I come from a bodybuilding background and I absolutely love this shoe. Recently broke 20 min 5k for the first time in these, now training for a marathon
Love these shoes and feels better since I'm a heavier runner. Ran a 1:18 half marathon the other day, these feel great! Compared to vaporfly, I prefer these!
Have had great experience with their swimming goggles when swimming was part of my workout. Glad to see another brand dipping into the world of running shoes. 🎉
Just the review I have been waiting for. As a bigger and slower running, I am looking to pick up a pair of these. The More V4 also happens to be my favorite max-cushioned shoes and also using the Speed 3 for my speed workouts............ looking forward to run in them.
If any of you want to get this shoe, Yowana/Supwell Running has a 10% coupon for TYR on his channel! Bumps it down to $225 which is more in line with the Endorphin Pro 3/4 and I think a bit better of a price to convince people to try this over established brands.
Picked up this shoe two weeks ago and I LOVE them! They've quickly been my "Metaspeed Sky killers" as they ride identically to the Sky but they have MUCH better outsole coverage, especially in the heel area. Absolutely great shoes!
Oh man, that description is _exactly_ the type of shoe I've been looking for. I love my MS Sky, but I need more traction. Now if only it was possible to actually get these in Europe...
Have about 50 miles in these; agree it feels heavy for racing. And there are many better options for tempo, especially the UnderArmour Velociti Elite 2 (which is better in every respect for faster road training and also on the track.) But if you don’t mind (expensive) daily trainers, it has a smooth ride. This seems like a shoe for 200-pound plus runners. (Not so much me at 187.) I would send mine back but they are an athleisure option perhaps beyond equal! Way better-looking and feeling for walking around than On Running. So shall keep in an act of sheer vanity.
I am a competitive swimmer and I love TYR's race suits but recently I got this shoe and I am shocked with how much of a difference I have seen in my running after wearing these absolutely awesome shoe
You're right on with this shoe. I only have one workout so far 2x2miles - get above LT HR for over 50%+ of the 2 reps. 1 mile warm/down. I'm 200 lbs. & 59 this month. It's a EP3 Pro midsole/feel with the EE's later aggressive rocker. The shoe felt very stable & bouncing. Good for all paces I ran, even the warmup. This could be the safe marathon racer Clydesdales are looking for. Love the landing pad with the later rocker - like AP3 & EE. Separately, for some reason I loving the Hoka Ciele X1, ever with an earlier rocker?.......Topic for another conversation. Great stuff Mike!!!!!
I was unaware TYR made shoes as well as pool gear! 221g sounds pretty light to me, saying that I do usually wear trail shoes 🏃♂Thanks for taking us through the features & alternatives Mike 👍
This one and training companion Valkyrie Speedworks is obviously modelled to compete with Endorphin Pro and Speed respectively. It is not a bad thing. Speedworks is actually available on their website for $170 now. I might skip Endorphin Speed 4 and try Speedworks instead, especially if the feeling is more like Speed 1/2 instead of 3/4. BTW, I like the heel rubber coverage in this shoe and its training companion Tyr Valkyrie Speedworks. Yes, it adds a bit more weight but it will be more durable for people like me. I land midfoot but then heel lands heavy with a lateral bias which is my typical wear pattern. These will be more durable for me than Endorphin Pro/Speed respectively.
Hello Ko, do you think this one can be used as a daily? Nowadays I am running with a More V4, that I am almost retiring it, just purchased an Eclipse, and intending to add another one to the rotation. Thank you
I might use the Boston for training and the Valkyrie Elite Carbon for racing. but if you're only going to have one for both training and racing, go with the Boston.
@@t1g3r8As a fellow Clydesdale (215lbs) who has run in Boston 11 and 12s, they're good for our size. The B12 definitely friendlier because it's softer, but I'd actually consider my B11s for 5k/10k racing because they're pretty responsive. It was about a year, maybe two after my beginner stage before I felt investing in supershoes was helpful. But they're definitely more fun!
If you get Boston 12 make sure you get 1/2 US size down they run big. I got a 10 1/2 which is my size fits little big. should’ve went with a 10 instead.
Hi, TYR heels looks narrow. Is the heel width narrower than Saucony endorphin pro 3? I tried Saucony endorphin pro 3, heel felt stable but toe box was narrow for my feet. Wondering TYR toe box is wider than Saucony endorphin pro 3 and heel width is close to it. Thanks!
Yo, what’s going on!!! It is definitely a good time to be running. All of the options is just mind boggling 🤯. (Edit) The question is?? Would I ever find this brand at Ross or Burlington 🤔🤔🤔🤣😂😆. I guess we have to wait a while for this to happen 🤷🏻♂️🙈😁
@@matthiassventoest6800 I stopped going to Marshall’s, they never had good running shoes, at least to the ones I know. Nordstrom Rack I haven’t been lucky finding something cool in my size or worthy of buying. But, hey I will also keep visiting those stores I don’t mind waiting 🤷🏻♂️
Cool name. With its swimming background maybe they'll appeal to triathletes? (But tri shoes tend to have barely-there uppers.) I think the price point needs to be more aggressive if they're trying to win over new fans. Otherwise why shouldn't I stick with brands I know? Boring colorway, but maybe I'll cop one when it inevitably goes on sale because nobody even knows Tyr makes carbon plated shoes. Top Tyr review as always.
it's kinda surprising that this shoe didn't come with a sockless/bootie upper, but I'm guessing they didn't want this shoe seen as a swimmer's running shoe.
There is another TH-camr that I really enjoy that was able to get Tyr to offer a 25 dollar discount on this shoe. I wonder if they would do the same for your community.
I've always wondered, at what pace these race shoes would be best at? Fast as possible yeah, but like any good at 5k25min? I know that most race day shoes are for the fast folk, and we slowjoe´s can't use their full potential, but about what pace you would consider a race day plated shoe, and what pace would be just a waste of money? ATM I personally use Novablast 3TR, Trabuco max 2´s and Clifton 9´s
I understand your question as, When do race shoes no longer make sense? and that you are not asking a question about this shoe specifically. if I have misunderstood, please feel free to rephrase and ask again. . I firmly believe that there isn't a pace cutoff for when carbon plated shoes "would be just a waste of money". there is a point where a runner will want to prioritize comfort of a shoe over raw performance. and to be more precise, it's a bit of a sliding scale. for example, there are a lot of fast shoes that I would love for a 5k PB attempt, but it would be too harsh for a half marathon. and some of those half marathon shoes may be too harsh for the marathon distance. the shoes I want for a 20 minute race are generally quite different than I want for a 6 hour race. but it's gonna depend on each runner. but one way to think about it is to do your marathon training workouts or perhaps a half marathon race. if it feels like you could get more out of yourself with a shoe that were a bit more aggressive, it's worth considering and to bring it back to this video specifically, I've used language indicating that some race shoes are more accessible than others. This Tyr Valkyrie Elite Carbon and the Saucony Endorphin Pro 3 that were mentioned were described as shoes that I can easily recommend to a wider range of runners. This is the kind of language that want to keep an ear out for when considering your first carbon plated racer.
Have you tried the magic speed or magic speed 2, even on light jog(even walking ) you can feel the energy return, that light spring that pushes you forward on each step but with less energy. Compared to say adidas boston 11 or 12 you need a faster run to feel that energy return and to feel that soft/firm sole, slow jogging on boston 11 feels like soccer cleats, adidas adistar are prefect for slow jogs. Hope helps
@@kofuzi Thanks! And sorry, i’m not a native english speaker… I tried to find that if for example would i benefit from carbon plated shoe. My 5k pb while recovering from a dual slipped disk was 27:59, and i’m aiming for a 25min flat @Helsinki Running Day… So would i waste my money, or could i find plated shoes beneficial? Reason i ask is, my running shoe store seller once told me that plated shoes are not meant for slow runners… So that stuck in my mind, as what is considered a ”slow runner” that would just waste money on plated shoes 😅. I also realise there might not be a political answer, since i guess nobody likes to be told there ”slow”, even if not meaning any offence 😬
@@marceloamador92024 Tried Boston today at the store and i was pleasantly surprised…. Adios on the other had had a nice fit, but was awful to run in. I’ll have to try those Magic Speeds and Endorphin Pro’s… Sadly our closest stores only carry the most popular shoes, but zero race day shoes, so i’ll have to go further away to try some on 🤭
I've asked the company about the official pronounciation like three or four times (I keep forgetting), but it's named after the Norse god of combat. Tyr rhymes with pier
it took me like four times looking at it to see what you're seeing. but I finally see it. this is peculiar. a quick google search suggests that the RY "valkryie" spelling on the shoe may be an acceptable even if less popular spelling. and I was thinking that maybe this is a nod to a possible Norse spelling, which would make sense for a company named after a Norse god. but then again, the more common YR "valkyrie" spelling is used by Tyr on the website for the listing of the product. 🤷🏻♂️
@@kofuzi nah, they just messed up. I’m Norwegian, and none of the valkyries I know spell it like that. I guess TYR will have to sell this batch of shoes at 70 % discount due to that typo. 🙋🏼♂️
one of the most underrated shoes out there! LOVE these. Surprisingly durable!
I come from a bodybuilding background and I absolutely love this shoe. Recently broke 20 min 5k for the first time in these, now training for a marathon
great work! keep it up!
Love these shoes and feels better since I'm a heavier runner. Ran a 1:18 half marathon the other day, these feel great! Compared to vaporfly, I prefer these!
Have had great experience with their swimming goggles when swimming was part of my workout. Glad to see another brand dipping into the world of running shoes. 🎉
Just the review I have been waiting for. As a bigger and slower running, I am looking to pick up a pair of these. The More V4 also happens to be my favorite max-cushioned shoes and also using the Speed 3 for my speed workouts............ looking forward to run in them.
If any of you want to get this shoe, Yowana/Supwell Running has a 10% coupon for TYR on his channel! Bumps it down to $225 which is more in line with the Endorphin Pro 3/4 and I think a bit better of a price to convince people to try this over established brands.
Picked up this shoe two weeks ago and I LOVE them! They've quickly been my "Metaspeed Sky killers" as they ride identically to the Sky but they have MUCH better outsole coverage, especially in the heel area. Absolutely great shoes!
Oh man, that description is _exactly_ the type of shoe I've been looking for. I love my MS Sky, but I need more traction. Now if only it was possible to actually get these in Europe...
Thank you Ko! As always, great stuff 🙏 Gotta say, really looking forward for your Endorphin Pro 4 review.
Have about 50 miles in these; agree it feels heavy for racing. And there are many better options for tempo, especially the UnderArmour Velociti Elite 2 (which is better in every respect for faster road training and also on the track.) But if you don’t mind (expensive) daily trainers, it has a smooth ride. This seems like a shoe for 200-pound plus runners. (Not so much me at 187.) I would send mine back but they are an athleisure option perhaps beyond equal! Way better-looking and feeling for walking around than On Running. So shall keep in an act of sheer vanity.
My TYR shoes are on the way..and after your review, I'm so excited. This is my upcoming chicago marathon shoes. Thank you!
hope you enjoy!
I am a competitive swimmer and I love TYR's race suits but recently I got this shoe and I am shocked with how much of a difference I have seen in my running after wearing these absolutely awesome shoe
Very different from Tyr’s other shoes
You're right on with this shoe. I only have one workout so far 2x2miles - get above LT HR for over 50%+ of the 2 reps. 1 mile warm/down.
I'm 200 lbs. & 59 this month. It's a EP3 Pro midsole/feel with the EE's later aggressive rocker. The shoe felt very stable & bouncing. Good for all paces I ran, even the warmup. This could be the safe marathon racer Clydesdales are looking for. Love the landing pad with the later rocker - like AP3 & EE. Separately, for some reason I loving the Hoka Ciele X1, ever with an earlier rocker?.......Topic for another conversation. Great stuff Mike!!!!!
I was unaware TYR made shoes as well as pool gear! 221g sounds pretty light to me, saying that I do usually wear trail shoes 🏃♂Thanks for taking us through the features & alternatives Mike 👍
These are probably the most excited I’ve been about a racing shoe in a while
I agree, these and Diadora Gara Carbon.
@@justoutlaw6423 I would agree but 300 dollars is so expensive when there’s so many other good racing shoes out there
Looks like the "training companion" dropped today as well. Nylon plate and a more traditional upper. Supposedly the same foam.
Another brilliantly produced review Mike! Looks like an exciting shoe. That rocker geo just shouts EFFICIENT TOE-OFF! 😄
it's really quite nice
This one and training companion Valkyrie Speedworks is obviously modelled to compete with Endorphin Pro and Speed respectively. It is not a bad thing. Speedworks is actually available on their website for $170 now. I might skip Endorphin Speed 4 and try Speedworks instead, especially if the feeling is more like Speed 1/2 instead of 3/4.
BTW, I like the heel rubber coverage in this shoe and its training companion Tyr Valkyrie Speedworks. Yes, it adds a bit more weight but it will be more durable for people like me. I land midfoot but then heel lands heavy with a lateral bias which is my typical wear pattern. These will be more durable for me than Endorphin Pro/Speed respectively.
I respect that you're willing to recommend shoes that you yourself are unable to run in (ES3).
Hopefully the ES4 works out better for you.
🤞
I imagine these would be great for bigger/stronger types of runners. But they don't have large sizes?
Clicked on it so fast it has no sound! Im quicker than sound, awesome!
Aha, I seen the bottom of the shoe and the rocker position at the start of the review and it reminded me of the Endorphin Elite too
Good looking shoe! Looking forward to a possible super-trainer from TYR.
Hello Ko, do you think this one can be used as a daily? Nowadays I am running with a More V4, that I am almost retiring it, just purchased an Eclipse, and intending to add another one to the rotation. Thank you
Hi everyone. I don't knew this brand. Like to Kofuzi. Have a great monday.
Would love to hear any thoughts/comparisons to the adios pro 3 if anyone out there has used both.
Kofuzi what shoes do you think is best for 50 years old runner. I do 10k in 45 minutes. My weight is 180 lbs. Cadence runner.
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I’m assuming you’re asking for a daily trainer
@@kofuzi thank you!
Boston 12 or TYR Valkyrie for a Clydesdale (210#) beginner runner/training for a 1/2 marathon?
I might use the Boston for training and the Valkyrie Elite Carbon for racing. but if you're only going to have one for both training and racing, go with the Boston.
@@kofuzi thank you Michael!
@@t1g3r8As a fellow Clydesdale (215lbs) who has run in Boston 11 and 12s, they're good for our size. The B12 definitely friendlier because it's softer, but I'd actually consider my B11s for 5k/10k racing because they're pretty responsive. It was about a year, maybe two after my beginner stage before I felt investing in supershoes was helpful. But they're definitely more fun!
If you get Boston 12 make sure you get 1/2 US size down they run big. I got a 10 1/2 which is my size fits little big. should’ve went with a 10 instead.
Hi, TYR heels looks narrow. Is the heel width narrower than Saucony endorphin pro 3? I tried Saucony endorphin pro 3, heel felt stable but toe box was narrow for my feet.
Wondering TYR toe box is wider than Saucony endorphin pro 3 and heel width is close to it. Thanks!
heel is pretty similar. toe box feels roomier to me
Thank you for taking your time and replying to my comment.@@kofuzi
Question: is it a coincidence that I’ve never seen black pebax midsoles? Is it not possible? (I only buy all-black running shoes.)
correct, unless it's painted as an external layer
How is the druability?
Yo, what’s going on!!! It is definitely a good time to be running. All of the options is just mind boggling 🤯. (Edit) The question is?? Would I ever find this brand at Ross or Burlington 🤔🤔🤔🤣😂😆. I guess we have to wait a while for this to happen 🤷🏻♂️🙈😁
yo Luis!
I think its more likely that the ones that don't sell end up at Nordstrom Rack.., and Marshall's... but I will report back
@@matthiassventoest6800 I stopped going to Marshall’s, they never had good running shoes, at least to the ones I know. Nordstrom Rack I haven’t been lucky finding something cool in my size or worthy of buying. But, hey I will also keep visiting those stores I don’t mind waiting 🤷🏻♂️
It's gorgeous ❤
Cool name. With its swimming background maybe they'll appeal to triathletes? (But tri shoes tend to have barely-there uppers.) I think the price point needs to be more aggressive if they're trying to win over new fans. Otherwise why shouldn't I stick with brands I know? Boring colorway, but maybe I'll cop one when it inevitably goes on sale because nobody even knows Tyr makes carbon plated shoes. Top Tyr review as always.
it's kinda surprising that this shoe didn't come with a sockless/bootie upper, but I'm guessing they didn't want this shoe seen as a swimmer's running shoe.
You can almost always get 20% off at TYR with a code. So that makes it's price point very competitive. (if you don't have a size 12 or larger foot)
2:24 I don't know if it's a sunday model but I would be little upset To have typo on my top of the line shoe.
The pictures on their website have the typo as well…yikes
@@evancovellrunning Ouch! Not so impressive effort from quality control.
There is another TH-camr that I really enjoy that was able to get Tyr to offer a 25 dollar discount on this shoe. I wonder if they would do the same for your community.
I don't ask for discount codes or affiliate links for when I review a product
I've always wondered, at what pace these race shoes would be best at? Fast as possible yeah, but like any good at 5k25min? I know that most race day shoes are for the fast folk, and we slowjoe´s can't use their full potential, but about what pace you would consider a race day plated shoe, and what pace would be just a waste of money? ATM I personally use Novablast 3TR, Trabuco max 2´s and Clifton 9´s
I understand your question as, When do race shoes no longer make sense? and that you are not asking a question about this shoe specifically. if I have misunderstood, please feel free to rephrase and ask again.
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I firmly believe that there isn't a pace cutoff for when carbon plated shoes "would be just a waste of money". there is a point where a runner will want to prioritize comfort of a shoe over raw performance. and to be more precise, it's a bit of a sliding scale.
for example, there are a lot of fast shoes that I would love for a 5k PB attempt, but it would be too harsh for a half marathon. and some of those half marathon shoes may be too harsh for the marathon distance. the shoes I want for a 20 minute race are generally quite different than I want for a 6 hour race.
but it's gonna depend on each runner. but one way to think about it is to do your marathon training workouts or perhaps a half marathon race. if it feels like you could get more out of yourself with a shoe that were a bit more aggressive, it's worth considering
and to bring it back to this video specifically, I've used language indicating that some race shoes are more accessible than others. This Tyr Valkyrie Elite Carbon and the Saucony Endorphin Pro 3 that were mentioned were described as shoes that I can easily recommend to a wider range of runners. This is the kind of language that want to keep an ear out for when considering your first carbon plated racer.
Have you tried the magic speed or magic speed 2, even on light jog(even walking ) you can feel the energy return, that light spring that pushes you forward on each step but with less energy. Compared to say adidas boston 11 or 12 you need a faster run to feel that energy return and to feel that soft/firm sole, slow jogging on boston 11 feels like soccer cleats, adidas adistar are prefect for slow jogs. Hope helps
@@kofuzi Thanks! And sorry, i’m not a native english speaker… I tried to find that if for example would i benefit from carbon plated shoe. My 5k pb while recovering from a dual slipped disk was 27:59, and i’m aiming for a 25min flat @Helsinki Running Day… So would i waste my money, or could i find plated shoes beneficial? Reason i ask is, my running shoe store seller once told me that plated shoes are not meant for slow runners… So that stuck in my mind, as what is considered a ”slow runner” that would just waste money on plated shoes 😅. I also realise there might not be a political answer, since i guess nobody likes to be told there ”slow”, even if not meaning any offence 😬
@@kofuzi and deffo that TYR seems interesting to me… Shame nobody here sells that brand, so i would have to order from abroad
@@marceloamador92024 Tried Boston today at the store and i was pleasantly surprised…. Adios on the other had had a nice fit, but was awful to run in. I’ll have to try those Magic Speeds and Endorphin Pro’s… Sadly our closest stores only carry the most popular shoes, but zero race day shoes, so i’ll have to go further away to try some on 🤭
I feel the TYR is not as bouncy as the pro 3 and does not roll as fast as the pro 3. It’s still a great shoe
Why are so many race day shoe laces so curly? Are there any benefits?
they stay tied
Bc curly fries > regular fries 🍟
Please review soucony endorphin speed 4..
it's in the cue. I've got a backlog
I can get you all 20% off on this shoe and any TYR product. Ask me how!
Okay, how?
From swimming days I always thought it was pronounced by spelling out the letters. T Y R… can’t get past this to actually watch the video 😂
I've asked the company about the official pronounciation like three or four times (I keep forgetting), but it's named after the Norse god of combat.
Tyr rhymes with pier
@@kofuzi No way! At any rate, very cool to see them evolve! Your move Speedo! 😂
Certainly look good!
I missed it, is it true to size?
yes
They look a lot like the Endorphin Elites…. are they similar?
I discuss precisely that at the end of the video in the buying guide and alternatives section
Roger that 👍 sorry, I fell off when you introduced the trainer. Will check that out now!! Thanks 🙏
Wow you read my mind with those comments, spot on! And good to know re the foam similarly to the EP3 👍
Sucks they only made this up to a men’s size 11.5.. i won’t be able to try it out
hopefully as they gain more traction in the performance running space, they will be able to support more sizes. seems odd to stop at 11.5 though
I recently purchased a pair in a us mens 12? tts.
I wish this was available in the UK.
TYR have a EU site where you can buy it. I’ve ordered some today
@@timedwards2066 Yes but they crank a stack of import tax on top of the costs and makes it better to wait (imho)
Mine came to £250
@@timedwards2066 Exactly, it's showing as £215 before the add-ons
@@timedwards2066 to EU countries we have to pay over 100 €uros :(
I did 19.05 in 5k with decathlon kalenji jf100 (19$)
that's awesome!
2:22 $250 shoes and they couldn’t get the spelling of «Valkyrie» right?? 🤔
it took me like four times looking at it to see what you're seeing. but I finally see it.
this is peculiar.
a quick google search suggests that the RY "valkryie" spelling on the shoe may be an acceptable even if less popular spelling. and I was thinking that maybe this is a nod to a possible Norse spelling, which would make sense for a company named after a Norse god.
but then again, the more common YR "valkyrie" spelling is used by Tyr on the website for the listing of the product.
🤷🏻♂️
@@kofuzi nah, they just messed up. I’m Norwegian, and none of the valkyries I know spell it like that. I guess TYR will have to sell this batch of shoes at 70 % discount due to that typo. 🙋🏼♂️
the print on the shoe says "valkryie" but your title says "valkyrie" ... so, what's the name of the shoe?
I'm holding the shoe and looking it now, and I'm not seeing what you're seeing. can you drop a time stamp?
@@kofuzi the print on the heel at 2:25 valk_r_yie versus valk_y_rie
I call it Tee whY R
I thought it was that way for a long time, but then I asked the company. It rhymes with pier
Maybe just semantics but they are paying you with free shoes.
yes its semantics