpit makes for a poor classroom. I'd say make that cockpit into a cool classroom.
Hahaha....very true. I'm hoping to use the middle part of it as a brief/debrief area for our students here
Is that a Rans s20 Raven at 28:40? I really like that design, although I have yet to fly it. How do you like it?? Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
Its pretty dang sweet! For the $ they perform really really well when they are light. Needs a bit more power to take a heavy load.
Turn the Cockpit into a two person Relaxzation area. Name the area: Cockpit and or a Master Bedroom with Panoramic view.😊
That would be cool
These feet have never left the ground but dream of a discovery flight taking off from your lodge
Come visit us!
So cool.
Make the cockpit the "office" aka bathroom stall. ;-)
Lol...the dimensions actually work great for that, but I was trying to avoid putting a crapper in there
O M G! How cool this is! 👍
We're super excited for it! Share it around with your friends and let us know your ideas for a layout!
Damn!!! I’d love to come up for a tail wheel endorsement one day!
Come on up! We're scheduling for June 2023 now.
The first few seconds, before you mention turning it into a house, I thought you had gone completely mad and intended to fly the thing!
Lol....I guess we've had crazier ideas. I think this one will be permanently on the ground baring any hurricane force winds.
Bench down, one bucket deep by one bucket wide and as many as required. The trench will look like a giant staircase on either side. You are way too deep to trust that the vertical sides of your trenches will hold. If one fails, it will come quick and anyone in the hole is dead. You have to hand dig them out, the machine will kill them if you try to use it, you will never get to them in time. That deep though, the weight of the soil falling on them will do the job. Anyone who jumps in the tench to start digging is at risk of getting buried as well. Am I just another internet expert? No, I have personally been on a job where a guy was buried. That guy was the owners son who was in a hurry to get one more pipe at the end of the day.
Ya, I wasn't a fan of how that went. Luckily we don't have any more deep trenching to do around here, but I like the stair step idea to make it wider
Awesome!
Super excited for this project!
U should of just bought a skid steer with a mulcher it would of paid itself off
He must be making so much money from flight school . He is spending so much money
I guessed right!
An Air P& B!
lmao
What’s the wet rate up there?
For which aircraft?
Do you possibly have some flight connections that we could partner with for flying dogs back and forth to the lower 48? We have a pet transport company (Paw Paws Express) and we cannot fly our clients snubnosed or oversized dogs to and from Alaska (English Bulldogs, Staffordshires, American Bulldogs, etc are all banned from commercial airlines)
I'd call Evert's and see if they have the ability to move live animals as cargo, otherwise only other option I could think of would be chartering a 206 for around $15-16k from ANC to SEA
that arm care was 10k!?
Yup :(
Well I’m glad you’re better that happened to me about a year ago, it didn’t feel good.
What took you so long?
Haha...working long and hard
Is it airworthy?
definitely not...that would be a bit out of our price range
Highlander STOL I guess
Close....but even better!
I’m worried about you guys, are you biting a little too much for the time being?
Hahaha....that's what we do best
Zenith 750
There’s no money in flight instruction so how the hell are you affording all of this chaos?
Well obviously just using the DC6 to smuggle huge loads of some sort of illicit material from central America of course. ;) ...but ya, actually just working about 80-100 hours a week. I still flight instruct part time, but likely would not be able to finance everything just as a CFI working a 40hr week.
You look a little like Christian Bale.
Is that a good thing?
I would of left as a tow truck driver that job is not worth the little money u paid way to much work
I feel so sorry for you... Lol
lol
Do you need some volunteer CFI? WhatsApp amazing projet
We do need someone to volunteer to come wire up the controls in the cockpit to flight sim controls! Hoping to turn the cockpit into a functioning simulator
10 grand ??? U should came to Canada the insurance is free . Nowadays all dr suck and are average
Oh my, standing in those trenches without something to stabilize the walls is SUPER dangerous...I can't say it enough SUPER dangerous. That deep down if there is a cave-in, you are done. Having an excavator close to "dig" someone out isn't really a plan either. I hope you are all done with that work. I think you should stick to CFI'ing and stay away from the construction industry. From what I have seen you have flying safety down pretty well. Best of luck on your big plans...it will really be something when it is all done.
They make great private pilot trainers
Oh ya...for those guys that are just too good for cessnas and want to go right to the big stuff
just aircraft super stol xl ??? 🚝